Ryzen 3 3300X was basically a reject of 3600X and 3800X, while Ryzen 3 3100 was a reject of 3600 and 3700X. As said in the video, Zen 2 architecture was more successful during silicon lottery, so there were not that many 3300x to begin with . And due to silicon shortage, it did not pay off for AMD to make these cheaper processors on purpose . And currently Zen 2 architecture is slowly winding down, so do not expect to see much 3300xs anyway (or even 3100s) . Best bet is to save some money for 3600 and have a proper 6 core 12 thread processor .
Since launch I've only ever seen it in stock once, and even then stock was like 3 units. One of my friends bought it for like 150 euros, turned out to be one of the best possible purchases in recent years.
@nunya Lol, I've never looked in to getting one. But hundreds available on Ebay, doesn't sound all that rare :) Maybe he's talking about finding one brand new? Wait isnt it years old now? Hmm
2:32 you are correct. the 3300 and 3100 are indeed defective ryzen chips that doesn't meet the required core count for 3600 and above products. as the manufacturing process matures - less and less defective chips are produced hence why these ryzen 3 vanished like a fart in the wind which is a real shame because they are really competitive chips for their original MSRP. TLDR; the 3300 and 3100 are not purposely built cpu's. but rather a byproduct of defective chips during the (at the time new) manufacturing process. it was a godsend back then the "no chip left behind" mantra.
On top of that the defective CPU had to have a very specific configuration of good cores to be a 3300X and not a 3100 (All four good cores on the same core cluster, or CCX).
With AMD moving to an 8 core CCX with the current 5000 cpus it makes sense that the 5100, 5200, and 5300 variants are quite rare as losing that many cores to defects on a CCX likely means other parts of it are dead too.
It's also why you can sometimes get disabled cores or cache to work, but it's a bit of a mess and it's usually instable Sometimes a chip has 5 working cores, and the cache is functional for a 6 core model, but one core is just not really up to the task so they bring it down to the next lower spec by disabling portions.
I got a Ryzen 3 3100 from Dec 2020. Now I'm not sure if its just silicon lottery or if it's due to the more mature process like you said, but I'm able to do a 4.3 GHz overclock at just 1.243v. Essentially an i7-7700K for $100.
The 3300X was a demonstration of what a single CCX chip would bring to the table, AMD was hinting at the upgrade that the ZEN3 chips would bring with their 8 core single CCX design even using just 4 cores in a ZEN2 architecture.
This and the 1600AF at launch prices were unbeatable. At the time I built a PC for my nephew with the 1600AF at $85, it was almost a steal for the performance. Oh, and a week later I got myself a 2200G for my HTPC for a mere $80, another steal. Good times, but I wish I udapted my GPU back then...
In older times they have disabled better parts to fill supply contracts. I'm pretty sure nowadays those contracts are written so that "at least" a certain part is supplied, rather than wasting high quality parts and better thermal management and customisable TDP have helped.
@METhOdhowtoKilLnoObS and 5800x are the 5900x that failed the requirements, hence why 5800x runs a bit hotter but are great for oc since they are quite high ends chips. 5600x are not 5800xs tho, its a bit different process for those.
CCL had these with motherboard bundles on their eBay shop, I actually bought a 3300x bundle a few months ago to build a budget system for someone. Seems they only have them bundled with A320s now to shift the stock I would guess. but I got it with B450 and 16Gb of 3200mhz Ram.
Do you ever plan on reviewing the Intel 10100F? I was planning a budget PC build for my niece and the 10100F with RX550 seemed like a great entry level combo (she eventually bought a friend's PC); it' was slightly quicker than the price-equivalent AMD at the time, Ryzen 3100 or something like that.
I have the i5-9600KF with RX590 FATBOY. No overclocking setting changes or anything. I get consistent 60fp in any 1080p game I've played. Great affordable combo. Worked really well with i3-9100f as well
With the availability of used 2600, 3600, etc being around $120-150, there's hardly much reason to get a 3300x at this point really. Can even find used 1600af for $80-$110 pretty often
AMD should really start focusing on APU production, especially RDNA-based APUs because from watching the price trends of their current 5000 series CPUs with the frequent discounts on them from retailers, they're more accessible and easy to buy than their GPUs. They would earn more this way instead of expecting people to buy overpriced GPUs.
I can only agree with you, a 4 core / 8 thread CPU is more than enough for todays games. I picked up an Intel Xeon E3-1231 v3 (comparable to a Core i7-4790) for 55€ and coming from an i5-4460 it does make a huge difference!
@@BlackJesus8463 I got an arctic esports duo & some good noctua paste. It's under control running at max all the time, it's just a bit of a hot boi by nature.
My friend was telling me about a program that automatically finds stable undervolts for ryzen. Might be worth looking into. Also just a better cooler. The stock one is kinda whimpy. Not intel whimpy, but still. Cooler master hyper 212 is working well for me (5600x).
I recently put together a lower cost amd system, and i wanted a 3300x However i found they were only about 10$ CAD cheaper than the 3600 new. And on the used market they were actually more expensive than the 3600. So i felt i was kind of pushed in the direction of buying the 3600 because the pricing just didnt really make sense. I have seen some benchmarks from HUB where the 3300x scored higher than the 3600 because of the higher single core performance. But the 6/12 cpu will most likely have more longevity.
I had a 3300X pre-ordered from B&H for my wife's PC at least a month before release (wanted to upgrade her from an i5-6500 machine). Release day came and went, about two more months went by, and B&H would periodically email me to say they still didn't have any stock. I eventually gave up, canceled the pre-order, and used a secondhand 2600 for her system.
You've done your research very well because that what actually happened last year when im looking to upgrade an younger sibling's PC. Settled on a used R5 2600 in the end.
3300x has been back in stock at my local micro center at $120... Already had a 3700x since 2019 though so havent actually picked it up Maybe everybody quit pc gaming so its available
I purchased one when they launched and built my nephew a gaming computer which he is still rocking to this day. A few weeks ago they came up on Newegg and B&H and I picked one up at reasonable cost installing it on a very cost effective B450 Steel Legend which is waiting to go into a case now. I run a 3600 myself but I believe I could run the 3300X without issues for my daily driver paired with my 2070Super.
keep up the content . best uk tech youtuber ( especially cuz you test budget hardware unlike other youtubers which only test overpriced 3080 and ryzen 5950x )
I saw it in stock and had it, along with RAM and a Motherboard in my cart. Then I realised it would have extra duty fees to ship from USA (I'm in Canada). My girlfriend really needed an upgrade... She's still on the i5-2500 so I bought an i3-10100f, just like you suggested in the video lol
I planned to get one, but then it came out and was so much over MSRP that the Ryzen 5 3600 was cheaper. That said, I stayed on a mailing list at a place to find when they'd be back in stock at a place that only sells at MSRP. They kept emailing me updates once every 2 weeks, telling me that they'd tell me when it was back in stock. It was over a year before they finally told me it was in stock. And even they sold it for $10 over MSRP.
There is a setting in Windows Graphics settings advanced menu that completely sends all the frame timings to the gpu bypassing the cpu entirely. So from there the gpu goes as fast as it can go. I have a 3950x so I tell the cpu to handle the physics instead of the gpu, using nvidia control panel. So this gives the card more resources on itself to perform better.
I was one of the rare few who got this cpu when it launched, and for it's msrp price of $120 American. Granted, it took two months for it to show up (It arrived on 4th of July weekend). Still running it right now, and it has handled everything I have thrown at it. At the time when I was waiting for it, I was running the 1600AF and swapped them out once it showed up. (Built my mom a new system and gave her the 1600af) For what it is, this CPU is a beast of a CPU for being a 4 core. I really debated hard if I should upgrade, and even bought the 5600X...but...the 5600x is still sitting in it's box on my desk... I know...Sad...
My local Micro Center had them for $120 or $130 USD recently and they were on the shelf for a week or two, but they are gone again. Seems like the supply for these are just sporadic.
Its out of stock for the same reason everything else is, the silicone is being used on the newer chips and older stuff is being produced much, much slower then normal. I would love to find one of these for a mini portable build.
Ryzen 3 3300X was basically a reject of 3600X and 3800X, while Ryzen 3 3100 was a reject of 3600 and 3700X. As said in the video, Zen 2 architecture was more successful during silicon lottery, so there were not that many 3300x to begin with . And due to silicon shortage, it did not pay off for AMD to make these cheaper processors on purpose . And currently Zen 2 architecture is slowly winding down, so do not expect to see much 3300xs anyway (or even 3100s) . Best bet is to save some money for 3600 and have a proper 6 core 12 thread processor .
I have a 3300x they've been relatively east to get in western Canada. I've also build 4 different computers with them for customers. While in the past they have been relatively easy to get they seem much more rare now.
I have one! In fact its processing chrome right now as I write this. It has been a trusty backbone to my system for a year now. I spoiled it a little last month with an AIO even though it didnt need one
Watching on a 3300X :) I love this little CPU. 4.35GHz of Zen 2 core goodness. It only set me back about $115 USD for a tray version. I have mine paired with an RX 570 in an SG13 ITX case.
When I built my 3300x system, I also scored a brand new vega 56 for $200 from Newegg. (it was on sale on the weekend I bought it) It has exceeded all of my expectations for the quad core and the vega gpu. They love being overclocked and has been a little race horse for me. Yes, I went overkill for the cooling system, because I thought I would be upgrading to the new 5000 series cpu when they came out...Then the gpu and cpu apocalypses happened. So the pairing has been amazing and never regretted it.
This chip never actually existed. They sent samples out to reviewers to pretend they cared about gamers on a budget and never made them again. I was trying to buy one after seeing reviews and they NEVER came back in stock. This was the first clue AMD doesn't give a fuck about you unless you're spending $550+ on your CPU. Zen3 pricing and the fact the overpriced 5600x has had very little restock was the next. But the 5800x and 5900x is always in stock. Screw AMD. I'm done pretending they give a shit about anything but profits.
I really hate people who bootlicks billion dollar company. AMD is a company. What does companies do? They sell shit and get money. People always talk as if AMD was a crusader, one which will SLAY overpriced Nvidia and Intel. But in reality, AMD just see you as dollar bill, same as these other company.
@@saltlife8762 what about it? Runs almost everything at a 20fps drop from a 3800x when placed head to head. The price to performance is fantastic and the architecture is also fantastic. Obviously if i went with a 5600x or 5800x it would do better all around, that money saved went into the aesthetic though.
Ryzen 3 Pro 4350G/GE launched before the 3300x, however, these were APUs with a completely different die design than the desktop 3300X/3800X. As far as i can tell, even though the 4350G/GE were very popular with businesses, AMD had resorted to fusing off parts of working 4750G/GE dies to meet demand for 4650G and 4350G Yields were reportedly so good, that the majority of the 4-6 core versions were actually cut down 8 cores without a defect that required them to be turned into a lower product. normally requiring a defect in either the CPU, or GPU many ended up with 'intentional' defects
Great video! I wanted one of Ryzen 3300x CPUs last year. But, I just settled for ryzen 3100. Works great with my RX 5500 XT 8GB. Hopefully, I can upgrade to a RGB cooler so i can overclock the CPU more.
I remember considering this for my new pc last year. I ended up going for the 3700x because I don't want to have to replace the CPU, and then compromising on the GPU and RAM slightly, under the assumption I would add more ram and replace the graphics card in a few years. I'm feeling pretty smug with how the chip shortages have only gotten worse since I got my computer.
A 4 core 8 thread CPU is fine today and will likely be fine for a while, its just if you're buying new its hard to judge the price to performance differential between that and a newer more core CPU, so to save yourself a headache, which likely won't save you too much cash anyway and just buy the newer one with more cores.
ryzen 3600 i got it of aliexpress 125€ runs great has oc potenciel better then my mates 3600 that he bought new... that wouldnt hold 4.2ghz oc... and boosted stock to 4.1 ish.
I mean - to be honest much older 4 core 8 thread CPUs are perfectly fine for game even today. An example I have right here is my "bedroom PC" - which is partially an old "rescue" from an office PC - a Xeon E3-1230 V3 - which roughly performs like a 4770. I had a bad back for 6 months (which I got over about 7 months ago - so fairly current). It is paired with an RTX 2060 - and maxes out the GPU basically all the time. It performs very well in new games - including games like Cyberpunk... So frankly unless you have a 3070 or 6700XT (ish) you would be just fine with a CPU like that. On that note - I thought the ECC DDR3 from the office PC would be an issue - but it's actually not that bad at all. My main rig is a much newer and faster Ryzen 5600X - and in most games I can't really tell the difference - unless I crank the setting to the max.
In India, since its launch, I have been waiting anxiously for it so that I could purchase it at MSRP since launch. It came in stocks, but was grossly overpriced like 16k Indian rupees. I always suggested this processor if thy could get it at MSRP from anywhere for any budget or mid level built. Absolute beast of a processor at the price point.
yea my dedicated streaming rig i was gunna go for one of these but ended up gettin it a Ryzen 5 3600 just to upgrade it from a FX 8350 for around $200 which i couldn't beat
The true reason for all these shortages IS NOT the effects of the COVID-19 pandemic! That's just a bullshit cover story told by the mainstream news agencies, in the interest of NOT causing a public panic. The true reason for all these shortages is the Long Emergency, as foretold by James Howard Kunstler! You see, the Long Emergency is caused by global resource depletion. Well, guess what: the COVID-19 cover story will only DELAY the inevitable public panic that WILL happen once people start encountering $20 per gallon gasoline and empty grocery store shelves!
I bought an r5 2600 for $90 , came with a tube of grizzly cryo paste and the stock cooler. stuck it in a b450 mortar max for $60 brand new, temps idle at 43C and max at 77C. Paired with an RX 580 8gb I can hold my 60fps in most games mixing high and medium in certain titles and high in less demanding ones.
That would just be a 180 degree turn of their original brand image, which is to serve the mid-low budget market. Though there are possible factors to this, such as a very few defects of their 8 core dies that would make a quad core chip, in which it would make more financial sense to just release 6/8 cores. The bad impact is that it would leave intel monopolizing the low-end cpu market. The i3 just keeps getting renewed. The 13100f can run rtx 4060 in games without bottleneck let alone lower end gpus the customers would most likely buy. 14100f is the same thing just higher by 200 mhz.
I remember i wanted to sell my i5 8400 and buy this 3300X even tho it could look like a downgrade but still, that CCX design could shine in CPU intensive titles like CS:GO. Sometimes it performed better fps than the R5 3600. It was like a messenger of the zen3 architecture. Unfortunately it was barely available and highly overpriced, so i skipped the plan.
I was in the same situation and wish I had waited for 5000 series. Single ccx is still the best and I think the 3300x would be better even outside of games. Even in just general system responsiveness, that single ccx design would make everything feel snappier. I went with an r5 3600 and while it has more cores and threads, I can honestly say it's still not as responsive as even an old 4th gen Intel. Although we're talking milliseconds, once you've used a single ccx chip you can really notice the difference.
Got my 3300X on launch from Amazon for £120.... then they just disappeared...... think some people even said it never actually existed because of it's rarity.
This chip has been readily available, brand new, in Australia despite the UK,US shortages for ~120-140GBP (220-260AUD) for some reason. Interest here has dropped off since Microsoft has failed to list it again on the latest updated list of approved chips for Windows 11. I think AMD might have asked them to kill it off since it competes with their own latest chips now.
I consider that damn 50% markup to be a scalped price! In my opinion, a 50 percent markup from the MSRP is the minimum threshold for scalping. I would LOVE for the federal government to impose an 80 percent punitive tax on ALL scalped sales! This would, more than even outlawing scalping, deter people from scalping!
Good video. The 10100F and 10105F are great performers, nearly as good as an i7-7700. The only snag is the price of LGA 1200 motherboards. They cost at least £60 for the most basic H410, whereas an AM4 A320 board can be bought brand new for £25 (Amazon).
It's still available at the Microcenters near me, at $149 USD, not worth it, especially considering they have the 11400f around that price, the 11600k for 50 more, or like you said, the i3 10100f for 50 less. I think AM4 is still the better platform, but the pricepoint for that chip needs some work.
Bought the Ryzen 3 3300X on the first week of it's launch. It is an awesome chip for the (initial) price. Running Flight Simulator 2020 smoothly on 1080p ultra, pairing with 5700XT.
My 3100 is oc to 4.5ghz @ 1.27v and it rarely goes above 50% usage in most games. I wanted the 3300x but it was out of stock. But I've been told it doesn't overstock aswell so I'm still happy with the 3100.
I bought mine brand new from South Korea for only $126 in sealed packaging. But shortly after I bought mine, within 24 hours, the price jumped up $30 and then jumped again $40 more less than a week after the first price jump. Really happy I did when I had the chance. Edit: i3 10105's can be had for $94 on eBay. So if you guys need a decent chip, I recommend it :)
The R3 3300X made no sense in my region because the R5 3500X was available at the same or even lower price, and it has 6 physical cores (6C/6T > 4C/8T). On the Intel side, there was the Xeon E-2126G at around the same price, and it has an IGP - although it requires a pin-mod and BIOS hack to run on a cheap consumer motherboard.
The 3300X is locally available here ($170), but almost at the price of a 10400F ($176). It's not worth it at that price unfortunately. All of the Ryzen chips here locally went up in price because everyone was buying them. I still see people advocating for the chips ignoring the competition when they are priced lower.
Lately I've been using a 10100f that was incredibly cheap and, coming from an FX 8350, it's a beast. And my power bill is now much more reasonable. Even paired with a high performance Nvidia gpu, the performance hit is close to imperceptible, for me at least.
Yes, agree totally, had a ryzen 3 3100 system for a week building it up for my nephew, gave it to him, then could not find ryzen cpu under 400 nz$ , Jesus what a shock, looked at intel stuff , they had a i3 10100f for $150nz and did a bit of research and is comparable, I am mightily impressed with what this thing does, runs rings around a ryzen 3 2200g with a 1060 discrete card which was my old system, very happy with the price,performance , you can't argue and with amd start price for ryzen 5 3600 at $400nz , sad to say, but amd have priced themselves out of the cheap gaming pc market....my how roles have reversed....
The Ryzen 3300X was ultimately a better buy for current Entry Level Workstations in comparison to the similarly performing 8600K, 9600K, and Ryzen 3500X (though those come with significantly worse Framerate Consistency in Gaming, despite 06 Core/06 Thread chips performing roughly on par with their 04C/08T counterparts); in reality, Four Core chips with Multithreading will ultimately be the better buy for Generation VIII Gaming and earlier than a Six Core without MT ever will, and this Zen II CPU will hold its worth more than the 3500X that both this and the Ryzen PRO 4350G will still have some relevance in the Asian market, where they will still bear more presence. With Alder Lake coming in the next 064 days though, this will be the worst time to opt for getting a Quad Core chip from Intel or AMD if you intend to get a DDR IV~based platform, and I wouldn't be surprised if there will be some cost effective chips coming from Generation XII Core i that will serve with better Price to Performance (if the Tray Price for a 12900KF at 0579$ USD is anything to go by, expect there to be price drops from AMD if this chip truly is near the 5950X's Multithreaded performance and ultimately having better AI capabilities than any of Zen III); while the i03 units probably won't arrive until the Locked chips come out in the months to follow, the simple presence of the 12600KF alone at 0263.I5$ will force many lower end parts to see their prices tank, either that or it'll make looking for a 3300X or 4350G inconsiderable due to both of those chips being hard to get below 02I0 to 0260$ on the Second Hand market, we'll have to watch closely for how well the Alder Lake i05 (K Series) parts settle but it may very well put a major dent into considering a Ryzen 03 during AMD's ongoing availability factor.
I got one on launch day, still going strong today with my GTX 1650 Super, I remember the good days when the 3300x was £120 and the GTX 1650 Super was around £150, sadly those days are far gone now but hopefully things will improve at the budget end soon (maybe one day haha)
CCL Computers used to sell 3300X CPU but only with Motherboard and Ram Bundles at a inflated prices and only on their eBay page (So they didn't get targeted by bad review bombs on their actual site.). When those ran out they sold 3100X CPUs then 3200G and 3400G. They seems to be limping with the Ryzen 1200 and 1600 now. They were called out on Facebook for their prices when people started to notice they would spike the price up to 200% making it so the unsuspecting novice would buy the hyper inflated bundle thinking it was a good buy due to the many purchases. (I saw some poor soul buy a £190 Bundle for £370 in the Purchase history..) They said it was a price algorithm they used, we said BS and wiped our hands clean of them and discontinued business with them.
I have a 10105f... even some more performance (and with a b560 chipset with 3200 mhz DDR4 memory even more. That chipset does benefit from the faster memory)
I have seen a lot of 3300x in stock for msrp on allegro a few months back, when I waz buldig my pc; I couldn't decide between the 3300x, the 3600, and the 2700x, so I picked the 30% over msrp 3600.
i agree 4c/8t cpus are are acceptable at reasonable price, however for modern games i consider it to be minimum. for modern games imo 4c/8t is minimum, 6c/12t is optimal and 8c/16t is perfect.
Both at stock speeds, the 3300X beats the i7-7700k. The 3300X was just priced badly. Where I live (Philippines), it was priced around Php 7500($150) while a R5 3500 can be bought for 8,500($170). The R5 3500 was better overall bcause of 6cores/6threads. If lucky, one could get the R5 3600 for 10,500($210) here.
I remember the launch of this cpu and it literally flew off the shelves.
I preordered it and got it like 4-5 months later
literally? Please tell me you recorded their flights!
Like literally like 😆
I just checked on a german price comparison site.
Here in Germany, you can get a 3300x for 250. same price as for a 5600x currently
Same price as i7-10700K in Microcenter US.
Madness
Ryzen 3 3300X was basically a reject of 3600X and 3800X, while Ryzen 3 3100 was a reject of 3600 and 3700X. As said in the video, Zen 2 architecture was more successful during silicon lottery, so there were not that many 3300x to begin with . And due to silicon shortage, it did not pay off for AMD to make these cheaper processors on purpose . And currently Zen 2 architecture is slowly winding down, so do not expect to see much 3300xs anyway (or even 3100s) . Best bet is to save some money for 3600 and have a proper 6 core 12 thread processor .
1049 dkk= €141
Oh geez. Hopefully no one buys them at that comparative price.
Since launch I've only ever seen it in stock once, and even then stock was like 3 units. One of my friends bought it for like 150 euros, turned out to be one of the best possible purchases in recent years.
That was a lucky buy! I put off buying it for a week after launch and regretted it ever since lol
@nunya Lol, I've never looked in to getting one. But hundreds available on Ebay, doesn't sound all that rare :) Maybe he's talking about finding one brand new? Wait isnt it years old now? Hmm
I bought a new ryzen 3600 for 120€, so the ryzen 5 is better but still the ryzen 3 is a great cpu!!
@@youssefgrine8294 you mean used or new?
Wow €150? Ive got two brand new R5 3600's for €150 each.
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2:32 you are correct. the 3300 and 3100 are indeed defective ryzen chips that doesn't meet the required core count for 3600 and above products. as the manufacturing process matures - less and less defective chips are produced hence why these ryzen 3 vanished like a fart in the wind which is a real shame because they are really competitive chips for their original MSRP.
TLDR; the 3300 and 3100 are not purposely built cpu's. but rather a byproduct of defective chips during the (at the time new) manufacturing process. it was a godsend back then the "no chip left behind" mantra.
Thank you, it took me a while to wrap my head around the details haha
On top of that the defective CPU had to have a very specific configuration of good cores to be a 3300X and not a 3100 (All four good cores on the same core cluster, or CCX).
With AMD moving to an 8 core CCX with the current 5000 cpus it makes sense that the 5100, 5200, and 5300 variants are quite rare as losing that many cores to defects on a CCX likely means other parts of it are dead too.
It's also why you can sometimes get disabled cores or cache to work, but it's a bit of a mess and it's usually instable
Sometimes a chip has 5 working cores, and the cache is functional for a 6 core model, but one core is just not really up to the task so they bring it down to the next lower spec by disabling portions.
I got a Ryzen 3 3100 from Dec 2020.
Now I'm not sure if its just silicon lottery or if it's due to the more mature process like you said, but I'm able to do a 4.3 GHz overclock at just 1.243v. Essentially an i7-7700K for $100.
The 3300X was a demonstration of what a single CCX chip would bring to the table, AMD was hinting at the upgrade that the ZEN3 chips would bring with their 8 core single CCX design even using just 4 cores in a ZEN2 architecture.
yep i snapped up AMD stock as soon as i saw the potential of the 3300x
@@rdmz135
Good job mate. For a £100/£120 it was an absolute bargain.
My thoughts exactly when I saw the Ryzen 5000 launch event
Luckily i got one for $120 and one for my friend, he mostly plays esport games so the 3300x is a no brainer choice for the price
down with esport titles!
j/k, nice job helping your buddy out. I dont have any friends.
Excellent price
@@iamatlantis1 bruh
This and the 1600AF at launch prices were unbeatable. At the time I built a PC for my nephew with the 1600AF at $85, it was almost a steal for the performance. Oh, and a week later I got myself a 2200G for my HTPC for a mere $80, another steal.
Good times, but I wish I udapted my GPU back then...
It's basically impossible to make one due to good yields. they would have to disable higher price cpus to make them
In older times they have disabled better parts to fill supply contracts. I'm pretty sure nowadays those contracts are written so that "at least" a certain part is supplied, rather than wasting high quality parts and better thermal management and customisable TDP have helped.
@METhOdhowtoKilLnoObS and 5800x are the 5900x that failed the requirements, hence why 5800x runs a bit hotter but are great for oc since they are quite high ends chips. 5600x are not 5800xs tho, its a bit different process for those.
CCL had these with motherboard bundles on their eBay shop, I actually bought a 3300x bundle a few months ago to build a budget system for someone. Seems they only have them bundled with A320s now to shift the stock I would guess. but I got it with B450 and 16Gb of 3200mhz Ram.
Nice how much?
Yeah seen the a320 bundles. Not too bad if you don’t want to overclock
I got pretty much the exact same b450 3300x bundle from CCL for my sister in law
Do you ever plan on reviewing the Intel 10100F? I was planning a budget PC build for my niece and the 10100F with RX550 seemed like a great entry level combo (she eventually bought a friend's PC); it' was slightly quicker than the price-equivalent AMD at the time, Ryzen 3100 or something like that.
I have the i5-9600KF with RX590 FATBOY. No overclocking setting changes or anything. I get consistent 60fp in any 1080p game I've played. Great affordable combo. Worked really well with i3-9100f as well
I love comparing new quad cores to the last ever core i7 quad core that ever came out just for fun
With the availability of used 2600, 3600, etc being around $120-150, there's hardly much reason to get a 3300x at this point really. Can even find used 1600af for $80-$110 pretty often
on amazon the 3600 is $300 lmao
I upgraded from a 1600AE to the 3300X I don’t agree with your sentiment
@@nathanbasset af and ae are different
can you send me where u found the used 1600af, im building my pc next week and all i need is the cpu
@@okabesg4389 I bought it when it came out.
AMD should really start focusing on APU production, especially RDNA-based APUs because from watching the price trends of their current 5000 series CPUs with the frequent discounts on them from retailers, they're more accessible and easy to buy than their GPUs. They would earn more this way instead of expecting people to buy overpriced GPUs.
Not really...the main markets are still buying new expensive GPUs...
they do but they'll focus on laptop market first and desktop get the leftover later
@@takehirolol5962 ...which are out of reach to most gamers who don't have disposable income lying around.
Yeah they just need to include a better onboard gpu. The cpu parts keep getting better but the gpu is always a bottleneck
Rembrandt is coming, it'll feature rdna 2 based gpu
I can only agree with you, a 4 core / 8 thread CPU is more than enough for todays games. I picked up an Intel Xeon E3-1231 v3 (comparable to a Core i7-4790) for 55€ and coming from an i5-4460 it does make a huge difference!
Love my 3600 even though it's a little warm. Looked at upgrades but performance uplift not worth the high cost.
Did you try redoing thermal paste?
Yeah I’m running a 3600 in my build alongside a 2070 Super and 16gb of Ram nothing it can’t run at 1080-1440p at 60+ FPS 👍🏻
@@MudSluggerBP have the same setup.
@@BlackJesus8463 I got an arctic esports duo & some good noctua paste. It's under control running at max all the time, it's just a bit of a hot boi by nature.
My friend was telling me about a program that automatically finds stable undervolts for ryzen. Might be worth looking into. Also just a better cooler. The stock one is kinda whimpy. Not intel whimpy, but still. Cooler master hyper 212 is working well for me (5600x).
I recently put together a lower cost amd system, and i wanted a 3300x
However i found they were only about 10$ CAD cheaper than the 3600 new.
And on the used market they were actually more expensive than the 3600.
So i felt i was kind of pushed in the direction of buying the 3600 because the pricing just didnt really make sense.
I have seen some benchmarks from HUB where the 3300x scored higher than the 3600 because of the higher single core performance. But the 6/12 cpu will most likely have more longevity.
I had a 3300X pre-ordered from B&H for my wife's PC at least a month before release (wanted to upgrade her from an i5-6500 machine). Release day came and went, about two more months went by, and B&H would periodically email me to say they still didn't have any stock. I eventually gave up, canceled the pre-order, and used a secondhand 2600 for her system.
You've done your research very well because that what actually happened last year when im looking to upgrade an younger sibling's PC. Settled on a used R5 2600 in the end.
I just wanted to say you're getting better at games... like actually really decent...
Back in spring 2020 i got a r5 3600X for 190 euros, switched from an i3 4250. Gosh it feels so lucky, to have dodged the silicone shortage.
Scalpers and miners ruin everything.
Still rocking this a year later and it's popped up here and there down under but I've only seen box damaged ones on sale now locally.
3300x has been back in stock at my local micro center at $120... Already had a 3700x since 2019 though so havent actually picked it up
Maybe everybody quit pc gaming so its available
I purchased one when they launched and built my nephew a gaming computer which he is still rocking to this day. A few weeks ago they came up on Newegg and B&H and I picked one up at reasonable cost installing it on a very cost effective B450 Steel Legend which is waiting to go into a case now. I run a 3600 myself but I believe I could run the 3300X without issues for my daily driver paired with my 2070Super.
Yeah you definitely could, it’s surprisingly capable
@@RandomGaminginHD Keep up the great videos son thank you
This video was launched on my birthday
keep up the content . best uk tech youtuber ( especially cuz you test budget hardware unlike other youtubers which only test overpriced 3080 and ryzen 5950x )
6:07 I almost got heart attack when I saw cyberpunk got 75 fps
But then I realized that it was running on 6600XT lol😂😂🐸
I mean is that a good or bad thing?
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Maybe the OP thought it was a G variant?
I saw it in stock and had it, along with RAM and a Motherboard in my cart. Then I realised it would have extra duty fees to ship from USA (I'm in Canada). My girlfriend really needed an upgrade... She's still on the i5-2500 so I bought an i3-10100f, just like you suggested in the video lol
I got a 1600AF the moment it dropped for MSRP $85. 6 cores, 12 threads, zen +, and pretty overclockable. literally insane value
I planned to get one, but then it came out and was so much over MSRP that the Ryzen 5 3600 was cheaper.
That said, I stayed on a mailing list at a place to find when they'd be back in stock at a place that only sells at MSRP. They kept emailing me updates once every 2 weeks, telling me that they'd tell me when it was back in stock. It was over a year before they finally told me it was in stock. And even they sold it for $10 over MSRP.
There is a setting in Windows Graphics settings advanced menu that completely sends all the frame timings to the gpu bypassing the cpu entirely. So from there the gpu goes as fast as it can go. I have a 3950x so I tell the cpu to handle the physics instead of the gpu, using nvidia control panel. So this gives the card more resources on itself to perform better.
I was one of the rare few who got this cpu when it launched, and for it's msrp price of $120 American. Granted, it took two months for it to show up (It arrived on 4th of July weekend). Still running it right now, and it has handled everything I have thrown at it. At the time when I was waiting for it, I was running the 1600AF and swapped them out once it showed up. (Built my mom a new system and gave her the 1600af) For what it is, this CPU is a beast of a CPU for being a 4 core. I really debated hard if I should upgrade, and even bought the 5600X...but...the 5600x is still sitting in it's box on my desk... I know...Sad...
My local Micro Center had them for $120 or $130 USD recently and they were on the shelf for a week or two, but they are gone again. Seems like the supply for these are just sporadic.
Its out of stock for the same reason everything else is, the silicone is being used on the newer chips and older stuff is being produced much, much slower then normal. I would love to find one of these for a mini portable build.
Ryzen 3 3300X was basically a reject of 3600X and 3800X, while Ryzen 3 3100 was a reject of 3600 and 3700X. As said in the video, Zen 2 architecture was more successful during silicon lottery, so there were not that many 3300x to begin with . And due to silicon shortage, it did not pay off for AMD to make these cheaper processors on purpose . And currently Zen 2 architecture is slowly winding down, so do not expect to see much 3300xs anyway (or even 3100s) . Best bet is to save some money for 3600 and have a proper 6 core 12 thread processor .
3300x have always been out of stock
Dude yes!!! I kept looking for months after the release and the only ones I could find were ridiculously over priced!
I have a 3300x they've been relatively east to get in western Canada. I've also build 4 different computers with them for customers. While in the past they have been relatively easy to get they seem much more rare now.
I have one! In fact its processing chrome right now as I write this. It has been a trusty backbone to my system for a year now. I spoiled it a little last month with an AIO even though it didnt need one
The i3-10100 is surprisingly good actually. I got mine for a steal from MicroCenter and used it as my VR daily driver for over a year.
i bought a new 3500x on aliexpress for the price of a 3300x on my country, this cpu never had a reasonable pricing over here.
I bought 15 of these CPU's I used them in builds they were good gaming CPU's.
Watching on a 3300X :) I love this little CPU. 4.35GHz of Zen 2 core goodness. It only set me back about $115 USD for a tray version. I have mine paired with an RX 570 in an SG13 ITX case.
Nice build buddy, I've got that fantastic SG13 too, but paired with R5 3600 and RX 5600XT and also with ATX power supply xd
When I built my 3300x system, I also scored a brand new vega 56 for $200 from Newegg. (it was on sale on the weekend I bought it) It has exceeded all of my expectations for the quad core and the vega gpu. They love being overclocked and has been a little race horse for me. Yes, I went overkill for the cooling system, because I thought I would be upgrading to the new 5000 series cpu when they came out...Then the gpu and cpu apocalypses happened. So the pairing has been amazing and never regretted it.
This chip never actually existed. They sent samples out to reviewers to pretend they cared about gamers on a budget and never made them again. I was trying to buy one after seeing reviews and they NEVER came back in stock.
This was the first clue AMD doesn't give a fuck about you unless you're spending $550+ on your CPU. Zen3 pricing and the fact the overpriced 5600x has had very little restock was the next. But the 5800x and 5900x is always in stock.
Screw AMD. I'm done pretending they give a shit about anything but profits.
I really hate people who bootlicks billion dollar company. AMD is a company. What does companies do? They sell shit and get money. People always talk as if AMD was a crusader, one which will SLAY overpriced Nvidia and Intel. But in reality, AMD just see you as dollar bill, same as these other company.
I finally got one for $125 at Walmart…it was great. I used it in a really sick gaming (Strictly) setup alongside a 3070ti.
what about bottleneck?
It won't bottleneck a 3070ti. Think of it as using a slightly weaker than average 8700K or i9 7900X
@@saltlife8762 what about it? Runs almost everything at a 20fps drop from a 3800x when placed head to head. The price to performance is fantastic and the architecture is also fantastic.
Obviously if i went with a 5600x or 5800x it would do better all around, that money saved went into the aesthetic though.
Yeah that’ll definitely bottleneck a 3070ti homey - thay GPU can bottleneck an 8 core in certain games
@@saltlife8762 it's very difficult to bottleneck a CPU unless you're going with some of most ridiculous combinations
In my country, 3300X and 3500 basically have the same price due to availablity.
Ryzen 3 Pro 4350G/GE launched before the 3300x, however, these were APUs with a completely different die design than the desktop 3300X/3800X. As far as i can tell, even though the 4350G/GE were very popular with businesses, AMD had resorted to fusing off parts of working 4750G/GE dies to meet demand for 4650G and 4350G Yields were reportedly so good, that the majority of the 4-6 core versions were actually cut down 8 cores without a defect that required them to be turned into a lower product. normally requiring a defect in either the CPU, or GPU many ended up with 'intentional' defects
This high yield is probably why we will never see a 5300/5400x unless AMD makes a dedicated smaller die with only 4 cores
Great video! I wanted one of Ryzen 3300x CPUs last year. But, I just settled for ryzen 3100. Works great with my RX 5500 XT 8GB. Hopefully, I can upgrade to a RGB cooler so i can overclock the CPU more.
Add to yours ryzen 3100 +600Mhz OC and its like ryzen 3300X. Unfortunately suck much more power and produce a lot of more heat.
I remember considering this for my new pc last year. I ended up going for the 3700x because I don't want to have to replace the CPU, and then compromising on the GPU and RAM slightly, under the assumption I would add more ram and replace the graphics card in a few years. I'm feeling pretty smug with how the chip shortages have only gotten worse since I got my computer.
A 4 core 8 thread CPU is fine today and will likely be fine for a while, its just if you're buying new its hard to judge the price to performance differential between that and a newer more core CPU, so to save yourself a headache, which likely won't save you too much cash anyway and just buy the newer one with more cores.
I know immediately when reading the notification that the video would talk about the 3300X, good gaming cpu
Microcenter just raised the price on these to $150 USD.
Recently bought a “used” Ryzen 5 3600XT for $130. It was new in box. Lucky find but there is no way to justify the price tag on this.
I wish i could buy one at that price
ryzen 3600 i got it of aliexpress 125€ runs great has oc potenciel better then my mates 3600 that he bought new... that wouldnt hold 4.2ghz oc... and boosted stock to 4.1 ish.
I started with a 3100 and 5500XT last year and recently upgraded to a 3300 and 6600XT. 😂
Nice 👍
We have same build. I'm using 3300X with 6600 XT too. But I upgraded from 1500X - 5500 XT combo :D
@@kino8350 👍👍
Why it seems like i have found my way to another upload of rgihd
Proud owner of one of these. It's brutal and I love it
I mean - to be honest much older 4 core 8 thread CPUs are perfectly fine for game even today. An example I have right here is my "bedroom PC" - which is partially an old "rescue" from an office PC - a Xeon E3-1230 V3 - which roughly performs like a 4770. I had a bad back for 6 months (which I got over about 7 months ago - so fairly current). It is paired with an RTX 2060 - and maxes out the GPU basically all the time. It performs very well in new games - including games like Cyberpunk... So frankly unless you have a 3070 or 6700XT (ish) you would be just fine with a CPU like that. On that note - I thought the ECC DDR3 from the office PC would be an issue - but it's actually not that bad at all. My main rig is a much newer and faster Ryzen 5600X - and in most games I can't really tell the difference - unless I crank the setting to the max.
In India, since its launch, I have been waiting anxiously for it so that I could purchase it at MSRP since launch. It came in stocks, but was grossly overpriced like 16k Indian rupees. I always suggested this processor if thy could get it at MSRP from anywhere for any budget or mid level built. Absolute beast of a processor at the price point.
Ryzen 3 3300X + GTX1650 Super was the ultimate budget performance to price build!
Now we can only dream to build a PC like this 😂😂🤣🤣
I have this in 2021 👍👍
yea my dedicated streaming rig i was gunna go for one of these but ended up gettin it a Ryzen 5 3600 just to upgrade it from a FX 8350 for around $200 which i couldn't beat
It's like when the ryzen 5 1600 AF came out and just vanished
I had one for a while 😃
I just looked and they're available. Looks like finding one for MSRP is a fantasy though. The whole world has just gone insane. I'm glad my PC works.
The true reason for all these shortages IS NOT the effects of the COVID-19 pandemic! That's just a bullshit cover story told by the mainstream news agencies, in the interest of NOT causing a public panic. The true reason for all these shortages is the Long Emergency, as foretold by James Howard Kunstler! You see, the Long Emergency is caused by global resource depletion. Well, guess what: the COVID-19 cover story will only DELAY the inevitable public panic that WILL happen once people start encountering $20 per gallon gasoline and empty grocery store shelves!
i just saw one on the shelf the other day. already regret not getting it
i use the i5 10600k @5.0 GHz and i consider it a beast for 1080p gaming still. If FHD gaming is your main focus i don't think you need more.
There must be some business reason that I don;t understand why they don't make as many of these APUs for retail sale, the demand sure would be there.
I bought an r5 2600 for $90 , came with a tube of grizzly cryo paste and the stock cooler. stuck it in a b450 mortar max for $60 brand new, temps idle at 43C and max at 77C. Paired with an RX 580 8gb I can hold my 60fps in most games mixing high and medium in certain titles and high in less demanding ones.
where did you buy it from
@@okabesg4389 the cpu I got it used but in the box sealed and all
@@fatmama335 yeah but like what website
@@okabesg4389 ebay
I’ve both the 3600 and 3300x and the later clocks way higher so 1 core perf is higher. As long as more core aren’t needed 3300x is a beast.
AMD will most likely not make Ryzen 3 after 2024. Ryzen 5 is now the base model in the AM5 7000 series
That would just be a 180 degree turn of their original brand image, which is to serve the mid-low budget market. Though there are possible factors to this, such as a very few defects of their 8 core dies that would make a quad core chip, in which it would make more financial sense to just release 6/8 cores. The bad impact is that it would leave intel monopolizing the low-end cpu market. The i3 just keeps getting renewed. The 13100f can run rtx 4060 in games without bottleneck let alone lower end gpus the customers would most likely buy. 14100f is the same thing just higher by 200 mhz.
I remember i wanted to sell my i5 8400 and buy this 3300X even tho it could look like a downgrade but still, that CCX design could shine in CPU intensive titles like CS:GO. Sometimes it performed better fps than the R5 3600. It was like a messenger of the zen3 architecture. Unfortunately it was barely available and highly overpriced, so i skipped the plan.
I was in the same situation and wish I had waited for 5000 series. Single ccx is still the best and I think the 3300x would be better even outside of games. Even in just general system responsiveness, that single ccx design would make everything feel snappier. I went with an r5 3600 and while it has more cores and threads, I can honestly say it's still not as responsive as even an old 4th gen Intel. Although we're talking milliseconds, once you've used a single ccx chip you can really notice the difference.
Got my 3300X on launch from Amazon for £120.... then they just disappeared...... think some people even said it never actually existed because of it's rarity.
Hey, when the 3300x isn't available.
The 10100f/10105f or 10400f is!
Might want to consider those ;)
Yeah definitely great options. Not sure why the 10105f exists though haha
Bought one at launch for 120. Been using it ever since. 🙂
This chip has been readily available, brand new, in Australia despite the UK,US shortages for ~120-140GBP (220-260AUD) for some reason. Interest here has dropped off since Microsoft has failed to list it again on the latest updated list of approved chips for Windows 11. I think AMD might have asked them to kill it off since it competes with their own latest chips now.
It seems strange. There are a dozen of these (11 to be exact) in stock at my closest Microcenter for $150 US. I had no idea it was in demand....
You should get one ;)
There is a bunch of them in the states on amazon right now for $230.. I would rather get a 5600x if on a budget though!
And ALL OF THEM are being sold by the damned-to-Hell scalpers, too!
This cpu basically got converted into Steam Deck specs (Zen 2 CPU with 4c 8t, i have no idea if the ccx configuration is the same as ryzen 3 3300x)
Wanted to build a new PC for my son and wanted to use one of these... Have never been able to get one until now, at 50% markup... No thanks!
I consider that damn 50% markup to be a scalped price! In my opinion, a 50 percent markup from the MSRP is the minimum threshold for scalping. I would LOVE for the federal government to impose an 80 percent punitive tax on ALL scalped sales! This would, more than even outlawing scalping, deter people from scalping!
cant find r5 2600 back then and got 3300x as a temporary and oh boi this bad boy aint gonna be a temporary
Good video. The 10100F and 10105F are great performers, nearly as good as an i7-7700. The only snag is the price of LGA 1200 motherboards. They cost at least £60 for the most basic H410, whereas an AM4 A320 board can be bought brand new for £25 (Amazon).
It's still available at the Microcenters near me, at $149 USD, not worth it, especially considering they have the 11400f around that price, the 11600k for 50 more, or like you said, the i3 10100f for 50 less. I think AM4 is still the better platform, but the pricepoint for that chip needs some work.
This feels like a lost CPU creepypasta that came in stock and messed with everyone's PC and then disappeared.
Lost media
I saw that bot teleport at 1:33 😂😂 it confused me too
Bought the Ryzen 3 3300X on the first week of it's launch. It is an awesome chip for the (initial) price. Running Flight Simulator 2020 smoothly on 1080p ultra, pairing with 5700XT.
I wanted one of those bu I only found the 3400G
Maybe test the 3300x against a 5300g, using a discrete GPU with both. Similar tests show the 5600g performing closer to a 3600 than a 5600x.
oh lol for real? 5600g is more like a 3600? you kidding?
@@reggiexp69 well yes bc it has a gpu and the clocks are lower too as far as I know.
My 3100 is oc to 4.5ghz @ 1.27v and it rarely goes above 50% usage in most games. I wanted the 3300x but it was out of stock. But I've been told it doesn't overstock aswell so I'm still happy with the 3100.
I managed to get the 3300X for MSRP at launch and I’ve been using it very happily with a 1660 Super ever since
I bought mine brand new from South Korea for only $126 in sealed packaging. But shortly after I bought mine, within 24 hours, the price jumped up $30 and then jumped again $40 more less than a week after the first price jump. Really happy I did when I had the chance.
Edit: i3 10105's can be had for $94 on eBay. So if you guys need a decent chip, I recommend it :)
The R3 3300X made no sense in my region because the R5 3500X was available at the same or even lower price, and it has 6 physical cores (6C/6T > 4C/8T).
On the Intel side, there was the Xeon E-2126G at around the same price, and it has an IGP - although it requires a pin-mod and BIOS hack to run on a cheap consumer motherboard.
The 3300X is locally available here ($170), but almost at the price of a 10400F ($176). It's not worth it at that price unfortunately. All of the Ryzen chips here locally went up in price because everyone was buying them. I still see people advocating for the chips ignoring the competition when they are priced lower.
Lately I've been using a 10100f that was incredibly cheap and, coming from an FX 8350, it's a beast. And my power bill is now much more reasonable. Even paired with a high performance Nvidia gpu, the performance hit is close to imperceptible, for me at least.
Yes, agree totally, had a ryzen 3 3100 system for a week building it up for my nephew, gave it to him, then could not find ryzen cpu under 400 nz$ , Jesus what a shock, looked at intel stuff , they had a i3 10100f for $150nz and did a bit of research and is comparable, I am mightily impressed with what this thing does, runs rings around a ryzen 3 2200g with a 1060 discrete card which was my old system, very happy with the price,performance , you can't argue and with amd start price for ryzen 5 3600 at $400nz , sad to say, but amd have priced themselves out of the cheap gaming pc market....my how roles have reversed....
I was going to get a 3300x for my build but couldn’t find one anywhere, had to go for a 9400f. Still regret in now
The Ryzen 3300X was ultimately a better buy for current Entry Level Workstations in comparison to the similarly performing 8600K, 9600K, and Ryzen 3500X (though those come with significantly worse Framerate Consistency in Gaming, despite 06 Core/06 Thread chips performing roughly on par with their 04C/08T counterparts); in reality, Four Core chips with Multithreading will ultimately be the better buy for Generation VIII Gaming and earlier than a Six Core without MT ever will, and this Zen II CPU will hold its worth more than the 3500X that both this and the Ryzen PRO 4350G will still have some relevance in the Asian market, where they will still bear more presence.
With Alder Lake coming in the next 064 days though, this will be the worst time to opt for getting a Quad Core chip from Intel or AMD if you intend to get a DDR IV~based platform, and I wouldn't be surprised if there will be some cost effective chips coming from Generation XII Core i that will serve with better Price to Performance (if the Tray Price for a 12900KF at 0579$ USD is anything to go by, expect there to be price drops from AMD if this chip truly is near the 5950X's Multithreaded performance and ultimately having better AI capabilities than any of Zen III); while the i03 units probably won't arrive until the Locked chips come out in the months to follow, the simple presence of the 12600KF alone at 0263.I5$ will force many lower end parts to see their prices tank, either that or it'll make looking for a 3300X or 4350G inconsiderable due to both of those chips being hard to get below 02I0 to 0260$ on the Second Hand market, we'll have to watch closely for how well the Alder Lake i05 (K Series) parts settle but it may very well put a major dent into considering a Ryzen 03 during AMD's ongoing availability factor.
Managed to buy one in Thailand a month ago for 120 euros, brand new in box from reputable retailer, really happy with it so far.
I got one on launch day, still going strong today with my GTX 1650 Super, I remember the good days when the 3300x was £120 and the GTX 1650 Super was around £150, sadly those days are far gone now but hopefully things will improve at the budget end soon (maybe one day haha)
3100 on a 1650 super. My rig
My advice: buy your GPU's NOW before the prices go EVEN HIGHER!
@@jeffzebert4982 I can only hope the crypto to fall.
I can easily find these in Australia 🤨🤨
CCL Computers used to sell 3300X CPU but only with Motherboard and Ram Bundles at a inflated prices and only on their eBay page (So they didn't get targeted by bad review bombs on their actual site.). When those ran out they sold 3100X CPUs then 3200G and 3400G. They seems to be limping with the Ryzen 1200 and 1600 now. They were called out on Facebook for their prices when people started to notice they would spike the price up to 200% making it so the unsuspecting novice would buy the hyper inflated bundle thinking it was a good buy due to the many purchases. (I saw some poor soul buy a £190 Bundle for £370 in the Purchase history..) They said it was a price algorithm they used, we said BS and wiped our hands clean of them and discontinued business with them.
I've got my i3-10100f, about equivalent performance, and cheaper.
yes here i can buy 10100f for 76 euro
I have a 10105f... even some more performance (and with a b560 chipset with 3200 mhz DDR4 memory even more. That chipset does benefit from the faster memory)
@@erikkarsies4851 I'm on a cheapo H410A Pro, it gets the job done, can't really afford to spend that much more anyway :)
Got one for 140 for my sister a few months ago
I have seen a lot of 3300x in stock for msrp on allegro a few months back, when I waz buldig my pc; I couldn't decide between the 3300x, the 3600, and the 2700x, so I picked the 30% over msrp 3600.
i agree 4c/8t cpus are are acceptable at reasonable price, however for modern games i consider it to be minimum. for modern games imo 4c/8t is minimum, 6c/12t is optimal and 8c/16t is perfect.
Both at stock speeds, the 3300X beats the i7-7700k. The 3300X was just priced badly. Where I live (Philippines), it was priced around Php 7500($150) while a R5 3500 can be bought for 8,500($170). The R5 3500 was better overall bcause of 6cores/6threads. If lucky, one could get the R5 3600 for 10,500($210) here.