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The clear plastic on the OEM pads are standard btw 3:04 , it took me like 3 hours to get them on properly, there was always a flap sticking out, truly the worst experience of my life
I have the HD800S TBH I have the two stock pads and dekoni hybrid elite I prefer the stock pad they are more close to the sound and more comfortable when I put the dekoni pads everything sound away and linear I don't know much about audiophile but I just say what I hear also Zeus plug it with amp that connected with High quality preamp it will improve the sound a lot I am using the HDV 820 as preamp and you can hear more natural 3D sound like everything sound chill.
I am using fenestrated sheepskin on HD660s - comfort is amazing and I don't think they do much to sound signature. Some slight changes? Maybe, but really hard to tell when going A-B with brand new original ones. And again, comfort rocks. Soft sheep leather full of holes for the win :)
@@FabioKasper if you lay both flat then not by a lot really, but the surface that touches your face is much fuller - not angled like in original ones, just a big soft leathery area. And foam is much, much softer too.
@@tazeru see i find this odd, because leather is cold and not something i'd want to lay on or have on my face. I have leather furniture but i always put a blanket down or something because its just not comfy
@@mat.b. well, I wouldn't compare furnitures to headphone pads, this leather is very thin and heats up to your body temperature straight away. Leather headphone pads are not something uncommon after all and speaking about this very video Zeos also praised the comfort of fenestrated sheepskin pads
You want to change your HD 800s sound signature? Add some low end/Bass? Mellow out the Trebel if you’re treble sensitive? Get a Schiit Lokius or Loki Mini+ EQ. Works wonders on any headphone actually and can makes them an all a rounder type headphone
Hey @Zeos, just so you know, the stock Sennheiser dust covers are acoustically transparent 😉 I’ve tested it, so no worries. How ya doing? Btw, @18:03 you put the headphones on backwards 😅
I mean, it'll almost definitely change the tuning, so your eq preset will need to be adjusted if you're looking to retain the same sound signature that you currently have.
Is it just my screwed up eyes or at 15:41 does he take them off his head showing that he was wearing them backwards. Probably just me but I was wondering. (It could be my eyes, I have double vision so it could easily be me.)
@@ZReviews It is not that difficult to try them again, and write a comment saying: "yeah, they sound exactly the same" or: "they sound somewhat different when you wear them as they were designed" No one asked to repeat the video or take it down. That's a textbook straw man falacy. The whole video is about how different materials change sound. Just writing a comment could clarify this. The rest of the video is great, as your work is great. No need to get defensive, but I can understand that internet comments could sound like a hater or something...
@@euphoreonz completely agree, the fenestrated ruins the sound signature. I got the elite velour slim pads instead and they sound the same as stock but with way better comfort.
thats for doing this review, have been wondering about the Dekoni pads on 800 for a while, reddit doesnt have much input other than "all dekoni pads suck dont bother"
@@drewbocop yeah they told me to buy Sennheiser OEM ($120) and not AliExpress replacement ($15) "because it's specifically tuned" (bullshit) so I bought both. Ali was superior material quality, denser, and better sound.
@@drewbocop think they meant the drivers are tuned for that material, but that's a lie because the original HD800 pads were literally velvety velour, now they're cheap foam.
Z, off topic question. I'm looking at the KEF Q100's and the Klipsch RP150M's for desk AND living room speakers. I listen to everything but metal, I don't need super-loud, and I like a balance between accurate and pleasant. Thoughts?
This is the review I was waiting for. I already have the HD800’s with Sheepskin pads, but my experience with them are different/better then your experience with them.
I just got my fenestrated sheepskin pads and tried them out with my 8xxs... I hate them. To my ear they boosted treble and made everything slightly nasally. Anyone else have this experience? They were an absolute bitch to get off too so I kind of want to retest them but I also just want to send them back and get my money back.
I read some reviews saying that all the dekoni pads for the HD8xx headphones were bad since they're so much thicker than stock they really change the position of your ear relative to the driver.
Based on their own graphs all of these pads have reduced bass and boosted treble response compare to original pad, how come they sound 'warmer' and 'better' than original pad?
I got the fenestrated sheepskin and they make the HD800S unbearably bright and sibilant. Not a pleasant listen. Stock is FAR better. Maybe they suit the HD8XX more, but jeez what a waste.
ghad I feel like they baton switched this shit on Zeos...i finally got my 8XX's and they were AWFUL with the sheepskin...waiting on the hybrids to see if that fixes antyhing...but the fenstrated sheepskin is absolutely PAINFUL....
@@euphoreonz YESSS! Anything I listened to was utterly painful..which is the exact opposite experience on these pads for the 660S. I'm going to order the hybrids just to test them out, but I'm with you for the 8XXs, the stock pads sound way better.
I got the sheepskin leather because I removed the dampening foam on the outter driver. I noticed there is a slight increase in width and I maintain the low end that the foam offered with the leather pads. It’s also WAY more comfy.
I had fenestraded sheepskin on 58x, now on 660s, and in both cases it is absolutely fine. No audible changes to sound signature from what I can hear and comfort is much, much better.
Have you tried them with HD800s. Which one would be your choice for HD800s. I need a bit warmer sounds and less fatiguing treble. Based on your review on HD800, my choice would be hybrid version, but I’m wondering if this will be different with HD800s?
I use the AHG Perforated Sheepskin Leather pads with my set of HD 800 S, those are what you want. They sound warmer, get a boost in the sub bass, and it reduces the treble just enough where it's no longer fatiguing. I imagine the Dekoni version pads sound similar. The AHG pads are excellent quality, supremely comfortable, and half the price at $40.
@@pk.002 May I ask how come there are reviews stating there saying they sound warmer and get better bass, when Dekoni's own measurements state that all pads have less bass? Asking out of curiosity since I'd love to get a bit more of bass out of my HD800s and I'm doubtful. Based on Z Reviews, best bass comes out of the Hybrid, yet I'm still wondering based on the graphs which should state facts. Cheers
@@ZReviews Then its not hybrid i allmust pulled the trigger but now i changed my mind and sheepskin in my use scenarios was allways default = Below average good/excellent :D
Hey Zeos, can you please review Anker Soundcore Life Q30? Those are BT/NFC budget headphones with a pretty good sound quality for the price (that's what I hear). Would love to hear what are your thoughts. :3
I bought a pair of Elite Hybrids for my HD58X. Drop says they were delivered Jul 5, 2019 and they are still going strong. These are my only headphones and I use my PC for school and gaming, prob 10+ hours a day.
I got a replacement pair for my drop pandas my gym head phone use 4-5 times a week 2-3 hours with sweat and bouncing around on my head they having started to crack or peel had for 10 months now
worst pads I've ever tried. Especially the leather. Nothing beats the original pads for the HD800S. If the pads on the 8xx are bad then buy the original. .
Ended up getting the Elite Hybrids for the HD800 after watching this video. Gotta say, there's added detail and notes / layers are lasting significantly longer, which I love, but it kills bass. It's a bass killer. It also rolls off highs, which on the 800s is a good thing...but sound is more airy than wide; filtered than deep. Dare I say it fucked the sound? Also they're less comfortable, material is scratchy & cheap & made me sweat like a pig. They're earmuffs with these. Unbearable for longer listening sessions, I couldnt go a straight hour. Sent them back. These are not an S, unless it's spelling a 4 letter word.
I have these dekonis as well... To add to your list of complaints: It destroyes the pinpoint imaging of the hd800. I ended up switching back to the og pads
I thought the same way when I first found him, then I was getting comfortable with him. Then I think that it will be very strange seeing him without foul language:) Yes. It is necessary now.
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You were wearing them backwards on the velour...
Look at 15:41 .
That’s why you’d probably lost bass, treble gets sibilant and soundstage is weird....
I'm getting the sense that perforated pads are just better for the sound, on pretty much every headphone.
They ruin the hd800s
The clear plastic on the OEM pads are standard btw 3:04 , it took me like 3 hours to get them on properly, there was always a flap sticking out, truly the worst experience of my life
I have the HD800S TBH I have the two stock pads and dekoni hybrid elite I prefer the stock pad they are more close to the sound and more comfortable when I put the dekoni pads everything sound away and linear I don't know much about audiophile but I just say what I hear also Zeus plug it with amp that connected with High quality preamp it will improve the sound a lot I am using the HDV 820 as preamp and you can hear more natural 3D sound like everything sound chill.
The HD8xx is a lot different compared to the Hd800s than one would expect
yo Stonk! you should do more of these pad swap vids they're fun and useful thx xoxo
I am using fenestrated sheepskin on HD660s - comfort is amazing and I don't think they do much to sound signature. Some slight changes? Maybe, but really hard to tell when going A-B with brand new original ones. And again, comfort rocks. Soft sheep leather full of holes for the win :)
I'm kind of curious to give this one a try as well. Is it way thicker than the stock ones?
@@FabioKasper if you lay both flat then not by a lot really, but the surface that touches your face is much fuller - not angled like in original ones, just a big soft leathery area. And foam is much, much softer too.
@@tazeru see i find this odd, because leather is cold and not something i'd want to lay on or have on my face. I have leather furniture but i always put a blanket down or something because its just not comfy
@@mat.b. well, I wouldn't compare furnitures to headphone pads, this leather is very thin and heats up to your body temperature straight away. Leather headphone pads are not something uncommon after all and speaking about this very video Zeos also praised the comfort of fenestrated sheepskin pads
@@tazeru yeah i understand they're used, just found it a personal preference thing, always found them cold and avoid when i see phones with leather
You want to change your HD 800s sound signature? Add some low end/Bass? Mellow out the Trebel if you’re treble sensitive? Get a Schiit Lokius or Loki Mini+ EQ. Works wonders on any headphone actually and can makes them an all a rounder type headphone
Hey @Zeos, just so you know, the stock Sennheiser dust covers are acoustically transparent 😉 I’ve tested it, so no worries.
How ya doing?
Btw, @18:03 you put the headphones on backwards 😅
i have the original HD800 EQed with oratory1990's preset with peace and i like them quite a lot, would a pad change be reasonable (besides comfort)?
I mean, it'll almost definitely change the tuning, so your eq preset will need to be adjusted if you're looking to retain the same sound signature that you currently have.
He might have an eq with the pad you want, if not you can send him the pad I believe
Is it just my screwed up eyes or at 15:41 does he take them off his head showing that he was wearing them backwards. Probably just me but I was wondering. (It could be my eyes, I have double vision so it could easily be me.)
Yeah, you are right, he was wearing them backwards.
Big facepalm. He should try them again, because he gave a very bad grade to the velour.
I wear them how I FEEL.. Also you are right. Wow. Time to delete the whole video
@@ZReviews It is not that difficult to try them again, and write a comment saying: "yeah, they sound exactly the same" or: "they sound somewhat different when you wear them as they were designed"
No one asked to repeat the video or take it down. That's a textbook straw man falacy.
The whole video is about how different materials change sound. Just writing a comment could clarify this. The rest of the video is great, as your work is great. No need to get defensive, but I can understand that internet comments could sound like a hater or something...
I got the fenestrated sheepskin for my HD800S a few months ago and never went back to stock pads.
does it change the sound much?
bruh, they absolutely ruin the HD800S sound. So bright and sibilant. Back to stock.
@@euphoreonz and what is with the Bass? Do you also tested the hybrid on the 800s?
Where I can buy this pads for 800s
@@euphoreonz completely agree, the fenestrated ruins the sound signature. I got the elite velour slim pads instead and they sound the same as stock but with way better comfort.
Sooo elite sheepskin for gaming😍😍😍😁
welp another 110€ are gone... chose the Hybrids because i like it warm
1:37 nice
Still wondering which tuning you were using for this review. Was this the same as the final tuning since they changed the final tuning quite a bit.
god tier intro fakeout
thats for doing this review, have been wondering about the Dekoni pads on 800 for a while, reddit doesnt have much input other than "all dekoni pads suck dont bother"
Which is also patently false. Thanks Reddit.
I remember when I was on Reddit. Im a better person now.
@@drewbocop yeah they told me to buy Sennheiser OEM ($120) and not AliExpress replacement ($15) "because it's specifically tuned" (bullshit) so I bought both. Ali was superior material quality, denser, and better sound.
@@mat.b. tuned pads lol
@@drewbocop think they meant the drivers are tuned for that material, but that's a lie because the original HD800 pads were literally velvety velour, now they're cheap foam.
I have the elite hybrid on my hd 800 for years the original one the first version and it was an upgrade that was better than the original😎
are these still the best pads to get for the 8xx, Z?
Z, off topic question. I'm looking at the KEF Q100's and the Klipsch RP150M's for desk AND living room speakers. I listen to everything but metal, I don't need super-loud, and I like a balance between accurate and pleasant. Thoughts?
I'm still trying to figure out what size Dakoni tips would fit best for the tin hifi t4s.
POP POP!
Love ya Z
This is the review I was waiting for. I already have the HD800’s with Sheepskin pads, but my experience with them are different/better then your experience with them.
Can these be driven by an avr?
I just got my fenestrated sheepskin pads and tried them out with my 8xxs... I hate them. To my ear they boosted treble and made everything slightly nasally. Anyone else have this experience? They were an absolute bitch to get off too so I kind of want to retest them but I also just want to send them back and get my money back.
I read some reviews saying that all the dekoni pads for the HD8xx headphones were bad since they're so much thicker than stock they really change the position of your ear relative to the driver.
Based on their own graphs all of these pads have reduced bass and boosted treble response compare to original pad, how come they sound 'warmer' and 'better' than original pad?
I got the fenestrated sheepskin and they make the HD800S unbearably bright and sibilant. Not a pleasant listen. Stock is FAR better. Maybe they suit the HD8XX more, but jeez what a waste.
ghad I feel like they baton switched this shit on Zeos...i finally got my 8XX's and they were AWFUL with the sheepskin...waiting on the hybrids to see if that fixes antyhing...but the fenstrated sheepskin is absolutely PAINFUL....
@@palmsun Yup, they were utterly piercing even in gaming.
@@euphoreonz YESSS! Anything I listened to was utterly painful..which is the exact opposite experience on these pads for the 660S.
I'm going to order the hybrids just to test them out, but I'm with you for the 8XXs, the stock pads sound way better.
@@palmsun How were the hybrids? Any better?
Would you recommend the Fenestrated pads on a 58x
I got the sheepskin leather because I removed the dampening foam on the outter driver. I noticed there is a slight increase in width and I maintain the low end that the foam offered with the leather pads. It’s also WAY more comfy.
I had fenestraded sheepskin on 58x, now on 660s, and in both cases it is absolutely fine. No audible changes to sound signature from what I can hear and comfort is much, much better.
Does the elite hybrid isolate better then the stock pads?
Idk why I keep watching this, can't afford those beauties anyway lmao
MSR7b review somewhere this year perhaps?
Have you tried them with HD800s. Which one would be your choice for HD800s. I need a bit warmer sounds and less fatiguing treble. Based on your review on HD800, my choice would be hybrid version, but I’m wondering if this will be different with HD800s?
I use the AHG Perforated Sheepskin Leather pads with my set of HD 800 S, those are what you want. They sound warmer, get a boost in the sub bass, and it reduces the treble just enough where it's no longer fatiguing. I imagine the Dekoni version pads sound similar. The AHG pads are excellent quality, supremely comfortable, and half the price at $40.
@@pk.002 May I ask how come there are reviews stating there saying they sound warmer and get better bass, when Dekoni's own measurements state that all pads have less bass?
Asking out of curiosity since I'd love to get a bit more of bass out of my HD800s and I'm doubtful.
Based on Z Reviews, best bass comes out of the Hybrid, yet I'm still wondering based on the graphs which should state facts.
Cheers
Are the fenestrated sheepskin more comfortable than the hybrid (which have velour touching your head)?
yes in my opinion.
@@ZReviews Then its not hybrid i allmust pulled the trigger but now i changed my mind and sheepskin in my use scenarios was allways default = Below average good/excellent :D
@@konna200 its hybrid because theres velour on the inside but sheepskin on the outer (and fenestrated on the inside ring)
@@mat.b. Ok, thanks mate. =)
Do you have a pad swap vid for the GL2000's?
Which pads does Zeos uze on his hd600?
review the drop+hifiman he 4x
Focal's next please!!!
What dekonis do you have on the hd600s
Andddd just bought a pair. Damn you impulse purchases!
i finally broke down 4 days and 20 watches later, "these pads best pads," did it for me
Am I tripping or did you wear the headphones backwards for the last pair of pads?
If I did I am sure it was for comic effect. But I doubt I did
Yes, he did have the last pair on backwards for sure, and a small shift in the position of an 800 driver can have a fairly big effect.
Hey Zeos, can you please review Anker Soundcore Life Q30? Those are BT/NFC budget headphones with a pretty good sound quality for the price (that's what I hear). Would love to hear what are your thoughts. :3
So we have spend 180 dollars now
This mousepad looks like German flag :D fit nice to HD8xx
How long do Dekoni pads tend to last on active use?
I bought a pair of Elite Hybrids for my HD58X. Drop says they were delivered Jul 5, 2019 and they are still going strong. These are my only headphones and I use my PC for school and gaming, prob 10+ hours a day.
Expect the foam to last at least 3 times longer than stock. Outside materials are always subject to wear and tear though.
I got a replacement pair for my drop pandas my gym head phone use 4-5 times a week 2-3 hours with sweat and bouncing around on my head they having started to crack or peel had for 10 months now
have you tried steelseries arctis headsets
i just want to know how dogshit sound quality they are
my lg has a 21:9 screen, and a headphone jack. most phones target aspect ratio that now
Camera doesn't seem to like your monitors refresh rate.
I forced it to 1/60 shutter recently. See if that helps. Also adjusted the monitor brightness
PWM!
But Zeos you're never allowed to swap sennheiser pads it's sacrilegious
BUT can you swap DROP pads?
See reviews when is the next game fidelity because you said you have one planned
I do I just need to get hyped and do it.
@@ZReviews do you think grados would be decent for games, or nah?
@@user-fb1pk2yw8w Yes 100% but you gotta sort the comfort first.
@@ZReviews got it. Time to get those big pads then. Thanks!
Hewo! I hope everyone is having a great day!
~Padswapalooza~
Unrelated but should I buy the original Shouer tapes for 50usd?
YES! Be ready to eventually EQ them and make sure they are in a good condition (specifically the MMCX connectors). For 50 dollars fuck yeah.
yes
#STAXBRO
worst pads I've ever tried. Especially the leather. Nothing beats the original pads for the HD800S. If the pads on the 8xx are bad then buy the original. .
originals blow (too)
@@mat.b. for comfort.. but makes the sound worst in every single way.. maybe on the 8xx that has trash tuning it might make improvements
@@MrPanda771 which? I found the Dekoni's both uncomfortable and horrible for sound.
From what I’ve read . The dekoni pads Rubin the 800s but actually improve the 8xx
Ended up getting the Elite Hybrids for the HD800 after watching this video. Gotta say, there's added detail and notes / layers are lasting significantly longer, which I love, but it kills bass. It's a bass killer. It also rolls off highs, which on the 800s is a good thing...but sound is more airy than wide; filtered than deep. Dare I say it fucked the sound? Also they're less comfortable, material is scratchy & cheap & made me sweat like a pig. They're earmuffs with these. Unbearable for longer listening sessions, I couldnt go a straight hour.
Sent them back. These are not an S, unless it's spelling a 4 letter word.
I have these dekonis as well...
To add to your list of complaints:
It destroyes the pinpoint imaging of the hd800.
I ended up switching back to the og pads
Now we have 30mins pads swap videos... 🥴
Z shilling for 8XX for that sweet commission and only getting 4 figure views. ogre for u zeos your time is come
Here we go just ruin HD800s even more.
no u
Your foul language ruins the review!
@@Gandalf721 Is it necessary in a review?
I thought the same way when I first found him, then I was getting comfortable with him. Then I think that it will be very strange seeing him without foul language:) Yes. It is necessary now.
@@TheMcinto65 Yes.
Foul language ? What are we 5? It's technical talk