@@cmike123 I guess they just didn't know how to utilize them effectively? Since it's such a versatile class, I guess it's a bit hard for developers to decide on how to craft one that feels balanced? I don't know, the only Bard I have any familiarity with was that from FFXI and FFXIV, amongst others throughout the FF series; and most times they're just used as enchanters or AoE buffers for the Party. I like what they've shown here, especially with the tree on specializing on certain songs or dances, to really give you that since of freedom on being your own style of Bard.
@@XDarkEcho Maybe. Everquest, Lineage and other older MMOs used to have them. I think the problem is MMOs have moved away from group play. Every class needs to be able to solo until it's time to raid. Old MMOs, you couldn't solo shit outside of the starting zones. That meant that buffers with low damage got tossed to the curb.
@@cmike123 I agree, MMOs used to be very difficult for solo play, only the most experienced could do it; outside of that, you NEEDED to party. Which, I mean, it makes sense, why should you be able to solo everything in the game, till it's time for Raids? That kind of defeats the whole purpose of an MMORPG in my opinion, but I guess I understand, back then there were hardly instanced grouping, you needed to talk to people in the community/zones in order to group up; now it's just instances to run most content that requires group play.
It's a super multicombo that Bard!Back in the day we had to creat second accounts ,level them up😅 to reach that great buff and use them only for their (if i remeber correctly)thirty min buff.. I remember befor any siege, we would climp the hills outside of Aden just having themthere to group up only for rebuffing Now those players will also have active roll in pvps siege and all!
@@apostolisth.3262 I don't see this ''multicombo'' that u mention. There's 2 combos, Incapacitated + Stun (if u finished a cast of 4seconds that does almost no damage over time, in the end will stun the incapacitated character, the BARD's creator, Bucky, fail to do that a single time in the showcase) , there's also the Staggered + Disarm. And that's it. The other so called combos are more healing over time... this aint a combo, lol.
@@kfarbarata I hear you. It is a team game, a group of 8 i think. The bard has enough have croud control skills. I mean, the priest has the AoE CC stun (those chains) the fighter also has stun AoE and add the portals of mages and whatever the summoner will do . If you add all that spells ,with a nice rotation , its a super combo !
Dark Lullaby does not put enemies to sleep, it deals damage to asleep/incap enemies without waking them up and will do an extra stun on the end if you hit them with the final bit of damage while they are incap
This skill need to be reworked, Bucky fail to do the combo a single time in the entire showcase. For it to happen would take a lot of coordination or would happen more in single target solo playing situations. As the spell pool is right now, there's no reason to pick anything other than full support. Mind the fact that they are lv11 in the stream and u won't have half of this amount of spells available due to skill points, they only had that much cause they showcasin. U can pick Mesmerizing Dance (and I think all Bards will pick) but the Dark Lullaby its not worth the time/risk. U will cast for 4s on a single target (while ur party is dying u are trying to single target stun a incapacitated character and will fail cause probably one of them will hit it with an AOE skill anw). the spell description say the cast time is 3s but in game was 4s with animations. Also the skill does near to none damage at all. I would make it at least AOE (even if small AOE), or add something else like Life Steal in it (even if the lifesteal procks only on incapacitated targets). The only other combo is Staggered (u could do it with Discordance) and Disarm (that happens when using Get Off the Stage - the violin skill). The bard need a lot of work, its great but far from really good. Its just a full support class as the way it is right now, as cool as it could be, it will become boring in late game.
@@kfarbarata Its actually a really powerful skill, you just need land last hit on the target while they are incapped, it doesnt mean you need to be the one who applies the incap. 6 seconds is a very long time espcially with a ttk of 10-15 seconds.
@@anthonyw4722 I wonder if a highly skill bard/cleric augments could solo heal, I know they said they dont wanna design it that way, but I talking about an absolute beast playing it
Dude there's a thing that I dont see ppl commenting or perceiven and thats the amount of skill points. Mind the fact that they are lv 11 in the Stream and u will NOT have near half of the spells they had at that lvl. They edited the character to showcase whats ready. The bard still have 3 skills on wiki that they didnt show, the other sagas and 4 more passives (all on wiki). The bard probably will have to chose some of that and by looking at it do we really think that will be viable to do anything other than full hp/mp support??? I mean, the supportive skills are way better than any debuffs. Do u see urself getting AOE shield (fake hp) or do u see urself getting 25% movspeed bust for 5seconds? There's a song that downs 10% of sorounding enemies damage, do u pick that or do u pick a song that gives ur party 50% lifesteal? Do u see urself giving some single target 10s of 25%aspd or AOE heal over time? Do u get what I mean? ... I don't think they thought that enough. A group doing a raid will not accept bards that focus on disruptive spells. Its a slave supp class right now. Even if they give u infinite respec for free in a way u could do any build at any time, it will be not worth to pick most of the spells that are debuffs and single target buffs (that happens in ArcheAge for ex, u can respec for lil gold and this still happens), the offensive ones will be a meme too... the AOE maddening dance that suposed to be a offensive skill works better as a defensive skill cause no bard will jump into the adversary mob to prock a skill that make'em the main focus (maddening gives 30% less atkdm debuff on enemies that got Humiliated (after being demoralized by the single target skill) but they do full damage on the caster - that is right next to u dancing his life out- u just need to stun and kill it , it doesnt have any cleanse spell, only way to get out is Flourish - that does not cleanse CC- so, ofensvly will work more on PVE).
@@kfarbarata Gotta remember there is a shitload of pvp and Im referring to that as well, its all speculation at this point obviously and Im just guessing based of my WoW brain which we need to be re-wired for AoC
They are strongly pulling from archeage bard. I used to play bard in archeage and i was shocked that they ripped half of the abilities from this game almost exactly and named them the same as well. Definetly looks more fun to play and more cool looking…but damn. Kind of unsettling.
They did a great job with the animations of the dances, but man overall I just can't shake the "modernity" of it. It feels out of place in the high fantasy setting, just look at those icons straight out of Dance Dance Revolution! lol. Overall a cool bard though, not as cool as Vanguard Saga of Heroes' where you can craft your own songs from scratch, but pretty cool ig
think we might get a good idea how long A2 might be on august16th depending how much of an roadmap they gonna shere we will see how fast they planning on adding content and how much they actually have ready
I really do not mind about delays if it means we will eventually get a better game to enjoy. Mmorpg's are meant to remain as entertainment for years to come, sort of like a life companion. The development of these games usually takes something between 5 to 10 years so I get upset every time some company releases bad game after all those years. For ashes, I am really hoping to see some improvement in spell detailing and other visuals and rather not that flashy ad/hd anime style but more realistic graphics. As this game runs on unreal engine 5, there should be room for great visuals. As it looks now on test videos, they really are not using all that potential but I hope it is because of alpha state. I hope this game will become the next "Wow" and be a success. I am currently playing Eso and as a Wow mythic veteran, I am anxiously waiting the next great mmorpg to fill my life for years to come.
With Firebrand (the Firedragon from the Art Update) being announced to be in the Alpha 2 beginning.. any more copium takes about the biomes that are in? The picture doesnt look like the riverlands, more Jundark or the grey mountain area north of it..?
Bard looks great, i cant wait for ashes to release in full so i can play my dwarf bard/rogue with my wife and kids in our new home! To clarify im engaged, and dont even have plot to build on.
Cathartic Melody is OP as hell. That's literally the most powerful ability showcased so far, and it's not even augmented. That will literally give out more healing than the Cleric. Actually replacing Clerics with bards so you can have 100% uptime on that melody already seems like a problem. 25% chance to heal 50% of damage done is just completely bananas.
I somewhat agree, and wish they used it more in the stream. One thing I disagree on is that tanks don’t seem like they’ll be doing a lot of damage, but they’ll be taking a lot more than what they can heal through this. Clerics might still be needed to pocket the tank, just cause they have access to many more single target heals. It would be interesting to see this more though, since a party with 100% uptime on cathartic melody would potentially allow clerics to fully spec into single target heal abilities and make them really strong, rather than having to slot some AOE heals as well, just cause the dps classes would be getting so many heals from bard’s melody.
my dream of an mmo bard turning the mmo into a rhythm game for everyone to use their skills to the beat of the instrument for a buff has once again not been reached :( maybe the next mmo :)
A little disappointing but I thought it would be at the end of September anyways but The bard showcase was an absolute W imo. If they treat each class with the same treatment and care they gave the Bard then the copium levels are going to raise to dangerous levels.
The bard still need work but I have to say it, Narc, they are close to do it right! I think is too much support healing focus, right now. I would like to have more builds with bard and that the supp healing would be just one of many we choose. The way is built right now felt that the other options were do not compesate. So a Bard-Mage DPS, Bard-Rogue melee or even focusing only on CC to disrupt enemies does not seem possible or acceptable in detrinment of full supp being way better. Also, there's a bunch of skills that I don't see anyone using at all. That single target that gives aspd... do we really see ppl stop their hp/mp support to single target cast for 4 seconds a skill that last for 10s and doest change that much? Those 2 AOE movspeed skills are near useless in a MMO where every Archetype have blink... anw, they can improve this.
@@bigmansam9605 graphics are not the best and besides the “server meshing “ nothing is really new or innovative …same old quest system that’s in every other RPG I was hoping they have pushed the bar a lot more and took bigger risk
everything is going to be one unit later than what they say it is. Q3? actually Q4. October? actually going to be in November. 26th day of the month? actually going to be on the 27th. this is my prediction.
You get a lot of extra stuff besides the A2 access. We only get A2 access. Ofcourse they're not gonna charge 150 or 250 euros for that. It's probably gonna be around 60 euros if I had to guess and for only access to A2 that seems fair to me
@@yarxul194 I paid 375 USD in 2021 Jan, adjust 5% a year for the past 3 years & they ought to be charging at least 300 if they’re excluding skins. With skins 500 would be reasonable. It’s just disrespectful to early supporters
I ignored this video for days because of the title. But then I watched another video where the title was better and figured this title wasn't a good repentance of the video. I'm sure these are supposed to get clicks, but they also turn off a lot of people. I don't know.
Not a big deal let them cook. It’s not like they will delay things like Star Citizen does. A few extra months to touch up Alpha 2 means it will be better and bigger than if it launched now, right or am I coping?
@sorasabi That's one way of looking at it, he's also on the record repeatedly talking about dates and saying he will always aim for them but if they feel it's not going to be the best then they will delay and push them out. I happen to agree with them on this approach. Judging by the sheer amount of work that's been put into it to date I have high hopes and even higher copium that this will be a MMO to take up years of my time.
@sorasabilol what do you mean "deal with the reality". I'm aware of how long it's taken and how long it will take, my estimate is another 2 years to release. Your opinion is that "the best thing they can do is go quiet", I'm glad they don't share your opinion mate. The vast majority of other MMOs do exactly that. This is exactly what open development entails, we get to see and provide feedback. You don't like it, then go support another project
@sorasabi Yeah that's my estimate, judging on what's been done so far. The 2 Beta's to come some time next year or the year after up until release. I'll be able to gauge better next livestream when they release the roadmap for Alpha 2, going off that, I can narrow or broaden my estimate. What's your thoughts on a timeframe and why?
@sorasabi I'm a software Dev myself but in the corporate space. This would be where I disagree with you, respectfully, what I've seen to date shows a core game. The pioneering work in their server meshing and replication layer work shows that they're aiming at exactly what you're talking about, no reliance on client side trust, no bottle knecks on replication that would cause lag and group content friction. All positive, obviously the proof will be in the pudding. Where I do agree with you is a lot of what they've shown is "relatively" easy to do in UE5 but not easy to the scale they have currently. While I am enjoying their open development approach to their game it does come at a significant risk/cost to them as a business. What is to stop Final Fantasy, BDO, New World from stealing their ideas and IP? It would be a lot faster for them to chuck it into their games currently than for Intrepid to release the game. It would probably be shitely implemented but it would ruin the novelty. So I truly believe that Steven and the Intrepid gang are keeping a lot of their cards close to their chest so I'd say a vast amount of the game is there already(inhale copium). So let's compromise and say 3-4 years 🤣 hope to see you in the world of Vera sooner rather than later chief! Take care!
If they Delay it and what? Is that a problem? Alpha 2 is long run so if they need time to get things right, simply give them that time and dont be horny. They do f big leaps from month to month and we dont see all work done so...
this game is going to be microtransaction heavy, it might not be pay to win but its going to be 100% pay to look good and pay everything else that they can get away with
The instruments aren't fully fleshed out yet so didn't want to show them. They did have the spellbook ready so decided to show that now. A point to remember is any class can use any weapon, however from what I heard previously only the instruments can be used by bards as weapons. I could be wrong here but that's what I think I remember :D
I liked everything until apocalypse. it for me just doesnt fit the class. I would have rather a major buff or multiple buffs all at once instantly. regen mp regen overshield atk up def up aoe multiple debuffs. Doesnt have to last 30 seconds just 15 seconds of max out buff stats. To push through a dps check phase. or that oh shit moment of if this doesnt turn around were doomed.
Last Archetype reveal "before Alpha 2" was what Narc said. As far as I remember they said the Rogue would be introduced during Alpha 2, i.e. November/December timeframe maybe
Lots to cover for this showcase. Curious what your thoughts are on the mana management in group combat, to me it needs work. Also, this was showing the updated lighting system which was supposed to show their art direction and style and to me it looks bland.
@sorasabi okay we’ll I like the look of this game and am following it development and get to choose how I spend my time and money and you just coming on here to troll people is kinda sad 🤷♂️
Immature adults crying over "not having what they want immediatly" but then again, this is the result of TikTok, SnapChat etc. since people cant handle the feeling of being bored. Not only new ones, but the older generations too, are spoiled with constant dopamine episodes
Bro. We are never going to have secondary class Archetypes. The Bard is showing a ton of power creep already. I find it hard to believe adding Cleric or other buffs on to their kit.
@@joshuahetherington5161 You sound like you are a recent follower. Alpha 2 will be the third public test that A) doesnt have all the base archetypes and B) has no blueprint for the secondaries. They should be thinking of how you can mod these powers, which means they would need mod themes, which can only happen if the archetypes are fleshed out. If they run into a snag with mods AFTER they complete all of the powers, then they will need to either scrap the mod system or redo the powers. It isnt looking great on that front. You would have to hope that they will somehow not run into regular coding fuck-ups.
@@cmike123 nah I've been following for quite a few years. There's a few things at play here, in my opinion: - a balance on what to show the players and what to hold back so the game is not completely revealed prior to launch. - alpha 2 will also run for quite a while and there's a roadmap coming soon to explain what's going to be shown when, I would imagine the augments will be in this roadmap - the points you made originally saying it's already overpowered is very premature, they only just showed the class 😂 there will be heavy adjustments but those adjustments will only need to be numbers really - I agree with your point about a worry of classes becoming obsolete for sure but that will come down to balancing, i.e. is it better to have 2 clerics than a bard and a cleric for healing? Is it better to have 2 dps or a bard and a dps? In party compositions.
Bard looks great, gave me some DAoC Bards/Minstrels vibe. I am still not overly excited by character movement/animations as yet, but given its not remotely close to release those areas may improve. World looks amazing though.
Well be discussing the delay, the upcoming AMA and everything bard live right now over at: //www.twitch.tv/Narciverse
missed it... sadge
To be fair, Narc, the title you chose for this video is somewhat misleading.
Ur scam artist this game won’t ever come out
Alpha 2 coming Oct 32nd!!!
What Steven was trying to say... October 2054.
2045
2077
alpha 2 six years minimum 🗿
I had no idea what to think of a bard class - this looks awesome tbh
Bards used to be pretty dope, but MMOs stopped using them.
@@cmike123 I guess they just didn't know how to utilize them effectively? Since it's such a versatile class, I guess it's a bit hard for developers to decide on how to craft one that feels balanced? I don't know, the only Bard I have any familiarity with was that from FFXI and FFXIV, amongst others throughout the FF series; and most times they're just used as enchanters or AoE buffers for the Party.
I like what they've shown here, especially with the tree on specializing on certain songs or dances, to really give you that since of freedom on being your own style of Bard.
@@XDarkEcho Maybe. Everquest, Lineage and other older MMOs used to have them. I think the problem is MMOs have moved away from group play. Every class needs to be able to solo until it's time to raid. Old MMOs, you couldn't solo shit outside of the starting zones. That meant that buffers with low damage got tossed to the curb.
@@cmike123 I agree, MMOs used to be very difficult for solo play, only the most experienced could do it; outside of that, you NEEDED to party. Which, I mean, it makes sense, why should you be able to solo everything in the game, till it's time for Raids? That kind of defeats the whole purpose of an MMORPG in my opinion, but I guess I understand, back then there were hardly instanced grouping, you needed to talk to people in the community/zones in order to group up; now it's just instances to run most content that requires group play.
ayyyyy lets go! Song of Copium
The flute bard with the summoner augment should have a pair of giant rats appear that follow each player in the party and defends them.
Actually sick idea. Post it up in the forums!
that would be cool, I would make one called Richard Hendricks
A Blade Dancer, Song Singer, Overlord, and Prophet all in one character... seems pretty fun. I'm glad they took all their inspiration from Lineage 2
the moment he mentioned swordsinger & bladedancer, following with L2.. I almost jeezd
It's a super multicombo that Bard!Back in the day we had to creat second accounts ,level them up😅 to reach that great buff and use them only for their (if i remeber correctly)thirty min buff..
I remember befor any siege, we would climp the hills outside of Aden just having themthere to group up only for rebuffing
Now those players will also have active roll in pvps siege and all!
I hope they look into archeage, ragnarok and even D&D (I hope any of them played Baldurs Gate 3) ...
@@apostolisth.3262 I don't see this ''multicombo'' that u mention. There's 2 combos, Incapacitated + Stun (if u finished a cast of 4seconds that does almost no damage over time, in the end will stun the incapacitated character, the BARD's creator, Bucky, fail to do that a single time in the showcase) , there's also the Staggered + Disarm. And that's it. The other so called combos are more healing over time... this aint a combo, lol.
@@kfarbarata I hear you. It is a team game, a group of 8 i think.
The bard has enough have croud control skills.
I mean, the priest has the AoE CC stun (those chains) the fighter also has stun AoE and add the portals of mages and whatever the summoner will do . If you add all that spells ,with a nice rotation , its a super combo !
They mentioned custom songs for a bard and that would be really cool! Hopefully we get more instruments like a lute or bagpipes
I don't recall then mentioning that but I do recall they mentioned they'd like to implement custom songs for all players (for leisure activities)
Looking forward to the Roadmap on the 16th! Bummed about the delay, but I hope it's going to make up for it.
I really like the direction they went with bard.
Dark Lullaby does not put enemies to sleep, it deals damage to asleep/incap enemies without waking them up and will do an extra stun on the end if you hit them with the final bit of damage while they are incap
This skill need to be reworked, Bucky fail to do the combo a single time in the entire showcase. For it to happen would take a lot of coordination or would happen more in single target solo playing situations.
As the spell pool is right now, there's no reason to pick anything other than full support. Mind the fact that they are lv11 in the stream and u won't have half of this amount of spells available due to skill points, they only had that much cause they showcasin. U can pick Mesmerizing Dance (and I think all Bards will pick) but the Dark Lullaby its not worth the time/risk. U will cast for 4s on a single target (while ur party is dying u are trying to single target stun a incapacitated character and will fail cause probably one of them will hit it with an AOE skill anw). the spell description say the cast time is 3s but in game was 4s with animations. Also the skill does near to none damage at all.
I would make it at least AOE (even if small AOE), or add something else like Life Steal in it (even if the lifesteal procks only on incapacitated targets).
The only other combo is Staggered (u could do it with Discordance) and Disarm (that happens when using Get Off the Stage - the violin skill).
The bard need a lot of work, its great but far from really good. Its just a full support class as the way it is right now, as cool as it could be, it will become boring in late game.
🤓☝ ACKTUALLY
@@kfarbarata Its actually a really powerful skill, you just need land last hit on the target while they are incapped, it doesnt mean you need to be the one who applies the incap. 6 seconds is a very long time espcially with a ttk of 10-15 seconds.
Are we not going to talk about the bards movement spell being a power slide? WOW!
The skill ceiling of the bard class is gonna be so high, you will really feel when a good bard is in your group to, looks awesome
Imagine 2 in the group. Like a bard/summoner(or whatever dps) and bard/cleric synergizing melodies with a tank and 3 dps.
@@anthonyw4722 I wonder if a highly skill bard/cleric augments could solo heal, I know they said they dont wanna design it that way, but I talking about an absolute beast playing it
Dude there's a thing that I dont see ppl commenting or perceiven and thats the amount of skill points. Mind the fact that they are lv 11 in the Stream and u will NOT have near half of the spells they had at that lvl. They edited the character to showcase whats ready. The bard still have 3 skills on wiki that they didnt show, the other sagas and 4 more passives (all on wiki). The bard probably will have to chose some of that and by looking at it do we really think that will be viable to do anything other than full hp/mp support???
I mean, the supportive skills are way better than any debuffs. Do u see urself getting AOE shield (fake hp) or do u see urself getting 25% movspeed bust for 5seconds? There's a song that downs 10% of sorounding enemies damage, do u pick that or do u pick a song that gives ur party 50% lifesteal? Do u see urself giving some single target 10s of 25%aspd or AOE heal over time? Do u get what I mean? ... I don't think they thought that enough. A group doing a raid will not accept bards that focus on disruptive spells. Its a slave supp class right now.
Even if they give u infinite respec for free in a way u could do any build at any time, it will be not worth to pick most of the spells that are debuffs and single target buffs (that happens in ArcheAge for ex, u can respec for lil gold and this still happens), the offensive ones will be a meme too... the AOE maddening dance that suposed to be a offensive skill works better as a defensive skill cause no bard will jump into the adversary mob to prock a skill that make'em the main focus (maddening gives 30% less atkdm debuff on enemies that got Humiliated (after being demoralized by the single target skill) but they do full damage on the caster - that is right next to u dancing his life out- u just need to stun and kill it , it doesnt have any cleanse spell, only way to get out is Flourish - that does not cleanse CC- so, ofensvly will work more on PVE).
@@kfarbarata Gotta remember there is a shitload of pvp and Im referring to that as well, its all speculation at this point obviously and Im just guessing based of my WoW brain which we need to be re-wired for AoC
Reminds me of the Loremaster in LotRO. Not that hard, but interesting at least.
Bard looks great and will make for interesting hybrids
Sucks that it was delayed but makes sense base off other games coming out this year best to avoid other mmo launches or expansion dates
They are strongly pulling from archeage bard. I used to play bard in archeage and i was shocked that they ripped half of the abilities from this game almost exactly and named them the same as well. Definetly looks more fun to play and more cool looking…but damn. Kind of unsettling.
Hopefully the Augments will give us a bit more flavor
The bard made me want to play this game. Because of how absolutely broken it will be in group PVP. Trust me.
@@jb-rx3qd definitely with the ability showcase so far, can't imagine what bard bard will do if the base class is already good
Well the best use will be in group pvp. Just life gear and make him unkillable and then your group has unlimited buffs.
Yeah I noticed that as well. Steven was a huge Archeage fan and he talks about it all the time so it doesn't surprise me but still...
Hope Im going to enjoy this game in my retirement
They did a great job with the animations of the dances, but man overall I just can't shake the "modernity" of it. It feels out of place in the high fantasy setting, just look at those icons straight out of Dance Dance Revolution! lol. Overall a cool bard though, not as cool as Vanguard Saga of Heroes' where you can craft your own songs from scratch, but pretty cool ig
I wish they would make the orc body types look more stylized. They look like humans wearing halloween masks rn
this
Well it’s still in alpha so maybe it’s not a priority, but will eventually get to changing them? At least I hope lol
@@cmoney163 I think we should give feedback/thoughts regardless. Hopefully they do change them ^
Hope so too but we're still early
Which orc are we talking about? The hulking guys or the big orcs? Cause i kinda feel like the silhouettes of both are quite different than humans no?
looks amazing as always, they just cant put out bad looking stuff its all so beautiful my copium is at an all time high
think we might get a good idea how long A2 might be on august16th depending how much of an roadmap they gonna shere we will see how fast they planning on adding content and how much they actually have ready
Good to see diminishing returns debuff, means they actually know they'll have to balance these xD
Feels illegal to be this early
god why is steven's hairline so good
infinite money, infinite hairlines
i'm bald by choice
look at them graphics absolutely ground breaking.
This is like Dark Age of Camelot Bard but upgraded version! I LOVE IT
So they just woke up and decided to design a Bard doing JoJo poses
I really do not mind about delays if it means we will eventually get a better game to enjoy. Mmorpg's are meant to remain as entertainment for years to come, sort of like a life companion. The development of these games usually takes something between 5 to 10 years so I get upset every time some company releases bad game after all those years. For ashes, I am really hoping to see some improvement in spell detailing and other visuals and rather not that flashy ad/hd anime style but more realistic graphics. As this game runs on unreal engine 5, there should be room for great visuals. As it looks now on test videos, they really are not using all that potential but I hope it is because of alpha state. I hope this game will become the next "Wow" and be a success. I am currently playing Eso and as a Wow mythic veteran, I am anxiously waiting the next great mmorpg to fill my life for years to come.
It is immersion breaking that the book instantly disappears during every spell then reappears after
Why is the title the opposite of the content
clickbait sir
@@Narc 😂😂😂
With Firebrand (the Firedragon from the Art Update) being announced to be in the Alpha 2 beginning.. any more copium takes about the biomes that are in?
The picture doesnt look like the riverlands, more Jundark or the grey mountain area north of it..?
Bard looks great, i cant wait for ashes to release in full so i can play my dwarf bard/rogue with my wife and kids in our new home!
To clarify im engaged, and dont even have plot to build on.
Any delay with this game is never unexpected.
who could have guessed. certainly NOT ME.
Cathartic Melody is OP as hell. That's literally the most powerful ability showcased so far, and it's not even augmented. That will literally give out more healing than the Cleric.
Actually replacing Clerics with bards so you can have 100% uptime on that melody already seems like a problem. 25% chance to heal 50% of damage done is just completely bananas.
100%, I'd be surprised if it does not end up with a lot different proc/heal % or have some cooldown timer to it.
I somewhat agree, and wish they used it more in the stream. One thing I disagree on is that tanks don’t seem like they’ll be doing a lot of damage, but they’ll be taking a lot more than what they can heal through this. Clerics might still be needed to pocket the tank, just cause they have access to many more single target heals.
It would be interesting to see this more though, since a party with 100% uptime on cathartic melody would potentially allow clerics to fully spec into single target heal abilities and make them really strong, rather than having to slot some AOE heals as well, just cause the dps classes would be getting so many heals from bard’s melody.
you can even have 2 at one time, either that one and enemies take more dmg or that one and group heals more.
I can't dance and I'm about as musical as a rock. Bard is the class for me 👍
I definitely wont be playing a2 when poe2 is coming in the same month
my dream of an mmo bard turning the mmo into a rhythm game for everyone to use their skills to the beat of the instrument for a buff has once again not been reached :( maybe the next mmo :)
Ah! Ashes of Creation the new Star Citizen in the making!
As its devout herald the masses will demand your head first in a few years!
Jeeesus fucking christ. This is glorious!
A little disappointing but I thought it would be at the end of September anyways but The bard showcase was an absolute W imo. If they treat each class with the same treatment and care they gave the Bard then the copium levels are going to raise to dangerous levels.
The bard still need work but I have to say it, Narc, they are close to do it right! I think is too much support healing focus, right now. I would like to have more builds with bard and that the supp healing would be just one of many we choose. The way is built right now felt that the other options were do not compesate. So a Bard-Mage DPS, Bard-Rogue melee or even focusing only on CC to disrupt enemies does not seem possible or acceptable in detrinment of full supp being way better. Also, there's a bunch of skills that I don't see anyone using at all. That single target that gives aspd... do we really see ppl stop their hp/mp support to single target cast for 4 seconds a skill that last for 10s and doest change that much? Those 2 AOE movspeed skills are near useless in a MMO where every Archetype have blink... anw, they can improve this.
In hindsight the original a2 release date is no beauno. Wonder if big companies are intentionally dropping their games to cast shade on Ashes
Having A2 before GTA6 is wild..
Yeah but when the game actually comes out in full it's gonna be really really good!
Idk ashes already seems outdated
@@pgrow420 in what ways?
@@bigmansam9605 none he is just mad cuz ashes is gonna make his current mmo obselete and all his time in that mmo will be a waste
@@BackPacMan10 so what your saying is that it is big MMO propaganda
@@bigmansam9605 graphics are not the best and besides the “server meshing “ nothing is really new or innovative …same old quest system that’s in every other RPG I was hoping they have pushed the bar a lot more and took bigger risk
everything is going to be one unit later than what they say it is. Q3? actually Q4. October? actually going to be in November. 26th day of the month? actually going to be on the 27th. this is my prediction.
I want to play the bard so bad
Meanwhile they’re releasing more A2 keys at a discount from what people bought them for 5 years ago. How fun.
How dare them make money. Gosh! the audacity
You get a lot of extra stuff besides the A2 access. We only get A2 access. Ofcourse they're not gonna charge 150 or 250 euros for that.
It's probably gonna be around 60 euros if I had to guess and for only access to A2 that seems fair to me
Lol i wont oay 60€ for a fucking Alpha2 Access only and then having to buy thebgame again for Release.
@@yarxul194 I paid 375 USD in 2021 Jan, adjust 5% a year for the past 3 years & they ought to be charging at least 300 if they’re excluding skins. With skins 500 would be reasonable. It’s just disrespectful to early supporters
@@jkpalace4162 it’s not about making money but about early supporters sending 350$ in 2020 & now they’re charging 250. 4-5 years later.
Almost the same as Bards in EverQuest, I'll be bard through out AOC.
we saw mage that wasnt steven im pretty sure
After watching this stream and hearing about the delay.....Last night I had a dream about Steven hiring Mark Jacobs.........
Did the do summoner and i missed it?
i envy every single man who will play this on release :D
If we look at their track record, I believe we can expect another 1-2 year delay in a month or so.
Steven should pay you for constant advertisement of their product XD I would forgot about alpha 2 AoC if not your videos 💥
ps. bard looks sick
Did they mention anything about key releases?
Imma be a bard/cleric combo and buff my warrior gf.
I ignored this video for days because of the title. But then I watched another video where the title was better and figured this title wasn't a good repentance of the video.
I'm sure these are supposed to get clicks, but they also turn off a lot of people. I don't know.
Not to be rude they should drop the subscription and go 30$ and sell cosmetics and expansions...
At this point ashes of creation is becoming an old game that never had an alpha two…
Not a big deal let them cook. It’s not like they will delay things like Star Citizen does. A few extra months to touch up Alpha 2 means it will be better and bigger than if it launched now, right or am I coping?
@sorasabi That's one way of looking at it, he's also on the record repeatedly talking about dates and saying he will always aim for them but if they feel it's not going to be the best then they will delay and push them out. I happen to agree with them on this approach. Judging by the sheer amount of work that's been put into it to date I have high hopes and even higher copium that this will be a MMO to take up years of my time.
@sorasabilol what do you mean "deal with the reality". I'm aware of how long it's taken and how long it will take, my estimate is another 2 years to release.
Your opinion is that "the best thing they can do is go quiet", I'm glad they don't share your opinion mate. The vast majority of other MMOs do exactly that. This is exactly what open development entails, we get to see and provide feedback. You don't like it, then go support another project
@sorasabi Yeah that's my estimate, judging on what's been done so far. The 2 Beta's to come some time next year or the year after up until release. I'll be able to gauge better next livestream when they release the roadmap for Alpha 2, going off that, I can narrow or broaden my estimate.
What's your thoughts on a timeframe and why?
@sorasabi I'm a software Dev myself but in the corporate space. This would be where I disagree with you, respectfully, what I've seen to date shows a core game. The pioneering work in their server meshing and replication layer work shows that they're aiming at exactly what you're talking about, no reliance on client side trust, no bottle knecks on replication that would cause lag and group content friction. All positive, obviously the proof will be in the pudding. Where I do agree with you is a lot of what they've shown is "relatively" easy to do in UE5 but not easy to the scale they have currently. While I am enjoying their open development approach to their game it does come at a significant risk/cost to them as a business. What is to stop Final Fantasy, BDO, New World from stealing their ideas and IP? It would be a lot faster for them to chuck it into their games currently than for Intrepid to release the game. It would probably be shitely implemented but it would ruin the novelty. So I truly believe that Steven and the Intrepid gang are keeping a lot of their cards close to their chest so I'd say a vast amount of the game is there already(inhale copium).
So let's compromise and say 3-4 years 🤣 hope to see you in the world of Vera sooner rather than later chief! Take care!
i never thought i would have intrest in playing the bard but it looks and sounds very fun ngl
Aoc before ww3?
by october the hype will be gone for me, pitty
Where is the live stream vod?
Tank, Hybrid Bard, Support Bard(cathartic), and 3 dps for ezmode. Got it
nice
Btw its Eggs plaining not Egg splaining sheesh :D
It ain’t ever coming out watch I heard about this game 7 years ago
Bard is cool, but that book thing is just distractingly out of place, and I am not sure why the devs doubled down on it.
If they Delay it and what? Is that a problem? Alpha 2 is long run so if they need time to get things right, simply give them that time and dont be horny. They do f big leaps from month to month and we dont see all work done so...
BBC News: Ashes of Creation has been officially declared a meme by the US government's department of social experiments.
After Post Note:
5:51 Dark Lullaby Song puts enemies to sleep when already incapacitated, not just a sleep overall.
Everyone act surprised…k?
Really hope this is not going to be a pull everything an kill it game, thats one of the reasons why I left mmos in the first place
this game is going to be microtransaction heavy, it might not be pay to win but its going to be 100% pay to look good and pay everything else that they can get away with
I feel like a fool. I spent almost 300$ on a game over a year ago l in hopes I could play something by the middle of 2024
Bard looks like a very complex class and damn fun at the same time!
Why does a bard have a magic book and not an instrument?
The instruments aren't fully fleshed out yet so didn't want to show them. They did have the spellbook ready so decided to show that now. A point to remember is any class can use any weapon, however from what I heard previously only the instruments can be used by bards as weapons. I could be wrong here but that's what I think I remember :D
Hey, let them take their time. I am tired of rushed games
Narc is my copium, ashes who?
So, all our wives that play with us have another option to play, instead of just playing Clerics.
Speak for yourself, my wife is gonna play as an Orc warrior while I'm the cute little elf cleric
noice vid
I liked everything until apocalypse. it for me just doesnt fit the class. I would have rather a major buff or multiple buffs all at once instantly. regen mp regen overshield atk up def up aoe multiple debuffs. Doesnt have to last 30 seconds just 15 seconds of max out buff stats. To push through a dps check phase. or that oh shit moment of if this doesnt turn around were doomed.
Releasing in 2030?
Last Archetype reveal?
Where's the Rogue reveal? 💔😭
Last Archetype reveal "before Alpha 2" was what Narc said. As far as I remember they said the Rogue would be introduced during Alpha 2, i.e. November/December timeframe maybe
@@joshuahetherington5161 Thanks - i was so shocked i must've blocked that out 😅😂
we're hoping to get rogue a few months after A2 launch as josh said 🙏
sorry that's dyslexia for you, the actual start of Alpha 2 is january 4202
Great video narc!
So you won't actually have a full game release for two years .. gotcha
lol this game will come out in 2035
Steven does not know how to communicate or he doesn’t care. I’d say the latter
Lots to cover for this showcase. Curious what your thoughts are on the mana management in group combat, to me it needs work. Also, this was showing the updated lighting system which was supposed to show their art direction and style and to me it looks bland.
I was NOT expecting to want to play a Bard. At all. Wow
The most powerful spell is Copium,
It’s been delayed by a couple or a few weeks not that big a deal tbh
@sorasabi okay we’ll I like the look of this game and am following it development and get to choose how I spend my time and money and you just coming on here to troll people is kinda sad 🤷♂️
Immature adults crying over "not having what they want immediatly" but then again, this is the result of TikTok, SnapChat etc. since people cant handle the feeling of being bored. Not only new ones, but the older generations too, are spoiled with constant dopamine episodes
Smart mature adults savor a decade of slow drip dev blog hype instead. Dopamine > Copium
Bro. We are never going to have secondary class Archetypes. The Bard is showing a ton of power creep already. I find it hard to believe adding Cleric or other buffs on to their kit.
Bro Alpha 2 isn't even out yet, they'll balance the numbers. It'll be fine bro
@@joshuahetherington5161 You sound like you are a recent follower. Alpha 2 will be the third public test that A) doesnt have all the base archetypes and B) has no blueprint for the secondaries.
They should be thinking of how you can mod these powers, which means they would need mod themes, which can only happen if the archetypes are fleshed out. If they run into a snag with mods AFTER they complete all of the powers, then they will need to either scrap the mod system or redo the powers. It isnt looking great on that front. You would have to hope that they will somehow not run into regular coding fuck-ups.
@@cmike123 nah I've been following for quite a few years. There's a few things at play here, in my opinion:
- a balance on what to show the players and what to hold back so the game is not completely revealed prior to launch.
- alpha 2 will also run for quite a while and there's a roadmap coming soon to explain what's going to be shown when, I would imagine the augments will be in this roadmap
- the points you made originally saying it's already overpowered is very premature, they only just showed the class 😂 there will be heavy adjustments but those adjustments will only need to be numbers really
- I agree with your point about a worry of classes becoming obsolete for sure but that will come down to balancing, i.e. is it better to have 2 clerics than a bard and a cleric for healing? Is it better to have 2 dps or a bard and a dps? In party compositions.
Looks like an updated and modern EQ bard. I like it.
LMAO "The Final Alpha 2 Reveal is Upon us" next video "We Just Got Unfortunate News About Alpha 2"
Bard looks great, gave me some DAoC Bards/Minstrels vibe.
I am still not overly excited by character movement/animations as yet, but given its not remotely close to release those areas may improve. World looks amazing though.
Intrepid is edging the copium addicts pretty hard.