Same here. I was using prolaces for a while but they felt like skate prisons 😂. The 4” slack with skate lace on Bauer and True pads worked great for me.
I just like the standard laces because I get a better push off the post. I also don't have any ankle pain so no problems there. Only thing I miss is how easy the Bungies are to put on. Takes like 2 seconds to put on vs laces
This series has been one of your best Matt. I had already experimented and figured out a lot of this stuff but learned some new things too. This series will definitely accelerate your learning curve. Appreciate your work. Thanks.
After picking up the position about 4 months ago, I finally took 4 hours one afternoon on my synthetic ice to dial in exactly what felt good with my pads. I had been running skate laces with lots of slack on the recommendation of my goalie coach, which uelped with ankle pain, but as a consequence I had to strap my pads tight to keep my knee square on the block - otherwise they would slip down. This wasn't great for butterfly mobility and flare. I finally settled on the Pro laces, which ended up being perfectly sized for my Warrior RGT/2 pads. They keep my knees on the block while still flexing in and out of RVH, and most importantly, allow me to keep my calf and knee strap relatively loose, which has helped mobility tremendously. I'm sure part of this is due to better conditioning, but I also have far less hip, knee, and ankle pain. Another bonus, they take like 10% of the time to put on as laces.
Very informative Matt. I use the PGS toe ties and have also added the PGStoe tie retainers which keep the toe ties from sliding down on my True skates.
Appreciate the coreshorts discount. I ordered a pair since I tweaked my groin a bit last week and I've only heard good things about them. Going to use them once I'm ready to hit the ice again.
This is such a great video! I agree about the Pro Laces not being adjustable. It's one of the few brands I haven't tried because I have tiny skates and I know they will be too big and I won't be able to adjust them. It's too bad because I hear they make an excellent product. I use Kenesky toe ties and they're amazing! I can see now why I don't feel like I have 100% control and comfort. I don't have a lead going from the toe bridge to the bungee part of the skate lace. I feel like an idiot. Now I'm off to remedy that situation. Thanks so much for this video. I really appreciate your time and effort.
@HockeyReviews of the Warrior Rx4 chest protector. Sorry, I'm not sure how my comment posted to this video 🤔. It might be because I've watched it about 10 times lol.
It doesn't really matter and is totally personal preference, you can go longer if you want your pad to ride up your leg more. Or you can go shorter if you use elastic toe ties since the elastic stretches and will create more room naturally. Social media accounts constantly fixate on things and push their ideas (see 580 lore) instead of realizing people have preferences and there can be multiple solutions. People shouldn't focus on a specific length
Generally a looser toe tie helps the pad rotate while going down, but won't rotate back when you come up. So too loose of a toe tie is probably the opposite of the issue you are having now.
I've used skate laces and bungies, two different sets of pads (current bauer VaporX5) and my right pad rotates half the time. I go through the front and middle of my skates. I'm new to goal tending.
I use Pro laces Trav long units & go thru back holder & then up over skate laces - Do you have tight toe ties or so called snug on top of skate laces? i find as I weave the bungees from toe bridge to skate toe thru blade holder the gap at the toe bridge decreases as tension applied, thus the initial 2 inch length at toe bridge is reduced to less than an inch. I am a little paranoid about going snug as I don't want to have velcro slip during playI reviewed your comments but still have to ask. i used Lundy loop but found ankles & knees were very sore afterward, as no soreness just weaving thru skate blade holder
Tight toe ties can cause the pad to "under rotate" when dropping because the toe of the pad is forced down towards the ice like where your skate toe is going. But usually, when standing back up tight toe ties will keep the pad properly on the skate "rotated" in the correct way.
i have the extra long ones from halo hockey,( i couldn't justify double the cost for prolace) and i put a knot in the bungee to give it slack up front instead of adding the skate lace. i love it so far. i've been playing around with length and placement but its a huge step forward from skate lace and the bauer toe ties that these current pads came with. what is that piece of "padded" carbon fiber on your true skates for?
They are "Skate protectors" that help stop the post wear and cracking of carbon skates. They aren't really carbon fibre and just have the look of them. instagram.com/p/C33wQEmAcQr/
So, that can be caused by 3 things. 1 is toe ties being too tight, 2 is strapping too tight, 3 is your toe drives straight down into the ice and you have to adjust your movements. If the pads are strapped the same way, and it is only happening on one leg, chances are it is happening because of your technique and the way your feet are pointed when you drop down.
Could it be an issue with the toe ties? When they’re new, this doesn’t happen. When they get older it starts happening more frequently. If so, which ones do I switch to? I’m using the stock Brian’s ones that come with the pads at the moment. I have already replaced them once, and it was better. Now a season in, it’s happening again…
Are you REALLY tightening your toe ties so they are in a state of constant tension? They shouldn't really be under tension when just sitting on your skate. If they are, then it could cause issues and they could become too stretched to work properly. I have switched to Kenesky, PGS, and Kova for a few sets of pads. For the Kenesky and PGS I also add the toe slack method with skate lace that I talk about in these videos. Toe ties shouldn't really wear out much unless they are getting cut.
What would be your recommendation for roller skates? I have the bungee that comes stock with the CCM Eflex 6.5. It keeps catching the front wheel. I tried skate laces, which didn't work either. The😅y also got caught in the wheels (I have True skates). Great video btw.
I know this is late, but my advice, without buying anything, would be to replace your skate while skipping the bottom set of eyelets. You can throw your toe ties through those eyelets. If you don't mind buying, order a set of tour predator 9 frames that come with the front fender piece. Keeps any toe tie solution from hitting the wheel. Or get warrior pads with the elastic toe and boot straps.
My son has Warrior 26 + 1s, and I’m trying to create the best option for the RVH post seal and the ability to push off the post without losing energy from a bungee system. What are your thoughts about connecting laces with the gap to Warrior pads?
I think people are focusing far too much on influencer posts talking about skate lace vs bungee systems rather than just using something that is working with them. Bungee stretch, but only to a point, which depending on how much skate lace slack you have might be overall less distance than the skate lace with slack. I've never had issues with Warrior's stock toe tie setup with post integration. The only real advantage of going with massive slack is the pad will basically fall off of the foot forward so when sliding into posts there is a bunch of the inside boot exposed to hit the post. This effect can be achieved if the goalie tucks their toes away from the pad anyways when sliding into the post and the slack can cause other issues with the pad like dragging the boot on the ice and the knee landing differently on the block.
I just cannot get on board with these new BAUER KONEKT skates. They look like rental skates. I really hope this doesn't become the norm. Thank you for the very informational video!
I've been using them for about a year now and can say they function incredibly well (even the errant shots that hit my toes have hurt less than my more traditionally built skates). At some point it doesn't really matter how they look, everything is a plastic anyway.
If they were cheaper id have them!! I love the idea of a consistent tightness everytime i skate. I feel like sometimes i do too tight/too loose and its such a pita to try and get it perfect. They aren't the most aesthetically pleasing skates... but they're covered by your pads anyway!
Basically the exact opposite of what this is saying... Pro Laces have no adjustability so you are more or less stuck with what you have and can't dial anything in.
Skate laces with about 4" of slack work best for me. Took away my ankle pain. Very informative video!
Same here. I was using prolaces for a while but they felt like skate prisons 😂. The 4” slack with skate lace on Bauer and True pads worked great for me.
I just like the standard laces because I get a better push off the post. I also don't have any ankle pain so no problems there. Only thing I miss is how easy the Bungies are to put on. Takes like 2 seconds to put on vs laces
why don't you use the velcros with your laces?
This series has been one of your best Matt. I had already experimented and figured out a lot of this stuff but learned some new things too. This series will definitely accelerate your learning curve. Appreciate your work. Thanks.
After picking up the position about 4 months ago, I finally took 4 hours one afternoon on my synthetic ice to dial in exactly what felt good with my pads. I had been running skate laces with lots of slack on the recommendation of my goalie coach, which uelped with ankle pain, but as a consequence I had to strap my pads tight to keep my knee square on the block - otherwise they would slip down. This wasn't great for butterfly mobility and flare.
I finally settled on the Pro laces, which ended up being perfectly sized for my Warrior RGT/2 pads. They keep my knees on the block while still flexing in and out of RVH, and most importantly, allow me to keep my calf and knee strap relatively loose, which has helped mobility tremendously. I'm sure part of this is due to better conditioning, but I also have far less hip, knee, and ankle pain. Another bonus, they take like 10% of the time to put on as laces.
Very informative Matt. I use the PGS toe ties and have also added the PGStoe tie retainers which keep the toe ties from sliding down on my True skates.
Appreciate the coreshorts discount. I ordered a pair since I tweaked my groin a bit last week and I've only heard good things about them. Going to use them once I'm ready to hit the ice again.
This is such a great video! I agree about the Pro Laces not being adjustable. It's one of the few brands I haven't tried because I have tiny skates and I know they will be too big and I won't be able to adjust them. It's too bad because I hear they make an excellent product. I use Kenesky toe ties and they're amazing! I can see now why I don't feel like I have 100% control and comfort. I don't have a lead going from the toe bridge to the bungee part of the skate lace. I feel like an idiot. Now I'm off to remedy that situation. Thanks so much for this video. I really appreciate your time and effort.
Love this! Very helpful content.
Any idea when the full review is coming out?
Full review of what?
@HockeyReviews of the Warrior Rx4 chest protector. Sorry, I'm not sure how my comment posted to this video 🤔. It might be because I've watched it about 10 times lol.
I've heard for the slack you want around 1/3 of the circumference of the post
It doesn't really matter and is totally personal preference, you can go longer if you want your pad to ride up your leg more. Or you can go shorter if you use elastic toe ties since the elastic stretches and will create more room naturally.
Social media accounts constantly fixate on things and push their ideas (see 580 lore) instead of realizing people have preferences and there can be multiple solutions.
People shouldn't focus on a specific length
Interesting…. Thank you so much for your reply… Could the toe ties be too loose? Wondering…
Generally a looser toe tie helps the pad rotate while going down, but won't rotate back when you come up. So too loose of a toe tie is probably the opposite of the issue you are having now.
Thank you so much for your replies! Such great info… I’ll keep trying to work it out! Thanks again! Appreciate you!!
I've used skate laces and bungies, two different sets of pads (current bauer VaporX5) and my right pad rotates half the time. I go through the front and middle of my skates. I'm new to goal tending.
Probably have to loosen the other straps as well. If your calf or knee straps are too tight it can hinder rotation as well.
I use Pro laces Trav long units & go thru back holder & then up over skate laces - Do you have tight toe ties or so called snug on top of skate laces?
i find as I weave the bungees from toe bridge to skate toe thru blade holder the gap at the toe bridge decreases as tension applied, thus the initial 2 inch length at toe bridge is reduced to less than an inch. I am a little paranoid about going snug as I don't want to have velcro slip during playI reviewed your comments but still have to ask. i used Lundy loop but found ankles & knees were very sore afterward, as no soreness just weaving thru skate blade holder
if the toes ties are too tight, will it make the pads tough to rotate back?
Tight toe ties can cause the pad to "under rotate" when dropping because the toe of the pad is forced down towards the ice like where your skate toe is going. But usually, when standing back up tight toe ties will keep the pad properly on the skate "rotated" in the correct way.
i have the extra long ones from halo hockey,( i couldn't justify double the cost for prolace) and i put a knot in the bungee to give it slack up front instead of adding the skate lace. i love it so far. i've been playing around with length and placement but its a huge step forward from skate lace and the bauer toe ties that these current pads came with. what is that piece of "padded" carbon fiber on your true skates for?
They are "Skate protectors" that help stop the post wear and cracking of carbon skates. They aren't really carbon fibre and just have the look of them.
instagram.com/p/C33wQEmAcQr/
what is on the outside of your skate?
They are "Skate protectors" that help stop the post wear and cracking of carbon skates.
instagram.com/p/C33wQEmAcQr/
Question: My right pad will often not rotate when I drop in my butterfly. It’ll simply go flat on its face. Any thoughts as to why this happens?
So, that can be caused by 3 things. 1 is toe ties being too tight, 2 is strapping too tight, 3 is your toe drives straight down into the ice and you have to adjust your movements.
If the pads are strapped the same way, and it is only happening on one leg, chances are it is happening because of your technique and the way your feet are pointed when you drop down.
Could it be an issue with the toe ties? When they’re new, this doesn’t happen. When they get older it starts happening more frequently. If so, which ones do I switch to? I’m using the stock Brian’s ones that come with the pads at the moment. I have already replaced them once, and it was better. Now a season in, it’s happening again…
Are you REALLY tightening your toe ties so they are in a state of constant tension? They shouldn't really be under tension when just sitting on your skate.
If they are, then it could cause issues and they could become too stretched to work properly.
I have switched to Kenesky, PGS, and Kova for a few sets of pads. For the Kenesky and PGS I also add the toe slack method with skate lace that I talk about in these videos. Toe ties shouldn't really wear out much unless they are getting cut.
What would be your recommendation for roller skates? I have the bungee that comes stock with the CCM Eflex 6.5. It keeps catching the front wheel. I tried skate laces, which didn't work either. The😅y also got caught in the wheels (I have True skates). Great video btw.
Unfortunately I don't play roller so I can't make a recommendation for that :(
I know this is late, but my advice, without buying anything, would be to replace your skate while skipping the bottom set of eyelets. You can throw your toe ties through those eyelets. If you don't mind buying, order a set of tour predator 9 frames that come with the front fender piece. Keeps any toe tie solution from hitting the wheel. Or get warrior pads with the elastic toe and boot straps.
TLDR: relace skates minus bottom eyelets. Or buy Tour Hockey predator 9 frames
My son got the bungee strap with the hook on his warrior pads. what are you thinking about this system? He like it because it's easy and quick,
I use that system on my G6 and enjoy it, I had to adjust it to the "loosest" setting but it works well!
My son has Warrior 26 + 1s, and I’m trying to create the best option for the RVH post seal and the ability to push off the post without losing energy from a bungee system.
What are your thoughts about connecting laces with the gap to Warrior pads?
I think people are focusing far too much on influencer posts talking about skate lace vs bungee systems rather than just using something that is working with them. Bungee stretch, but only to a point, which depending on how much skate lace slack you have might be overall less distance than the skate lace with slack.
I've never had issues with Warrior's stock toe tie setup with post integration. The only real advantage of going with massive slack is the pad will basically fall off of the foot forward so when sliding into posts there is a bunch of the inside boot exposed to hit the post. This effect can be achieved if the goalie tucks their toes away from the pad anyways when sliding into the post and the slack can cause other issues with the pad like dragging the boot on the ice and the knee landing differently on the block.
goaltender life is all about the hacks ))
I just cannot get on board with these new BAUER KONEKT skates. They look like rental skates. I really hope this doesn't become the norm. Thank you for the very informational video!
I've been using them for about a year now and can say they function incredibly well (even the errant shots that hit my toes have hurt less than my more traditionally built skates). At some point it doesn't really matter how they look, everything is a plastic anyway.
If they were cheaper id have them!! I love the idea of a consistent tightness everytime i skate. I feel like sometimes i do too tight/too loose and its such a pita to try and get it perfect. They aren't the most aesthetically pleasing skates... but they're covered by your pads anyway!
TLDW: Buy Prolaces 😅🤣
Basically the exact opposite of what this is saying... Pro Laces have no adjustability so you are more or less stuck with what you have and can't dial anything in.
Ha, it was a joke. Personally, I am a fan of the prolaces but I know they aren't the fix all problem.