A perfect platform for upgrades. $100 for a set of zoom 4 piston hydraulics. $120 for a nice rear shock, $30 for new bars, $100 for street tires, then just add a battery(ies) to suit your needs. The money you save can upgrade this bike AND have money left over.
K Got the X50. It's a lot of bike for the money. You won't believe this, but I got it for $943 Canadian which is about $700 American plus tax and shipping. It's the "upgraded" model with the mag wheels. Also the controller is now better packed in there so there is no rattle. The welds aren't that pretty but I've seen worse on other bikes and the powder coat on the frame hides them so well unless you're looking for them you'll probably not notice. There is one thing however once you unclip the limiter wire you should go into the settings and change "P14" current limit from 15amps(750w max) to 20amps(1000w max), or if you like 22amps(1100w max). It wakes the bike up a bit. The biggest downside is the small 14amp battery. It has a 2.5amp charge BMS so I suggest getting a 3amp charger to cut charge times(don't worry the BMS will only take what it can). I've ordered their larger 17amp battery as I did a cost analysis and for $260 USD with free shipping I can use both batteries and have a total of 31Ah if I carry one of them in a napsack. Gimpy but I've done worse. Instead of buying a whole new large battery and canning the little one. Hey, might as well use it. The brakes are surprisingly good for mechanical but I have some Zoom cable actuated hydraulics sitting here once the bike has been broken in. I may just use the mechanicals brakes pads and cheap out and when they need replacing just swap the calipers. This thing is fast. Normally in the bike lanes in downtown Toronto you can't realistically go over 22mph which that is even too fast (PAS3). However if the bike lanes is jammed to the tits and I need to pass a bunch of bikes, or if there is no bike lane I can pop it on PAS4 and get around 45kph or PAS5 and get around 50kph which is max street speed in the city. Fastest I've done is 53kph down a small hill. On a full charge with no load the bike will pull to 55.9kph or 35mph. Obviously it's not going to go 35mph with a person on it but 30mph is doable, or close to it. I've put mirrors and a better kickstand on there for safety. The kickstand that it comes with is not terrible but the one I bought has a larger footprint for better parking on hills or soft terrain. If you are easy on the throttle and mostly use PAS3/4 I figure you can get around 35-45kms on the dinky battery. So maybe 22 to 28 miles, maybe 30 miles if you're not going too crazy. I'll do a review on my tech channel before I start modifying it with a break down of costs. To fix all these little things doesn't cost a lot, except the battery. Who knows maybe you're fine with a smaller battery if you just commute a few miles each day. It's a decent battery but with a 1000w peak it can eat it up pretty quickly. Get the faster charger, you'll be charging a lot if you drive like me 🙂. Oh, and I plan on buying a coil rear shock with a lighter 850 pound spring and rebound and preload adjustment for around $65 CDN. It's a 165mm if anyone wants to know. The rear is like a rock, it works but maybe if I was 330 pounds(max weight) I would use it. PAS Speeds no load(what the bike is trying to reach)full charge. PAS 1 - 20km/h....12.5mph PAS 2 - 30km/h....18.6mph PAS 3 - 40km/h....25mph PAS 4 - 50km/h....31mph PAS 5 - 55.9km/h....34.7mph From 3 to 4 is where I mostly ride as I can cruise in 3 and move along in the city bike lanes smartly then hit "turbo" PAS4 and pass pretty much anything.
@@chrissinclair8705 Very important tip for this bike that I learned recently: The rear shock isn't anywhere near as stiff as you think it is. They overtorque the hell out of the bolt that holds both pieces of the frame together at the bottom and lets it articulate. Pop the plastic covers off with a razor blade and loosen them up, and suddenly you have rear suspension that actually does something
This gives me hope to have a full suspension ebike. It's now cheaper than my old ANCHEER. And lower and thus easier for a 70 year old to mount and dismount. I'd want to lose the super knobby tires.
Reply to self: Found a dual suspension ebike I can afford, It's like a poor mans Lectric. It's a Vivi FM20 $520 . Too soon to review it, but it ticks all the boxes for my 10 miles a day over rough roads and bike paths.
I JUST BOUGHT A X50 OUT OF THE BOX WITH ALUMINUM MEG WHEELS FOR 669.OO$ 100,00 SHIPING YES I WENT THERE IT.THANK YOU GREAT TIPS ON THE VIDIO GOD BLESS BROTHER
Peace be with you😌 Thank you soo much for DYNOing the PEV's. By performing these test, consumers might be better able to judge the bike's capabilities depending on their requirements. Please keep making video's such as this one. Thanks again.
This was an interesting video indeed! And if I was a betting guy, I'd bet the X50 will do great regarding sales. Heck, grab one of these to enjoy right now. Then over time you can replace any questionable parts with your choice of upgrades. Sounds rather win-win to me!
Valuable information that will help inform future resale prices and more certain specifications. The road work traffic converging into one lane, perfectly illustrated the need for e bikes needing high speeds at certain times.
I just ordered one through Amazon they had two left I'm excited great video I think I made the right choice 66 years old I'm not going to be doing much craziness on it
I love that you have a board with all the stats. Reminds me of top gear. Is there any way you could link a google doc excel sheet in your description to all of this info as you update it? Or something similar
@@Area13ebikes awesome. What do you think of adding in the cost of these bikes, and comparing it with the power they produce? "Watt/Torque per dollar" amount would be cool.
Rear shock tip...1: take out shock. 2: loosen rear sway arm until it drops by gravity and NOW PUT IN SHOCK (factoty over tighten to instal shock easier) 3: now will operate as supposed to...losen arm by allen bolt under plastic cover by crank with chain 6mm i belive...this will transform your ride belive me brothers
7:10 how do you even change it from 1 to 4 or 2 to 3 like the assist and if you keep it at 1 does that mean it goes 25km/15mph and 4/5 goes 45kmh/28mph
Great, fair review; I don't know how they accomplished this for $790 (Amazon price) even with low end suspension parts. I'm glad that I don't like mini bikes or would be tempted if only to discover how long it would last.
No reason you couldnt ride this bike around for doing errands and go to work if its just 3-4 miles each way. Take it out and explore your area during nice days. As fast as your average gas moped was in the day.
Happy to see you located some info on your condition, and it seems like a beef-only diet is the recipe for autoimmune conditions, although I haven't heard whether it's good for RA (rheumatoid arthritis) etc. Are you familiar with Cassandra Peterson?
Hi, I just bought this bike, but the 48V 12.8ah battery seems a bit poor, would you recommend a 21700 15/20ah for more miles, and a little more speed? Also I heard from some owners, that from the display you could change the value 48V to 52/54.6V, do you know if the change can improve the maximum speed? Thanks in advance, bye bye.
if moped type with no adjustable seat hight for a taller person is no good--had a euy like this --could not pedal--i am 6'2"--gave it to my friends daughter--she is 5'3"--
I have a hyper scorpion and I want to try and make it faster , do you have a controller that can bump up the speed . I've also been thinking about buying a 72 volt Wired e bike just for the speed .
I still don’t understand why they bother to put pedals on this sort of thing. Unless the rider is very short, the pedals are useless. Perhaps if it didn’t have pedals it couldn’t be classed as an e-bike?
The strangest thing! The electric scooters on Amazon are extremely powerful compared to ebikes! Yet kids can get their hands on the scooters. They can go up to 60 MPH! And great range as well. These E-bikes are far behind! And I think I may have a better deal than this Jansno. Awaiting its arrival soon :D
cons: sweep on bars too much, welds are apparently crappy non-robot human cheap labor done very messy which could be a concern, cable brakes, tires like others so much thin rubber between cleats will probably cause flats easily, steel frame may rust in spots after light rain potentially
Are you receiving excellent healthcare ??? Every time you publish a video it seems you continue to lose weight , my wife seems to be concerned about your health !!!
Great to see you getting around better Kyle, not a bad bike for $850, I like it includes turn signals, ALL eBikes should have them IMO!
A perfect platform for upgrades. $100 for a set of zoom 4 piston hydraulics. $120 for a nice rear shock, $30 for new bars, $100 for street tires, then just add a battery(ies) to suit your needs. The money you save can upgrade this bike AND have money left over.
Make a video to show how you added these upgrades..
Hope do an upgrade on battery this bike ..
K Got the X50. It's a lot of bike for the money. You won't believe this, but I got it for $943 Canadian which is about $700 American plus tax and shipping. It's the "upgraded" model with the mag wheels. Also the controller is now better packed in there so there is no rattle. The welds aren't that pretty but I've seen worse on other bikes and the powder coat on the frame hides them so well unless you're looking for them you'll probably not notice. There is one thing however once you unclip the limiter wire you should go into the settings and change "P14" current limit from 15amps(750w max) to 20amps(1000w max), or if you like 22amps(1100w max). It wakes the bike up a bit. The biggest downside is the small 14amp battery. It has a 2.5amp charge BMS so I suggest getting a 3amp charger to cut charge times(don't worry the BMS will only take what it can). I've ordered their larger 17amp battery as I did a cost analysis and for $260 USD with free shipping I can use both batteries and have a total of 31Ah if I carry one of them in a napsack. Gimpy but I've done worse. Instead of buying a whole new large battery and canning the little one. Hey, might as well use it. The brakes are surprisingly good for mechanical but I have some Zoom cable actuated hydraulics sitting here once the bike has been broken in. I may just use the mechanicals brakes pads and cheap out and when they need replacing just swap the calipers. This thing is fast. Normally in the bike lanes in downtown Toronto you can't realistically go over 22mph which that is even too fast (PAS3). However if the bike lanes is jammed to the tits and I need to pass a bunch of bikes, or if there is no bike lane I can pop it on PAS4 and get around 45kph or PAS5 and get around 50kph which is max street speed in the city. Fastest I've done is 53kph down a small hill. On a full charge with no load the bike will pull to 55.9kph or 35mph. Obviously it's not going to go 35mph with a person on it but 30mph is doable, or close to it. I've put mirrors and a better kickstand on there for safety. The kickstand that it comes with is not terrible but the one I bought has a larger footprint for better parking on hills or soft terrain. If you are easy on the throttle and mostly use PAS3/4 I figure you can get around 35-45kms on the dinky battery. So maybe 22 to 28 miles, maybe 30 miles if you're not going too crazy. I'll do a review on my tech channel before I start modifying it with a break down of costs. To fix all these little things doesn't cost a lot, except the battery. Who knows maybe you're fine with a smaller battery if you just commute a few miles each day. It's a decent battery but with a 1000w peak it can eat it up pretty quickly. Get the faster charger, you'll be charging a lot if you drive like me 🙂. Oh, and I plan on buying a coil rear shock with a lighter 850 pound spring and rebound and preload adjustment for around $65 CDN. It's a 165mm if anyone wants to know. The rear is like a rock, it works but maybe if I was 330 pounds(max weight) I would use it.
PAS Speeds no load(what the bike is trying to reach)full charge.
PAS 1 - 20km/h....12.5mph
PAS 2 - 30km/h....18.6mph
PAS 3 - 40km/h....25mph
PAS 4 - 50km/h....31mph
PAS 5 - 55.9km/h....34.7mph
From 3 to 4 is where I mostly ride as I can cruise in 3 and move along in the city bike lanes smartly then hit "turbo" PAS4 and pass pretty much anything.
Can you share upgrade links
@@chrissinclair8705 Very important tip for this bike that I learned recently: The rear shock isn't anywhere near as stiff as you think it is. They overtorque the hell out of the bolt that holds both pieces of the frame together at the bottom and lets it articulate. Pop the plastic covers off with a razor blade and loosen them up, and suddenly you have rear suspension that actually does something
This gives me hope to have a full suspension ebike. It's now cheaper than my old ANCHEER. And lower and thus easier for a 70 year old to mount and dismount. I'd want to lose the super knobby tires.
Reply to self: Found a dual suspension ebike I can afford, It's like a poor mans Lectric. It's a Vivi FM20 $520 . Too soon to review it, but it ticks all the boxes for my 10 miles a day over rough roads and bike paths.
I JUST BOUGHT A X50 OUT OF THE BOX WITH ALUMINUM MEG WHEELS FOR 669.OO$ 100,00 SHIPING YES I WENT THERE IT.THANK YOU GREAT TIPS ON THE VIDIO GOD BLESS BROTHER
А де купував
Peace be with you😌 Thank you soo much for DYNOing the PEV's. By performing these test, consumers might be better able to judge the bike's capabilities depending on their requirements. Please keep making video's such as this one. Thanks again.
This was an interesting video indeed! And if I was a betting guy, I'd bet the X50 will do great regarding sales. Heck, grab one of these to enjoy right now. Then over time you can replace any questionable parts with your choice of upgrades. Sounds rather win-win to me!
Kyle always great to see you in videos hope you are well... as always a great review of a budget bike...
Valuable information that will help inform future resale prices and more certain specifications.
The road work traffic converging into one lane, perfectly illustrated the need for e bikes needing high speeds at certain times.
I just ordered one through Amazon they had two left I'm excited great video I think I made the right choice 66 years old I'm not going to be doing much craziness on it
Iv been waiting to buy this bike and watching this review helped me make mi mind up.
I love that you have a board with all the stats. Reminds me of top gear. Is there any way you could link a google doc excel sheet in your description to all of this info as you update it? Or something similar
Area13ebikes.com/dyno
This week's bikes aren't added yet but they will be soon.
@@Area13ebikes amazing. thank you!
@@Area13ebikes awesome. What do you think of adding in the cost of these bikes, and comparing it with the power they produce? "Watt/Torque per dollar" amount would be cool.
The money you save you could easily upgrade the brakes and battery and still save a bunch of money. It's a good platform for upgrades.
Rear shock tip...1: take out shock. 2: loosen rear sway arm until it drops by gravity and NOW PUT IN SHOCK (factoty over tighten to instal shock easier) 3: now will operate as supposed to...losen arm by allen bolt under plastic cover by crank with chain 6mm i belive...this will transform your ride belive me brothers
7:10 how do you even change it from 1 to 4 or 2 to 3 like the assist and if you keep it at 1 does that mean it goes 25km/15mph and 4/5 goes 45kmh/28mph
Great, fair review; I don't know how they accomplished this for $790 (Amazon price) even with low end suspension parts. I'm glad that I don't like mini bikes or would be tempted if only to discover how long it would last.
This is amazing …save so much money on car insurance and maintenance., just use this go to work and stuff save major money
No reason you couldnt ride this bike around for doing errands and go to work if its just 3-4 miles each way. Take it out and explore your area during nice days. As fast as your average gas moped was in the day.
Happy to see you located some info on your condition, and it seems like a beef-only diet is the recipe for autoimmune conditions, although I haven't heard whether it's good for RA (rheumatoid arthritis) etc. Are you familiar with Cassandra Peterson?
Way better for the price point than an Engwie M20
That's a really great price!
Hi Kyle. You're moving well! How come you changed location?
I know mech brakes are inferior to hydro...But did you bead them in ? By the time you would have, now the cable is stretched...just sayin’...
What is the thing you got your keys in??
Where can I buy the turn signals this bike has? I want to put it on my ebike
Search turn signals for bikes on Amazon and you'll find some similar options.
What were the other bikes you had in mind when you were taking about having a little more wiggle room in your budget?
I just looked that bike is now 679 on amazon now I might bite at that price🤔
i think there is a 100 delivery charge,so i think the 779 is the price
Hi, I just bought this bike, but the 48V 12.8ah battery seems a bit poor, would you recommend a 21700 15/20ah for more miles, and a little more speed? Also I heard from some owners, that from the display you could change the value 48V to 52/54.6V, do you know if the change can improve the maximum speed? Thanks in advance, bye bye.
a better bike is the ridstar q20 20 amp hour 1000 watt version
if moped type with no adjustable seat hight for a taller person is no good--had a euy like this --could not pedal--i am 6'2"--gave it to my friends daughter--she is 5'3"--
Today 2023 11 07 it seems to be $100 less than $849. Prices change fast.
My next "budget" ebike will be one of those Ozark hardtales with a bbshd slapped on.
I have a hyper scorpion and I want to try and make it faster , do you have a controller that can bump up the speed . I've also been thinking about buying a 72 volt Wired e bike just for the speed .
Sorry not for the hyper scorpion
I’m short perfect fit peddling .. but tippy toe on ground..
Can you show how to unlock the speed?
Dang Kyle... lookin thin bro but good to see ya keepin on!...
I thinking about buying this bike .
Is it ok to use it while raining?is the battery waterprof?
What’s the range??
How do you pull the seat off?
👨🔧
Gereedschap 🛠️
damn bro how much time you got left?
Hello from Italy, I am tall 1,82m, can this be a problem for pedaling?
I think for this money you can't buy anything like this. Thank you very much!
how tall are you bro
You look so much different than in previous videos. Are you losing too much weight?
Back to my early 20s weight.
Just got one for $805 on Amazon tax and shipping
9:57 tu été a 60 km/h😂😮
I still don’t understand why they bother to put pedals on this sort of thing. Unless the rider is very short, the pedals are useless. Perhaps if it didn’t have pedals it couldn’t be classed as an e-bike?
In many cases yes pedals are required. I'd rather have an ebike thats hard to pedal than one you can't pedal at all.
But I’d certainly rather have an e-bike that has an adjustable seat and appropriate handlebars and pedals are good for something.
@@philipershler420just shut
The strangest thing! The electric scooters on Amazon are extremely powerful compared to ebikes! Yet kids can get their hands on the scooters. They can go up to 60 MPH! And great range as well. These E-bikes are far behind! And I think I may have a better deal than this Jansno. Awaiting its arrival soon :D
Goodluck riding your scooter in snow 😎
Nice intro bike for someone .
I'd be happy with it able to do 30mph😅
I've got mine for $620+tax
cons: sweep on bars too much, welds are apparently crappy non-robot human cheap labor done very messy which could be a concern, cable brakes, tires like others so much thin rubber between cleats will probably cause flats easily, steel frame may rust in spots after light rain potentially
Gotta give it to China, amazing bike!
Hopefully, its ACTUALLY water resistant….
🇺🇸
Are you receiving excellent healthcare ??? Every time you publish a video it seems you continue to lose weight , my wife seems to be concerned about your health !!!
Thanks for caring! I haven't posted an update for a while on that, but this will answer a lot of questions about that. www.youtube.com/@CarnivoreKyle