By the time you finished that extravagant setup and explanation, I'm done. Never removed cores and it's plenty fast for 5T and under or 15 lbs of refrigerant. If you are changing out a system, lay a wet towel on top of the recovery tank, put a fan on it to keep it cool and start disconnecting electrical, pulling blowers/heats out of air handler, unhook duct work.
I find a huge problem with the many of these type videos, especially on the recovery, vacuum and charge of refrigerant, that many of them have enough differences on detailed procedures, and that anyone trying to learn the absolute correct procedures to prevent future premature failures would not have any guarantees from any that these videos will give them the best possible results. I've seen this in all the trades, but this is one of those procedures that seems to be much more critical than other trades have to deal with if things are NOT done properly.
I wish you be my teacher ..I love the way you teach .. Thank you for all your videos .all I know about AC I learned with you and not with my teacher at school.. Thank you so much.. GOD BLESS YOU ..
This is amazing. I did have a question as, I was taught something slightly different. When you are purging the air in the service lines, before allowing refrigerant to enter, why did you not lossen the hose to the taken to allow air to escape as you open the megaflow valves. I was taught that air can mix with the refrigerant if you do it that way, thus essentially making your uncontaminated bottle now contaminated. Am I inaccurate?
At 5:45 you mention regarding the refrigerant transfer you mention "unless it's from the same owner". You mean vendor in regards to refrigerant/oil content or system owner in regards to legislation or rules prohibiting refrigerant (freon maybe) transfers. Great content!
Excellent video, very well explained, I have a cuestión: I missing the part that you said that the hose have to be connected to the tank liquid valve port, I think there’s not color codes for the liquid side valves or knobs. Thank again for this great Video
For vacuuming a system down it can make a difference with a large can vacuum pump. With some Appion vacuum hoses, and accutools core removal tools, and a 10off pump….I can have a micron reading so low in minutes. It Would blow your mind how fast it is truly. Now for recovery I don’t see this set up being any faster. I’ve seen guys put the recovery tank in a 5 gallon bucket with ice, and recover it faster through a manifold.
That’s not always true as it is not easy recovering a unit down to its motor oil (compressor oil) .. The majority of time its simply Air .. and if any oil was to leave the unit and enter any recovery unit you will hear its compressor “screeching” from time to time during the recovery ..
Thank you for the videos. It helping me a lot as a new technician. I have this nasco split AC that sends power to the outdoor after after 10 minutes of putting it on. The outdoor unit works for 5 seconds and goes off for another 10 minutes. When the out door unit is on , the indoor fan goes off till the outdoor goes of again. Please what may be the problem?
Out here in California, San Francisco , minisplits, Mitsubishi in particular. I would love to see you do a full Mitsubishi, Samsung, or Fujitsu install.
Thankful for you craig .Perfect explanation . Just I have a question when said 2 or 4 at that prrussre you stop recovery machine it was 2 , 4 psig over or below the 0 psiag . Thankful for you dude
This video was not all that excellent and actually it could be a little confusing for the novice or someone such as yourself (no disrespect) .. the hose set up was over kill, he did not use a manifold, and the procedure was done kind of out of order ..
Beautiful tutorial! Clear and concise as always. Kind of a random questions: Why is there a minimum and maximum line set length for systems? (traditional and mini-splits) I would think that making the line set as short as possible would be ideal for similar reasons to why you would want to minimize your vacuum hose length. Do systems not function properly if the line sets are too long or short?
This was NOT a good tutorial .. over kill and not properly explaining the procedure correctly .. as far as the procedure he would have not been successful actually recovering that unit and you ALWAYS recover the unit to a slight vacuum (pass zero psig into the mercury inches)
Just bought your book on Amazon. Looking forward to getting it tomorrow. Question: Why were there 10 pounds in the system? 4 pounds (right?) over the manufacturer's plate.
Hi Greg, can you give me the link to the 1/4" x 3/8" x 3/8" tee, the plug pieces for the hoses and the pressure gauge, that would be great, love your videos, thanks
Watching this trying to learn something. my scenario is for Car AC, slightly different than this scenario. My question is can I hook a black hose from red port of recovery machine to the tank in my scenario or it needs to be a specific color?
Believe me I do understand the larger hose thing but it's still pulling through 1/4 inch ports. I worked at a public utility so there was never a need for rushing , as soon a we hooked all that up it would be BREAK TIME!!!🤣😂🤣😂 Always looking for new and useful information which this channel Always provides, and for that I do thank you! Much appreciated!!! 🍺🍺🍺🥃🥃🍿👍🏻 Stay safe. Retired (werk'n) keyboard super tech. Wear your safety glasses.
Buy a variety of hand & some power tools first. Your company may or may not provide you with essential HVAC related equipment (Recovery machine, Vacuum pump, Torch kit, etc), Some stuff you'll likely need: Sets of pliers, needle nose pliers, adjustable wrenches, 11-1 Screwdriver, 6" Precision screwdriver to adjust control board and thermostat terminals, Cordless impact driver, multi-meter with an amp clamp. Companies will likely have a tool list. If not, your co-workers will let you know.
The MR45 is great I use it everyday for changouts and it’s easy enough for even new helpers to get the hang of it especially with auto shut off and a digital screen to show pressures.
Great video. 12:26 you stated that pulling the system below 4” Hg would introduce air into the recovery bottle. If the system has no leaks, where would the air come from? It seems you could pull the condenser and line set to vacuum, then close the valve to the recovery tank and eliminate any chance of air contamination. What am I missing?
When the pressure in the lines is less than atmosphere pressure, the air will be sucked in through a micro leak. In europe it is not recommended to suck below zero due to the risk. I speculate (pretty sure) that air molecules is smaller than refrigerant, and then will be sucked in easier is possible and the system seems to be leak free, you don't know for sure. Also, the hoses has micro leaks. Try vacuum yours and wait if it rises, it likely does due to air sucked in.
So what's the need for the filter drier if recovered refrigerant is supposedily bad and not good to reuse? Are you just trying to protect the recovery unit itself?
I have a question. If after a while of sitting the refrigerant gets saturated, which if I'm understanding correctly means there's gas and liquid mixed everywhere inside. If it's on the evaporator side how does it not damage the compressor on startup? Wouldn't liquid enter the compressor?
After you completed the second recovery, where the unit stayed in a low vacuum, why didn't you start shutting off the valves like you di at the condenser, and work your way back to the recovery cylinder through the recovery machine shutting valves as you go. Wouldn't this prevent diminimus release and capture most all of the refrigerant in the cylinder? Thanks.
Yesterday, two "experts" did some maintenance on our AC at our house in Indonesia. They probably just vented the refrigerant in the air. That's how they do it here and in many other countries too, I guess. What are your thoughts on this? IQ is about 78 in Indonesia. Motivation for improvement is very low too, I guess. Having a normal conversation with these guys is probably very complicated besides not knowing their language.
Great content as always, Craig. I’ve watched your videos over the years and grown exponentially as a technician. I’m curious as to why it’s a good idea to break the vacuum and the tank prior to recovery. I remember you and Bryan Orr mentioning in a video about how it’s good practice to bring the tank down into a vacuum on site and I’ve been using that advice to great affect. Does a trace amount of refrigerant in the recovery tank help?
This content was not that good and actually it could be a little confusing to the novice or someone like yourself .. he actually did the procedure kind of out of order and the info wasn’t as accurate .. and last, his set up was over kill without the manifolds!
a trace amount of refrigerant in the tank would not matter as the recovery tank pressure is and should always be lower than the unit “standing” pressure .. also recovery tanks (even EZ One Shot Tanks) do not need to be placed in a vacuum ..
You’re correct, and recovering through a manifold will absolutely get the job done. An optimized recovery setup as well as a tank pulled into vacuum are only going to save time on the job. Supposing it’s only seven minutes in savings on average per recovery. After 3 or 4 years those minutes become hours. It’s not for everyone, and Craig has demonstrated plenty of recovery videos using a manifold and 1/4” hoses. I’m small business, and time for me is my dearest asset.
The red outlet from the recovery machine causes technicians to connect the red outlet of the recovery machine to the red liquid port of the recovery tank instead of the vapor. AC service tech, Can you explain what happens when they do that?
I use a refrigerant analyzer on all my R 22 systems. Here in San Francisco we have a lot of people who come from countries who do not care about EPA and cross contaminating refrigerant and just dropping one refrigerant on top of another refrigerant especially those so-called blend drop in refrigerant. And the drop in refrigerant when you try to use the PT chart will show up as R22 Because the inside coil and all the refrigerant lines are at one temperature and your outdoor condenser is at a different temperature so there’s absolutely no way to get an accurate pressure reading. It’s just speculation and guessing that it is R22 or a blend or a contaminated mixture of the both I have always owned refrigerant analyzers since 1993 and they were very expensive at the time back then but I still felt it was more than worth it. Because while everybody else was doing misdiagnosis when systems had air contamination (noncondensibles) I would diagnose it correctly 100% of the time whether the refrigerant was clean and pure or not because I had a refrigerant analyzer. Do it once do do it right. And a lot of reuse refrigerant tanks and sometimes brand new refrigerant thanks leak at the valve packing at the stems of the knobs when you try to pull deep vacuum the technician can pull air in. But NYLOG fixes this problem
Stick your analyzers and that nylog crap where the sun don’t shine, and the freon will always travel to the coolest place and that will determine the system pressure !
@@nunyabusiness6746 analyze is always 100% right when it comes to analyzing pure R 22. And when you’re dealing with large systems with several hundred or several thousand feet of pipe you don’t know what the coldest places is it a pipe that’s buried in the wall the pipe underground is it the pipe above the ceiling in the hallway in the offices but we won’t think about the pipe that’s traveling under the roof at 130°. If I wanted to transfer refrigerant from one container to another container yes the refrigerant will travel to the coldest place I’ll stick one tank in the freezer and leave one tank outside in the sun and it all go mostly not all to the cold tank. . But unless you’re going to go travel throughout an apartment building or a 2000 room hotel in sick temperature clamps on all the pipes in walls floors and ceilings to find the coldest one so you have an accurate temperature yeah right when pigs fly.
If he was using a manifold he could have shown you, check your PT chart for the refrigerant inside the unit, if it doesn’t match the temp/press on the PT chart for that refrigerant then you would know if its air or refrigerant .. Air is lighter than refrigerant so it will come out of an enclosed pressurized container first (according to our Dalton’s Law theory)
Is there an allowable range when checking what kind of refrigerant is in the system? Like you said the ambient was 87 degrees. And the saturated temp was 81. Like you said the condenser outside and the air handler inside so you should have refrigerant inside and outside at different temps. What about when checking a recovery bottle is there an allowable range?
Every time you open the system up to the outside environment, you are technically required by all the manufacturers I know to replace the filter dryer.
Great video, but Greg you don't explain the purpose of the full recovery. Is it to replace an outdoor component only, or is it to replace an air handler component? And what's the difference of a partial recovery vs. full recovery? Pardon my ignorance and possible dumb questions.
If you pump enough refrigerant into the tank so the pressure reaches equilibrium between gas and liquid then adding more vapor will immediately turn some vapor into liquid.....no?
Are you also measuring a bit of the weight of the hose when weighing the recovery bottle with the hose attached? (Or was that mitigates by propping up the hose a bit so it was pretty much suspended in mid-air?)
You generally will zero the scale once you have everything in place. So the hose is not going to affect that reading. Now if you bump the hose after everything is set up, then yes your reading will get messed up.
hey Craig so this 15$ filter dryer I just ordered from supplyhouse ... it can only be used for one recovery ?? thought these were re usable til they pretty much started to show signs of constriction
craig quick question... so after getting it down to 0 on the single gauge then shutting off the crt valves, will the pressure rise a few psi back up or it has to literally stay at 0 ?? used this procedure for the first time w pretty much everything you have I didn't flip the tank over I put the r22 back in through the vapor side. ....
So the hoses that go from the low/high sides to the wye are 1/4" to 3/8", but the wye output is a 1/4" -- does that 1/4" output restrict the flow from the unit sufficiently so it makes the use of 3/8" hoses not worthwhile to accelerate the recovery?
and should I have left it to keep trying to suck down to hg? like 2 or 4 ? because once I got to 0 it seemed to take alot longer to try to get any lower
When ever I’m in doubt if something I read or was taught I always turn to your videos you are the best!
Thanks so much Kyle!!!
I’ve turned on several guys from our crew to your channel. Thank you so much for all of the information you provide.
Awesome! Thank you!
I will be doing the same
By the time you finished that extravagant setup and explanation, I'm done. Never removed cores and it's plenty fast for 5T and under or 15 lbs of refrigerant. If you are changing out a system, lay a wet towel on top of the recovery tank, put a fan on it to keep it cool and start disconnecting electrical, pulling blowers/heats out of air handler, unhook duct work.
I find a huge problem with the many of these type videos, especially on the recovery, vacuum and charge of refrigerant, that many of them have enough differences on detailed procedures, and that anyone trying to learn the absolute correct procedures to prevent future premature failures would not have any guarantees from any that these videos will give them the best possible results. I've seen this in all the trades, but this is one of those procedures that seems to be much more critical than other trades have to deal with if things are NOT done properly.
Very true
I wish you be my teacher ..I love the way you teach ..
Thank you for all your videos .all I know about AC I learned with you and not with my teacher at school..
Thank you so much..
GOD BLESS YOU ..
Thank you very much for your encouragement and so glad that you appreciate the videos!
100%. This is the best, most complete video you've done. I can't thank you enough for all the help. Great job!
Always the best to come back to for refreshers
explaining like this is good. Starting from Scratch
You kick butt, Craig! Time to buy one of those books :)
So awesome, thanks!!!
Good quality video.Very useful knowledge.Thank you
Are you sure the small amount of added weight over the tare weight wasn’t the weight of the attached hose?
This is amazing. I did have a question as, I was taught something slightly different.
When you are purging the air in the service lines, before allowing refrigerant to enter, why did you not lossen the hose to the taken to allow air to escape as you open the megaflow valves.
I was taught that air can mix with the refrigerant if you do it that way, thus essentially making your uncontaminated bottle now contaminated.
Am I inaccurate?
At 5:45 you mention regarding the refrigerant transfer you mention "unless it's from the same owner". You mean vendor in regards to refrigerant/oil content or system owner in regards to legislation or rules prohibiting refrigerant (freon maybe) transfers. Great content!
I meant system owner in regards to EPA 608 rules, thanks!
@@acservicetechchannel thank you for you fast reply! 👍
Your videos very instructive. Greetings from Argentina!
Thanks for watching!
Excellent video, very well explained, I have a cuestión: I missing the part that you said that the hose have to be connected to the tank liquid valve port, I think there’s not color codes for the liquid side valves or knobs. Thank again for this great Video
Just purchased 3 of the Appion valve core removal tools. Great quality compared to the Robinair ones I purchased a couple years ago.
They are not necessary and really doesn’t make any difference from using a manifold like the traditional HVAC technicians do
@@brickcitynetwork Absolutely 💯
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For vacuuming a system down it can make a difference with a large can vacuum pump. With some Appion vacuum hoses, and accutools core removal tools, and a 10off pump….I can have a micron reading so low in minutes. It Would blow your mind how fast it is truly. Now for recovery I don’t see this set up being any faster. I’ve seen guys put the recovery tank in a 5 gallon bucket with ice, and recover it faster through a manifold.
The rise of pressure is usually caused by refrigerant trapped in the oil.
I’m a 40+ year HVAC&R service technician
Cool story bro
Really true ,I saw a video about PAG oil , the refrigerant kept evaporating from oil for minutes after recovery.
That’s not always true as it is not easy recovering a unit down to its motor oil (compressor oil) .. The majority of time its simply Air .. and if any oil was to leave the unit and enter any recovery unit you will hear its compressor “screeching” from time to time during the recovery ..
I love this job and study it, and now I'm looking for a job, is there any hope?
Top notch video! Always appreciate your insight. Thanks again!
Much appreciated!
Thank you for the videos. It helping me a lot as a new technician.
I have this nasco split AC that sends power to the outdoor after after 10 minutes of putting it on. The outdoor unit works for 5 seconds and goes off for another 10 minutes. When the out door unit is on , the indoor fan goes off till the outdoor goes of again. Please what may be the problem?
Out here in California, San Francisco , minisplits, Mitsubishi in particular. I would love to see you do a full Mitsubishi, Samsung, or Fujitsu install.
What’s the 3way pc called that the filter dryer is attached too?
Thankful for you craig .Perfect explanation .
Just I have a question when said 2 or 4 at that prrussre you stop recovery machine it was 2 , 4 psig over or below the 0 psiag .
Thankful for you dude
I find that pulling through my manifold with no shraders works well enough for me. (As long as all gaskets are good)
Gaskets!
By the time you get done screwing around with the shrader valves you could be done with the job!
@@nunyabusiness6746 recovery takes forever either way
@@nunyabusiness6746 sometimes. Especially for smaller charge units.
Great video Craig. A nice simple setup for recovering R22.
This video was not all that excellent and actually it could be a little confusing for the novice or someone such as yourself (no disrespect) .. the hose set up was over kill, he did not use a manifold, and the procedure was done kind of out of order ..
Thank you for this illustration. Why you don’t use ice to make the process fast? Thanks.
Where do you find those black 1/4" hose plugs with the finger hole? I like the idea of using those to keep the hoses closed off when not in use.
The brand is APPION they come with hoses when you purchase. They are metal now but were plastic on older ones
I'm new to HVAC I got my type 1 getting my 608 universal next
this guy sounds like kermit the frog lol and that is amazing
He should sue the muppets for using His voice without consent😂
He does lol
I never realized that until now and now it's all I can hear lol
You Sure Are needed Hearing Aids. I know well the Herman the frog sounds 😅😂
This Guy is a AC professor...... and he is very good in SHARING his skills 👍❤️Not a regular Clueless guy
Excellent video. In this case, the compressor should be in stopped condition?
Hi Craig! Do you use a new filter every time for the recovery?
Beautiful tutorial! Clear and concise as always.
Kind of a random questions: Why is there a minimum and maximum line set length for systems? (traditional and mini-splits) I would think that making the line set as short as possible would be ideal for similar reasons to why you would want to minimize your vacuum hose length. Do systems not function properly if the line sets are too long or short?
This was NOT a good tutorial .. over kill and not properly explaining the procedure correctly .. as far as the procedure he would have not been successful actually recovering that unit and you ALWAYS recover the unit to a slight vacuum (pass zero psig into the mercury inches)
awesome Craig!!!!! thanks, man for sharing! I love the book good stuff!!!!!.
Thanks for watching!
How often do you need to change out the dryer filter on recovery machine
Just bought your book on Amazon. Looking forward to getting it tomorrow. Question: Why were there 10 pounds in the system? 4 pounds (right?) over the manufacturer's plate.
So this unit had a long line set and an oversized evaporator coil. It could have also been overcharged. We just recovered and removed it.
Hi Greg, can you give me the link to the 1/4" x 3/8" x 3/8" tee, the plug pieces for the hoses and the pressure gauge, that would be great, love your videos, thanks
Appion hoses and holders. Appion Y fitting Navac makes one too
Watching this trying to learn something. my scenario is for Car AC, slightly different than this scenario. My question is can I hook a black hose from red port of recovery machine to the tank in my scenario or it needs to be a specific color?
Believe me I do understand the larger hose thing but it's still pulling through 1/4 inch ports.
I worked at a public utility so there was never a need for rushing , as soon a we hooked all that up it would be BREAK TIME!!!🤣😂🤣😂
Always looking for new and useful information which this channel Always provides, and for that I do thank you!
Much appreciated!!!
🍺🍺🍺🥃🥃🍿👍🏻
Stay safe.
Retired (werk'n) keyboard super tech. Wear your safety glasses.
Thanks for the awesome information Craig. I can't seem to find that Y adapter though. Any help would be appreciated
If you have not already done so start your search here:
appiontools.com/products/refrigerant-recovery/
Wow! Fantastic video. Great detail. Much thanks!
Glad you liked it!
Recommend to change filter dryer or meter device
I like this ! Hopefully I can get my job soon
thanks mate from Australia.
As long as you don’t go over your 80% capacity i like to zero scale before I begin recovery. Adding up tw just adds steps.
Hey Craig, I’m trying to get in the HVAC career. Can you make a list of tools that a technician will need to start with. I’ll really appreciate it.
Buy a variety of hand & some power tools first. Your company may or may not provide you with essential HVAC related equipment (Recovery machine, Vacuum pump, Torch kit, etc), Some stuff you'll likely need: Sets of pliers, needle nose pliers, adjustable wrenches, 11-1 Screwdriver, 6" Precision screwdriver to adjust control board and thermostat terminals, Cordless impact driver, multi-meter with an amp clamp. Companies will likely have a tool list. If not, your co-workers will let you know.
Go to his website, he has tools lists on every aspect of the trade so you can get your bearings.
Hey Craig, I’m shopping for a new recovery machine, what do you recommend.
The MR45 is great I use it everyday for changouts and it’s easy enough for even new helpers to get the hang of it especially with auto shut off and a digital screen to show pressures.
how about the appion G5
@@skipper3069 thats all you need and make sure its the TWIN (meaning two compressor inside for recovering)
I have the g5 twin! It’s amazing and works fast! It is pricey tho
How do account for the weight of the hose, you initially weighed with hose connected
Love the videos. Can you do a video showing pulling a vacuum and adding that same reclaimed process r22 back into the same system
I need this video
Can you do a pump down and the n close the valve and recover the rest of the refrigerant
Great video.
12:26 you stated that pulling the system below 4” Hg would introduce air into the recovery bottle.
If the system has no leaks, where would the air come from?
It seems you could pull the condenser and line set to vacuum, then close the valve to the recovery tank and eliminate any chance of air contamination.
What am I missing?
When the pressure in the lines is less than atmosphere pressure, the air will be sucked in through a micro leak. In europe it is not recommended to suck below zero due to the risk.
I speculate (pretty sure) that air molecules is smaller than refrigerant, and then will be sucked in easier is possible and the system seems to be leak free, you don't know for sure. Also, the hoses has micro leaks. Try vacuum yours and wait if it rises, it likely does due to air sucked in.
Did the hose end plastic threaded seals come wit the hose? Do you have a name and part number for the items!
Great video!
Can use this procedure to remove refrigerant from Freeze Dryer before taking to Brazil. Taking notes of qty and psi so can recharge in Brazil
After recovering All refrigerant from (mini split),do we need to vacuum it down the outdoor unit or just the line set? Please help me I’m a rookie
yes i do vacuum it to check for any leakage and make sure its clean and total empty
How about the weight of the yellow hose to the tare weight? Is this a significant factor or is this hose weight ignored?
So what's the need for the filter drier if recovered refrigerant is supposedily bad and not good to reuse? Are you just trying to protect the recovery unit itself?
To protect the recovery machine.
craig you didn't list a link for the single 22/410a single gauge you used.
Hey Craig love your videos, but how did you connect 3/8 hoses out of that wye fitting into 1/4 removal tool, can’t find hoses that come like that.?
I wish I can work with you brother your r the best to learn with 👍
Thank you for the kind words!!
Always thanks for the videos man
I have a question. If after a while of sitting the refrigerant gets saturated, which if I'm understanding correctly means there's gas and liquid mixed everywhere inside. If it's on the evaporator side how does it not damage the compressor on startup? Wouldn't liquid enter the compressor?
After you completed the second recovery, where the unit stayed in a low vacuum, why didn't you start shutting off the valves like you di at the condenser, and work your way back to the recovery cylinder through the recovery machine shutting valves as you go. Wouldn't this prevent diminimus release and capture most all of the refrigerant in the cylinder? Thanks.
Yesterday, two "experts" did some maintenance on our AC at our house in Indonesia. They probably just vented the refrigerant in the air. That's how they do it here and in many other countries too, I guess. What are your thoughts on this?
IQ is about 78 in Indonesia. Motivation for improvement is very low too, I guess. Having a normal conversation with these guys is probably very complicated besides not knowing their language.
If they’re doing a maintenance then they wouldn’t be messing with your refrigerant
Great content as always, Craig. I’ve watched your videos over the years and grown exponentially as a technician. I’m curious as to why it’s a good idea to break the vacuum and the tank prior to recovery. I remember you and Bryan Orr mentioning in a video about how it’s good practice to bring the tank down into a vacuum on site and I’ve been using that advice to great affect. Does a trace amount of refrigerant in the recovery tank help?
This content was not that good and actually it could be a little confusing to the novice or someone like yourself .. he actually did the procedure kind of out of order and the info wasn’t as accurate .. and last, his set up was over kill without the manifolds!
Lol.. Anybody else?
a trace amount of refrigerant in the tank would not matter as the recovery tank pressure is and should always be lower than the unit “standing” pressure .. also recovery tanks (even EZ One Shot Tanks) do not need to be placed in a vacuum ..
You’re correct, and recovering through a manifold will absolutely get the job done. An optimized recovery setup as well as a tank pulled into vacuum are only going to save time on the job. Supposing it’s only seven minutes in savings on average per recovery. After 3 or 4 years those minutes become hours. It’s not for everyone, and Craig has demonstrated plenty of recovery videos using a manifold and 1/4” hoses. I’m small business, and time for me is my dearest asset.
Good recovery detail Craig!
Glad you enjoyed it
Can you show us how your service car is organized?
Hey Craig, just curious: Why do you wear those black nitrile gloves?
What happens to the oil on recovery? Is the recovery tank going to have oil in it too?
Can you use the same hoses for different refrigerants if you purge them? What about the oils?
Thank you for doing this video!
The red outlet from the recovery machine causes technicians to connect the red outlet of the recovery machine to the red liquid port of the recovery tank instead of the vapor. AC service tech, Can you explain what happens when they do that?
Hey Craig, Great content as always. Do you have an App for all your calculators? If no, would you consider making one?
I use a refrigerant analyzer on all my R 22 systems. Here in San Francisco we have a lot of people who come from countries who do not care about EPA and cross contaminating refrigerant and just dropping one refrigerant on top of another refrigerant especially those so-called blend drop in refrigerant.
And the drop in refrigerant when you try to use the PT chart will show up as R22
Because the inside coil and all the refrigerant lines are at one temperature and your outdoor condenser is at a different temperature so there’s absolutely no way to get an accurate pressure reading.
It’s just speculation and guessing that it is R22 or a blend or a contaminated mixture of the both
I have always owned refrigerant analyzers since 1993 and they were very expensive at the time back then but I still felt it was more than worth it. Because while everybody else was doing misdiagnosis when systems had air contamination (noncondensibles)
I would diagnose it correctly 100% of the time whether the refrigerant was clean and pure or not because I had a refrigerant analyzer.
Do it once do do it right.
And a lot of reuse refrigerant tanks and sometimes brand new refrigerant thanks leak at the valve packing at the stems of the knobs when you try to pull deep vacuum the technician can pull air in. But NYLOG fixes this problem
Stick your analyzers and that nylog crap where the sun don’t shine, and the freon will always travel to the coolest place and that will determine the system pressure !
@@nunyabusiness6746 analyze is always 100% right when it comes to analyzing pure R 22.
And when you’re dealing with large systems with several hundred or several thousand feet of pipe you don’t know what the coldest places is it a pipe that’s buried in the wall the pipe underground is it the pipe above the ceiling in the hallway in the offices but we won’t think about the pipe that’s traveling under the roof at 130°.
If I wanted to transfer refrigerant from one container to another container yes the refrigerant will travel to the coldest place I’ll stick one tank in the freezer and leave one tank outside in the sun and it all go mostly not all to the cold tank. .
But unless you’re going to go travel throughout an apartment building or a 2000 room hotel in sick temperature clamps on all the pipes in walls floors and ceilings to find the coldest one so you have an accurate temperature yeah right when pigs fly.
I would like to know all the process to dispose the freon whent the recovery tank is 80% full. thanks
How do you tell if the pressure rise is from trapped refrigerant vs a leak?
If he was using a manifold he could have shown you, check your PT chart for the refrigerant inside the unit, if it doesn’t match the temp/press on the PT chart for that refrigerant then you would know if its air or refrigerant .. Air is lighter than refrigerant so it will come out of an enclosed pressurized container first (according to our Dalton’s Law theory)
Damn you’re pretty good thank you for the information and knowledge
Great Content, as always. Thank You..
Is there an allowable range when checking what kind of refrigerant is in the system? Like you said the ambient was 87 degrees. And the saturated temp was 81. Like you said the condenser outside and the air handler inside so you should have refrigerant inside and outside at different temps. What about when checking a recovery bottle is there an allowable range?
How often should you change out the filter? Only when you change refrigerant?
Every time you open the system up to the outside environment, you are technically required by all the manufacturers I know to replace the filter dryer.
Where can I purchase the refrigerant hose caps you have to store your hoses without getting debris inside ? Those are sweet
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Yo Greg, can you tell me what size is that filter dryer please?
are you adding liquid to vapor side of tank?
Is it normal for the angle fittings on the recovery machine to swivel?
why you recover high side and low side both at the same time ? could you do it seperately ??
Nice video explication 👍
Glad you liked it!
Are you saying that you can recover half or more of refrigerant from any system without that expensive machine ?
Great video, but Greg you don't explain the purpose of the full recovery. Is it to replace an outdoor component only, or is it to replace an air handler component? And what's the difference of a partial recovery vs. full recovery? Pardon my ignorance and possible dumb questions.
If you pump enough refrigerant into the tank so the pressure reaches equilibrium between gas and liquid then adding more vapor will immediately turn some vapor into liquid.....no?
Could you please share the link for that Y fitting?
Should make a list of the items used in this video.
Are you also measuring a bit of the weight of the hose when weighing the recovery bottle with the hose attached? (Or was that mitigates by propping up the hose a bit so it was pretty much suspended in mid-air?)
You generally will zero the scale once you have everything in place. So the hose is not going to affect that reading. Now if you bump the hose after everything is set up, then yes your reading will get messed up.
hey Craig so this 15$ filter dryer I just ordered from supplyhouse ... it can only be used for one recovery ?? thought these were re usable til they pretty much started to show signs of constriction
What’s the fitting on the filter drier called to attach hoses?
¿So the recovery machine can pump liquid refrigerant?
¿No worries about "slugging" the recovery machine's compressor?
hello, do you have any refrigeration and air conditioning groups? I'm a technician here in Brazil
Excellent video muchas gracias
Why did you put back the valve core?
Gday. Where can I get the "stem" connector on the blue gauge? Can't seem to find it anywhere.
craig quick question... so after getting it down to 0 on the single gauge then shutting off the crt valves, will the pressure rise a few psi back up or it has to literally stay at 0 ?? used this procedure for the first time w pretty much everything you have I didn't flip the tank over I put the r22 back in through the vapor side. ....
So the hoses that go from the low/high sides to the wye are 1/4" to 3/8", but the wye output is a 1/4" -- does that 1/4" output restrict the flow from the unit sufficiently so it makes the use of 3/8" hoses not worthwhile to accelerate the recovery?
I'm also confused by this, especially two 3/8 being restricted down to 1/4. And what are the pump inlet and outlet, I'm assuming 1/4?
and should I have left it to keep trying to suck down to hg? like 2 or 4 ? because once I got to 0 it seemed to take alot longer to try to get any lower
thank you teacher