Agreed - I’d always prefer a detailed review with time stamps (we can always watch on a faster speed if pressed for time). So long as everything you put in the script is relevant and important to pass on, it’s worth sharing and that’s what we’re here for.
Don't be sorry, it was a very good video. I would say 10 times better than what Zeos made in his video about pads. BTW the longer I compare Zeos videos to other audio TH-camrs like yourself the more I came to a conclusion that while he is entertaining his videos are the worst in terms of actual information on sound signature. And you are one of the better source in that department so keep up the good work :)
I watch both and I still trust Zeos. If you need a quick idea of whether a pair headphones is good you just watch a bit of a Z review and then compare and contrast with other videos. Also if you have a pair of analytical headphones you can use the sound demos Z provides to compare them. Is it as good as being there with the headphones on your head? No, of course not but you can pick out characteristics of a headphone.
I saw your video before buying new pads for my edifier w820bt and I've chosen more thick hybrid ones (pu leather and velour) based on your opinion. Dude, it's exaclty as you described. Bass, comfort, less high peaks (for me this is awesome) and A LOT of details. It has totally changed the headphone sound. My experience with it is even better. Now I'm listening everything that I like again hahaha. Thanks a lot for the great content.
I enjoy his stage presence, hand movement presentation. After seeing bad hand movements in some people, I appreciate someone who knows how to properly use gestures.
The oval hybrid brainwavz turned my 450BTs from headphones I couldn’t wear for more than an hour due to fatigue to the most comfortable Bluetooth headphones I own. Thanks for the video you’re a life saver!
Regarding the depth of pads and its affect on bass, I had always assumed that deeper would provide more surface area to reinforce/amplify the bass, but with my HD650's, for example, I have found that bass increases (and I think treble actually decreases) as the pads get older and more compressed...so less deep. Also, I have experienced similar when I have tried pushing headphones onto my head, so that the drivers are nearer my ears. I know with closed backs this is sometimes because the seal improves, but I've also found it the case with already well sealed closed backs and with open backs. Having said all this, a slightly deeper/bigger set of pads with my K371's did increase bass.
You can make pads really cheaply if you know how to use a sewing machine and get whatever material fits your preference like I made super plush soft leather ear pads out of a old welding jacket and purple foam for the cushion on the inside
I'm a bit late to the party, but I can't help but point out that Joshua Valour should clearly recommend velour. (damn, I'm corny... yet despite stopping myself from hitting "comment" for the last 15 minutes, I'm doing it anyways).
nice video, I have my monitor headphones which obviously use all leather pads. These are great at isolation which often I need in my house while gaming or need concentration. When I really want detail and have a quiet area to listen to music then I go velour. They seem to have the most natural sonic character with no manipulation to the original song, but do require a very quiet room to fully appreciate.
One thing you didn't mention on comfort is that for some headphones getting more depth on the pad can save a headphone from crushing your ears, especially if you're somebody with a bigger head (and therefore ears) or more sticky out ears
Hey guys. The hybrid Hifiman velour/microfiber base with leather on the outside is actually quite scratchy on your face compared to leather/pleather. The super soft Alcantara that my HD800 has is a super duper soft comfortable material. Hope this helps someone. Sadly there are no full leather or Alcantera pad replacements for the large yolk Arya/Ananda/etc shape so far including none from Dekoni so far as of Aug 2020 I believe
Going back in time to this video, it's crazy to see how much you've improved your editing and general quality. The audio and visuals were still pretty nice, though.
Thanks for the video, this was super informative. I bought perforated leather thinking it would be the middle ground of the bassy full leather and the airy velour.... I was wrong. The perforated leather lost all the crisp details I was use to hearing on my Audio-Technica ADG1X. Your explanation was an exact match to my situation. I'm going to try full leather next, and if that fails, I'll just stick with velour.
@@mrplumpkin_x3c The full leather did lose some of the airy details, but gave a little more bass. I really like the look and feel of blue full leather on my blue ADG1x, so I accepted the compromise. I just surprised by how bad the perforated leather killed the details in the sound.
Re Brainwavz XL fitted to AKG K5500 - likes: readily available, easy to fit, comfortable, good external sound exclusion. Dislikes: thicker than the originals. This moves the drivers further away from the ears and this affects the sound more than you might expect. Test by pressing the back of the headphones with your fingers which move the drivers closer to your ears. The sound changes a lot - warmer and more engaging to my ears, although the sound otherwise is acceptable. If AKG make the originals available again I will buy them, but these will do in the meantime.
Love my combination of ZMF Ori Hybrids on the TH900mk2 (with Dekoni attenuation rings). They take out that little pinch of highs which were too much for me in longer listening sessions. Bass got, i dont know how to say it but just more Balanced. Feels like the V-Shape got a little bit flattened but without losing the TH900's bass abilities and also improves it. Also they are 1000x more comfortable than stock pads :)
A while ago I put ZMF lambskin pads and the headband on my logitech g933 and it worked a charm. Not only are they extremely comfortable but the sound got cupped in and believe it or not the sound quality drastically improved
Why? Lol. Z is great and has done this for a long time, he earned his subscribers. These two are both different and both great, whats wrong with variety and entertainment?
You can't really compare them, they make totally different kind of content. We have two really cool but very different channels. Also Z has been in the game a lot longer
I bought some 16 dollar pleather replacement pads to replace my Itchy X2HR velour pads and they sound just as good as the stock pads as best I can tell .
I know this is an older vid Josh but I found it very informative. I've opted for the Brainwavz angled pads and a new headband cover for my ATH-WS1100is - whatever the hell Audio Technica chose to cover the foam with is flaking off already and I refuse to spend serious dollars on replacement parts for something that lasts for years on headphones from Beyerdynamic and others. Sennheiser seems to have settled on the same supplier - no doubt a lowballer from China who really couldnt give a crap about customer satisfaction over the longer term. How is it that my old Koss Portapros are still holding together while more expensive cans literally decompose in front of you ? Shameful QC, Thanks for the video.
Listening to you because my new Meze 99 Noirs are extremely sibilant. Fyi, the audio EQ on your channel is top notch and you sound less sibilant on these than any other source I've tried. Great job with your recording and production.
Thanks a bunch for the video, this was really great. By far the most helpful explanation I've seen of how different materials affect sound signature. I'd be curious to see how the new Brainwavz Sheepskin Suede pads compare.
I simply LOVE my Dekoni elite hybrid sound signature with DT1990s.. From stock pads I definitely preffered the Analytical ones , I found the Balanced losing too much detail for my taste especially in the mids.. Now Elite velour is even better in the lows and creates amazing quality bass while keeping end emphazising the mids a bit more and even a tad the highs creating an amazing sound signature.. I'm definitely not the most knowledgeable person but I'm almost certain that the Elite Velour is the perfect match for the DT1990..
Dekoni pads are really nice but the adhesive they use is really weak and came apart after like 3 months... twice. Ended up going Brainwavz and after a year, they still feel nice.
I need to get full leather since all the breathable pads do in my weather is allow sweat to be absorbed into the pads and not actually "vent" the heat away.
Hi Joshua, thanks for this informative video. I hv sennheiser HD450BT, the quality is good m, but poor pads cushion. Can you suggest me the best pads replacement for it? Thanks
@@scuba453 Yeah i did find finally. Micro Suede is the best for warm countries. But do make sure you are buying a headphones which has third party cushion sellers
Hi guys. What pads do you recommend for Hifiman HE-500? I use thease velour box pads. Leather sounds worse for me. I would like them to be more comfortable and have good detail.
How do different leathers compare in sound and comfort? What sort of animals are leather made from? I know some are sheepskin but what else? I would assume deer but I'd like that confirmed. I used to work in a leather wearhouse so I am a bit of a leather nerd.
There's this no name pad that I absolutely love. Standard oval shape but its so deep that it doesn't let the tip of my ear touch the headphone. Its also really cheap so you can buy them by the droves. Downside is because they're cheap, the material pleather easily sheds off overtime. Like, maybe half a year or something. I would say that the back end is two inches, the front is an inch. I use them on my HE400i, stretching them out so that they're round. I would like to find a similar earpad but rather than pleather, its some lasting material.
I got the HE4XX a couple of months ago, I love the sound but the stock pads get a bit sweaty. So I bought some suede zmf ori pads for them. I think it's lambskin suede because it's so soft. Turns out I'm not sure I like the change in sound. The ori pads took the edge off the highs, darkened the sound a bit and I didn't notice any increase in bass, just some slight muddiness. Also the ori pads hold the drivers slightly further from your ears which I'm sure affects clarity. I've actually put the stock pads back on. The ori pads can be for gaming because they're more comfortable over time.
@@intoitreviews glad to hear this, I just joined the drop on massdrop for them. I love the he4xx, but I hate velour, I can't stand dust on pads,the feel of velour just isn't comfortable, and the original pads are more stiff then I'd like. Sound signature is great, so I want to keep that with the he4xx
Thanks, I'm looking for pads for my Koss pro4aa. I love the sound signature with a nice even and extended bass but the pads are very hot and my ears actually touch the inner screen. I can't wear them for more than an hour usually. I was going to get the velour but this video convinced me to try the hybrid instead since I don't want the bass absorbed. The Bainwaves are on sale now and the Dekoni are too expensive for me to put on a $75 headphone. Good info.
I want as flat of a sound signal as possible. I'm a producer so when mixing you want to have the sound as flat as possible so that it sounds good on any devise basically. What is the best option here? great job on the vid btw
Good stuff and something I've been hoping other people would've done or documented a long time ago. For the most part, I agree with your findings with the exception of the perforated leathers. From my experience, they tend to not decrease highs but increase clarity by reducing bass. However, this might be due to headphones I used (ad1000x, ad2000, w5000, argon mk3) and the make/brand (zmf auteur). I guess to further contribute to the conversation, I'll add my findings on other zmf types. Pleather (oval and eikons) tend to makes things more v-shaped, with the ovals having more violent (mid)bass. Suede (eikons) tend to increase and clean up bass while making highs less fatiguing. Cowhide (oval) follows suede sonic pattern but further warms up mids. The most interesting is sheepskin (universe) because I once had dekoni sheepskin th900. They follow your interpretation of how leathers affect sound, but the th900 pads muddied the mids a bit more. I'm really interested on what physical aspect of the pads led to this difference. If it's thickness of the sheepskin itself, then I fear the pad rabbit hole goes deeper than I thought it did.
TH900 is a very bassy headphone and I mean, have you seen the frequency response? If you add anything to contribute to more bass, I wouldn't be surprised to see the midrange go to shits and beyond.
WildStyle I think there's a misunderstanding. I wasn't referring to a th900 itself, but a pad dekoni specifies for the th900, but can be used on other headphones.
dekoni sheepskin Th900 pads on AD1000x, AD2000, W5000, and argon mk3. I expected the muddiness with the open models given that it went from a more open pad to a closed one. The changes in the w5000 are a bit more confusing given that the dekoni pad follows the same shape and material as the stock pad with about double the thickness. The universe pad is the same material with about triple the thickness of the stock w5000 pad, but sounds sounds closer to stock than the dekoni pad (to my ears). I've no idea what properties involved result in more clarity.
That is most certainly intriguing. You sure it's not placebo? There is still the materials inside, that may affect the sound. Since it is meant for TH900, maybe the pads by default have something to them. But don't think to hard about it, I have long since given up on understand how this all works, because in the end you are still confused about one or another aspect of thins hobby.
Hi Josh great interesting video, I been changing pads on my Senn hd660s1, and 6xx, I already fitted custom cans bass mod and fitted velour 1.25” thick pads on my 6xx, and thicker pads in 660s1and does sound a bit more bass, it’s interesting that I have old hd575 and that had 1.25” thick pads but as you know Senn are 3/4” pads as standard now .the pads I have already fitted made my headphones even more comfortable over the standard that sennheiser supplied. Regards mark
I should have watched this earlier. Just bought a velour brainwavz for my ath-m40x. It makes my cans sounded way less bassy, which i didn't like it :'). Luckily i have a gaming headphone, and it makes my super bassy gaming headphone into more enjoyable bass in my honest opinion.
Oh man. I'd like to reduce a little of high, and let some of the bass escape, reduce the boom on my Sony's. But I can't use fabrics, I tried something referred as "sport fabric" and "Ice Silk" and a few others I don't know the naming. So far they were all itchy, irritating or got hotter than the Pu Leather I have and genuine leather I've used. Any chance there's one that have airy,material on the whole pad and leather where it touch my skin? Maybe try perforated leather? I also haven't tried full velour, but pretty sure it'll make me hotter. Contrary to what everyone says about hot climate. I live in hot and humid climate. And run hot, produce lot of heat. And fuzzy materials, like velvet or fur, trap that heat. The silk ones are cool to the touch. But when I put them on, very quickly get heated up because of me. My protein leather ones, (the ones that came with my Sony's) don't feel cool normally, but they regulate the temperature better. They get warm but never bothersome. I have wear them for hours. Maybe I've just had very bad luck with the fabric ones I've tried. I mean, I've used polyester that was incredibly uncomfortable, while also some of my most comfortable clothes are or have polyester. Just like porous scruffy cotton vs smooth soft cotton. I think I'm gonna give Brainwavz perforated a chance.
Anyone have recommendations for pad swap on HE4XX? I tend to like vocals with still an enjoyable amount of bass. Was thinking of getting a sheepskin pad for them cause I like the feeling of the material in general but wonder how the different pads would affect the sound.
People are changing stock he4xx pads for ori lambskin or ori lambskin perforated. I personally have no knowledge about either of these yet but I'm probably gonna get the lambskin ori perforated. Then I could tell something but for now you can search the web for that info 😉
Hi Josh, nice and detailed explanation! IYO, what is the best alternative pads for HD650/6xx? Stock pads, while sounding great, they are not really that comfortable.
So is leather going to be the best for passive noise cancellation? And if you go velour or microfiber, doesn't that materiel absorb all of the oils from your skin? With my current stock fake leather pads, I can just wipe that away easily.
My DT770 Pro 80 ohm headphones are a bit uncomfortable on my right ear (?!) probably because I wear glasses. Are there any pads you guys would recommend?
Looking to replace my hd650 pads, leaning towards hybrid but people seem to favor the velour (which is cheaper) but I think hybrid might feel a bit better, both should be comfy though
Disagree with your conclusions on the velour pads. You said they bring out the mids and wind down the bass/highs but I just got the velour brainwavz and they just boost the bass through the roof and muddy the mids/lower the highs. DT 1990
I had some brainwavz and they feel apart. So wouldn't buy from them again. Find it interesting whether they change the sonic properties of the headphones.
What pads would you recommend for HD58X? I was considering Fenestrated Sheepskin vs Skeepskin vs. Hybrid. Looking at Dekoni mostly. I'm not really into the velour pads that come with them... they remind me of a car from the 1990's. I really wish there was a fenestrated inside, fenestrated ear-side, regular sheepskin outside, but alas there there doesn't seem to be...
@@intoitreviews Yesss I got the sheepskin for my 58X's too (although the cheaper NewFantasia one on Amazon) and i definitely also think it helped the sound a lot. But the fenestrated sounded a lot different? How?
Pad depth - 1:06
Why change pads? - 3:18
Material sounds - 5:00
Comfort - 9:50
Build and Brands - 11:10
Great video. Very informative.
Don't apologize for the longer content. A lot of us enjoy info packed vids no matter the length.
Agreed - I’d always prefer a detailed review with time stamps (we can always watch on a faster speed if pressed for time). So long as everything you put in the script is relevant and important to pass on, it’s worth sharing and that’s what we’re here for.
Don't be sorry, it was a very good video. I would say 10 times better than what Zeos made in his video about pads. BTW the longer I compare Zeos videos to other audio TH-camrs like yourself the more I came to a conclusion that while he is entertaining his videos are the worst in terms of actual information on sound signature. And you are one of the better source in that department so keep up the good work :)
Stanisław Szczypuła I politely disagree :)
As a general consumer I appreciate their differences as it gives me a wide scope on the products they both cover
Zeos is basically "fuck those, get these", or "fuck these"
I watch both and I still trust Zeos. If you need a quick idea of whether a pair headphones is good you just watch a bit of a Z review and then compare and contrast with other videos. Also if you have a pair of analytical headphones you can use the sound demos Z provides to compare them. Is it as good as being there with the headphones on your head? No, of course not but you can pick out characteristics of a headphone.
His audio demos suck ass so I automatically don't care about what he blabbers about
I really like the intro, its clean a simple but still gives a lot of information about your channel
Thanks Nick!
I saw your video before buying new pads for my edifier w820bt and I've chosen more thick hybrid ones (pu leather and velour) based on your opinion. Dude, it's exaclty as you described. Bass, comfort, less high peaks (for me this is awesome) and A LOT of details. It has totally changed the headphone sound. My experience with it is even better. Now I'm listening everything that I like again hahaha. Thanks a lot for the great content.
I think this video needs more hand movement
I enjoy his stage presence, hand movement presentation. After seeing bad hand movements in some people, I appreciate someone who knows how to properly use gestures.
You doomed me, know i can't unsee he overuse hand movement :(
Gesticulation.
I didn't even notice his hand movements.
So it is not annoying
LOL
The oval hybrid brainwavz turned my 450BTs from headphones I couldn’t wear for more than an hour due to fatigue to the most comfortable Bluetooth headphones I own. Thanks for the video you’re a life saver!
Regarding the depth of pads and its affect on bass, I had always assumed that deeper would provide more surface area to reinforce/amplify the bass, but with my HD650's, for example, I have found that bass increases (and I think treble actually decreases) as the pads get older and more compressed...so less deep. Also, I have experienced similar when I have tried pushing headphones onto my head, so that the drivers are nearer my ears. I know with closed backs this is sometimes because the seal improves, but I've also found it the case with already well sealed closed backs and with open backs. Having said all this, a slightly deeper/bigger set of pads with my K371's did increase bass.
I just went on an ear pad shopping spree. Thanks, Joshua!
You can make pads really cheaply if you know how to use a sewing machine and get whatever material fits your preference like I made super plush soft leather ear pads out of a old welding jacket and purple foam for the cushion on the inside
I really like how you list everything in the description, beyond the pads you showed us your gear and all! Very awesome of you!
I'm a bit late to the party, but I can't help but point out that Joshua Valour should clearly recommend velour.
(damn, I'm corny... yet despite stopping myself from hitting "comment" for the last 15 minutes, I'm doing it anyways).
You have no idea how long I've been saying that in my head :D
nice video, I have my monitor headphones which obviously use all leather pads. These are great at isolation which often I need in my house while gaming or need concentration. When I really want detail and have a quiet area to listen to music then I go velour. They seem to have the most natural sonic character with no manipulation to the original song, but do require a very quiet room to fully appreciate.
One thing you didn't mention on comfort is that for some headphones getting more depth on the pad can save a headphone from crushing your ears, especially if you're somebody with a bigger head (and therefore ears) or more sticky out ears
Hey guys. The hybrid Hifiman velour/microfiber base with leather on the outside is actually quite scratchy on your face compared to leather/pleather. The super soft Alcantara that my HD800 has is a super duper soft comfortable material. Hope this helps someone. Sadly there are no full leather or Alcantera pad replacements for the large yolk Arya/Ananda/etc shape so far including none from Dekoni so far as of Aug 2020 I believe
I replaced my Arctis 9x earpads to velour and omg the difference is massive in comfortability is amazing
Really helpful guide. Didn't know that there could be slight sound differences depending on the earpad you choose.
Going back in time to this video, it's crazy to see how much you've improved your editing and general quality. The audio and visuals were still pretty nice, though.
Didn’t know Oliver Queen was an audiophile 😂 quality content though, I appreciate it.
@Ronnie Fletcher stop existing
@@realtedkaczynski
You're talking to a bot,
which is sad.
@@wale9d Guess I did not notice, but why the mean comment?
@@realtedkaczynski
That wasn't meant to upset you, just showing how sad it is that these bots are on TH-cam now.
I apologize
@@wale9d No worries :D
I totally agree, these bots have started popping up all over the place since not too long ago!
Thanks for the video, this was super informative. I bought perforated leather thinking it would be the middle ground of the bassy full leather and the airy velour.... I was wrong. The perforated leather lost all the crisp details I was use to hearing on my Audio-Technica ADG1X. Your explanation was an exact match to my situation. I'm going to try full leather next, and if that fails, I'll just stick with velour.
so how was the full leather if you got it, cause for me with my dt990s it was too bassy and lost the treble clarity which I didn't like
@@mrplumpkin_x3c The full leather did lose some of the airy details, but gave a little more bass. I really like the look and feel of blue full leather on my blue ADG1x, so I accepted the compromise. I just surprised by how bad the perforated leather killed the details in the sound.
@@JopTooFTW oh dang, thanks for the response, and yeah I might stick with the velour cups, not a fan of the leather lol.
For me, it's the Brainwavz rounded XL pleather + memory foam for that bass transfer power
How does this man do not have 1 million subscribers?
Re Brainwavz XL fitted to AKG K5500 - likes: readily available, easy to fit, comfortable, good external sound exclusion. Dislikes: thicker than the originals. This moves the drivers further away from the ears and this affects the sound more than you might expect. Test by pressing the back of the headphones with your fingers which move the drivers closer to your ears. The sound changes a lot - warmer and more engaging to my ears, although the sound otherwise is acceptable. If AKG make the originals available again I will buy them, but these will do in the meantime.
Love my combination of ZMF Ori Hybrids on the TH900mk2 (with Dekoni attenuation rings).
They take out that little pinch of highs which were too much for me in longer listening sessions.
Bass got, i dont know how to say it but just more Balanced.
Feels like the V-Shape got a little bit flattened but without losing the TH900's bass abilities and also improves it.
Also they are 1000x more comfortable than stock pads :)
Thoughts on sheepskin vs hybrid pads on the ATH M40X
A while ago I put ZMF lambskin pads and the headband on my logitech g933 and it worked a charm. Not only are they extremely comfortable but the sound got cupped in and believe it or not the sound quality drastically improved
Zeos and Josh deserve to have the number of their subscribers switched.
Why? Lol. Z is great and has done this for a long time, he earned his subscribers. These two are both different and both great, whats wrong with variety and entertainment?
You can't really compare them, they make totally different kind of content. We have two really cool but very different channels. Also Z has been in the game a lot longer
Just ordered Yaxi pads for my HD58x's based on people saying they're slightly better than dekoni ones
I bought some 16 dollar pleather replacement pads to replace my Itchy X2HR velour pads and they sound just as good as the stock pads as best I can tell .
So which pads would you recommend for the HD 6xx for that best sound performance
Just ordered dekoni hybrids for my x00 eb. Hope they increased the comfort without changing the sound sig much.
may i have your review on the dekoni pad?
I'm going to have to re-watch this and take notes. Thanks for the info
I know this is an older vid Josh but I found it very informative. I've opted for the Brainwavz angled pads and a new headband cover for my ATH-WS1100is - whatever the hell Audio Technica chose to cover the foam with is flaking off already and I refuse to spend serious dollars on replacement parts for something that lasts for years on headphones from Beyerdynamic and others. Sennheiser seems to have settled on the same supplier - no doubt a lowballer from China who really couldnt give a crap about customer satisfaction over the longer term. How is it that my old Koss Portapros are still holding together while more expensive cans literally decompose in front of you ? Shameful QC,
Thanks for the video.
Got some nice sheepskin dekonis on my dt1990pro. I didnt like the feel of stock velour, so it was a great upgrade. Quality is top notch.
Listening to you because my new Meze 99 Noirs are extremely sibilant. Fyi, the audio EQ on your channel is top notch and you sound less sibilant on these than any other source I've tried. Great job with your recording and production.
Thanks a bunch for the video, this was really great. By far the most helpful explanation I've seen of how different materials affect sound signature. I'd be curious to see how the new Brainwavz Sheepskin Suede pads compare.
what pads would you recommend for Fidelio X2HR? aim is to keep similar sound signature and correct some weaknesses.
I simply LOVE my Dekoni elite hybrid sound signature with DT1990s.. From stock pads I definitely preffered the Analytical ones , I found the Balanced losing too much detail for my taste especially in the mids.. Now Elite velour is even better in the lows and creates amazing quality bass while keeping end emphazising the mids a bit more and even a tad the highs creating an amazing sound signature.. I'm definitely not the most knowledgeable person but I'm almost certain that the Elite Velour is the perfect match for the DT1990..
any idea if certain pads make imaging better or worse? picking up DT1990 and will be using for gaming.
I did try tampons instead of pads once. It was cleaner and more convenient, but I definitely couldn’t hear the music as well…
Really informative and nuanced video. I appreciate the way you think and how you present your thoughts.
Dekoni pads are really nice but the adhesive they use is really weak and came apart after like 3 months... twice. Ended up going Brainwavz and after a year, they still feel nice.
I have DT770. Which one to use ?
I need to get full leather since all the breathable pads do in my weather is allow sweat to be absorbed into the pads and not actually "vent" the heat away.
Hi Joshua, thanks for this informative video. I hv sennheiser HD450BT, the quality is good m, but poor pads cushion. Can you suggest me the best pads replacement for it? Thanks
I like how when you said "Sibilance" at 5:42, it was an example of Sibilance.
No. Echo and resonance happen everywhere with audio. Rooms. Headphone pads. Human ears.
Sibilance is different.
Joshua Valour I was just saying that on my Monoprice Retros, the 's' sound when you said the word Sibilance sounded sibilant to me.
Ohhhh- Gotcha. YEah, they do that sometimes.
Love your video ! Just want your opinion! Sheepskin / leather / Micro Suede is best in warm countries which doesn’t change sound signature
Did you find an answer....which is best for hot countries, to reduce sweating? Thanks
@@scuba453 Yeah i did find finally. Micro Suede is the best for warm countries. But do make sure you are buying a headphones which has third party cushion sellers
Jaxy look at this cool headphones pads
Grado is one of the best headphones that are affected by changing the pads a lot.
Hi guys. What pads do you recommend for Hifiman HE-500? I use thease velour box pads. Leather sounds worse for me. I would like them to be more comfortable and have good detail.
How do different leathers compare in sound and comfort? What sort of animals are leather made from? I know some are sheepskin but what else? I would assume deer but I'd like that confirmed. I used to work in a leather wearhouse so I am a bit of a leather nerd.
There's this no name pad that I absolutely love. Standard oval shape but its so deep that it doesn't let the tip of my ear touch the headphone. Its also really cheap so you can buy them by the droves. Downside is because they're cheap, the material pleather easily sheds off overtime. Like, maybe half a year or something.
I would say that the back end is two inches, the front is an inch. I use them on my HE400i, stretching them out so that they're round. I would like to find a similar earpad but rather than pleather, its some lasting material.
I got the HE4XX a couple of months ago, I love the sound but the stock pads get a bit sweaty. So I bought some suede zmf ori pads for them. I think it's lambskin suede because it's so soft. Turns out I'm not sure I like the change in sound. The ori pads took the edge off the highs, darkened the sound a bit and I didn't notice any increase in bass, just some slight muddiness. Also the ori pads hold the drivers slightly further from your ears which I'm sure affects clarity. I've actually put the stock pads back on. The ori pads can be for gaming because they're more comfortable over time.
I just switched to fenestrated angled pads for my he4xx, sound signature is nearly identical to the stock. Maybe slightly better imo.
Try hybrid pads or tune the sound with an equalizer
I swap between dekoni fenestrated and sheepskin. The later is more relaxed, but both are closer to your head than the ZMF pads.
@@intoitreviews glad to hear this, I just joined the drop on massdrop for them. I love the he4xx, but I hate velour, I can't stand dust on pads,the feel of velour just isn't comfortable, and the original pads are more stiff then I'd like. Sound signature is great, so I want to keep that with the he4xx
Great video! Thanks! Well spoken, and detailed. Very helpful
Hey Joshua. Cool vid bro. What can I use for the best bass production for the Superlux 668 headphones.
Thanks, I'm looking for pads for my Koss pro4aa. I love the sound signature with a nice even and extended bass but the pads are very hot and my ears actually touch the inner screen. I can't wear them for more than an hour usually. I was going to get the velour but this video convinced me to try the hybrid instead since I don't want the bass absorbed. The Bainwaves are on sale now and the Dekoni are too expensive for me to put on a $75 headphone.
Good info.
13:28 Ear pads on at least the LCD2C is using adhesive to hold them on and that is why you got that well adhesive there.
well duh,
But, they COULD have crapped out in that area and the plastic ring underneath, but, didn't. That was my point.
I want as flat of a sound signal as possible. I'm a producer so when mixing you want to have the sound as flat as possible so that it sounds good on any devise basically. What is the best option here?
great job on the vid btw
Very , very useful information my friend, thank you a lot!.
This is the video i neaded and wanted i just subscribed thank you for this. Now a video about different eartips for iems.
whats also great about the brainwavz ones is the dimension is not as advertised. 30mm depth? more like 25mm.
Good stuff and something I've been hoping other people would've done or documented a long time ago. For the most part, I agree with your findings with the exception of the perforated leathers. From my experience, they tend to not decrease highs but increase clarity by reducing bass. However, this might be due to headphones I used (ad1000x, ad2000, w5000, argon mk3) and the make/brand (zmf auteur).
I guess to further contribute to the conversation, I'll add my findings on other zmf types. Pleather (oval and eikons) tend to makes things more v-shaped, with the ovals having more violent (mid)bass. Suede (eikons) tend to increase and clean up bass while making highs less fatiguing. Cowhide (oval) follows suede sonic pattern but further warms up mids.
The most interesting is sheepskin (universe) because I once had dekoni sheepskin th900. They follow your interpretation of how leathers affect sound, but the th900 pads muddied the mids a bit more. I'm really interested on what physical aspect of the pads led to this difference. If it's thickness of the sheepskin itself, then I fear the pad rabbit hole goes deeper than I thought it did.
TH900 is a very bassy headphone and I mean, have you seen the frequency response? If you add anything to contribute to more bass, I wouldn't be surprised to see the midrange go to shits and beyond.
WildStyle I think there's a misunderstanding. I wasn't referring to a th900 itself, but a pad dekoni specifies for the th900, but can be used on other headphones.
Oh I see, so you used it on other headphone? In that case which one?
dekoni sheepskin Th900 pads on AD1000x, AD2000, W5000, and argon mk3. I expected the muddiness with the open models given that it went from a more open pad to a closed one. The changes in the w5000 are a bit more confusing given that the dekoni pad follows the same shape and material as the stock pad with about double the thickness. The universe pad is the same material with about triple the thickness of the stock w5000 pad, but sounds sounds closer to stock than the dekoni pad (to my ears).
I've no idea what properties involved result in more clarity.
That is most certainly intriguing. You sure it's not placebo? There is still the materials inside, that may affect the sound. Since it is meant for TH900, maybe the pads by default have something to them. But don't think to hard about it, I have long since given up on understand how this all works, because in the end you are still confused about one or another aspect of thins hobby.
Hi Josh great interesting video, I been changing pads on my Senn hd660s1, and 6xx, I already fitted custom cans bass mod and fitted velour 1.25” thick pads on my 6xx, and thicker pads in 660s1and does sound a bit more bass, it’s interesting that I have old hd575 and that had 1.25” thick pads but as you know Senn are 3/4” pads as standard now .the pads I have already fitted made my headphones even more comfortable over the standard that sennheiser supplied. Regards mark
Best pads for athm40x please
Excellent new video idea
And nice Vid BTW
Thanks David!
Where can i buy pads for Senn Orpheus ?
This video was very helpful and well made. Thanks!
For Sony WH1000XM4 would you recommend Dekoni Deep Leather or Dekoni Deep Suede?
I think we have the same type of preference in types of headset which one would u reccomend for val and cod ?
Great explanation, great pros and cons, awesome. Thanks!
I should have watched this earlier. Just bought a velour brainwavz for my ath-m40x. It makes my cans sounded way less bassy, which i didn't like it :'). Luckily i have a gaming headphone, and it makes my super bassy gaming headphone into more enjoyable bass in my honest opinion.
thank you so much joshua, ur video is really helpful
Great explanation; thanks.
Any suggestions to get more bass and crisp highs on 660s?
Oh man. I'd like to reduce a little of high, and let some of the bass escape, reduce the boom on my Sony's. But I can't use fabrics, I tried something referred as "sport fabric" and "Ice Silk" and a few others I don't know the naming. So far they were all itchy, irritating or got hotter than the Pu Leather I have and genuine leather I've used. Any chance there's one that have airy,material on the whole pad and leather where it touch my skin? Maybe try perforated leather? I also haven't tried full velour, but pretty sure it'll make me hotter. Contrary to what everyone says about hot climate. I live in hot and humid climate. And run hot, produce lot of heat. And fuzzy materials, like velvet or fur, trap that heat. The silk ones are cool to the touch. But when I put them on, very quickly get heated up because of me. My protein leather ones, (the ones that came with my Sony's) don't feel cool normally, but they regulate the temperature better. They get warm but never bothersome. I have wear them for hours.
Maybe I've just had very bad luck with the fabric ones I've tried. I mean, I've used polyester that was incredibly uncomfortable, while also some of my most comfortable clothes are or have polyester. Just like porous scruffy cotton vs smooth soft cotton.
I think I'm gonna give Brainwavz perforated a chance.
Great guide, thx a lot Josh
thanks, always hoped some one who will talk about this
AHG ear cushions are also amazing
I was going to do this exact video, but I decided not to. You did an awesome job!
Amazing video! do i have to search for replacements by the specific model of HP or Is there a way to measure and catalog them trough sizes?
What earpads are most similair to the HyperX Cloud II earpads?
I wish Brainwavz would make an XL Round angled earpad in Microsuede. There's a hole in the market for this :(
Try modhouse ring for k7xx and you can use zmf ori pads
Anyone have recommendations for pad swap on HE4XX?
I tend to like vocals with still an enjoyable amount of bass. Was thinking of getting a sheepskin pad for them cause I like the feeling of the material in general but wonder how the different pads would affect the sound.
People are changing stock he4xx pads for ori lambskin or ori lambskin perforated. I personally have no knowledge about either of these yet but I'm probably gonna get the lambskin ori perforated. Then I could tell something but for now you can search the web for that info 😉
from your experience would you recommend the hybrid pads for the DT1770's?
Wow it really helps. Thank you so much!
Hi Josh, nice and detailed explanation! IYO, what is the best alternative pads for HD650/6xx? Stock pads, while sounding great, they are not really that comfortable.
Pu leather or perforated leather pads for better noise cancellation? Please help
So is leather going to be the best for passive noise cancellation? And if you go velour or microfiber, doesn't that materiel absorb all of the oils from your skin? With my current stock fake leather pads, I can just wipe that away easily.
What pads should I get for hifi man Sundara
My DT770 Pro 80 ohm headphones are a bit uncomfortable on my right ear (?!) probably because I wear glasses. Are there any pads you guys would recommend?
I've put thicker earpads on my dt770 and they sound better and more comfortable
Looking to replace my hd650 pads, leaning towards hybrid but people seem to favor the velour (which is cheaper) but I think hybrid might feel a bit better, both should be comfy though
Disagree with your conclusions on the velour pads. You said they bring out the mids and wind down the bass/highs but I just got the velour brainwavz and they just boost the bass through the roof and muddy the mids/lower the highs. DT 1990
any idea if certain pads make imaging better or worse? picking up DT1990 and will be using for gaming.
I had some brainwavz and they feel apart. So wouldn't buy from them again. Find it interesting whether they change the sonic properties of the headphones.
How would compare the bass on the 1990s with Dakoni pads to the 1770s with stock pads?
Which material should i get if i want the most comfort and high bass?
Hi Joshua, awesome video as usual. I have recently bought the M40X, can I know which pads will help to boost the bass a bit. Thanks!☺️
Same here ....Tum hi bol do
The thicker the leather the more bass. Anything else will reduce the Bass
Hey, I Have m40x's too and am looking for the exact same sound signature, what worked best for you?
wow... another normal youtuber
What pads would you recommend for HD58X? I was considering Fenestrated Sheepskin vs Skeepskin vs. Hybrid. Looking at Dekoni mostly. I'm not really into the velour pads that come with them... they remind me of a car from the 1990's. I really wish there was a fenestrated inside, fenestrated ear-side, regular sheepskin outside, but alas there there doesn't seem to be...
I went through them all... I like elite sheepskin best... fenestrated was awful for 58x.
@@intoitreviews Yesss I got the sheepskin for my 58X's too (although the cheaper NewFantasia one on Amazon) and i definitely also think it helped the sound a lot. But the fenestrated sounded a lot different? How?
Great subject! Clearly explained
You try wicked cushions?
what type of material do you think keeps the ears most cool temperature wise?
would also like to know.....do you have a recommendation for cool ear pads? Thanks