Switch Fanboy Praises Nintendo for Trying to Kill Emulation by Suing Yuzu
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Dear Harmon: Back in the day, Nintendo tried to sue Blockbuster for renting out video games, claiming it was 'the gray market'... Nintendo has been on the losing side of how to play your video games for years.
They actually tried to do that? Seriously? They really do just want a monopoly don’t they.
yep this is sony fuck them in there asses for a long time untill the wii sold more than the ps3 n xbox but it failed real hard loool
which is illegal, so regardless they lose.@@bloodmoon7018
Yet they won so in your face even though I only know about games like Mario
LMFAO. Do you know how many lawsuits they won? 😂😂😂😂😂
Nintendo nails the hard part of running a video game business, which is making great games, but they're so ass backwards when it comes to literally everything else.
Irony being most nearly all Nintendo games aren't developed by devs from Nintendo itself nowadays, it's sub companies owned by Nintendo
Lol, nintendo and their big @ss ego execs will never learn.
@@dreamsoffury8369 just like everyone else? do you think Sony or Microsoft make their own games and doesn't have sub companies? I'm not a Nintendo fan. I'm a PC gamer but your point is too dumb I had to comment.
@@ctgaming168 was more of a jab in regards to Nintendo fanboys claims that any game ON a Nintendo system was developed BY Nintendo exclusively, of course I know 3rd party games exist for all systems lol
@@dreamsoffury8369 well if they claimed so then it's ok. By the way, I love Nintendo games and used to have a Switch, not anymore cuz I got steam deck Oled and a gaming desktop. The consoles from Nintendo has been so weak and limited the games potential. All Nintendo games really shine on a powerful PC and steam deck. Sub 20fps on Nintendo consoles just doesn't work anymore.
Yuzu is open source. All someone has to do is fork the source code, rebrand, and boom--there's a new Switch emulator.
Pointless lawsuit is pointless.
Harman of course doesn't understand the Streisand effect and doesn't understand that emulation will keep happening
Real Fanboys prefer worshiping corporations rather than playing video games let alone consuming products.
Harman of course doesn't understand.
No specific topic necessary; he's universally incompetent.
@@CapnCoconuts and hopeless, useless, worthless, and worst of all, he doesn't even play the games, if I don't see his gameplay footage in the background or mention that he played the game on his off time. He's not a gamer just like any other Gaming Fanboy channel.
the streisand effect has nothing to do with this, and everyone who wants to do emulation already is. It's not something anyone is trying to keep hidden.
It’s all stupid anyways. Let’s say they succeeed. Okay… Yuzu is already out there. The community will just pick it up and keep rolling. You can’t sue the planet 😂
Who cares anyway let them sue me I have nothing for then to take and would just declare bankruptcy then they just wasted all this money suing me. I have nothing to lose 😂
It's funny because also in the lawsuit itself, Nintendo practically said that emulation is just hardware piracy.
If Nintendo was really worried about emulaton, they would just put the damn games on PC
As 50 once said, I've been patiently waiting. Waiting for Harman to be a total shill for a terrible company and cover this stupid lawsuit.
There's no end to this walking disease. I just straight up avoid all the releases coming out on Nintendo Switch in 2024.
There is little reason to these days.
Meanwhile, I just went and found a download for SNES9x... Nintendo has a weird system for trying to stop emulation if they haven't touched one of the oldest emulators I can remember, and I'm older than the internet.
it's because it's not about trying to "stop emulation" at all.
After i heard about this i went and got yuzu, then put a copy on my hard drive. Then i got the last 3 firmwares and keys. I also got 2 builds of cemu and dolphin and put backups on my hard drive
Dolphin isnt going anywhere
Nintendos already tried and failed to fuck with dolphin
19:25 its even more hilarious that if you go to Nintendo's own FAQ on their site, they are literally recommending pawn shops to get access to their old games (they dont even make money from those shops) ... shows so much on how they give a crap about their old games lmfao..
As a Nintendo fan, I love emulation, Nintendo makes some of the best games ever in every generation especially in the switch generation, but eventually Nintendo will shutdown the switch eshop in the future, and the switch cartridges are not indestructible, they will stop working eventually, with emulation none of these problems will matter and these games can exist forever.
Emulation is the future
Can't wait to see his reaction when it doesn't work !! 😂😂
The sad thing is that it is gonna work this time, because we are now in the age of "You will own nothing and be happy".
@@randysalsman6992 you don't know pc gamers 🗿
@@randysalsman6992even if it does work there will be others to use. They can never get rid of it and it’s useless to try. All they are doing is bringing more hatred their way.
It worked, Yuzu is shutting down
this doesnt aged well oof
They do know Yuzu itself doesn't provide the games and only open source software right?
Of course Harman praises this
Of course, I hate him.
He's a lost cause.
Also by the logic Nintendo uses here any third party game's publisher from a previous generation can sue Sony, Microsoft, and Nintendo for using in-house emulators on current gen consoles. The old game was never made with the intention of being played on current day consoles because they too are pieces of hardware that the game software was designed for.
Harman would high five miyamoto and tajiri as they double teamed his wife in front of him. I mean, provided there was a human willing to marry him for the tax break
Sorry, one last post: Dear Harmon: I can lean ever so slightly to my right and grab my Switch, which has, in the slot, New Horizons, which is the only game I play on Yuzu. And I only play it on Yuzu to cheat. Yuzu doesn't have an online component, I can't affect the wider environment of Animal Crossing Islands. And I haven't paid a single thin penny to Yuzu to do any of this. Yuzu is free!
I refuse to go to his videos; what’s Harman’s comment section like? I don’t want to give him even a single view.
And I wish his channel to fail.
Mostly people telling him he's crazier than a fish with titties
I guess he disabled comments already.
@@nosotrosloslobosestamosreg4115 just to demonstrate his cowardice. In full.
The same people who cry that piracy take sales away from publishers are the same people who have no problem buying used copies.
I don't understand this dude is seriously making a case for multi-billion dollar company to be shitty. Wild.
Welcome to the wonderful world of Harman Smith, an adult man with the mental aptitude of a 17 year old and absolutely deluded beyond belief.
"I didn't impact hardware sales! Uuuh!" Most people who pirate Switch games wouldn't be customers whether emulation does or doesn't exist. You know what _would_ turn them into paying customers?
buying the fucking games, I assume. If you like the game enough to play it but not buy it, that's your moral failing, not Nintendo's.
@@ViddyOJames Nintendo putting those games on PC would turn them into paying customers.
@@TheAbsol7448 lolno
@@ViddyOJames Literally how?
Herman probably thinks "Burning the disc" is super scary and illegal
Nintendo's lawsuit doesn't go directly for the emulator they have discord messages of the devs explaining how to dump ROMs which is Nintendo's angle. It's probably still not a great argument but they are taking a side swipe at them instead of directly suing for the emulator.
They're mad that people are dumping their own copies of games that they bought and therefore own?
If nintendo didn't release bad hardware, release pc versions of their games, and locked older games to older platforms the demand for emulation would go down. If I want to play a game like wind waker, I can't play it on switch so I would either have to emulate it on dolphin/cemu or try to find a gamecube/wii/wii u that are not being sold anymore to play the game.
Maybe I can provide some clarity as someone who’s spent years working with emulation.
Emulation in general is very much legal and protected for archival and homebrew purposes and generally speaking, running backups of your own games is legal.
The problem here is that the steps you have to take in order to even run your own Switch games requires you to break copy-protections to copy over the system files from your Switch and game files.
The problem for Nintendo is, Yuzu does most* everything by the books. They aren’t running Nintendo code in their emulator and they don’t provide keys to even use the emulator.
Where Yuzu messed up was on their website where they provide instructions for using a program called LockPick to break into your console and copy over the necessary prod/title keys.
I don't know, I feel like using LockPick to crack open the protection and obtaining the keys from a device you physically own should be fine.
Like, the data is stored on a chip I physically own that Nintendo sold to me... I would like to think that makes it fine to copy for personal use, just like how it's fine to transcribe a book for personal use.
@@trunguss It should be but unfortunately it’s not because the process of copying your games as backups requires breaking copy protection of your console.
@@brandonkruse6412 Tch, yeah, I think you're right.
Really unfortunate that I can't break into the lock box I bought and own though..
@@trunguss It’s one of the many reasons that makes Nintendo anti-consumer. There are many benefits to rooting your Switch that have nothing to do with piracy.
Running game mods and making manual backups of your games. Years ago I had a BoTW save file with a ton of hours into it and my wife accidentally overwrote it with her new game b/c she didn’t know you could only have one save file per account lol.
I personally think Nintendo is wasting their time going after piracy anyway. The % of people that buy their games vs. pirate is probably 1,000 to 1.
I supported the Yuzu project early on and the first few years of the emulator, you needed a very strong PC to run games and many still today don’t even work.
Enjoyed watching this while playing Mario wonder on my Steam deck lol
Personally, I'm not worried of any outcome of this situation, cause even if Nintendo wins this, they technically won't, cause anything, especially open-source stuff, are on the internet once, it remains here forever, they're basically doing a fight they Cannot win.
🤣 Nintendo is stupid, yuzu will live on. They won't win this shit haha
yea and no, they cant win these, but they might scare yuzu dev enough so they might stop working on it.
if they do 3 more emulators will appear in its place, nintendo will never win@@juliox9
Ironic that Nintendo is so against emulation when they themselves use emulation for older games on their plastic box.
Also trying to kill emulation is like trying to stop piracy, they can "plug" one hole but as one sensible person put it "Its like trying to stop Niagra falls with a tea cup".
Oh boi. Can't wait for Harmen to show how he knows the law better than literally everyone else when he is so frustratingly clueless
That pew pew analogy isn't going to work on room temperature IQ people that would blame the "pew pew" regardless of the lack of logic in doing so.
Is this some sort of american joke that I'm too European to understand?
@@TheUnknownDoc You're half right.
Its an American thing but sadly not a joke.
I'd argue the pew pew analogy doesn't work because it's substantially more complicated than the issue of emulation and I say that as some one who is pro pew pew.
@@TheUnknownDoc In the US there are valid reasons to own pew pews such as for hunting and self defense. It is silly to blame a tool for improper use of the tool, though that doesn't stop some from arguing for a state monopoly on the use of pew pews.
And then some of them dare to complain about how certain state officials abuse their authority in ways that may or may not involve pew pews. Room temperature IQ in Celsius.
@@cassthenerd6023 It really isn't though.
You don't blame the pew pew for any unlawful actions of the user just like you don't blame emulators for pirating.
And going after emulators accomplishes absolutely nothing just like banning pew pew's doesn't 🤷♂️
My biggest gripe is nintendo going after games they haven't sold for 20+ years. Like yeah, maybe someone pirated the original mario, but it's not like nintendo would have made any money from someone buying it off ebay for $100+.
Saw someone saying this would be like suing a CD player because it can play pirated CDs and I couldn't agree more
I bought two switches. I'm donating one of my purchases to you (just the purchase, not the switch). So there, now you "own" a switch
How much you wanna bet the Switch 2 uses the exact same os and encryption so Yuzu would probably run them perfectly lol
Once again, Harman being completely *wrong* about everything per usual. I just really want to know is.. is it an act at this point? Because being this factually wrong and off base has to be a bit, right? Jesus christ.
Emulation is one of the few tried and true methods of game preservation. When it comes to emulation, a lot of the time it boils down to:
1) Said game being out of 'print'
2) Insanely priced
3) Region/Console locked
4) Outright banned in your country
5) Beyond obscure; circle back to problem 1 and 2
6) Any combination of the above.
And Nintendo is no better, with yet another lawsuit that doesn't hold much weight legally. The only thing that they have is money-- that's it. For a company that crafts some pretty fun games, they really are bitter old bastards that don't want anyone else having fun. Well, unless it's on one of their own consoles.
Since Emulators themselves are not illegal, there will always be an alternative to use, no matter what happens in this case.
Few things are funnier than a failed smut writer pretending he understands law better than the whole Supreme Court.
Perhaps the reason why Nintendo is going after emulation now is because of the Nintendo online service they offer where for a price, you can stream old Nintendo games to your switch.
Or maybe in Japan, they finally got the news that someone modded Shrek into BOTW
My only point with this is that, if you're a kid or a student that doesn't have the luxury to spend money on video games, pirate all you want. But it looks incredibly pathetic when people that have proper income wants to pirate games but has 6 different pair of shoes as a man. No man needs more than 3 pairs, and 2 pairs DEFINITELY do if you're not the suit and tie kind of guy. You still go out of your way to buy shoes you like, or watches that don't even serve any purpose because you now can know the time just by looking at your phone at any given time. And you wouldn't steal a pair of shoes or a watch. But you'd steal games? Piracy is for people that can't afford it. It's for people who aren't living in the privileged world of Central/Western Europe or USA. Yeah it's not literally stealing something from someone physically. But just because that's not the case, it doesn't mean you're not stealing anything. If you can easily afford it but choose not to, it's 100% stealing.
There's nothing wrong with retro console emulation though, because some of those games, people that made them don't even exist in the industry anymore. And the games themselves go for ridiculous prices so you're being ripped off for a game very few people want to play but because it's rare. And no developer or publisher is even making money off of those cartridges being sold by scummy people that sell for 10 times more than they got the game. And Nintendo realized that way too late and is trying to charge people money for games that they've already been playing for ages again.
I personally only hacked my PS Vita because Sony stopped supporting it, not only that, they just pulled several ps plus games from it due to not bothering to renew licenses for a dead console. In that case I feel no shame in hacking it. If Sony isn't gonna be providing me what I paid for, I'll just take it.
I'm a kid, and I have a moral code. "I shall not pirate games still being sold"
@@AutumnLeaf06 I'm not too old, I m just 32 but that's also a thing. You don't actually NEED to. I used to have a bicycle when I was a kid and we'd ride around the block all the time, play ball, play actually physical games. Kids don't need investment to play games. Of course I did have an 8 bit console too, but those games were usually hard and short. So you just had to go play something else too.
They fucked up by providing a guide on how to get encryption keys on their site ;/
Making legal emulation impossible will make illegal emulation inevitable.
Isn't it ironic that this guy, who claims to be a writer, can't even look up a simple Wikipedia article or write a script for a video?
It's like suing VLC media player
Expecting Harmon to not defend Nintendo when Nintendo does....anything controversial is like expecting a bucket full of holes to hold water
I came across a video that said 'broke' people are mad about Yuzu even though you need much more expensive PC than the switch to run the emulator in the first place th-cam.com/video/J0i0zOyOM_E/w-d-xo.html
Harmen is as enjoyable as a bowl of cold chicken noodle soup.
Has this dude gain some weight?
Let's entertain for a minute that emulators/Yuzu actually was "illegal" it's like ok and...? Why exactly should I care? Is the FBI going to break down my door for playing a 25 year old Pokemon game in an "unauthorized" way?
No, this falls into the CIAs area of operation. They will kick your door in.
@@i3lackfusionisn’t that illegal to do that? Everyone is pirating games because of greedy companies like Blizzard is all set they have the money same with Xbox and other companies, am I defending piracy? Kinda Sony and Nintendo makes things expensive.
10:47 i think the correct term for a game like that is abandonware, where the only 2ways to get it is through piracy oralready-bought copies (where the publishers dont have any kind of profit)
If Nintendo sold a program to emulate their old consoles, and sold ROMs (without stupid DRM or monthly subscriptions) for those emulators, I would buy them. They do not.
I think a big part of the strategy will be cross-gen games with switch and switch 2 for at least a few a couple years. Meaning people will be able to play with our essentially switched to games and possibly get better performance on their PCs
Oh man, I die laughing I think it was the paw pawer
I bought bleem when It came out I remember sony sued because they said they were using there code but I don't think they was.
Harman smith reactions are my favorite, I appreciate the sacrifice of brain cells for this one
I love emulators!
Of course not shocked just like wait he'll shill for their paid and worse paid ROM's to not the better and legal route!? *WHAT IS HE SMOKING!?* god i can't wait to hopefully yuzu win's and he goes off the rains and we all can laugh as with mod botw and point at the simp to a Japanese company!
"if someone pew pew you" is a quote
I absolutely despise Fanboys
Nintendo deserves to have games pirated the amount of great games you cannot buy now is shocking. They give most people no choice.
Can you do a coffee teir list?
Nintendo doesn't like the idea that you can bypass their hardware entirely and play on PC with better specs. PC gamers genuinely buy Switch games when they don't own a Switch and Nintendo can't wrap their head around that. They make most of their profit on hardware sales. Seems like they just want to lock in customers.
I was waiting for his response. 😂
Nintendo's last 3 systems have been emulated within their lifespans and it really feels like Nintendo is suing yuzu now so that the same wont happen for the switch 2
if he hired me to edit, he would have a huge channel
This could end up being a good thing in the end because it might just strengthen the laws surrounding emulation even more once the dust settles.
Also pirating Nintendo's content is the only morally correct way to play their games.
Kill emulation? That’s quite hyperbolic. This is about a specific case and while I don’t like it one can’t really hold it against Nintendo that they are doing it.
Nintendo could sell ROMs/ISOs that have cryptographic locks that have keys assigned to an individual and cannot be transferred/traded/resold
I knew this ws coming
Harman being Harman again.
Not surprised.
Sometimes it's hard to enjoy anything when crap like this happens so often these days.
At this point, I think he purposefully refuses to edit, just to annoy us.
i Don't get why is piracy is bad thing at all especially with game that they don't sell anymore. Here the deal.
Let say i have legit nintendo game i have. And i give it to my friend because he don't have that. Is that count as piracy? No?
Then what is make different if i share my game with others on the internet?
So the thing nintendo might win on is cus Yuzu gets around their security to play the emulation. So its not illegal to emulate the game but they might get it under it being illegal to circumvent their security. I believe its something similar to what dkoldies did; they put those void warranty stickers on which is not illegal to put on a product but is illegal to enforce the voiding of the warranty. Personally i side with Yuzu because i dont think you should be able to make an action to do something legally(emulate) unable to be done without breaking the law (circumventing their security)
Harman has to be a character, right?
If they are allowing pirated content on their emulator that could present a problem, because they'd essentially be supporting an illegal activity. If they are taking "donations" for their emulator, voluntary or not, that's illegal because they're making a profit off copyrighted material.
You can’t sue the emulators. You need to go to the route cause of the problem.
Guess we gotta ban DVD players because some people use bootleg DVDs.
edit: I commented this before you said the exact same thing lol
They can sue a kid name Mario at gunpoint, and these troglodytes will suck off Nintendo like its the last day on earth
Also imagine defending a company who has a vendetta on their fans by existing alone, if Nintendo could just
- Remastered the classic games
- Sell them for dirt cheap
- or if they not gonna do it, let emulators be
These would be fine, 3 options, 0 used, and they have the hubris to wonder why people go to emulators or piracy
It appears that Harmon Smith's fondness for his own voice outweighs his grasp of legal matters. He blindly defends a corporation that couldn't care less about him, as evidenced by Sony's failed attempts to eradicate emulation. Emulation doesn't yield profits, so what's the fuss?
Sure, downloading ROMs may raise eyebrows, but with sites dwindling and the need to own the game for ripping, the landscape has changed. As for Harmon Smith, his grating voice and lack of understanding are hard to endure. Frankly, I'm perplexed as to why anyone would subject themselves to his diatribes.
Nevertheless, I find solace in watching you systematically dismantle his arguments, even if it means repeating yourself. Your diligence in debunking his flawed logic keeps me engaged, and for that, I continue to tune in. Keep up the good work!
The way people like Harman act like this does THEM some kind of favor...
doofus canoe? hahahaha stealing this!!
The fact everyone has pew pews, and it's relatively easy to buy them, makes it more likely for you to get pew pewed...
I own a Switch and TotK, but played it on Yuzu instead for 60fps and so I could play with a different controller, because Nintendo's controllers are infamous for breaking too easily, and even when they work, they make my hands hurt. If Nintendo wins their case (and honestly probably regardless just out of spite), I'll just end up never buying (and therefore playing) Nintendo games in the future. Their games simply aren't worth the hand pain
From my understanding, installing and running a ROM through an emulator in itself is not illegal, but uploading it to various sites and distributing copyrighted content is where you can get into some real trouble. I could be wrong, but that’s how I think it works.
just as predicted from these fellas
Like another commenter on another video said, an absolutely huge chunk of the TotK piracy _wasn't_ done on emulators. It was done on hacked consoles, but both Nintendo and fanboys alike don't want to acknowledge that part of piracy. TotK was actually pirated _more_ on console because yuzu and Ryujinx _could not_ optimize around it until it actually officially launched.
Yeah, TotK ran like arse on Yuzu.
They want legal precedent that emulation is illegal so they have a monopoly over their old software so you can either go through third party resellers or them. They want to make their games scarce. Piracy is a service problem. Most people want to buy older games legally but companies like Nintendo don’t want to release older software. There are obscure Nintendo games like wario world that are around $100 a copy and Nintendo doesn’t want to release it.
Are the games available for purchase on PC? No? Then it's not a lost sale.
I remember when Sony tried to make an example of bleem
Emulation is legal unless you are using a peer to peer connection and seeding the games to other people circumventing an ISP. Or redistributing games for profit. As far as rom sites and emulators go. Those don't fall in line with illegality. How do I know this, experience, I have done all those things except redistribute for profit. Which is why I am not in jail. Harmon is a doofus.
I mean, could we just wait for the switch to die. As it stands, game preservation isn't exactly needed for an alive console😑
Honestly I've heard good arguments on both sides of this one. There is a clause in the DMCA that prevents DRM circumvention that might be the thing that brings down Yuzu. It's not as open and shut as people think.
One thing i can say for certain though is that even in the worst case scenario where emulation becomes "illegal", nothing is really going to change. People will just start making and working on these projects anonymously/underground. Or, development will just move over to countries that don't care about western IP laws. Not to mention, all these emulators are all already out in the wild.
I genuinely hope yuzu wins not only to tell nintendo they can never rid of the emulators and also so 5his guy cries himself to sleep every night
If Nintendo was Smart they would sell The rights of Emulation to certian Emulators it would preserve games better and everyone wins sure it would then make it more expensive but it could help skirt a lot of piracy
The irony of Harman to praise old Nintendo games as being “some of the best games ever made” but then immediately celebrate when the only preservation of the past might be taken down is so backwards and alien… he’s seriously not even human. This dude who praises N64 and Gamecube games probably never owned either system and grew up during basic baby Wii era
It's not a dig at you Joe btw, but in that reference where you said "you don't burn gamecube games into my computer", you used the wrong terminology. Burning is specifically printing the digital data of the piece of media into a physical form. The term burning came about because the drives that are capable of putting the media on discs literally use their laser to burn a long series of indentions into the disc which is interoperated as binary code. You're looking for the term "rip" which is the term for taking data off of a physical copy and storing it digitally. It's rarely used outside of the piracy scene because companies put safeguards in place to keep people with low to general tech knowledge from taking data to redistribute else where.
To be fair!
If your pc uses an hdd, the act of ripping software is stull burning it onto the platter of an hdd
The hopeful side of me this is Nintendo finally learning that PC ports are easy money
But I've been burned before....