From South Africa I once circumnavigated South Africa. About 9500 km on a Vespa Piaggio 200... one of the most memorable trips I've ever had.... 40kg of camping gear, and a Yorkie x dog..
Great mixture of bikes And that’s the point really lots of bikes are great and fun to ride I find it strange that the majority seem to buy such a narrow range of bikes
Back in 1962 I owned a Vespa 125, made in the UK by Douglas Motorcycles in Bristol. It wasn't a bad machine around town, though with the engine mounted on the R/H side of the bike, it tended to fall into R/H corners and required a bit of persuasion to take L/H ones. I kept it for about 9 months, then replaced it with a new 1963 Jawa 250, which much better suited my needs.
@@bikerdood1100 That's what many thought, but it wasn't the case. Douglas made Vespas from 1951 to 1965. Their production included Douglas-produced cylinder heads, gear clusters, brake drums and other mechanical parts. Local UK Vespas also had British-supplied seats, tyres and carburetors, as well as some electrical components. It was only from 1965 to 1982 that Douglas fully imported and distributed Vespa.
Thank you for this video. Very timely, I have just picked up a nearly new Vespa Primavera 125 for my wife. Rode it 30 miles, it is hilarious in a good way and much fun to ride.
Still got 2 of them, one an SX150 Italian frame, but with a Mugello 225 kit on it, probably somewhere around 25 - 27bhp and a lot of fun. The other is a lovely LI125 with a 200 kit in it in beautiful Merc Benz silver. Love riding them both, not hugely fast like a sports bike, but on 10 inch wheels fast enough! The 2 stroke smell, quick revving, lots of gear changes, like driving an older MGBGT or the like.
I honestly think that 2 stroke scooters are the most fun you can have on 2 wheels - the sound, the smell, the comfort, the usability, the filtering; you cant help but smile when your on one. They also aren't any slower than full size bikes (until you get to country lanes or motorways) On my speedfight2 100cc I regularly keep up with 600's+ because I can squeeze down anywhere, and on the straight they have to get very illegal to get away from me.
Another great 5 classics, i have a foot in both camps riding both motorcycles and scooters. Over the years i have owned Japanese super scooters like the Suzuki Burgman and Yamaha TMax and found them brilliant for what they were designed to do. I covered 30,000 miles in two and a half years on the Burgman commuting to work. Today i run a couple of smaller cc scooters for my small commute or shopping saving me from getting one of my motorcycles out. There is also very healthy social scene in the scooter community. How about 5 motorcycles that wont cost the earth to buy and run?
Glad to see Zundapp represented. I learned on a friend’s 250cc two-stroke single Zundapp road bike that he had ridden from Florida to Massachusetts, 1,000 miles. (OK, have it your way, about 1,600 km.) The alternator failed along the way, but it did fine on a 6 volt lantern battery. As long as you did not need lights. . . Easy to start, easy to ride, reliable. (Except the alternator. Good luck finding parts in the U.S.
When I lived in England (early '70s) my partner and I bought a pair of scooters, a Lambretta 200 and a Vespa 150. We used them to get around Manchester and the general area of Silverstone racing circuit, where we were headquartered. Bought the pair from a breaker's yard, so they were missing some bits,but they were also 20 poounds for the pair. Didn't take much to get them going, and neither one had rust, which was a serious problem, espcially with the Vespas. I always thought the Lambretta to be the better machine, but it was easier to get parts for the Vespa. They were useful on town streets with low speed limits but absolutely treacherous in the wet and neither had good brakes (even the Lambretta, which had a front disc). Had no trouble selling them for 120 pounds the pair in late 1974. I have no idea what the cost new, but I think it's safe to say they had lousy resale value. Girls liked them, though!
@@bikerdood1100 True of MANY things...like early VW Beetles. Sometimes, when you spend a bunch of coins on an item of questionable worth...it's God's way of telling you that you just HAD too much money!
My first single track motor vehicle was a Lambretta SX200 (RAR 88D - I still have the engine/gearbox but foolishly discarded the rest, after passing my test on it in 1971) and my second was a Norton 650SS (I still have _all_ of it). The big difference was that the Lambretta was great for hopping onto, dressed as normal (and in those days helmets were not compulsory), and getting the errand done; but the Norton requires fettling, and my dressing in complex leathers, but provides great fun before a silencer drops off from the vibration-induced fatigued bracket (it happened on the A1 on the way to the family home from University in Leeds). The scooter also had a spare wheel, in the days when motorcycle punctures were common. It also had a front disc brake. A friend had an Iso Milano scooter, which occasionally started with the engine running backwards, and the clutch was on-or-off - but he still got through his motorcycle licence test. If only I'd had a camer handy when he revved hard, flipped into gear, only to reverse at high speed into somebody's front garden. What I never worked out was why the speedo was labelled "Sir Thomas Lipton". I have since speculated that it might have been based on Lipton's yacht. How many Lambretta owners disconnected the speed cable, only for the knurled nut to slide down the cable to the bowels of the front wheel downtube? There were two options: turn the scooter upside down, or spend a few hours fishing with a bent bit of wire. I chose the latter, but nowadays a neodymium magnet would have made it a trivial problem. I wish I'd kept the Lambretta - it would have been a useful vehicle for my current needs.
And if you had of kept it you'd be amazed at the price of a Sx200 nowadays! Italian and matching numbers a minimum of 6k if in very good condition probably 8k now.
I passed my test in the early 80's on a PX200E with a side car. I failed the first attempt when the examiner climbed in the sidecar and came with me, that was the last thing I expected to happen and totally through me . For the second attempt I took the sidecar body off and just had a sheet of plywood on it with a mudguard and lights so he couldn't come with me.
Fascinating....I don't know how you manage to put so many of these 5 of videos out so quickly? This maybe should have beena 6 of to includes Triumph's Tina?
Could also have the Raleigh Roma; 78cc and, initially, just 3.7 bhp, but a very low weight meant it went quite well for its size and was quite a stylish machine. Actually, it was a licence-built Bianchi; around 23,400 were made.
I got my first Lambretta in 1968 and I’m still riding one today. Beware the twist and go junk being produced today badged as Lambretta. They are NOT Lambretta.
I'm with you there on that fence. Much prefer full size bikes, but I sure have enjoyed some scooters. They really are great machines for a lot of applications. My favorite is the Piaggio BV300 - it's got 16" wheels! And for short hops is better than a motorcycle
@bikerdood1100 Perhaps a "Maxi-Scooter" collection? Things like the Burgman go way back. They are as tough an engineering/ price/volume proposition as any bike, if not harder.
@@bikerdood1100 Same here, bikes are great on open twisty roads in good weather. but on a cold wet January morning when your late for work the scooter wins then, is there not room for more scooter collections (maybe some of the rarer such as the velocette viceroy for instance) or maybe fully enclosed motorcycles?
These are all really cool in my book. They are rare where I live. I worked with a guy who had a few of them, all Vespas. He hotrodded a 200cc one that would go past 80 mph. Future videos? I love 3 wheelers! I had a Kawasaki KLT250 for a few years, would love to find a Honda 350X.
My late brother-in-law in Italy left his 1951 Lambretta to his kids. It's different from later models in being devoid of leg shields and engine enclosure. Twenty-something years ago, a guy I knew thought he'd import Indian-made Lambrettas locally. He hadn't done his homework and it came as a shock to him when he couldn't get the model approved by Transport Canada.
I had the following 1960? Lambretta LI 150 Series 1 (headlight on front panel not handlebar). Vespa Gs180. PIAGGIO X10 350CC CVT SCOOTER KAWASAKI J300 SCOOTER CURRENTLY MY CURRENT TWO WHEELER !!
The first motorcycle that i ride is a Piaggio Vespa 150 cc 1965....own by my late father.....I rode its from 1976 when I'm 16 years old( that is a legal age for taking a bike licence ) until 1980....
That CZ looks amazing - I hope whatever examples out there are being looked after. As I age I see the attraction of scooters more and more, and the arguments against them as mostly nonsense. I've had a modern super cub C125 for over a year and I love it. Not great for the highway, but I came to realise no-one rides on the highway for fun. The twisties is where the fun lies, and the little 125cc can be wrung out all the way and keep up with all legal traffic. Thanks for the vid! 👍🇦🇺
Cracking video fella, I own both a 1987 Vespa T5 (Square headlight version that everyone hated haha) and also a 1961 Series 2 Spanish Lambretta. May not be the quickest (Although my RB20-powered Lambretta will touch 85 :o ) but bags of fun to ride.
A friend had a Durkopp Diana as his first "bike", but changed to an AJS after a short while. I have never been a scooter person, ridden loads but they were not for me.
What about Maico scooters - both the Maicomobil and the Maicoletta were classy, well-respected scooters on the UK market. The NSU Prima was also a well-made German scooter but it was a tad expensive. A friend of mine had one in the late 1950s/early 1960s and I remember it as a really well-built machine. The Maicoletta could have a serious stab at matching the performance of contemporary motorbikes with similar-capacity engines while giving some weather protection. The Maicomobil was similarly powered to its sister Maicoletta but had absolutely `Marmite' styling with a huge ungainly - looking front end. My unreliable memory tells me it had a spare wheel mounted there!
Whilst I had both Lambretta LI 150 and Vespa GS160, the best of all, and fastest was the Rumi 125cc Bol d'or, fantastic little scooter unfortunately not mentioned here.
My late father bought a lambretta 150 brand new in 63 from Arnold Moore he ran it for a few years before it went in the shed and then a college lecturer from the tech college bought it for 30 quid that was in 1980 for his students to restore. 😊
We had Vespas. The cundundrom is how do you rap your legs around the caulegs if your too small or large without the side leg floor boards? We had those crash bars that raped around the engine shields. Very important yet......teaser the squirl in the USA that better be your daughter
The Heinkel was far above the Italians in engineering excellence, due to their aeroplane heritage. A four stroke with 12-V starter and electrics had no equal
Pity you were not able to include ( though understandable they are rare, no criticism) the Moto Rummy 125, a most unusual thing with an across the frame horizontal twin cylinder exposed 2 stroke twin and the tank , also horizontally mounted high up behind the handle bars, as an apprentice donkeys years ago, I was mentored by a guy that had one, they were brought into Uk, I seem to remember being told that the guy that owned the company was an artist or sculptur or something.
It’s not supposed to be in depth now is it not intended for the anoraks , pun intended😂 If it was I have concentrated on a single mark in greater detail 🙄
@@bikerdood1100 I am getting into scooters. And there is a whole jungle of weird and wonderful out there. This is all down to me not being able to change gears......
Interesting and to people of a certain age, dare I say a tad provocative, . Two tribes (b4 Frankie), and never the twain shall meet. Until one day in 1977 when a die hard biker mate of mine had a job starting the next day in some godforsaken outland and need wheels asap. I took him down to enemy terratory, crombies, parkas, suade heads, skins. We were long haired leather clad hippy/bikers. To cut a long story short I had to test ride this fucking scooter, co's I had a riders policy and my mate did'nt. I'd never ridden one before. Fuck me it went like shit off a stick. It was only later I found out it was a 240/ 25O GT, ment nowt to me, but apparently they were fast and in comparison with what I was used to, off the line and to 50mph, it was somewhat surprising and a bit humbling in a way. He bought it and crashed it in three days. My youngest son bought one (trading in his CB500 that he'd had for 18 mths) when he got an Italian girlfriend and a had two accidents in 3 weeks the last of which put him out of action for 6 weeks. He'd never had an accident on the CB 500. So I've sort of mixed feelings really about them really. I love your channel though, probably the best bike content on YT currently. Ride safe...
I wonder why the accidents though Of course my not be about the bike itself, I’ve never owned a classic scooter but have commuted on a few automatics , all engine sizes 50 -500 and for all weather. Commuting they are brilliant. Never had an accident on on3 though,unlike my normal bikes, that’s another story
@@bikerdood1100 doesn't bother me much, but i was pretty psyched to see some darkside scooters .. and of course, there weren't any featured in your video. Look into what "darkside" means on two wheels.
@fatrobdouble sounds very much like an American thing never heard the phrase In this context at least So guys who put car tyres on bikes ? Ok ? Definitely not a thing that anyone in Britain or Europe would have heard of For is the phrase has a more Jedi connection These aren’t the Scooters you’re looking for 😂
@@bikerdood1100 i hear it's a thing in Australia, too... And with the English language plus Internet/social media, i think it's pretty well known globally....definitely most common on large displacement tourong motos, less so on scooters although it's been done on Burgmans and on highly customized Ruckus/Chuckus builds
Nonsense Both are essentially bicycles but with a different approach I’ve owned and ridden both and can testify to the stupidity of that statement I can’t abide snobbery on either side of a non augment Is a Honda cub a scooter or a bike Where do big wheeled scooters fit See Total bollox
I love scooters, I have a Suzuki Burgman and Yamaha xmax maxi scooters for me they are much better than bikes, I switched to scooters around 10 Years ago and never looked back,
The Italian scooter imitators totally missed the scooter concept and in effect produced motorcycles covered by sheet-metal panels. These never looked or functioned like a scooter was meant to do.
Love the vids! I can't stand Motorcycles. No interest whatsoever. I strictly ride and collect Scooters. Far better than any motorbike for me. I been riding since 1973 and have ridden across Canada and through the US on my 64 GT 200 many many times. And now I have converted all my large collection of Vespas and Lambrettas to Electric and they are faster and more reliable than either their original counterparts or Motorcycles now. Great Vids, rubber down
@@saltaireorangebicyclechopp8555 I wonder what is the battery range of these electric marvels Crap most likely EVs will be the death of motorcycles Over priced soulless junk
@@bikerdood1100 Agree, apart from taking the heart & soul from the scooter, my scooter is incredibly economical in the first place, it's peanuts to own & run. I think an electric conversion would cost me £4k+ and then with a devalued scooter l don't think there is any financial saving to be had. I honestly don't think people are thinking straight.
The Vespa Cosa in the video is the most disliked Vespa ever, though like every ugly ducking it has its fans. If you do another scooter video you should include the Maicoletta, which was popular in the UK. Typical of British motorcycle manufacturing, they thought scooters weren't macho enough as they plunged into financial oblivion. It's difficult to define what is and isn't a scooter nowadays, especially at bigger capacities. Surely the Honda Gold Wing is just a very large scooter?
I would also like to introduce the Fuji Rabbit manufactured and sold by Japan's Fuji Heavy Industries (now Subaru Corporation) in 1946-1968. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fuji_Rabbit th-cam.com/video/suO1KQo-6lI/w-d-xo.html
From South Africa I once circumnavigated South Africa. About 9500 km on a Vespa Piaggio 200... one of the most memorable trips I've ever had.... 40kg of camping gear, and a Yorkie x dog..
They are very capable machines, no doubt
Sounds like quite an adventure
Especially for the dog
Great production there......Thank you so much for sharing. Some great information there !!! Please keep up the good work !!!!!
Thanks
We will try to
I've owned and run Vespas, Lambrettas, Triumphs, BSAs, Nortons, Suzukis, Kawasakis and...a Honda Cub! Loved 'em all.
Great mixture of bikes
And that’s the point really lots of bikes are great and fun to ride
I find it strange that the majority seem to buy such a narrow range of bikes
Back in 1962 I owned a Vespa 125, made in the UK by Douglas Motorcycles in Bristol. It wasn't a bad machine around town, though with the engine mounted on the R/H side of the bike, it tended to fall into R/H corners and required a bit of persuasion to take L/H ones. I kept it for about 9 months, then replaced it with a new 1963 Jawa 250, which much better suited my needs.
To be honest I thing Douglas just imported and assembled complete bikes
@@bikerdood1100 That's what many thought, but it wasn't the case. Douglas made Vespas from 1951 to 1965. Their production included Douglas-produced cylinder heads, gear clusters, brake drums and other mechanical parts. Local UK Vespas also had British-supplied seats, tyres and carburetors, as well as some electrical components. It was only from 1965 to 1982 that Douglas fully imported and distributed Vespa.
@@chrisweeks6973 The Douglas Vespa had the headlight on the apron.
Thank you for this video. Very timely, I have just picked up a nearly new Vespa Primavera 125 for my wife. Rode it 30 miles, it is hilarious in a good way and much fun to ride.
Home she gets a lot of enjoyment out of it
Still got 2 of them, one an SX150 Italian frame, but with a Mugello 225 kit on it, probably somewhere around 25 - 27bhp and a lot of fun. The other is a lovely LI125 with a 200 kit in it in beautiful Merc Benz silver. Love riding them both, not hugely fast like a sports bike, but on 10 inch wheels fast enough! The 2 stroke smell, quick revving, lots of gear changes, like driving an older MGBGT or the like.
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I honestly think that 2 stroke scooters are the most fun you can have on 2 wheels - the sound, the smell, the comfort, the usability, the filtering; you cant help but smile when your on one. They also aren't any slower than full size bikes (until you get to country lanes or motorways) On my speedfight2 100cc I regularly keep up with 600's+ because I can squeeze down anywhere, and on the straight they have to get very illegal to get away from me.
Not sure about the most fun
But definitely fun I’ll grant you
I had a Lambretta TV 175 in the 60's. Great fun, but with those tiny wheels and tires I became very good at spotting oil patches when cornering. 😁
Oh nothing with two wheel ps likes oil patches too much 😂
I have a lambretta GP. 245cc reed valve , runs about 26 b,h.p. lots of fun. Great videos pal, love the one on 1980s 125 , happy days 😊❤
Glad you enjoyed it
Must do a few more scooter videos 🤔
You have scooter you have transport. The old scooters were just so solid compared to the cheap Chinese imports here in South Africa.
They are great transport
Another great 5 classics, i have a foot in both camps riding both motorcycles and scooters. Over the years i have owned Japanese super scooters like the Suzuki Burgman and Yamaha TMax and found them brilliant for what they were designed to do. I covered 30,000 miles in two and a half years on the Burgman commuting to work. Today i run a couple of smaller cc scooters for my small commute or shopping saving me from getting one of my motorcycles out. There is also very healthy social scene in the scooter community. How about 5 motorcycles that wont cost the earth to buy and run?
I too have owned a Burgman which I thought was pretty good also had a couple of Aprilias a piaggio and a Peugeot all of which served us well
Glad to see Zundapp represented. I learned on a friend’s 250cc two-stroke single Zundapp road bike that he had ridden from Florida to Massachusetts, 1,000 miles. (OK, have it your way, about 1,600 km.) The alternator failed along the way, but it did fine on a 6 volt lantern battery. As long as you did not need lights. . .
Easy to start, easy to ride, reliable. (Except the alternator. Good luck finding parts in the U.S.
Well alternators can fail on anything
Japanese bikes especially I find, so I won’t hold that against the Zundapp
Tenho uma Lambretta Li 1963....moro em Barra Velha no estado de Santa Catarina no Brasil...
legal
When I lived in England (early '70s) my partner and I bought a pair of scooters, a Lambretta 200 and a Vespa 150. We used them to get around Manchester and the general area of Silverstone racing circuit, where we were headquartered. Bought the pair from a breaker's yard, so they were missing some bits,but they were also 20 poounds for the pair. Didn't take much to get them going, and neither one had rust, which was a serious problem, espcially with the Vespas. I always thought the Lambretta to be the better machine, but it was easier to get parts for the Vespa. They were useful on town streets with low speed limits but absolutely treacherous in the wet and neither had good brakes (even the Lambretta, which had a front disc). Had no trouble selling them for 120 pounds the pair in late 1974. I have no idea what the cost new, but I think it's safe to say they had lousy resale value. Girls liked them, though!
Ironically valuable today of course
@@bikerdood1100 True of MANY things...like early VW Beetles. Sometimes, when you spend a bunch of coins on an item of questionable worth...it's God's way of telling you that you just HAD too much money!
My first single track motor vehicle was a Lambretta SX200 (RAR 88D - I still have the engine/gearbox but foolishly discarded the rest, after passing my test on it in 1971) and my second was a Norton 650SS (I still have _all_ of it).
The big difference was that the Lambretta was great for hopping onto, dressed as normal (and in those days helmets were not compulsory), and getting the errand done; but the Norton requires fettling, and my dressing in complex leathers, but provides great fun before a silencer drops off from the vibration-induced fatigued bracket (it happened on the A1 on the way to the family home from University in Leeds). The scooter also had a spare wheel, in the days when motorcycle punctures were common. It also had a front disc brake.
A friend had an Iso Milano scooter, which occasionally started with the engine running backwards, and the clutch was on-or-off - but he still got through his motorcycle licence test. If only I'd had a camer handy when he revved hard, flipped into gear, only to reverse at high speed into somebody's front garden.
What I never worked out was why the speedo was labelled "Sir Thomas Lipton". I have since speculated that it might have been based on Lipton's yacht.
How many Lambretta owners disconnected the speed cable, only for the knurled nut to slide down the cable to the bowels of the front wheel downtube? There were two options: turn the scooter upside down, or spend a few hours fishing with a bent bit of wire. I chose the latter, but nowadays a neodymium magnet would have made it a trivial problem.
I wish I'd kept the Lambretta - it would have been a useful vehicle for my current needs.
Things haven’t changed
I have often used modern scooters for commuting and found them to be very good
And if you had of kept it you'd be amazed at the price of a Sx200 nowadays! Italian and matching numbers a minimum of 6k if in very good condition probably 8k now.
I was 16 when I rode my first scooter. It was a red 2 stoke Vespa,sold by Sears department store in America.
Nice
My Dad bought me a 1959 Lambretta 150LD in 1978 for 10 pounds , I had a lot of fun on that old unit!!😃
Oh I’ll bet
Love that zundap cool looking .another cool vid thanks!🇳🇿
It does and very much inspired 5he Triumph styling
I passed my test in the early 80's on a PX200E with a side car. I failed the first attempt when the examiner climbed in the sidecar and came with me, that was the last thing I expected to happen and totally through me .
For the second attempt I took the sidecar body off and just had a sheet of plywood on it with a mudguard and lights so he couldn't come with me.
Scooter and a side car
Had some scooters
Had a side car , not at the same time however
Fascinating....I don't know how you manage to put so many of these 5 of videos out so quickly? This maybe should have beena 6 of to includes Triumph's Tina?
Well it could have been a lot more to be honest
The vides take @ few day# to put together, this one seemed to take an age
Could also have the Raleigh Roma; 78cc and, initially, just 3.7 bhp, but a very low weight meant it went quite well for its size and was quite a stylish machine. Actually, it was a licence-built Bianchi; around 23,400 were made.
That blue and silver Bella is stunning.
Some very stylish scooters in there
Heinkel Tourist might be worth a mention.
Heinkel has come up before
Interesting styling
I got my first Lambretta in 1968 and I’m still riding one today.
Beware the twist and go junk being produced today badged as Lambretta.
They are NOT Lambretta.
No that# very true
Can’t really comment on 5h3 build quality in all honesty
My favourite scooter is Lambretta ❤
Very stylish choice
I'm with you there on that fence. Much prefer full size bikes, but I sure have enjoyed some scooters. They really are great machines for a lot of applications. My favorite is the Piaggio BV300 - it's got 16" wheels! And for short hops is better than a motorcycle
Had a few scooters for commuting over the years and found them very good
@bikerdood1100 Perhaps a "Maxi-Scooter" collection? Things like the Burgman go way back. They are as tough an engineering/ price/volume proposition as any bike, if not harder.
@@bikerdood1100 Same here, bikes are great on open twisty roads in good weather. but on a cold wet January morning when your late for work the scooter wins then, is there not room for more scooter collections (maybe some of the rarer such as the velocette viceroy for instance) or maybe fully enclosed motorcycles?
Please could you test ride Honda CB125f 2023
Hmm 🤔
My late father had an LI150 he loved it 😊
Great bikes
These are all really cool in my book. They are rare where I live. I worked with a guy who had a few of them, all Vespas. He hotrodded a 200cc one that would go past 80 mph. Future videos? I love 3 wheelers! I had a Kawasaki KLT250 for a few years, would love to find a Honda 350X.
Not sure about high speed on tiny wheels and crappy tyres
My late brother-in-law in Italy left his 1951 Lambretta to his kids. It's different from later models in being devoid of leg shields and engine enclosure.
Twenty-something years ago, a guy I knew thought he'd import Indian-made Lambrettas locally. He hadn't done his homework and it came as a shock to him when he couldn't get the model approved by Transport Canada.
Importing a bike to anywhere can be an absolute minefield
Hi where did you get the video from,that's my li series 2 lambretta in the video at the beginning.
It’s freely available
The thing about Youtibe is it’s copywrite free
Bet there’s someone using my video somewhere
I had the following
1960? Lambretta LI 150 Series 1 (headlight on front panel not handlebar).
Vespa Gs180.
PIAGGIO X10 350CC CVT SCOOTER
KAWASAKI J300 SCOOTER CURRENTLY MY CURRENT TWO WHEELER !!
Never owned a classic scooter myself
We hav3 had a number of CVT types though from
Suzuki, Peugeot, Aprillia and piaggio
All pretty good
The first motorcycle that i ride is a Piaggio Vespa 150 cc 1965....own by my late father.....I rode its from 1976 when I'm 16 years old( that is a legal age for taking a bike licence ) until 1980....
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Suzuki GT 185 is KTE902P was a 1976 bike in blue is it still out there ? In the uk I now live in oz
Let’s hope so
Are you sure you have the correct registration number? KTE902P was registered to a mini clubman and was declared as scrapped in 1983.
No mention of the Heinkel Tourist, the scooter with the huge front mudguard......
5
Not 25
Not making a two hour video
How about a video of two stroke twin scooters? Rumi, Italjet Dragster 180 and Formula 125, plus the Dayton Albatross.
Blimey the Albatross
Not really a looker but very clever all the same
@@bikerdood1100 I guess the Italjets are single cylinders, my bad.
@@fredtracy3931 I don’t know
I have a memory of their producing a twin in the 90s
Before going busy
@@bikerdood1100 you may be right. 🤷♂️
That CZ looks amazing - I hope whatever examples out there are being looked after. As I age I see the attraction of scooters more and more, and the arguments against them as mostly nonsense. I've had a modern super cub C125 for over a year and I love it. Not great for the highway, but I came to realise no-one rides on the highway for fun. The twisties is where the fun lies, and the little 125cc can be wrung out all the way and keep up with all legal traffic. Thanks for the vid! 👍🇦🇺
Been meaning to test ride the cub
CZ is an amazing thing, I do wonder about ground clearance, looks like it would scrape on corners
Cracking video fella, I own both a 1987 Vespa T5 (Square headlight version that everyone hated haha) and also a 1961 Series 2 Spanish Lambretta. May not be the quickest (Although my RB20-powered Lambretta will touch 85 :o ) but bags of fun to ride.
Less is more they say
A friend had a Durkopp Diana as his first "bike", but changed to an AJS after a short while. I have never been a scooter person, ridden loads but they were not for me.
Have owned some but but mostly conventional bikes
What about Maico scooters - both the Maicomobil and the Maicoletta were classy, well-respected scooters on the UK market. The NSU Prima was also a well-made German scooter but it was a tad expensive. A friend of mine had one in the late 1950s/early 1960s and I remember it as a really well-built machine. The Maicoletta could have a serious stab at matching the performance of contemporary motorbikes with similar-capacity engines while giving some weather protection. The Maicomobil was similarly powered to its sister Maicoletta but had absolutely `Marmite' styling with a huge ungainly - looking front end. My unreliable memory tells me it had a spare wheel mounted there!
Well only room for so many in one video
Whilst I had both Lambretta LI 150 and Vespa GS160, the best of all, and fastest was the Rumi 125cc Bol d'or, fantastic little scooter unfortunately not mentioned here.
Can only fit s may in one video
My late father bought a lambretta 150 brand new in 63 from Arnold Moore he ran it for a few years before it went in the shed and then a college lecturer from the tech college bought it for 30 quid that was in 1980 for his students to restore. 😊
Lucky students to have something to work on I suppose
See my reply about my dad! , he bought me a 59 150LD for 10 quid! In the 70s, great fun 😃
Cushman ? Love to see you do a video on Cushman scooters
Very influential machines
We had Vespas. The cundundrom is how do you rap your legs around the caulegs if your too small or large without the side leg floor boards? We had those crash bars that raped around the engine shields. Very important yet......teaser the squirl in the USA that better be your daughter
😂
My first vehicle was the Heinkel Tourist, so ugly it curdled milk, but it was a pleasure to ride, much more smooth and stable than Lamys & Vespas.
Germans do engineering not styling
Look at modern BMW bikes or cars 😂
The Heinkel was far above the Italians in engineering excellence, due to their aeroplane heritage. A four stroke with 12-V starter and electrics had no equal
@@sc5687 BSA Sunbeam had a electric start and a twin cylinder four stroke engine
Heinkel was not a looker I have to say and looks for count
Surprised you didn't include Capri scooters.
Can’t possibly fit all makes onto a single video
Something has to give after all 🤷🏻
The C-Zeta that was sold in NZ was actually sold under the N-Zeta name.
Well in the video I cover this because it was assembled in NZ too
You seem to have forgotten the Heinkell, spelling may be wrong! 200cc four stroke from Germany.
As it’s a video of 5 scooters I can’t put em all in their now
Leaves me room for later videos
Pity you were not able to include ( though understandable they are rare, no criticism) the Moto Rummy 125, a most unusual thing with an across the frame horizontal twin cylinder exposed 2 stroke twin and the tank , also horizontally mounted high up behind the handle bars, as an apprentice donkeys years ago, I was mentored by a guy that had one, they were brought into Uk, I seem to remember being told that the guy that owned the company was an artist or sculptur or something.
I’ve seen those
Most atypical design. Hopefully if this video goes well it won’t be the last as I’d like to do a few more on scooters
@@bikerdood1100 Bitri, Patti, Peugeot, NSU.IFA
You mentioned the Cushman twice in the video. Why didn't you cover it? It was a piece of history.
They are in another video
I will be covering them at a later date on early scooters
Although they are still around I do believe
Very sketchy and not always accurate description of Lambrettas! Which 50cc model did Innocenti produce in the 1950s?
It’s not supposed to be in depth now is it not intended for the anoraks , pun intended😂
If it was I have concentrated on a single mark in greater detail 🙄
FORGOT THE HARLEY DAVIDSON TOPPER GREAT SCOOTER , SHOULD TRY DRIVING A YAMBRETTA, WITH RD350 ENGINE
Not forgotten
Just not included
In the mid 80's i picked up a B.S.A. Danddy 70cc for £35 ..
Dandy by reputation wasn’t the best on the market, good value for money at £35
Not so much given th3 current mad market
If Lambretta had survived through the nineties in India they might have become another success story similar to Royal Enfield.
Possibly so
Reminds me of a hairdryer
Really 🙄
Reminds me of 🐂
Best. VIdeo. Yet.
Thanks
It took me long enough to put together
@@bikerdood1100 I am getting into scooters. And there is a whole jungle of weird and wonderful out there. This is all down to me not being able to change gears......
Interesting and to people of a certain age, dare I say a tad provocative, . Two tribes (b4 Frankie), and never the twain shall meet. Until one day in 1977 when a die hard biker mate of mine had a job starting the next day in some godforsaken outland and need wheels asap. I took him down to enemy terratory, crombies, parkas, suade heads, skins. We were long haired leather clad hippy/bikers. To cut a long story short I had to test ride this fucking scooter, co's I had a riders policy and my mate did'nt. I'd never ridden one before. Fuck me it went like shit off a stick. It was only later I found out it was a 240/ 25O GT, ment nowt to me, but apparently they were fast and in comparison with what I was used to, off the line and to 50mph, it was somewhat surprising and a bit humbling in a way. He bought it and crashed it in three days. My youngest son bought one (trading in his CB500 that he'd had for 18 mths) when he got an Italian girlfriend and a had two accidents in 3 weeks the last of which put him out of action for 6 weeks. He'd never had an accident on the CB 500. So I've sort of mixed feelings really about them really. I love your channel though, probably the best bike content on YT currently. Ride safe...
I wonder why the accidents though
Of course my not be about the bike itself, I’ve never owned a classic scooter but have commuted on a few automatics , all engine sizes 50 -500 and for all weather. Commuting they are brilliant.
Never had an accident on on3 though,unlike my normal bikes, that’s another story
Muito top
obrigado
I kinda feel like you said "dark side" without thinking about what the "dark side" is, in the moto context of the term....
Er
Ok ?
@@bikerdood1100 doesn't bother me much, but i was pretty psyched to see some darkside scooters .. and of course, there weren't any featured in your video. Look into what "darkside" means on two wheels.
@@bikerdood1100 here's an example th-cam.com/video/ySlMNOLu_Xo/w-d-xo.htmlsi=x3Sj3N4Azy-Ti-AC
@fatrobdouble sounds very much like an American thing never heard the phrase
In this context at least
So guys who put car tyres on bikes ?
Ok ?
Definitely not a thing that anyone in Britain or Europe would have heard of
For is the phrase has a more Jedi connection
These aren’t the Scooters you’re looking for 😂
@@bikerdood1100 i hear it's a thing in Australia, too... And with the English language plus Internet/social media, i think it's pretty well known globally....definitely most common on large displacement tourong motos, less so on scooters although it's been done on Burgmans and on highly customized Ruckus/Chuckus builds
you never see scooters here in Canada unfortunately.
They are much more of a European thing.
It’s strange though their weather protection would be very useful in Canada
But small engine and big distances
Yeah, not as exciting as a bike, but far more stylish!
Well not sure about style
Definitely a matter of taste as with all things
No Moto Rumi?!
Nope
Can’t fit everything into a short video
You know I had the Formichino and that is why I asked. ;o)@@bikerdood1100
A full size bike is a way to compensate for the complexes ...
But how big does a bike need to be to qualify as full size 🤔
you cannot compare a scooter to a motorbike... they are 2 separate types of 2 wheel transport..... both good at what they are designed for.....
Nonsense
Both are essentially bicycles but with a different approach I’ve owned and ridden both and can testify to the stupidity of that statement
I can’t abide snobbery on either side of a non augment
Is a Honda cub a scooter or a bike
Where do big wheeled scooters fit
See Total bollox
I love scooters, I have a Suzuki
Burgman and Yamaha xmax maxi scooters for me they are much better than bikes, I switched to scooters around 10
Years ago and never looked back,
Planning one on maxi scooters soon
Had a Burgman an a couple of other maxi’s previously
gostei
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The Italian scooter imitators totally missed the scooter concept and in effect produced motorcycles covered by sheet-metal panels. These never looked or functioned like a scooter was meant to do.
Check that history as described in the video
The Italian ms were the imitators 🙄
Heinkel scooter....
Hmmm 🤔
Love the vids! I can't stand Motorcycles. No interest whatsoever. I strictly ride and collect Scooters. Far better than any motorbike for me. I been riding since 1973 and have ridden across Canada and through the US on my 64 GT 200 many many times. And now I have converted all my large collection of Vespas and Lambrettas to Electric and they are faster and more reliable than either their original counterparts or Motorcycles now. Great Vids, rubber down
Scooters are motorcycles tbh
I wouldn’t have lead with that comment though 🙄
Each to their own. But to me it'd be ripping the heart & soul out of iconic scooters by making them electric. I've a 1962 GL & no way would l do that.
@@saltaireorangebicyclechopp8555 I wonder what is the battery range of these electric marvels
Crap most likely
EVs will be the death of motorcycles
Over priced soulless junk
@@bikerdood1100 Agree, apart from taking the heart & soul from the scooter, my scooter is incredibly economical in the first place, it's peanuts to own & run. I think an electric conversion would cost me £4k+ and then with a devalued scooter l don't think there is any financial saving to be had. I honestly don't think people are thinking straight.
The Vespa Cosa in the video is the most disliked Vespa ever, though like every ugly ducking it has its fans. If you do another scooter video you should include the Maicoletta, which was popular in the UK. Typical of British motorcycle manufacturing, they thought scooters weren't macho enough as they plunged into financial oblivion. It's difficult to define what is and isn't a scooter nowadays, especially at bigger capacities. Surely the Honda Gold Wing is just a very large scooter?
Gold win* a scooter
Possibly so, in truth I’d sooner tour on a scooter than a Wing anytime
@@bikerdood1100 Never ride a bike you can't pick up without breaking sweat.
Scooters 🤮! 🤣
Hilarious 🤢🤢🤢
What about the Capri 70 and 80
Can’t fit every bike into a list of 5 machines now
However it does always room for another video
I would also like to introduce the Fuji Rabbit manufactured and sold by Japan's Fuji Heavy Industries (now Subaru Corporation) in 1946-1968.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fuji_Rabbit
th-cam.com/video/suO1KQo-6lI/w-d-xo.html
I believe Fuji made engines for other companies too
Hi I would love to buy a lambretta,so if you know who .ight wants to sell one of these let me know my name is Claudio from Canada.
Good luck 🤞🏻