PhD polymer chemist here (plastic chemist). Great line of questioning. Should have asked that one lady if she would like to go into a hospital today - without plastics. No IV tubing, no IV bags, etc. If the plastics disappeared, probably 90% of people there would die. No TV, no computers, no airplanes, no cushioned seats, no nylon hose, no electricity (think insulation for wires), etc. These people are utterly ignorant and dangerous.
There was a time in life when there was very little plastic used. So yes, we could go back. But would it be worth it. It's better to reuse plastic instead of putting it in our landfills.
And I couldn't do my hobby of polymer clay crafting! Screw that, too much stuff would be gone. I'm not gonna play this game! They can go live on an uncharted desert island somewhere with no plastic. Or gas stoves, or electric stoves for that matter. These ppl never THINK.
@@patrav4 Just like we could go back to a time before electricity. Not having the power to create things to put into our landfills is also a good thing, right?
While what thou say is true it won't make a damn bit of difference to these lunatics because they want us poor, struggling, and dependent on government handouts.
It's not silly to deal with an existential problem. Long term plastics and single use plastics are quite different. In terms of a long term approach, of course we want no more plastic. It's a poison.
@@StevenKilner in 1 ear and out the other. The brain is is like a parachute, if it's not open it doesn't work. When you consider yourself well educated and know everything then your mind becomes closed. You can no longer take anything other than what you know. You don't know what you don't know.
Who else remembers the highly motivated eco-warriors protesting the use of paper bags and demanding that they be replaced with plastic bags because of 'the trees'?
Isn’t that about the craziest $hit ever?! Then when confronted with legitimate questions about these certain thoughts & beliefs, they’ll just shut down, get quiet, get mad, so PHUCKING weird!!
@@joelplatt3396 Their hypocrisy just fries me. We're supposed to do without... but they can continue with their pampered lifestyles and all of the modern conveniences.
What's great about his answer and questioning is that he's not against the stopping of use of plastic his issue is the the woman is suggesting it without putting a solution on what can we replace it with
He didn't hear her out then started ranting about that her glasses were made of plastics (which he didn't even know, the frame might as well have been made of metal material), then he assumed the lid on the bottle was plastic (which he didn't know) further interrupting her. She was going to discuss the issues of using single use plastics, which is a BIG problem for nature and humans. An alternative material for single use plastics I would say is hemp plastic, a material that is more robust and durable and decomposes MUCH faster (less than 200 days instead of single use plastic which can take 20 to 500 YEARS, and then you have the microplastics which most people probably consume every day). This guy is most likely corrupt and probably paid by the oil industry.
I think disposing is somewhat of a problem. Reusing (and not buying new) should be a much bigger focus, rather than assuming recycling will fix the issue.
Most logging protests I'm aware of are in regards to old growth forests, not the industry itself. I mean I get your point, I just need to point out it's not the best comparison.
It's like when a bunch of environmentalists were protesting drilling for oil years ago. They paddled out to a drilling rig in the ocean, most of them in kayaks, made of plastic which is a byproduct of petroleum. Virtuous and clueless.
It's a double edged sword. Since the long term effects on the environment, the mountains of trash and the pollution in the oceans changing for example for North Atlantic current and the reintake of CO2 does eventually come back to bite us in the butt, eventually also affecting peoples lives. There's no perfect solution. That's why these dreamers need to stop living in their fantasies and let us live normal lives as well, with the good and the bad.
@@HDSPKSRecords-gi1oblet's just say that life was healthier for both people and nature. But certainly much slower, much less comfortable and absolutely incompatible with the inevitable populational growth. Therefore eventually inevitable. So although "healthier", it's just utopical to think about like before the industrial revolution. Just like all those advocates of "living purely off the land", who use all modern means to sustain agriculture and animal husbandry or who maintain modern jobs to be able to secure their living
@@HDSPKSRecords-gi1ob Yes humans were happier and enjoyed life more so than today. That's how our brain is wired, your brain doesn't care if you can sit on the couch all day and eat processed foods, it wants you to live naturally. Simple as.
Thank you, somebody actually pushed back with the right questions & left her speechless & not able to argue back with stupid nonsense. Nicely done sir if I do say so myself!
Here, I want to add some context that was left out of this. Eliminating single use plastics is probably a good idea. I'm in my early 50's, when I was a kid, I purchased sodas in glass bottles, the deposit on the bottle was 10 cents (which was a significant part of the purchase). The bottle was returned for the deposit, it was collected, washed, refilled and redistributed. Just like a drinking glass at a restaurant is. The plastic and aluminum soda bottles you get? They are RARELY actually recycled. They are collected, and generally dumped into a landfill. What's wrong with paper cartons for milk or even water? Milk jugs used to be glass, but that was before my time. That was phased out in the 1960's. We are NOT going back to a time that doesn't use any plastics. It's just not realistic, but we can trivially get rid of single use plastics, and we probably should. They have a bunch of plasticizers in them which are endocrine disruptors - i.e. they mess with your hormones. Even aluminum cans do this, they are actually aluminum cans with a THIN lining of plastic in them. That's why beer 20 years ago in a can didn't taste the same as beer in a glass bottle. Now it largely does.
@@fuzzywzhe We dont use paper cartons because 1 its not recyclable and 2 its harmful for the environment due to the chemicals needed to make it useful and 3 they still use plastic.
@@vikinglife6316 We don't use paper cartons because plastic is cheaper. Plastic milk jugs are NOT really recyclable. Look, we used to ship all this plastic to China, China being a communist nation, would then put people to work sorting the plastics, then the plastics would be cut up, and shipped as a substitute for "new" plastic. China stopped doing this when they realized that the subsidies to do this exceeded the amount of money they could get selling the recycled plastic, they were operating at a loss the entire time. Milk cartons do not use plastic. They use wax. Or they used to, maybe they use a thin coating of plastic now? Been a while since I've bought milk. If the point is to sequester carbon, you know what should be done with used milk cartons? Well, a milk carton is basically wood, which is turned into paper cardboard, which is mostly carbon and hydrogen. You bury it, that's "sequestering".
He should name this segment, "When reality sets in"! Also, a big thank you to Ms. Donna Jackson! This is how an industry can help an entire area, not just a few chosen people. When you give a hand up instead of a hand out, everyone can win.
Local, state, and federal taxpayers foot the bill for that Nissan plant. Capitalist billionaires always get a hand out, not a hand up. And capitalist are orchestrating this green paradigm and receiving billions from Congress to relaunch clean energy projects that have already recently failed in Europe.
well, before you present any facts. you need to make sure that the facts are valid. You can spit out facts, but if they are untrue... you just sound like an ignorant idiot too.
No, it's not. This guy looks like he's been compromised by lobbyists. It is very easy to replace a significant amount of plastic things with other resources. Many things we have today never used to have plastic in them but now do not because we needed them but because it's cheaper or profitable. Plastics also have a significant detriment to our health and ecosystem. He was just asking ridiculous questions. Of course eliminating plastics is unrealistic.
@@O1OO1O1 Funny how you say lobbyists. Yet, environmental activists created this mess by demanding more plastic because they thought it would be recycled endlessly. Now, they're blaming the very people they wanted to create more plastic use.
More like confronting ignorance with even more ignorance. Biodegradable plastics can be made from the cellulose of plants like cannabis, & wasted corn stalks. Big Oil donors apparently didn't inform you, or the Representative of this 'fact'.😏
@@zombiekilla7463 Lifetime glasses.. well what world do you live in where that is generally true? Seriously, I'd like some of these alternate universe invincible glasses that never get damaged or suffer wear and tear.
@@sentisenti322947% of ocean plastic comes from fishing equipment, there are definetly specific areas we can focus on without removing plastics from our lives
Its more an isue of how many types of plastics exist… as each one has a different break down meathod or worse non at all. Plastics were a false bill of goods, sold to the people by oil tycoons in solution to get this “envirmomentalism”! See we lowered our paper and wood production to swap to plastics to “save the trees….” And the lies that they were recycalable the goverment lied they were all recycalable. And due to how specific the break down is… near none of these get processed… as no one will take the time to seperate these plastics from one another as plastic Apraisalisys just to recycle them separately!
There is this algae that's being developed which would eat plastic that are grinded into small pieces and turn into something similar to spider web and bio degradable.
I mean, she said she meant single use plastic, probably like plastic bags and other things that are thrown away like nothing. Now, if she truely meant it and just stated the request to end all plastic production poorly, I can't say. But yes, most people don't know what their request would actually entail and certainly don't commit to it the way they should, if they'd truely believe it.
The guy is either stupid or just shilling for big oil you don't need plastics for a whole range of applications and you can replace single use plastics with bio plastics Also micro plastics are entering the food chain at an alarming rate quote What foods have microplastics in them? Studies have found microplastics in beer, wines with polyethylene stoppers, rice, table salts, and honey. Microplastics can even be found in fruits and vegetables-like apples, broccoli, and carrots-with plants able to absorb nanoplastics through their root systems.
More thoughtful than I could be. I also would have pointed out she's wearing polyester which she obviously doesn't know is a product of plastic and made of petroleum. 😂 Girl no plastic no petroleum and your at the senate hearing naked, blind, thirsty and no computers or cells to even try to refute.
In the last 30 years we have caused much harm to our planet …shouldn’t this conversation be about replacing plastic with something else…we have some brilliant minds on the planet…that should be the focus..not arguing….
Yep, and it doesn't matter if the idea or legislation works, or is even harmful, it is the intention of the promotor that matters. They should be rewarded even if their plan was awful. "We have to do something" might be the worst words ever spoken.
The so called progressives seem to always forget about the results of their ideas. Its fascinating how they all do it. Its like the result isnt even considered, I really find that interesting.
Wouldn't she make a terrific addition to the upper echelons in the white house...you know where I mean. We sure do need someone like her that has some power in the finances of our country.
@@pbrooks2099 Right you are, and she is so articulate....no hums and haws and beating around the bush with her comments. Or the remarks made by so many "well I just don't have that information with me, or I don't have those figures for you at this time." We pay high dollars for so many that can pour pee out of a boot with the directions on the heel.
I’m so impressed by this discussion, the senate EPW committee was able to explain alternatives and the challenges with them. Donna Jackson provided an insightful perspective with cause and effect. She came across as an expert with considerable knowledge (though I couldn’t stop thinking about how gorgeous her hair was and found it difficult to focus on the topic at hand). Also, I wish the video caption didn’t cover the senators name plaques so I could identify who was talking. All-in-all, I enjoyed this video. It restored my faith in committee hearings to have genuine conversations on our commitment to improving the environment and humanity.
God-- you're fantastic. Every other person commenting here is crazed with the mullin performative scolding. They think he taught her about how plastic items are very common in our lives. Truly.
@@donnaparrish7638 Another great one! There are several outstanding Republicans speaking out these days…perhaps there’s a glimmer of hope after all… 🤞 🇺🇸
I've lived in 5 states including Oklahoma where I met Mark Wayne Mullin and Steve Largent. Greatest men in government. LBJ and George Bush, not so great.
its scary how you dont see the bigger picture. The only issue with using plastic alternatives is that the poor would all have horribly difficult lives with the increase in cost, and of course some regulations for mileage in cars or whatever.. Biggest issue, wealth inequality. So basically what Mullin is saying is that he doesn't give a single care in the world about the future, and only about things going smoothly and easily in the NOW. Horribly immature, horribly short sighted, horrible take in general. Wake up people
"Hey, plastic is in everything, your phone, your computer, your car, your credit card, your personal ID, your water pipes. But hey, go boycott it if you don't like it" says the smart guy 🤡 but good luck surviving in the 21st century! I hope you didn't need the internet, all methods of communication, your bank account, running water, technology and all modes of transport. Good luck with the boycott, you'll be dead within a week. Smart guy also wants to look into the past when talking about possible alternatives to plastic, and not the future. Selective reasoning. He discusses the prospect of us returning to iron age methods. Well, we were smart enough to come up with plastic OVER 100 YEARS AGO, weren't we? Now let's be even smarter in 2023 and design its healthier replacement already, because excuse me for believing that in this day and age human beings are capable of innovating cleaner and friendler alternative multi-purpose materials than dirty plastics. But clearly we're not even trying to, such is our over-reliance and over-dependence upon plastic. It's grotesque really. Just because we over-use plastic doesn't make it right, good or in any way ideal. This video is awful pro-plastic propaganda, shame you fell for it. Sharpen up.
Anti-plastic witness: I want to end all plastic manufacturing. But she doesn't know that her glasses, both the frame and lenses, are made of plastic. What an ignorant person! Just pathetic!
The anti-plastic witness says in her dream world all plastic manufacturing would end. She can just keep on dreaming while keep on wearing her glasses made of plastic.
don't wonder why US will fall back behid China. When they become the leaders of the new green industry and green materials. It's because this senator and the likes told you nothing can be done, and did nothing.
For the first time in the last few years, I've actually seen one person answer the question direct, and with sincerity. Donna speaking the hard truth nobody wants to address.
One does not need to go to the extreme. Everyone knows that plastic is a useful material and in many instances is necessary. She said it in the beginning.... start with reduction of SINGLE USE PLASTIC and then to items which have reasonable alternatives. I have stopped (to about 99% of the time) taking single use plastic for more than 15 years - just create habits and lifestyle changes. But some people prioritize their comfort and convenience above sustainability.
@@sandriesoh9671 no, you have not taken single use plastics out of your life at 99%. You absolutely have no idea what you're talking about. You want to believe it but you're wrong.
@@sandriesoh9671 Respectfully, one time use plastics will always be needed, by many huge global industries. If they reduced one time use plastic in let's say the medical and hospital fields then the syringes would be reused, along with the whole intravenous system. Whats next reusable cloth garbage bags? Just as an example on how backwards that movement can be, in the city I used to live in they did the plastic shopping bag change, but they said its okay for stores to get bags 0.4mm in thickness from the original 0.01mm thickness. Now all the bags are 3 times as thick, requiring 3 times more plastic materials to produce them. All the store abided too so just more plastic not less.
@@GP-Music. That an the fact its really easy to keep forgetting these bags for life and buy more and end up with a bazillion of the things just like before. I cant say personally reusing bags has worked out too well
Angelle Bradford, the first woman with glasses, is a prime example of someone can be described as, " The less she knows, the more she thinks she knows."
Yes, it says it all. It says she isn't out of touch with reality and she isn't saying we must suddenly stop all plastic manufacturing. But this guy sure wants to make it look like she is saying that. I wonder why.
@@nfg999 How is that far fetched? Cotton bags instead of plastic ones. Paper and bamboo straws, cutlery, brushes and many other things instead of plastic ones. Beeswax wraps instead of plastic ones. Hemp plastic is biodegradable, but oil companies and this spokesperson of theirs wouldn't like that, would they? Food delivery can be done in paper or bamboo containers. It can also be done in stainless steel containers and the delivery person can request the customer to empty the container and give it back. Or people can be charged for the steel container and they can get their money back when they return it to the restaurant. And if they just throw it away, it can be easily recycled. Sometimes we have to make changes in our cultures and behaviors as well. There are tons of other alternatives also. We're definitely not as reliant on oil plastics as this guy makes it out to be.
@@pdpaxpvBecause those cost more money & it's easier to continue to pollute ourselves, our environment & our planet. People are hailing this man, while he's not actually letting this woman speak & he is doing their thinking for them. Oh, well done them.. 😐
@@just2genders668 He asked a question, she tried to deflect it, he spoke over her, to prevent this. 100% justified in his actions, and this should occur more, when people simply wont answer the question being asked.
He ignored her words and blabbed interminably like a kindergarten teacher. Though she was there to testify, not him. And she's a scientist and he is not.
Sure they do. Haven't you heard of Schrödinger's cat? Reality itself doesn't exist unless someone arbitrarily chooses to observer it. Einsteins theory of Special Relativity alters the passages of time for everyone else in the universe based on one persons arbitrary decision to choose a place to measure from. This is literally what they believe. Is it any wonder they think sticking their head in the sand might actually work?
Banning the use of plastic is simply unrealistic. But, alternative means of manufacturing has to be found, where the resulting plastic can be recycled for future use/manufacturing!
So if you want alternative means for plastic start producing them. You don’t need the government to ban plastic in order for you to buy something besides plastic. Her issue is she wants single used gone? Where was that energy in 2020 when she probably had a new mask every day. I’m so tired of how dumb and bullying Democrats are.
People like this only act on this on good intention, however NEVER think of the travel from point A to point B, as if they think the change will happen suddenly overnight. They don't think nor provide of what will replace it. How it will effect on their life and the lives of others. The costs of what it takes to make such a change. It's wild how many short sighted, ignorant people are in power right now. We are moving closer to a dark age and it's terrifying.
Krohn's Korollary #1 The problem with stupid and/or ignorant people is, They are too stupid and/or ignorant, To comprehend how stupid and/or ignorant they are. Dunning-Kruger Effect en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect "It's hard to win an argument with a smart person, but it's damn near impossible to win an argument with a stupid person." -- Bill Murray
This is the problem with these morons…they don’t think past the immediate thought…repercussions and all the implications their dim witted ideas would create. As I sit on my couch in my living room I find nearly NOTHING in my home that doesn’t have some form of plastic or plastic derivative aside from the vintage MCM wood chair that has wood screws and several pieces of decorative pottery…though both likely were wrapped in plastic bubble wrap when shipped.
Not even close, Charlotte... She was forced to dispense an answer she obviously didn't have the procurity to answer; she was clearly trying to say MITIGATE PLASTICS but Senator Mullin has an agenda behind him
I’m wondering if this is a tactic. Pull out an immature and ridiculous lead, fish out the pride out of your rhetorical opposition, then come out looking like a levelheaded savant with a prepared statement. ‘He responded to prompt 6 with argument C, read from orange card’
Her asking to completely ban plastics and yet not knowing how pervasive it is in the very things she has on her, let alone the things she indirectly depend on.
@@russellkindervater6111 most manufacturers have switched from using glass, the majority of prescription glasses use plastic lenses now. also, while there might be metal in the frame for structural support, there is usually plastic or some other similar material surrounding the metal for aesthetic or comfort purposes I assume.
Micro plastic stays in the body. its not about finding alternatives. it's about not trying kill everyone😊😊😊 in the future. if Mr senate don't care about his children dying, I guess all is fine.
I once heard "you can be for the environment OR you can be against plastic, but you can't be both." People are woefully unaware regarding this subject. Actually saw a woman on the highway driving a brand new SUV - she bought a bumper sticker that said "plastic is evil." Even her damn sticker was plastic!
That’s funny (bumper sticker) 😂. These people are clueless! The schools turns them into radical/Liberals because They have no critical thinking skills to begin with! They get their degree and go out to spread the nonsense they heard in school. 🎉
what logical facts? because plastic is essential it means we should not look for alternatives? because her glasses and bottle are made out of plastic, it means they allways will be? it means nothing can get any better? those are cheap excuses not to do anything
@@d3r4g45 I think he was moreso pointing out how she is hypocritical by using plastic in her day to day life and also not even proposing a solution to the problem.
@@d3r4g45 Yes stuff can get better of course, and stuff is improving every day. But to forget plastic (no matter how bad it is for the environment) is not possible right now and wont be for many of the coming years. She has an idea that is not possible to execute currently, even the single use plastic (we have banned most of the single use plastic here in Europe and it doesn´t solve the problem) Btw when it comes to plastic we are far ahead of the US here in Europe.
@@d3r4g45 No one said not to look for alternatives. The problem is when someone is complaining while doing exactly what they are speaking against. That was illogical AND foolish.
@@markschrama7218 Agreed. This young woman should have done her homework first instead of just complaining. She definitely shouldn't have been using plastic items either. That was just pathetic on her part and made her look completely ignorant. If she had researched ideas that have actually been implemented like the ones you are speaking of, she would have not looked so foolish. People probably would have been more willing to listen to what she had to say. Likely, all she had to do was Google it. Just shows that most, if not all of Europe is light years ahead of America on that front also. This country has lagged behind in just about every way imaginable for a very long time.
Give that last woman a rousing cheer. Someone who lnows what they are talking about and says it in such a straightforward manner that even a kindergartener should be able to grasp it.
I cannot believe this woman sat there and actually had to touch the mouth of her water bottle she brought with her to see if it was in fact plastic and tried to say she didn't know if the glasses literally on her face were plastic. This is why we should not be taking these people seriously. They do not understand the consequences of their demands.
Respectfully, you literalist and unbeliever, glasses may be plastic for the convenience of Chinese manufacture but quite easily can also be - as for many generations - actually made from glass (that real McCoy glass) and metal components - it's not that difficult or alarmingly more expensive and can last longer.
@@laurijoemerick9188 Can be metal too. The latest designs have them built into the frames. But I'm not against some things being plastic that might have to be
It’s exactly the same with the “stop oil” people. They all wear oil based polyester and polyurethane, travel by diesel cars wrapped in plastic. Point it out to them and they don’t have an answer.
All plastics and rubber are manufactured using petroleum. There would be no indoor plumbing or electricity in 95% of homes without those two products. People would be using the bathroom in outhouses and carrying wooden buckets of water to cook, drink, and bathe. Diseases would kill millions of people each year due to less sanitary conditions.
Efforts should be aimed not at elimination, which is unrealistic, but on limiting it, which could be done much easier. Efforts should be also focused on corporations, not consumers. Corporations use far too much plastic for packaging for example.
It's refreshing to see a comment that agrees to the reality of plastic while also knowing that we will need to replace it soon. People go on about all these things we have, and how much harm it would do if we revert back to the way things were before, but if we are being realistic, then ask yourselves, do you really think the way we are using plastic is sustainable for even the next few generations? How bad will it have to get before we start feeling forced to change because plastic has killed out so much wildlife around the planet that affects crops and all the food chains that we seem to forget we need to sustain our own lives? What's the solution? Of course single use plastics can be replaced with a variety of paper soluble objects, or cotton based products. We don't need to produce so many cars, we could have just buses on the roads which network according to the votes of locals where they would like buses to run to. And I am sure people could use wood just as much as plastic in technology if manufactures was careful enough to print onto it all that gold/copper that usually goes onto fibreglass circuit boards, is anyone even trying to look for alternatives? I think that should be the question? Are we just going to wait until things get so bad that we will have to experience a mass global extinction event and go back to stone age living anyway?
She wants to ban single use plastic? Well, I am a nurse and the amount of single use plastic and rubber products we use on a daily basis in our hospitals is _insane._ Rubber gloves, hypodermic needles, IV lines, drip bottles, dispensers of all kinds, blister packaging, ... And we have not even talked about all the medical equipment like ECG-units, x-ray and MRT devices, pacemakers, ... Good luck replacing that.
@@petethewrist Single use medical devices and supplies were regulated into existence to ensure patient safety. www.cdc.gov/hai/organisms/organisms.html
@@petethewrist Of course their were hospitals before plastics came along. However, I just suspect that given a choice, you would choose to have surgery in a modern hospital where diseases and operation complexity and success rates are a little better than before plastics, wouldn't you?
@@marks1014 was it not for population explosion and too much plastic we would not have half the ills we do now. Plastic is a killer and should be stopped there are modern alternatives for most shit.
No he was just being condesending. He wouldn't let her answer the question and ignored her when she did get in her one point that eliminating single use plastics was her primary goal (which would not include any of the items he mentioned).
@@chbu7081 no. he cut her off as she was starting to make that point. typical politico/lawyer behaviour to drive his point by stopping the other person before they can get their full point across at 0.18 and then condescendingly and repeatedly making the same point over and over
Oh come on, we've got to reduce our plastic use. It's now in the air we breath & the water we drink. It's inside our bodies & we're now partly made of plastic!. Babies are now being born, with plastic inside their bodies!.
When she says in her dream world, that means she isn't out of touch with reality and she isn't saying we must suddenly stop all plastic manufacturing. But this guy sure wants to make it look like she is saying that. I wonder why. And she gave the solution. She is talking about taking small steps to reducing plastic manufacturing.
It’s getting kind of creepy. My lgbtq activist cousin (who I love dearly) mentioned that her dreamworld is one without straight people. It broke my heart. Like idk how these people get to their “dream worlds” without hurting a lot of other people first. Can you say… genocide?
Young people dream, are idealist and often a little separated from reality. That's not new and it's not bad per se. They will eventually get old. No worries. And, in general, the world is getting older.
It was a perfect example of how to get a thought across to someone who hasn't thought through their narrative. The fact that the other people there backed up his concerns and questions was awesome.
Yes, the fact that he didn't shame the first lady speaking was impressive. It's very easy to point out the error of someone's line of thinking without being condescending or shaming. Had he launched into a "you said plastics are bad...but you are wanting to bring down an entire industry and all workers in this industry are bad" it would have been a completely different conversation and lost it's meaning. So, good for this Congressman for being civil to this lady.
@@CarnivoreguyScott hopefully this discussion redirected her thoughts to reality. Short-sighted liberal progressives cause problems as they have ulterior motivates for policymaking
The problem is there's things we could make without plastic or less plastic, but the products aren't being made that way. So much food product uses excessive plastic making it impossible unless you have your own restorative farm. If I buy a PC part the packaging is excessive plastic, it just never ends.
Reminds me of a woman once telling me I was cruel for eating meat while standing in front of me carrying a leather purse and wearing leather shoes and a leather belt!
Not condoning cigarettes but reminds me of a guy walking out of mcdonalds with a bag in his hand asking me why im doing something harmful to my body. Probably the most confusing moment of my life
those animals usually don't get murdered for the leather. leather is a byproduct of animals that die. not the other way around. fur sure. leather absolutely not
@@marshmallowmann20 killing for food is not murder. Humans are not herbivores, not even omnivores.. we need meat and animal fats to be healthy. Calling it mirder ( killing an animal to eat it), is just as stupid as calling out plastic whithout thinking about all the places it is used. I would call it more like murder, to poison, trap and shoot every animal that tries to eat a plant crop, or lives very close to it, or drinks water that is poisoned by runoff from it. THOSE animals are mostly burned or buried.. not used for anything.
why? Are you fine with all the plastic floating around in the ocean? We're literally covered in plastic. She also said she wants to initially focus on single use plastic which none of the things he named are single use plastic.
Yeah. Of course had he allowed her to speak, I’m sure she could have saved him a lot of time by saying she realises banning all plastic is not practical. But he had this all prepared, so made sure to not waste it.
@@bgbgbg123 - Then tell the countries throwing it the ocean to stop. It surprises me how many people think that America is going to be able to stop China and India keeping on what they're doing while we suffer without. Most of you would be too scared to tell someone not to litter. ESPECIALLY if they're one those minorities or homeless that are just 'trying to survive'.
@@bgbgbg123 she did, and that's a wonderful goal, but did you ignore everything else she said? She only said that after her original more sweeping statement had been proven ridiculous and then she made it clear even after saying that that she still wanted to get rid of all plastic eventually. His point was not that we shouldn't work on reducing the single use plastic in the ocean - his point was it's ignorant to say sweeping statements like she did and she's holding to a dogmatic ideal rather than reality or thinking of consequences (which is sadly the biggest difference right now between the left and the right, and I'm someone that tends to lean towards the left).
@@dillydadally Hard agree. I used to be left, then centrist, and now I'm right wing. I don't how how people with any capacity for critical thinking can support the left right now.
Very interesting video, calm and polite "interrogation" of an ill-informed lady. Factual, informed counter argument offered by Sen Mullin in a very precise manner. Such debates should be engaged for the many similar environmental campaigns offered by people who don't do their homework and/or cannot offer viable alternatives. Senator Mullin should stand for President.
Youth ages Immaturity is outgrown Ignorance can be educated And drunkenness sobered But Stupid lasts forever This statement completely describes the first witness
They are people who don't understand and don't want to understand how the modern world works. Stop drilling for oil and there will be no more plastic or rubber. That means no more electricity or indoor plumbing. We basically go back to living in the 1800's and billions of people will die.
She did not expect her false logic to be questioned. She literally expected to do a monologue and everybody nodding along. Playing dumb in the real world does not work
Well, she never said that she wanted to stop plastic manufacturing now, she just said "in my dream world yes" and then wanted to talk about single use plastic (which she doesn't seem like using) but the gentleman stopped her and started doing his monologue. She never played dumb or anything
@@mathiasdu30000 It's a senate hearing. Don't start with "ban ALL plastic", and end up on, "well, just single use..." Go in with a plan, you know, something for them to actually hear.
She did not volunteer her answer about single use plastic. He probed her for that answer. That means she did not properly formulate a response or give any thoughts to how others would reply to her initial statement about ALL plastics, which was her initial intent. Also, once he pointed out her fallacy, she quickly changed her tune. Suddenly, her argument changed to "single use plastics." This word was never in her vernacular and was not evoked during her initial statement. She was clear in her intent. She would not have been challenged on her statement to remove all plastics had her framing been correct to begin with. I am calling bullshit on a otherise bullshit argument. OP was correct. The man literally changed her mind with one poignant fact and reduced her sentiment from all plastics to this made-up "single use plastic." Also, what even is single use plastic? Do IVs count? What are we defending here?
Actually ppl r dumb and they go around being dumb in the real world. It is also a clown world with mentally ill men and women pretending to be things they can never be. We pretend our money is real. We pretend the big pharma companies actually provide health care. We pretend Biden and Fetterman are lucid and not riddled with dementia. This country is straight up dying and nobody even cares.
That's because she is normally within her own in-group bubble and everyone nods their heads and applauds and pats her on the back for repeating their own in-group dogma and thus Obviously being smarter than those who do not embrace their in-group dogma.
I agree with cutting down on single use plastics as much as possible but wanting to stop using plastic altogether is utterly insane as pointed out in this video.
It's the same level of hypocrisy that a certain vegitarian and eco activist child from a northern country displays during an interview (in winter, in a nordic country) whining about how we are "destroying the earth" for her generation... and yet she has BANANAS and AVOCADOS. On her table. She even mentions how much she loves bananas... Got news for ya squirt... those don't grow in the north in December. Just saying.
Had refinery protestors at one of the refineries up here. Gas powered, petroleum based plastic cars, petroleum based kayaks for the water, petroleum based clothes, water bottles, bags And they left trash EVERYWHERE even though they were “environmentalists” and we are still pulling their bags and bottles off of and out of fish that wash up because they have died from THEIR pollution
@@Aiveq People used to reuse their plastic, but the plastic industry didn't like that. They want you to throw away plastic, just so they can produce more and 90% of it is not recycled, because recycling costs money. They campaigned millions of dollars back in the 80s to convice you to throw it away.
Massive failure; even some college stidents are toally ignorant about simple things, that were once learned in high school. listening to these supposed educated persons talking about any sublect makes you cringe about how vacant their heads are.
@@oggyoggy1299 The person with the glasses tried to bring up single use plastic, but he cut her off. Reducing single use plastic could help reduce the amount of plastic garbage.
If I were there I'd stand up and clap for this guy. He's stating only the obvious and you can tell none of these people have given it one second of thought
It's kind of strawmaning her point. You don't have to provide a solution to point out a problem. I don't know why people can't understand that. Is plastic pervasive in our world? Yes. Is it tied economically to our world and our products? Yes. Is it an environmental problem for the ecosystem and life on the planet(which ultimately effects us)? Yes. Does she have any good solutions? No. That doesn't mean her point or concern isn't valid.
@@karn6213 "That doesn't mean her point or concern isn't valid." No, it just means it's stupid. "The sun causes sunstroke and heat exhaustion so I want to end the sun" makes about as much sense. Get a grip, man.
@@karn6213 I'd agree with you if it WAS just POINTING OUT the problem, but it's not. These people are actively campaigning for these things to end. I'm all for problems to be pointed out, but you cannot expect to end something without a viable alternative. The problem is not what is invalidated here, it's the attempt to end something without a solution that is. We have the same problem over here in Australia with Oil/Gas drilling. The protestors want it ended but cannot offer one alternative that would allow that to be so. It's pointless to just keep saying 'Stop this' if there is no other alternative, they should be researching alternatives and offering solutions.
Her answer of 'I don't know' to what things are made of, is distressing. Especially as she wants to ban one material but has no replacement for it in place.
Just because plastic is useful doesn't mean we should let plastic companies pump out so much of the crap unnecessarily, reducing plastic is totally feasible, will save money in the long run, and will be better for the environment
How can democrats have such strong opinions on stuff they know nothing about? I love hearing how dangerous nuclear power is and all I have to ask them is, "How many nuclear disasters have there been that affected the community outside the plant?" I get Fukushima and Chernobyl as the two main answers. Most of them don't even know about 3 Mile Island (although, no material escaped that disaster, but they don't even know about it). Then I ask them how many coal plant disasters have there been....crickets. Just to make a point, there have been hundreds and coal plants have released more radiation that every nuclear plant disaster to date. There is natural radiation in coal. Bananas too but we can still eat those. These people are pushing a narrative and nothing else.
@@testingmysoup5678 "...doesn't mean we should let plastic companies pump out so much of the crap unnecessarily..." Who is "we" and who empowered "we" with the right to "let" other free people do anything? I'm all for reducing plastics and the environmental impact but it has to be done in a way that uses reason and also respects the independence and liberty of others. Top down, knee-jerk, emotional legislation leads to tyranny if unchecked.
@@ClockworkWyrm there is a place for emotion, if she weren't emotionally invested she wouldn't be speaking there. Yeah she could use more help on the other aspects but the speakers arguments weren't reasonable at all. She stated she wanted to reduce plastic and he started naming things that needed plastic as if she said she wanted to eliminate them. That was an illogical emotional argument on his end protecting corruption
It really makes you wonder why she is sitting there as an "expert" in plastic prevention, when she don't even know the materials that the products she has on herself are made of. it shows that she is just full of bs ideology and not of knowledge.
If you want to end single-use plastic items, then again, as the very fine gentleman said, it's up to you to live it, and the key is education and a shift in social trends, NOT ending manufacturing of plastics. Throw out the baby with the bathwater. This is first-order thinking and she's an embarrassment.
I actually do this with my students as a way to show that solutions aren't as easy as they think they are, and the world is more complicated than they think.
He could have even taken it a step further and mentioned that the fossil fuels they are hellbent to eliminate are integral in the creation of all plastics. She’d be living her dream if they eliminated fossil fuel because all those items he rattled off wouldn’t be possible, including their precious electric cars, because without petroleum and natural gas you cannot manufacture plastic.
you actually do what with your students? I saw no acknowledgement in either politician's statement that any action could be taken on the subject of single-use plastics. I just saw some major deflection (oh, look at this naive young girl trying to tell me about plastics) and (from what it seems to me) misquoting. Is that what you do -- deflect and misquote? I hope not.
@@asciiguy1 Really? You are incapable of understanding @SLagonia is stating that he presents challenges to his Students as a way to help them recognize that consideration regarding cause and effect must be taken into account before making a drastic change or implementing a change to something.
Bingo. As a man with several degrees from elite institutions, I cannot agree more. I come from a poor background and was fortunate enough to make it out, but I have never forgotten what its like to be poor, to get evicted and to be homeless. My greatest knowledge did NOT come from a university classroom, but from the school of hard knocks or as Mark Twain said: "I never let my schooling get in the way of my education."
That was one of the most intelligent, well articulated interactions that I have ever had the pleasure to watch. If only more Americans would understand these simple truths, based on facts, not feelings, perhaps America could return to her former glory.
The fallacy here with the belief that people [should] make understanding of simple truths based on facts is that you assume ... 1, facts and truth are the same thing; they are not, in fact truth is based on feelings just as much as facts. 2. That current facts we have are reliable, when in fact they can be unreliable. Reliable facts in a lot of ways conform to or are brought forth from societal truths. 3. Also assume that people have the right discernment to make good behavioral decision based on facts(if assumption 2 is valid). Just because people have the right facts doesn't mean they will make or have made the right decisions. This whole "facts don't/shouldn't care about feelings" is just asinine. We all make decisions based on feelings; it's impossible not to. We are all, unless you are a psychopath, feeling beings as much as we are rational beings. And also, do want to "return [to] formal glory"? Isn't it much better to pave towards a better and more modern version of our world rather than remain anchored to your past(which a lot of is based on feelings, nostalgia is a powerful. Unless it was traumatic, we generally only remember the good moments of our past)?
@karn6213 I agree with you. I'm so tired of people choosing to ignore people's feelings and others choosing to ignore real information. Like wtf, it's not mandatory that they be mutually exclusive. The synthesis position: it is psychologically healthy to feel a type of way about excessive environmental plastics because they're uptaken into the soil and biosphere and they upset human hormonal functioning, hence all the low testosterone and increasing PCOS. If you don't feel bad about that, something is wrong with you. Next, how do we mitigation and reconcile these realities? Maybe we can still use plastics if we can eliminate them quicker? How do we do that? Are there biodegradable alternatives? Can we render existing ones as such? See how inductive and deductive reasoning can be used together informed with emotional valence from a real problem supported by facts? "Seek and ye shall find, knock and the door shall be opened unto you."
I would give her credit that yes, single-use plastics need to be dealt with, except she was only saying it in an attempt to weasel her way around his questions.
@@markgiltner7358 there is a straw made out of pasta, there are those out of inox steel, or simply don't use fking straws. that's why we need legislation, instead of his gotcha trick answers for internet fame.
Eliminating paper bags was done by Jeff Bezos because he couldn't source cardboard in volume for Amazon boxes while paper bags proliferated. He's the cause. Lets end Amazon and see what happens.
there won't be any realistic alternative ever, if none is being searched for, and it's not posed as an issue. there won't be any realistic alternative ever, if we go on by his arguments "how things stand now".
ok tell me how much pollutions does it cause in production of platic, I agree with him that plastic is essential so we cant ban it but we can reduce it,they pollute environment .major emissions from plastic production processes include sulfur oxides, nitrous oxides, methanol, ethylene oxide, and volatile organic compounds.OK tell what happens to lands and water bodies around factories bruh. Health is biggest wealth,
Living in Canada, I had a similar talk with my then 14 year old granddaughter. She spoke of about having free hamburgers at a school dance. "Niice. Who paid for the meat? Who paid for the buns? What about the plates and utensils?" "So grandad, then free healthcare isn't free because your taxes pay for it?" She's been a conservative ever since and I've been a very proud grandfather. She's 22 now and still reasons things through, mostly.
He schooled that first lady as if she were a child and rightly so. Trying to pretend she didn't know her glasses were made of plastic was something a child or a child-like mind would do.
Child-like mind or just STUPID? Children often don't know because they haven't had enough education and experience. If SHE doesn't know, it's because she has chosen to drink the Kool-aid and be STUPID!
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PhD polymer chemist here (plastic chemist). Great line of questioning. Should have asked that one lady if she would like to go into a hospital today - without plastics. No IV tubing, no IV bags, etc. If the plastics disappeared, probably 90% of people there would die. No TV, no computers, no airplanes, no cushioned seats, no nylon hose, no electricity (think insulation for wires), etc. These people are utterly ignorant and dangerous.
I demand wooden IV tubing!!!!!
what is your opinion on plant based plastics?
There was a time in life when there was very little plastic used. So yes, we could go back. But would it be worth it. It's better to reuse plastic instead of putting it in our landfills.
And I couldn't do my hobby of polymer clay crafting! Screw that, too much stuff would be gone. I'm not gonna play this game! They can go live on an uncharted desert island somewhere with no plastic. Or gas stoves, or electric stoves for that matter. These ppl never THINK.
@@patrav4 Just like we could go back to a time before electricity. Not having the power to create things to put into our landfills is also a good thing, right?
I love when these silly people get destroyed with facts. 🇺🇸
They get destroyed but they don't actually realized it happened.
@@mostlyinterested1016 True ! They can't handle the facts!!.
An yet, like the "Energizer Bunny", they just keep on beating their bullshit drum to the same damn tune.
While what thou say is true it won't make a damn bit of difference to these lunatics because they want us poor, struggling, and dependent on government handouts.
It's not silly to deal with an existential problem. Long term plastics and single use plastics are quite different. In terms of a long term approach, of course we want no more plastic. It's a poison.
She didn't know the frame on her glasses is plastic. The fact that someone like that is at a senate hearing giving her opinion is what's scary
Not just frames, lens are made of plastic as well. Actual glass has not been used for many many years.
The fact that she is that clueless (stupid) about her subject material is scary enough to wake up some more people; one soul at a time.
It's "her truth"... 😂
@@blanko_sama8049 And it sounded really smart when she practiced her speech in front of the mirror.
The squeaky wheel gets the oil.
😂😂😂 When she said dreamworld, I was done. Ridiculous!
Me too 😅
me too lol
She learned more on this day than the whole of her educational life.
Make no mistake about it not a thing was actually learned here at least not by any lib there.
You don't say!😂😂😂
What a short sighted limited way of thinking - feel sorry for your lack of curiosity!!@@StevenKilner
@@CDRhammond 👍The cognitive dissonance of the Left is immeasurable. It is why it's called the Left, because it ain't Right.
@@StevenKilner in 1 ear and out the other. The brain is is like a parachute, if it's not open it doesn't work. When you consider yourself well educated and know everything then your mind becomes closed. You can no longer take anything other than what you know. You don't know what you don't know.
Who else remembers the highly motivated eco-warriors protesting the use of paper bags and demanding that they be replaced with plastic bags because of 'the trees'?
Tree huggers?
Pepperidge farms remembers
Oh yeah
....and now plastic bags are a plague on the earth!
Plastic Trees perhaps?
Those with the least knowledge tend to have the strongest opinions based on nothing and yell the loudest.
wow that sounds like most californians lol
Correct, and this 100% covers the climate alarmists.
Isn’t that about the craziest $hit ever?! Then when confronted with legitimate questions about these certain thoughts & beliefs, they’ll just shut down, get quiet, get mad, so PHUCKING weird!!
You just made a statement that is applicable to the whole Biden administration.
@@joelplatt3396 Their hypocrisy just fries me. We're supposed to do without... but they can continue with their pampered lifestyles and all of the modern conveniences.
BRAVO. Sen. Mullin is making his points so clearly.
His point is that there is no way to make GLASSes without plastic?
You're silly...
What's great about his answer and questioning is that he's not against the stopping of use of plastic his issue is the the woman is suggesting it without putting a solution on what can we replace it with
@@m1leswilliams Out of all his statements and reality checks, that's the only thing you've heard?
@@m1leswilliamsMost lenses are plastic nowadays
The stark contrast between the intellect of these two witnesses . . . .
Their intellect is the same. Hemp can replace plastic in many instances.
Even if that were true (which it's not) where are you going to grow the amount needed to replace all the plastic in use today?
@@Tara-Maya whole lot of talk about what can be done and not a whole lot of getting it done.
@@Tara-Maya : Go buy a pair of glasses made of hemp. Try gettin a food grade hemp container for foodstuffs.
Ludicrous
@@Tara-MayaYou obviously have no idea how much plastic is used and in which products.
That man has the gift of telling people they are stupid about a 100 times with out telling them.
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😂😂😂 Best comment ever
How does this nut job even make it to a hearing? Have we gone mad as a country?
He didn't hear her out then started ranting about that her glasses were made of plastics (which he didn't even know, the frame might as well have been made of metal material), then he assumed the lid on the bottle was plastic (which he didn't know) further interrupting her.
She was going to discuss the issues of using single use plastics, which is a BIG problem for nature and humans. An alternative material for single use plastics I would say is hemp plastic, a material that is more robust and durable and decomposes MUCH faster (less than 200 days instead of single use plastic which can take 20 to 500 YEARS, and then you have the microplastics which most people probably consume every day).
This guy is most likely corrupt and probably paid by the oil industry.
Her facial expression was so on point. She knew absolutely zero about the assignment
but she is hot
😂😂😂 she is cute though
@@markadams2907if that's all she has going for her, and it's obvious that's it, she and others like her are doomed.
@@markadams2907 nah, she isnt
@@markadams2907 I agree. What a beautiful woman. Maybe it would be better if she was a model.
The problem isn't that we use plastic. The problem is thousands of people throw it away wherever they want.
Great point
I agree. BUT we all do, including you. We have no choice. Even the “recyclable” plastics we diligently save, mostly end up in landfill, oceans…..
disposing of plastic isnt the problem, not recycling plastic is the problem
I think disposing is somewhat of a problem. Reusing (and not buying new) should be a much bigger focus, rather than assuming recycling will fix the issue.
@@delythedwards7103 Never said otherwise, but point still stands. Problem isn't that we use plastic, problem is disposal system... or rather lack of.
It is like protesting cutting down trees while holding a paper sign hooked to a wooden stick.
🤔🤣 Yeah they should use a white plastic cover from a bin or something hooked up to a PVC pipe.
Hahahahahahahahahahahaha
lol
Most logging protests I'm aware of are in regards to old growth forests, not the industry itself. I mean I get your point, I just need to point out it's not the best comparison.
It's like when a bunch of environmentalists were protesting drilling for oil years ago. They paddled out to a drilling rig in the ocean, most of them in kayaks, made of plastic which is a byproduct of petroleum. Virtuous and clueless.
"Take into account the human impact, not just the environmental." Words to live by.
The Industrial Revolution ruined both
@@N1k0SP What do you think life was like before the Industrial Revolution? A cakewalk? Back to your history books...
It's a double edged sword. Since the long term effects on the environment, the mountains of trash and the pollution in the oceans changing for example for North Atlantic current and the reintake of CO2 does eventually come back to bite us in the butt, eventually also affecting peoples lives.
There's no perfect solution. That's why these dreamers need to stop living in their fantasies and let us live normal lives as well, with the good and the bad.
@@HDSPKSRecords-gi1oblet's just say that life was healthier for both people and nature. But certainly much slower, much less comfortable and absolutely incompatible with the inevitable populational growth. Therefore eventually inevitable. So although "healthier", it's just utopical to think about like before the industrial revolution. Just like all those advocates of "living purely off the land", who use all modern means to sustain agriculture and animal husbandry or who maintain modern jobs to be able to secure their living
@@HDSPKSRecords-gi1ob Yes humans were happier and enjoyed life more so than today. That's how our brain is wired, your brain doesn't care if you can sit on the couch all day and eat processed foods, it wants you to live naturally. Simple as.
Thank you, somebody actually pushed back with the right questions & left her speechless & not able to argue back with stupid nonsense. Nicely done sir if I do say so myself!
Here, I want to add some context that was left out of this.
Eliminating single use plastics is probably a good idea. I'm in my early 50's, when I was a kid, I purchased sodas in glass bottles, the deposit on the bottle was 10 cents (which was a significant part of the purchase). The bottle was returned for the deposit, it was collected, washed, refilled and redistributed.
Just like a drinking glass at a restaurant is.
The plastic and aluminum soda bottles you get? They are RARELY actually recycled. They are collected, and generally dumped into a landfill.
What's wrong with paper cartons for milk or even water? Milk jugs used to be glass, but that was before my time. That was phased out in the 1960's.
We are NOT going back to a time that doesn't use any plastics. It's just not realistic, but we can trivially get rid of single use plastics, and we probably should. They have a bunch of plasticizers in them which are endocrine disruptors - i.e. they mess with your hormones. Even aluminum cans do this, they are actually aluminum cans with a THIN lining of plastic in them. That's why beer 20 years ago in a can didn't taste the same as beer in a glass bottle. Now it largely does.
She's the single issue environmentalist ... as if dealing with single use containers will solve all our problems. She's horribly naive.
@@fuzzywzhe We dont use paper cartons because 1 its not recyclable and 2 its harmful for the environment due to the chemicals needed to make it useful and 3 they still use plastic.
@@vikinglife6316 We don't use paper cartons because plastic is cheaper. Plastic milk jugs are NOT really recyclable.
Look, we used to ship all this plastic to China, China being a communist nation, would then put people to work sorting the plastics, then the plastics would be cut up, and shipped as a substitute for "new" plastic.
China stopped doing this when they realized that the subsidies to do this exceeded the amount of money they could get selling the recycled plastic, they were operating at a loss the entire time.
Milk cartons do not use plastic. They use wax. Or they used to, maybe they use a thin coating of plastic now? Been a while since I've bought milk.
If the point is to sequester carbon, you know what should be done with used milk cartons? Well, a milk carton is basically wood, which is turned into paper cardboard, which is mostly carbon and hydrogen. You bury it, that's "sequestering".
“I never thought about it”! That says it ALL about woke reasoning. It’s shallow.
Exactly. They don't think, they repeat
He should name this segment, "When reality sets in"! Also, a big thank you to Ms. Donna Jackson! This is how an industry can help an entire area, not just a few chosen people. When you give a hand up instead of a hand out, everyone can win.
Local, state, and federal taxpayers foot the bill for that Nissan plant. Capitalist billionaires always get a hand out, not a hand up. And capitalist are orchestrating this green paradigm and receiving billions from Congress to relaunch clean energy projects that have already recently failed in Europe.
When you confront mass ignorance with massive facts, this is a good example of what it looks like.
well, before you present any facts. you need to make sure that the facts are valid.
You can spit out facts, but if they are untrue... you just sound like an ignorant idiot too.
Yeah, this guy didn't even know we had eyeglasses for centuries before plastic was invented. What a idiot.
No, it's not. This guy looks like he's been compromised by lobbyists. It is very easy to replace a significant amount of plastic things with other resources. Many things we have today never used to have plastic in them but now do not because we needed them but because it's cheaper or profitable.
Plastics also have a significant detriment to our health and ecosystem. He was just asking ridiculous questions. Of course eliminating plastics is unrealistic.
@@O1OO1O1 Funny how you say lobbyists. Yet, environmental activists created this mess by demanding more plastic because they thought it would be recycled endlessly. Now, they're blaming the very people they wanted to create more plastic use.
More like confronting ignorance with even more ignorance. Biodegradable plastics can be made from the cellulose of plants like cannabis, & wasted corn stalks. Big Oil donors apparently didn't inform you, or the Representative of this 'fact'.😏
The fact she is so clueless but still given a platform... something has to change.
she said no single use plastic, he points to her once a life time glasses
@@zombiekilla7463 once a life-time glasses ? lol apparently you have never worn glasses ..
Could always make her mayor of dem run chit hole city
@@zombiekilla7463 Lifetime glasses.. well what world do you live in where that is generally true?
Seriously, I'd like some of these alternate universe invincible glasses that never get damaged or suffer wear and tear.
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Have you any idea HOW MANY PEOPLE wear glasses?
Plastics will never go away. Ever. If we really want to do something about plastic, we need better technology to break it down
And less single use plastic. Like these two dramatic lawmakers cat arguing for public stunt also realize that all those plastic must end somewhere.
@@sentisenti322947% of ocean plastic comes from fishing equipment, there are definetly specific areas we can focus on without removing plastics from our lives
Its more an isue of how many types of plastics exist… as each one has a different break down meathod or worse non at all.
Plastics were a false bill of goods, sold to the people by oil tycoons in solution to get this “envirmomentalism”! See we lowered our paper and wood production to swap to plastics to “save the trees….” And the lies that they were recycalable the goverment lied they were all recycalable.
And due to how specific the break down is… near none of these get processed… as no one will take the time to seperate these plastics from one another as plastic Apraisalisys just to recycle them separately!
And some kind of plastic which can be easily broken down.
There is this algae that's being developed which would eat plastic that are grinded into small pieces and turn into something similar to spider web and bio degradable.
He delivered that in a very thoughtful way. I can guarantee she’d never considered most of what he had to say. Well done, sir!
She was ingenuous and no match for the cunning politician.
These typical modern women in society today is a disgrace to all mothers.
I mean, she said she meant single use plastic, probably like plastic bags and other things that are thrown away like nothing.
Now, if she truely meant it and just stated the request to end all plastic production poorly, I can't say.
But yes, most people don't know what their request would actually entail and certainly don't commit to it the way they should, if they'd truely believe it.
The guy is either stupid or just shilling for big oil you don't need plastics for a whole range of applications and you can replace single use plastics with bio plastics
Also micro plastics are entering the food chain at an alarming rate
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What foods have microplastics in them?
Studies have found microplastics in beer, wines with polyethylene stoppers, rice, table salts, and honey. Microplastics can even be found in fruits and vegetables-like apples, broccoli, and carrots-with plants able to absorb nanoplastics through their root systems.
More thoughtful than I could be. I also would have pointed out she's wearing polyester which she obviously doesn't know is a product of plastic and made of petroleum. 😂 Girl no plastic no petroleum and your at the senate hearing naked, blind, thirsty and no computers or cells to even try to refute.
"In the last thirty years, we've exchanged a culture of using what works for one that sounds good". - Thomas Sowell
Isn't that true! And just because it sounds good, doesn't mean it is good. It's just meant to make everyone FEEL better.
In the last 30 years we have caused much harm to our planet …shouldn’t this conversation be about replacing plastic with something else…we have some brilliant minds on the planet…that should be the focus..not arguing….
@@sandrathompson1277 I don't know your age, but our planet is immensely healthier now than it was in the 1960s and 1970s.
Yep, and it doesn't matter if the idea or legislation works, or is even harmful, it is the intention of the promotor that matters. They should be rewarded even if their plan was awful. "We have to do something" might be the worst words ever spoken.
The so called progressives seem to always forget about the results of their ideas. Its fascinating how they all do it. Its like the result isnt even considered, I really find that interesting.
Donna Jackson understands capitalism.
God bless her!
Wouldn't she make a terrific addition to the upper echelons in the white house...you know where I mean. We sure do need someone like her that has some power in the finances of our country.
And she has a good sense of economics from firsthand experience.
@@pbrooks2099 Right you are, and she is so articulate....no hums and haws and beating around the bush with her comments. Or the remarks made by so many "well I just don't have that information with me, or I don't have those figures for you at this time." We pay high dollars for so many that can pour pee out of a boot with the directions on the heel.
Any questions 😜🇺🇸
I’m so impressed by this discussion, the senate EPW committee was able to explain alternatives and the challenges with them. Donna Jackson provided an insightful perspective with cause and effect. She came across as an expert with considerable knowledge (though I couldn’t stop thinking about how gorgeous her hair was and found it difficult to focus on the topic at hand). Also, I wish the video caption didn’t cover the senators name plaques so I could identify who was talking. All-in-all, I enjoyed this video. It restored my faith in committee hearings to have genuine conversations on our commitment to improving the environment and humanity.
God-- you're fantastic. Every other person commenting here is crazed with the mullin performative scolding. They think he taught her about how plastic items are very common in our lives. Truly.
All that college studying and this man ruined it for them in about 6 minutes... love it
That’s Markwayne Mullin from Oklahoma!
@@donnaparrish7638 Another great one! There are several outstanding Republicans speaking out these days…perhaps there’s a glimmer of hope after all… 🤞 🇺🇸
She needs to return her diploma
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I've lived in 5 states including Oklahoma where I met Mark Wayne Mullin and Steve Largent. Greatest men in government.
LBJ and George Bush, not so great.
There are just far too many people like her with NO CLUE! It is scary and frustrating
its scary how you dont see the bigger picture. The only issue with using plastic alternatives is that the poor would all have horribly difficult lives with the increase in cost, and of course some regulations for mileage in cars or whatever.. Biggest issue, wealth inequality. So basically what Mullin is saying is that he doesn't give a single care in the world about the future, and only about things going smoothly and easily in the NOW. Horribly immature, horribly short sighted, horrible take in general. Wake up people
@@Gliese504 Shutup
@@HermannTheGreat great take, herman. I really see the error in my stance from what you said and I really took it into consideration. Not.
"Hey, plastic is in everything, your phone, your computer, your car, your credit card, your personal ID, your water pipes. But hey, go boycott it if you don't like it" says the smart guy 🤡 but good luck surviving in the 21st century! I hope you didn't need the internet, all methods of communication, your bank account, running water, technology and all modes of transport. Good luck with the boycott, you'll be dead within a week.
Smart guy also wants to look into the past when talking about possible alternatives to plastic, and not the future. Selective reasoning. He discusses the prospect of us returning to iron age methods.
Well, we were smart enough to come up with plastic OVER 100 YEARS AGO, weren't we? Now let's be even smarter in 2023 and design its healthier replacement already, because excuse me for believing that in this day and age human beings are capable of innovating cleaner and friendler alternative multi-purpose materials than dirty plastics. But clearly we're not even trying to, such is our over-reliance and over-dependence upon plastic. It's grotesque really. Just because we over-use plastic doesn't make it right, good or in any way ideal.
This video is awful pro-plastic propaganda, shame you fell for it. Sharpen up.
Good jobs, Senator Mullin and Donna Jackson!! There is no shortage of people who complain and condemn without really thinking things through.
Anti-plastic witness: I want to end all plastic manufacturing.
But she doesn't know that her glasses, both the frame and lenses, are made of plastic.
What an ignorant person! Just pathetic!
The anti-plastic witness says in her dream world all plastic manufacturing would end.
She can just keep on dreaming while keep on wearing her glasses made of plastic.
don't wonder why US will fall back behid China. When they become the leaders of the new green industry and green materials. It's because this senator and the likes told you nothing can be done, and did nothing.
She got Humbled in 10 seconds
For the first time in the last few years, I've actually seen one person answer the question direct, and with sincerity. Donna speaking the hard truth nobody wants to address.
One does not need to go to the extreme. Everyone knows that plastic is a useful material and in many instances is necessary. She said it in the beginning.... start with reduction of SINGLE USE PLASTIC and then to items which have reasonable alternatives. I have stopped (to about 99% of the time) taking single use plastic for more than 15 years - just create habits and lifestyle changes. But some people prioritize their comfort and convenience above sustainability.
@@sandriesoh9671 no, you have not taken single use plastics out of your life at 99%. You absolutely have no idea what you're talking about. You want to believe it but you're wrong.
@@frijoli9579 how not? for example, I have been using cloth bags for the past few years.
@@sandriesoh9671 Respectfully, one time use plastics will always be needed, by many huge global industries. If they reduced one time use plastic in let's say the medical and hospital fields then the syringes would be reused, along with the whole intravenous system. Whats next reusable cloth garbage bags? Just as an example on how backwards that movement can be, in the city I used to live in they did the plastic shopping bag change, but they said its okay for stores to get bags 0.4mm in thickness from the original 0.01mm thickness. Now all the bags are 3 times as thick, requiring 3 times more plastic materials to produce them. All the store abided too so just more plastic not less.
@@GP-Music. That an the fact its really easy to keep forgetting these bags for life and buy more and end up with a bazillion of the things just like before. I cant say personally reusing bags has worked out too well
Angelle Bradford, the first woman with glasses, is a prime example of someone can be described as, " The less she knows, the more she thinks she knows."
A woman that is so concerned with plastics use doesn't even know what her glasses are made out of.
@@keinlieb3818 It's as charming as all the leather-wearing anti-meat activists.
She's the first woman with glasses? This is an historic moment!
@@workingstiffdiogenes2195 🤣i love how english works
She knows she’s a very very good girl!
Wow Donna Jackson hitting them with facts, while the other side is hitting with propaganda. Love it.
She made that other woman look foolish.
She appears not to be afraid of the truth. Good for her and her constituents.
Wow Donna Jackson I really respect her she is right on the mark .
Donna Jackson is a real human... unlike the other one with plastic glasses
@@richardpatrick2852 nah.... she only made the "other woman" look outright stupid (type 1 class SSS)
Good job Mrs Jackson on the response with truth .
We need MUCH more of this, Sen. Mullin. Thank you!
Tell him to fix his china problem buying up land in OK. He’s a rat.
In her dream world, says it all. She's a legend in her own mind.
😂😂😂😂
Yes, it says it all. It says she isn't out of touch with reality and she isn't saying we must suddenly stop all plastic manufacturing. But this guy sure wants to make it look like she is saying that. I wonder why.
@pdpaxpv how is she not out of touch. She wants to start with single use plastics. That is already a far fetched goal.
@@nfg999 How is that far fetched? Cotton bags instead of plastic ones. Paper and bamboo straws, cutlery, brushes and many other things instead of plastic ones. Beeswax wraps instead of plastic ones. Hemp plastic is biodegradable, but oil companies and this spokesperson of theirs wouldn't like that, would they? Food delivery can be done in paper or bamboo containers. It can also be done in stainless steel containers and the delivery person can request the customer to empty the container and give it back. Or people can be charged for the steel container and they can get their money back when they return it to the restaurant. And if they just throw it away, it can be easily recycled. Sometimes we have to make changes in our cultures and behaviors as well. There are tons of other alternatives also. We're definitely not as reliant on oil plastics as this guy makes it out to be.
@@pdpaxpvBecause those cost more money & it's easier to continue to pollute ourselves, our environment & our planet.
People are hailing this man, while he's not actually letting this woman speak & he is doing their thinking for them.
Oh, well done them.. 😐
Love this! She is so smug in her mindset until he gives her a reality check.
She wasn’t smug. She allowed him to speak, and he even spoke over her some times. It was cordial. We must not have watched the same video.
@@just2genders668 He asked a question, she tried to deflect it, he spoke over her, to prevent this. 100% justified in his actions, and this should occur more, when people simply wont answer the question being asked.
Amen
She’s familiar with checks from the government. . Boom!
@@just2genders668Smug. She thought she had him. She was ill prepared.
I love how the dude destroyed the silly girl's argument calmly and emphatically!
Masterfully done,sir!
He ignored her words and blabbed interminably like a kindergarten teacher. Though she was there to testify, not him. And she's a scientist and he is not.
"Facts don't cease to exist just because you ignore them."
Sure they do. Haven't you heard of Schrödinger's cat? Reality itself doesn't exist unless someone arbitrarily chooses to observer it. Einsteins theory of Special Relativity alters the passages of time for everyone else in the universe based on one persons arbitrary decision to choose a place to measure from. This is literally what they believe. Is it any wonder they think sticking their head in the sand might actually work?
@@K162KingPin wattamoron .. how many cats use plastic ??? or drive ??
Banning the use of plastic is simply unrealistic. But, alternative means of manufacturing has to be found, where the resulting plastic can be recycled for future use/manufacturing!
So if you want alternative means for plastic start producing them. You don’t need the government to ban plastic in order for you to buy something besides plastic. Her issue is she wants single used gone? Where was that energy in 2020 when she probably had a new mask every day. I’m so tired of how dumb and bullying Democrats are.
"facts" is not an excuse not to try to do anything
She said it! "In my dream world" that's the point ... REALITY must be considered!
The problem with people is not that they're ignorant, though they are, the problem is that they want to force you to live by their ignorance.
They're called useful idiots. Those with an agenda use them..
People like this only act on this on good intention, however NEVER think of the travel from point A to point B, as if they think the change will happen suddenly overnight.
They don't think nor provide of what will replace it. How it will effect on their life and the lives of others. The costs of what it takes to make such a change. It's wild how many short sighted, ignorant people are in power right now. We are moving closer to a dark age and it's terrifying.
Yes, like the plandemic
Krohn's Korollary #1
The problem with stupid and/or ignorant people is,
They are too stupid and/or ignorant,
To comprehend how stupid and/or ignorant they are.
Dunning-Kruger Effect
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect
"It's hard to win an argument with a smart person, but it's damn near impossible to win an argument with a stupid person." -- Bill Murray
Or TRY to do so...
Finally! These intelligent men and woman are a breath of fresh air!!! We may have hope after all! God bless ❤
What a fool she has made herself in front of the world!
You’re the fool 🤡
Isn't the first time,
This is the problem with these morons…they don’t think past the immediate thought…repercussions and all the implications their dim witted ideas would create. As I sit on my couch in my living room I find nearly NOTHING in my home that doesn’t have some form of plastic or plastic derivative aside from the vintage MCM wood chair that has wood screws and several pieces of decorative pottery…though both likely were wrapped in plastic bubble wrap when shipped.
Not even close, Charlotte... She was forced to dispense an answer she obviously didn't have the procurity to answer; she was clearly trying to say MITIGATE PLASTICS but Senator Mullin has an agenda behind him
I’m wondering if this is a tactic. Pull out an immature and ridiculous lead, fish out the pride out of your rhetorical opposition, then come out looking like a levelheaded savant with a prepared statement. ‘He responded to prompt 6 with argument C, read from orange card’
Her asking to completely ban plastics and yet not knowing how pervasive it is in the very things she has on her, let alone the things she indirectly depend on.
Welcome to your average Marxist Demorat.
He's being so polite while destroying her. He asked What's the alternative?" and she's like, i dont know 😂😂
Polite ..? Frigging aggressive
I seem to remember Glasses made of Glass right,? and metal frames
@@russellkindervater6111 most manufacturers have switched from using glass, the majority of prescription glasses use plastic lenses now. also, while there might be metal in the frame for structural support, there is usually plastic or some other similar material surrounding the metal for aesthetic or comfort purposes I assume.
Micro plastic stays in the body. its not about finding alternatives. it's about not trying kill everyone😊😊😊 in the future. if Mr senate don't care about his children dying, I guess all is fine.
1 solution would be to actually recycle the plastic instead of shipping it off to China so they can just dump it in the ocean
How did she got to the hearing? Oh i got it, on the Flintstone mobile
I once heard "you can be for the environment OR you can be against plastic, but you can't be both." People are woefully unaware regarding this subject. Actually saw a woman on the highway driving a brand new SUV - she bought a bumper sticker that said "plastic is evil." Even her damn sticker was plastic!
That’s funny (bumper sticker) 😂. These people are clueless! The schools turns them into radical/Liberals because They have no critical thinking skills to begin with! They get their degree and go out to spread the nonsense they heard in school. 🎉
Man, that's some brilliant grifting. Plastic sticker saying 'plastic is evil'. top level.
Hahaha
They don't live in reality.
And the plastic sticker was stuck on her plastic bumper 🙄
I love the humble way he brings up these logical facts!!! We need more of this!!
what logical facts? because plastic is essential it means we should not look for alternatives? because her glasses and bottle are made out of plastic, it means they allways will be? it means nothing can get any better? those are cheap excuses not to do anything
@@d3r4g45 I think he was moreso pointing out how she is hypocritical by using plastic in her day to day life and also not even proposing a solution to the problem.
@@d3r4g45 Yes stuff can get better of course, and stuff is improving every day. But to forget plastic (no matter how bad it is for the environment) is not possible right now and wont be for many of the coming years. She has an idea that is not possible to execute currently, even the single use plastic (we have banned most of the single use plastic here in Europe and it doesn´t solve the problem) Btw when it comes to plastic we are far ahead of the US here in Europe.
@@d3r4g45 No one said not to look for alternatives.
The problem is when someone is complaining while doing exactly what they are speaking against. That was illogical AND foolish.
@@markschrama7218
Agreed. This young woman should have done her homework first instead of just complaining. She definitely shouldn't have been using plastic items either. That was just pathetic on her part and made her look completely ignorant.
If she had researched ideas that have actually been implemented like the ones you are speaking of, she would have not looked so foolish. People probably would have been more willing to listen to what she had to say.
Likely, all she had to do was Google it. Just shows that most, if not all of Europe is light years ahead of America on that front also.
This country has lagged behind in just about every way imaginable for a very long time.
Give that last woman a rousing cheer. Someone who lnows what they are talking about and says it in such a straightforward manner that even a kindergartener should be able to grasp it.
Yeah, like she was going to go against the flow.
Poor Angela got caught by her hypocrisy.
I cannot believe this woman sat there and actually had to touch the mouth of her water bottle she brought with her to see if it was in fact plastic and tried to say she didn't know if the glasses literally on her face were plastic. This is why we should not be taking these people seriously. They do not understand the consequences of their demands.
Glasses can be metal dude. Mine are
@@dani4157 what about the the pieces that sit on your nose?? 🙄
Respectfully, you literalist and unbeliever, glasses may be plastic for the convenience of Chinese manufacture but quite easily can also be - as for many generations - actually made from glass (that real McCoy glass) and metal components - it's not that difficult or alarmingly more expensive and can last longer.
@@laurijoemerick9188 Can be metal too. The latest designs have them built into the frames. But I'm not against some things being plastic that might have to be
It’s not about plastics, it’s about control. That’s why she didn’t actually know anything about plastics.
It’s exactly the same with the “stop oil” people. They all wear oil based polyester and polyurethane, travel by diesel cars wrapped in plastic. Point it out to them and they don’t have an answer.
You heard the answer right here Don't buy what you don't support
All plastics and rubber are manufactured using petroleum. There would be no indoor plumbing or electricity in 95% of homes without those two products. People would be using the bathroom in outhouses and carrying wooden buckets of water to cook, drink, and bathe. Diseases would kill millions of people each year due to less sanitary conditions.
Same with cattle and how a cow turns grass into leather, milk ,steak and fertilizer...
@@davehughesfarm7983 mmmmm steak 🥩
@@mattus1gig mmmm Anchor & Kerrygold butter 😭
Well said man. We have to be realistic in replacing plastic.
Beyond the WOKE brain stems.
We have to be realistic. (Period).
Efforts should be aimed not at elimination, which is unrealistic, but on limiting it, which could be done much easier. Efforts should be also focused on corporations, not consumers. Corporations use far too much plastic for packaging for example.
@@Sig509yes, we need to force the corporations to change. Most consumers are too lazy, or just don't care enough to change their buying habits
It's refreshing to see a comment that agrees to the reality of plastic while also knowing that we will need to replace it soon. People go on about all these things we have, and how much harm it would do if we revert back to the way things were before, but if we are being realistic, then ask yourselves, do you really think the way we are using plastic is sustainable for even the next few generations? How bad will it have to get before we start feeling forced to change because plastic has killed out so much wildlife around the planet that affects crops and all the food chains that we seem to forget we need to sustain our own lives? What's the solution? Of course single use plastics can be replaced with a variety of paper soluble objects, or cotton based products. We don't need to produce so many cars, we could have just buses on the roads which network according to the votes of locals where they would like buses to run to. And I am sure people could use wood just as much as plastic in technology if manufactures was careful enough to print onto it all that gold/copper that usually goes onto fibreglass circuit boards, is anyone even trying to look for alternatives? I think that should be the question? Are we just going to wait until things get so bad that we will have to experience a mass global extinction event and go back to stone age living anyway?
If you believe it. Live it that way.👍🏻
She wants to ban single use plastic? Well, I am a nurse and the amount of single use plastic and rubber products we use on a daily basis in our hospitals is _insane._ Rubber gloves, hypodermic needles, IV lines, drip bottles, dispensers of all kinds, blister packaging, ... And we have not even talked about all the medical equipment like ECG-units, x-ray and MRT devices, pacemakers, ... Good luck replacing that.
1000% correct! Highschool students I teach know this!
So what you saying there were no working hospital untill. Plastic came along. Fuck the gloves they used to wash their hands. Lol
@@petethewrist Single use medical devices and supplies were regulated into existence to ensure patient safety.
www.cdc.gov/hai/organisms/organisms.html
@@petethewrist Of course their were hospitals before plastics came along. However, I just suspect that given a choice, you would choose to have surgery in a modern hospital where diseases and operation complexity and success rates are a little better than before plastics, wouldn't you?
@@marks1014 was it not for population explosion and too much plastic we would not have half the ills we do now. Plastic is a killer and should be stopped there are modern alternatives for most shit.
Thank you Ms. Jackson. Also thanks to senator Mullin.
Gotta love it when sensible people provide FACTS!
No he was just being condesending. He wouldn't let her answer the question and ignored her when she did get in her one point that eliminating single use plastics was her primary goal (which would not include any of the items he mentioned).
@@bgbgbg123 She only changed it to single use plastics when she got called out on her naive statement.
@@chbu7081 no. he cut her off as she was starting to make that point. typical politico/lawyer behaviour to drive his point by stopping the other person before they can get their full point across at 0.18 and then condescendingly and repeatedly making the same point over and over
Oh come on, we've got to reduce our plastic use.
It's now in the air we breath & the water we drink. It's inside our bodies & we're now partly made of plastic!. Babies are now being born, with plastic inside their bodies!.
Nicely said senator. Practical and quite logical arguments with a satisfactory conclusion.
“I mean in my dream world”
Girl needs to spend her time finding solutions, rather than protesting.
I have dreams too…wet dreams…😍
Rather than dreaming 😂
She does not have the brains to find any solutions. That is a job for scientists and engineers, not people who live in dream worlds.
When she says in her dream world, that means she isn't out of touch with reality and she isn't saying we must suddenly stop all plastic manufacturing. But this guy sure wants to make it look like she is saying that. I wonder why. And she gave the solution. She is talking about taking small steps to reducing plastic manufacturing.
there needs to be gov incentives to find solutions. it's not her job. she point's to the issue.
"In my dream world", one of the most serious issues of the young generation is being separated from reality.
It’s getting kind of creepy. My lgbtq activist cousin (who I love dearly) mentioned that her dreamworld is one without straight people.
It broke my heart. Like idk how these people get to their “dream worlds” without hurting a lot of other people first. Can you say… genocide?
Young people dream, are idealist and often a little separated from reality. That's not new and it's not bad per se. They will eventually get old. No worries. And, in general, the world is getting older.
Did everyone just ignore the "but" before this guy decided to go on a rant?
Worst yet..having government dictate reality.
@@Tiago_R_Ribeiro Just because they get old doesn't mean they will get wise. Ignorance doesn't just disappear with time.
This guy is thoughtful, knowledgeable, realistic, and gets straight to the point without purposefully shaming. Really well done.
It was a perfect example of how to get a thought across to someone who hasn't thought through their narrative. The fact that the other people there backed up his concerns and questions was awesome.
Yes, the fact that he didn't shame the first lady speaking was impressive. It's very easy to point out the error of someone's line of thinking without being condescending or shaming. Had he launched into a "you said plastics are bad...but you are wanting to bring down an entire industry and all workers in this industry are bad" it would have been a completely different conversation and lost it's meaning. So, good for this Congressman for being civil to this lady.
True but he also should’ve shamed her because she wasted everyone’s time with that Ludacris proposal.
@@CarnivoreguyScott hopefully this discussion redirected her thoughts to reality. Short-sighted liberal progressives cause problems as they have ulterior motivates for policymaking
The problem is there's things we could make without plastic or less plastic, but the products aren't being made that way. So much food product uses excessive plastic making it impossible unless you have your own restorative farm. If I buy a PC part the packaging is excessive plastic, it just never ends.
I love it when someone in our government actually has common sense and knows what they are talking about
They have common sense, that's why they are in government.
"If you believe it, then live it that way" - Sen. Markwayne Mullin June 14 2023
@SaltyBrains
And they have 29 thumbs up!?🙄
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@SaltyBrains Very good point. I will do an edit back to the 14th. Kinda cyber time warping. 😄😄
@@jaytee2642 Incredible Fact: Most people read the content and miss the typos. (Now corrected at 45 likes) 🙄
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Wait till she finds out about the plastic insulation on electrical wiring.
Can we bring back the knob and tube? 😂
@@DastardlyBastard It's 2023, she may have her own lol
Holy hell that was a massacre! I appreciate how he essentially had the sit down and reality check her father never did with her.
Thank you, thanks for indulging sir!!!!!!!!
Reminds me of a woman once telling me I was cruel for eating meat while standing in front of me carrying a leather purse and wearing leather shoes and a leather belt!
Not condoning cigarettes but reminds me of a guy walking out of mcdonalds with a bag in his hand asking me why im doing something harmful to my body. Probably the most confusing moment of my life
Ummm I hope you pointed that out and laughed in her face😂
those animals usually don't get murdered for the leather. leather is a byproduct of animals that die. not the other way around. fur sure. leather absolutely not
Right and manufacturers just sit and wait for animals to die and they will be like oh ye a cow just died let's go harvest the parts. I see.
@@marshmallowmann20 killing for food is not murder. Humans are not herbivores, not even omnivores.. we need meat and animal fats to be healthy.
Calling it mirder ( killing an animal to eat it), is just as stupid as calling out plastic whithout thinking about all the places it is used.
I would call it more like murder, to poison, trap and shoot every animal that tries to eat a plant crop, or lives very close to it, or drinks water that is poisoned by runoff from it.
THOSE animals are mostly burned or buried.. not used for anything.
Ms' Jackson sounds like a parent patiently explaining how the world works to a child.
Best comment here
I mean... have you heard how some Leftists act? She might as well be talking to a child!
She sounds like an oil lobbyist.
These are the best and brightest? We are going to be taken over by Cuba!
Hyprocrypts are idiots
Love him proving her wrong and pointing out all that she uses and wants to stop! Great work ...
why? Are you fine with all the plastic floating around in the ocean? We're literally covered in plastic. She also said she wants to initially focus on single use plastic which none of the things he named are single use plastic.
Yeah. Of course had he allowed her to speak, I’m sure she could have saved him a lot of time by saying she realises banning all plastic is not practical. But he had this all prepared, so made sure to not waste it.
@@bgbgbg123 - Then tell the countries throwing it the ocean to stop. It surprises me how many people think that America is going to be able to stop China and India keeping on what they're doing while we suffer without. Most of you would be too scared to tell someone not to litter. ESPECIALLY if they're one those minorities or homeless that are just 'trying to survive'.
@@bgbgbg123 she did, and that's a wonderful goal, but did you ignore everything else she said? She only said that after her original more sweeping statement had been proven ridiculous and then she made it clear even after saying that that she still wanted to get rid of all plastic eventually. His point was not that we shouldn't work on reducing the single use plastic in the ocean - his point was it's ignorant to say sweeping statements like she did and she's holding to a dogmatic ideal rather than reality or thinking of consequences (which is sadly the biggest difference right now between the left and the right, and I'm someone that tends to lean towards the left).
@@dillydadally Hard agree. I used to be left, then centrist, and now I'm right wing. I don't how how people with any capacity for critical thinking can support the left right now.
Very interesting video, calm and polite "interrogation" of an ill-informed lady. Factual, informed counter argument offered by Sen Mullin in a very precise manner. Such debates should be engaged for the many similar environmental campaigns offered by people who don't do their homework and/or cannot offer viable alternatives.
Senator Mullin should stand for President.
We need MUCH more of this, Sen. Mullin.❗ Thank you❗
Youth ages
Immaturity is outgrown
Ignorance can be educated
And drunkenness sobered
But Stupid lasts forever
This statement completely describes the first witness
I don't think even a poet could have put it better. Nice job!
Ignorance is bliss... for the rest of us, it's a pain in the ass.
The first witness certainly fits a few of those.
Or said another way .... "we can't fix Stupid".
Well said Mr. Hundert
Angelle Bradford, not sure how she was able to navigate her way to this courtroom today. That woman is a piece of work!
Yes, we should stop producing products from plastic. OMFG, leftists are nuts, crazy, not normal.
She’s another example of the delusional progressive socialists being created in the Leftist run schools and colleges across the USA.
I respect Ms Jackson. She is calm and has her facts on her subject matter.
These people who are called in for testimonies are so disconnected from reality it's mind blowing.
Is it truly so impossible to replace single use plastic straws with biodegradable plant fiber straws?
Yes-- the EPA. What do they know?
Who are these people! Where do they dig them up? They are so undereducated. She is frightening in her lack of facts.
universities around the country.
They are people who don't understand and don't want to understand how the modern world works. Stop drilling for oil and there will be no more plastic or rubber. That means no more electricity or indoor plumbing. We basically go back to living in the 1800's and billions of people will die.
marxists are everywhere there's urban filth
Probably Ivy League.
She wrote what her examiners wanted to read! It mattered little that what she wrote was garbage!
She did not expect her false logic to be questioned. She literally expected to do a monologue and everybody nodding along. Playing dumb in the real world does not work
Well, she never said that she wanted to stop plastic manufacturing now, she just said "in my dream world yes" and then wanted to talk about single use plastic (which she doesn't seem like using) but the gentleman stopped her and started doing his monologue. She never played dumb or anything
@@mathiasdu30000 It's a senate hearing. Don't start with "ban ALL plastic", and end up on, "well, just single use..."
Go in with a plan, you know, something for them to actually hear.
She did not volunteer her answer about single use plastic. He probed her for that answer. That means she did not properly formulate a response or give any thoughts to how others would reply to her initial statement about ALL plastics, which was her initial intent. Also, once he pointed out her fallacy, she quickly changed her tune. Suddenly, her argument changed to "single use plastics." This word was never in her vernacular and was not evoked during her initial statement. She was clear in her intent. She would not have been challenged on her statement to remove all plastics had her framing been correct to begin with. I am calling bullshit on a otherise bullshit argument. OP was correct. The man literally changed her mind with one poignant fact and reduced her sentiment from all plastics to this made-up "single use plastic." Also, what even is single use plastic? Do IVs count? What are we defending here?
Actually ppl r dumb and they go around being dumb in the real world. It is also a clown world with mentally ill men and women pretending to be things they can never be. We pretend our money is real. We pretend the big pharma companies actually provide health care. We pretend Biden and Fetterman are lucid and not riddled with dementia. This country is straight up dying and nobody even cares.
That's because she is normally within her own in-group bubble and everyone nods their heads and applauds and pats her on the back for repeating their own in-group dogma and thus Obviously being smarter than those who do not embrace their in-group dogma.
When I need to hear someone speak sense, t counteract the madness I keep hearing, I come back to this. 👏🌻
I agree with cutting down on single use plastics as much as possible but wanting to stop using plastic altogether is utterly insane as pointed out in this video.
It's the same level of hypocrisy that a certain vegitarian and eco activist child from a northern country displays during an interview (in winter, in a nordic country) whining about how we are "destroying the earth" for her generation... and yet she has BANANAS and AVOCADOS. On her table. She even mentions how much she loves bananas...
Got news for ya squirt... those don't grow in the north in December. Just saying.
What's insane is making everything out of an estrogenic material that lowers sperm count, testosterone, and makes men more feminine.
you cant ban single use plastic. it will hike the price and country like china will import cheap single use plastic vs your expensive alternative
Had refinery protestors at one of the refineries up here. Gas powered, petroleum based plastic cars, petroleum based kayaks for the water, petroleum based clothes, water bottles, bags
And they left trash EVERYWHERE even though they were “environmentalists” and we are still pulling their bags and bottles off of and out of fish that wash up because they have died from THEIR pollution
@@Aiveq People used to reuse their plastic, but the plastic industry didn't like that. They want you to throw away plastic, just so they can produce more and 90% of it is not recycled, because recycling costs money. They campaigned millions of dollars back in the 80s to convice you to throw it away.
When she is an example of what to expect from witnesses giving testimony, and she is far from alone, our education system is an absolute failure.
The educational system is working perfectly fine as it is made for indoctrination purposes not for educational purposes.
@@Shadow-ze8zb That's a fair point.
@Marian Norton tbh education is more like a business, they care more about money than the knowledge they need to provide to the students
They teaches critical race theory rather than science and math.
Massive failure; even some college stidents are toally ignorant about simple things, that were once learned in high school. listening to these supposed educated persons talking about any sublect makes you cringe about how vacant their heads are.
"Aren't your glasses frames made out of plastic?"
"Maybe?"
WOW. Just wow.
the lens are also plastic.
Oh wow.......not
Are glasses a 'single use product'?
@@simonoc
No. What does that have to do with anything?
@@oggyoggy1299 The person with the glasses tried to bring up single use plastic, but he cut her off. Reducing single use plastic could help reduce the amount of plastic garbage.
LONG LIVE PLASTICS! May your reign forever!
If I were there I'd stand up and clap for this guy. He's stating only the obvious and you can tell none of these people have given it one second of thought
and standing ovation to ram it home for the sheep that still didn't get it
It's kind of strawmaning her point. You don't have to provide a solution to point out a problem. I don't know why people can't understand that.
Is plastic pervasive in our world? Yes. Is it tied economically to our world and our products? Yes. Is it an environmental problem for the ecosystem and life on the planet(which ultimately effects us)? Yes.
Does she have any good solutions? No. That doesn't mean her point or concern isn't valid.
They're activists, not academics. Sure, they might be educated, but that doesn't mean they are smart, or even knows anything.
@@karn6213
"That doesn't mean her point or concern isn't valid."
No, it just means it's stupid.
"The sun causes sunstroke and heat exhaustion so I want to end the sun" makes about as much sense.
Get a grip, man.
@@karn6213 I'd agree with you if it WAS just POINTING OUT the problem, but it's not.
These people are actively campaigning for these things to end.
I'm all for problems to be pointed out, but you cannot expect to end something without a viable alternative.
The problem is not what is invalidated here, it's the attempt to end something without a solution that is.
We have the same problem over here in Australia with Oil/Gas drilling.
The protestors want it ended but cannot offer one alternative that would allow that to be so.
It's pointless to just keep saying 'Stop this' if there is no other alternative, they should be researching alternatives and offering solutions.
Her answer of 'I don't know' to what things are made of, is distressing. Especially as she wants to ban one material but has no replacement for it in place.
Just because plastic is useful doesn't mean we should let plastic companies pump out so much of the crap unnecessarily, reducing plastic is totally feasible, will save money in the long run, and will be better for the environment
How can democrats have such strong opinions on stuff they know nothing about? I love hearing how dangerous nuclear power is and all I have to ask them is, "How many nuclear disasters have there been that affected the community outside the plant?" I get Fukushima and Chernobyl as the two main answers. Most of them don't even know about 3 Mile Island (although, no material escaped that disaster, but they don't even know about it). Then I ask them how many coal plant disasters have there been....crickets. Just to make a point, there have been hundreds and coal plants have released more radiation that every nuclear plant disaster to date. There is natural radiation in coal. Bananas too but we can still eat those. These people are pushing a narrative and nothing else.
@@testingmysoup5678 "...doesn't mean we should let plastic companies pump out so much of the crap unnecessarily..."
Who is "we" and who empowered "we" with the right to "let" other free people do anything? I'm all for reducing plastics and the environmental impact but it has to be done in a way that uses reason and also respects the independence and liberty of others. Top down, knee-jerk, emotional legislation leads to tyranny if unchecked.
@@ClockworkWyrm there is a place for emotion, if she weren't emotionally invested she wouldn't be speaking there. Yeah she could use more help on the other aspects but the speakers arguments weren't reasonable at all. She stated she wanted to reduce plastic and he started naming things that needed plastic as if she said she wanted to eliminate them. That was an illogical emotional argument on his end protecting corruption
It really makes you wonder why she is sitting there as an "expert" in plastic prevention, when she don't even know the materials that the products she has on herself are made of. it shows that she is just full of bs ideology and not of knowledge.
If you want to end single-use plastic items, then again, as the very fine gentleman said, it's up to you to live it, and the key is education and a shift in social trends, NOT ending manufacturing of plastics. Throw out the baby with the bathwater. This is first-order thinking and she's an embarrassment.
Where did she come from?
It is always other people that should make the sacrifices, not them.
Same with petroleum, it's used in everything.
@@RickeyMcDaniel Plastics come from petroleum.
@@marysisak2359 Got that right!
She should be real embarrassed
Wow thank you Miss Jackson for that truly heartfelt and uplifting speech and explanation of what it means to elevate people in today's society.
I actually do this with my students as a way to show that solutions aren't as easy as they think they are, and the world is more complicated than they think.
He could have even taken it a step further and mentioned that the fossil fuels they are hellbent to eliminate are integral in the creation of all plastics. She’d be living her dream if they eliminated fossil fuel because all those items he rattled off wouldn’t be possible, including their precious electric cars, because without petroleum and natural gas you cannot manufacture plastic.
And the last option is....close their eyes? Hide the head in he ground? "If I don't think of it, it doesn't exist'"?
@@iknotlkuikatl815 that’s what they do best… ignore reality and facts… 🙈 🙉🙊
you actually do what with your students? I saw no acknowledgement in either politician's statement that any action could be taken on the subject of single-use plastics. I just saw some major deflection (oh, look at this naive young girl trying to tell me about plastics) and (from what it seems to me) misquoting. Is that what you do -- deflect and misquote? I hope not.
@@asciiguy1 Really? You are incapable of understanding @SLagonia is stating that he presents challenges to his Students as a way to help them recognize that consideration regarding cause and effect must be taken into account before making a drastic change or implementing a change to something.
The first woman got her knowledge from twitter. The 2nd woman got her knowledge from real life and books.
If women became the future of society we are going downhill
Fax
Bingo. As a man with several degrees from elite institutions, I cannot agree more. I come from a poor background and was fortunate enough to make it out, but I have never forgotten what its like to be poor, to get evicted and to be homeless. My greatest knowledge did NOT come from a university classroom, but from the school of hard knocks or as Mark Twain said:
"I never let my schooling get in the way of my education."
She didn't even had the opportunity to answer though. What you just saw was not a fair debate
@@Shepherdd__it was purposely left out to save her some face.
this was the most satisfying video i've seen in a very long time
That was one of the most intelligent, well articulated interactions that I have ever had the pleasure to watch. If only more Americans would understand these simple truths, based on facts, not feelings, perhaps America could return to her former glory.
One side of it is
The fallacy here with the belief that people [should] make understanding of simple truths based on facts is that you assume ...
1, facts and truth are the same thing; they are not, in fact truth is based on feelings just as much as facts.
2. That current facts we have are reliable, when in fact they can be unreliable. Reliable facts in a lot of ways conform to or are brought forth from societal truths.
3. Also assume that people have the right discernment to make good behavioral decision based on facts(if assumption 2 is valid). Just because people have the right facts doesn't mean they will make or have made the right decisions.
This whole "facts don't/shouldn't care about feelings" is just asinine. We all make decisions based on feelings; it's impossible not to. We are all, unless you are a psychopath, feeling beings as much as we are rational beings.
And also, do want to "return [to] formal glory"? Isn't it much better to pave towards a better and more modern version of our world rather than remain anchored to your past(which a lot of is based on feelings, nostalgia is a powerful. Unless it was traumatic, we generally only remember the good moments of our past)?
@karn6213 I agree with you. I'm so tired of people choosing to ignore people's feelings and others choosing to ignore real information. Like wtf, it's not mandatory that they be mutually exclusive. The synthesis position: it is psychologically healthy to feel a type of way about excessive environmental plastics because they're uptaken into the soil and biosphere and they upset human hormonal functioning, hence all the low testosterone and increasing PCOS. If you don't feel bad about that, something is wrong with you. Next, how do we mitigation and reconcile these realities? Maybe we can still use plastics if we can eliminate them quicker? How do we do that? Are there biodegradable alternatives? Can we render existing ones as such? See how inductive and deductive reasoning can be used together informed with emotional valence from a real problem supported by facts? "Seek and ye shall find, knock and the door shall be opened unto you."
Damn, he's so convincing that hes got me believing that even I am somehow also made out of plastic
Perhaps a good percentage of our body is made of plastic at this point
😂😂😂😂😂
You do get a daily amount in your food and drinking water, plus the air it's an essential part of a healthy diet.
Many women are. 😂
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I would give her credit that yes, single-use plastics need to be dealt with, except she was only saying it in an attempt to weasel her way around his questions.
Yup, she went into defense mode there haha
But even this is a dead end because one of the biggest users of single use plastic is _modern medicine._
Plastic straw versus paper straw.
Plastic wins every time in a taste test. Have tried both plactic won out, hands down
@@markgiltner7358 metal straws are nice too!
@@markgiltner7358 there is a straw made out of pasta, there are those out of inox steel, or simply don't use fking straws. that's why we need legislation, instead of his gotcha trick answers for internet fame.
How do people get into these senate hearings??? Why is she in there? She's obviously super ignorant on the topic...
She had me at "I do not know what they are made of". This is stupidity in America in action " :-)
They know the answer, but they will say they do not know to avoid looking like a fool .. little did she know ... ..
@@brendad.c114 Woman with glasses made a fool of herself. No need to speculate whether or not she knew the answers.
A voice of reason. Thank God. I’m so tired of people pontificating yet offering no realistic alternative to what they want to terminate.
Eliminating paper bags was done by Jeff Bezos because he couldn't source cardboard in volume for Amazon boxes while paper bags proliferated. He's the cause. Lets end Amazon and see what happens.
there won't be any realistic alternative ever, if none is being searched for, and it's not posed as an issue.
there won't be any realistic alternative ever, if we go on by his arguments "how things stand now".
Thats what happens if you let kids argue
I love when the last well educated lady said:” poverty, not plastic is destroying lives.” 🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌
No. Stupidity and laziness is destroying life.
@@Trevor_Austinthere are people who are born poor and will die poor. It happens. You can't blame the people fully
ok tell me how much pollutions does it cause in production of platic, I agree with him that plastic is essential so we cant ban it but we can reduce it,they pollute environment .major emissions from plastic production processes include sulfur oxides, nitrous oxides, methanol, ethylene oxide, and volatile organic compounds.OK tell what happens to lands and water bodies around factories bruh. Health is biggest wealth,
When you put women in charge:
Hahaha amazing
Living in Canada, I had a similar talk with my then 14 year old granddaughter. She spoke of about having free hamburgers at a school dance. "Niice. Who paid for the meat? Who paid for the buns? What about the plates and utensils?" "So grandad, then free healthcare isn't free because your taxes pay for it?" She's been a conservative ever since and I've been a very proud grandfather. She's 22 now and still reasons things through, mostly.
Good for you for educating your granddaughter! Teaching her critical thinking skills.
Nice! Good grand parenting.
Reason and facts are the deathknell of liberal socialism. That said, I still want my free money and benefits for existing.
Now that's Parenting we can respect.
He schooled that first lady as if she were a child and rightly so. Trying to pretend she didn't know her glasses were made of plastic was something a child or a child-like mind would do.
Exactly! Just like the mouthpiece on her bottle, like 🤌😑
Child-like mind or just STUPID? Children often don't know because they haven't had enough education and experience. If SHE doesn't know, it's because she has chosen to drink the Kool-aid and be STUPID!
Sounds like a Bud Light drinker to me.
Until a cheaper, but equally durable, alternative is discovered, we need plastic
In her case, I don't think she is intelligent enough to qualify as a child.
just PERFECT...
THIS IS HILARIOUS, He is so great…a VOICE OF REASON pointing out all of her items that’s made of plastic… check out her facial expressions!
Did she not KNOW this going in??? How is it that they even let her on the stand without screening her before she makes a fool of herself??