Agreed - I’d always prefer a detailed review with time stamps (we can always watch on a faster speed if pressed for time). So long as everything you put in the script is relevant and important to pass on, it’s worth sharing and that’s what we’re here for.
Regarding the depth of pads and its affect on bass, I had always assumed that deeper would provide more surface area to reinforce/amplify the bass, but with my HD650's, for example, I have found that bass increases (and I think treble actually decreases) as the pads get older and more compressed...so less deep. Also, I have experienced similar when I have tried pushing headphones onto my head, so that the drivers are nearer my ears. I know with closed backs this is sometimes because the seal improves, but I've also found it the case with already well sealed closed backs and with open backs. Having said all this, a slightly deeper/bigger set of pads with my K371's did increase bass.
You can make pads really cheaply if you know how to use a sewing machine and get whatever material fits your preference like I made super plush soft leather ear pads out of a old welding jacket and purple foam for the cushion on the inside
Hey guys. The hybrid Hifiman velour/microfiber base with leather on the outside is actually quite scratchy on your face compared to leather/pleather. The super soft Alcantara that my HD800 has is a super duper soft comfortable material. Hope this helps someone. Sadly there are no full leather or Alcantera pad replacements for the large yolk Arya/Ananda/etc shape so far including none from Dekoni so far as of Aug 2020 I believe
Re Brainwavz XL fitted to AKG K5500 - likes: readily available, easy to fit, comfortable, good external sound exclusion. Dislikes: thicker than the originals. This moves the drivers further away from the ears and this affects the sound more than you might expect. Test by pressing the back of the headphones with your fingers which move the drivers closer to your ears. The sound changes a lot - warmer and more engaging to my ears, although the sound otherwise is acceptable. If AKG make the originals available again I will buy them, but these will do in the meantime.
A while ago I put ZMF lambskin pads and the headband on my logitech g933 and it worked a charm. Not only are they extremely comfortable but the sound got cupped in and believe it or not the sound quality drastically improved
I know this is an older vid Josh but I found it very informative. I've opted for the Brainwavz angled pads and a new headband cover for my ATH-WS1100is - whatever the hell Audio Technica chose to cover the foam with is flaking off already and I refuse to spend serious dollars on replacement parts for something that lasts for years on headphones from Beyerdynamic and others. Sennheiser seems to have settled on the same supplier - no doubt a lowballer from China who really couldnt give a crap about customer satisfaction over the longer term. How is it that my old Koss Portapros are still holding together while more expensive cans literally decompose in front of you ? Shameful QC, Thanks for the video.
Oh man. I'd like to reduce a little of high, and let some of the bass escape, reduce the boom on my Sony's. But I can't use fabrics, I tried something referred as "sport fabric" and "Ice Silk" and a few others I don't know the naming. So far they were all itchy, irritating or got hotter than the Pu Leather I have and genuine leather I've used. Any chance there's one that have airy,material on the whole pad and leather where it touch my skin? Maybe try perforated leather? I also haven't tried full velour, but pretty sure it'll make me hotter. Contrary to what everyone says about hot climate. I live in hot and humid climate. And run hot, produce lot of heat. And fuzzy materials, like velvet or fur, trap that heat. The silk ones are cool to the touch. But when I put them on, very quickly get heated up because of me. My protein leather ones, (the ones that came with my Sony's) don't feel cool normally, but they regulate the temperature better. They get warm but never bothersome. I have wear them for hours. Maybe I've just had very bad luck with the fabric ones I've tried. I mean, I've used polyester that was incredibly uncomfortable, while also some of my most comfortable clothes are or have polyester. Just like porous scruffy cotton vs smooth soft cotton. I think I'm gonna give Brainwavz perforated a chance.
Dekoni pads are really nice but the adhesive they use is really weak and came apart after like 3 months... twice. Ended up going Brainwavz and after a year, they still feel nice.
Hi Joshua, thanks for this informative video. I hv sennheiser HD450BT, the quality is good m, but poor pads cushion. Can you suggest me the best pads replacement for it? Thanks
I got the HE4XX a couple of months ago, I love the sound but the stock pads get a bit sweaty. So I bought some suede zmf ori pads for them. I think it's lambskin suede because it's so soft. Turns out I'm not sure I like the change in sound. The ori pads took the edge off the highs, darkened the sound a bit and I didn't notice any increase in bass, just some slight muddiness. Also the ori pads hold the drivers slightly further from your ears which I'm sure affects clarity. I've actually put the stock pads back on. The ori pads can be for gaming because they're more comfortable over time.
@@intoitreviews glad to hear this, I just joined the drop on massdrop for them. I love the he4xx, but I hate velour, I can't stand dust on pads,the feel of velour just isn't comfortable, and the original pads are more stiff then I'd like. Sound signature is great, so I want to keep that with the he4xx
Will the Brainwavz Hybrid Memory Foam Earpad fit the senheiser pxc 550? Im looking for something that is a little more roomy than the stock pads, but that wont change the sound in a negative way. Great video btw!
I got 6 mins into the video but I have to go in a minute, also checked out the description but in the beginning of the video and you talked about the cosmos pads? I am just a gamer looking for replacement pads for my Sennheiser pc 350 SE, do they have a oval shape pad that would fit them? The original pads for PC 350 SE replacement are like 30 bucks but they are the cheapest things I have ever seen they just tear and fall apart so easy. The headband even tore from just normal use no abusing just putting it on and off I think its just some pleather that is super thin so I really just want to replace them. I just like how you recommended the cosmos pads if they have a pad that will fit my headset I will gladly order them today or if you have another recommendation that be great, I mean for $10 those cosmos pads look like a steal. Anyways I really have to go so I will have to come back later and see the rest of the video or your recommendations. I hope you have a great day and I am glad I found this video!
Hey. I just got myself the brainwavs XL perforated leather for my dt1990 and they sound very close to the balanced pads but give a 25 percent bigger soundstage than the balanced pads too. Once you have tried these you will realise your search for pads will ha e come to an end. These are the ones you will thank me later.
It would be arrogant to think dekoni could improve the sound by replacing the pads as if after all the trouble of perfecting headphones since 1924, Beyerdynamic simply overlooked putting effort into good sounding pads. I bought them and they sound closed and booming and downright awful compared to the balanced pads that come standard on these headphones. Hope others can learn from my mistake.
Yeah I have the stock pads on my 6xx and their quite comfy, specially for when it gets warmer. Always hated heat build on leather type material. Only thing I had to get used to was the clamp force, was very different to what I was used to but I found you just gotta wear them in.
nice video. i would buy a pair of DEKONI pads for my beyerdynamic custom studio pro headphones (are likes dt770) . any suggestion for music and movie application? the stocks pads are uncomfortable :(
So can someone help me.. I didnt understand anything. I have audio technicas ath m50x's and I want to get replacement pads for competitive gaming. What should I go for?
I recently just got a pair of Sennheiser HD 4.50 BTNC headphones. I really love the sound because I haven't tried anything as high quality before. I do have one problem though, the earpads are way to tight and it feels like a vice on my head. Is there any earpads that would resolve this issue to make it more comfortable to where them for long sessions?
Stay away from Dekoni. Thickness of the pads is part of the headphones sound and design, and they are way too thick. I got a pair recently for my HD 800's, the impact on the sound was massive. Way harsher in the highs, thinner low end, and I had to push the volume 2 dB in order to get the same loudness I was getting because obviously they push the speaker further away from your ear. I mix a lot with those headphones and know them really well, the pads were removed 30 seconds after listening, it was so obvious. They can be a pain to remove btw.
Bass in competitive gaming? I'd say it's the other way round. Steps are much more important, even most gun sounds are more treble than bass. You want balanced headphones for competitive gaming.
I enjoy his stage presence, hand movement presentation. After seeing bad hand movements in some people, I appreciate someone who knows how to properly use gestures.
Don't be sorry, it was a very good video. I would say 10 times better than what Zeos made in his video about pads. BTW the longer I compare Zeos videos to other audio TH-camrs like yourself the more I came to a conclusion that while he is entertaining his videos are the worst in terms of actual information on sound signature. And you are one of the better source in that department so keep up the good work :)
I watch both and I still trust Zeos. If you need a quick idea of whether a pair headphones is good you just watch a bit of a Z review and then compare and contrast with other videos. Also if you have a pair of analytical headphones you can use the sound demos Z provides to compare them. Is it as good as being there with the headphones on your head? No, of course not but you can pick out characteristics of a headphone.
I'm a bit late to the party, but I can't help but point out that Joshua Valour should clearly recommend velour. (damn, I'm corny... yet despite stopping myself from hitting "comment" for the last 15 minutes, I'm doing it anyways).
You could hardly have edited this any tighter. I declare I could not detect any pause between statements. So unnatural so I stopped watching at 4:29. Don't care how useful but 15 odd minutes of continuous speech is just too much. Don't know what your rush was.
I saw your video before buying new pads for my edifier w820bt and I've chosen more thick hybrid ones (pu leather and velour) based on your opinion. Dude, it's exaclty as you described. Bass, comfort, less high peaks (for me this is awesome) and A LOT of details. It has totally changed the headphone sound. My experience with it is even better. Now I'm listening everything that I like again hahaha. Thanks a lot for the great content.
One thing you didn't mention on comfort is that for some headphones getting more depth on the pad can save a headphone from crushing your ears, especially if you're somebody with a bigger head (and therefore ears) or more sticky out ears
Hi guys. What pads do you recommend for Hifiman HE-500? I use thease velour box pads. Leather sounds worse for me. I would like them to be more comfortable and have good detail.
My DT770 Pro 80 ohm headphones are a bit uncomfortable on my right ear (?!) probably because I wear glasses. Are there any pads you guys would recommend?
How do different leathers compare in sound and comfort? What sort of animals are leather made from? I know some are sheepskin but what else? I would assume deer but I'd like that confirmed. I used to work in a leather wearhouse so I am a bit of a leather nerd.
What pads would you recommend for HD58X? I was considering Fenestrated Sheepskin vs Skeepskin vs. Hybrid. Looking at Dekoni mostly. I'm not really into the velour pads that come with them... they remind me of a car from the 1990's. I really wish there was a fenestrated inside, fenestrated ear-side, regular sheepskin outside, but alas there there doesn't seem to be...
@@intoitreviews Yesss I got the sheepskin for my 58X's too (although the cheaper NewFantasia one on Amazon) and i definitely also think it helped the sound a lot. But the fenestrated sounded a lot different? How?
Anyone have recommendations for pad swap on HE4XX? I tend to like vocals with still an enjoyable amount of bass. Was thinking of getting a sheepskin pad for them cause I like the feeling of the material in general but wonder how the different pads would affect the sound.
People are changing stock he4xx pads for ori lambskin or ori lambskin perforated. I personally have no knowledge about either of these yet but I'm probably gonna get the lambskin ori perforated. Then I could tell something but for now you can search the web for that info 😉
Calling the brainwavz "durable" is deceptive, you say their PU leather lasted you years but didn't mention how often you wear them. You can check the amazon reviews to see plenty of people where the PU leather starts to peel after a year. I wore mine daily and they started peeling and flaking after a year.
Hi Josh great interesting video, I been changing pads on my Senn hd660s1, and 6xx, I already fitted custom cans bass mod and fitted velour 1.25” thick pads on my 6xx, and thicker pads in 660s1and does sound a bit more bass, it’s interesting that I have old hd575 and that had 1.25” thick pads but as you know Senn are 3/4” pads as standard now .the pads I have already fitted made my headphones even more comfortable over the standard that sennheiser supplied. Regards mark
The oval hybrid brainwavz turned my 450BTs from headphones I couldn’t wear for more than an hour due to fatigue to the most comfortable Bluetooth headphones I own. Thanks for the video you’re a life saver!
I have trouble understanding why people spend so much time on headphones and IEMs unless they travel a lot. I prefer a small space converted into a listening room with a 5.1 system from Yamaha. If you're willing to do the work yourself, that's cheaper than a bunch of these phones 🤷♀
I want as flat of a sound signal as possible. I'm a producer so when mixing you want to have the sound as flat as possible so that it sounds good on any devise basically. What is the best option here? great job on the vid btw
nice video, I have my monitor headphones which obviously use all leather pads. These are great at isolation which often I need in my house while gaming or need concentration. When I really want detail and have a quiet area to listen to music then I go velour. They seem to have the most natural sonic character with no manipulation to the original song, but do require a very quiet room to fully appreciate.
Why? Lol. Z is great and has done this for a long time, he earned his subscribers. These two are both different and both great, whats wrong with variety and entertainment?
You can't really compare them, they make totally different kind of content. We have two really cool but very different channels. Also Z has been in the game a lot longer
I need to get full leather since all the breathable pads do in my weather is allow sweat to be absorbed into the pads and not actually "vent" the heat away.
Thanks a bunch for the video, this was really great. By far the most helpful explanation I've seen of how different materials affect sound signature. I'd be curious to see how the new Brainwavz Sheepskin Suede pads compare.
Thanks for the video, this was super informative. I bought perforated leather thinking it would be the middle ground of the bassy full leather and the airy velour.... I was wrong. The perforated leather lost all the crisp details I was use to hearing on my Audio-Technica ADG1X. Your explanation was an exact match to my situation. I'm going to try full leather next, and if that fails, I'll just stick with velour.
@@mrplumpkin_x3c The full leather did lose some of the airy details, but gave a little more bass. I really like the look and feel of blue full leather on my blue ADG1x, so I accepted the compromise. I just surprised by how bad the perforated leather killed the details in the sound.
Love my combination of ZMF Ori Hybrids on the TH900mk2 (with Dekoni attenuation rings). They take out that little pinch of highs which were too much for me in longer listening sessions. Bass got, i dont know how to say it but just more Balanced. Feels like the V-Shape got a little bit flattened but without losing the TH900's bass abilities and also improves it. Also they are 1000x more comfortable than stock pads :)
Just more about comfort TBH. I really liked the feel of the leather I had before upgrading to the 1990s. The DT 1990's earpads sound great (I use the bass boosting velour ear pads) but just aren't as comfortable as leather earpads. I think I'm leaning towards the Brainwavz Angled Sheepskin. Thoughts on how it might change the DT 1990s (w/ bass velour ear pads) sound signature? Also, do you think those would be more comfortable than the velour ear pads?
Awesome, thanks! I'm assuming the Angled sheepskin Brainwavz fit your DT 1990s? Only reason I ask is because the measurements listed on their site don't match up to be compatible (according to them, the measurements need to be off by only +/- 2 mm)
I don't think I will go for leather pad as it's gonna be sweaty, sitting indoor in 30C. Currently use original pads on Philips Fideliop X2HR, I have two, one for pc one for mobile. I bought it as I was satisfied with them. but now after 2 years I think the pads are worn, inside of the pad cover is ripping apart, it has a rubbery pal sticky material there, that's what is failing. So I think I will go for similar pads. I've had garbage gaming head phones with pleather before, they were uncomfortable as they got that wet, sticky sweat feeling, and pleather failed making it fall black pleather everywhere. Maybe these products are more durable.
Hi what kind for pad material do you recommend for high temperatures, to reduce sweating? Do you have experience with pads made from real leather or sheepskin? Thanks.
@@scuba453 not tried other than stock pads, but those were nice, but if it's hot and I get sweaty soaked in sweat I will get soaked ears no matter what. But I think stock ones won't be as sticky. But I need to order some pads. 🤔
Those do not accept any other pads at all, they need your ear to be riiiiight up on the driver with a very solid seal in order to have any bass at all.
Thanks, I'm looking for pads for my Koss pro4aa. I love the sound signature with a nice even and extended bass but the pads are very hot and my ears actually touch the inner screen. I can't wear them for more than an hour usually. I was going to get the velour but this video convinced me to try the hybrid instead since I don't want the bass absorbed. The Bainwaves are on sale now and the Dekoni are too expensive for me to put on a $75 headphone. Good info.
I bought some 16 dollar pleather replacement pads to replace my Itchy X2HR velour pads and they sound just as good as the stock pads as best I can tell .
There's this no name pad that I absolutely love. Standard oval shape but its so deep that it doesn't let the tip of my ear touch the headphone. Its also really cheap so you can buy them by the droves. Downside is because they're cheap, the material pleather easily sheds off overtime. Like, maybe half a year or something. I would say that the back end is two inches, the front is an inch. I use them on my HE400i, stretching them out so that they're round. I would like to find a similar earpad but rather than pleather, its some lasting material.
How does AROUND EAR pads fit? I am new to over ear headphones. My new AKG K361 doesn`t fit the way I thought. I believed that in this kind of headphones the ear is totally IN the earpad cup, but my ears touch the inner walls of the pads and I think even the "driver" back panel in the ear cup. Is this normal or am I having a wrong fit betweeen my ears and the headphones? I have searched for bigger cup earpad ( wider and taller inner dimesions and deeper) and I have only found the Brainwavz earpdas which aren`t much bigger ( a bt wider, same heght and supossedly a bit deeper, although that counld change of the foam is not sturdy enough). Any help would be appreciated.
With ATH M50S my bluetooths Brainwavs destroy the bass, I hate them Gonna try getting the Dekoni sheepskins and valours on guitar center for the M50Xs and are made to keep that bass in unlike the audio pros valour pads on Amazon for 35 overpriced bucks that suck Also if you're talking beyerdynamic cans they must you know they mostly use electrostatic drivers NOT dynamic drivers, so duh you're sorta not making much sense from my perspective
Anyone got experience with hybrid memory foam pads? So, perforated pleather inside, velour on the face, pleather on the outside, but inside it's memory foam
I should have watched this earlier. Just bought a velour brainwavz for my ath-m40x. It makes my cans sounded way less bassy, which i didn't like it :'). Luckily i have a gaming headphone, and it makes my super bassy gaming headphone into more enjoyable bass in my honest opinion.
Hi Joshua Can you please guide me, where I can buy velour earpads for the Hfiman Ananda? I have purchased one velour pair from Dekoni for my Sony WH1000 XM2. It has upgraded the wearing and listening experience impressively. Unfortunately Dekoni doesn't seem to be making earpads for headphones like Ananda of Ariya. Do you happen to know of any other manufacturers making these kind of earpads for the Ananda?. What is your opinion and suggestion on the same?
My older 600 "velour" pads get gunked up from absorbing sweat, oils & stuff off my face. Got to try leather pads for possibly easier cleaning. Am I the only one that has this problem?
Hi. I need some help bud. My current earpads has inside dimension of 40mm x 60mm and outside dimension of 80 mm x 104 mm. And Im planning to replace it with earpads that are 5 to 10 mm bigger than my current pads. Will it still work?
Hi. I need some help bud. My current earpads has inside dimension of 40mm x 60mm and outside dimension of 80 mm x 104 mm. And Im planning to replace it with earpads that are 5 to 10 mm bigger than my current pads. Will it still work?
Going back in time to this video, it's crazy to see how much you've improved your editing and general quality. The audio and visuals were still pretty nice, though.
Great video. Very informative.
Don't apologize for the longer content. A lot of us enjoy info packed vids no matter the length.
Agreed - I’d always prefer a detailed review with time stamps (we can always watch on a faster speed if pressed for time). So long as everything you put in the script is relevant and important to pass on, it’s worth sharing and that’s what we’re here for.
Pad depth - 1:06
Why change pads? - 3:18
Material sounds - 5:00
Comfort - 9:50
Build and Brands - 11:10
Regarding the depth of pads and its affect on bass, I had always assumed that deeper would provide more surface area to reinforce/amplify the bass, but with my HD650's, for example, I have found that bass increases (and I think treble actually decreases) as the pads get older and more compressed...so less deep. Also, I have experienced similar when I have tried pushing headphones onto my head, so that the drivers are nearer my ears. I know with closed backs this is sometimes because the seal improves, but I've also found it the case with already well sealed closed backs and with open backs. Having said all this, a slightly deeper/bigger set of pads with my K371's did increase bass.
You can make pads really cheaply if you know how to use a sewing machine and get whatever material fits your preference like I made super plush soft leather ear pads out of a old welding jacket and purple foam for the cushion on the inside
Hey guys. The hybrid Hifiman velour/microfiber base with leather on the outside is actually quite scratchy on your face compared to leather/pleather. The super soft Alcantara that my HD800 has is a super duper soft comfortable material. Hope this helps someone. Sadly there are no full leather or Alcantera pad replacements for the large yolk Arya/Ananda/etc shape so far including none from Dekoni so far as of Aug 2020 I believe
Re Brainwavz XL fitted to AKG K5500 - likes: readily available, easy to fit, comfortable, good external sound exclusion. Dislikes: thicker than the originals. This moves the drivers further away from the ears and this affects the sound more than you might expect. Test by pressing the back of the headphones with your fingers which move the drivers closer to your ears. The sound changes a lot - warmer and more engaging to my ears, although the sound otherwise is acceptable. If AKG make the originals available again I will buy them, but these will do in the meantime.
A while ago I put ZMF lambskin pads and the headband on my logitech g933 and it worked a charm. Not only are they extremely comfortable but the sound got cupped in and believe it or not the sound quality drastically improved
I know this is an older vid Josh but I found it very informative. I've opted for the Brainwavz angled pads and a new headband cover for my ATH-WS1100is - whatever the hell Audio Technica chose to cover the foam with is flaking off already and I refuse to spend serious dollars on replacement parts for something that lasts for years on headphones from Beyerdynamic and others. Sennheiser seems to have settled on the same supplier - no doubt a lowballer from China who really couldnt give a crap about customer satisfaction over the longer term. How is it that my old Koss Portapros are still holding together while more expensive cans literally decompose in front of you ? Shameful QC,
Thanks for the video.
Oh man. I'd like to reduce a little of high, and let some of the bass escape, reduce the boom on my Sony's. But I can't use fabrics, I tried something referred as "sport fabric" and "Ice Silk" and a few others I don't know the naming. So far they were all itchy, irritating or got hotter than the Pu Leather I have and genuine leather I've used. Any chance there's one that have airy,material on the whole pad and leather where it touch my skin? Maybe try perforated leather? I also haven't tried full velour, but pretty sure it'll make me hotter. Contrary to what everyone says about hot climate. I live in hot and humid climate. And run hot, produce lot of heat. And fuzzy materials, like velvet or fur, trap that heat. The silk ones are cool to the touch. But when I put them on, very quickly get heated up because of me. My protein leather ones, (the ones that came with my Sony's) don't feel cool normally, but they regulate the temperature better. They get warm but never bothersome. I have wear them for hours.
Maybe I've just had very bad luck with the fabric ones I've tried. I mean, I've used polyester that was incredibly uncomfortable, while also some of my most comfortable clothes are or have polyester. Just like porous scruffy cotton vs smooth soft cotton.
I think I'm gonna give Brainwavz perforated a chance.
Dekoni pads are really nice but the adhesive they use is really weak and came apart after like 3 months... twice. Ended up going Brainwavz and after a year, they still feel nice.
Hi Joshua, thanks for this informative video. I hv sennheiser HD450BT, the quality is good m, but poor pads cushion. Can you suggest me the best pads replacement for it? Thanks
13:28 Ear pads on at least the LCD2C is using adhesive to hold them on and that is why you got that well adhesive there.
well duh,
But, they COULD have crapped out in that area and the plastic ring underneath, but, didn't. That was my point.
This is the video i neaded and wanted i just subscribed thank you for this. Now a video about different eartips for iems.
I got the HE4XX a couple of months ago, I love the sound but the stock pads get a bit sweaty. So I bought some suede zmf ori pads for them. I think it's lambskin suede because it's so soft. Turns out I'm not sure I like the change in sound. The ori pads took the edge off the highs, darkened the sound a bit and I didn't notice any increase in bass, just some slight muddiness. Also the ori pads hold the drivers slightly further from your ears which I'm sure affects clarity. I've actually put the stock pads back on. The ori pads can be for gaming because they're more comfortable over time.
I just switched to fenestrated angled pads for my he4xx, sound signature is nearly identical to the stock. Maybe slightly better imo.
Try hybrid pads or tune the sound with an equalizer
I swap between dekoni fenestrated and sheepskin. The later is more relaxed, but both are closer to your head than the ZMF pads.
@@intoitreviews glad to hear this, I just joined the drop on massdrop for them. I love the he4xx, but I hate velour, I can't stand dust on pads,the feel of velour just isn't comfortable, and the original pads are more stiff then I'd like. Sound signature is great, so I want to keep that with the he4xx
I'm eager to see third party pads for my Airpods Max. I would like to have a little bit more focus on the mids and a wider sound stage.
I've heard if you step on them a couple times it widens the soundstage, but you might struggle to fit them in your ear
Will the Brainwavz Hybrid Memory Foam Earpad fit the senheiser pxc 550? Im looking for something that is a little more roomy than the stock pads, but that wont change the sound in a negative way. Great video btw!
I got 6 mins into the video but I have to go in a minute, also checked out the description but in the beginning of the video and you talked about the cosmos pads? I am just a gamer looking for replacement pads for my Sennheiser pc 350 SE, do they have a oval shape pad that would fit them? The original pads for PC 350 SE replacement are like 30 bucks but they are the cheapest things I have ever seen they just tear and fall apart so easy. The headband even tore from just normal use no abusing just putting it on and off I think its just some pleather that is super thin so I really just want to replace them. I just like how you recommended the cosmos pads if they have a pad that will fit my headset I will gladly order them today or if you have another recommendation that be great, I mean for $10 those cosmos pads look like a steal. Anyways I really have to go so I will have to come back later and see the rest of the video or your recommendations. I hope you have a great day and I am glad I found this video!
Which material should i get if i want the most comfort and high bass?
I want to buy Dekoni earpads for my DT990 Pro 250Ohms because the stock earpads get really flat and uncomfortable after a few months.
Any suggestions?
Hey. I just got myself the brainwavs XL perforated leather for my dt1990 and they sound very close to the balanced pads but give a 25 percent bigger soundstage than the balanced pads too. Once you have tried these you will realise your search for pads will ha e come to an end. These are the ones you will thank me later.
Thank you very much very usefull information😊
Where can i buy pads for Senn Orpheus ?
I really need a good durable pad for bass for my jvc ha sz2000's
It would be arrogant to think dekoni could improve the sound by replacing the pads as if after all the trouble of perfecting headphones since 1924, Beyerdynamic simply overlooked putting effort into good sounding pads. I bought them and they sound closed and booming and downright awful compared to the balanced pads that come standard on these headphones. Hope others can learn from my mistake.
So which pads would you recommend for the hd 650 for that extra bass performance?
That was purely for example. I don't really recommend changing them.
But, dekoni does have HD650 pads. I would check them out if you are interested.
what type of earpad would you recommend for an ATH-m50x?
Brainwavz angled sheepskin. Best pad I ever tried on that headphone. Period.
@leebonakiss Did you end up buying these? Any complaints or any noticeable changes to sound?
@@JoshuaValour Do you recommend these on the m40x also?
My hd6xx finally arrived. I don't mind the pads for them to much.
Stefano_pena Personally, I don’t recommend changing the pads. They seem to be the best for that headphone.
Joshua Valour that's what everyone seems to be saying which is great.
Yeah I have the stock pads on my 6xx and their quite comfy, specially for when it gets warmer. Always hated heat build on leather type material. Only thing I had to get used to was the clamp force, was very different to what I was used to but I found you just gotta wear them in.
noon6 im 2 days in and the clamp force is almost gone
Can the Tribit Xfree Go be modified with new ear pads?
nice video. i would buy a pair of DEKONI pads for my beyerdynamic custom studio pro headphones (are likes dt770) . any suggestion for music and movie application? the stocks pads are uncomfortable :(
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up again? any suggestion? xD
So can someone help me.. I didnt understand anything. I have audio technicas ath m50x's and I want to get replacement pads for competitive gaming. What should I go for?
Brainwavs velour or just buy Sennheiser HD 58x Jubilee
for T5p, which pad is best to maintain bass rumble and reduce highs? fenestrated or hybrid?
Hybrid. Haven't tried with t5P's but hybrid tend to do this better.
Excellent!
Do you know of a cheap generic pad that will fit comms headsets?
Why there is no aftermarket pad for Sony Z1R?
Will a 100mm earpad fit 90mm headphone?
I recently just got a pair of Sennheiser HD 4.50 BTNC headphones. I really love the sound because I haven't tried anything as high quality before. I do have one problem though, the earpads are way to tight and it feels like a vice on my head. Is there any earpads that would resolve this issue to make it more comfortable to where them for long sessions?
Velour
@@iideltapureii3620 thanks!
@@Alexander-pq2pr 👍
Ok , dear comment section , please recommend me a good pad for m50x (I use these for commuting and have a hd700 back home).
Brainwave prostock hybrid for m40x/m50x, as well as zmf cowhide (m40x), zmf suede (m50x), dekoni has specific pads for m50x (faux leather/suede)
@@sperin98 thnx bro this helped me over some confusion.
Stay away from Dekoni. Thickness of the pads is part of the headphones sound and design, and they are way too thick. I got a pair recently for my HD 800's, the impact on the sound was massive. Way harsher in the highs, thinner low end, and I had to push the volume 2 dB in order to get the same loudness I was getting because obviously they push the speaker further away from your ear. I mix a lot with those headphones and know them really well, the pads were removed 30 seconds after listening, it was so obvious. They can be a pain to remove btw.
Everyone’s sound is different. Keep it moving 😆
Bass in competitive gaming? I'd say it's the other way round. Steps are much more important, even most gun sounds are more treble than bass. You want balanced headphones for competitive gaming.
I think this video needs more hand movement
I enjoy his stage presence, hand movement presentation. After seeing bad hand movements in some people, I appreciate someone who knows how to properly use gestures.
You doomed me, know i can't unsee he overuse hand movement :(
Gesticulation.
I didn't even notice his hand movements.
So it is not annoying
LOL
Don't be sorry, it was a very good video. I would say 10 times better than what Zeos made in his video about pads. BTW the longer I compare Zeos videos to other audio TH-camrs like yourself the more I came to a conclusion that while he is entertaining his videos are the worst in terms of actual information on sound signature. And you are one of the better source in that department so keep up the good work :)
Stanisław Szczypuła I politely disagree :)
As a general consumer I appreciate their differences as it gives me a wide scope on the products they both cover
Zeos is basically "fuck those, get these", or "fuck these"
I watch both and I still trust Zeos. If you need a quick idea of whether a pair headphones is good you just watch a bit of a Z review and then compare and contrast with other videos. Also if you have a pair of analytical headphones you can use the sound demos Z provides to compare them. Is it as good as being there with the headphones on your head? No, of course not but you can pick out characteristics of a headphone.
His audio demos suck ass so I automatically don't care about what he blabbers about
I really like the intro, its clean a simple but still gives a lot of information about your channel
Thanks Nick!
I'm a bit late to the party, but I can't help but point out that Joshua Valour should clearly recommend velour.
(damn, I'm corny... yet despite stopping myself from hitting "comment" for the last 15 minutes, I'm doing it anyways).
You have no idea how long I've been saying that in my head :D
Didn’t know Oliver Queen was an audiophile 😂 quality content though, I appreciate it.
@Ronnie Fletcher stop existing
@@realtedkaczynski
You're talking to a bot,
which is sad.
@@wale9d Guess I did not notice, but why the mean comment?
@@realtedkaczynski
That wasn't meant to upset you, just showing how sad it is that these bots are on TH-cam now.
I apologize
@@wale9d No worries :D
I totally agree, these bots have started popping up all over the place since not too long ago!
Thoughts on sheepskin vs hybrid pads on the ATH M40X
You could hardly have edited this any tighter. I declare I could not detect any pause between statements. So unnatural so I stopped watching at 4:29. Don't care how useful but 15 odd minutes of continuous speech is just too much. Don't know what your rush was.
I just went on an ear pad shopping spree. Thanks, Joshua!
I saw your video before buying new pads for my edifier w820bt and I've chosen more thick hybrid ones (pu leather and velour) based on your opinion. Dude, it's exaclty as you described. Bass, comfort, less high peaks (for me this is awesome) and A LOT of details. It has totally changed the headphone sound. My experience with it is even better. Now I'm listening everything that I like again hahaha. Thanks a lot for the great content.
So which pads would you recommend for the HD 6xx for that best sound performance
One thing you didn't mention on comfort is that for some headphones getting more depth on the pad can save a headphone from crushing your ears, especially if you're somebody with a bigger head (and therefore ears) or more sticky out ears
Hi guys. What pads do you recommend for Hifiman HE-500? I use thease velour box pads. Leather sounds worse for me. I would like them to be more comfortable and have good detail.
what pads would you recommend for Fidelio X2HR? aim is to keep similar sound signature and correct some weaknesses.
My DT770 Pro 80 ohm headphones are a bit uncomfortable on my right ear (?!) probably because I wear glasses. Are there any pads you guys would recommend?
I've put thicker earpads on my dt770 and they sound better and more comfortable
How do different leathers compare in sound and comfort? What sort of animals are leather made from? I know some are sheepskin but what else? I would assume deer but I'd like that confirmed. I used to work in a leather wearhouse so I am a bit of a leather nerd.
What pads would you recommend for HD58X? I was considering Fenestrated Sheepskin vs Skeepskin vs. Hybrid. Looking at Dekoni mostly. I'm not really into the velour pads that come with them... they remind me of a car from the 1990's. I really wish there was a fenestrated inside, fenestrated ear-side, regular sheepskin outside, but alas there there doesn't seem to be...
I went through them all... I like elite sheepskin best... fenestrated was awful for 58x.
@@intoitreviews Yesss I got the sheepskin for my 58X's too (although the cheaper NewFantasia one on Amazon) and i definitely also think it helped the sound a lot. But the fenestrated sounded a lot different? How?
Anyone have recommendations for pad swap on HE4XX?
I tend to like vocals with still an enjoyable amount of bass. Was thinking of getting a sheepskin pad for them cause I like the feeling of the material in general but wonder how the different pads would affect the sound.
People are changing stock he4xx pads for ori lambskin or ori lambskin perforated. I personally have no knowledge about either of these yet but I'm probably gonna get the lambskin ori perforated. Then I could tell something but for now you can search the web for that info 😉
Just ordered dekoni hybrids for my x00 eb. Hope they increased the comfort without changing the sound sig much.
may i have your review on the dekoni pad?
Hey Joshua. Cool vid bro. What can I use for the best bass production for the Superlux 668 headphones.
Do u think hd660s benefit from dekoni sheepskin (or any of dekoni pads) ? Or just waste my money ?
Bobby Brian wondering the same thing. Z mentioned them in his Hd660s review but I didn't hear anything else about them.
Calling the brainwavz "durable" is deceptive, you say their PU leather lasted you years but didn't mention how often you wear them. You can check the amazon reviews to see plenty of people where the PU leather starts to peel after a year. I wore mine daily and they started peeling and flaking after a year.
Hi Josh great interesting video, I been changing pads on my Senn hd660s1, and 6xx, I already fitted custom cans bass mod and fitted velour 1.25” thick pads on my 6xx, and thicker pads in 660s1and does sound a bit more bass, it’s interesting that I have old hd575 and that had 1.25” thick pads but as you know Senn are 3/4” pads as standard now .the pads I have already fitted made my headphones even more comfortable over the standard that sennheiser supplied. Regards mark
The oval hybrid brainwavz turned my 450BTs from headphones I couldn’t wear for more than an hour due to fatigue to the most comfortable Bluetooth headphones I own. Thanks for the video you’re a life saver!
I have trouble understanding why people spend so much time on headphones and IEMs unless they travel a lot. I prefer a small space converted into a listening room with a 5.1 system from Yamaha. If you're willing to do the work yourself, that's cheaper than a bunch of these phones 🤷♀
I want as flat of a sound signal as possible. I'm a producer so when mixing you want to have the sound as flat as possible so that it sounds good on any devise basically. What is the best option here?
great job on the vid btw
nice video, I have my monitor headphones which obviously use all leather pads. These are great at isolation which often I need in my house while gaming or need concentration. When I really want detail and have a quiet area to listen to music then I go velour. They seem to have the most natural sonic character with no manipulation to the original song, but do require a very quiet room to fully appreciate.
Really helpful guide. Didn't know that there could be slight sound differences depending on the earpad you choose.
Just ordered Yaxi pads for my HD58x's based on people saying they're slightly better than dekoni ones
I did try tampons instead of pads once. It was cleaner and more convenient, but I definitely couldn’t hear the music as well…
Zeos and Josh deserve to have the number of their subscribers switched.
Why? Lol. Z is great and has done this for a long time, he earned his subscribers. These two are both different and both great, whats wrong with variety and entertainment?
You can't really compare them, they make totally different kind of content. We have two really cool but very different channels. Also Z has been in the game a lot longer
WAHt which game has deep bass xD ., imma just play with my studio monitors lol .
I need to get full leather since all the breathable pads do in my weather is allow sweat to be absorbed into the pads and not actually "vent" the heat away.
Thanks a bunch for the video, this was really great. By far the most helpful explanation I've seen of how different materials affect sound signature. I'd be curious to see how the new Brainwavz Sheepskin Suede pads compare.
I have DT770. Which one to use ?
Thanks for the video, this was super informative. I bought perforated leather thinking it would be the middle ground of the bassy full leather and the airy velour.... I was wrong. The perforated leather lost all the crisp details I was use to hearing on my Audio-Technica ADG1X. Your explanation was an exact match to my situation. I'm going to try full leather next, and if that fails, I'll just stick with velour.
so how was the full leather if you got it, cause for me with my dt990s it was too bassy and lost the treble clarity which I didn't like
@@mrplumpkin_x3c The full leather did lose some of the airy details, but gave a little more bass. I really like the look and feel of blue full leather on my blue ADG1x, so I accepted the compromise. I just surprised by how bad the perforated leather killed the details in the sound.
@@JopTooFTW oh dang, thanks for the response, and yeah I might stick with the velour cups, not a fan of the leather lol.
How does this man do not have 1 million subscribers?
Love my combination of ZMF Ori Hybrids on the TH900mk2 (with Dekoni attenuation rings).
They take out that little pinch of highs which were too much for me in longer listening sessions.
Bass got, i dont know how to say it but just more Balanced.
Feels like the V-Shape got a little bit flattened but without losing the TH900's bass abilities and also improves it.
Also they are 1000x more comfortable than stock pads :)
Which one would you recommend for the DT 1990? (:
What sound signature are you looking for?
Just more about comfort TBH. I really liked the feel of the leather I had before upgrading to the 1990s. The DT 1990's earpads sound great (I use the bass boosting velour ear pads) but just aren't as comfortable as leather earpads. I think I'm leaning towards the Brainwavz Angled Sheepskin. Thoughts on how it might change the DT 1990s (w/ bass velour ear pads) sound signature? Also, do you think those would be more comfortable than the velour ear pads?
Also love your vids and reviews! Only thing I want are timestamps (:
Angled sheepskin is very comfortable.
I really liked the Hybrid Beyer pads from Dekoni too.
Awesome, thanks! I'm assuming the Angled sheepskin Brainwavz fit your DT 1990s? Only reason I ask is because the measurements listed on their site don't match up to be compatible (according to them, the measurements need to be off by only +/- 2 mm)
For me, it's the Brainwavz rounded XL pleather + memory foam for that bass transfer power
What pads should I get for hifi man Sundara
Best pads for athm40x please
Any suggestions to get more bass and crisp highs on 660s?
I wish Brainwavz would make an XL Round angled earpad in Microsuede. There's a hole in the market for this :(
Try modhouse ring for k7xx and you can use zmf ori pads
I don't think I will go for leather pad as it's gonna be sweaty, sitting indoor in 30C. Currently use original pads on Philips Fideliop X2HR, I have two, one for pc one for mobile.
I bought it as I was satisfied with them. but now after 2 years I think the pads are worn, inside of the pad cover is ripping apart, it has a rubbery pal sticky material there, that's what is failing.
So I think I will go for similar pads. I've had garbage gaming head phones with pleather before, they were uncomfortable as they got that wet, sticky sweat feeling, and pleather failed making it fall black pleather everywhere. Maybe these products are more durable.
Hi what kind for pad material do you recommend for high temperatures, to reduce sweating? Do you have experience with pads made from real leather or sheepskin? Thanks.
@@scuba453 not tried other than stock pads, but those were nice, but if it's hot and I get sweaty soaked in sweat I will get soaked ears no matter what. But I think stock ones won't be as sticky. But I need to order some pads. 🤔
I tried velours on my AKG K553 II and boiii the bass vanished.
Those do not accept any other pads at all, they need your ear to be riiiiight up on the driver with a very solid seal in order to have any bass at all.
Thanks, I'm looking for pads for my Koss pro4aa. I love the sound signature with a nice even and extended bass but the pads are very hot and my ears actually touch the inner screen. I can't wear them for more than an hour usually. I was going to get the velour but this video convinced me to try the hybrid instead since I don't want the bass absorbed. The Bainwaves are on sale now and the Dekoni are too expensive for me to put on a $75 headphone.
Good info.
I bought some 16 dollar pleather replacement pads to replace my Itchy X2HR velour pads and they sound just as good as the stock pads as best I can tell .
There's this no name pad that I absolutely love. Standard oval shape but its so deep that it doesn't let the tip of my ear touch the headphone. Its also really cheap so you can buy them by the droves. Downside is because they're cheap, the material pleather easily sheds off overtime. Like, maybe half a year or something.
I would say that the back end is two inches, the front is an inch. I use them on my HE400i, stretching them out so that they're round. I would like to find a similar earpad but rather than pleather, its some lasting material.
How does AROUND EAR pads fit?
I am new to over ear headphones. My new AKG K361 doesn`t fit the way I thought. I believed that in this kind of headphones the ear is totally IN the earpad cup, but my ears touch the inner walls of the pads and I think even the "driver" back panel in the ear cup. Is this normal or am I having a wrong fit betweeen my ears and the headphones?
I have searched for bigger cup earpad ( wider and taller inner dimesions and deeper) and I have only found the Brainwavz earpdas which aren`t much bigger ( a bt wider, same heght and supossedly a bit deeper, although that counld change of the foam is not sturdy enough).
Any help would be appreciated.
With ATH M50S my bluetooths
Brainwavs destroy the bass, I hate them
Gonna try getting the Dekoni sheepskins and valours on guitar center for the M50Xs and are made to keep that bass in unlike the audio pros valour pads on Amazon for 35 overpriced bucks that suck
Also if you're talking beyerdynamic cans they must you know they mostly use electrostatic drivers NOT dynamic drivers, so duh you're sorta not making much sense from my perspective
Anyone got experience with hybrid memory foam pads? So, perforated pleather inside, velour on the face, pleather on the outside, but inside it's memory foam
I should have watched this earlier. Just bought a velour brainwavz for my ath-m40x. It makes my cans sounded way less bassy, which i didn't like it :'). Luckily i have a gaming headphone, and it makes my super bassy gaming headphone into more enjoyable bass in my honest opinion.
For the long video, solution is leather is the best 😂😂
from your experience would you recommend the hybrid pads for the DT1770's?
Hi Joshua
Can you please guide me, where I can buy velour earpads for the Hfiman Ananda?
I have purchased one velour pair from Dekoni for my Sony WH1000 XM2. It has upgraded the wearing and listening experience impressively. Unfortunately Dekoni doesn't seem to be making earpads for headphones like Ananda of Ariya. Do you happen to know of any other manufacturers making these kind of earpads for the Ananda?.
What is your opinion and suggestion on the same?
My older 600 "velour" pads get gunked up from absorbing sweat, oils & stuff off my face. Got to try leather pads for possibly easier cleaning. Am I the only one that has this problem?
Hi. I need some help bud. My current earpads has inside dimension of 40mm x 60mm and outside dimension of 80 mm x 104 mm. And Im planning to replace it with earpads that are 5 to 10 mm bigger than my current pads. Will it still work?
Hi. I need some help bud. My current earpads has inside dimension of 40mm x 60mm and outside dimension of 80 mm x 104 mm. And Im planning to replace it with earpads that are 5 to 10 mm bigger than my current pads. Will it still work?
Hi I have the NCredible AX1 headphones and the ear pads are currently striping. I was wondering if you had any recommendations?
Which ones would be best for QC35’s? I have to wear them all night (snoring partner). Can you recommend any ?
Going back in time to this video, it's crazy to see how much you've improved your editing and general quality. The audio and visuals were still pretty nice, though.
Question. They did no more make ear pads for MONSTER ELEMENTS HEADPHONES? I am looking all over and not find any where.