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- The Sopranos is known for its elaborate dream sequences that delve into the character's fears and desires, but there is one that stands out: The Coma Dream. In this dream, we get to explore Tony's character in a way we never have before and get insight into not only the character but also the theme of the entire show.
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I heard Meadow is his guardian Angel. She was there to remove the lamp and she called him into life again and she was just a little too late when he got shot.
Interesting point. Also I think it was season one, Tony was about to get shot but he had to help carry Meadow to her room when she was drunk so the guy hesitated, saving Tony's life.
@@chezza9116 oh yes. True I forgot about that.
If Meadow had been better at parallel parking, she would have entered earlier and been sitting next to Tony, either she would have taken the bullet for him or the hit man would have hesitated not expecting to see her there and put off the hit for another time.
@@vanessa.jasmine I mean, to be fair it's possible she *did* save him
@@johnr797
The show is about Tony and his life. The show's sudden stop and cut to blackness is because Tony and his life is over. Tony is dead so there is nothing left for us to see.
Just when he thought he was out Meadow pulled him back in
Just when he thought he was dead, Meadow pulled him back Innnn!
Glad I’m not the only one that immediately thought “it was probably Meadow”
Before they even showed her face I was like “probably Meadow”
Her voice pulled him from death but in the last ever episode she wasn't there in time to save him!
@@danielx5740 that’s the first cool tidbit I’ve heard in years that hasn’t already been pointed out a billion times over 😂
Get this man a pin
The scariest thing to me is how large Livia loomed over Tony and his hell is shared with his mother. Shows you how evil she really was.
An eternity with her is definitly a hell for him.. thats crazy
Every mother.
@@DJKinney felt this
@@faysuxxss you wrote this two months ago but I wanted to share my appreciation of your support.
@@DJKinney no, thank you!
Glad you caught that Kino, very observant. The sacred and the propane.
The precipice of a crossroads.
an “enormous” crossroads 😂
Lmao and remember...a pint of blood 🩸 costs more than a gallon of gold 😂 😂 😂 😂
I know you’re time is less then limited
Profane isn't even a big word, either.
This went from introspective to creepy real quick once the references to hell, his creepy mother's shadow, the house and Chris' warning to Tony happened. Felt like an eerie horror story about satan stealing his soul...was just anticipating the possession. Awesome analysis as always
My theory on Tony's coma. It's simply a reference to the Matrix. The movie i mean. This show is basicly a comedy. Extremly smart. Very well played, and shot. But not really deep meaning oriented. For the most part. So you can tell that Tony's coma double episodes are enigmatics some how. To me Tony is just intubated instead of being plugged in the back of the head like in the matrix. His new identity, same. The non sense monks, same. Just bold guys outside the matrix, like the movie. What the fuck am i talking about ? Watch closer. Tony is Ben Affleck. AJ is Casey Affleck. Polly is Mel Gibson. Junior Soprano is Robert Deniro. Johnny Sacramoni is Paul Sorvino. And It goes on and on. These Hollywhood dudes are using clones/avatars/whatever of themselfes to play in multiples shows and movies but with different identities. I'm crazy ? In season 2, tell me that Richie Aprile is David Proval and not Al Pacino...
@@remidelmes4839 Dude, if you aren't joking, get some help.
@@hanspennyloaf335 I know, what the fuck is this guy smoking.
@@hanspennyloaf335 I did think Richie Aprile was Al pachino in s2
When he sees a light directly shining in his eye as a lighthouse on the horizon you get the an impression of just how fuckin far gone he is
“You know, Quasimodo predicted all this.”
"Who??"
"Quasimodo!"
"Nostradamus!! Quasimodo is the hunchback of Notre Dame"
"Yeah, whatever, Notre damus."
"NOSTRADAMUS and NOTRE DAME. Two different things completely."
I love that scene lol.
You got yer quarter back and yer hunchback of Notredame, you never thought about that.?
Had Bobby been playing with Christopher's chemistry set that day I wonder?
The sacred and the propane.
@@sweeneytodd011 “I happen to know that you were high at my mother in laws wake”
“My muddah‘s wake!”
OMG. I think some of the funniest dialogue ever on TV was not from any sitcom, but from The Sopranos. 'Peeps is his nickname!!' 'Fucking guy is dyslexic' 'What does that have to do with anything??" Ha ha ha ha!!!
Seemed like everyone the loved the mob story hated the dream sequences in the Sopranos. I loved the dream sequences. This show took so many chances and almost tried to alienate its audience. But people still loved it.
The show was pure gangster but at heart was all character studies.
Low iq superficial wanna be tough guys and bored housewives maybe. True fans of cinema understood that this was a character analysis, the backdrop was just another cast member
@@mickyzzzeee I've seen comments on other videos calling the family scenes boring. I'd like to think someone who would say that must be a child, but I'm not so sure.
I just hate dream sequences generally. There are better ways to explore character. Are anyone's dreams really such a clear indication of their feelings? Mine often feature extremely random people I barely know.
I've seen a lot of people say they skip the dream scenes and Melfi scenes and I'm like what!? I love every scene in the show. Every time you watch, you can pick up on something you never thought of. The dream scenes are so good, because it's like how we all really dream. I always have weird dreams like that. Like someones coming for me and I shoot at them and my gun won't work or the bullets keep skimming the top of their head. All of the scenes are amazing.
Tony's shooting and coma was also useful in exploring what Tony's death would mean to those around him. While Tony is layed out in the hospital, Eugene Pontecorvo is literally layed out in the funeral parlor. We see how Carmella, Anthony and Meadow would behave in his absence if Tony died. How his crew, who were loyal only out of fear, would eventually plot to succeed him (Silvio/Vito) and cut their financial obligations to Tony's family (Vito and Paulie). It sets up the abrupt Series Finale cut to black ending/killing perfectly... because we all know what happens next. In many ways we've seen it.
Also, Eugene's wife is maybe the only person that didn't know him well or even barely at all that literally said someone should kill him. She told Eugene to kill him and of course just about everyone had a reason to kill him but she was the only one that barely knew him. The end could have also been a dream sequence.
My theory on Tony's coma. It's simply a reference to the Matrix. The movie i mean. This show is basicly a comedy. Extremly smart. Very well played, and shot. But not really deep meaning oriented. For the most part. So you can tell that Tony's coma double episodes are enigmatics some how. To me Tony is just intubated instead of being plugged in the back of the head like in the matrix. His new identity, same. The non sense monks, same. Just bold guys outside the matrix, like the movie. What the fuck am i talking about ? Watch closer. Tony is Ben Affleck. AJ is Casey Affleck. Polly is Mel Gibson. Junior Soprano is Robert Deniro. Johnny Sacramoni is Paul Sorvino. And It goes on and on. These Hollywhood dudes are using clones/avatars/whatever of themselfes to play in multiples shows and movies but with different identities. I'm crazy ? In season 2, tell me that Richie Aprile is David Proval and not Al Pacino...
That is a well made point
@@remidelmes4839 Actual schizophrenia
@@remidelmes4839 dude, please, for the love of God, take your motherfucking meds
Honestly 200 years from now David Chase will be seen as a genius and the sopranos as best series ever made. Just finished my 4th run.
I agree. I think Sopranos and Chase will be studied for many many years.
People are already saying that, so in 5 years, people will start calling it overrated
@@irockdirtyshoes Realism wise, sure. But the story of the sopranos is much better
@Rooster Sopranos could be at risk. When enough people are gushing over a show, and there's endless TH-cam videos praising its genius, people will start calling it overrated. That's what happened with BB
My theory on Tony's coma. It's simply a reference to the Matrix. The movie i mean. This show is basicly a comedy. Extremly smart. Very well played, and shot. But not really deep meaning oriented. For the most part. So you can tell that Tony's coma double episodes are enigmatics some how. To me Tony is just intubated instead of being plugged in the back of the head like in the matrix. His new identity, same. The non sense monks, same. Just bold guys outside the matrix, like the movie. What the fuck am i talking about ? Watch closer. Tony is Ben Affleck. AJ is Casey Affleck. Polly is Mel Gibson. Junior Soprano is Robert Deniro. Johnny Sacramoni is Paul Sorvino. And It goes on and on. These Hollywhood dudes are using clones/avatars/whatever of themselfes to play in multiples shows and movies but with different identities. I'm crazy ? In season 2, tell me that Richie Aprile is David Proval and not Al Pacino...
I still get goosebumps when we see the shape that is assumed to be his mother
Yep his ma was the women in the house nd he knew she was nt in good place so he left bk to daughter calling him
yeah its a very odd, discomforting presence
That what make me think it’s hell. She would not be in his heaven,
Yep me too
It scares the shit out of you… people assume hell is a lake of fire…. What if it’s a house full of people you can’t stand that you can never leave? Gives me the creeps!
One of the more deeply unsettling episodes in the show. By the end, with the final music choice, David Chase almost beggingly made you sympathize with Tony to once again take us on a ride in season 6 in order to try to understand the greatest sociopath to have ever existed on TV.
That's the beauty of this show. Tony wasn't a sociopath, he was legitimately depressed and battled with having to be the boss 24/7.
@@AQT187Seriously?... Sociopaths can be depressed & stressed jus like anyone else
@@nathanduncan672 sociopaths don't feel guilt or remorse for their actions. Tony did. He was not a sociopath, he was an asshole. A sociopath wouldn't reflect on the things Tony did. They have no empathy or sympathy. Tony had both. He was a spoiled brat and AJ was exactly who Tony would have been without the criminal lifestyle, which is why he was so worried about "saving this kid".
@@AQT187 Tony lacked empathy, & what little hed had died throughout the show. I never felt Tony really had real remorse outside of a constant identity crisis, how he perceives himself. It's more of a ego's remorse than true empathy with genuine longevity. Not all sociopaths are emotionless meat machines, thats jus A&E shit to make them seem more spooky
@@nathanduncan672 pie-o-my and Tracy were parts of his empathy turned into anger. Killing his cousin and even a bit of Matthew Bevalaqua's murder stuck with him. He battled with that because he's the boss and he isn't supposed to give a shit.
This is really well-observed. love your Sopranos essays dude! The bit with the brief case - amazing
Thanks a ton!
Wtf bruh I was just binging your vids and now your here? Spooky
@@kaga_me lol. no way. is that 'guh' guy in your pic?
@@OrdinaryThings guh huh, it sure is
@@OrdinaryThings Hey, Ordinary fella, how about a Pure Kino shout out? And don't forget to say Borko sent you, or next time, there won't be a next time...
The Alzheimer's reminds him of the guy who sent him into the coma (Junior)
I thought the same thing.
That’s a good point I never noticed 😅
Probably so. I think it also has to do with him already feeling death approaching even though, as he tells the doctor, he's only 48(?). Also has something to do with his feeling like parts of him have died or are dying, and the overall sense in the dream that he doesn't really know who he is.
OH! RIMSHOT!
@@aleisterbroley900 plus his subconcious is giving him strong signals about the 'better treatments', the doctor in his dream says 'see your doctor when you get back', which is basically acknowledging the fact that Melfi is the only way out of this misery. Since season 5 Tony has been slipping and losing control, and only if he would really confront his true problems (his father, which Melfi often tried to make him understand is the reason for this) he can be a better person and survive his mental state
The scene with Steve Buscemi where he wants Tony to leave his briefcase behind reminds me of the classic Twilight Zone episode the Hunt. Where the old man is almost lured into hell but they want him to leave his dog behind which he doesn't do. Also the Twilight Zone episode A Stop at Willoughby has similarities to his dream.
My theory on Tony's coma. It's simply a reference to the Matrix. The movie i mean. This show is basicly a comedy. Extremly smart. Very well played, and shot. But not really deep meaning oriented. For the most part. So you can tell that Tony's coma double episodes are enigmatics some how. To me Tony is just intubated instead of being plugged in the back of the head like in the matrix. His new identity, same. The non sense monks, same. Just bold guys outside the matrix, like the movie. What the fuck am i talking about ? Watch closer. Tony is Ben Affleck. AJ is Casey Affleck. Polly is Mel Gibson. Junior Soprano is Robert Deniro. Johnny Sacramoni is Paul Sorvino. And It goes on and on. These Hollywhood dudes are using clones/avatars/whatever of themselfes to play in multiples shows and movies but with different identities. I'm crazy ? In season 2, tell me that Richie Aprile is David Proval and not Al Pacino...
@@remidelmes4839 bruh
@@remidelmes4839 wow... Someone call Dr. Melfi for this guy
Two of my favorite episodes of a show every bit as influential as The Sopranos.
The idea that his mom is so evil that she awaits him in hell is horrifying, livia is the only true antagonist in the sopranos from start to finish you could essentially come to somewhat of an understanding with all of tonys enemies throughout the show but his mom's actions towards him even when he tried taking care of her she was purely satanic towards him, the only time she smiled at him was when she was laughing at him when he finally confronted her for her sick deeds in the hospital as she was carted off also once again horrifying.
"they say there is no two people on earth the same but do they know it for sure. because they need to get everybody together in one place. all the people live and have lived" - chris at livias wake
"when i came in to open up one morning there you were with your head half in the toilet. your hair was in the toilet water. disgusting" - silvio
The bit about Livia trying to drag Tony to hell reminded me of that scene with Ralph where he quotes Gladiator. "In this world or the next, I will have my revenge"
Also Paulie screaming in his sleep "Ya draggin me to hell, ya draggin me to hell!"
My theory on Tony's coma. It's simply a reference to the Matrix. The movie i mean. This show is basicly a comedy. Extremly smart. Very well played, and shot. But not really deep meaning oriented. For the most part. So you can tell that Tony's coma double episodes are enigmatics some how. To me Tony is just intubated instead of being plugged in the back of the head like in the matrix. His new identity, same. The non sense monks, same. Just bold guys outside the matrix, like the movie. What the fuck am i talking about ? Watch closer. Tony is Ben Affleck. AJ is Casey Affleck. Polly is Mel Gibson. Junior Soprano is Robert Deniro. Johnny Sacramoni is Paul Sorvino. And It goes on and on. These Hollywhood dudes are using clones/avatars/whatever of themselfes to play in multiples shows and movies but with different identities. I'm crazy ? In season 2, tell me that Richie Aprile is David Proval and not Al Pacino...
I really like how Meadow says “White, too,” when AJ says “I thought black meant death!” because she isn’t saying black doesn’t mean death. She’s saying that both symbolize death. So, the cut to black ties to AJ’s line about thinking black symbolizes death. This show is so brilliant, multi-faceted. Best of all time, imo.
Chrissy: "sleep is the only thing i still enjoy"
How many ppl have felt that way in life?
grade A content btw, I'm also into psychology, fascinating stuff for sure.
Well it IS one of the only pure things that are enjoyable.
Nothing comes close to existing within another world, even if for a few hours.
Absolutely. I said that to myself only a few weeks ago.
Insomnia is hell
"sleep, those little slices of death, how i loathe them"
Edgar Allen Poe.
Another person who suffered with depression along with addiction to alcohol and I'm sure the odd dabble in opium.
I however don't agree with EAP on this one and like Christopher enjoy sleeping although i always have done, sleeping, day dreaming.
@@jonathangriffiths2499 I don’t fall to sleep until between 6-7am I’m 37 and been like this since age 16 it’s like mental torture
“Enough wit da fucking preambles”. Beautiful.
Someone tell Michael Imperioli and Steve Schirripa we need Kino on Talking Sopranos big time ..like yesterday...this is the very best break down of the Sopranos ever, ever 💯💯💯💯 Dude analysed the finale episode better than anyone ever.
I can't wait for Steve to ask me if I auditioned for the part lmao
@@PureKino did you read for David, kino?
I personally believe that it means when he faces the reality of the afterlife, he’s not prepared to face all that he has done. Some believe that when they die, before they are accepted into the “heaven of their religion” they must face the people and actions of their past. When he’s shot, he is invited to go to a party uptown, he meets his cousin, the only man who would have understood why Tony killed him. The only one to forgive him. He isn’t ready to ask for forgiveness from all those he’s killed, betrayed, wronged and hurt. Hence his attitude in season 6, he’s disconnected from his mafia life more than any other season. He’s bored, but happy, disconnected but yet more involved than ever. Wants so bad to ignore the problems between his family and The New York family’s. He understand that his life truly is an endless cycle of pain and regret until inevitable death. So he tries hard to deal with it all and change himself. But, due to his sociopathy, he kept returning to his life. But this time he becomes worse, understanding that he’s damned already.
Yep
I really felt this shit 😔
My theory on Tony's coma. It's simply a reference to the Matrix. The movie i mean. This show is basicly a comedy. Extremly smart. Very well played, and shot. But not really deep meaning oriented. For the most part. So you can tell that Tony's coma double episodes are enigmatics some how. To me Tony is just intubated instead of being plugged in the back of the head like in the matrix. His new identity, same. The non sense monks, same. Just bold guys outside the matrix, like the movie. What the fuck am i talking about ? Watch closer. Tony is Ben Affleck. AJ is Casey Affleck. Polly is Mel Gibson. Junior Soprano is Robert Deniro. Johnny Sacramoni is Paul Sorvino. And It goes on and on. These Hollywhood dudes are using clones/avatars/whatever of themselfes to play in multiples shows and movies but with different identities. I'm crazy ? In season 2, tell me that Richie Aprile is David Proval and not Al Pacino...
Borko is gonna needs pure kinos scratch if he's gonna buy that new boat
@@acourdour5576 Who does he think he is, sir Walter Raleigh??
Borko's a bit of a poseur if u ask me
Holy shit, the house from the coma was on the wall at holstens and 3 oclock
David chase wasnt kidding when he said its all there.
Great job
Never realized that! Just thought it was, you know, 'decoration'.
It's definitely not the house from the coma.
The coma house is a big colonial -hotel- home in NJ. The picture on the wall is a small farmhouse with a front porch and shed on the left
@@histguy101 Oh! Good eyes!
@@histguy101I think it’s the house from the calling all cars dream
It's an instance of foreshadowing that if he had continued going down Kevin Finnerty's path, he would end up dead. When he reverted back to his old ways and ignored his second chance at a better life, he sealed his fate at the diner.
And yet there are moments when he almost turns it around. Like when he won't go to bed with the real estate woman, reminded of his love for Carmela by the purple shirt.
Borko better be getting his taste
two times he was told to kick up to borko , and what'd he do he kicks up to hbo
@@ultraheaven8968 made it all the way to the R’s. Next time, there won’t be a next time.
I dunno, Kino here falls under the "racket for the jews".
@@YaowBucketHEAD be careful with the desert people
Retroactively, cuz this is the first time I'm hearing about this
Any episode that focused on Tony's dreams were just phenomenal.
Wow the 3 O'clock observation in Holstens blew me away.
I still don’t get it
It wasn’t 3:00 when they met
So what does the 3 even mean ???
@@ManuelRodriguez-mg8km as in directional. To his right, his “3 o clock.”
@@JuanTurks27 ohhhhhhhhhhhhhh
Ok I get it
Good greif that’s a lot of depth tho
@@ManuelRodriguez-mg8km It's used in military, air control etc when you need to quickly tell someone where to look or where something is
i've always known about the 3'oclock toilet angle and the shooter, but never noticed the painting on the wall being the house that has indeed blown me away
Nice interpretation. I'd even say the metaphor goes deeper. Death for Tony means the total absence of light in his life, it's a spiritual death if you will. Whatever conscience and morality he might have before this, is now gone. He's been at last totally corrupted by the criminal life of his family. That's why his own uncle, who used to be a father figure to him, is the one who ends the little light in Tony's life. The family (nor the mafia nor his real family) doesn't mean anything to him anymore. He just wants to enjoy his miserable life, without any regard for anything or anyone, that's why he has to let his briefcase, which represents the guilt and the weight of the life he never asked for and was thrust upon him. At the end of the season, he doesn't even remember the realization he had at the end of the first one. He's dead on the inside. Cut to black.
My theory on Tony's coma. It's simply a reference to the Matrix. The movie i mean. This show is basicly a comedy. Extremly smart. Very well played, and shot. But not really deep meaning oriented. For the most part. So you can tell that Tony's coma double episodes are enigmatics some how. To me Tony is just intubated instead of being plugged in the back of the head like in the matrix. His new identity, same. The non sense monks, same. Just bold guys outside the matrix, like the movie. What the fuck am i talking about ? Watch closer. Tony is Ben Affleck. AJ is Casey Affleck. Polly is Mel Gibson. Junior Soprano is Robert Deniro. Johnny Sacramoni is Paul Sorvino. And It goes on and on. These Hollywhood dudes are using clones/avatars/whatever of themselfes to play in multiples shows and movies but with different identities. I'm crazy ? In season 2, tell me that Richie Aprile is David Proval and not Al Pacino...
@@remidelmes4839 Ralph Cypheretto wanted to eat wine and steak when they plugged him back in lol
Stupid & nonsensical analysis.
the dream sequence...whatever happened there
WHATEVER HAPPENED THERE?!
Calm down my cousin is dead
May gid rest his soul, huh
@@negoxis123 the wallet
I love how the whole coma dream is open to interpretation as dreams in real life is but the best thing is how it’s never explained how or who put up the Ojibwe phase
I liked how someone compared the white light he sees in the Finerty near death experience, to the dim light in Vegas after he kills Chris.
That dim light is symbolic of his soul/outlook because he decides to completely give into his hedonistic side, when this near death experience was a warning that he was on the wrong path
You passed me over for promotion, Kino. You knew.
The finnerty inn or Infinity also Fin means end
Kev in finity
That shadow woman freaks me the hell out. Especially when they show her in the other dream you mentioned. Man, I literally just rewatched the Sopranos for the 20th time, and you've made me want to watch it again. Lol. Great video!
watch Jacob's ladder.
The most important takeaway from this video was "4 dollars a pound"
And as awful as this might sound, idk which exact episode bur I think late in the series, I crave fresh caught pescaditos everytime I hear/see Tony order that grouper sandwich lol
Ultimately, the Sopranos is us watching Tony turn his back on changing his ways. Over and over again he ignores the Piano over his head, and this story-line is the final straw. I Think what makes most of this really impressive is that you can just gleam it from watching the episodes a few times and keeping up with the THEMES that run through Tony's story. It's subtle in a way that most shows cannot be, but also all spelled out and shown to you. I agree with about 95% of what you're presenting, and I think Finite (or however it's spelled) is the bad guy. The infinite vs the finite. I did not catch the portrait of the house and 3 o'clock, though I've always believed Tony died. Good stuff.
My theory on Tony's coma. It's simply a reference to the Matrix. The movie i mean. This show is basicly a comedy. Extremly smart. Very well played, and shot. But not really deep meaning oriented. For the most part. So you can tell that Tony's coma double episodes are enigmatics some how. To me Tony is just intubated instead of being plugged in the back of the head like in the matrix. His new identity, same. The non sense monks, same. Just bold guys outside the matrix, like the movie. What the fuck am i talking about ? Watch closer. Tony is Ben Affleck. AJ is Casey Affleck. Polly is Mel Gibson. Junior Soprano is Robert Deniro. Johnny Sacramoni is Paul Sorvino. And It goes on and on. These Hollywhood dudes are using clones/avatars/whatever of themselfes to play in multiples shows and movies but with different identities. I'm crazy ? In season 2, tell me that Richie Aprile is David Proval and not Al Pacino...
The final scene when livia was waiting for him inside and tony b was telling tony that it was time to go home is one of the best tv scenes i’ve ever witnessed, phenomenal show
And Paulie talking while “Finnerty” is angry and screaming for the noise to stop
Holy crap, the connection between the house and the picture at Holsteins is something I would never catch without it being pointed out! I was already in the camp of believing he was killed but now I’m actually sure. Though I think the point is that it might not matter because the conversation with his lawyer seems to imply that there’s a very solid case against Tony Soprano at this point. And the only surviving «friend» is Paulie, who when Tony Soprano seemed to be dying made it clear that he did not want to provide for Tony’s family. Things are over for Tony at the end of the series no matter what happens
I watched the final episode "live" and I thought Tony had made it out alive. But I now agree, everything points to his death, and I'm just glad we didn't see it. I'm currently re-watching with my wife, who did not see the series when it aired, and we're well into Season 6, and the Godfather restaurant scene, with Michael killing Sollozzo and the police captain, is described by AJ as his father's favorite movie scene. With Members Only paralleling Michael's actions as he walks to the bathroom, Tony dies doing what he loved in multiple ways.
I needed a channel like this after finishing the show for the first time, and this does not disappoint.
AMAZING . As someone who feels like they've wound up in a place they dont wanna be, this hit home. thank you
What is the significance of Kevin Finnerty being from Kingman, Arizona? Was the town picked at random? I know a lot of ex-mobsters went into the witness protection program in Arizona, such as Sammy the Bull.
@@ericbonofacio4695 Interesting theory. I had never made that connection.
Doesn't big Puss also talk to Skip about AZ for his WP destination?
Wow never seen this theory. Kevin finnerty is Tony’s witness protection identity. I love the theory that our dreams are who we really are and “reality “ is who we think and tell ourselves we are, almost like reality itself is a defense mechanism we fabricate to shield us from the painful truth. Crazy to think of
10:22 This hits so fucking hard. I try and tray and to be better morally and spiritually but the ease of sin always gets the better of me. But I think the point is we can never give up. If we gain an inch to becoming a better person then that is one inch closer to salvation then we were at before.
The show itself was a masterpiece but these parts combined w his Trip in the desert and other dream sequences is why its the best show ever created. I will say the wire comes close in its character development of an entire city but there were magic moments that made sopranos the greatest show ever
I’m with you. I saw breaking bad and thought it was as good as it gets… then I watched the sopranos a couple times. It simply does not get better than the sopranos.
Sometimes I go about in pity for myself, all the while, a great Kino carries me across the Jersey Turnpike.
I thought the woman on the phone sounded like Gloria (the goomar that committed suicide), but charmaine is an interesting theory as well 🤔
lol just watched that ep and my first thought was Adrianna. Charmaine makes a lot more sense tho lol. I do think Adrianna and tony's relationship is really interesting tho and wish the show explored it more. only on episode 4 of season 6 so maybe they do later.
@@owengray3785 oh they explore it alright lol. Come back and talk about it when you’re done
LOL "Anyway, four dollars a pound." I loved that dream.
In the diner in the final scene, Tony is wearing the same shirt he was wearing when he was shot by Junior. The shirt Tony wears when he *enters* the diner is a different shirt entirely than the one he's wearing when he's sitting down. This seems to indicate that the scene in the diner itself is not actually happening - it's either hell or a dream since Tony manages to change shirts between walking in and sitting down and he's somehow wearing the same shirt that got a bullet put through it.
There's also a shot in the The Test Dream where Tony walks into his old coach's office. It looks almost identical to the shot where Tony walks into the diner in the finale - Tony has the same facial expression in both shots, the camera is in a similar position, and in both shots he's wearing a gray shirt with a black jacket over it. It's very possible that the last scene is not even happening and is just a dream. It shares a lot in common with other dreams Tony has had throughout the series, including unexplained wardrobe changes, figures appearing who represent important elements of his life, and it even contains a picture of the house he's occasionally dreamed about.
watched half a dozen vids about that last scene now yet no one mentioned that shirt change. wow
Wow, that's flipping amazing insight. Brilliant.
No film or programme has done dreams like the sopranos. Such a phenomenal piece of art and television.
Twin Peaks.
One thing that really caught my attention was when Tony was reluctant to give up his suitcase, saying "his life was in there", possibly meaning handing it over would've meant death, symbolically giving away his life
Captain obvious here.
Kevin Finnerty is an Irish name. Hell is an Irish bar according to Chris
Charles Schwab over heeeee
This show offered what I think are probably the best dream sequences I've ever seen, because they are structured so much like dreams I have had (and maybe everyone else). Different identity, different loved ones (the voice on the phone isn't Carmela's voice), people, locations, and circumstances all change without reason. "Real" people appearing in a dream might have a totally different persona. Coherent, rational statements are blended with total nonsense/non-sequiturs. Some references are easy to grasp, others have little or no reason at all. Pretty interesting stuff.
These analysis vids just keep getting better and better!
I was once in the hospital because I was really badly injured and almost got burnt alive as a kid and in the hospital I was having very vivid realistic dreams that I was me but in a different life. I grew up and then had a wife in the dream. It was a very extra ordinary feeling.
I remember her sitting on a table and asking if I was hungry? If I want anything to eat? Makes me cry when I think about this because it just felt so fucking real. Like if I was really awake but inside that dream.
I also had a different life dream vruh it was fucked up. I wrote it it all down.
The dream ended with my receiving letters of the family of my dream wife, whom hurt me and expelled me from their home for my relationship with her, saying they were sorry but I just kinda like "eh its ok whatever" and moved to see rhe next letters.
Gives me hope for a good omen of having no trouble with forgiveness in my life, the only real thing that matters.
I think you're spot on with Charmaine, I thought that same thing. Tony and Charmaine dated in high school and would have probably stayed together had it not been for Tony's involvement in organized crime. In that sense Carmella represent his marriage to the mob while Charmaine is the opposite of that, as she states herself in one of the early episodes.
My theory on Tony's coma. It's simply a reference to the Matrix. The movie i mean. This show is basicly a comedy. Extremly smart. Very well played, and shot. But not really deep meaning oriented. For the most part. So you can tell that Tony's coma double episodes are enigmatics some how. To me Tony is just intubated instead of being plugged in the back of the head like in the matrix. His new identity, same. The non sense monks, same. Just bold guys outside the matrix, like the movie. What the fuck am i talking about ? Watch closer. Tony is Ben Affleck. AJ is Casey Affleck. Polly is Mel Gibson. Junior Soprano is Robert Deniro. Johnny Sacramoni is Paul Sorvino. And It goes on and on. These Hollywhood dudes are using clones/avatars/whatever of themselfes to play in multiples shows and movies but with different identities. I'm crazy ? In season 2, tell me that Richie Aprile is David Proval and not Al Pacino...
Artie would have been in the Mob if it weren't for Charmaine. Apparently he was the bad influence on Tony when they were growing up!
I always thought the shadowy woman was just his mother, and they couldn't have the actual actress who played livia because she was dead.
"Whattaya hear, whattaya say?"
Nice analysis Kino, keep up the great work!
Thanks for the support!!
My theory on Tony's coma. It's simply a reference to the Matrix. The movie i mean. This show is basicly a comedy. Extremly smart. Very well played, and shot. But not really deep meaning oriented. For the most part. So you can tell that Tony's coma double episodes are enigmatics some how. To me Tony is just intubated instead of being plugged in the back of the head like in the matrix. His new identity, same. The non sense monks, same. Just bold guys outside the matrix, like the movie. What the fuck am i talking about ? Watch closer. Tony is Ben Affleck. AJ is Casey Affleck. Polly is Mel Gibson. Junior Soprano is Robert Deniro. Johnny Sacramoni is Paul Sorvino. And It goes on and on. These Hollywhood dudes are using clones/avatars/whatever of themselfes to play in multiples shows and movies but with different identities. I'm crazy ? In season 2, tell me that Richie Aprile is David Proval and not Al Pacino...
Wow... I never picked up on the “patio furniture salesman” bit!
This is a fantastic video. I never made that connection with Chris saying “3 o’clock” and Tony’s supposed killer being at 3 o’clock.
One of my favorite details is that in an earlier dream, he's in his house, but the rooms are drastically altered, I have dreams myself all the fucking time where I'll be in my house, or a very familiar building, but it's very different, and out of order, loved that shit
the fact James dropped the whole new jersey accent show how much of a talent James really is
Why DID he drop the accent?
@@anthonykelly7248 im guessing if tony went civilian he wouldn't have hung out with all the ppl with north jersey accents and just ended up sound the way he did? IDK but it is a total contrast to how tony could have been
@@mariyatakeuchi9009 The New Jersey accent Gandolfini used as Tony Soprano for the entire series was a fake accent. In this episode, he actually spoke in his regular every day accent. This is the one episode that you hear James Gandolfini talk how he actually talks.
@chiefosceola14 Doesn't he talk the way he does in real life in the pilot and first episodes? Unless he just used his real voice but not real accent there.
Kino should get his wings for this video.
I noticed when he's on the phone with his wife the 1st time he says "my whole life was in that briefcase" which is why he can't take it into the house later cause he would be accepting death if he gives it up.
My theory on Tony's coma. It's simply a reference to the Matrix. The movie i mean. This show is basicly a comedy. Extremly smart. Very well played, and shot. But not really deep meaning oriented. For the most part. So you can tell that Tony's coma double episodes are enigmatics some how. To me Tony is just intubated instead of being plugged in the back of the head like in the matrix. His new identity, same. The non sense monks, same. Just bold guys outside the matrix, like the movie. What the fuck am i talking about ? Watch closer. Tony is Ben Affleck. AJ is Casey Affleck. Polly is Mel Gibson. Junior Soprano is Robert Deniro. Johnny Sacramoni is Paul Sorvino. And It goes on and on. These Hollywhood dudes are using clones/avatars/whatever of themselfes to play in multiples shows and movies but with different identities. I'm crazy ? In season 2, tell me that Richie Aprile is David Proval and not Al Pacino...
The dream sequences are the best when people say I don’t like the “dream” episode to me you can’t like the show
Im one of those people that didn’t like the dream sequences until people like kino started explaining their meaning behind them
I always loved the dream sequences in sopranos and i like them in other stuff where its well made.
I find myself going back to them often, I've no doubt after seeing this clip it will be on my mind the next week or so and quite possibly, in my dreams.
Anyway, four dollars a pound.
The Sopranos dream sequences were all great
Great video. Funny that you hear Charmaine's voice on the phone because I always thought she sounded just like Gloria Trillo.
Also, Finnerty is an Irish surname. That plus the information we get about Kevin selling faulty equipment implies that Kevin Finnerty could be a member of the Irish Mob. Family and Italian heritage are obviously major themes in the show. These characters are proud and protective of their heritage and families. There's some interesting messaging with that info and tons of ways to interpret it. I'd probably have to spend more time thinking about this to give a thorough and proper interpretation, but I'll leave some basic thoughts, and hopefully, others can run with it and give a better interpretation. Tony's previous dreams about being an immigrant himself (rather than being a second-generation immigrant), the Italian woman he hallucinated, his trip to Italy, encouraging Carmela to go to Italy instead of France, etc. hint at an internal identity crisis about not having a sense of home. His panic attacks about the ducks in the pilot establish that he has anxiety about his own nuclear family. We know his home life as a child was also not good, to say the least. On top of that, he also seems to be struggling with his identity as an Italian American. Oversimplifying the nuanced discussion of ethnicity and second-wave immigration, we know that Italian Americans have been discriminated against and we know that these characters still feel that discrimination in the 1990s/2000s (Columbus episode comes to mind, though there are several other examples of this in the show). The Italian mafia was established, in part, as a reaction to this discrimination and Italian immigrants not being able to get legal work, and I think that adds to this sense that Tony feels like he had no real choice in ending up in the mob. He feels stuck and like the odds were stacked against him, and a lot of that has to do with the family he was born into. Not just hereditary depression and an unstable household, but also a larger system of discrimination. This is also amplified by Tony's own racism throughout the series. Tony mentions that he feels like he's come into power as a boss at the same time that the mob seems to be ending, but not just the mob is on the decline. It is clear that there's a sense of Italian American culture is disappearing. Changing neighborhoods and the shrinking of Little Italy is a clear and present theme throughout the show. There's clearly a sense here that Tony feels like he and his family has never really belonged here, which establishes no real sense of home. Again, this interpretation is a little rushed and messy, I'd love the think more about this, but figured I'd share in the meantime.
This is so out of topic but I need to say this. The episode where Paulie is so fucking paranoid about his biopsy and he went to bada bing and saw mother mary as a hooker shook me. fucking A that was so out of the blue that scene
David Chase has said this was not a dream like the others. I think Tony was getting a lesson from God-a parable in the form of the monks who accused him of being a bad man. The monks were the instructing him that he did bad things-"lose your arrogance"; the doctor in the dream examining his x-rays says he has a darkness. He emerges from the coma due to love for Meadow, but Tony quips that life is boring and ends up choosing evil. He kills Chrissy, and wins in Vegas with devil heads appearing on the slot machine and Tony rolls around the casino floor yelling he can't lose. He takes peyote and says "I GET IT" but he doesn't--it's his arrogance again - having chosen the path to Satan and sealing his doom.
He sold his soul when he killed his own son.
I cant explain why I felt such disgust and literal aversion to even watching the screen anymore after that happened, but that I knew he had made a deal with the evil one.
No connection with the monks and the Asian doctor examining his eyes/consciousness him in his coma?
@makutas-v261 he never killed his son, Chris was his nephew
@@CaseyDavies-od7ir Chris evoked more of a son presence to Tony which made the scene even harder to watch.
its almost Lynchian - its like their lost highway episode or something
You're a made guy now Pure Kino, it's your turn to make some real money and I get to relax a little. Your only problem in life now is, that you give me ten points of your take, every settle up day, other than that you've got no problem. My only problem in life? I gotta kick my points up to Borko sitting over there.
What is this the fuckin' UN now?!
Scotch and soda
Hehe welcome to the nfl, rookie.
The Shadow figure is his mother..🤧☠️👹
My interpretation is different. I personally believe Tony never woke up after he got shot by Uncle Junior. Everything from “Join the Club” and on is Tony having a dream sequence in a coma. Everyone who died in season 6, including Chrissy, is actually still alive. When everything goes dark at the end, that’s just the plug being pulled on him. The end.
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Always with the scenarios
Gotta say tho ...and im not ashamed to say it ...after reading your comment my estimation of keto rising as a sopranos fan jist fucking plumetted cause this theory sucks and is definitely not real
@@nihaalsandim9986 😂
@@ketorising81 wow , i thought ud get mad and reply with some offcolored remark ...lets just say it was in appropriate " but you laughed ...good man !!! Commendatori
That’s wrong
Really interesting video.
Just when you thought this show couldn’t get any deeper!
The depth of detail and subtle clues make rewatching so easy, never have I watched a show over and over as much as The Sopranos.
I always thought it was Charmaine’s voice too.
Many argue that he didn’t actually get worse and that many of the seemingly evil deeds were a form of repentance. Trying to fix what he feels he created in people like Christopher and Ralphie.
Nevertheless, I don’t think it was just regular life “picking at it”. It was his depression and his inevitable transformation into the person he hated the most: his mother.
These Sopranologs will be invaluable watching for Sopranos newbies when The Many Saints of Newark is finally out. Good one, Kino! Way to put that degree to work.
I always thought there is a link between the lighthouse he sees in this dream and the sun that he sees in "Kennedy and Heidi" episode...
Yes! I rarely hear this mentioned
The sun is going down on him. There's a little light in his life... But he chooses to live in darkness. Eventually the light goes out forever.
Great content! I always interpreted in the coma dream that when Tony sees Tony B and about to go into that house he’s being coerced into walking into Hell.
Interesting video but I think it’s incorrect to characterize this as a “dream”. This isn’t a dream. What sets The Sopranos apart from so many TV shows is that the Sopranos has honest to goodness Supernatural occurrences throughout. Whether it’s Pussy in the mirror at Livia’s wake, Paulie’s psychic encounter, Paulie’s Virgin Mary encounter and the coma “trip”. The “Test Dream” is a dream. This? Tony goes somewhere. He’s being judged or tested. I won’t get into what I think it all means but I think Chase’s intent here was to differentiate this coma trip from one of Tony’s regular dream. Something otherworldly & supernatural is happening. Even Tony knows this when Melfi says “alternate dimensions?” when he tells her about his coma.
The cat in the last couple of episode staring at Christopher's picture.
the russian interior decorator disappearing from Christopher and Paulie
@@doughnutholer elaborate please
My theory on Tony's coma. It's simply a reference to the Matrix. The movie i mean. This show is basicly a comedy. Extremly smart. Very well played, and shot. But not really deep meaning oriented. For the most part. So you can tell that Tony's coma double episodes are enigmatics some how. To me Tony is just intubated instead of being plugged in the back of the head like in the matrix. His new identity, same. The non sense monks, same. Just bold guys outside the matrix, like the movie. What the fuck am i talking about ? Watch closer. Tony is Ben Affleck. AJ is Casey Affleck. Polly is Mel Gibson. Junior Soprano is Robert Deniro. Johnny Sacramoni is Paul Sorvino. And It goes on and on. These Hollywhood dudes are using clones/avatars/whatever of themselfes to play in multiples shows and movies but with different identities. I'm crazy ? In season 2, tell me that Richie Aprile is David Proval and not Al Pacino...
My father was in a coma and when he came to and regained another coherence to talk he described having packed his bags and was going somewhere with others…and it was too horrific for him to say or be able to continue.
I pray Jesus leads your father to heaven.
I always thought the name of the inn was peculiar too. “The in at the oaks,” or “inside an oak box,” which could represent his coffin.
The location is really called the oaks in real life
This wasn’t a dream. His soul was in Limbo and the mansion was Hell.
Something interestingting I just saw.
If you take the first letter of In At The Oaks, you get the Italian word IATO, which means waiting ( and moritorium as a synonym)
This has to be more than a coincidence ,as it basically translate to Purgatory. Which Pauly does bring up
I love the eerie dream sequences of Sopranos, it was almost Twilight Zone-ish, gotta go for 6th run of the series.
This video wasn't recommended to me, I searched for it because I was interested in a deeper analysis after watching the show. If I had come looking just 4 months ago I don't think I'd have found anything like this on the site so thank you.
The dreams in The Sopranos remind me of the dreams in Northern Exposure. There’s one specific episode during the time when David Chase took over the show (and there’s a whole side discussion about that) where everyone is experiencing each other’s dreams. One character experiences a dream where he’s selling shoes in a 50s/60s shoe store to a gorgeous blonde. After a few dreams he catches a glimpse of himself in the mirror and realizes whose dream he’s having.
Probably one of the best soprano videos on TH-cam
Has David Chase ever done an interview about his beliefs in religion/supernatural? I'd love to hear about considering the elements present in the Sopranos (most notable Mikey's ghost haunting Paulie)
I remember awhile back reading that David chase wrote the Sopranos in a world where catholicism is the objective reality, the most notable piece of evidence is paulie seeing the Virgin Mary, you can see her reflection in a mirror, which leads to the conclusion that it wasn't just a hallucination on paulie's part.
Tony's Coma Dream is so on point about Real Dreams. He's tryna find Kevin and no matter how hard he tries to find him he won't. Just like in real dreams like when your dreaming about fighting you can hit as hard as you can and no damage will be done or your punches will be slow motion, or if your running in your dream you'll try running so fast but won't go anywhere and won't be able to run. David chase is one smart man
Only in his Dreams will Tony ever be a Varsity Athlete with large Hands
Kino-
Was thinking about this after watching the part where Christopher was in the hospital and told Tony and Paulie the “tree o’clock” thing. He said He’ll is an Irish ☘️ Bar where it’s always St. Patrick’s Day. When Tony is in his coma, Tony’s name is Kevin Finnerty (an Irish name). I don’t know, just crossed my mind. Maybe they all get Irish names as well when they go to Hell.
I never realized how much this episode is connected to other episodes
I can't believe after years of watching Sopranos clips on TH-cam I am just now stumbling into this this amazing insight. By far the best interpretation I've seen to date.
I hate when people say they skip the dream stuff. The way they absolutely nail the dream logic itself is a feat on its own.
The coma dream was so unnerving to me, such a surreal watching experience. It could have been its own little short art house film
Anyone notice that charmagne was the person on the other end of the phone when he called, I think it represented him as Kevin finnerty. As we know they had a thing when they were young. Plus the fact she tried to distance herself from the mafia as much as possible, I think Kevin finnerty represented Tony being straight edge and if he was charmagne would be his wife and not artie.(:
Typed this few minutes in and then see great minds think alike((((:
I recommend to go back to season 1 EP 12 Isabella. If you pause the episode as Tony opens the medicine cabinet. The lithium warns not to exceed 1 tablet daily. Tony pours the Lithium into his open palm, looks back into the bottle, shrugs, then empties the entire bottle into his fist and takes them all.
That was more than a lethal dose of a dangerous psychotic. He sits fully clothed in the shower and the camera rotates from horizontal to vertical. That very well could be the moment that Tony died on the show. The rest of the series could be interpreted as a spiritual odyssey. Tony continues to repeat the same moral mistake over and over and over. Stuck in a loop of disappear of his own making. It goes on and on and on
for me the "3 o clock" thing settles the question of tony's death (along with david chase's slip up in 2019). Very specific picture of that looks almost exactly like the death house located exactly at his 3 o clock. It makes no sense logically for a picture like that to be in a diner, showing chase was being deliberate when placing it there. When the member's only guy would've shot him he would be at almost exactly tony's 3 o clock when he pulled the trigger. Because if he shot tony from behind there's a risk the bullet would go through tony and into carmella/AJ, and it's stated serveral times throughout the series that "families don't get touched". Chase said he was planning the "death sequence" for years, so it makes sense that christopher would mention it in a previous season. I also can't recall the 3 o clock thing coming back into play until the final scene.
What was the David Chase slip?
The only slip up was as presented by click-bait articles looking for content for the 20th anniversary. If you read the actual book, there is no slip up, and Tony's fate is still up to the viewer.
My theory on Tony's coma. It's simply a reference to the Matrix. The movie i mean. This show is basicly a comedy. Extremly smart. Very well played, and shot. But not really deep meaning oriented. For the most part. So you can tell that Tony's coma double episodes are enigmatics some how. To me Tony is just intubated instead of being plugged in the back of the head like in the matrix. His new identity, same. The non sense monks, same. Just bold guys outside the matrix, like the movie. What the fuck am i talking about ? Watch closer. Tony is Ben Affleck. AJ is Casey Affleck. Polly is Mel Gibson. Junior Soprano is Robert Deniro. Johnny Sacramoni is Paul Sorvino. And It goes on and on. These Hollywhood dudes are using clones/avatars/whatever of themselfes to play in multiples shows and movies but with different identities. I'm crazy ? In season 2, tell me that Richie Aprile is David Proval and not Al Pacino..
@@artieboy24 He accidentally referred to the final scene as the death scene (then face palmed. D'oh.)
Your analysis was so good, it gave me an existential crisis at the end.
F'ckin internet
8:00 I actually thought she sounded like Gloria