aside from some newly designed suits i think just drawing them with more detail was all it took for them to be taken more seriously animation equivalent of camera direction also makes em feel more terrifying
@@spartana1116 Not even that, look at the quality of animation in 0080 which came out in 1989, just ten years after the original Gundam. 0083 and 8th MS weren’t far ahead either. IMO the late 80s to mid 90s was the peak of anime, the Japanese economy was roaring and money was being thrown around left and right. When the good times ended it’s been a slow decline since IMO. Yea we have digital now but CGI mechas and characters look wonky to me and even the hand drawn art is too clean and inking too perfect that the image ends up looking bland and sterile.
The animation was so good. The Dom was always one of my favorite mobile suits. My favorite variation is the Dom Tropen and the Green Dom from war in the pocket. But the way they made the Dom look here bad ass. Just like the zakus in earlier episodes felt they had a pretty cool look to them. At least to me they look somewhat different than the ones shown in these last few episodes.
We need more Gundam series/games like 08th MS. There's far too many bajillion missiles crazy experimental gundam series out there already. To me this is the best the series has to offer because it feels so much more believable, which is impressive considering the subject material
My dream Gundam series would be similar to your idea. A 50 episode series like 08th Ms team of the regular soldiers in the one year war. Follow a zeon and federation squad with equal time for both throughout the war and showcase not just the mobile suits but the fighters and tanks and infantry. Sort of like Ms igloo and some of the episodes in 08th Ms team like with the Magella tanks. But keep it serious in tone for the most part with the animation style of 90s and that would be my dream Gundam show lmao
@@HamanKarn567 animation style of the 90's? Best tv series example I can think of is Cowboy Bebop . 08th MS Team's level of animation is no different than a theatrical anime film due to being OVA (released only for home video, never meant for tv). For tv series, you got a schedule and deadline to meet, crunching is inevitable unless you have a proper management and planning. Animators are still human beings, you know.
@@HamanKarn567Closest i can think off that can offer this was the Lost War Chronicles game where you play a specific squad from both sides. I think that story was ok... although LWC was kinda a bit on the BS side where you and your squad were awarded THE top tier units from both sides (i.e Revil personally assigns the testing of the GP01 to you... or Char himself awarding his custom Zaku II to you) ... but thats definitely more game experience than actual lore lmao Or Gundam Rise from the Ashes... the one featuring the White Dingo squad and the rivalry between Master and Vince ... that would be interesting to adapt PS: Master's full name is Master P. Rayer... which was taken from "master player"... which is your player character lol
Things pretty durable. The back sides not even damaged, only thing it lost is the head and the pilots probably still alive inside but stuck and probably knocked out.
Doms were built to be the ultimate ground mobile suit (before beam weapons were made). They were meant to be very well armored against cannon fire but still be incredibly fast.
@@KinVao Too true. I've been the ACE as a Support a few times so i must be doing something right. Either that or my team are THAT bad. :P th-cam.com/video/T23vINhuLYY/w-d-xo.html
I love that these are the more standard zeon MS in the closing act, the fact that they have brought F types instead of J types shows that they mean business
I like the weight of the suits in this interpretation. Always hate when giant robotic mech suits run around like they’re just normal people in plastic costumes
RIP to that Guntank crew. Rewatched this recently and totally forgot they saved Karen earlier. Then later she got tricked and outmaneuvered and the whole crew died. Heartbreaking.
Lucky the Guntank knew how to return a favor, or else Karen would die wondering how not to hit the reactor. Too bad the poor Guntank was Norris's mission.
So true Dom never walk most of the time. Unless your however jets are damaged (your pretty screwed in GBO2 when using a Dom after losing its legs) Kinda wonder why Bandai didn't make this Dom kit yet?
OMG I’ve been believing it took its own head off with the sword since I was 12 or 13 years old (I’m 33 now). How the hell I never saw the barrel of her gun before I don’t know.
Как же я ненавижу этих читеров на гусеницах с их 240-мм пушками. Единственное, что мне нравится в этих гробах на гусеницах - это то, как они взрываются.
Zeonic Front used this design of the Dom to represent the MS-09F Dom Funf, which was an error given that the design for the Dom Funf at the time was the design that was later retconned into the YMS-09R Prototype Rick-Dom Zwei... which is just plain stupid as far as I'm concerned.
Somewhat. With the supply chains broken and drying up around thus time it was a rarity to have a fully functional dom. You had some different variations in different theatres of war but usually only a handful per unit at best.
08th MS Team did an amazing job taking somewhat cartoony designs & updating them without really changing anything.
aside from some newly designed suits
i think just drawing them with more detail was all it took for them to be taken more seriously
animation equivalent of camera direction also makes em feel more terrifying
@@Nehfarius yeah a few decades of refinement
@@spartana1116 Not even that, look at the quality of animation in 0080 which came out in 1989, just ten years after the original Gundam. 0083 and 8th MS weren’t far ahead either. IMO the late 80s to mid 90s was the peak of anime, the Japanese economy was roaring and money was being thrown around left and right. When the good times ended it’s been a slow decline since IMO. Yea we have digital now but CGI mechas and characters look wonky to me and even the hand drawn art is too clean and inking too perfect that the image ends up looking bland and sterile.
Fun thing. The Dom funf looks suspiciously similar to the 8th team design.
@@mikeg2491 one piece currently has some high quality movie tier level animation
The animation was so good. The Dom was always one of my favorite mobile suits. My favorite variation is the Dom Tropen and the Green Dom from war in the pocket. But the way they made the Dom look here bad ass. Just like the zakus in earlier episodes felt they had a pretty cool look to them. At least to me they look somewhat different than the ones shown in these last few episodes.
That's OVA for you. Glorious theatrical film animation level and by being a Sunrise production, it always top notch.
0:36 ドムが歩くという貴重なシーン
"A precious scene where Dom walks"
Yeah, it sure is a rarity.
ドムだって 歩きたいときも
有りますよ！（ミケル口調で(ｫ
@@teeoatmark7062 "Even when you want to walk Dom
There is! (In Mikel tone (O)"
@@teeoatmark7062 ドムが？新型かぁ？！（byサンダースjr
言われてみれば・・・（眼鱗）
We need more Gundam series/games like 08th MS. There's far too many bajillion missiles crazy experimental gundam series out there already. To me this is the best the series has to offer because it feels so much more believable, which is impressive considering the subject material
My dream Gundam series would be similar to your idea. A 50 episode series like 08th Ms team of the regular soldiers in the one year war. Follow a zeon and federation squad with equal time for both throughout the war and showcase not just the mobile suits but the fighters and tanks and infantry. Sort of like Ms igloo and some of the episodes in 08th Ms team like with the Magella tanks. But keep it serious in tone for the most part with the animation style of 90s and that would be my dream Gundam show lmao
Sadly they wont ever spend much budget for a good Gundam game. Vs was OK, BO2 is enjoyable but clunky, New GB sucks, SD Alliance is average, etc....
@@HamanKarn567 animation style of the 90's? Best tv series example I can think of is Cowboy Bebop . 08th MS Team's level of animation is no different than a theatrical anime film due to being OVA (released only for home video, never meant for tv). For tv series, you got a schedule and deadline to meet, crunching is inevitable unless you have a proper management and planning. Animators are still human beings, you know.
@@HamanKarn567 Closest thing we got is Thunderbolt and I'm all for it
@@HamanKarn567Closest i can think off that can offer this was the Lost War Chronicles game where you play a specific squad from both sides. I think that story was ok... although LWC was kinda a bit on the BS side where you and your squad were awarded THE top tier units from both sides (i.e Revil personally assigns the testing of the GP01 to you... or Char himself awarding his custom Zaku II to you) ... but thats definitely more game experience than actual lore lmao
Or Gundam Rise from the Ashes... the one featuring the White Dingo squad and the rivalry between Master and Vince ... that would be interesting to adapt
PS: Master's full name is Master P. Rayer... which was taken from "master player"... which is your player character lol
The colour scheme is so grounded and realistic.
ジオン系モビルスーツで
肩に手を置いたり 目の位置を
動かして 会話したりしてると
デザインは完全にロボットなのに
謎に生物ぽい コミュニケーション感が
あって面白味を感じる
このシーンめちゃくちゃ好きです。ノリスがかっこいいーー
一応接触することで円滑な通信させてるって設定があったはず
パイロットスーツを着てると、生体電流だったかでわりと細かい動きが出来る、だったかな……
一部の機体はＡＩが搭載されてて、学習させるとハンドサインやお辞儀する、みたいな動作が可能
Ｚ期、特に３６０度リニアシートになると、パイロットの動きをトレースして頭の向きや機体の向きを変えられるようになってますね
なんかジオン系MSって愛嬌ありますよね～
この戦闘の後のカレンの「ジム頭はやめてくれジム頭は」てセリフ好き
後にザクの頭載っけたザクゼータなんて機体出てくるからジム頭も悪くない。(英語のゼットが使えないから不便)
なんか青いジム頭が目を真っ赤にしてこっちに突っ込んできます
@@tatchin2346 人違いですぅぅぅ〜！！
@@tatchin2346 そういえばあいつも便宜上ジム頭か……
Things pretty durable. The back sides not even damaged, only thing it lost is the head and the pilots probably still alive inside but stuck and probably knocked out.
Yeah, all the Dom MS are usually pretty well armored.
Doms were built to be the ultimate ground mobile suit (before beam weapons were made). They were meant to be very well armored against cannon fire but still be incredibly fast.
@@TheBigExclusive but beam exist to annihilate them
@@azizkalb8721 give them anti-beam coating, they'll be unstoppable.
@@thevioletlightning0139 would have been too expensive, i guess
08th is by far one of my favorites to date still. It made Gundam so much more "down to earth" lol then the rest
Same, it even features my favorite MS the RX-79 [G] Gundam Ground Type.
everyone was just a normal person fighting in a war, that made it hit different
08th and 0083 are the best by far
1:20 sometimes i forgot how durable Doms are when going up against Ballistic ammo,since they always gets shredded by Beam projectiles
ドムはいいデザインしてるよな〜
個人的にはジオンで一番好き
しかしこの時代の作画はすごいな
今見ても全く見劣りしないし、アニメーターの血の滲む努力が伝わってくる
見ている人の目が肥えとるから少しでも手を抜くとすぐにバレてしまうからです😮
都市戦をメインで行ったため監督はアニメーターに相当恨まれたそうです
0:48 ドムとグフカス並ぶのめっちゃカッコ良くない？
ドムがザクマシンガンを持っている構図がガンダム世界での既存兵器にはないモビルスーツの最大のメリットを現していると思う...
(武器の持ち替えの容易さによる高い汎用性)
ドムがジャイアントバズ抱えてないってのもロマンですよね！
物資が不足しているだけでは有るんでしょうけど。
@@M.H-u6x
ガンダム本編ですとグフがザクマシンガンを持っていたりしましたね...
〜ドムはまさに重量級汎用機という感じで好きですww
@@悪者松 あー！ザクマシンガン持ちのグフいましたね!確かに。
ゲームだとジャイアントバズ持ってる機体も有りますねー
グフのジャイアントバズ装備はファースト本編でもジャブロー降下作戦時にいたような？🤔❓
Zガンダムでもエゥーゴのジャブロー降下時にグフ飛行試験型がジャイアントバズ装備でしたね〜。
@@MasahikoInoue 飛行試験型いましたね！ティターンズが使用していたヤツですね
1:03-1:25 when your team cares about keeping their support safe in GBO2.
As a Support main; i always appreciate when teammates defend me.
A support can turn the tide of the battle. Always gotta keep them safe.
@@KinVao Too true.
I've been the ACE as a Support a few times so i must be doing something right.
Either that or my team are THAT bad. :P
th-cam.com/video/T23vINhuLYY/w-d-xo.html
Their either the crutch or the carry of the entire match. A strong and backed up support will turn the whole match around
@@fishpop most likely team bad
近距離からの砲撃でも爆破四散しないドムすき
対ヒルドルブのザクみたく上半身消し飛ぶぐらいしてもおかしくなさそうなのに硬い硬い
ザクやグフより重装甲だしな
流石ドムだ
強襲ガンタンクのポップガンとはいえコックピット周辺に近距離から喰らっても動けるしね…連邦のジムが実弾主体だったらやばかったのでは？
空砲撃ってパイロットとかシステムを衝撃でぶっ壊したのかと思ってた
Love how 08th turned a goofy looking into a scary badass.
Also love how these older showed have the head loss not be a instant disable.
I mean the pilot knows where the enemy is at so
「どう撃っても融合炉に当たっちまう！」
分かっていても自分が死ぬ直前のこの状況で冷静に撃たない判断をするってカレンすごいな、他のヘタレ連邦軍人なら撃ってそう。
どっかのリゼルのパイロットとは大違いだぁ…
@@加速主義者 08小隊はエースだぞ
目眩しされた直後に上って判断してジャイアント・バズの銃口狙い撃ちしたりしてるし、判断能力ものすごいですよねカレン
核融合炉とか怖すぎんだろMS
代わりにS2機関をドムに搭載しようぜ
搭載試験とかでコロニーが１つ２つ消えてなくなりそうなのはやめーや。
The 08th MS Team was a favorite of mine on Toonami back in the day.
Quiet, you're dating us! (But seriously, me too).
@@Keys879 Nice. 😊
That's where I saw it too 😋
@@residentrump3271 Epic.
I like how those last two episodes showed how the Zeon pilots outclassed the Feds by far, but they just were spread so thin they couldn't win.
This probably my favorite depiction of the Dom.
このドムカッコイイよね、肩とかカラーリングとか、HGのリバイブはこれをモデルにしてくれないかなー…
ユニコーンVerでいっぱい出たから08小隊Verでも少しでいいから出してくれても良いのにねー
@@唯の上級エンジニア兼通信技 それな⭐
出てきてもプレバン送りにされそうで怖いからせめてデザインだけでもモデルにしてほしいわ
ザクマシンガン装備のドムとかガンブレ以外で初めて見た
@@唯の上級エンジニア兼通信技 新しい作品偏重は仕方ないですけど欲しくなりますよねぇ
08ドムのカラーリングと肩の形状好きなのよね
RGドムがでるなら08ドムっぽくアレンジしてほしい
0080 a war in the pocket is my number 1 fav, 8th ms team is my second fav.
ザクマシンガンもまた似合っててカッコいい
市街地はドムの高機動が生かせないし、サイズ大きいから辛いよなー
Makes sense as to why I am Cooked in gbo2
0:48
Love it when mobile suits act like humans
They also have the contact comms so that's a good way to make them interact like people
You know shit just got real when a Dom is using a Zaku machinegun
I love that these are the more standard zeon MS in the closing act, the fact that they have brought F types instead of J types shows that they mean business
Those zaku II's are JC types, a slight variant of the J type.
@@dovenbullet0147 Is that the explanation for the ver ka/origin chest details?
@@neon_lavander no because the only suits he designed for this show are the gouf custom, gouf flight type and the gm early type.
ドム ジオン軍東南アジア部隊仕様
ジオン軍が開発した傑作兵器ドムのバリエーション機。
肩部などが若干オリジナルと異なっているが、特に性能面に違いはないと思われる。
また、ドムでは珍しくザク・マシンガンを装備した機体も登場。対空迎撃ならばジャイアント・バズより適切と判断したためか、物資不足のためか、はたまたパイロットの趣味と思われる。
劇中ではその機動力を遺憾無く発揮し、陸戦型ガンダムを追い詰めていた。
Love the the design of the Ms9b
重たい物が動いてる感が凄い！
MSの動きはこれくらいがリアル。
Finally built my Ikea display case. Now to put my gunpla inside 💠
Considering where the Dom fell on top of the Gundam in a interesting position
Nice.
Well it has no head no more
You kidding me right?
Always loved how they designed the look of the Zeon suits in 08th MS, Evil and jacked on roids.
What I always notice about this Dom, is how it's usually pinkish eye, is dark red here.
1:16
いやどんだけ肝が据わってるのこの人…
1:16 Never turn your back on an enemy support!
ガンタンクの砲撃食らっても倒れるだけのドム硬すぎね？？？
重MSの頑丈さは流石だがパイロットは衝撃で気絶してそうだ。
I like the weight of the suits in this interpretation. Always hate when giant robotic mech suits run around like they’re just normal people in plastic costumes
RIP to that Guntank crew. Rewatched this recently and totally forgot they saved Karen earlier. Then later she got tricked and outmaneuvered and the whole crew died. Heartbreaking.
こうして見ると、やっぱMSってデカイんだな
「どう撃っても融合炉にあたっちまう！」
からの
(後ろからドツきゃ、大丈夫だろ)
と、さりげなくヤバい撃ち方するガンキャノンが大好きです
融合炉に当たっても爆発しませんよ。
融合が停止するだけです。
分裂とは違いますので。
量産型ガンタンクですよー
@@面-f5q そういえば、何でガンキャノンなんてコメしたんだろ。
ガンタンクでしたね。ガンキャノンに燃える趣味はなかった筈なんだけど
ってか当たったのに穴すら空いてないとか装甲固すぎぃ！
@@ゆっくりユニコーン やはりジオニックよりツィマッドが優れている！
It's scary to see that they usually hover when they walk
I really wish we had another Gundam series that focus on tactics
I love Karen's face at the end, just nearly got impaled by a DOM and still like "don't me GM Head Twats" xD
What i like about dom variant is their hover booster, bulky ms but so agile, example move like black tri stars jetstream att
Lucky the Guntank knew how to return a favor, or else Karen would die wondering how not to hit the reactor. Too bad the poor Guntank was Norris's mission.
機動戦が得意なドムが防空戦に従事してるってのがこの基地のMS残存数が少ないって証だと思うの
ドムににもうちょいで殺られる場面だってのに冷静に報告出来るカレンの肝の据わりっぷり好き
I like that it has a machine gun
「どう撃っても融合炉に当たっちまう！」
至近距離で撃つと融合炉の誘爆で巻き添えも喰らいかねない。
MSは融合炉自体が危険なので、ワザと爆発させて施設の破壊などにも用意られます。
He must've been on the narcotics cos his eye has turned red.
Also seeing a Dom walk is a rarity.
HGUC when?
So true Dom never walk most of the time. Unless your however jets are damaged (your pretty screwed in GBO2 when using a Dom after losing its legs)
Kinda wonder why Bandai didn't make this Dom kit yet?
Another Dom walking scene is in Gundam Build Fighters Try, when Sekai used the Dom, he walked it before discovered that he can hover the Dom too.
続き：「ジム頭はよしてくれよ、ジム頭は」
The only time a Dom is actually shown walking 🤩
懐かしの、ジム頭‼️
何気にドムがザクマシンガンを持っている描写が深い
For just basically having an eye for a face Zeon mobile suits have a lot of expressions.
I always thought the dom pulled the sword so fast it hit his head. Not that she shot his head off
OMG I’ve been believing it took its own head off with the sword since I was 12 or 13 years old (I’m 33 now). How the hell I never saw the barrel of her gun before I don’t know.
The MS09 Rick Dom is imposing and hilarious at the same time. 😂
Rick dom is for space use, dom is ground use. Don't confuse them.
I made a Dom with newtype capabilities in Gundam Breaker 3. It has Zeong's arms and funnel racks for all range attacks. I call it...Psycho Dom
MS-09R4 - psycommu dom
I need one of these to make a Dom Funf for Mobile Suit Skirmish.
A Rick Dom 2, on Earth?! I thought they were a space superiority mobile suit? Doms are clutch. They were the Tiger Tanks of Zeon mobile suits.
0:36貴重なドムの歩行シーン
やっぱ０８は最高なんだよなあ
このタイプのドムをキット化して欲しい…
とても分かります。
色味とデザインがいいですよね
@@hamutarou_29Q さん
黒い三連星のドムは宇宙用にも換装出来るので08小隊のは
陸戦型ドム
って感じします
0:36
The first time I've seen a Dom walk with it's own legs, and that's kinda weird.
「どう撃っても融合炉に当たっちまう！」ですが、腕を撃てば融合炉に当たらないと思います。
この量産カラー好きやわ
頭部も小さくてバランスいいし
あと効果音はやっぱ旧版やな
ツイマッド社製でもジオニックのマシンガンもてるのなかなかに汎用性高いよなぁ
this is why the damn raids need to focus on the supports... the dom should've had that kill.
No wonder war only last one year, it just like German in ww2 but without any strategy nor tactic.
泥臭い戦闘こそガンダムや。ダサかっこいいって言葉がよく似合う
Ngl wish we had a Dom HG kit for this look
Karen: Yeah, but call me GM head again and you'll regret it.
Dom with Pro pilot : yeah whenever
At that close range, if only Karen had head vulcans...
But oh wait, it's GM head 😂
The RX-79[G]Gundam also don't have them anyway. The vulcan actually positioned in chest instead on the head.
「大丈夫か？ジム頭」のところ大好き。
I really wish we could have seen the Gyan in the 08th ms team art style
Ohhhh boy, it's public once again. Yay
ザクマシンガンを装備したドムめちゃくちゃ好き
グフ系が一番好き
Also the trigger finger is cool
赤いモノアイすき
not sure getting taken out by a Guntank is considered a humiliation lol.
基地のドムと量産型ガンタンクに撃たれたドムは別の機体とパイロットなのかな？ケルゲレンに載せても仕方ないしな
その後のジム頭のやり取りも欲しかったな😄
グフカス・タームはかっこいいな
It replaced the gouf but the gouf still looks better
Simple, clean 2D animation from almost 30 years ago is somehow 1000 times better than modern CGI. The absolute state of this world.
The 'simple, clean 2D' cost bajillion yens to produce.
Как же я ненавижу этих читеров на гусеницах с их 240-мм пушками. Единственное, что мне нравится в этих гробах на гусеницах - это то, как они взрываются.
この時点で敵の狙いがガンタンクだとわかる
量産型ガンタンクはベース機と違って上半身(砲塔部)が旋回出来るからもうちょい早く撃てたと思うが、まぁ野暮ってもんか
0:43 0:48
モノアイの動きが可愛らしいドム
Thank god Lockon was here
Zeonic Front used this design of the Dom to represent the MS-09F Dom Funf, which was an error given that the design for the Dom Funf at the time was the design that was later retconned into the YMS-09R Prototype Rick-Dom Zwei... which is just plain stupid as far as I'm concerned.
So they made two errors one after another before they finally managed to correct it.
Dom's were rare at this time, no?
They were meant to be produced replacing the zaku ii ground type and gouf
Also they never get to produced them in large numbers in the ground cause zeon was way too focuse on experimental MSs
Somewhat. With the supply chains broken and drying up around thus time it was a rarity to have a fully functional dom. You had some different variations in different theatres of war but usually only a handful per unit at best.
o8th team is favorite 1 year side story, while war being concluded in space, we see how concluded on earth!!!!!!!!!!!!
定期的に見に来てる人🙋♂️
Dom got rank pulled.
重厚感あって好き
how the hell did zeon build a whole base the size of a mountain in less than 1 year
They probably have fancy asteroid mining equipment.