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Supernatural elements in a show that shouldn’t have them is always scarier
Yeah. Seeing things where you don’t expect them feel so out of place but it fits. It adds more than what is already there
@@MauricioJara Like real life
Same with sons of anchey how the homeless lady is like death always following jax
@@Johnnysmithy24 Exactly. There's just things in this world that are sometimes just unexplainable
@@MauricioJara "There are things in this world that we can't understand- understand- understand. We want answers, I've teamed up with paranormal investigators to find the truth."
-Ghost Adventures.
Vito sneaking up behind Jackie Jr is the most supernatural thing in the show.
Holy shit this was too funny 😂
with that tiny gun lmfao
His own cousin
Right lmao like where did he come from?
He was a come from behind kinda guy, after all
Paulie throwing a chair into an empty room and yelling "FUCKIN QUEERS!" is the pinnacle of comedy
favorite paulie moment
@@sleepyandhollow. that’s just my favorite tv moment in general
It's the way he walks out all swol that makes it
Satanic black magic. Sicksh!t
He tried to attack the ghosts.
Tony doesn't see Pussy's ghost in the mirror, we do. He might sense something is wrong but from where he's standing he can't see what we can.
So why did he slow down with the door
This is how I thought it was too
@@radopak because he sensed something. Tony clearly can't see the reflection
@@radopak if pussy was standing there then Tony would have seen him out of the corner of his eye. Not his reflection in the mirror, but his "ghost".
It kinda makes it even creepier. Pussy is aware of us, the viewer
100%. Not even a debate. The Sopranos does have a supernatural element to it
I felt like a Paulie paranormal Themed Spinoff would've done well
@@darkshinethakid4463 never thought of that admittedly, but I would tune in.
Not really. Pretty much everything can be explained. There 100% IS a debate.
@@HOTD108_ it’s a debate yes but I think there’s too many things the writers put in to signify a supernatural element. It’d be daft to act like it’s all just the characters imaginations
Think it’s more “this is their perspective and their reality” as opposed to “this is reality”
I've heard Meadow being referred to as Tony's guardian angel.
In the college episode, the rat(forgot his name) didn't shoot Tony because Meadow was with him.
When Tony almost died from being shot, he heard Meadow calling for him not to leave her and woke up from his coma.
It's suspected that tony dies in the last episode because Meadow wasnt there to maybe sit beside him to block the shooter.
@@LordKitchen Lol yeah, I also forgot her taking the lamp that the FBI bugged, back to school with her. .
@@dee8171 frs !
The rat didnt shhoot tony because of the locals that showed up. He just told tony that, hoping tone would spare him. Rewatch that "college" episode.
when Tony bets on "Meadow Gold" the horse doesnt make it in time...then he asks "where's the goddamn sound?"
@@dee8171 amazing stuff, thanks for sharing. Makes sense.
Leaning fully into the supernatural elements of the show makes it feel so much more fun
I don't get why we need to debunk fake ghosts now. They're ghosts! Just have fun with it
I feel like it being ambiguous is the best. Maybe they are real, maybe they aren’t. Maybe they exist in a state that goes beyond those definitions. Makes it more impactful
What?! Dude, come on. This is the sort of shit that turns me OFF from the show. There are clearly no ghosts in the show, and it takes something like a 4th grade writing class to see that much. Hell, flip on "Talking Sopranos" and listen to the WHOLE CAST AND CREW make fun of the fans who think there are ghosts in the show.
There. Are. No. Ghosts.
You people are cheapening David Chase's work and making a character study full of abstract references to death, spirituality, duty, religion, family etc. into "OMG THAT MEANS THERE'S GHOSTS LOLOLOLOLOLOL"
It's kind of sad, honestly. I've always loved Sopranos but the discourse surrounding the show lately is fucking pathetic. I probably couldn't stomach another playthrough solely because of idiocy like this.
No. Ghosts.
Lol I literally just said that pinch poke you owe me a Coke😘🥤🌻
Nah, that takes away from the show and makes it goofy af.
The Virign Mary scene is scarier than any horror movie scene I've seen.
I close My Eyes to this day 😂
First time I saw it I physically flinched
I literally jumped out of my seat.
Poor Paulie
Paulie, the first man to get jumpscared by a white woman
The most supernatural question in the show is what kind of black magic Janice used to get Bobby to pick her over Jojo Palmice.
Janice was just like Livia. I could assume she was probably doing work behind the scenes, scaring all of his other potential mates away without him knowing.
Don't take this too seriously, I'm just speculating for the fun of it LOL.
@@stevewilson9778janice prob told her to take a midol
Janice could suck the chrome off of a muffler, she could suck a golf ball through a garden hose, she could suck cold peanut butter through a paper straw; lots of practice. That’s why she gets so many guys
I don’t think poor Bobby wanted anyone so soon after his wife’s death but Janice forced her way in there. Jo Jo’s not the type to give a grieving husband shit about eating his wife’s last ziti.
The real question is: Did they have flat tops in Ancient Rome?
I HAVE COME
**picks up chain**
TO RECLAIM ROME!
**starts swinging**
FOR MY PEOPLE!!!!
Yo that cracked me the fuck up.
@@walnutsandbeastiality866 “ I never saw it…
Yes.
@@walnutsandbeastiality866 the hilarious part of that line is its not even in the movie lol.
Only thing I would say is that when Paulie visits the psychic, the guy pulls the name Charles out of thin air. The fact that Paulie would know someone named Charles who went by Sonny would be a pretty big coincidence.
Not just that, he said his entire name
@@allknowerofwwetna1 also he predicted that he was Paulie's first.
@@tristissimvshominvm8999 and then Mikey with the poison Ivy. Feel Kino is reaching... do you notice any point in the series any scars on his face?
No, it wouldn't. It would be an easily discoverable piece of information to someone who was already familiar with them and who did "readings" for a living. It's not hard or uncommon for those people to do some light research and to "wow" their audience with it. It's literally the entire basis of that racket. Paulie wasn't exactly intelligent, so it wouldn't be hard to impress him with that ultra-vague nonsense.
@@davemccombs He researches a man who walks in with no appointment?
4:49 - Paulie isn't the only one to see the Virgin Mary; her reflection appears on the mirrored wall before Paulie notices her, implying she is physically there in the room for the audience to see.
The reason why he sees the Virgin Mary at the Bing is a reference to his mother. She was a saint, being a nun and a whore for getting knocked up by some g.i. overseas
I sometimes think that was a simple mistake. However, knowing David Chase's attention to detail, i think the part that can be seen in the mirror was intended 🤔
@@Sergiu-Lz it was definitely not a mistake. Why would the crew/Chase hang the actress up like that and put her in the scene just for a shot of Paulie walking through?
I remember that exact scene so vividly because my girlfriend yelled out "OMG, they stole the fucking statue......"
It took a second to figure out it was a vision.
I think the difference between Tony and Paulie regarding the vision of Mary is that she appears to Paulie to jolt him into forgiving his mother, he’s not looking for it so he gets it. When Tony looks to the stage, it’s because he’s looking for exoneration for murder, so he sees nothing.
Forget to mention, it’s all a pun on the idea of the “Madonna/Whore dichotomy”
Damn
There are ghosts, yes. But what's even scarier about the Sopranos is that there is a Hell. And all your favorite characters are going there.
It’s not a ghost but the dream that Tony had where he was on a farm type environment…Looks in the house and sees his mother dark shadow slowly coming down the stairs but then she suddenly stops moving and she stands still on the stairs not moving an inch…Honestly a nightmarish image when you know how horrible his mother was.
If you're referring to his coma with Tony B trying to get his suitcase, he was in purgatory.
That scene and when Livias silhouette was at the door in Tony's coma as Kevin Finnerty ...both stay with me to this day
@@misakiyoshida yes that scene for sure
@@misakiyoshidaI know this was a long time ago but I hope you remember that these are two different scenes
That scene really gave me the chills
That psychic is legit lol. No way he would be able to remark on his poison ivy incident
Exactly and Paulie had no after affects symptoms then. There’s no way he could have known. Poison ivy symptoms last weeks, this was a year later. There’s no explanation how he would know.
@@godfather4377 and to name his first hit?
unless Christopher has been snitching
Not to mention his gooma/gf got married in the better room... at 3 O' Clock!
I don't even think he actually got poison ivy. I think it was just in his mind lmao
The psychic is totally legit. The fact he mentions poison ivy and got that information from someone Paulie killed (Mikey Palmice) I think ties off the fact that the supernatural exists in the sopranos and sets precedent for its existence throughout the rest of the series.
im inclined to agree, either way it makes the show more compelling in my opinion, and it in no way requires the viewer to believe in the supernatural in real life as kino seems to suggest in the video
@@gregoryberryconedoesn’t matter whether you believe or not. I had so many strange experiences with the supernatural that I find it offensive that people still to this day are debating whether they are real or not.
Not only does he mention poison ivy, he says "this one is laughing". Thats Mikey for sure. Fits with his character. Psychic is legit.
@@Incel_81 more power to you but thats a very odd thing to say. firstly you can't expect people to take your word for something while not be able to present anything other than anecdotal evidence, also I have gone my entire life without experiencing anything even bordering on the supernatural so the fact you'd find the mere existence of a controversy on the topic is laughable to me
@@gregoryberrycone and I find your ignorance disturbing. 😂
"That's what this is you know, satanic black magic.
Sick shit!"
- Pauly Walnuts
Fuggin kweeeeahs! 🪑
@@littlekingtrashmouth9219
Lol
I could watch that scene a million times and it'll never stop being funny.
@@littlekingtrashmouth9219 😆😆😆
something that always creeped me out about the virgin mary scene, besides the fact that it exists, is whether the apparition was a statue or a real person. the first time i saw it, it was so quick that i couldn't tell if the hands were moving, but mainly i was getting over the sheer heart attack that was the surprise metal music backing her. watching these sorts of analysis videos and clips over time, i've gotten a bit used to it, but still question if it was a real person or just a statue. i always thought the linens were moving bc they were in the air, but when you slowed that clip down, i saw that the head moved ever so slightly. i always thought it was my head messing with me, but no, the apparition was the virgin mary, and not just a statue. i felt that if it was just a statue, that would be something like a warning to paulie, but the real, floating deal, that's a whole other ballpark. granted, i don't know entirely what it could mean, i just have the feeling that the real figure appearing to you would mean something more than a statue.
No, they actually hired an actress to portray her... she does move slightly.
I agree: Terrifying scene!
It's a statue. Period. Point blank.
There are no ghosts in the show. Period.
@@davemccombs It's not a statute. You can see her head move slightly.
@@davemccombs there are definitely supernatural elements to the show. - the show leans heavily into the idea of the afterlife.
@@davemccombs there are definitely ghosts in the show, and it is in fact an actress
The “Virgin Mary” in the Bing scared the shit out of me. I was watching it on my own late at night and had totally forgotten about this part. It’s absolutely terrifying.
I don't think the things the psychic said are all that explainable. There isn't any way he could have cold-read the things you mentioned and it didn't quite play out that way you explained. There is no way he could have known several of those details. Paulie called from an outside line and gave a fake name, as well. I keep seeing so many people in these comments, and Kino himself, misremember how this scene played out and the exact words the psychic said. Go rewatch it. A few times if you have to. He knows details that he cannot possibly know ..nor ascertain.. through fishing, the questions he asked, or the responses Paulie gave. I don't know if some people just deserpately don't want to think there was a legit supernatural occurance on this show for some reason.. but there was, and this was it.
@@enaquasanitas7017 Yes he could have you absolute trick. This is why "psychics" make money in real life. Gullible people.
Of COURSE he could have known about poison ivy. Or made an educated guess considering tons of people get poison ivy?
You're seriously unimpressive people, intellectually.
Most of that isn't explainable. That was cleary real. There's absolutely no way he could ever know 90% of what he said. He even said, do you really want me to say it? He had some more highly detailed graphic info
Seriously, the psychic ties it all together. He confirms our supernatural suspicions.
There is also the small detail that he is talking with a trained killer, and he doesn't care at all that he is pissing him off, and talking about his hits, a con artist would not dare to do that in a million years, only someone that actually knows what the afterlife looks like would be this unfazed by this kind of conversation
Supernatural elements in none horror shows and creative dream sequences will always be my favorite part of shows like Sopranos.
Do you know any other shows that do this?
@@matinazadeh6870i think only sopranos portrays it like this, tday i watched sopranos again and i discovered new paranormal thing haha
@@matinazadeh6870if you want heavy supernatural + weird dreams Twin Peaks nails it, though its definitely a different tone than sopranos
Absolutely. Do you remember the scene in which Silvio and Chris pay a visit to the hitmen that were supposed to take out Jonny Sacks and one of the hitmen was named Chris. All of them were ghosts 😂
Holy shit never thought of them as Ghosts 😂
@@josiahcone7506 Very common name. Ghosts dont eat Carvelle ice cream cakes.
@@anthonyfuqua6988 right I always thought it was like a version of Chris who never got clean for a minute.
@@josiahcone7506 The older guys were suspicious of people that dealt with drugs though. Remember they asked Chris and Silvio about drugs.
bruh that whole scene was weird and creepy af .. 😳 matter of fact all of season 4 was ..weird.
One thing Quasimodo couldn’t have predicted was how bad MSON was going to be.
Quasimodo was too busy being UP IN DA CLUB that day.
Nostradamus! And Notre Dame..two different things entirely
@@nickjohnson6368 ".......you also got your quarterback and your halfback of Notre Dame."
Yes, ghosts are indeed canon on the show. *He wants to know if it still itches....*
The audience sees the virgin Mary's reflection in the mirror while Paulie is staring at his feet walking. This shows me that she was indeed there and not just a figment of Paulie's imagination.
Great analysis; but without doubt, David Chase loved to explore the metaphysical elements of life. The Sopranos clearly leans into the supernatural.
But when puss is in the mirror, Tony doesn't see him...we do..he seemed to sense something more so than actually physically seeing him. Which is why I think it really was his spirit. Same deal with Paulie and the virgin Mary, She is literally in the reflection that the viewer notices but he doesn't. come on lol... idk dude, a few of these i disagree with you wholeheartedly
As the show got darker it got creepier and leaned into more paranormal elements
After years of re-watching the series, the spooky aspect of the show is something I always love to visit again. It makes me fall in love with the show all over again.
It’s pretty obvious spirits exist in the Sopranos world. The psychic scene isn’t anything resembling a cold reading. He correctly calls the client before Paulie Daniel, and accurately asserts Daniel found the body of his family member who committed suicide, without any clues. He also didn’t just the names Charles right, he called out the fact it was Paulie’s first kill. That’s not something you just research.
Sick of all these Sopranos enthusiasts trying to explain how the psychic was full of shit. There is no way he could've known all that info unless he was connected himself. Why the fuck is that so hard to accept for some people?
your right and why the fuck would the psychic say something ab poison ivy randomly
@@secretlytanner7204 Exactly. You can't just guess that. Either he had prior knowledge or he's a real psychic. Those are the only two explanations. This isn't even debatable.
@@mikehunt4986 real shit
The "medium" was definitely aware of something supernatural. Firstly, I know all about cold readers and how they manipulate people (or worse) in order to appear as if they are "psychic" or whatnot (the NY lady needs a case of permanent laryngitis) but he was different. Second, you have to remember that the "medium" exists in the Soprano's universe so he's not entirely bound by our reality (ie. he may actually be able to talk to the dead). No cold reader would be as specific as this guy was with Paulie, even though Paulie gave the medium his first victim's last name. If the information that the medium gave Paulie ended with the name, then you could blow the whole thing off because that is indeed suspiciously similar to a cold reading (medium says a first name, Paulie says last name with a (?), medium puts the two names together and Paulie believes the medium knew both names). However, then the medium continues with how Sonny was his "first" but how he felt there were "many more". There is no way he could have known that about Paulie, and Paulie later confirms this was true. The allusion to "itching" is also a clear reference to Mikey Palmice, and the medium refers to him as "that one" meaning that he is including him as one of Paulie's murder victims.
This. Knowing how "psychics" work in real life only affirms that in The Sopranos it's actually real.
There are Real mediums they are just Extremely rare and in Paulie's case...he found one
@@darkshinethakid4463 No, mediums aren’t real. The entire concept has been tested, debunked, and its practitioners exposed for what they are. People tell stories, share anecdotes, and watch a lot of tv shows and movies about it so that they think that kind of thing is not only possible but real. It would be neat if they were, but they aren’t.
@@ManahManah77 debunked according to who? Some Egghead? The worlds a lot more interesting than you know...
@@ManahManah77 you're not gonna see one of those people on TV lol there's your first clue
The Paulie Mary jumpscare got me harder than any jumpscare ever has I think. I tasted blood in my mouth
This show was written much more esoterically than you’re giving it credit for. and has very clear jungian psychology through the entire show. Spirituality was written very inherently into this show. Whether it was on purpose or not.
David chase mentioned a mysticist name in the show i think
No one takes Jung seriously also I don't remember any parts of the show that seem jungian
We get it dude, you're in college. Enough of the grandstanding though in TH-cam comments
I think the idea that all the dead are attached to, and constantly following the people who killed them (or are responsible for their deaths) makes the show all the more tense.
Paulie wasn’t imagining Mary. We saw her reflection in the mirror before he did. That’s the director’s way of letting us the audience know it was really there. Cmon, Kino. These are easy ones.
I like the term "Magical Realism" much like how Gabriel Garcia Marquez made 100 Years of Solitude. It is not a fantasy story like Harry Potter or a sci-fi like Dune. Its how magic, superstition and beliefs are intertwined with the real world of The Sopranos and using them as a powerful narrative tool,
During Season 3 episode 2 Proshai, Livushka. The scene where Janice has everyone gathers in the room to remember Livia, there is a strange guy that starts to come downstairs but turns around and goes back up. Now it could be a few things..Could be someone escaping the awkwardness of the memorial for Livia, it could be an extra that wasn't suppose to be in the shot, or it could be some unknown ghost. Just an eerie scene.
it was junior
@@Consumer0001 I had go and see it for myself...ya really spooky good catch!
@@Consumer0001 shit i’m just watching that ep rn, you’re right!!!!
It's supposed to be the ghost of Jonny Boy Soprano. It's not Junior, it looks like Junior but thinner.
@chrisc.8605 what'd they say?
In the scene where Tony wakes up next to Carmine, I guess that could be Carmine’s ghost, since he seemed to feel quite regretful for not being close to his wife Violet, since he was always close to the mafia family.
The cat that can’t stop staring at the portrait of Christopher was Adriana reincarnated.
When Tony and Adriana were driving at night, she saw the cat and yelled at Tony who swerved and spared the cat’s life.
it was a racoon
Cold Reading is a real thing, but its not used by the psychic at all during The Paulie Scene. There's so many details he shouldn't know.
Yes you are right. One of the very rare misses for Kino. Like you say Cold Reading is absolutely a thing real life "psychics" use but the scene in question has no examples of it. The psychic got to detailed information with almost no real prompting. Cold Reading would have required more open ended, leading and vague questions.
4:51 It's odd that you didn't mention that you can actually see the Virgin Mary in the mirrors behind Paulie before he notices her.
Because it’s barely visible. It likely wasn’t intentional
2:02 Not sure if this was by design, but the talking fish becomes pure kino and I like it a lot.
I can't get enough of your Sopranos videos.
I think Paulies encounter with the psychic was legit. Like how could’ve he connected Mike AND the poison ivy together?🤷🏻♂️ 👻
What blows my mind about The Sopranos is that I have seen countless videos that expose details in scenes that I never would have noticed on my own, creating potential scenarios so nuanced that I'm simply in awe of the level of writing that went into this show. It resembles to me the work of one genius with a ton of like-minded and super talented people all catching lightning in a bottle based off one genius's direction though. Unreal.
I think Paulie seeing the virgin Mary was a sign he would survive the gang war, which he did.
You can see the reflection of the Virgin Mary at the Bing before Paulie notices her. It wasn't an hallucination.
Ehhh, "Mikey wants to know if it still itches" that's fucking freaky
Jesus, I'm getting crazy goosebumps watching this! The wine glass totally freaked me out.
same, I have never noticed it watching the series I just noticed it now
The poison Ivy was the moment that got me. There’s no sign of poison Ivy on Paulie. There’s noooo way he would’ve known about that.
Women on the stairs in the dream and mary showing up at the bada bing stuck with me.
The Adriana cat supernatural theory is one of the most interesting conspiracies about the show
what does it mean?
Great vid. No mention of the cat staring at Cris’s picture?
The poison ivy thing is pretty nuts
Great video. I love how they incorporated supernatural elements into the show. The moments seem to have so much more effect considering that the show should supposedly have nothing to do with the supernatural, considering what it's about. I think that gives those spooky moments more impact.
One thing about the virgin Mary’s appearance you don’t mention is that you can actually see her in the mirror in a place Paulie wouldn’t be able to see her
I have to agree with another commenter that the fact some of these events appear to us viewers before the other characters experience them might mean the writers intended them as real events in the story - WE see Pussy in the mirror, not Tony. WE see the Mother Mary in the mirror at the Bing BEFORE Pauly sees her. I think they were purposeful in seperating when we as a collective were experiencing an event vs. the characters projecting their issues (ie Chrissy "seeing" hell)
Yooo Kino! Your Soprano vlogs really helped me get through my first year of law school. I work full time and take night classes. Your videos really helped me get through those late night drives!! Thanks bro, you the man!
You're welcome! Good luck with law school! One day I'm going to need you to get me out of some trouble lol
@@PureKino i have a question! If the virgin Mary wasn't real how come the audience sees it in the reflection before Paulie even notices? When walking into the bing you can see her in the mirror and Paulie couldn't...also i DO think the psychic was legit in regards to a few things. Namely asking if it still itches.
I do agree with the wine bit but some of the stuff is pretty damn spooky. Particularly the scenes with mirrors, such as big Puss and Mary...us seeing them before Paulie or Tony just gives me the idea something else exists in a world in which it isn't supposed to, which in itself makes it more creepy
Been waiting for a video like this, there’s a good amount of supernatural events in the sopranos but no one seemed to cover them until now.
No ghosts, it's just two black guys.
I've seen this entire series 10 - 12 times over and this is legitimately the first time I've ever realized that wine glass moved in that scene.
That's unreal. Assuming it's not some weird editing mistake, the level of depth and detail in this show continues to astonish me.
Wait what, i mean which scene is that? I also discovered tday that anthony was visited by livia after she died,
If you look closely, you will notice that her wine glass is on the place mat, unlike her husband's glass. When she adjusts her plate to eat, the wine glass moves with it.
I have just barely noticed some of the supernatural events that occurred during The Sopranos from the first to last episode. Your examples here have genuinely blown me away!!! I NEVER noticed Pussy's image in the mirror (followed by Tony's clear reaction to Pussy's memory)...I'd NEVER noticed the wine glass moving by itself in the episode where Bobby's wife was killed and Janice jumped in looking to capitalize on the man following his wife's death! This was AMAZING Pure Kino!! Really, REALLY eye-opening and compelling video you've made! Great work, man!
The psychic one was suspect. To much DETAIL info like Mikey specifically laughing at the poison ivy
All these scenes gave the show another subtext about after life and ghosts but for me the note that Tony found in his hospital room when he wokes up the coma, is one of the most curious things that they never explained to us.
"Sometimes I feel pity about myself, and all the while, a great wind carries me across the sky"
- Ojibwe Saying
This show is so meticulously written and crafted that I don't think there's any way stuff like the wine glass and the virgin mary is meaningless. Theres no doubt in my mind at least
That virgin mary apparition is terrifying lol
I mean i would say yes. But not like ghost in a away thats out to scare you or there to haunt people. I feel its more of the dead being stuck in Limbo, not being able to go to the after-life. Having to stay in the living world and watching their friends and live ones live their lives or die in process
Awesome video, I’ve been waiting for someone to explore this topic for so long!
The scene where the cat is staring at Chris' photo after his death is very eerie. David Chase really knew how to work in slightly unsettling supernatural elements.
Paulie seeing the Virgin Mary reminds me of the second half the Hail Mary prayer. "Holy Mary Mother of God, pray for us sinners now, and at the hour of our death. Amen." What else is season six but the hour of everyone's death?
I am from Portugal and the apparition of the virgin maria in southern european culture( Portugal spain italy greece) has a lot of meaning, usually it brings warnings for the future
We purposely see the virgin Mary in the mirror before we switch to Paulie's POV, suggesting that she's actually physically there.
Honestly? I always thought Sopranos had some supernatural in the show, it exists in that universe.
It seems like every time something goes wrong Paulie has something to do with it there a lot if you go back and look 👀
Another thing from the episode where we see Pussy in the mirror, later on while Janice is trying her to have her cringey speech about her mother, there's a reaction shot of Tony and behind him, someone comes down from the staircase briefly. I always wondered if this was meant to be another ghost or just to do something bizarre for a laugh. It's difficult to tell who it is exactly
I read somewhere years ago that it was supposed to be the ghost of Jonny Boy Soprano.
I definitely disagree on the wine glass thing. If Janice really did move the tablemat, the wine glass wouldn't be the only thing that moves. But it very distinctly is. Nothing else on that table moves in the same way. There's nothing touching it other than the tablemat from beneath. I could be wrong, but it looks very deliberate.
Both Bobby and Janice have separate mats they’re eating on and the only thing we can see on Janice’s from that camera angle is the wine glass.
,,I keep going to the river to pray
'Cause I need something that can wash out the pain
And at most
I'm sleeping all these demons away
But your ghost, the ghost of you
It keeps me awake
Give up the ghost
Give up the ghost
Give up the ghost
Stop the haunting baby"
(Ella Henderson)
UPDATE: David Chase recently confirmed -- Tony is dead, the members only guy killed him. It was New York.
Also, The Russian -- It was never outright shown in the show, but the Russian gets away (not by way of hiding in the tree shown during that one shot either.. that was coincidence). He was picked up by a group of boy scouts going on a trip, and the brain injury he sustained from the gunshot made him not able to remember what happened to him. BTW, again, this was never shown anywhere or implicated anywhere in the show. But it's what Chase said happened lol
This was all said ona Sopranos Podcast very recently as of December 2022 (I blieve the interview he explained these details was in like Sept. or Oct. somewhere round there as of this year)
I'm surprised the weird, creepy connection between the cat and the picture of Chris in the final season wasn't brought up here. Was it Chris' spirit? Was he reincarnated as a cat?
I always wondered why people thought the cat was Chris, not Adriana... how many cat/leopard print outfits did we see Adriana in? Why would Chris be staring at his own picture?
@@Jimmy1982Playlists yep- that’s what I think- staring at the guy who was responsible for her death.
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Plus, Chris says he went to hell. Being reincarnated as a cat only to be drowned by Paulie seems more an Adriana path than a Chris path.
I'd submit that Chase already confirmed that the supernatural/afterlife does in fact exist in Sapranos world when MSON opens with Christopher narrating from hell directly.
Fantastic video on the ghost and the supernatural Kino love when you do these videos
AJ calling out for Livia was my personal favorite.
The dead, however you want to categorize them, we’re always nearby on the show. That said, Many Saints of Newark confirmed the afterlife aspect of the show.
Any plans on doing a video about Angie Bonpenseiro? Her story arch is unique, being the only self-sufficient mob wife. Love the channel! Keep up the great work!
I will get to all the characters eventually!
Christopher's ceremony into the syndicate and then the Raven shows up is spooky.
I watched this series about 5 times in the span of 15 years, watched countless videos analyzing it. And this video blows my mind. It's endlessly deep.
I’m pretty sure the psychic was legit
The fact that the guy pointed out a laughing ghost, and wanting to know if the poison ivy is still itching, to a already disgruntled and loud Italian man, I don’t know, but had balls big as an Irish broads ass if he was just trying to scam Paulie.
I always thought so. The medium with Paulie, the group seeing Puss in dreams or wherever they are, seeing Mary at the strip club like I love it. The dream sequences are crazy. However I think with the wine glass I don’t think Janice moved it. Wine glasses are top heavy which is why people pick them up under the glass part or over the top. Moving it sideways like that or from the bottom it would tip over.
I agree, and I also note that the show has form for manipulation close to the camera. The hand steadying Ritchie's chair as he rocks backward after Janice shoots him might also have moved Janice's glass.
You forgot one… what about the old man figure that walks down the stairs in Tony’s house after Livia’s funeral and then walks back up
The psychic could have been cold reading, but he was too spot on to say about the poison ivy thing.
7:55 then how do you explain the psychic asking him if it still itches? Sorry dude. There is a supernatural component to the show.
Not to mention that visually we don’t see any physical markings on Paulie to show that he had poison ivy
FUCKIN' KWEEUHS!!!! Such a great exclamation for that scene...Paulie had NO idea what to do, he was SO freaked the fuck out!
Let’s not forget the supernatural elements but also the metaphysics elements shown during all seasons. Let’s break it down.
From my point of view, Tony died as for all the cinematographic language that is given to you. From a different perspective tho, there’s a very peculiar shot, when he enters the diner and see himself sat down waiting for his family. The camera does not follow him so it’s just a “what if” moment he got, just thinking about being there and what I’d happen.
My base on this is that some episodes prior the ending, we see Tony trying peyote and having a trip. He tells Melfi about this and says that during that trip, he felt there’s something else out there, something that cannot be explained. So Melfi ask if it’s something like parallel realities, so T kinda agrees with the idea.
The second thing about it, is when he survives the shot, he got to know a man who speaks a lot about this topic, different realities living on top of each others, and so on.
The last one is a metaphor which I haven’t heard been discussed so much around these videos/forums…. We vaguely see any animals besides the ducks during the show and suddenly a cat appears and T is ok with it? Plus, it stares at Chris photo the whole time. So, I do think that Dave put it there as a symbolic icon about the Schrödinger cat and the ending. Tony is both dead and alive and that’s why we got the finale as it is.
Very good video, one event I thought would end up being discussed wasn’t though - during the reception after Livia’s funeral, a man resembling a younger Uncle Junior slowly walks up & down the Sopranos’ stairs in the background of certain shots. Compounded with the reflection showing Pussy incident that was discussed in the video, it definitely contributes to what seems like a palpable supernatural bent to the overall narrative
People are free to disagree with me, but if the Virgin Mary is meant to be purely symbolic/not real in the context of the show, then why does it show up in the mirror at an angle that Paulie was not looking at before he turns around and finally sees her? At least when Tony approached the mirror where he saw Pussy, he was, at first, facing the mirror directly (making it harder to distinguish between his perspective and the surroundings outside Tony's perception).
The crew also make a point of showing us in the rest of this scene that Paulie never looks back at the mirror to check for her reflection after he sees the Virgin Mary like Tony does when he thinks he sees Pussy. To me, this opens up the possibility that Paulie never saw her reflection at all (if I thought I saw a ghost with a mirror right behind me, I would turn back around to see if the figure's reflection was visible). This begs the question: why include that shot where her reflection can be seen outside of Paulie's point of view if her sighting was supposed to just be a figment of his troubled mind and superstitious imagination? By including that visual cue (though there is always the possibility of this simply being a production mistake), they are demonstrating that this enigmatic Virgin Mary figure is "interacting" with the world in a way that goes beyond Paulie's perspective. If she is not real at all, then there really is no explanation for why can she be seen outside of Paulie's visual field (and why Paulie doesn't give any attention to the possible reflection at all, even when describing it to Tony later).
I'm not even a believer (wasn't even raised in any religion at all). That is not to suggest that such beliefs would invalidate anyone's interpretation of the scene, I am just clarifying that my interpretation of this scene is rooted not in my personal beliefs, but in how I perceive the logic of the visual and auditory cues presented in the scene. Put simply, while I acknowledge and appreciate the ambiguity of its presentation throughout the show, IMO, the way that scene was shot (combined with the confirmation of supernatural happenings in The Many Saints of Newark) suggests to me that Paulie was indeed seeing something supernatural (whose appearance may have been "tailored," so to speak, to appeal to/convey something impactful to someone like Paulie).
The virgin Mary is sooo big in the mirror, that it's impossible to be out of Paulie's vision range.
It's pretty open to interpretation, but I think Paulie sees/feels the reflection before effectively looking.
I'd like to think the crew goes into that level of detail, but in the end, probably, maybe the shots are not meant to be that deep.
For instance, I think Tony doesn't see pussy, he just feels it, because of the way it was filmed. It's the audience who sees pussy, but not Tony. Which is kinda fucked up I guess.
But again, maybe it's not meant to be that deep. There's a general feel of super natural around these scenes and maybe that's just it.
When chasing Mikey Palmice, the plant that Paulie runs into isn’t actually poison ivy - looks a lot like a hickory. I always imagined that Paulie was unable to identify poison ivy and him freaking out just played more into his being a hypochondriac
That, or, they don't expect the actor to run into actual poison ivy and most people wouldn't know the difference if they just use any random plant.
But good eye.
Kinda wished you mentioned Paulie visiting the church to visit the priest. When he leaves, he turns to face the Christ statue. The eyes of the statue are closed to Paulie, when they should be open.
And there's that cat staring at Chris' picture.