or stamkos without some of those he endured like that torn meniscus in November 2016 for example. Obviously uts incredible that despite this he is still putting up 40 ish goals a year on average and hoping he keep at it @@Lrossi18
@@hypn0298 Which is really strange when you think about it. The whole point of those scrums is to police the ice when the officials fail to. Now that these hits are actually getting called with some regularity, all the scrums do is create offsetting penalties
@@hypn0298 It was more than a really big hit. Guys stuck up for other guys all the time. It was the biggest game you could be in not some regular season game. Sure it’s more prominent now but it’s not like it never happened in the 2000’s
@@Samuel_Gonzalez35 one of the best! Besides his call when Sakic gave Bourque The Cup to raise, his call on my childhood idol, Don Mattingly's postseason home run call will always make my eyes tear up. "Whoa, hang on to the roof! Good-bye! Home run, Don Mattingly!"
One of the most bad ass moments in sports history. Scary how he just was flattened. Then doesn't just come back and score but absolutely rifles it past one of best goalies ever.
That Kariya goal to make it 4-1 is insane. What a comeback, what a story! Until you stop and realize that he wasn't even conscious enough to remember it... That is terrifying. His body is completely on autopilot - one hit away from potentially being killed
Yeah, okay buddy. That's not how concussions work. Having a concussion doesn't make you any more likely to be "killed" from another similar hit to the head. The reason athletes are pulled when they have concussions is due to longer recovery times if they continued to play, and long-term complications associated (not guarenteed) with immediate return to play, like CTE.
@@sawmill035 Three words is all it took for me to realize I was about to read the lamest shit I've read all year. My comment was exaggerating to emphasize the severity of the situation.
@@guccilibrarian4728 No it wasn't. If you were exaggerating, you would have exaggerated the _actual_ symptoms/repressions of continuing to play with concussions. For example, if I were to exaggerate the symptoms of the flu, would I say "If I don't get meds for this soon, I'll have to chop my foot off!" That makes no sense because foot pain is not a symptom of the flu. Likewise, death, or near death from a similar hit is not an attribute of concussions. Thus, it makes no sense to exaggerate it. It's just a nonsensical statement.
I’m a die hard devils fans and the magic around this moment still gives me chills. It’s easily the greatest hockey comeback story I’ve ever seen and probably ever will. I remember watching it as a child in utter disbelief and amazement. My family was speechless. No matter how badly we wanted to win that game, we just saw a guy come back to life before our eyes, shake it off and come down the ice in full confidence and rip one of the best slap shots you’ll ever see, from way out, past the renowned greatest goaltender in nhl history. And what was so strange about it was that the second you saw him enter the zone, the second he wound up for that shot… you just knew. It was like he had the power of god. It was going in the net. We were scared for kariya when he was laying motionless on the ground. We were scared for ourselves when we saw the way he came back. Off the floor and on the board is legendary.
Grew up in Orange County, by far my favorite player of all time. Guy would be put up freak numbers in this era of hockey. This goal remains one of the most hype sports moments I have ever witnessed
Same. Couldn’t agree more. Also, I was born and raised in the OC so our experiences were likely pretty similar if our age brackets were fairly close. 🤙🏻
Gary Thorne is the best hockey commentator to call an NHL game. If you go back through the core highlights up until the lockout, you will hear his calls the majority, if not more than anyone elses.
If you were lucky enough to be growing up in what I would call the Colorado/Detroit hockey days, Kariya was a name you'll never forget. Unfortunately, he was born in the wrong era: goon shot galore. Too see him play in this generation would be something special. He would be an absolute megastar today.
Best era of Hockey period. The ratings speak for themselves. People WANT to see violence and blood sport. Hence why UFC is so popular now. No one wants to publicly admit it, but we all tuned in to see Scott Stevens lay people out. Its a big part of why we loved 90's Hockey. Its human nature. I know the modern "man" is more feminized and "sensitive", but deep down, we all crave the old style blood sport. People put their lives and health on the line for the love of the game. Now, there is 100000x more money, and 10000x less risk.
This hit always makes me so mad to watch and knowing what it did for his career. This was an epic moment. One of the biggest FU's in history, but I'm glad it won't ever happen again.
not really dude. if Stevens had really wanted to murder this guy he would have. Paul Kariya was super damaged goods before this hit, this hit just practically made his concussion history come full circle. This is the hit that really FU Kariya's career not Stevens' and it was cheap shot mind you. th-cam.com/video/tid_86o9M-o/w-d-xo.html
@@GeorgeOrwell-tp8dw My sentence might have been worded poorly, but I didn't claim it ended his career. It surely didn't help and probably expedited things, though. It's just a shame overall. For him, for fans, for the game.
Honestly should've been Stevens last game in the NHL. Its absolutely shocking what players got away with back then. The fact he was STILL IN THE GAME after throwing that career altering dirty hit to the head is fucking absurd.
Kariya scored one of the most memorable Stanley Cup goals, and to think he doesn't even remember it. Those 3 days that incuded Games 6 and 7 of the series are completely blacked out from his memory. There is no way he would have been allowed to come back in today's game. That shows how very little we knew about concussions back then. It was considered simply "getting your bell rung" and then you simply shook it off and kept playing.
Kariya was my favorite player growing up. I remember watching this live, and I'll never forget the roller coaster. Never knew what he went through until decades later. Incredibly tragic what athletes go through and fans will never know about most, if any, of it.
One of the most, if not THE MOST electrifying goals in playoff history! The amount of times we tried to recreate that slapshot and capture that thrilling moment was astronomical. That playoff run for the Mighty Ducks was a great one too. The first time I was able to watch a Stanley Cup Finals in its entirety growing up
It made us kids get back up after getting your bell rung. That may have not been right, but it made you want to be tough. I took a a hit that left me with deer legs in a tourny. i played a game later that afternoon and scored and played great off pure adrenaline. That being said, this video overplays that hit. You take those risks when you lace up at that level.
@@frozenrabbit5641 yeah I never liked Lindros. He was a prick in junior, he was a prick when he got drafted, and he was a prick in the NHL. He also made a career of skating with your head down through open ice, its on you at that point. This was much more of a "headhunt" and I actually liked Kariya.
I think Kariya was actually gone for a few seconds there. You can see the breath fog up his visor when he comes back. This was the equivalent of skating full force into a brick wall
Scott Stevens was as big a goon as there ever was. Just a mean SOB. Telling that after blatant attempt to murder Kariya it didn't look like any of the other Ducks went after him.
@@kevinthekev1979 I'd argue this hit and the Lindros one are different. This is a bit late and kind of a blindside hit. Its not great. Lindros' hit was way cleaner, and the reason it was so bad was because Lindros himself had his head down and took the hit in the head as a result. I like Stevens, but this is a predatory hit on Kariya, for sure. The Lindros' hit... I don't see what other choices Stevens had besides what happened. Lindros skated right through centre ice with the puck, head down.... thats on him. Also, he shouldn't have even been on the ice anyways. Whoever cleared him medically for that game ruined his career, not Scott Stevens.
Scott Stevens wasn't a goon every year. During the 1993/94 season, Scott led the Devils in Total Points with 78. Ahead of Stephane Richer, Claude Lemieux and John MacLean.
I know this video was about Kariya and concussions but the commentator call with the goal is one of the best calls in sports history, not sure why its always overlooked when people talk about amazing calls.
Another well-produced, thought provoking video! The ending is a classic, but knowing what we know today it makes you wonder was it worth it? Keep up the great work! As we get ready for a new season -- and I can't wait -- it is really cool to remember the rich history this great sport has to offer.
It was worth it for Stevens lol, why does everyone have such a hard time leaving the past alone. Everything in the video was legal, Stevens is a legit hockey legend, it would be basically criminal now but get over it.
i think it speaks volumes that a majority of modern hockey fans like myself remember the 03 finals, not for the Devils and Stevens winning the cup, but for Kariya’s insane determination and willpower to come back from that hit
Nah, I am a devils fan, I remember it for the Stanley Cup win by the Devils. I also remember they gave the Conn Smyth award to The Ducks Goalie. First time that has happened ever, complete bullsh*t. The hit is allowed in this NHL, look at Trouba’s hit on Meier in first round of Dev/ Rag game this year. It was a complete hit to the head and yet no penalty on Trouba.
@@devilsmetsfan6393 Redwings fan here. I still remember Stevens hit on Kozlov in game 2 of the '95 Stanley Cup finals. There were 3 other goalies who won the Conn Smythe with a losing team. Roger Crozier who played with the Redwings , lost to Montreal in '66, Glenn Hall who played for St. Louis, lost to Montreal in '68 and Ron Hextall who played for Philly, lost to Edmonton in '87. Reggie Leach was the only non goalie to win the Conn Smythe with a losing team , Philly lost to Montreal in '76.
Im gonna be honest. I watched this and had totally forgotten about it. I do remember the devils and brodeur winning another cup though. I only remember winners personally so i can’t relate.
Great video, the fact that Anaheim used that ice level shot of him celebrating the goal for years while the man himself couldn't remember it is tragic. I remember feeling so worried for him watching that game, it wasn't the first time he'd had concussion problems, I would not have been surprised if he had never played again. Seeing him come back out like nothing happened was as thrilling as it was horrifying. One minor correction, that first round series against Detroit was hardly hard-fought and definitely not 7 games, it was a 4 game sweep, one of two they had that run, the other against Minnesota in the 3rd round.
I don't really like softening up sports but something like that where the dude was clearly trying to injure him that's not sports, that's malice and pretty fucking disgusting.
Even back in 2003, that was a clear missed call. He didn't have the puck for a good 1-2 seconds when Stevens leveled him. That was interference, clear as day.
The players sign the dotted line, they know the risks. It's a contact sport. Same with NFL, any hit could result in serious injury including parallelization and even death. Even in middle school and high school football your parents sign those waivers. It's the nature of a sport with physical contact.
this is true but gary straight up said that there is no evidence connecting hockey related concussions to CTE like.... yeah there is.... obviously the players agreed to it and it is the nature of the game but denying it altogether is just wrong, gary. i mean the NFL actually somewhat cares about CTE in its players. @@yakivpopavich
@@yakivpopavich for decades the NHL and NFL did everything they can to deny CTE and long term serious effects of concussions, even so much as shut down studies. For a while all players knew signing that contract meant at most breaking a bone or knocking out for a few seconds
I was at that game. I was walking back to my seats waiting at the end of the tunnel right above the blueline when Kariya was skating up. THUD!!! Man that was a hard hit...you could hear it and feel it. The crowd gasped and was stunned. I remember how fired up the fans were when Kariya unexpectedly returned. And when he scored the place went ballistic One of the best games ive been to. The Ducks won all their home games(3) but so did NJ (4) and that was that The Devils were a machine during the 10 yrs span of 94 to 04
I’ve just got into hockey about late into 2023 and watching this video, seeing him pass out, the breath that fogger his helmet visor completely gave me chills. So glad this won’t happen again, sad that legendary breathtaking games like these wont happen again.
The look on Stevens face when he came back on the ice . He was thinking I should have got my elbow up higher . For a guy that concussed so many players , I guess it’s only fitting that his career was shortened by concussion issues .
Too many talents had their careers shortened by too many thugs. The game suffered as a result. Not only Kariya, but also Mike Bossy. Mario Lemieux soured on the game because of the blatant hitting. Any fan of any team can name at least one player who should have been around longer but wasn't because of head shots.
Such a delusional take. You're not a pro hockey player, you're not cool because grown men you fantasize about on tv used to hit people hard, you're a concussed child who never grew up. How many youth hockey programs around the country are struggling because parents now adays value their kid's future over their own delusions, and would rather put them in a sport that doesn't permanently damage their brains. How much do you think the level of hockey is going to decline because fewer people are playing it young? It's time to do some growing up of your own. @@friedsensei
@@84SuperBeast Not everyone. I'm a fan of the game of hockey before I'm a fan of any one particular team, and late hits to the head with the intent to injure (or even unintentionally kill) are bad for the game, no matter what jersey the teams are wearing
I remember this game. Kariyas goal is one of my fondest memories as a ducksfan, even with the backstory. When he scored that goal it broke the momentum -meter. We all felt that no matter what the ducks could never lose that game with the momentum they had there.
Hardest slap-shot of all time. There is no question. You can tell me Bourque, Z, none of them had THAT type of emotion, energy, anger, whatever you want to call it.
As a life long Kings & Pens fan I was never a Paul Kariya fan but watching that live when it happened was unbelievable. Everyone thought he was all but dead & he comes back to do that. Amazing!
I remember being 13 years old and staying up late for all the Ducks games and this moment gave me chills and does to this day. Too bad they couldn't have won it all
Man, it’s awful he got hurt so bad but this is one of the greatest goals scored in the Stanley Cup Finals. “Off the floor, on the board” Paul Kariya 🥰🥰🥰he was a huge factor in the 2002 Canadian gold medal at the Salt Lake City Olympics.
He was one of my favorite players, always will be. I watched him at a few games... off the bench and in 3 strides already up to top speed. Such an explosive skater.
As a Red Wings fan, I remember going into that 1997 series against the Ducks. No one was getting too cocky. The Ducks were basically a one-line team which should be no match for Detroit's depth at the time, but that one line had Paul Kariya and Teemu Selane, so that line was certainly capable of winning a playoff series all by itself. In the end Detroit swept the Ducks, but it was no ordinary sweep, as three of the four games went to overtime. Clearly it was a close series despite the final series score, and the Ducks earned a lot of respect for playing such a tough series in their playoff debut against the eventual champions.
The 2003 series was basically the "bizarro world" version of the 1997 series. The Red Wings once again dominated play while firing pucks at a brick wall...only to see their efforts go unrewarded this time around as Anaheim kept getting the final goal, instead. It was one of the most notoriously stolen series I had ever watched. It made me sick.
@@SamPedroCactus I disagree. NHL goaltenders, much like MLB ace pitchers, can shut an opposing offense down singlehandedly. This was especially true during the Dead Puck Era (1994-2004). I put the Game 2 loss on Curtis Joseph for letting in some bad goals, but otherwise there was nothing else for the Red Wings to do differently.
@@michaelvandeginste3497 I get you. I think the Wings were the better team most of the series but can't look back on it as close because the Wings never won a game. Game 2 was interesting, I remember Krog and Thomas scored late in the 3rd but can't find any video of the game itself.
@@SamPedroCactus I get you, too. I think dropping the first two at home kind of broke them. They remembered the stressful first-round grind vs. Vancouver the year before and were like, "ugh, not this again!"
I love to watch scoring in hockey. The incredible precision of the score, loud sirens, and the players flying around the ice on their skates in celebration is just awesome.
I remember watching that game live on tv. I was never a big Paul Kariya fan. But that was one of the most amazing things I’ve ever seen in hockey. Still gives me chills just watching the highlight.
The NHL is still more or less in the dark ages when it comes to player safety. Changes are happening but it's not enough and implementation is slow. I really do hope nothing like this happens again... but I fear it may be inevitable.
Yup, don't remember if it was 2018 or 19, but soon after the Caps Cup win Michal Kempny had a similar situation happen. Took a head-shot, came back from concussion protocol, scored, and then it turned out later that he was blacked out the whole time. Obviously it wasn't as bad a hit as this, he didn't get knocked out or lose three days, but he still should never have been let back on the ice. Then again, I also don't think players should be allowed to play through fractures the way they always seem to during the playoffs, so idk maybe I'm just soft.
bro, how fortunate for everybody that the NHL is cracking down on this stuff. There might be people who wish for the old times to return (bevause there always are), but leagues like the NHL and the NFL protecting their players from concussions is a good thing for sure
Folks got familes and lives after the sport, i'll never understand the people who call the sport "soft" cause there aren't people trying to murder each other like they did 20 years ago
I’m super new to hockey but mad respect and admiration for Kariya’s sheer will power and determination. Imagine you couldn’t do what you love or even remember it. It would be so depressing and devastating. This also made me sad and tear up a little. I know shit happens by accident or not in hockey and this is naive, but still I wish everyone would still be safe and not suffer from injuries while doing what they love. Happy to just watch hockey for now.
@@LastLetterisZed702 Kariya in today's NHL would be there among Draistl, MacKinnon, Matthews... (I won't pretend McDavid). Just look at his stats in his NCAA Freshman year! That type of player, in the 90-00's area, could not impose their style of play like they do today. Teams needed big hitting forwards like Lindros and Forsberg, because of what defensemen were allowed to do. But even that physical type of game was hard on them, and both Forsberg and Lindros had shortened careers.
I remember when I first got to the age where we started checking around this time, guys would get absolutely annihilated, clearly go out, and then get back to the bench where the coach would just ask how many fingers he was holding up, and then get back on the ice. Knowledge about head injuries has certainly come a long way
This is a straight Hajime no Ippo moment. Pure instinct. The will to win. The will to push his teammates to the cup. A crazy guy and a pure soul. Nothing can match that.
2003 it was a legal hit. You cant look at older eras through the lens of today's rules. 2 line passes were also illegal, you could hook, you could hold, goalies could play the puck in the corners, there were illegal stick curves; totally different game
@@michaelmignone5869 man the comment section on this video has really restored my faith haha , well said dude. Also, there's zero chance this dude doesn't have to google what a two line pass is.
@@michaelmignone5869it was a blindsided hit to the head. There's no excusing that even if the refereeing was shit back then. Slavery was legal back in the days, would you try to justify it now?
Ik it wasn't right to let him come back but that slapshot still gives me goosebumps. He came back from the dead and gave 'em a f8ck you with a capital F and buried that shit in the net. I watched this live as a kid and you can't script anything better than this
I know someone that used to know Stevens. He said he's one of the biggest dicks that was ever in the NHL. Supposedly, he would tell people off if they saw him in public and spoke to him. I'm sure it wasn't everyone, all the time. But still. If you want to play the highest level of a sport, expect people to walk up to you in public. So basically, Stevens wasn't just a bad person on the ice.... he was simply a bad person that took advantage of the lack of head hunting rules. The worst part about his play, a lot of these hits that you see from him that really hurt guys, they're mostly blatant interference. So even if the head was legal to hit, they still should've been penalties. But, like true rigged BS, the only people that got protected by the NHL were Mario, Gretzky, Jagr, Crosby, and McDavid. All players that NHL has basically sponsored.
You are clearly lying, as he's one of the nicest people to have ever played in the league, actually. After games, when other players would rush to the team bus, he would hold the bus for hrs, making sure to sign every autograph, greet every fan, pose for every picture, until all the kids and fans were happy. You should delete this blatant lie.
@@rigafraction1653 All I did was convey second hand knowledge. If I wanted to lie about him, I would've just said that I met him and he said x,y, and z. But I didn't. All I did was restate something someone that worked with him, told me about him. To be fair, I'm a Flyers fan and the same guy worked with Pronger and told me that he's one of the biggest dicks too. He named 3 people. Stevens, Pronger, and Getzlaf. He said similar things about all of them. However, he also said that they treated the staff worse than the fans. And as someone that has met Pronger, I can say that it's easy to be Mr. Nice Guy when everyone is watching. He was nice and said hello and signed my nephew's jersey. For all I know, he was cussing us all out, in his head. So, even if you're being truthful, and somehow know all of that stuff, it doesn't change a thing. I didn't say that I know him. Maybe the guy that worked with them was lying. Maybe he was pissed about something those guys did to him. I don't know. I just know what I'm told. Anyway, the rest is 100% objective. Like I said, he was objectively a terrible human being, on the ice. So, even if all of that stuff you said is true (which I could simply throw that back at you and call you a liar), it doesn't change who he was when it actually mattered (in terms of his career). When everyone was watching, he was a piece of garbage. He could've waited for an autograph line for 40 days and nights and it doesn't make him less of a scumbag where it actually mattered. The ice. The rest is hearsay.
As a Devils fan, and generally a lover of a good open ice hit. I don't want to see anyone injured. Yeah, it's the style for hockey players to play through anything. But the brain. No. Kariya doesn't remember the goal he scored.
I'm not even a hockey fan and just wow! Also, I now know why they don't beat the crap out of each other anymore. Because it's hockey not MMA? When did that end? Remember how football used to be? The entire defense used to pile up on one single player. Talk about a polyester pile-up! Did I imagine that? Or did they actually used to pile into a 9-10 man tangle and spend the next few minutes untangling? I'm talking the 1970's
I wouldn't mind being in an alternate universe where Scott Stevens got his career cut short instead of Kariya... jus sayin. One of those players was an unreal talent. The other was just an ill-spirited goon who could occasionally put together a true top line performance. Totally floated by a stacked team for his career's most notable moments. We saw what he became when the dynasty crumbled. Stevens is easily among my all-time least favorites. At least guys like Derek Boogaard were good dudes off the ice... Stevens is just a prick by his very nature.
His career was cut short. This wasn't Kariya's first or last concussion. That's a scummy comment. Both players were supreme talents, one captained his team to several cup wins, the other was one of the more gifted forward in the game You clearly know NOTHING about the nonsense you spew here
Definition at the start is scuffed. You don't need to lose consciousness to get a concussion..... and loosing consciousness does not guarantee an concussion either.
Scott Stevens blindsiding the smallest man on the ice when he didn't even have the puck is such a pathetic, disgusting move. Why not just swing the stick and take his head off? It was about as respectable as Tonya Harding attempting to take out Kerrigan. Stevens permanently tarnished his reputation here.
This is an ignorant comment. In that day and age it was a LEGAL hit. Many people said Kariya "got caught admiring his pass." When Scotty Stevens was on the ice everyone knew to keep their head on swivel or he might catch you. Kariya got caught with a clean, open ice hit. Here's a bit of trivia for you: in Stevens' entire career, he took a total of 4 elbowing penalties. That's it. He wasn't a dirty player (at least not in a Devils uniform). He played the game the same way as everyone did in that time period.
@@TheStromzilla Everything you said is subjective, other than the elbowing stat. Scott was a predatory player who looked for players in vulnerable positions with the intent of hurting them, legal or not. Kariya took three full strides after releasing that pass before Stevens put a shoulder into his head. Three. I don't care if Stevens had 4 elbowing penalty minutes or 400; that hit on Kariya is a pure p*ssy move by a supposed tough man defenseman. That's probably why Tie Domi called him the biggest phony he ever played against. "That guy used to target all the best players on my teams and I always tried to fight him, and he would never fight,” Domi said. “He never, ever answered the bell."
@@Greatscott24 Look up Tie Domi Scott Neidermeyer and then tell me how you'd take that POS's word about who was a dirty player. Check how many suspensions each player served for dirty hits. Stevens was feared, but his hits were clean by the standard of the game when he played it. The idea that Stevens shied away from fighting is utterly laughable. He probably didn't want to waste time with Domi, the pint-sized piss-ant. FYI: As a lifelong Devils fan, I was on my feet cheering for Kariya in this moment. I don't want people getting hurt in the game and I'm glad for the rules changes. But throwing shade at former players for playing in a legal manner in their era is a crappy thing to do.
@@TheStromzilla we can agree to disagree. As a wings fan, I feel pretty similarly about Kronwall as I do Stevens, and that puts me in the minority. Almost all of his hits were legal as well, but I really hate the intent to injure.
CTE and concussion concerns and the actions the DOPS have taken have already seriously changed the game. Compare a decade or so ago's seasons stats to now. 50% or higher reduction in the number of fighting majors and hits. There is no line brawls anymore. There are few if any goalie fights and most are prevented from occurring. Enforcement and fighting as a whole is almost completely and totally phased out, less than 12 players left in the league without visors. What's interesting is the studies on head injuries in hockey have shown that the majority of them come from hits and body checks, not fights. Based on that and how hitting is now being looked at way more closely I would suspect hitting numbers to continue to decline as well as fighting too obviously. I wouldn't be shocked if they just took out all physical contact and within a decade or two the NHL and AHL were like some European leagues. Stick checking only. I'm all for player safety, but hockey had always been a physical sport. There is a lot more speed and skill now in the NHL but it's a shame the grit and tenacity and mean energy is almost all gone.
Kings fan but loved Kariya and Selanne. Embarrassing that all this was allowed. Back then if players did not come back after concussion their commitment and loyalty was questioned by everyone. The fans were just as much the problem as the league was. Glad to hear that he’s enjoying his life as an avid surfer in SoCal.
The nhl should have set an example out of Steven’s. He was nothing more than a goon who ended so many careers. Predatory hits like the one on Paul Kariya have no place in hockey. They should have kick him out earlier.
@@LastLetterisZed702 A goon is a guy who cheap-shots other players; Stevens was definitely a goon. (If you want to say you can't be good and also a goon, then sure, by that definition he isn't. He was definitely very good. But one of the biggest cheap-shot artists I've ever seen. Easily THE biggest if we're only counting top-6 Fs, top-4 D. I was born in StL but grew up in WSH, so while I have a soft spot for the Blues, I'm a die-hard Caps fan; naturally watching East Coast games much more than West, I may be underrating Pronger. Based on what I've heard, he's way up there too. But I simply didn't watch him enough.)
Head contact in the NHL is not actually illegal. Targetting the head (or picking the head) is illegal. This hit on Kariya is still legal in todays NHL as long as it's not late. Late being defined as over .5 of a second after the puck leaves the players stick. This is the allowance to see, process, and change course (reaction time). Head contact is considered incidental contact when delivering a full body check (hitting into the body). The head can even be the principle point of contact and still be legal. Targeting the head is when the head is principle point of contact without hitting into the body (delivering a full body check). The DoP put out a video years ago explaining the hard hits and head contact rules called "Player Safety: Hard Legal Hits". It shows several examples of hard legal hits, even with the head being principle point of contact. Then shows several examples of illegal head contact explaining why they are illegal. Heres the link: th-cam.com/video/GornRqDMS_g/w-d-xo.html Now whether a player would be allowed to return to the game after a hit like Kariya's is another matter. But players even today do return after going through head contact protocall. I think the prudent choice would be to keep the player out for the game if virtually or fully knocked unconscious. Even if obviously dazed or wobbly. But it is still up to medical staff and the player. There is no NHL rule barring a player from returning even if knocked unconscious. But again, the prudent action is not letting the player return even if he wants to, then re-assess the player the following day. Which happens the vast majority of the time today under those circumstances. That aspect for player safety is much better compared to when this Kariya hit occured.
He feels no remorse. Hits like that were allowed and checks like that were his bread and butter. I don't approve of it and it's scary to watch but that's just how the game was back then.
@@keithck3720He knew exactly what he was doing with those hits, complete attempt to seriously injure. Just because it was technically allowed, shouldn't be a reason to head hunt.
He felt worse than anyone in the building after the clean hit, his thoughts were, "get up, Paul". He was relieved when Kariya returned and played the rest of the series to win the Cup.
@@keithck3720 Partly true, he felt bad about it, but it was part of the game, injuries happen and he's not there to babysit the other players, he's there to play tough hockey
This man’s TH-cam channel is a godsend. Always insightful and entertaining. I love how his videos are usually about small details that are overlooked but have big consequences. Shout out to hockey psychology
Kariya was an almost generational talent. Just imagine what he would've accomplished without all the concussions. I'm glad he got into the HoF.
100% now imagine and ask urself the same question about crosby.
Gary Suter did more to ruin his career than anyone
or stamkos without some of those he endured like that torn meniscus in November 2016 for example. Obviously uts incredible that despite this he is still putting up 40 ish goals a year on average and hoping he keep at it @@Lrossi18
My all time favorite player. Such a shame we never got to see his full potential
What he could have accomplished in today's NHL.
The second worst thing for Kariya was no one on the team beat Stevens ass.
nobody could...well maybe Babs coulda mentally fucked him lol
Scrums / sticking up for teammate after a big hit didn’t really get that common until the end of the 2000s
@@hypn0298 Which is really strange when you think about it. The whole point of those scrums is to police the ice when the officials fail to. Now that these hits are actually getting called with some regularity, all the scrums do is create offsetting penalties
@@hypn0298 It was more than a really big hit. Guys stuck up for other guys all the time. It was the biggest game you could be in not some regular season game. Sure it’s more prominent now but it’s not like it never happened in the 2000’s
Someone should have ended Stevens career.
"Off the floor, on the board"
Commentators really make these moments iconic in every sport.
Wrd
That's the great Gary Thorne for ya. He is terrific.
@@Samuel_Gonzalez35 one of the best! Besides his call when Sakic gave Bourque The Cup to raise, his call on my childhood idol, Don Mattingly's postseason home run call will always make my eyes tear up. "Whoa, hang on to the roof! Good-bye! Home run, Don Mattingly!"
John Davidson: I've got goosebumps
Bill Clemente: Make that 3 of us, and I haven't even asked Gary yet.
One of the most bad ass moments in sports history. Scary how he just was flattened. Then doesn't just come back and score but absolutely rifles it past one of best goalies ever.
That Kariya goal to make it 4-1 is insane. What a comeback, what a story! Until you stop and realize that he wasn't even conscious enough to remember it... That is terrifying. His body is completely on autopilot - one hit away from potentially being killed
Yeah, okay buddy. That's not how concussions work. Having a concussion doesn't make you any more likely to be "killed" from another similar hit to the head.
The reason athletes are pulled when they have concussions is due to longer recovery times if they continued to play, and long-term complications associated (not guarenteed) with immediate return to play, like CTE.
@@sawmill035 Three words is all it took for me to realize I was about to read the lamest shit I've read all year. My comment was exaggerating to emphasize the severity of the situation.
@@guccilibrarian4728 No it wasn't. If you were exaggerating, you would have exaggerated the _actual_ symptoms/repressions of continuing to play with concussions.
For example, if I were to exaggerate the symptoms of the flu, would I say "If I don't get meds for this soon, I'll have to chop my foot off!"
That makes no sense because foot pain is not a symptom of the flu. Likewise, death, or near death from a similar hit is not an attribute of concussions. Thus, it makes no sense to exaggerate it. It's just a nonsensical statement.
SO MANY SNOWFLAKES
@@sawmill035second impact syndrome can kill you
I’m a die hard devils fans and the magic around this moment still gives me chills. It’s easily the greatest hockey comeback story I’ve ever seen and probably ever will. I remember watching it as a child in utter disbelief and amazement. My family was speechless. No matter how badly we wanted to win that game, we just saw a guy come back to life before our eyes, shake it off and come down the ice in full confidence and rip one of the best slap shots you’ll ever see, from way out, past the renowned greatest goaltender in nhl history. And what was so strange about it was that the second you saw him enter the zone, the second he wound up for that shot… you just knew. It was like he had the power of god. It was going in the net. We were scared for kariya when he was laying motionless on the ground. We were scared for ourselves when we saw the way he came back. Off the floor and on the board is legendary.
Well said.
devils suck
If Kariya had died there, Stevens would've been banned from the NHL for life and most likely arrested for assault. Dude was an absolute goon.
@@rogerjoseph2532cry more, boy 😂
@@Jerseys4Hope😂😂😂
Grew up in Orange County, by far my favorite player of all time. Guy would be put up freak numbers in this era of hockey. This goal remains one of the most hype sports moments I have ever witnessed
I remember being at a game where Kariya scored on n his knees on a breakaway while being hooked on a for sure penalty shot play.
He 100% played in the wrong era. Easy 120-130-point player today with a solid team around him.
@@evanbrown2594 thats a stretch a big one easily a 130 point player lol was every 90 point guy from that era also 130 point player
@@jasonanderson5034 Kariya would be putting up McDavid numbers if he was in his prime playing today
Same. Couldn’t agree more. Also, I was born and raised in the OC so our experiences were likely pretty similar if our age brackets were fairly close. 🤙🏻
7:30 wow I love that quote
“Off the Floor, On the Board”
That’s some poetic commentating right there
Gary Thorne is the best hockey commentator to call an NHL game. If you go back through the core highlights up until the lockout, you will hear his calls the majority, if not more than anyone elses.
If you were lucky enough to be growing up in what I would call the Colorado/Detroit hockey days, Kariya was a name you'll never forget. Unfortunately, he was born in the wrong era: goon shot galore. Too see him play in this generation would be something special. He would be an absolute megastar today.
MAN. No lies detected, truth oozing from your words. Could you imagine, him with Teemu in 2007, OMG, That would be unstoppable.
I believe I actually saw Kariya play at the world famous Broadmoor World arena when I was skating there. That would have been in the 70s
So sad that that era is gone. A shame they try so hard to take everything good about the game out
I consider it the Dallas Stars days. The team that won it besides all those boring fuckin' dead puck era seasons.
Best era of Hockey period. The ratings speak for themselves. People WANT to see violence and blood sport. Hence why UFC is so popular now. No one wants to publicly admit it, but we all tuned in to see Scott Stevens lay people out. Its a big part of why we loved 90's Hockey. Its human nature. I know the modern "man" is more feminized and "sensitive", but deep down, we all crave the old style blood sport. People put their lives and health on the line for the love of the game. Now, there is 100000x more money, and 10000x less risk.
This hit always makes me so mad to watch and knowing what it did for his career. This was an epic moment. One of the biggest FU's in history, but I'm glad it won't ever happen again.
not really dude. if Stevens had really wanted to murder this guy he would have. Paul Kariya was super damaged goods before this hit, this hit just practically made his concussion history come full circle. This is the hit that really FU Kariya's career not Stevens' and it was cheap shot mind you. th-cam.com/video/tid_86o9M-o/w-d-xo.html
He missed games both previous seasons with concussions. This hit didn’t end his career, it was just the final of way to many concussions
@@GeorgeOrwell-tp8dw My sentence might have been worded poorly, but I didn't claim it ended his career. It surely didn't help and probably expedited things, though. It's just a shame overall. For him, for fans, for the game.
Honestly should've been Stevens last game in the NHL. Its absolutely shocking what players got away with back then. The fact he was STILL IN THE GAME after throwing that career altering dirty hit to the head is fucking absurd.
@@whitepaws60 that was real hockey, something we don't have any more. Now we have speed skating with a net.
Kariya scored one of the most memorable Stanley Cup goals, and to think he doesn't even remember it. Those 3 days that incuded Games 6 and 7 of the series are completely blacked out from his memory.
There is no way he would have been allowed to come back in today's game. That shows how very little we knew about concussions back then. It was considered simply "getting your bell rung" and then you simply shook it off and kept playing.
Can’t imagine what it would’ve been like if the Ducks had won that game 7 and Paul not even remembering lifting the cup.
Never knew this story as I became an NHL fan years after this era, but wow, what a story. Thank you!!
This is why Wayne had Mcsorley on his line.
Kariya is one tough dude & that's how it was back then. Glad to see this sport evolving
Kariya was my favorite player growing up. I remember watching this live, and I'll never forget the roller coaster.
Never knew what he went through until decades later. Incredibly tragic what athletes go through and fans will never know about most, if any, of it.
Me too, bro. Poster on the wall, stood outside the ‘Done and got my Ducks jersey signed… So sad he got everything cut short.
I have his rookie card.
One of the most, if not THE MOST electrifying goals in playoff history! The amount of times we tried to recreate that slapshot and capture that thrilling moment was astronomical. That playoff run for the Mighty Ducks was a great one too. The first time I was able to watch a Stanley Cup Finals in its entirety growing up
It made us kids get back up after getting your bell rung. That may have not been right, but it made you want to be tough. I took a a hit that left me with deer legs in a tourny. i played a game later that afternoon and scored and played great off pure adrenaline.
That being said, this video overplays that hit. You take those risks when you lace up at that level.
idk what’s better, this or martinez’s goal in 2014
Glad you got to see the better team win it.
That blast that Kariya laid down after getting slammed the way he did is nothing short of legendary.
his career pretty heavily mirrors Lindros'
I actually thought this was a re-upload just because a similar thing happened to Lindros
Is this not a reupload? 😅
Except he played a different style of hockey, didn't constantly have his head down, and wasn't an asshole.
Kariya was not a power forward like Lindros
Well with Lindros it was little bit of karma raining on his dome. One of those player whose concussions you can look at without feeling too bad.
@@frozenrabbit5641 yeah I never liked Lindros. He was a prick in junior, he was a prick when he got drafted, and he was a prick in the NHL. He also made a career of skating with your head down through open ice, its on you at that point. This was much more of a "headhunt" and I actually liked Kariya.
I think Kariya was actually gone for a few seconds there. You can see the breath fog up his visor when he comes back. This was the equivalent of skating full force into a brick wall
Worse than a "brick wall" cause Stevens was coming at him with speed and charged up the hit!
A brick wall wouldn't shove into you...
more like skating full force into a car, theres momentum and speed on the other side
I never followed Paul Kariya's career back then, but this video was exceptional. Thank you for highlighting this amazing player.
Scott Stevens was as big a goon as there ever was. Just a mean SOB. Telling that after blatant attempt to murder Kariya it didn't look like any of the other Ducks went after him.
And yet people still yell "keep you head up" and "clean!" after a dangerous hit.
Scary guy with those open ice hits. He also basically ended lindros career imo
Ruined Lindros’ career as well
@@kevinthekev1979 I'd argue this hit and the Lindros one are different. This is a bit late and kind of a blindside hit. Its not great. Lindros' hit was way cleaner, and the reason it was so bad was because Lindros himself had his head down and took the hit in the head as a result. I like Stevens, but this is a predatory hit on Kariya, for sure. The Lindros' hit... I don't see what other choices Stevens had besides what happened. Lindros skated right through centre ice with the puck, head down.... thats on him. Also, he shouldn't have even been on the ice anyways. Whoever cleared him medically for that game ruined his career, not Scott Stevens.
Scott Stevens wasn't a goon every year. During the 1993/94 season, Scott led the Devils in Total Points with 78. Ahead of Stephane Richer, Claude Lemieux and John MacLean.
Honestly one of the most magical moments in hockey history! Thank you for honoring it
I know this video was about Kariya and concussions but the commentator call with the goal is one of the best calls in sports history, not sure why its always overlooked when people talk about amazing calls.
could be because they ended up losing the series
Gary Throne is a beast
Greatest call of all time
I love how gary tees it up.with " Kariya...the fans want one.."
@@davidpitts5851 THAT PART. THAT PART.
Excellent video, what a legacy Paul kariya!!
Another well-produced, thought provoking video! The ending is a classic, but knowing what we know today it makes you wonder was it worth it? Keep up the great work! As we get ready for a new season -- and I can't wait -- it is really cool to remember the rich history this great sport has to offer.
It was worth it for Stevens lol, why does everyone have such a hard time leaving the past alone. Everything in the video was legal, Stevens is a legit hockey legend, it would be basically criminal now but get over it.
i think it speaks volumes that a majority of modern hockey fans like myself remember the 03 finals, not for the Devils and Stevens winning the cup, but for Kariya’s insane determination and willpower to come back from that hit
Nah, I am a devils fan, I remember it for the Stanley Cup win by the Devils. I also remember they gave the Conn Smyth award to The Ducks Goalie. First time that has happened ever, complete bullsh*t. The hit is allowed in this NHL, look at Trouba’s hit on Meier in first round of Dev/ Rag game this year. It was a complete hit to the head and yet no penalty on Trouba.
@@devilsmetsfan6393 Redwings fan here. I still remember Stevens hit on Kozlov in game 2 of the '95 Stanley Cup finals. There were 3 other goalies who won the Conn Smythe with a losing team. Roger Crozier who played with the Redwings , lost to Montreal in '66, Glenn Hall who played for St. Louis, lost to Montreal in '68 and Ron Hextall who played for Philly, lost to Edmonton in '87. Reggie Leach was the only non goalie to win the Conn Smythe with a losing team , Philly lost to Montreal in '76.
Speak for yourself man. Jesus, you actually think you speak for the majority of people who watched this series? What an enormous ego you have.
Im gonna be honest. I watched this and had totally forgotten about it. I do remember the devils and brodeur winning another cup though. I only remember winners personally so i can’t relate.
@@devilsmetsfan6393 cope and seethe
Great video, the fact that Anaheim used that ice level shot of him celebrating the goal for years while the man himself couldn't remember it is tragic.
I remember feeling so worried for him watching that game, it wasn't the first time he'd had concussion problems, I would not have been surprised if he had never played again. Seeing him come back out like nothing happened was as thrilling as it was horrifying.
One minor correction, that first round series against Detroit was hardly hard-fought and definitely not 7 games, it was a 4 game sweep, one of two they had that run, the other against Minnesota in the 3rd round.
It’s insane to think there was ever a time when that wasn’t a suspension, or even a penalty at all.
I don't really like softening up sports but something like that where the dude was clearly trying to injure him that's not sports, that's malice and pretty fucking disgusting.
Even back in 2003, that was a clear missed call. He didn't have the puck for a good 1-2 seconds when Stevens leveled him. That was interference, clear as day.
@@tomsnowden6201 Yeah. There's a difference between clean but hard hitting sports and a blatant attempt to take someone off the ice with a dirty shot.
@@tomsnowden6201 Malice? that was hockey in that era. Legal hit for the time, no call was made because there was nothing to call.
@@pomerlain8924 no call was made because there was nothing to call.
and yet gary bettman will still deny CTE like a ton of former NHLers haven't been diagnosed with it...
Bettman needs to receive a hit like that. If there was a video of it I would watch it at least daily.
The players sign the dotted line, they know the risks. It's a contact sport. Same with NFL, any hit could result in serious injury including parallelization and even death. Even in middle school and high school football your parents sign those waivers. It's the nature of a sport with physical contact.
this is true but gary straight up said that there is no evidence connecting hockey related concussions to CTE like.... yeah there is.... obviously the players agreed to it and it is the nature of the game but denying it altogether is just wrong, gary. i mean the NFL actually somewhat cares about CTE in its players. @@yakivpopavich
RIP Chris Simon
@@yakivpopavich for decades the NHL and NFL did everything they can to deny CTE and long term serious effects of concussions, even so much as shut down studies. For a while all players knew signing that contract meant at most breaking a bone or knocking out for a few seconds
This might be the best hockey video I've ever seen. The content on this channel is so far above anything else out there.
I was at that game. I was walking back to my seats waiting at the end of the tunnel right above the blueline when Kariya was skating up. THUD!!! Man that was a hard hit...you could hear it and feel it. The crowd gasped and was stunned.
I remember how fired up the fans were when Kariya unexpectedly returned. And when he scored the place went ballistic
One of the best games ive been to. The Ducks won all their home games(3) but so did NJ (4) and that was that
The Devils were a machine during the 10 yrs span of 94 to 04
One of the most boring stretches of hockey of all time. So much better from 2004-present after this bullshit dead puck era.
@@Jerseys4Hope😂
I’ve just got into hockey about late into 2023 and watching this video, seeing him pass out, the breath that fogger his helmet visor completely gave me chills. So glad this won’t happen again, sad that legendary breathtaking games like these wont happen again.
The look on Stevens face when he came back on the ice . He was thinking I should have got my elbow up higher . For a guy that concussed so many players , I guess it’s only fitting that his career was shortened by concussion issues .
I wonder if he feels bad now.
@@Thumper17His own physical being ,yes . All those dirty hits , who knows .
What an asshole comment based on nothing...
One of the most despicable players in North American pro sports.
Great video. You wrapped it up with real purpose and drove home the gravity of the moment.
Too many talents had their careers shortened by too many thugs. The game suffered as a result. Not only Kariya, but also Mike Bossy. Mario Lemieux soured on the game because of the blatant hitting. Any fan of any team can name at least one player who should have been around longer but wasn't because of head shots.
Such a delusional take. You're not a pro hockey player, you're not cool because grown men you fantasize about on tv used to hit people hard, you're a concussed child who never grew up. How many youth hockey programs around the country are struggling because parents now adays value their kid's future over their own delusions, and would rather put them in a sport that doesn't permanently damage their brains. How much do you think the level of hockey is going to decline because fewer people are playing it young? It's time to do some growing up of your own. @@friedsensei
@@friedsenseithick skulled comment
and everyone loves the bullies on their team that roughed up the other teams star players
@@84SuperBeast Not everyone. I'm a fan of the game of hockey before I'm a fan of any one particular team, and late hits to the head with the intent to injure (or even unintentionally kill) are bad for the game, no matter what jersey the teams are wearing
@@friedsenseiwow so edgy. Way to sound like the biggest douche in the world there buddy.
Beautifully put together video, thank you for this.
Scott Stevens, one of the dirtiest players in NHL history.
Facts
Great video! This randomly showed up in my recommendeds and I'm glad I took a chance on it.
I remember this game. Kariyas goal is one of my fondest memories as a ducksfan, even with the backstory. When he scored that goal it broke the momentum -meter. We all felt that no matter what the ducks could never lose that game with the momentum they had there.
Hardest slap-shot of all time. There is no question. You can tell me Bourque, Z, none of them had THAT type of emotion, energy, anger, whatever you want to call it.
Vancouver all the way
As a life long Kings & Pens fan I was never a Paul Kariya fan but watching that live when it happened was unbelievable. Everyone thought he was all but dead & he comes back to do that. Amazing!
I remember being 13 years old and staying up late for all the Ducks games and this moment gave me chills and does to this day. Too bad they couldn't have won it all
That "Off the floor, on the board! Paul Kariya!" call has been, and will keep on, living rent free in my head, forever.
Man, it’s awful he got hurt so bad but this is one of the greatest goals scored in the Stanley Cup Finals. “Off the floor, on the board” Paul Kariya 🥰🥰🥰he was a huge factor in the 2002 Canadian gold medal at the Salt Lake City Olympics.
He was one of my favorite players, always will be. I watched him at a few games... off the bench and in 3 strides already up to top speed. Such an explosive skater.
As a Red Wings fan, I remember going into that 1997 series against the Ducks. No one was getting too cocky. The Ducks were basically a one-line team which should be no match for Detroit's depth at the time, but that one line had Paul Kariya and Teemu Selane, so that line was certainly capable of winning a playoff series all by itself.
In the end Detroit swept the Ducks, but it was no ordinary sweep, as three of the four games went to overtime. Clearly it was a close series despite the final series score, and the Ducks earned a lot of respect for playing such a tough series in their playoff debut against the eventual champions.
The 2003 series was basically the "bizarro world" version of the 1997 series. The Red Wings once again dominated play while firing pucks at a brick wall...only to see their efforts go unrewarded this time around as Anaheim kept getting the final goal, instead. It was one of the most notoriously stolen series I had ever watched. It made me sick.
@@michaelvandeginste3497 It was a sweep. Got to win at lest a game for it to be a "stolen series"
@@SamPedroCactus I disagree. NHL goaltenders, much like MLB ace pitchers, can shut an opposing offense down singlehandedly. This was especially true during the Dead Puck Era (1994-2004). I put the Game 2 loss on Curtis Joseph for letting in some bad goals, but otherwise there was nothing else for the Red Wings to do differently.
@@michaelvandeginste3497 I get you. I think the Wings were the better team most of the series but can't look back on it as close because the Wings never won a game.
Game 2 was interesting, I remember Krog and Thomas scored late in the 3rd but can't find any video of the game itself.
@@SamPedroCactus I get you, too. I think dropping the first two at home kind of broke them. They remembered the stressful first-round grind vs. Vancouver the year before and were like, "ugh, not this again!"
Jesus Christ what a warrior, id never heard anything about him or this game that's why i love this channel
Arguably the most inspiring moment in hockey. I remember watching this game, goosebumps.
I was watching it as a NJ Devils fan and I couldn't believe it. As soon as he came back I knew the game was lost.
These videos are so great! Awesome job :) thank you very much!
That was a VERY well put together analysis.
I love to watch scoring in hockey. The incredible precision of the score, loud sirens, and the players flying around the ice on their skates in celebration is just awesome.
The editing and storytelling here is next-level, seriously. Well done.
I remember watching that game live on tv. I was never a big Paul Kariya fan. But that was one of the most amazing things I’ve ever seen in hockey. Still gives me chills just watching the highlight.
The NHL is still more or less in the dark ages when it comes to player safety. Changes are happening but it's not enough and implementation is slow. I really do hope nothing like this happens again... but I fear it may be inevitable.
Yeah still miles off from where they need to be. Need good third party doctors to make decisions and proper stand down periods
Kindve makes hockey boring tho
@jordancormier6063 not sure I like seeing someone get there head taken off. All about a big hit but body to body
George Parros is the head of the Department of Player Safety. That should tell you how much of a joke that office is
Yup, don't remember if it was 2018 or 19, but soon after the Caps Cup win Michal Kempny had a similar situation happen. Took a head-shot, came back from concussion protocol, scored, and then it turned out later that he was blacked out the whole time. Obviously it wasn't as bad a hit as this, he didn't get knocked out or lose three days, but he still should never have been let back on the ice.
Then again, I also don't think players should be allowed to play through fractures the way they always seem to during the playoffs, so idk maybe I'm just soft.
bro, how fortunate for everybody that the NHL is cracking down on this stuff. There might be people who wish for the old times to return (bevause there always are), but leagues like the NHL and the NFL protecting their players from concussions is a good thing for sure
Folks got familes and lives after the sport, i'll never understand the people who call the sport "soft" cause there aren't people trying to murder each other like they did 20 years ago
I’m super new to hockey but mad respect and admiration for Kariya’s sheer will power and determination. Imagine you couldn’t do what you love or even remember it. It would be so depressing and devastating. This also made me sad and tear up a little. I know shit happens by accident or not in hockey and this is naive, but still I wish everyone would still be safe and not suffer from injuries while doing what they love. Happy to just watch hockey for now.
Definitely miss that hockey. Amazing man and player. ❤
I've been watching nhl hockey since 1980 and the clutch & grab/obstruction era was the worst hockey I ever had to watch... so boring.
this is how legends are born
Scott Stevens looks nuts, scary guy
The "Picasso of pain" is what we called him as Jersey fans. The kind of defensemen nobody wanted to go against but everyone wanted on their team
That look in his eye when he was watching Kariya get back on the ice...
Scott stevens was the Tom Wilson of his era
Not even close. @@taylorclouse7636
@@thegame346he couldn’t or wouldn’t fight though. Just a great open ice hitter.
Loved this whole era. Stevens was a beast and thkse big hits were dirty but as a kid i couldnt get enough of him.
I miss real hockey rule number one in hockey keep your head up
What a video my man! Made me really tear up! Great job🤘🏻🤘🏻
I watched that game live!! I am a big devils fan!! Kariya was an animal. He was way ahead of his time.
How was he ahead of his time? He was a 1990's and 2000s player.
@@LastLetterisZed702 Kariya in today's NHL would be there among Draistl, MacKinnon, Matthews... (I won't pretend McDavid). Just look at his stats in his NCAA Freshman year! That type of player, in the 90-00's area, could not impose their style of play like they do today. Teams needed big hitting forwards like Lindros and Forsberg, because of what defensemen were allowed to do. But even that physical type of game was hard on them, and both Forsberg and Lindros had shortened careers.
Paul was a huge inspiration growing up, That man could play.
I remember when I first got to the age where we started checking around this time, guys would get absolutely annihilated, clearly go out, and then get back to the bench where the coach would just ask how many fingers he was holding up, and then get back on the ice. Knowledge about head injuries has certainly come a long way
This is a straight Hajime no Ippo moment. Pure instinct. The will to win. The will to push his teammates to the cup. A crazy guy and a pure soul. Nothing can match that.
There’s obviously people arguing that it was a clean hit, but I think the fact that Stevens INSTANTLY stares down at him after speaks volumes
This may be the single dumbest take on this hit
2003 it was a legal hit. You cant look at older eras through the lens of today's rules. 2 line passes were also illegal, you could hook, you could hold, goalies could play the puck in the corners, there were illegal stick curves; totally different game
@@michaelmignone5869 man the comment section on this video has really restored my faith haha , well said dude. Also, there's zero chance this dude doesn't have to google what a two line pass is.
@@michaelmignone5869it was a blindsided hit to the head. There's no excusing that even if the refereeing was shit back then. Slavery was legal back in the days, would you try to justify it now?
@@Jansk1h It was neither, ye who clearly failed biology
Fantastic video on the 20th anniversary of this horrendous hit. Kariya made hockey great. Stevens made hockey brutal.
Ik it wasn't right to let him come back but that slapshot still gives me goosebumps. He came back from the dead and gave 'em a f8ck you with a capital F and buried that shit in the net. I watched this live as a kid and you can't script anything better than this
Yes. That is definitely one of those moments no matter how many times you see it, you still don't believe it.
One of the best moments in hockey history hockey players are different breed
I know someone that used to know Stevens. He said he's one of the biggest dicks that was ever in the NHL. Supposedly, he would tell people off if they saw him in public and spoke to him. I'm sure it wasn't everyone, all the time. But still. If you want to play the highest level of a sport, expect people to walk up to you in public. So basically, Stevens wasn't just a bad person on the ice.... he was simply a bad person that took advantage of the lack of head hunting rules.
The worst part about his play, a lot of these hits that you see from him that really hurt guys, they're mostly blatant interference. So even if the head was legal to hit, they still should've been penalties. But, like true rigged BS, the only people that got protected by the NHL were Mario, Gretzky, Jagr, Crosby, and McDavid. All players that NHL has basically sponsored.
now you know why you don't see Stevens doing anything with the NHL on or off ice - havent heard too much from him since
@@GeoffC19 Yeah. The guy is just a dirt bag. Period.
You are clearly lying, as he's one of the nicest people to have ever played in the league, actually.
After games, when other players would rush to the team bus, he would hold the bus for hrs, making sure to sign every autograph, greet every fan, pose for every picture, until all the kids and fans were happy. You should delete this blatant lie.
@@GeoffC19 He's doing tonnes of charity work in his home town to this day.
@@rigafraction1653 All I did was convey second hand knowledge. If I wanted to lie about him, I would've just said that I met him and he said x,y, and z. But I didn't. All I did was restate something someone that worked with him, told me about him. To be fair, I'm a Flyers fan and the same guy worked with Pronger and told me that he's one of the biggest dicks too. He named 3 people. Stevens, Pronger, and Getzlaf. He said similar things about all of them.
However, he also said that they treated the staff worse than the fans. And as someone that has met Pronger, I can say that it's easy to be Mr. Nice Guy when everyone is watching. He was nice and said hello and signed my nephew's jersey. For all I know, he was cussing us all out, in his head.
So, even if you're being truthful, and somehow know all of that stuff, it doesn't change a thing.
I didn't say that I know him. Maybe the guy that worked with them was lying. Maybe he was pissed about something those guys did to him. I don't know. I just know what I'm told.
Anyway, the rest is 100% objective. Like I said, he was objectively a terrible human being, on the ice.
So, even if all of that stuff you said is true (which I could simply throw that back at you and call you a liar), it doesn't change who he was when it actually mattered (in terms of his career). When everyone was watching, he was a piece of garbage.
He could've waited for an autograph line for 40 days and nights and it doesn't make him less of a scumbag where it actually mattered. The ice. The rest is hearsay.
Great video man, you’re killing it
As a Devils fan, and generally a lover of a good open ice hit.
I don't want to see anyone injured.
Yeah, it's the style for hockey players to play through anything.
But the brain.
No. Kariya doesn't remember the goal he scored.
He was my absolute favorite player as a kid. I remember going to a card show just to buy a card for him.
That call still gives me chills….. I went to his jersey retirement. We will never see another Paul Kariya that’s for sure.
Underrated 🐐
Sweater...FIFY.
Please spell his name, right.
@@projektkobra2247and, WHAT!?!
@@ThePOOLFLY Hockey players wear sweaters..not "jerseys"...this isnt American football.
@@projektkobra2247 FIFY?
2:01 mark, you said Anaheim beat Detroit in a 7 game series. They swept Detroit.
Credit goes to Gary Thorne for one of the most iconic calls in sports history for this one. It is a spine tingling moment for even casual hockey fans.
I'm not even a hockey fan and just wow!
Also, I now know why they don't beat the crap out of each other anymore.
Because it's hockey not MMA?
When did that end?
Remember how football used to be?
The entire defense used to pile up on one single player.
Talk about a polyester pile-up!
Did I imagine that?
Or did they actually used to pile into a 9-10 man tangle and spend the next few minutes untangling?
I'm talking the 1970's
@@noongourfainStarted to end around the mid 2010s; more checks were getting called for penalties and the game started to speed up.
Off the floor on the board!!!! This story never gets old.
I wouldn't mind being in an alternate universe where Scott Stevens got his career cut short instead of Kariya... jus sayin. One of those players was an unreal talent. The other was just an ill-spirited goon who could occasionally put together a true top line performance. Totally floated by a stacked team for his career's most notable moments. We saw what he became when the dynasty crumbled.
Stevens is easily among my all-time least favorites. At least guys like Derek Boogaard were good dudes off the ice... Stevens is just a prick by his very nature.
His career was cut short. This wasn't Kariya's first or last concussion. That's a scummy comment. Both players were supreme talents, one captained his team to several cup wins, the other was one of the more gifted forward in the game You clearly know NOTHING about the nonsense you spew here
Op, are you special or something 😂
The editing you did at 7:45............... my heart breaks. This is genius editing.
Jordan had a flu game, Kariya had a concussion game.
Definition at the start is scuffed. You don't need to lose consciousness to get a concussion..... and loosing consciousness does not guarantee an concussion either.
Scott Stevens blindsiding the smallest man on the ice when he didn't even have the puck is such a pathetic, disgusting move. Why not just swing the stick and take his head off? It was about as respectable as Tonya Harding attempting to take out Kerrigan. Stevens permanently tarnished his reputation here.
This is an ignorant comment. In that day and age it was a LEGAL hit. Many people said Kariya "got caught admiring his pass." When Scotty Stevens was on the ice everyone knew to keep their head on swivel or he might catch you. Kariya got caught with a clean, open ice hit. Here's a bit of trivia for you: in Stevens' entire career, he took a total of 4 elbowing penalties. That's it. He wasn't a dirty player (at least not in a Devils uniform). He played the game the same way as everyone did in that time period.
@@TheStromzilla Everything you said is subjective, other than the elbowing stat. Scott was a predatory player who looked for players in vulnerable positions with the intent of hurting them, legal or not. Kariya took three full strides after releasing that pass before Stevens put a shoulder into his head. Three. I don't care if Stevens had 4 elbowing penalty minutes or 400; that hit on Kariya is a pure p*ssy move by a supposed tough man defenseman. That's probably why Tie Domi called him the biggest phony he ever played against.
"That guy used to target all the best players on my teams and I always tried to fight him, and he would never fight,” Domi said. “He never, ever answered the bell."
@@Greatscott24 Look up Tie Domi Scott Neidermeyer and then tell me how you'd take that POS's word about who was a dirty player. Check how many suspensions each player served for dirty hits. Stevens was feared, but his hits were clean by the standard of the game when he played it. The idea that Stevens shied away from fighting is utterly laughable. He probably didn't want to waste time with Domi, the pint-sized piss-ant.
FYI: As a lifelong Devils fan, I was on my feet cheering for Kariya in this moment. I don't want people getting hurt in the game and I'm glad for the rules changes. But throwing shade at former players for playing in a legal manner in their era is a crappy thing to do.
@@TheStromzilla we can agree to disagree. As a wings fan, I feel pretty similarly about Kronwall as I do Stevens, and that puts me in the minority. Almost all of his hits were legal as well, but I really hate the intent to injure.
@@Greatscott24no everything he said is BACKED UP BY THE GOD DAMN RULE BOOK BACK THEN
I don't go to a ton of live games, but whenever Kariya came to my city I usually got tickets. He was a lot of fun to watch.
CTE and concussion concerns and the actions the DOPS have taken have already seriously changed the game. Compare a decade or so ago's seasons stats to now. 50% or higher reduction in the number of fighting majors and hits. There is no line brawls anymore. There are few if any goalie fights and most are prevented from occurring. Enforcement and fighting as a whole is almost completely and totally phased out, less than 12 players left in the league without visors. What's interesting is the studies on head injuries in hockey have shown that the majority of them come from hits and body checks, not fights. Based on that and how hitting is now being looked at way more closely I would suspect hitting numbers to continue to decline as well as fighting too obviously. I wouldn't be shocked if they just took out all physical contact and within a decade or two the NHL and AHL were like some European leagues. Stick checking only. I'm all for player safety, but hockey had always been a physical sport. There is a lot more speed and skill now in the NHL but it's a shame the grit and tenacity and mean energy is almost all gone.
Dude the goal he makes after coming back got me to get out of my seat I can only imagine what the energy felt like there
Somehow, Paul Kariya has returned
THis is a good example to keep your head up and not focus too much like he did. It was a good hit
It was a dirty hit even then. Gary Thornes call of the goal is one of the best ever
I remember watching this when I was 15 years old. I will never forget it. Truly amazing; what a talent.
I was 10 years old when I saw it, one of those indelible childhood memories you can't forget.
I could defend the Lindros hit because he was a tough reckless guy, but with this one Stevens definitely went too far
I went to his hockey school as a kid it’s one of my most cherished memories taking shots from Paul Kariya
i remember that kariya hit.. I thought he legit died on the ice for real..
Brodeur himself said the same thing.
the edit doesn't do justice how long he was actually out cold for.. @@ajpdeschenes
@@ThatsBadTV Is the footage available somewhere on TH-cam?
I love how noticeable the Secret Base, Jon Bois, SB Nation influence is in your videos. Their format is so great for videos like this
Kings fan but loved Kariya and Selanne. Embarrassing that all this was allowed. Back then if players did not come back after concussion their commitment and loyalty was questioned by everyone. The fans were just as much the problem as the league was. Glad to hear that he’s enjoying his life as an avid surfer in SoCal.
Kariya is my favourite player and is the reason I’m a ducks fan
The nhl should have set an example out of Steven’s. He was nothing more than a goon who ended so many careers. Predatory hits like the one on Paul Kariya have no place in hockey. They should have kick him out earlier.
A goon is a player who fights a lot, not body checks opposing players.
@@LastLetterisZed702 A goon is a guy who cheap-shots other players; Stevens was definitely a goon.
(If you want to say you can't be good and also a goon, then sure, by that definition he isn't. He was definitely very good. But one of the biggest cheap-shot artists I've ever seen. Easily THE biggest if we're only counting top-6 Fs, top-4 D.
I was born in StL but grew up in WSH, so while I have a soft spot for the Blues, I'm a die-hard Caps fan; naturally watching East Coast games much more than West, I may be underrating Pronger. Based on what I've heard, he's way up there too. But I simply didn't watch him enough.)
Learn what you're speaking about, before spewing nonsense
@@SchulzEricT fuck the blues
These videos are always so good
One of the most exciting plays in Hockey history. I remember that game and I know Paul doesn't but it was heroic. Off the floor and on the board.
Head contact in the NHL is not actually illegal. Targetting the head (or picking the head) is illegal. This hit on Kariya is still legal in todays NHL as long as it's not late. Late being defined as over .5 of a second after the puck leaves the players stick. This is the allowance to see, process, and change course (reaction time). Head contact is considered incidental contact when delivering a full body check (hitting into the body). The head can even be the principle point of contact and still be legal. Targeting the head is when the head is principle point of contact without hitting into the body (delivering a full body check). The DoP put out a video years ago explaining the hard hits and head contact rules called "Player Safety: Hard Legal Hits". It shows several examples of hard legal hits, even with the head being principle point of contact. Then shows several examples of illegal head contact explaining why they are illegal. Heres the link: th-cam.com/video/GornRqDMS_g/w-d-xo.html
Now whether a player would be allowed to return to the game after a hit like Kariya's is another matter. But players even today do return after going through head contact protocall. I think the prudent choice would be to keep the player out for the game if virtually or fully knocked unconscious. Even if obviously dazed or wobbly. But it is still up to medical staff and the player. There is no NHL rule barring a player from returning even if knocked unconscious. But again, the prudent action is not letting the player return even if he wants to, then re-assess the player the following day. Which happens the vast majority of the time today under those circumstances. That aspect for player safety is much better compared to when this Kariya hit occured.
Seriously, I hope scott stevens watched this and drowns in remorse.
He feels no remorse. Hits like that were allowed and checks like that were his bread and butter. I don't approve of it and it's scary to watch but that's just how the game was back then.
Yeah, that was attempted murder, fuckin psychopath
@@keithck3720He knew exactly what he was doing with those hits, complete attempt to seriously injure. Just because it was technically allowed, shouldn't be a reason to head hunt.
He felt worse than anyone in the building after the clean hit, his thoughts were, "get up, Paul". He was relieved when Kariya returned and played the rest of the series to win the Cup.
@@keithck3720 Partly true, he felt bad about it, but it was part of the game, injuries happen and he's not there to babysit the other players, he's there to play tough hockey
This man’s TH-cam channel is a godsend. Always insightful and entertaining. I love how his videos are usually about small details that are overlooked but have big consequences. Shout out to hockey psychology