Wonderful video David. Really excellent. It's nice to see someone who has a fine ear take this pedal through its paces. When it comes to UA pedal amps, I've taken to keeping written notes on my presets. Sometimes I'll take picture of where the dials are. Yes-- slow, inefficient, and maybe a bit nutty, but at the same time, I like the tones enough to make it worth it.
Thanks for the kind words. I think we do whatever works, there's plenty of unorthodox approaches I take that work for me. When you find a piece of gear that works and a workflow to match, thats the important thing! Thanks for watching :)
Marvelous. All these UAFX pedals are outstanding and way ahead of the pack, this one is extraordinary! I thought it would be confusing to tweak in, truth is, it is simple and there are no bad tones it just sounds amazing no matter what options you adjust.
Thanks, good insightful review. I've never bitten on the UA pedals for some of the reasons you cite here, and, as you say, for an amp with so many variables as a Dumble this is only going to more the case. Would it really be hard to allow saving some pre-sets or a proper editor and (please!) MIDI control? Cheers.
Yea it seems like a very deliberate design choice on UA’s part, to keep things as simple on the pedal, but extend it within the app. I just don’t think it really works in practice. It feels like there’s a lot of potential for the concept though, and the tones are fantastic. Reflecting more I think it’s the price that really highlights these small annoyances however, if it was 250 I don’t think I’d be niggled so much, but it’s coming in at what I paid for my original HX stomp when that launched. Feels like there’s premium price should give a premium experience throughout.
I completely agree. They make so many great sounding pedals but unless they add midi I just won’t purchase one as my entire board is controlled via midi. I just don’t understand why they blatantly alienate so many potential customers.
@@josephfry8849 Yes, I have a couple of non-MIDI pedals on my board but they're simple on or off devices, anything where I want to change from song to song or during a song has to be MIDI controllable...it's just bizarre they don't want our money!
Thanks for watching 👍🏻 the demo/ads are useful too and have their place, I just wanted to go at this as neutral as possible given I’ve got no relationship with either. Personally I just am a fractal fanboy though so still hard 😂
I am a newbie to your channel. Instant fan! You are a great tasty player man. Excellent demo of the Enigmatic's crazy-mad sounds. I just got mine this past Tuesday. Still zeroing in on my perfect tweaks. Lots to sift through and there is definitely a deeper way of learning how to intelligently approach the order of tweaks on this beast. I subscribed here and liked (a lot). Looking forward to digging deeper into your other vids. Thanks! Cheers & regards from Stratford, Ontario, Canada. 😎✌🎸
There's something about the UAFX pedals that other modelers and capture devices can't seem to get ahold of. So I use UAFX amp sims. I have the Ruby, the Lion, the Dream and the Enigmatic. All are great and very unique, resoond to effects like the real deal
Povvo is English slang for poor. So PovvODS is a Dumble ODS for those that can't afford the real deal. Like basically everyone! Niche daft jokes in thumbnails make me chuckle.
True. They have something very social in their cab tech, that FAS doesn’t have. Noticed that first when using the Lion. It’s like a certain amount of compression, not just an IR.
I’d be interested to know what about the cab tech is different than an IR? In this pedal it surely just seems like a fixed IR snapshot? I thought putting it through the same cabs would be a fairer way of direct comparisons, but I do spend a fair amount of time auditioning the stock cabs later in the video. They’re very good, but yea what am I missing with regards to the ‘Oxbox tech’? Cheers
@@DavidBeebee UAD have their own IR tech. A conventional IR is a tiny snapshot of audio that acts like a fixed filter, whereas the UAD tech is dynamic and simulates the behaviour of a speaker cone behaving differently as it’s pushed harder.
Oh cool I’ve not tried the fr-10 yet, I’ve long used the laney lfr, but friends speak highly of it. Will check it out sometime. Yea the klines are great, the San Berny looks awesome 👍🏻
Right now I’m still digging my fm3 presets more. But the UA is right up there when using the same IR. Still tweaking the dials when using internal cabs.
Not one video showing how to properly hook this pedal up. It would be great if someone would show the difference sounds hookup to different amps vs straight into a PA or some other form of equipment.
Thank you. You are the first and only person I've seen post the video whether no matter what I felt about it or how it sounded. That actually said that you don't know what a dumble sounds like because no one who's buying this pedal does. I stated in many video comments unless Joe bonamassa, Eric Johnson or Ford will be sitting there going through the settings and saying how it reproduces what they know then I don't want it. That's the biggest problem when they came out with the deluxe reverb variation dream. We kind of all know what it sounds like. Same thing with the ruby but this is different. My biggest problem with this pedal is every sound that I heard. You play every damn ounce of it. I can reproduce right from my effects. Petals I don't have to do a lot of tweaking either so it's kind of silly
You have been visiting all videos related to this pedal, including mine, trolling and whining about it. It seems you are obsessed with it, and copied and pasted the same text over and over again in every single video. Morover, TH-cam filtered you as spam in my channel, since you used all kinds of foul language. Still, you make a fool of yourself and also an ignorant in the subject. UA spent a lot of time with ACTUAL DUMBLE AMPLIFIERS in order to produce the Enigmatic. If you know more, why don't you just post about it, open a channel, and share with us your endless and superior knowledge about Dumble amplifiers? Have fun whining all over the internet while nobody knows who you are.
Yea, I felt that was important to stress, I don't really know if I even like REAL Dumbles, but whatever the character is the models and captures are going for, I generally dig a fair bit.
i have the same opinion, these single pedals are getting more complex everyday, with secondary functions, app, bluetooth....that's why i still prefer a modeler where you have everything inside the unit, avoiding cables and keeping a small footprint
Makes total sense. I could get on board with all the app stuff if it worked reliably but it’s so frustrating to hold important features behind a door that doesn’t open 30% of the time.
Most of these pedal contain the same chips and I/O, the big difference is the interface. Great to have knobs but that limits the functionality. I think Fractal have the game won. You can choose to go nuts and drown in the settings or just skim over the top and enjoy extremely accurate sounds. My next unit will be a Fractal, but should I wait for the new model... I know as soon as I buy one they will bring out a new unit. Great vid with a sane view on what is on offer from both pedals.
You’ve hit the nail on the head with regards to fractal. If one can get over the cost and potentially scary user interface, it really up to the user how deep to go. Either way the tones are incredibly good. The fractal factory presets are shockingly good and present a well rounded overview of the core amp tone capabilities of the devices. I sometimes wonder if there’s a perceived complexity about fractal that isn’t entirely warranted. I really, really like the tones UA have got in this enigmatic pedal, but it’s 1/3rd the cost of a whole fm3 (which gets you 300+ amps in addition to the dumbles ), and isn’t actually solving the simplicity problem given the kinda janky app interface implementation. Still, as I say on the vid, it’s encouraging there’s another company going to this level of quality and detail on the core tone. We’re all winning I guess, well maybe not the wallet 😂
Great video my friend. With all due respect, the Enigmatic sounds much better than the FM3 in this context, at least this preset. Enigmatic is much fuller and texture rich, more sustain, more harmonics. The FM sounds too flimsy and digital, too much treble and no body to the sound. Let's not even bring Line6 to this, because it would have no chance. I had one for a long time. Ditched it because of the characteristic digital sound.
IMHO, Neither sounds like a Dumble... well, not exactly. The overdrive of the Enigmatic sounds Dumble like, minus the larger than life sonic quality of world's best boutique tube amp.
To be fair I also don’t think my preference is to setup a d style like many people would, I really like the glassier lighter gain bounce that they tend to do well.
@@DavidBeebee I think you sound great, and the Steel String Singer is often played with lots of jangle and chime. It's not that, it's that the Enifmatic just doesn't sound full enough to be a Dumble.
So to me FM-9 sounds like it has more presence and airy-ness. honestly, ALL THAT CAN BE FIXED WITH A REALLY GOOD PREAMP/BOOST. WHICH I HAVE ;) NOW I DONT GOT TO BE SUBJECT TO A MULTIEFFECTS PEDAL AND KEEP ALL MY KIDDOS
This is very intentional with how I like to set the ods ford. I engage the cut in the preamp and it gives a very glassy bounce to the notes. I couldn’t find a way to exactly replicate this with the UA. I’m guessing if I turned the cut off on the fm3 preset it work be even closer.
Well that wasn't a Dumble sound at all. Just another typical processed lead tone. Nothing to assume from this. I suspect we have here a video from big pedalboard makers trying to tell you that they can give you what you want. Then they show you what they have and you are supposed to like it! They are not producing anything like Dumble sounds.
Thanks for watching. Video is completely unsponsored, I bought and paid for all the pedals myself and have no affiliation with UA or Fractal. I always make it very clear when and promotion is involved in my videos. Believe it or not, just nerdy and passionate about this stuff! The clue is also into the pun title. It's an ODS for Povvo's. The very first thing I say in the video is also, I don't know what a dumble sound is, and I probably never will. I just like whatever it is this kind of sound is. Anyways thanks for the view! :)
@@DavidBeebee There's a TPS video of the guys and a couple of their buddies playing Robin Fords' Dumble. A lad called Jake plays a Les Paul through it at about 49 mins. into the video. For me, that is the sound right there. Have a listen. I think the video is called something like "He plays it, we play it"
@@DavidBeebee read! The tone he gets there is what I'm after. I just can't get it. I think The Dude or Simble might be the closest on a medium budget. What say you?
I think so many variables come into play when you're just looking at a pedal pedal, what platform is it on, what cab/mic. This is why in some ways looking at the self contained UA or a full modelling option eliminates some of that and makes for interesting comparisons, but I totally appreciate it's not what you're going for. Honestly I don't have enough experience with either the Dude or Simple to give an informed opinion, I hear very good things about the Dude though!
Best video I’ve seen on this pedal so far! Well done!
Thanks! Glad you enjoyed it 😊
Dude has a left hand like Chris Poland. Fantastic stuff.
Thanks for watching, much appreciated! Cheers
Wonderful video David. Really excellent. It's nice to see someone who has a fine ear take this pedal through its paces. When it comes to UA pedal amps, I've taken to keeping written notes on my presets. Sometimes I'll take picture of where the dials are. Yes-- slow, inefficient, and maybe a bit nutty, but at the same time, I like the tones enough to make it worth it.
Thanks for the kind words. I think we do whatever works, there's plenty of unorthodox approaches I take that work for me. When you find a piece of gear that works and a workflow to match, thats the important thing! Thanks for watching :)
Marvelous. All these UAFX pedals are outstanding and way ahead of the pack, this one is extraordinary! I thought it would be confusing to tweak in, truth is, it is simple and there are no bad tones it just sounds amazing no matter what options you adjust.
Dude, three cuts on a box, down the center and the two top sides, could not be easier. That being said you're an outstanding guitarist.
haha thanks Paul, yea my unboxing skills and talking multi-tasking ain't that great thats for sure!
Beebs, the tone, playing and visuals are top-notch. Keep going with the great content! (giving Cordy a run for his money!) 😂
Haha cheers Michael! Much appreciated. But I’ll never be close to the video making machine that is JNC!
Great vid! Both sounded fantastic listening on earbuds. It's been a pleasure listening to new eps of the Guitar Hour too!
Thanks! for watching and commenting… and listening to the new TGHP, good to be back to it 😊👍🏻
Thanks, good insightful review. I've never bitten on the UA pedals for some of the reasons you cite here, and, as you say, for an amp with so many variables as a Dumble this is only going to more the case. Would it really be hard to allow saving some pre-sets or a proper editor and (please!) MIDI control?
Cheers.
Yea it seems like a very deliberate design choice on UA’s part, to keep things as simple on the pedal, but extend it within the app. I just don’t think it really works in practice. It feels like there’s a lot of potential for the concept though, and the tones are fantastic. Reflecting more I think it’s the price that really highlights these small annoyances however, if it was 250 I don’t think I’d be niggled so much, but it’s coming in at what I paid for my original HX stomp when that launched. Feels like there’s premium price should give a premium experience throughout.
I completely agree. They make so many great sounding pedals but unless they add midi I just won’t purchase one as my entire board is controlled via midi. I just don’t understand why they blatantly alienate so many potential customers.
@@josephfry8849 Yes, I have a couple of non-MIDI pedals on my board but they're simple on or off devices, anything where I want to change from song to song or during a song has to be MIDI controllable...it's just bizarre they don't want our money!
@@DavidBeebee exactly, was comparing the original price of the Stomp myself and how much it offers in comparison in every way. Bizarre from UA.
Very informative thank you! refreshing to see an expert review, most videos on this are just demos/ads
Thanks for watching 👍🏻 the demo/ads are useful too and have their place, I just wanted to go at this as neutral as possible given I’ve got no relationship with either. Personally I just am a fractal fanboy though so still hard 😂
Thanks for the very useful video!
Glad it was helpful! Thanks for watching :)
I am a newbie to your channel. Instant fan! You are a great tasty player man. Excellent demo of the Enigmatic's crazy-mad sounds. I just got mine this past Tuesday. Still zeroing in on my perfect tweaks. Lots to sift through and there is definitely a deeper way of learning how to intelligently approach the order of tweaks on this beast. I subscribed here and liked (a lot). Looking forward to digging deeper into your other vids. Thanks! Cheers & regards from Stratford, Ontario, Canada. 😎✌🎸
Thanks for the kind words, watching and subscribing!
I liked the FM3 preset better in the mix, but preferred the Enigmatic tone in isolation.
thanks for watching and sharing your thoughts :)
That A/B box never lets me down. Lets me know immediately what unit I'm keeping and which one goes back to Twatwater. Bahahaha.
There's something about the UAFX pedals that other modelers and capture devices can't seem to get ahold of. So I use UAFX amp sims. I have the Ruby, the Lion, the Dream and the Enigmatic. All are great and very unique, resoond to effects like the real deal
Cool thanks for the comments. I’m definitely intrigued as to try the other UA pedals now 👍🏻
What does Povv stand for or mean?
Povvo is English slang for poor. So PovvODS is a Dumble ODS for those that can't afford the real deal. Like basically everyone! Niche daft jokes in thumbnails make me chuckle.
The settings on the pedal sound better than the Fractal, but a live mix is the ultimate judge.
Yea live mix is a good test!
The Ox box cab tech in the UAD pedals is half the point of them and why they sound good. Not using those makes no sense other than to weaken the UAD.
True. They have something very social in their cab tech, that FAS doesn’t have. Noticed that first when using the Lion. It’s like a certain amount of compression, not just an IR.
I’d be interested to know what about the cab tech is different than an IR? In this pedal it surely just seems like a fixed IR snapshot? I thought putting it through the same cabs would be a fairer way of direct comparisons, but I do spend a fair amount of time auditioning the stock cabs later in the video. They’re very good, but yea what am I missing with regards to the ‘Oxbox tech’? Cheers
@@DavidBeebee UAD have their own IR tech. A conventional IR is a tiny snapshot of audio that acts like a fixed filter, whereas the UAD tech is dynamic and simulates the behaviour of a speaker cone behaving differently as it’s pushed harder.
@@jamesbennettmusic2154 i believe is similar to the dyna cab of Fractal but i never tried the UAD so i could be wrong
Thank God for FM3 ! Now how do I download that tone? 😀
Yep! You can get my presets linked in description :)
You're Amazing ❤
You too!!
@@DavidBeebee 🙏🙏🙏🙏☕☕
Just got an FM9 so, of course, the Fractal wins!
Congrats on the FM9, you’re gonna be very happy with the toneage!
@@DavidBeebee Cheers, awaiting Fender FR-10 and then will throw myself into the FM9 journey
and BTW I've got a K-Line San Bernadino. Chris makes awesome guitars
Oh cool I’ve not tried the fr-10 yet, I’ve long used the laney lfr, but friends speak highly of it. Will check it out sometime. Yea the klines are great, the San Berny looks awesome 👍🏻
After spending 2k on a pedalboard I can imagine it wins... 😂
Both are excellent. Which one do you think is more enjoyable to play?
Right now I’m still digging my fm3 presets more. But the UA is right up there when using the same IR. Still tweaking the dials when using internal cabs.
I found the wireless connectivity on the UA ox box to be dodgy as well. The connection was always getting dropped. The unit itself was ace tho.
Interesting, yea I’ve heard similar comments from others about the ox box connection, and again, it’s a great device for the basic intended purpose.
I longed to see your new video 🎉
Hope you enjoyed it!
Not one video showing how to properly hook this pedal up. It would be great if someone would show the difference sounds hookup to different amps vs straight into a PA or some other form of equipment.
Thank you. You are the first and only person I've seen post the video whether no matter what I felt about it or how it sounded. That actually said that you don't know what a dumble sounds like because no one who's buying this pedal does. I stated in many video comments unless Joe bonamassa, Eric Johnson or Ford will be sitting there going through the settings and saying how it reproduces what they know then I don't want it. That's the biggest problem when they came out with the deluxe reverb variation dream. We kind of all know what it sounds like. Same thing with the ruby but this is different. My biggest problem with this pedal is every sound that I heard. You play every damn ounce of it. I can reproduce right from my effects. Petals I don't have to do a lot of tweaking either so it's kind of silly
You have been visiting all videos related to this pedal, including mine, trolling and whining about it. It seems you are obsessed with it, and copied and pasted the same text over and over again in every single video. Morover, TH-cam filtered you as spam in my channel, since you used all kinds of foul language. Still, you make a fool of yourself and also an ignorant in the subject. UA spent a lot of time with ACTUAL DUMBLE AMPLIFIERS in order to produce the Enigmatic. If you know more, why don't you just post about it, open a channel, and share with us your endless and superior knowledge about Dumble amplifiers? Have fun whining all over the internet while nobody knows who you are.
Yea, I felt that was important to stress, I don't really know if I even like REAL Dumbles, but whatever the character is the models and captures are going for, I generally dig a fair bit.
i have the same opinion, these single pedals are getting more complex everyday, with secondary functions, app, bluetooth....that's why i still prefer a modeler where you have everything inside the unit, avoiding cables and keeping a small footprint
Makes total sense. I could get on board with all the app stuff if it worked reliably but it’s so frustrating to hold important features behind a door that doesn’t open 30% of the time.
Warmdrive is a fabulous D style AIAB and it’s affordable, too!
Cool, I’ll keep an eye out to try one!
@@DavidBeebee the alternate mode of the Wampler Moxie (a TS10) is very similar to a Zendrive, according to Brian. Super affordable too.
yes, but is just an OD, is not an amp emulation
Most of these pedal contain the same chips and I/O, the big difference is the interface. Great to have knobs but that limits the functionality. I think Fractal have the game won. You can choose to go nuts and drown in the settings or just skim over the top and enjoy extremely accurate sounds. My next unit will be a Fractal, but should I wait for the new model... I know as soon as I buy one they will bring out a new unit. Great vid with a sane view on what is on offer from both pedals.
You’ve hit the nail on the head with regards to fractal. If one can get over the cost and potentially scary user interface, it really up to the user how deep to go. Either way the tones are incredibly good. The fractal factory presets are shockingly good and present a well rounded overview of the core amp tone capabilities of the devices. I sometimes wonder if there’s a perceived complexity about fractal that isn’t entirely warranted.
I really, really like the tones UA have got in this enigmatic pedal, but it’s 1/3rd the cost of a whole fm3 (which gets you 300+ amps in addition to the dumbles ), and isn’t actually solving the simplicity problem given the kinda janky app interface implementation.
Still, as I say on the vid, it’s encouraging there’s another company going to this level of quality and detail on the core tone. We’re all winning I guess, well maybe not the wallet 😂
I've got this tone for $50 from tank G 😁
😅🎸🙏🏻 rock it!
Great video my friend.
With all due respect, the Enigmatic sounds much better than the FM3 in this context, at least this preset. Enigmatic is much fuller and texture rich, more sustain, more harmonics. The FM sounds too flimsy and digital, too much treble and no body to the sound. Let's not even bring Line6 to this, because it would have no chance. I had one for a long time. Ditched it because of the characteristic digital sound.
Thanks for watching, and for your thoughts 🙏🏻👍🏻
IMHO, Neither sounds like a Dumble... well, not exactly. The overdrive of the Enigmatic sounds Dumble like, minus the larger than life sonic quality of world's best boutique tube amp.
To be fair I also don’t think my preference is to setup a d style like many people would, I really like the glassier lighter gain bounce that they tend to do well.
@@DavidBeebee I think you sound great, and the Steel String Singer is often played with lots of jangle and chime. It's not that, it's that the Enifmatic just doesn't sound full enough to be a Dumble.
So to me FM-9 sounds like it has more presence and airy-ness.
honestly, ALL THAT CAN BE FIXED WITH A REALLY GOOD PREAMP/BOOST.
WHICH I HAVE ;)
NOW I DONT GOT TO BE SUBJECT TO A MULTIEFFECTS PEDAL AND KEEP ALL MY KIDDOS
This is very intentional with how I like to set the ods ford. I engage the cut in the preamp and it gives a very glassy bounce to the notes. I couldn’t find a way to exactly replicate this with the UA. I’m guessing if I turned the cut off on the fm3 preset it work be even closer.
Well that wasn't a Dumble sound at all. Just another typical processed lead tone. Nothing to assume from this. I suspect we have here a video from big pedalboard makers trying to tell you that they can give you what you want. Then they show you what they have and you are supposed to like it! They are not producing anything like Dumble sounds.
Thanks for watching. Video is completely unsponsored, I bought and paid for all the pedals myself and have no affiliation with UA or Fractal. I always make it very clear when and promotion is involved in my videos. Believe it or not, just nerdy and passionate about this stuff!
The clue is also into the pun title. It's an ODS for Povvo's. The very first thing I say in the video is also, I don't know what a dumble sound is, and I probably never will. I just like whatever it is this kind of sound is.
Anyways thanks for the view! :)
@@DavidBeebee There's a TPS video of the guys and a couple of their buddies playing Robin Fords' Dumble. A lad called Jake plays a Les Paul through it at about 49 mins. into the video. For me, that is the sound right there. Have a listen. I think the video is called something like "He plays it, we play it"
@@fedup3449 I’ve seen the video you’re referring to, Jake’s an acquaintance, friend of a friend. Lovely lad, good player and has great tone taste.
@@DavidBeebee read! The tone he gets there is what I'm after. I just can't get it. I think The Dude or Simble might be the closest on a medium budget. What say you?
I think so many variables come into play when you're just looking at a pedal pedal, what platform is it on, what cab/mic. This is why in some ways looking at the self contained UA or a full modelling option eliminates some of that and makes for interesting comparisons, but I totally appreciate it's not what you're going for. Honestly I don't have enough experience with either the Dude or Simple to give an informed opinion, I hear very good things about the Dude though!
Who cares, they sound the same.