Everything comes as standard in the Supersonic, Adria's new flagship A-class Mercedes motorhome
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- Peter Vaughan tests the latest top-of-the range A-class motorhome from Adria, one of Europe's top motorhome manufacturers. The new Supersonic 780 SL is a Mercedes Sprinter-based A-class with rear single beds and a very luxurious standard specification.
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◼️ REVIEWED BY: Peter Vaughan, Group Motorhome Road Test Editor for MMM magazine and What Motorhome magazine Editor. Peter has been writing about motorhomes since the age of 14, has a love of touring France and is mad about old Italian sports cars.
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Definitely the best motorhome reviews on the net
Wow, thanks!
Stunning Motorhome but the Habitation door is on the wrong side, can you speck this with the Habitation door on the UK nearside
No, like most imports it has the habitation door on the continental side. But does it matter? You have a door each side and, surely, you'll use the 'van in the UK and on the Continent?
If you MUST have an A-class with UK-handed layout, try Roller Team and Mobilvetta.
I would say 2 things....weigh up the high cost together with the practicalities of how much you are going to use it. This seems to get overlooked, in the adrenalin rush to buy a nice big flashy toy. . Usage is important, particularly in the UK where the weather is hardly encouraging. We went for the Adria Compact and its brilliant....lower spec but much lower price (even has a bigger fridge freezer believe it or not!). Ultimately it all depends on your resources !
Hi Peter great video
We went to buy a pilote and the supersonic 780 SL kept looking at me and we fell in love with it and now waiting for delivery in late July / august also it has the new levelling system approved by Mercedes which also weighs your van loaded at an extra cost £168k
Sounds great! I'm sure you'll love it
Once again Peter, many thanks for another informative video. However, I could tear this Adria to pieces, mainly due to the value. No way is this Motorhome worth over £154. Or even euros. 🤔🚍⚓️🇬🇧
Maybe it's just not the 'van for you. There are plenty of A-classes that cost a LOT more and, if you compare it with its rivals, then I think the Adria looks good value. Unfortunately, prices have risen by around 20% in the last year or so.
Enjoyed the test Peter and loved almost everything about the Supersonic especially the comprehensive spec.....but for a 7.8mtr motorhome there is pitiful external storage or internal floor storage. There must be loads of lost space in that Alko chassis with a small fresh water tank and the externally mounted waste tank. Adria are a really experienced builder, but have somewhat snatched defeat from the jaws of victory here.
Yes, it's a pity they didn't go for a full storage double floor (like Frankia, Carthago, etc), rather than a technical double floor. I wouldn't say 150 litres was a small fresh tank, though.
Did you not notice that massive garage? Small freshwater tank? It’s 150 litres for god’s sake. I’ve had a couple of m/homes with internal underfloor storage and rarely used it, just can’t be bothered to keep lifting the carpets.
@peterfoster161 Thats not a massive garage - look at the Hymer BMLi 780 for a massive garage. proper Alko under floor storage and a water tank at 180 litres
Refreshing honesty ref the sound issues Peter. Didn't spoil my enjoyment. I actually thought it was down to the speaker on my phone until your confession. 🤣
Very pleased to hear it. I actually filmed the driving scene four or five times because of the issues...
@@MotorhomeCampervan I certainly wouldn't choose those roads to drive on again, unless you were reviewing say Niesmann & Bischoff's new offering! Keep up the great work Peter. We love your reviews!
This seems to be a really good motorhome. I ask myself what would happen if you went into one of the big companies in Germany and said you just wanted the basic van with zero options. Bet they would say sorry, we don’t do basic. Thank you for the tour.
Actually, I think the Germans buy their 'vans with less kit than we do. One van conversion specialist brings everything here with alloys, metallic paint, colour-coded bumpers, etc, but German buyers don't bother apparently.
Even if you could buy a German 'van with zero options, though, I'm not sure you'd ever be able to sell it again...
Some of the smaller vans only have 150kg capacity in the garage, 400kg is huge! Love the foot stool. They've got the table size right for once, but the oven is tiny. Great that the toilet is at a sensible height. Are those cupboards in the bedroom at head whacking height? I assume you were still having sound issues when driving, it sounded like a bag of nails.
You don't bang your head because of the tip-up bed supports - see 23:47.
The worst sound issues were on the driving scenes but it was very rattly on the road. Pity, the Merc engine is smooth and well suppressed!
One thing I have noticed watching countless other reviews is that there is a small table hidden under a panel next to the driver's seat. They say it's for laptops but for me it would be for crisps and cider!
I enjoyed watching this and the sound issues didn't fuss me at all. You're a very good presenter and Im am pleased that I subscribed 🚐🚘 It looks to be a very classy vehicle just as you said!
Thank you. I had a nightmare day with filming that one but there was lots to like about the Supersonic
No worries, keep it up, great job!!
Thank you for showing us a very nice product!!!
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Rattles aside it's a great looking van and well finished off inside. I'll put it on my list. Thanks again, a great review sound issues aside 👍
Thanks. It's definitely a looker - let us know if you buy one!
I'm not in the market for an A-class, but, if I were, this would be right at the top of my list. Lovely looking van and a great review.
Thank you for your comment. The more time I spent in this 'van, the more I liked it.
You really do a great job of your reviews, far better than a lot of others. You obviously have a good sense of humour if your reading Sarah Millican 👍🏼What a great vehicle, interesting they ALL seem to have just a small aspect that prevents a 10 out of 10. Brilliant videoing I’m sure you will reach your 70k
Love Sarah Millican. Don't think we'll ever review the perfect 'van.
Thanks for your comments - really appreciated.
I own an Adria Matrix Supreme and love it. This Adria sadly wouldn’t please the wife because of the tiny oven. Adria must know that we Brits tend to cook inside because of our poor weather. Nevertheless the spec is, as usual for Adria, top notch and knocks spots off that ridiculously expensive Frankia you reviewed. Adrias do tend to rattle which is annoying and this issue should have been addressed in this flagship model. That aside it looks like they’re onto another winner here. This is not a German motorhome, they’re made in a huge state of the art facility in Slovenia. I love it.
As ever, it's designed to suit the whole of the European market, of which we are only a part. But at least Adria fits an oven as standard for the UK!
And yes, the Adria factory is very impressive.
Great review of an awesome van with so much as standard but like your comment Peter the oven is an issue for us Brits it’s something that Adria need to address for the UK market
Agreed, but so many continental 'vans have the same issue and if you want an A-class the only Brit is Auto-Trail. Carthago and Frankia are worth a look for low ovens, as are Rapido.
Excellent review as usual. Looking forward to your next.
Glad you enjoyed it. NEC show review coming soon...
This is the best I have seen up to now but they all seem to favour a full height fridge over worktop space and surely a micro wave would be a better option than an oven. My question however is "What is the least rattle A class that you have driven"?
Probably a Hymer ML-I that we had on long-term test a few years ago - great build quality and softer Merc ride.
I'd always choose a gas oven over a microwave as you can use it off-grid
@@MotorhomeCampervan good point
I wonder if Adria knew who the real supersonic was aka Sid Little he’d be pleased they named it after him 😁Nice Aclass 👍🏻
Ah, Sid Little - used to love Little and Large!
I wish Adria were available in the U.S. RV design here is hopelessly stuck in the 1990s.
We get a lot of comments that the US RV industry has a lot of catching up to do!
Very nice. I just wouldn’t be happy driving something so big and expensive around U.K. country roads. Although unless I have a lottery win it’s pretty much just academic.
Maybe you need to watch our campervan reviews for something a bit more affordable and smaller. We've got three playlists devoted to campervans!
Very nice van, 👌
Thankyou for sharing.
Our pleasure!
GREAT PRESENTATION, AND WORTH A SUB :)
Thank you!
Coffee isn't optional, my intake is vitally important for the happiness & well being of people who I might meet later in the day.
Totally agree. Shall we start a campaign for bean-to-cup machines in every motorhome?
SUPER!!!👍👍👍🙂
Thank you 👍
Great review. you talked about the oven that you wanted a bigger one, isn't there a option where you can get a bigger one in exchange of some of the drawer units under the zink ?
Not that I know of but I think Adria is keeping to one spec for the UK. If that is an option then they're missing a trick with British buyers.
Hi Peter, what happened to the Wildax review that was posted a few days ago? its dissapeared.
very good vid and review as usual but i just wish you would mention FWD or RWD from the get go then i can watch on or skip. there is just no way on gods earth i would ever contemplate buying a vehicle that cant be driven on wet grass or even wet leaves. i find the whole concept of FWD motorhomes ludicrous. the info is often deliberately left out of dealers adverts . i find it quite incredible that prospective buyers are more interested in the inside of the fridge than the running gear of a 5 ton plus vehicle.
If you want RWD, then your options are very limited. Auto-Sleepers and Frankia are the only mainstream brands building coachbuilts on the rear-wheel drive Sprinter now (plus just the ML-T from Hymer).
You might find a few more options in panel vans, especially if you go 4x4.
@@MotorhomeCampervan it would help people to find more RWD options if reviewers gave the info out in the first place. After all it is a crucial factor for a buyer to take into account when making a major purchase. We aren't all mug punters at the end of the day.
Really enjoyed your review, am i right in thinking that the heating and hot water is run by LPG. If so how big is the LPG tank as i cant find that info anywhere, plus how long would it last do you think? also was there much room left on the roof for additional solar panels. Thanks Darren
The gas locker holds two 11kg cylinders; it's not a fitted LPG tank (rare on continental models). You can run the heating/boiler from gas or mains electric (when hooked up). Heating can use a lot of gas in extremely cold weather.
I'm sure you could add more solar on the roof.
If you're new to motorhoming, I'd recommend a subscription to MMM - either paper or digital - see www.outandaboutlive.co.uk/motorhomes/store/digital-archive-subscriptions/mmm-digital-archive/
Will it be available on the Sprinter 110 KW battery ( 300mile range) EV chassis 🤔.....
I would go for that 🤠👍
I can't see it in the short term. And suspect you could halve that range figure when loaded up to 4.5t and driving in winter.
@@MotorhomeCampervan My 15 year old British built 5 ton Modec campervan with 80kw li ion phosphate ( lifepo) batteries only does 80-120 mile range @ a limited 50 mph and that's using full regen at every opportunity......
So you're probably correct about Mercedes being over optimistic about 300 mile range from a 120 KWh battery pack Sprinter 🙄👍
Saw one of these on the road this week so decided to watch this ‘just out of interest’ 😂 … a bit of a step up from our camper-van but we can dream 🚐 excellent review thanks 🤩
Thank you. If you subscribe you'll see reviews of 'vans big and small
Hi Peter what a superb A class as always superbly presented . Are you e able to do one on your personal favourite vehicle ? Cheers ian
Thank you. Comments like yours are always appreciated.
My personal favourite? Well, of all the 'vans I tested last year, I probably enjoyed the Murvi Pimento most, though I'd prefer the Ford version.
The 'van I actually own is a HemBil Urban VW T6.
And the one I'm looking forward to testing is the Hymer Venture S
love your reviews and i love this motorhome, but i did notice the lack of 3 pin sockets around the kitchen area for an electric kettle for when your on a hookup. and where the mrs is going to plug in her hair dryer?
Thank you!
There is definitely a mains socket above the kitchen because I used it for my coffee machine (didn't have the pods for the fitted one). And there's another at the foot of the offside rear bed that could be used for a hair dryer. Lots and lots of USBs, too.
@@MotorhomeCampervan Oh thats good to know, definitely one to consider.
Thanks again.
Well Mr Vaughan, I'd watch and listen to your reviews if you were recording the audio with tin cans and string... 🙂👍🏻
Very kind of you! But I'll only use the tin cans as a last resort!
Hi Peter my personal best van I’ve seen you review (ever) it looks superb . Why do you think it has so many rattles ? maybe it was just the sound from your iPhone .
The rattles comes from the oven. Once that is taken care of, remove the baking sheet or add some foam between them, then there is minimal noice from the interior.
Thank you David
There were a lot of rattles, not just the oven. Unfortunately, I've found A-class models often rattle more than other coachbuilts and van conversions usually (not always!) rattle the least. That's why I recommend a test drive.
This was a very early example of the Supersonic, so maybe they'll be better further down the line.
Great review and this is certainly on our list along with a Mercedes’ based Hymer about same length with Island bed. You didn’t mention levelling. We are after hydraulic levelling is this on this van or could it be added do you know? Also I may have missed it in the video but it must have heating? Is it a wet system? Again great video I’m going to see if you have reviewed the Hymer we are looking at now!
You should be able to add a levelling system to almost any 'van - I prefer air suspension to jacks. Just be aware of the weight of any add-ons (reducing payload).
Yes, heating is 'wet' Alde system.
We've got a whole playlist of videos of A-class motorhomes - th-cam.com/play/PLB6yLqYPiJv5jYok_K-UKpvNrUp7rZcKO.html
Don't forget to look at Carthago, Frankia and Le Voyageur, as well as Hymer
@@MotorhomeCampervan
Many thanks I’ll have a look at them.
Wouw, danish warning signs in the garage!
Strange, are you sure things like the aircon are standard? I have been looking into ordering one but I did get a pretty big option list with paying options from a dealer here in Belgium.
Yes, but a lot of motorhomes get higher standard spec when sold here. With Adria there's an 'All-Inclusive Pack' which is standard on the Supersonic in the UK, but may not be in other countries.
Nice van Peter but those rattles and 156k WOW. Glad to see you've picked up some sponsorship from Baxters😂😂Cheers K.
It was only the rattles that disappointed me. Loved it otherwise.
凄く良い😊
Nice informative video
Thank you. Glad you liked it!
@@MotorhomeCampervan spare wheel?
I wish that other manufacturers would include the optional extras that aren't really optional as standard. The other thing that annoys me is that extras come bundled in packs so you might have to buy two things that you don't really want to get the one thing that you can do without.
With that moan out of the way, this is a really impressive motorhome but, unfortunately, it is a bit too big for me. If I was a little younger and Brexit hadn't added so many hassles to travelling to Europe for extended tours I might think differently.
Don't get me started on "optional" packs... I've just tested another A-class where the 'Super Package' alone adds £8,860 - and I bet you couldn't buy one without (and wouldn't want to)!
Seems devoid of locker storage. And is there any underfloor storage? Personally I wouldn't bother with an oven, I generally cook outside. You're paying a premium for a Mercedes but again, Personally, I wouldn't bother. Lack of storage is the main criticism I have.
I don't think there's any lack of storage inside the 'van but it is a technical double floor, not a storage double floor, so there's no underfloor storage.
The premium for the Merc chassis used to be huge but it's quite small now as Fiat prices have risen so fast and Fiat charges quite steeply for auto, 180 engine, sat-nav, big touchscreen, etc, etc.
Rattling along the road would drive me mad, £160k bone shaker.
Most of the new A class i have looked at are very flimsy and just not as well made as pre 2017. This looks better so i may have to take a look..
Do take a good look. The spec is excellent and I've always found Adrias to be practical and generally well made.
Oven is a real deal breaker for us, Christmas dinner needs a bigger oven hell normal dinner needs a bigger over. What a shame.
Who lives in a Motorhome like this---- people who eat out that’s who. Also the bed great for sitting up and watching TV ow no it isn’t I see the supports but what a faf.
Agreed re the oven but suspect that buyers probably eat outside (barbecue) as much as eating out.
Try the bed supports, though - not a new idea but they do work really, really well.
Hey The Caravan Club don't let you pitch up nose first. They insist you reverse on to the pitch.
Sloppy.
It's not a Caravan and Motorhome Club site, the Salisbury site seen here is Camping and Caravanning Club.
But still, most C&MC sites now let you park either way around, as long as you're between the two marker pegs.
This was a C&CC site.
wouldve preffered a rear lounge in the back
Adria doesn't offer that, but maybe you need to watch this review - th-cam.com/video/lM94tJdVCw8/w-d-xo.html There aren't many rear lounge A-classes, but here's another - th-cam.com/video/X3Ec1QaszTU/w-d-xo.html
I'm the same with regards to a rear lounge but i was blown away by this van when I saw it at the NEC in February and decided it was worth the compromise.
@@freeley34 Autotrail Apache 700 has the perfect layout for me i know its not as good quality as this but i prefer the layout
@rscosworthfan I'll give that a look later, British vans don't really appeal to me though, none of the ones I've seen have the modern look that I'm after or the build quality.
Great walkthrough as usual sir.
Surely it would be cheaper to buy from the USA and get it shipped / drive over? So so much more for your money with change to spare. Definitely rip off Britain.
Would you want an American RV? - wider, will need converting to UK/European electrics, parts supply issues... When RVs were imported here in any number (at least a decade ago), they often looked quite poor value. And the quality of many RVs is shocking in comparison with the best European brands.
@@MotorhomeCampervan Granted there are some cheap ones out there due to the RV craze, but there are many solid ones too, especially the new ones. I also find the same issue in the UK. How the European market hasn't adopted slid outs is beyond. I guess they are only interested in folk who are under 6' and 16 stone. You would have thought with their overpriced vans, they could at least include a TV at a decent size. Several Solar panels should be standard too.
MAXIMUM PAYLOAD IS 1,500 LBS ...........
721kg is 1,589lb, so yes. Not a particularly unusual figure in this class
@@MotorhomeCampervan I AM LOOKING FOR STYLE AND ADDED PAYLOAD ITS A MUST FOR CAMPING ..... THANK YOU ... M
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What the Hell it sounds like a grinder and also like it’s falling to bits. Come on £150k plus.
Let’s get silence and sort the oven out. I bet with all that spec you get a lot of problems!
Yes, too many rattles - like too many other motorhomes - but generally it seemed well built
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since trigano buyed very bad quality
Do you say that as an owner? It's not been our experience
Very bad quality since trigano buyed adria
Is that your personal experience? We've still been impressed by the Adrias we've seen
That’s crazy it’s a stunning high quality built A class
@@ianwhitehead4728 very bad quality in have one ok
We own a 2022 Adria Sonic Supreme 700 SL. And I would not say the quality is bad, once minor issues is taken care of, it is rather good in my eyes.
But there must be a lack in quality control at the factory.
Our issues has been:
1. Sentral locking not working. Bad conection between habitation door and connector in the door frame.
2. Driverdoor sometimes opens when uncloking the motorhome using the sentral locking.
3. Habitation door not closing propperly in cold/wet weather.
3. Some gaps and missalignment in the interior.
4. Bathromdoor touches the door frame.
5. Broken garage door lock catch.
6. Wood weneer is of a lesser quality than ealier Adria products, at least it seems so. I thik it will wear easier and is more prone to scratses.
The biggest issue with Adria is that they don't have a wood free construction.
You can't access the graywater tank for inspection, neither from inside or utside.
There are several hidden spaces wich should/could have been used as storage space, and it seems that without puting too much more effort into it it could have been possible to add atitional storage space by utilazing the double floor.
I could add that we where looking at Carthago, Malibu and Dethleffs also, but Adria was our choice because of the overall package.
Since we need 5 belted seats we did not have the option to go for Super Sonic as it has max 4 belted seats.