Thank you for this. I heard it said in a service by two pastors, "we don't really die, we just go to one place or the other." I have often wanted to revisit them and ask them who is it then that lied: God? when He said, the soul that sinneth it shall die" , or the serpent who said, "you shall not surely die." It really is that simple.
"And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell." (Matt. 10:28 KJV)
living water surprised he didn't touch on that scripture as it is the clearest description of his argument in my opinion. There are dozens more which confirm that the soul is created and can be destoyed.
@@richardmitchell409 Body is Body Soul is the Life that God gave the Body to be alive.. Soul returns to God when we die , but you as a human /person are completely dead. Thats why at the first/second Resurection God brings everyone to LiFE AGAIN.
@@richardmitchell409 Jesus literally distinguished the difference. The soul is not "immortal". It's destiny is, as Jesus stated, in the hands of God. Man's autonomy ends in this body. The soul is God's. There isn't much coverage of this in The Word, but I can't help but wonder how we go from one body to a glorified body at resurrection. Jesus had no loss of memory when he was raised. Could it be that the soul is the "essence" (for lack of a better word) of man that God maintains and imparts in the vessel of his choosing? Who knows? Confusing these biblically derivative ideas with preexistence doesn't really help the conversation.
Zero Curvature as opposed to what? Yes, it's possible that Lex had help if that's what you mean. But someone(s) took a lot of care in finding the passages and information for this video.
I think we really need to make a distinction between "soul" and "spirit", or at least make sure that people understand that there are two very different concepts that are often translated as "soul" in English Bibles. The spirit (ruach or neshamah) is the incorporeal part of a person that continues to live in after the body dies. People have a spirit, while animals do not. The soul (nephesh) is the whole package of a living being. People *are* souls made up, in part, of spirits and bodies. Unfortunately, many Bibles and English speakers use these terms interchangeably and this is an enormous barrier to understanding what the Bible really says about our nature. People and animals are both nephesh or living souls.
You got the part right about nephesh, but nowhere does it say our spirit lives forever. The spirit is the breath of God that gives us life. It returns to God when we die. Spirit can also refer to our temperament or drive. Ie you can have an angry, generous or gentle spirit. Your spirit can also be broken. Something much deeper than a broken heart. But nowhere is it indicated that it's some conscious being that can exist outside the body.
That's exactly why we need to study the Bible because that's how God speaks to us, & stop asking the creation for info & start asking the creator God for info by reading his word, AKA the Bible
The ancient Israeli word for "soul" is "nephish". It also means "life". Therefore, "life" and "soul" are synonymous. Where is the nephish (life/soul) located? Genesis 9:4 - "But you shall not eat flesh with its life, that is, its blood." Leviticus 17:11 - "For the life of the flesh is in the blood, and I have given it to you upon the altar to make atonement for your souls; for it is the blood that makes atonement for the soul." Animals also have the breath of life, aka, nephish/life/soul. Where is the nephish/life/soul? In the blood. Our life force is in our blood. Genesis 2:7 - "And the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life (soul/nephish); and man became a living being (life/soul/nephish)." We are a soul, life, nephish. The life force, soul force, nephish force resides in the blood. I challenge anyone to show me Scripture that says we have an immortal, independent soul, life, nephish like a ghost that exists apart from the body.
I think what they are saying is that we didn’t exist for eternity prior to conception but now that we exist, starting from conception we exist on earth and then will exist forever either in the lake of fire or in heaven.
It frustrates me to no end how much of the Bible has been perverted by the catholic church. We hold so many things as Christian truth that are simply lies. Thanks for your hard work. I just wish that I could convince my mother to unlearn the lies.
Satan’s greatest ambassadors are not pimps, politicians, or power-brokers, but pastors. His priests do not peddle a different religion, but a deadly perversion of the true one. His troops do not make a full-out frontal assault, but work as agents, sneaking into the opposing army. Satan’s tactics are studied, clever, predictable, effective. Therefore, we must always remain vigilant. “Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing but inwardly are ravenous wolves. You will recognize them by their fruits” (Matthew 7:15-16a).
Yes, we do, the soul does live on just like God promised, the soul is alive and living only the flesh dies in a physical death. we have proof, God can do anything and God has sent down his angel for a powerful mission. to let you all know our soul is alive and living, have a blessed day.
In all seriousness how can Luke 16:22 be interpreted if when the body is dead the soul is also 22“Finally, the poor man died and was carried by the angels to sit beside Abraham at the heavenly banquet. The rich man also died and was buried, 23and he went to the place of the dead. There, in torment, he saw Abraham in the far distance with Lazarus at his side.
@@Στεφανος-κ7υ unlike some of the other stories that said they were parables, this story is very different. It not only names Lazarus by name it refers to Abraham by name and the prophets. Even if it was a parable, they are all actually based on true events that happens in reality to show how the kingdom of God operates, thus making it true anyway. Otherwise you're saying that what Jesus stated were the words of Abraham were made up, or a lie!
@@moremusic868 the souls of dead people are not sleep as some my say, they have some kind of consciousness, but no contact and awareness of the living world as they wait for Judgment day.
@@ctglenn1 you are right on 98% of what you say. The only thing I help you with is that the dead souls are indeed sleeping. Just not the sense of sleep that the world defines as sleep. Read John 11:11-14 and 1 Thessalonians 4:13-17. Continue in the faith and allow your light to shine bright! Peace and love to you! ✌❤
I was raised evangelical but just recently started to walk with Christ... I JUST started to learn the Bible on my own and Your channel has helped me to understand a lot of things that are confusing to me. But unlearn this about hell has been hard... what about the people who say they’ve had near death experience and got to see/feel what eternal hell will be like... Was it a dream? Did they imagine it?
The medical field can explain this. When someone is asphyxiating. Aka. Not getting enough oxygen, that is a euphoric experience, and most people just see bright light and like tunnel vision and hallucinate.
No and neither did the rich man Lazarus. Eternal seperation from God will put us face to face with torment and its best described as getting burned "metaforically" speaking, however it is a place just as Jesus described. But, it wont be permanent its a time of reaping and trying to exist on the fruit of what we have sown. At judgement they become alive again body and soul " breath" will stand before the throne and given the sentence real death" they will cease to exist consumed by the lake of fire. P. S. Adam and Eve did not die on the very day they ate the fruit but on the very day they surely lost access to the tree of life and the garden that housed it.
Thanks very informative, it so crucial to Christ's message to understand this. John 3:16 says who so ever believes in him has eternal life. Yet many churches teach that we are saved by works, good deeds and conduct. Whilst these things are important it's good to know that we are saved not by them but by grace. Eternal life is a gift of a loving God and all we have to do is believe in him. Thanks so much for sharing this.
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Good works come after grace of the life, death and resurrection of Jesus, when we are regenerated, new creatures in Christ by the renewing of our mind.
Ecclesiastes 3: 11 says he has made everything beautiful in its time. Also he has put eternity in their hearts, except that no one can find out the work that God does from beginning to end.
“And it came to pass, as her soul was in departing, (for she died) that she called his name Ben-oni: but his father called him Benjamin.” Genesis 35:18 , how do you explain this
I agree, thanks. The best definition of “soul”, is it is, vitality! Just like an electric appliance, you apply (breathe) voltage and it receives “vitality”. The Holy Spirit shall revitalize Christians at the resurrection along with a new body. Praise God!
I needed this...I was reading about this day before and it left me very depressed because some churches say hell is eternal and some say it isnt. I only want to know the truth. Both arguements seem to have verses in Bible in agreement. And there are people who claim to go to hell and see demons tormenting people which i dont understand if hell is the demons punishment too. Why would God allow them to have the pleasure of what they already been doing against him for our very begginning.
Isaiah 53:5, But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes, we are healed. For salvation, people just need to follow the way they did it in Acts? They were baptized in the water and of the spirit. Here's why! The gospel is the death, burial, and resurrection of Jesus Christ. If we are to follow him, we must do the same thing. Death= repentance, Burial = baptism, and resurrection = being filled with the Holy Ghost and rising again from the dead. That's what Acts 2:38 is. We must obey the gospel, 2 Thessalonians 1:8-9, in flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that OBEY NOT THE GOSPEL of our Lord Jesus Christ... Matthew 7:21-23, Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that DOETH THE WILL OF MY FATHER which is in Heaven. St John 3:3-5, EXCEPT a man be born of WATER AND OF THE SPIRIT, he cannot enter into the kingdom of GOD. We can't come up with our own gospel. Galatians 1:8-9, But though we or an angel from heaven preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. Don't be cursed. One way for all people. Jews, Gentiles, and Samaritan. Our salvation has to match-up with the scriptures and no scriptures on the subject can be taken away. Eternity is TOOO long to be WRONG! st, John 5:39, Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me. God told Noah exactly how to be saved, how he must build the ark. Noah didn't come up with his own plan like people are doing today. A sinner's prayer, you just have to believe, etc which is not in the bible. The gospels show what Christ has done on the cross for us. The book of Acts shows us the beginning of Christ's Church and how to enter the Church, obeying Acts 2:38. The letters were written to the Church to show us how to behave now that we are born again into the Church. It's better to walk alone than to walk with a crowd going in the wrong direction. Are we supposed to follow the teachings of the apostles? Acts 2:42, They continued steadfastly in the apostle's doctrines. Ephesians 2:20, We are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief cornerstone. Jesus Christ truly loves you. Do you truly love him? If you believe in this message, help spread it in the name of Jesus Christ. God bless you!
We have a problem. The Bible says that an evil soul will be tormented for eternity in the lake of fire, pretty sure you would have to be alive for that. True death is separation from god the Bible says, but it makes it clear that you would be in torment
Luke 19 19 And I will say to my soul, Soul, thou hast much goods laid up for many years; take thine ease, eat, drink, and be merry. 20 But God said unto him, Thou fool, this night thy soul shall be required of thee: then whose shall those things be, which thou hast provided?
Believing that we have an immortal soul is why people think that God will torment the unsaved in flames for all eternity. Hard to wrap your head around our loving God torturing billions if not trillions of unsaved people forever and ever. I’ve wrestled with the thought of that for years. Scariest thought anyone could imagine 😬
This man speaks truth. I have studied this topic for years and was brought up on the lies passed down through generations that we die and yet live either in heaven or hell but when I dove into the bible and studied these things, It became clear that we have been taught false doctrines for centuries. But we can learn the truth once we let go of these teachings and as Lex says " Unlearn the lies ".
TruthHunter what about this scripture? “For this perishable must put on the imperishable, and this mortal must put on immortality.” 1 Corinthians 15:53 Am I missing something?
Charlatans, Both of you! Believe GOD not the words of men wise in there own deceit. Paul said to be absent from the body is to be present with the Lord. Paul's body of flesh died. Christ taught about Hell and damnation in eternal fire. you cannot say you know anything of GOD or the truth. Jesus said I prepare a place for you. If it were not true I would have told you. You both call Christ a Liar.
@@amtrlt It would seem we are with our body (or what's left of the bits and pieces that God can put back together. Maybe we are of it in it's vibrations as matter and what energy lies within) until we are absent of it and then with God in the place that was prepared. I'm not sure any of this pertains to what happens to us immediately after dying. Perhaps there's more in the context and with more pin point translation. Idk much of the Bible, nor can I remember things too well, but when it comes to what you just said, that's what I'd assume, just a disclaimer.
I would recommend everybody go to some one else for there understanding, the bible first, this guy knows nothing and what he professes to know are deceiving blather.
Larry, Our Lord stayed three days and three nights buried like he said he would after being crucified. When Mary and the other women saw him early on the first day of the week after he had risen she tried to touch him and he forbade her because like he said he hadn't ascended as yet to his father. How then did the thief join him in paradise immediately after death? I know the placing of the coma in that scripture could connote the meaning you are ascribing to but the Bible does not support that doctrine of going anywhere but the grave after death. 1 Thessalonians 4:16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: 17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. On that day the Lord will not be returning to earth with any person who died and went to heaven, they will in the grave or wherever their ashes were thrown and those alive on earth will join them to meet the Lord.
@@bestcoursesonlinecura7644 That's right commas didn't even exist. And like Joel said above he didn't accend yet to heaven that day anyway so it couldn't have meant "today" literally.
@@michellemoffett9458 Jesus told him that day (today) that he will be (future time ) with him in paradise . The New Earth is called paradise and Heaven is the place where the Father is . We will never be where the Father is . We will be with Jesus on the New Earth !
I used to be a Jehovahs Witness and we believed what you are teaching about the soul as well, i dont agree with all your teachings but i do believe that Jesus is our savior and that God his Father sent him.
The false teaching (which is becoming very popular at the moment) that after the Great White Throne judgement, those that are cast into the lake of fire will cease to exist.
He meant exactly what he said. He desired to leave and be with the Lord, something he understood to be immediate. Where the understanding gets lost is Paul is talking about what comes out of the body upon death, but every soul sleep believer will take you to scriptures talking about the body. The topic is not the body but what comes out of the body.
Jeff Lewis according to this video the souls and bodies are one...they don’t separate . This leaves me with questions about the “new bodies” we receive will they be with new souls? And then also maybe Paul was talking about the Spirit being present, or the breath of life
nephesh is the Hebrew word for soul. By definition is it you and I. The soul is the body. Nephesh is our body, our whole being. Our nephesh die because our spirits which is the breath our creator blow into us slowly fade away.
@@SaikoBlkBunny The SPIRIT returns back to God who gave it.The soul is the person or body and perishes at death.We return back to dust from whence we came. The dead know nothing and sleep until Jesus returns where all will be judged and the resurrection takes place.Until then the dead know nothing.The Kingdom Of God will be established on EARTH and not in heaven.Jesus will sit on the throne of David in Jerusalem .The Bible tells is this .
@@feeltheforce10 why can't people see that. There is no such thing as an immortal Soul. Our Body is the Soul. The real us. When we die the Soul which is our body dies.
@@rasheealli It seems not many people want to take time to learn what scripture says - they prefer to make their own ideas up and listen to false preachers who also preach lies that the soul is immortal.Brainwashing and conditioning with false ideas.
So, how was the blood of Able (his soul) crying out to God? What sits and waits in shoul for judgement? How does God hate some before they were ever born? How can someone be raised from the dead? How could the dead cry out to God for justice in the end of days? You could be right, but this makes no sense to me. It doesn't seem to fit. Which makes me believe it's not correct. Too many things seem to contradict this idea. Can you explain this? Thank you, in advance.
Even Irenaeus (among many others) who once was a proponent of the doctrine of the immortality of the soul, later on rescinded his understanding once he learned of the truth regarding man's conditional immortality which IS indeed mortality.
I once preached a sermon that stated those without Christ will be consumed in the Gehenna Fire and body and soul will be gone. Only those with Christ will live eternally with him. He alone grants this and anyone who believes otherwise are lost to the truth of Jesus. People did not like it because they thought God will forgive everyone and all will be in Heaven. I told them the Bible does not state that.
Thank you Lex. I agree with you 100%. Man does not "have" a soul but rather "is" a soul, a mortal soul. At Ecclesiastes 9:5 for example, Solomon said, "For the living know that they will die but the dead know nothing". A person in effect ceases to exist after death. Our real hope for life after death is The Resurrection.
Sandy..what about those in Rev.6 that were beheaded during Tribulation & r mentioned in heaven speaking w the Lord. How could this be?if they died why aren't they just sleeping in the grave? I am confused
Sandra Heinz Your absolutely correct, but the soul sleep believer will change what the text says eventhough Revelation 4 starts off with what John saw in Heaven. This topic is so deep. Lots of people have just never studied it. You'd be amazed at how many intelligent people will tell you not to look up words or read other books on the matter. The funny thing is, the bible says everything the definitions and other books say.
e 2.7182818284590 I wouldn't say the dead cease to exist, perhaps a better way to put it is as the proverb says, they don't have a portion anymore under the sun and their spirit is not somewhere else engaged in various activities. Their spirit/uncousious soul returns to God who gave it. This is what will return to the dead at the resurrection. However, this does not mean that the soul is immortal.
"...the truth shall set you free" A-men, A-men, A-men! Learning SO much from you, brother! Growing up in Baptist, then Charismastic & other protestant churches, that never quite made sense, or left unknowns in Yah's loving promises of the whole scripture, there was so much before that is becoming more & more clear. I just need to study, to learn scriptures better so as to truky share the Gospel measage I too am excitedly learning truly all a new now at the middle of my life.
The Word of God is very simple to understand, but when something is too simple the majority of people turns to complicate it. God never intended his children to be unclear about the Word at any point in their lives. The children of God are supposed to have the light of life because they follow Christ (John 8:12). But it is sad that too many Christians around the world don't really understand the Word of God and they err (James 1:16, James 5:19 and Matthew 22:29). And because they do not understand the Word of God, the enemy takes advantage of them, and they are taken captive at the devil's will (2Tim 2:26). Love from South Africa
Martin Luther said: "In the sleep of death there is complete unconsciousness and complete unawareness of the condition of death and the passage of time."
I would say that the first death is death for material beings and that the second death can kill even immortal beings like satan himself who received immortality from God when he was still in the third heaven. Btw did you know that satan is still in heaven? Not the third heaven but the second one... But John saw that in the last days, he will be thrown to the earth. ANd also if you ever wondered why Michael didn't slander satan its because even though he sinned against God , he still has heavenly nature. It is clear that just like David was merciful upon Absalom because he had royal blood so too God pitied satan because he used to dwell in heaven and has a heavenly nature. Interesting things... It seems to me tho that John foresaw a second exodus by the hand of God through the two witnesses but I am not sure...
So if death in this explaination is being totally unawareness/unconsciousness, then this death would have to apply to Messiah. So if that is the case, and there is non-conscienceness in death, then Yeshua(Jesus) would disqualify Himself as the Messiah since He made a false statement about resurrecting Himself. He cannot resurrect Himself if He is nonconsciences/unwareness state. That also would mean that when He was resurrected He would have to be reborn since there was no life in Him when he was dead in the tomb.. By the way if the Son of Elohim was completely death then Elohim would stop to exist because Elohim is one. SO DID MESSIAH DIED A DIFFERENT TYPE OF DEATH, DEATH IS DEATH ACCORDING TO SCRIPTURES?
Well all of us know what its like. Have you ever slept whats called rem sleep? That's how the first death feels like... The second death on the other hand is fully ceasing to exist.
““There was a rich man who was dressed in purple and fine linen and lived in luxury every day. At his gate was laid a beggar named Lazarus, covered with sores and longing to eat what fell from the rich man’s table. Even the dogs came and licked his sores. “The time came when the beggar died and the angels carried him to Abraham’s side. The rich man also died and was buried. In Hades, where he was in torment, he looked up and saw Abraham far away, with Lazarus by his side. So he called to him, ‘Father Abraham, have pity on me and send Lazarus to dip the tip of his finger in water and cool my tongue, because I am in agony in this fire.’ “But Abraham replied, ‘Son, remember that in your lifetime you received your good things, while Lazarus received bad things, but now he is comforted here and you are in agony. And besides all this, between us and you a great chasm has been set in place, so that those who want to go from here to you cannot, nor can anyone cross over from there to us.’ “He answered, ‘Then I beg you, father, send Lazarus to my family, for I have five brothers. Let him warn them, so that they will not also come to this place of torment.’ “Abraham replied, ‘They have Moses and the Prophets; let them listen to them.’ “ ‘No, father Abraham,’ he said, ‘but if someone from the dead goes to them, they will repent.’ “He said to him, ‘If they do not listen to Moses and the Prophets, they will not be convinced even if someone rises from the dead.’ ”” Luke 16:19-31 NIV
.. Jesus said if you keep my father's commandments through me you shall live again through me you shall have eternal life. John 3:16 for God so loved the world he gave his only son whosoever believeth in him shall not perish but have eternal life !!
THE BEARDED GUY IS NOT TELLING YOU WHERE IT SAYS THAT JESUS IS THE FIRST BORN OF MANY BROTHERS. JESUS IS OUR BROTHER AND WE WILL LOOK LIKE HIM AND RULE THE UNIVERSE WITH HIM. Heb 2:7 Thou made him a little lower than the angels and set him over the works of thy hands: Ro 8:29 For we are to be conformed to the image of his Son, that Jesus might be the firstborn among many brethren
Really important topic you talk about here Lex, and thank you for sharing! I've really waited and have been looking forward to when you would bring this up! When I studied theology this was beyond doubt the most interesting topic - the theology of the nature of mankind. I'm always astonished by what believers say about us humans and our nature (all kinds of crazy stuff) and that they do not realize the foundational implications it has on who Jesus is.
Proverbs 8:22-23 "The LORD possessed me at the beginning of His way, Before His works of old. I have been established from everlasting, From the beginning, before there was ever an earth.
@pedro dasilva The proverbs were collected by Solomon with input from the scribes of the king Hezekiah... predates Christ and where does this chapter/scripture mention the messiah ?? @@pedro dasilva
@@forranach Correct, the Messiah wasn't "Created" these verses are Solomon speaking to God. It's a valid verse to introduce to think more deeply on the subject.
Totally agree up to 11:20. That's where i stopped. The bible explicitly states *THE SOUL THAT SINS, IT SHALL DIE.* Clearly lotsa Christians simply ignore that verse. Also somewhere in Job it states *THERE IS A SPIRIT IN MAN.* And in another verse it states *THE SPIRIT RETURNS WHENCE IT CAME.* But nowhere does it say the spirit is a soul or that the spirit contains the personality or the consciousness of the individual. In fact it says *THE DEAD KNOW NOT ANY THING.* Clearly the dead are completely unconscious. Many thanks. Maybe i'll listen more later.
Thank you, Lee, for clarifying that. The immortality of men's soul has been such a controversy I assume for centuries. At least it has been in my Christian Life amongst the Believers I don't know why I never got that wrong. It's so obvious we're not immortal otherwise why would Adam and Eve be exiled and not be allowed to eat from the Tree of Life for fear they may live forever in sin.
And the LORD said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years. NKJV And the LORD said, “My Spirit shall not strive with man forever, for he is indeed flesh; yet his days shall be one hundred and twenty years.” NASB Then the LORD said, “My Spirit shall not strive with man forever, because he also is flesh; nevertheless his days shall be one hundred and twenty years.” NLT Then the LORD said, “My Spirit will not put up with humans for such a long time, for they are only mortal flesh. In the future, their normal lifespan will be no more than 120 years.” ASV And Jehovah said, My Spirit shall not strive with man for ever, for that he also is flesh: yet shall his days be a hundred and twenty years. DBY And Jehovah said, My Spirit shall not always plead with Man; for he indeed is flesh; but his days shall be a hundred and twenty years. HNV The LORD said, "My Spirit will not strive with man forever, because he also is flesh; yet will his days be one hundred twenty years." RSV Then the LORD said, "My spirit shall not abide in man for ever, for he is flesh, but his days shall be a hundred and twenty years." VUL dixitque Deus non permanebit spiritus meus in homine in aeternum quia caro est eruntque dies illius centum viginti annorum WEB And the LORD said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be a hundred and twenty years. YLT And Jehovah saith, 'My Spirit doth not strive in man -- to the age; in their erring they are flesh:' and his days have been an hundred and twenty years. NIV Then the LORD said, “My Spirit will not contend with humans forever, for they are mortal; their days will be a hundred and twenty years.” Just says man . The context is simple. Its just referring to after the fall . Death came after the fall . They lived longer at the beginning but because of mercey the age gets shorter .
I think the 120 years was when the flood came...... because 500 years later Abraham lived to 175... and many in between the flood and Abraham lived much much longer rough avg. 300 + years
This is giving me a lot to dig into, I appreciate this channel and the approach/perspective outside of the Western Church structured teachings. I am struggling to reconcile this idea of the soul. Scriptures I have found that have me questioning are: Romans-8:29, Galatians-1:15. 1 Peter-1:20, Jeremiah-1:5 and Isaiah-44:24. These scriptures indicate God knew men before being born. I understand God it outside space and time as He is omnipresent. I'm wondering if the soul he creates at conception would not have already been in some form of existence in that place outside of space and time to know any before being formed.
There is a certain mindset that God wants us to have as his children. There is a mindset for the righteous (Luke 1:17), for the elect (those who are born again); this mindset the world cannot have it, you can only have this mindset through a certain understanding of the Word of God. Some people say there are different interpretations of the Word; well that is actually a lie from the pit of hell. There are no different interpretations; the Word means exactly what is written.
I was a pentecostal I had my. Doubts about the eternal soul. 1cor15 the first Adam was a natural man. Not natural and spiritual. Ecc. Says the dead cannot praise him.. In Timothy it says immortality and life came through the gospel. May God glve understanding in this.
Based on facts not mans traditions or emotional speculation and proof texts. Well done sir. This dangerous doctrine fuels so many other misunderstandings and denies the resurrection. Not only taught by Catholics but the high majority of christian-like denominations.
Very simple , just go to Genesis man was formed with sand or clay and after God breath the breath of life into his nostril and he became being simple , and Isaiah said after death your spirit or the breath goes to the one givers that means to God simple so (sand or body or clay plus breath is equal to soul ) so HE said the soul that sinned shall die . So what is left??????
Soul = being Spirit = disposition We don’t have a soul (being), but we ARE a soul (being). The state of our being (soul) can be characterized by our disposition (spirit).
When Jesus is hanging on the cross, one of the two criminals hanging there says, "remember me when you enter your kingdom." Jesus says, today you will be with me in paradise." Not sure if Jesus says "today" but I'm curious what your take is on that since the dead will sleep until judgement day.
A Manual For Misfits some men throughout the Bible went to be with Yah like Enoch. Not all men have died or slept until the resurrection. At least that’s what I have derived from what I’ve read
There is no comma in Hebrew texts. So the translators put it where they wanted it. So "I tell you the truth today, you WILL be with me in paradise." Is very different than "I tell you the truth, TODAY you will be with me in paradise" Jesus, after he was resurrected, told Mary not to touch him as he hadn't gone to the father yet. Jesus was dead those three days. He was in the grave. The Holy Spirit had to raise him up,he wasn't conscious or able to raise himself. He had not gone to heaven yet. So clearly he could not have been with the thrief in paradise THAT day. The first version is in line with scripture and not the second.
It seems the main question Christians have is there consciousness after we die? There are some confusing statements about this,; like when Jesus said, " he that liveth and belieth in me shall never die". Yet, almost all the other scriptures make it clear that the person who dies no longer is aware of anything happening in world or any other until the resurrection from the dead.
Without a doubt the human soul is immortal. This is clearly seen in many Scriptures in both Old and New Testament : Psalms 22:6, 49:7-8, Ecclesiastes 12:7, Dan.12:2-3, Matt.25:46 and 1Cor.15:12-19. Dan.12:2 says multitudes who sleep in the dust of the earth will awake, some to everlasting life, others to shame and everlasting contempt. Jesus Himself said that the wicked will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life Matt25:46. While all souls are immortal, it is important to remember that we are not eternal in the same way that God is. God is immortal but God has always existed. Our souls are immortal but had a beginning. Our souls will live forever once we come into being, the Bible does not support the concept that our souls have always existed. God created our souls. How can anyone read that and say that the soul is not immortal ? Heaven is forever and The Lake of Fire is also forever.
@@timstanford995 1 Tim.4:10 "because we trust in the living God, who is the Saviour of all men, specially of those that believe". That's telling us that when Christ died He made atonement sufficient for the whole world. He is the Deliverer , the preserver of all mankind, but the Saviour from sin of those who believe. This does not teach universalism, that all will be saved because in Matt.7:23 we find Him saying "Depart from Me, I never knew you".
@@jjsam5375 I reject Universalism just like you. Brother, I myself picked up the wrong verse, forgive me for that, I meant 1 Timothy 6:16: "who only hath immortality, dwelling in the light which no man can approach unto; whom no man hath seen, nor can see: to whom be honour and power everlasting. Amen."
@@timstanford995 I have done that to, think a certain verse and type something else. In 1 Tim.6:14 it tells us we're talking about Our Lord Jesus Christ. verse 15 says which in His times, He is going to show this old world who is boss, who is the only Potentate (Potentate meaning Ruler, Sovereign, One who wields Great Power ), The King of kings and Lord of lords. verse 16 says "who only" meaning Him only, hath immortality dwelling in the light which no man can approach ….. this expresses uniqueness. Jesus in no uncertain terms is equated with God Himself in this verse. Man is immortal, but not in the same way that God, Jesus and the Holy Spirit are immortal. God, Jesus and the Holy Spirit have always been, they never had a beginning or an end. They are unique. Man was created by God before the foundation of the world Eph. 1:4. We had a beginning, but will not end. Eph.1:4 tells us of Predestination.
“I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High.” Psalms 82:6 “Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods?” John 10:34 It is one thing to think something it is another to teach it.
Being called an elohim does not make you The Most High God who only has immortality. Even fallen angels are called elohim in the Bible. In it's broadest sense elohim is just someone with an exalted position. But there is only one MOST HIGH GOD. So no, being called an elohim does not mean you are immortal. Not even close.
Hey Lex! I agree with your teaching about this subject and many others. I only have one problem and cannot fully understand this in the context of the soul not being immortal. I am talking about 1 Samuel chapter 28 starting with vers 7. I am pretty sure that the problem is not with the Scripure but instead it’s my problem of understanding this. So if you could share your knowledge in this matter that would be much appreciated. Thank you!
Great question. Notice verse 14 says that Saul "PERCEIVED that it was Samuel". It wasn't really Samuel because Samuel was and is asleep in the grave awaiting the Resurrection. This was a demonic spirit(fallen angel) impersonating Samuel. This is why several times in Scripture God condemns attempting to speak with the dead(Deuteronomy 18). Those who do this are speaking with demonic beings. I pray this answers your question. God bless!
@@jonathanhinkle2495 Thank you for your answers. Vers 15 says: "Samuel spoke to Saul...." Pretty sure that was Samuel. I can tell that only by the description told by the witch. Also, Abraham is also asleep awaiting the "Day of The Lord" but he is also "active" and speaks to the rich man in Luke 16:19-31. Before you say that's a parable, I don't think it is. That would be the first parable that mentions a name- Lazarus, who I think he actually lived and died and it's now with Abraham.
Sounds to me like the woman was able to contact Samuel while he was dead or asleep waiting for the resurrection of Christ. He didn’t seem happy to be taken from his rest. Bible teaches we die, sleep, wait, rise again with a new body and immortality to be with the Lord forever after that. Samuel had to be awaken and put back to rest. Just my opinion. ❤
The timing of my coming across this was amazing. I had just read a Chabad notice which stated in part: “The Yahrtzeit of a Tzaddik (anniversary of the death of a righteous man) is a time for personal reflection, and an opportunity to bond with the Tzaddik's soul so that it will intercede on our behalf in Heaven.” I was very surprised to hear this said by a Jewish organization. Obviously some Jews do believe in the Roman Catholic/HaSatan’s teaching of the immortality of the soul. It is possibly a teaching of Kabbalah and certainly not Torah.
You said "The Bible should be our source of doctrines and not assumptions and philosophies of men." yet the evidences you gave did not come from the bible. They are "assumptions and philosophies of men" like encyclopedias, to name some.
Many people don't know the difference between soul and spirit. That is why there is so much confusion. It is the spirit which is eternal. But there is a difference between a quickened spirit and a dead spirit. That is what decides where one goes in the afterlife: heaven or hell. The soul can be lost (Matt 16:26, Mark 8:36), can be destroyed (Matt 10:28, Luke 12:5) When Adam sinned it was his spirit which died. But "died" is not the same as "disappeared". Angels are spirits. But there are also fallen angels, which, have lost their relationship with God. That doesn't mean that they have disappeared. The spirit is the divine nature, is God's nature. A born again Christian has God's nature. Soul, in the Bible, it has to do with "this life", natural life, human life, the human person, self, mind, will, emotions. the quickened human spirit, has its own capabilities: it can know, it can talk, it can see etc But, we are so used to using our soul power even in our relationship with God, that we make no spiritual progress. We even try to understand God, faith and all spiritual matters with our human mind, instead of our spirit. (That is why the spiritual things are hidden from the wise; Mat 11:25, Luke 10:21). We have to withdraw from our mind. And focus on our spirit, where God dwells. The Word of God ... is piercing even to the dividing of soul and spirit. Heb 4:12 The Word of God shows us what is of the soul and what is of the spirit. We only need to "just believe" the Word of God in our spirit. For example, we only need to believe that we are in His presence, not try to think with our mind: "what should I say?", "what will I feel?", "what should I think?" etc. But we have developed this habit to use our (human) mind. For those who want to grow spiritually, I recommend "Experiencing the depths of Jesus Christ" by Madame Jeanne Guyon.
I think a lot of people are confused, however, remember, this is not a salvation issue, but we all are trying to figure it out......we will all know when we cross to the other side. Pray for understanding and discernment!
I tell this to people all the time, but they'd rather argue. So long as we agree that Christ is the only path to salvation, then we are brothers and sisters in His name.
tbirdsong1 well these are saying if we aren't saved then we are destroyed. I don't believe God destroys anyone. The cross of Christ took care of sin in full! The "destruction" is of our body in the grave. This is a bogus video.
I am a little confused. So if our consciousnesses is asleep and not self aware after death then why would God resurrect unbelievers only to destroy them again at the final judgement, the second death?
Yahushua is the gate. the commands are the narrow path we must walk on 2tim3:15-17 the law can make you wise for salvation. phil. 2:12 work out your salvation with fear and trembling. salvation is a process. turning away from lawlessness and starting to obey YAHUAH again. matthew 19:16-17. 1 John 1:7 But if we walk in the light/law, as he is in the light/law, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Yahushua Messiah his Son cleanseth us from all sin/lawlessness.
The combination of the body and the spirit is the soul. You are having a problem with terminology. You're also having a problem a physics, if a spirit is a form of energy, and we know that mass and energy are fundamentally the same thing at different frequencies. Then we do have a body that lives on after death. Plus you are predicating your argument on the an English text of Genesis, not on Hebrew. The fundamental understanding that the spirit was infused into the man after creation is sound.
Robert Fustin all the soul is; is the earthly living body; actually our earthly identity.. its not the spirit included. The spirit lives on. The body/soul dies. The body is changed and brought back to life.
Lex you need to look at scripture a bit closer before you make your claims....First thing stick with the Bible and forget wasting time what are religions believe. The Soul is immortal....The Bible tells us so. The scriptures to look at (Luke 23:43) Jesus said to the thief on the cross beside Him "Jesus answered him, "Truly I tell you, today you will be with me in paradise." Jesus spoke of the richman in hell and Lazarus with Abraham in Paradise two real places (Luke 16:19-31) How about the mount of transfiguration where Moses and Elijah, talking with Jesus (Matthew 17:1-3) How about the souls under the altar in heaven read (Revelation 6:9) How about the multitude of people in heaven standing before the throne of God (Revelation 7:9 ) Jesus also spoke of hell where the worm never dies (Mark 9:48) also look at (Luke 13:28) There shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth, when ye shall see Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, and all the prophets, in the kingdom of God, and you yourselves thrust out.....Yes the soul is immortal...it will end up in either one of two places...(2 Corinthians 5:8) To be absent from the body is to be present with the Lord ...but you still don't see that.... Also God knows you before you were born (Jeremiah 1:5) Before I formed thee in the belly I knew thee; and before thou camest forth out of the womb I sanctified thee, and I ordained thee a prophet unto the nations. You need to also understand our Carnal thinking and understanding cannot comprend the ways of God. This is what the Lord says..Isaiah 55:8-9 “For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways,” declares the Lord....My post is not to discourage you but to point out what the Bible says of the soul after death.
To the point that you have brought up about greek philosophy posing the idea that the body is something to be escaped- Romans 7: 14-25 seems to teach this very idea.
I'm confused? Are you saying if we believe in Christ that he will not take us when he returns?... I understand that when we die we don't immediately go to heaven. But when he returns body's that were asleep in Christ will then be taken N live forever with him.
This man has spoken the truth. Now the truth simply is what it is. If you feel challenged by what you have heard, research it for yourself in the Bible. It's been there the whole time. Get a concordance which has every word in the Bible (Hebrew & Greek) documented, numbered and translated. Prove it for yourselves instead of reacting with indignity. You have to be willing to see what's there. It may even require, dare I say it? Humility.
Noel Robles I have never seen a soul sleep believer deal with this word. ‹‹ H7495 Transliteration: rapha' Pronunciation: rä·fä' Part of Speech: masculine plural noun Root Word (Etymology): From רָפָא (H7495) in the sense of רָפָה (H7503) TWOT Reference: 2198c Outline of Biblical Usage: ghosts of the dead, shades, spirits KJV Translation Count: 8x The KJV translates Strongs H7496 in the following manner: dead (7x), deceased (1x). Strong's Definitions: רָפָא râphâʼ, raw-faw'; from H7495 in the sense of H7503; properly, lax, i.e. (figuratively) a ghost (as dead; in plural only):-dead, deceased.
Yes, He overcame sin and death and the same Spirit which raised Him from the dead lives in us, and that is why we must be born again. His life in us. That is eternal. Thank you Father.
Excellent video Lex. Many of these things I have known for a long time. I still fellowship with folks who believe in an immortal soul. This video does a great job showing the gravity of this teaching.
Our faith in our Lord Yeshua leads our SOULS to two options: 1) Eternal existence in the Kingdom. 2) Eternal existence in the lake of fire. If our soul was tied to this single body we have then it would wither away on death and we would not be accountable on the judgement day. God wants us to be guided by our untainted soul and not by our currupt flesh. These are my two cents.
OH BOY--I see there is a TOTAL MISUNDERSTANDING about this if this man teaches a soul ceases to exist! That is the Jehovah Witness doctrine. "Death" is NOT defined as ceasing to exist but as separation. Luke 16 CLEARLY teaches the rich man was conscious in torment. This teaching that souls cease to exist is HERESY.
I would be very cautious to listen to anyone that has the same doctrine as the Jehovah Witnesses. They don't even believe Jesus is God. Some of Unlearns teachings are similar to Jehovah witness.
Eternal life...NOT "immortality." If you want that, sign up for "transhumanism" and upload your brain on a computer...become an android. I don't want to be one....ever.
Read Joab 27:4 As long as my breadth is in me, and the spirit of God is in my nostril Notice it did not say breath of GOD DYING DEATH ONLY REFERS TO THE BODY SO WHEN SCRIPTURE TALKS ABOUT THE SECOND DEATH THAT RRFERS TO DEMNATION/ Hell
As an Atheist, I want to say that I think you have great content. And surprising as this may sound, thank you for producing these topics. The vast majority of Christians have been hoodwinked by the Church for far too long.
What would you do with the story of the rich man and Lazarus? What would you do with the souls of the martyrs in heaven when they ask the lord to what it means a question to how long will it be to avenge those who dwell on the earth?
Thank you for this. I heard it said in a service by two pastors, "we don't really die, we just go to one place or the other." I have often wanted to revisit them and ask them who is it then that lied: God? when He said, the soul that sinneth it shall die" , or the serpent who said, "you shall not surely die." It really is that simple.
@@cats9654 Then God's the liar, and Satan told the truth!
Heidi but often you’ll get some responses like “the body dies not the soul” to push their immortal souls doctrine. They ignore a bunch of verses.
@@mrg466 satan is always the liar
Death is 3 parts. Spiritual death the state of humans before salvation 2 physical death leaving body. 3 eternal death separation from God.
But did the serpent lie?
"And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell."
(Matt. 10:28 KJV)
living water surprised he didn't touch on that scripture as it is the clearest description of his argument in my opinion. There are dozens more which confirm that the soul is created and can be destoyed.
I myself just believe in the most powerful one GOD....case closed
Body and soul is one and the same
@@richardmitchell409 Body is Body Soul is the Life that God gave the Body to be alive.. Soul returns to God when we die , but you as a human /person are completely dead. Thats why at the first/second Resurection God brings everyone to LiFE AGAIN.
@@richardmitchell409 Jesus literally distinguished the difference.
The soul is not "immortal". It's destiny is, as Jesus stated, in the hands of God.
Man's autonomy ends in this body. The soul is God's. There isn't much coverage of this in The Word, but I can't help but wonder how we go from one body to a glorified body at resurrection.
Jesus had no loss of memory when he was raised. Could it be that the soul is the "essence" (for lack of a better word) of man that God maintains and imparts in the vessel of his choosing?
Who knows? Confusing these biblically derivative ideas with preexistence doesn't really help the conversation.
WoW! What a topic. Thank you Lex for doing all of the research needed to present this video. Truly, well done!
Zero Curvature as opposed to what?
Yes, it's possible that Lex had help if that's what you mean. But someone(s) took a lot of care in finding the passages and information for this video.
I think we really need to make a distinction between "soul" and "spirit", or at least make sure that people understand that there are two very different concepts that are often translated as "soul" in English Bibles. The spirit (ruach or neshamah) is the incorporeal part of a person that continues to live in after the body dies. People have a spirit, while animals do not. The soul (nephesh) is the whole package of a living being. People *are* souls made up, in part, of spirits and bodies. Unfortunately, many Bibles and English speakers use these terms interchangeably and this is an enormous barrier to understanding what the Bible really says about our nature. People and animals are both nephesh or living souls.
So the spirit lives on but the soul can be destroyed by God?
Spirit means the breath. Living people are souls as stated in genesis. Adam became a living soul. There’s no such thing as dead souls.
The spirit is the spirit of God that lives within us, however it is God. We are our souls.
You got the part right about nephesh, but nowhere does it say our spirit lives forever. The spirit is the breath of God that gives us life. It returns to God when we die.
Spirit can also refer to our temperament or drive. Ie you can have an angry, generous or gentle spirit. Your spirit can also be broken. Something much deeper than a broken heart. But nowhere is it indicated that it's some conscious being that can exist outside the body.
@@cryptojihadi265 amen u r correct 💯
What about: "do you not fear the one that can destroy the body but fear the one that can destroy body and soul."
That's exactly why we need to study the Bible because that's how God speaks to us, & stop asking the creation for info & start asking the creator God for info by reading his word, AKA the Bible
Exactly. Only God can destroy our soul. An immortal thing can’t be destroyed.
@JESUS IsLord amen!
The ancient Israeli word for "soul" is "nephish". It also means "life". Therefore, "life" and "soul" are synonymous. Where is the nephish (life/soul) located? Genesis 9:4 - "But you shall not eat flesh with its life, that is, its blood." Leviticus 17:11 - "For the life of the flesh is in the blood, and I have given it to you upon the altar to make atonement for your souls; for it is the blood that
makes atonement for the soul." Animals also have the breath of life, aka, nephish/life/soul. Where is the nephish/life/soul? In the blood. Our life force is in our blood. Genesis 2:7 - "And the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life (soul/nephish); and man became a living being (life/soul/nephish)." We are a soul, life, nephish. The life force, soul force, nephish force resides in the blood. I challenge anyone to show me Scripture that says we have an immortal, independent soul, life, nephish like a ghost that exists apart from the body.
I think what they are saying is that we didn’t exist for eternity prior to conception but now that we exist, starting from conception we exist on earth and then will exist forever either in the lake of fire or in heaven.
It frustrates me to no end how much of the Bible has been perverted by the catholic church. We hold so many things as Christian truth that are simply lies. Thanks for your hard work. I just wish that I could convince my mother to unlearn the lies.
DNW Annihilation is not the answer to the misleading doctrines.
DNW the stance in this TH-cam is also a lie. Do some more searching.
@@ChristianaPilgrim are you an Israelite?
@@theresnohell3144 please explain or supply scripture to back up that claim
@@53slyder be specific of what you would like for me to back up.
I just had an awakening moment about this very subject.
I am thankful for your input
God Bless
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Satan’s greatest ambassadors are not pimps, politicians, or power-brokers, but pastors.
His priests do not peddle a different religion, but a deadly perversion of the true one.
His troops do not make a full-out frontal assault, but work as agents, sneaking into the opposing army.
Satan’s tactics are studied, clever, predictable, effective. Therefore, we must always remain vigilant.
“Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing but inwardly are ravenous wolves. You will recognize them by their fruits” (Matthew 7:15-16a).
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You are preaching the Gospel truth
Now thats an obvious reference to Muhammed and his fanatic islamic disciples.
Yes, we do, the soul does live on just like God promised, the soul is alive and living only the flesh dies in a physical death. we have proof, God can do anything and God has sent down his angel for a powerful mission. to let you all know our soul is alive and living, have a blessed day.
Only the human body of flesh suffers a physical death, our souls are alive and living, just like God promised!! Have a blessed day!! God is amazing.
Above comment.lies
@@MargaretRobinson-fj2egEzequiel 18:4 "The soul who sin shall die"
In all seriousness how can Luke 16:22 be interpreted if when the body is dead the soul is also 22“Finally, the poor man died and was carried by the angels to sit beside Abraham at the heavenly banquet. The rich man also died and was buried, 23and he went to the place of the dead. There, in torment, he saw Abraham in the far distance with Lazarus at his side.
It was a parable.
@@Στεφανος-κ7υ unlike some of the other stories that said they were parables, this story is very different. It not only names Lazarus by name it refers to Abraham by name and the prophets. Even if it was a parable, they are all actually based on true events that happens in reality to show how the kingdom of God operates, thus making it true anyway. Otherwise you're saying that what Jesus stated were the words of Abraham were made up, or a lie!
@@ctglenn1 so what are you saying exactly?
@@moremusic868 the souls of dead people are not sleep as some my say, they have some kind of consciousness, but no contact and awareness of the living world as they wait for Judgment day.
@@ctglenn1 you are right on 98% of what you say. The only thing I help you with is that the dead souls are indeed sleeping. Just not the sense of sleep that the world defines as sleep. Read John 11:11-14 and 1 Thessalonians 4:13-17. Continue in the faith and allow your light to shine bright! Peace and love to you! ✌❤
Eternal Life begins with Christ in you, because He is the Life
What does eternal soul mean when this soul moves through dimensions where time doesn't exist ? Think of when you are sleeping per instance.
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Yes, the Way, the Truth, and the Life! He told us!
We have the promise of eonaian life
I was raised evangelical but just recently started to walk with Christ... I JUST started to learn the Bible on my own and Your channel has helped me to understand a lot of things that are confusing to me.
But unlearn this about hell has been hard... what about the people who say they’ve had near death experience and got to see/feel what eternal hell will be like... Was it a dream? Did they imagine it?
The medical field can explain this. When someone is asphyxiating. Aka. Not getting enough oxygen, that is a euphoric experience, and most people just see bright light and like tunnel vision and hallucinate.
Because they believe in Heaven, they see what they think Heaven is like
@@Kunoichi139 yeah, that makes a lot of sense.
No and neither did the rich man Lazarus. Eternal seperation from God will put us face to face with torment and its best described as getting burned "metaforically" speaking, however it is a place just as Jesus described. But, it wont be permanent its a time of reaping and trying to exist on the fruit of what we have sown. At judgement they become alive again body and soul " breath" will stand before the throne and given the sentence real death" they will cease to exist consumed by the lake of fire. P. S. Adam and Eve did not die on the very day they ate the fruit but on the very day they surely lost access to the tree of life and the garden that housed it.
Above comment. No they lied
Man, your teaching is so clear - thank you
Thanks very informative, it so crucial to Christ's message to understand this. John 3:16 says who so ever believes in him has eternal life. Yet many churches teach that we are saved by works, good deeds and conduct. Whilst these things are important it's good to know that we are saved not by them but by grace. Eternal life is a gift of a loving God and all we have to do is believe in him. Thanks so much for sharing this.
@John Cameron LOL @ your god.
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Good works come after grace of the life, death and resurrection of Jesus, when we are regenerated, new creatures in Christ by the renewing of our mind.
It has nothing to do with what we're saved BY in this context. It is simply life and death
Ecclesiastes 3: 11 says he has made everything beautiful in its time. Also he has put eternity in their hearts, except that no one can find out the work that God does from beginning to end.
“And it came to pass, as her soul was in departing, (for she died) that she called his name Ben-oni: but his father called him Benjamin.”
Genesis 35:18 , how do you explain this
I agree, thanks. The best definition of “soul”, is it is, vitality! Just like an electric appliance, you apply (breathe) voltage and it receives “vitality”. The Holy Spirit shall revitalize Christians at the resurrection along with a new body. Praise God!
I needed this...I was reading about this day before and it left me very depressed because some churches say hell is eternal and some say it isnt. I only want to know the truth. Both arguements seem to have verses in Bible in agreement. And there are people who claim to go to hell and see demons tormenting people which i dont understand if hell is the demons punishment too. Why would God allow them to have the pleasure of what they already been doing against him for our very begginning.
Immortality of the Soul is extremely unbiblical.
Isaiah 53:5, But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes, we are healed.
For salvation, people just need to follow the way they did it in Acts? They were baptized in the water and of the spirit. Here's why! The gospel is the death, burial, and resurrection of Jesus Christ. If we are to follow him, we must do the same thing. Death= repentance, Burial = baptism, and resurrection = being filled with the Holy Ghost and rising again from the dead. That's what Acts 2:38 is.
We must obey the gospel, 2 Thessalonians 1:8-9, in flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that OBEY NOT THE GOSPEL of our Lord Jesus Christ... Matthew 7:21-23, Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that DOETH THE WILL OF MY FATHER which is in Heaven. St John 3:3-5, EXCEPT a man be born of WATER AND OF THE SPIRIT, he cannot enter into the kingdom of GOD.
We can't come up with our own gospel. Galatians 1:8-9, But though we or an angel from heaven preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. Don't be cursed. One way for all people. Jews, Gentiles, and Samaritan. Our salvation has to match-up with the scriptures and no scriptures on the subject can be taken away.
Eternity is TOOO long to be WRONG! st, John 5:39, Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me.
God told Noah exactly how to be saved, how he must build the ark. Noah didn't come up with his own plan like people are doing today. A sinner's prayer, you just have to believe, etc which is not in the bible.
The gospels show what Christ has done on the cross for us. The book of Acts shows us the beginning of Christ's Church and how to enter the Church, obeying Acts 2:38. The letters were written to the Church to show us how to behave now that we are born again into the Church.
It's better to walk alone than to walk with a crowd going in the wrong direction. Are we supposed to follow the teachings of the apostles? Acts 2:42, They continued steadfastly in the apostle's doctrines. Ephesians 2:20, We are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief cornerstone. Jesus Christ truly loves you. Do you truly love him? If you believe in this message, help spread it in the name of Jesus Christ. God bless you!
That is a good question, regarding demons. Maybe because they haven't been thrown into the lake of fire yet.
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I need a queen.
After years of study I have come to this conclusion also. Be one of the five wise bridesmaids, not one of the lost.
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We have a problem. The Bible says that an evil soul will be tormented for eternity in the lake of fire, pretty sure you would have to be alive for that. True death is separation from god the Bible says, but it makes it clear that you would be in torment
Luke 19
19 And I will say to my soul, Soul, thou hast much goods laid up for many years; take thine ease, eat, drink, and be merry.
20 But God said unto him, Thou fool, this night thy soul shall be required of thee: then whose shall those things be, which thou hast provided?
Believing that we have an immortal soul is why people think that God will torment the unsaved in flames for all eternity. Hard to wrap your head around our loving God torturing billions if not trillions of unsaved people forever and ever. I’ve wrestled with the thought of that for years. Scariest thought anyone could imagine 😬
The word immortal means everlasting life. It doesn’t mean pre-existing.
This man speaks truth. I have studied this topic for years and was brought up on the lies passed down through generations that we die and yet live either in heaven or hell but when I dove into the bible and studied these things, It became clear that we have been taught false doctrines for centuries. But we can learn the truth once we let go of these teachings and as Lex says " Unlearn the lies ".
TruthHunter what about this scripture? “For this perishable must put on the imperishable, and this mortal must put on immortality.”
1 Corinthians 15:53
Am I missing something?
Believe God not Charlatans
Charlatans, Both of you! Believe GOD not the words of men wise in there own deceit. Paul said to be absent from the body is to be present with the Lord. Paul's body of flesh died. Christ taught about Hell and damnation in eternal fire. you cannot say you know anything of GOD or the truth. Jesus said I prepare a place for you. If it were not true I would have told you. You both call Christ a Liar.
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It would seem we are with our body (or what's left of the bits and pieces that God can put back together. Maybe we are of it in it's vibrations as matter and what energy lies within) until we are absent of it and then with God in the place that was prepared. I'm not sure any of this pertains to what happens to us immediately after dying. Perhaps there's more in the context and with more pin point translation. Idk much of the Bible, nor can I remember things too well, but when it comes to what you just said, that's what I'd assume, just a disclaimer.
I would recommend everybody go to some one else for there understanding, the bible first, this guy knows nothing and what he professes to know are deceiving blather.
Uhhh
Luke 23:43: “And Jesus said to him, Truly I say to you, To day shall you be with me in paradise.”
Larry, Our Lord stayed three days and three nights buried like he said he would after being crucified. When Mary and the other women saw him early on the first day of the week after he had risen she tried to touch him and he forbade her because like he said he hadn't ascended as yet to his father. How then did the thief join him in paradise immediately after death? I know the placing of the coma in that scripture could connote the meaning you are ascribing to but the Bible does not support that doctrine of going anywhere but the grave after death.
1 Thessalonians 4:16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
On that day the Lord will not be returning to earth with any person who died and went to heaven, they will in the grave or wherever their ashes were thrown and those alive on earth will join them to meet the Lord.
What happens if you move the comma after TODAY ? The comma never existed in the original documents !
@@bestcoursesonlinecura7644 That's right commas didn't even exist. And like Joel said above he didn't accend yet to heaven that day anyway so it couldn't have meant "today" literally.
@@michellemoffett9458 Jesus told him that day (today) that he will be (future time ) with him in paradise . The New Earth is called paradise and Heaven is the place where the Father is . We will never be where the Father is . We will be with Jesus on the New Earth !
I used to be a Jehovahs Witness and we believed what you are teaching about the soul as well, i dont agree with all your teachings but i do believe that Jesus is our savior and that God his Father sent him.
Ulises - Praise the Lord !!! And I am glad you noticed the false teaching very subtly weaved into this video :)
Then apparently that particular Jehovah’s Witnesses “church”, was actually teaching from Scripture.
Nats J.v.R , What false teachings?
The false teaching (which is becoming very popular at the moment) that after the Great White Throne judgement, those that are cast into the lake of fire will cease to exist.
Nats J.v.R is the lake of fire literally a lake? Its symbolic people
I’m wondering now what Paul meant by saying “absent from the body is present with the lord” what’s absent from the body?
He meant exactly what he said. He desired to leave and be with the Lord, something he understood to be immediate. Where the understanding gets lost is Paul is talking about what comes out of the body upon death, but every soul sleep believer will take you to scriptures talking about the body. The topic is not the body but what comes out of the body.
Jeff Lewis according to this video the souls and bodies are one...they don’t separate . This leaves me with questions about the “new bodies” we receive will they be with new souls? And then also maybe Paul was talking about the Spirit being present, or the breath of life
Lauren Maxwell give me the scripture where Paul was quoted
2 Regular Guys:Prophecy Fact Check According to the bible soul and body are not one.
Jeff Lewis show me scripture
nephesh is the Hebrew word for soul.
By definition is it you and I. The soul is the body. Nephesh is our body, our whole being. Our nephesh die because our spirits which is the breath our creator blow into us slowly fade away.
That's what I've been learning. please I ask that if I misjudged please explain.
Yes!!!
@@SaikoBlkBunny The SPIRIT returns back to God who gave it.The soul is the person or body and perishes at death.We return back to dust from whence we came.
The dead know nothing and sleep until Jesus returns where all will be judged and the resurrection takes place.Until then the dead know nothing.The Kingdom Of God will be established on EARTH and not in heaven.Jesus will sit on the throne of David in Jerusalem .The Bible tells is this .
@@feeltheforce10 why can't people see that. There is no such thing as an immortal Soul. Our Body is the Soul. The real us. When we die the Soul which is our body dies.
@@rasheealli It seems not many people want to take time to learn what scripture says - they prefer to make their own ideas up and listen to false preachers who also preach lies that the soul is immortal.Brainwashing and conditioning with false ideas.
So, how was the blood of Able (his soul) crying out to God? What sits and waits in shoul for judgement? How does God hate some before they were ever born? How can someone be raised from the dead? How could the dead cry out to God for justice in the end of days? You could be right, but this makes no sense to me. It doesn't seem to fit. Which makes me believe it's not correct. Too many things seem to contradict this idea. Can you explain this? Thank you, in advance.
Paul said to be apart from the body is to be present with the Lord. So when we die our soul will be with the Lord.
Read all the Scriptures that Paul wrote about RESURRECTION and you will learn the TRUTH.
Even Irenaeus (among many others) who once was a proponent of the doctrine of the immortality of the soul, later on rescinded his understanding once he learned of the truth regarding man's conditional immortality which IS indeed mortality.
Shalom and Thank you Lex may Yeshua bless you and your ministry and family
I once preached a sermon that stated those without Christ will be consumed in the Gehenna Fire and body and soul will be gone. Only those with Christ will live eternally with him. He alone grants this and anyone who believes otherwise are lost to the truth of Jesus. People did not like it because they thought God will forgive everyone and all will be in Heaven. I told them the Bible does not state that.
Thank you Lex. I agree with you 100%. Man does not "have" a soul but rather "is" a soul, a mortal soul. At Ecclesiastes 9:5 for example, Solomon said, "For the living know that they will die but the dead know nothing". A person in effect ceases to exist after death. Our real hope for life after death is The Resurrection.
Yes, I agree
Sandy..what about those in Rev.6 that were beheaded during Tribulation & r mentioned in heaven speaking w the Lord.
How could this be?if they died why aren't they just sleeping in the grave? I am confused
Sandra Heinz Your absolutely correct, but the soul sleep believer will change what the text says eventhough Revelation 4 starts off with what John saw in Heaven. This topic is so deep. Lots of people have just never studied it. You'd be amazed at how many intelligent people will tell you not to look up words or read other books on the matter. The funny thing is, the bible says everything the definitions and other books say.
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I wouldn't say the dead cease to exist, perhaps a better way to put it is as the proverb says, they don't have a portion anymore under the sun and their spirit is not somewhere else engaged in various activities. Their spirit/uncousious soul returns to God who gave it. This is what will return to the dead at the resurrection. However, this does not mean that the soul is immortal.
GreenBean 4 Why start in the middle of the book on death when people start dying in Genesis?
"...the truth shall set you free"
A-men, A-men, A-men! Learning SO much from you, brother! Growing up in Baptist, then Charismastic & other protestant churches, that never quite made sense, or left unknowns in Yah's loving promises of the whole scripture, there was so much before that is becoming more & more clear. I just need to study, to learn scriptures better so as to truky share the Gospel measage I too am excitedly learning truly all a new now at the middle of my life.
The truth "makes" you free, it does not set you free. You are not captive.
very powerful, thank you for clarifying!
The Word of God is very simple to understand, but when something is too simple the majority of people turns to complicate it. God never intended his children to be unclear about the Word at any point in their lives. The children of God are supposed to have the light of life because they follow Christ (John 8:12). But it is sad that too many Christians around the world don't really understand the Word of God and they err (James 1:16, James 5:19 and Matthew 22:29). And because they do not understand the Word of God, the enemy takes advantage of them, and they are taken captive at the devil's will (2Tim 2:26). Love from South Africa
Martin Luther said: "In the sleep of death there is complete unconsciousness and complete unawareness of the condition of death and the passage of time."
Well it seems, this death is like sleep but the second death is more like ceasing to exist altogether
I would say that the first death is death for material beings and that the second death can kill even immortal beings like satan himself who received immortality from God when he was still in the third heaven. Btw did you know that satan is still in heaven? Not the third heaven but the second one... But John saw that in the last days, he will be thrown to the earth. ANd also if you ever wondered why Michael didn't slander satan its because even though he sinned against God , he still has heavenly nature. It is clear that just like David was merciful upon Absalom because he had royal blood so too God pitied satan because he used to dwell in heaven and has a heavenly nature. Interesting things... It seems to me tho that John foresaw a second exodus by the hand of God through the two witnesses but I am not sure...
So if death in this explaination is being totally unawareness/unconsciousness, then this death would have to apply to Messiah. So if that is the case, and there is non-conscienceness in death, then Yeshua(Jesus) would disqualify Himself as the Messiah since He made a false statement about resurrecting Himself. He cannot resurrect Himself if He is nonconsciences/unwareness state. That also would mean that when He was resurrected He would have to be reborn since there was no life in Him when he was dead in the tomb.. By the way if the Son of Elohim was completely death then Elohim would stop to exist because Elohim is one. SO DID MESSIAH DIED A DIFFERENT TYPE OF DEATH, DEATH IS DEATH ACCORDING TO SCRIPTURES?
How would Martin Luther Know what is like
Well all of us know what its like. Have you ever slept whats called rem sleep? That's how the first death feels like... The second death on the other hand is fully ceasing to exist.
““There was a rich man who was dressed in purple and fine linen and lived in luxury every day. At his gate was laid a beggar named Lazarus, covered with sores and longing to eat what fell from the rich man’s table. Even the dogs came and licked his sores. “The time came when the beggar died and the angels carried him to Abraham’s side. The rich man also died and was buried. In Hades, where he was in torment, he looked up and saw Abraham far away, with Lazarus by his side. So he called to him, ‘Father Abraham, have pity on me and send Lazarus to dip the tip of his finger in water and cool my tongue, because I am in agony in this fire.’ “But Abraham replied, ‘Son, remember that in your lifetime you received your good things, while Lazarus received bad things, but now he is comforted here and you are in agony. And besides all this, between us and you a great chasm has been set in place, so that those who want to go from here to you cannot, nor can anyone cross over from there to us.’ “He answered, ‘Then I beg you, father, send Lazarus to my family, for I have five brothers. Let him warn them, so that they will not also come to this place of torment.’ “Abraham replied, ‘They have Moses and the Prophets; let them listen to them.’ “ ‘No, father Abraham,’ he said, ‘but if someone from the dead goes to them, they will repent.’ “He said to him, ‘If they do not listen to Moses and the Prophets, they will not be convinced even if someone rises from the dead.’ ””
Luke 16:19-31 NIV
.. Jesus said if you keep my father's commandments through me you shall live again through me you shall have eternal life.
John 3:16 for God so loved the world he gave his only son whosoever believeth in him shall not perish but have eternal life !!
I was waiting for this videos
Thank you brother for your teaching is accurately what the scripture said, God bless you.
THE BEARDED GUY IS NOT TELLING YOU WHERE IT SAYS THAT JESUS IS THE FIRST BORN OF MANY BROTHERS.
JESUS IS OUR BROTHER AND WE WILL LOOK LIKE HIM AND RULE THE UNIVERSE WITH HIM. Heb 2:7 Thou made him a little lower than the angels and set him over the works of thy hands: Ro 8:29 For we are to be conformed to the image of his Son, that Jesus might be the firstborn among many brethren
Really important topic you talk about here Lex, and thank you for sharing! I've really waited and have been looking forward to when you would bring this up! When I studied theology this was beyond doubt the most interesting topic - the theology of the nature of mankind. I'm always astonished by what believers say about us humans and our nature (all kinds of crazy stuff) and that they do not realize the foundational implications it has on who Jesus is.
Proverbs 8:22-23 "The LORD possessed me at the beginning of His way, Before His works of old. I have been established from everlasting, From the beginning, before there was ever an earth.
@pedro dasilva The proverbs were collected by Solomon with input from the scribes of the king Hezekiah... predates Christ and where does this chapter/scripture mention the messiah ?? @@pedro dasilva
@@forranach Correct, the Messiah wasn't "Created" these verses are Solomon speaking to God. It's a valid verse to introduce to think more deeply on the subject.
Amen brother you help me a lot with all your teaching god bless you amen
Totally agree up to 11:20. That's where i stopped. The bible explicitly states *THE SOUL THAT SINS, IT SHALL DIE.* Clearly lotsa Christians simply ignore that verse. Also somewhere in Job it states *THERE IS A SPIRIT IN MAN.* And in another verse it states *THE SPIRIT RETURNS WHENCE IT CAME.* But nowhere does it say the spirit is a soul or that the spirit contains the personality or the consciousness of the individual. In fact it says *THE DEAD KNOW NOT ANY THING.* Clearly the dead are completely unconscious. Many thanks. Maybe i'll listen more later.
The soul can't be killed Matthew 10:28
You are wrong
Thank you, Lee, for clarifying that. The immortality of men's soul has been such a controversy I assume for centuries. At least it has been in my Christian Life amongst the Believers I don't know why I never got that wrong. It's so obvious we're not immortal otherwise why would Adam and Eve be exiled and not be allowed to eat from the Tree of Life for fear they may live forever in sin.
Genesis 6:3 "Then the Lord said, “My Spirit will not contend with humans forever, for they are MORTAL; their days will be a hundred and twenty years.”
Wonderful! A verse that might convince my mother!
And the LORD said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years.
NKJV
And the LORD said, “My Spirit shall not strive with man forever, for he is indeed flesh; yet his days shall be one hundred and twenty years.”
NASB
Then the LORD said, “My Spirit shall not strive with man forever, because he also is flesh; nevertheless his days shall be one hundred and twenty years.”
NLT
Then the LORD said, “My Spirit will not put up with humans for such a long time, for they are only mortal flesh. In the future, their normal lifespan will be no more than 120 years.”
ASV
And Jehovah said, My Spirit shall not strive with man for ever, for that he also is flesh: yet shall his days be a hundred and twenty years.
DBY
And Jehovah said, My Spirit shall not always plead with Man; for he indeed is flesh; but his days shall be a hundred and twenty years.
HNV
The LORD said, "My Spirit will not strive with man forever, because he also is flesh; yet will his days be one hundred twenty years."
RSV
Then the LORD said, "My spirit shall not abide in man for ever, for he is flesh, but his days shall be a hundred and twenty years."
VUL
dixitque Deus non permanebit spiritus meus in homine in aeternum quia caro est eruntque dies illius centum viginti annorum
WEB
And the LORD said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be a hundred and twenty years.
YLT
And Jehovah saith, 'My Spirit doth not strive in man -- to the age; in their erring they are flesh:' and his days have been an hundred and twenty years.
NIV
Then the LORD said, “My Spirit will not contend with humans forever, for they are mortal; their days will be a hundred and twenty years.”
Just says man . The context is simple. Its just referring to after the fall . Death came after the fall . They lived longer at the beginning but because of mercey the age gets shorter .
I think the 120 years was when the flood came...... because 500 years later Abraham lived to 175...
and many in between the flood and Abraham lived much much longer
rough avg. 300 + years
@@thomasmyers9128 It was a statement about the remaining time for that world. 120 years till the flood. Not about lifespan.
@@dennisjump8655 yup… that’s what I said…
This is giving me a lot to dig into, I appreciate this channel and the approach/perspective outside of the Western Church structured teachings. I am struggling to reconcile this idea of the soul. Scriptures I have found that have me questioning are: Romans-8:29, Galatians-1:15. 1 Peter-1:20, Jeremiah-1:5 and Isaiah-44:24. These scriptures indicate God knew men before being born. I understand God it outside space and time as He is omnipresent. I'm wondering if the soul he creates at conception would not have already been in some form of existence in that place outside of space and time to know any before being formed.
Thanks for teaching scripture accurately.
There is a certain mindset that God wants us to have as his children. There is a mindset for the righteous (Luke 1:17), for the elect (those who are born again); this mindset the world cannot have it, you can only have this mindset through a certain understanding of the Word of God. Some people say there are different interpretations of the Word; well that is actually a lie from the pit of hell. There are no different interpretations; the Word means exactly what is written.
I was a pentecostal I had my. Doubts about the eternal soul. 1cor15 the first Adam was a natural man. Not natural and spiritual. Ecc. Says the dead cannot praise him.. In Timothy it says immortality and life came through the gospel. May God glve understanding in this.
Based on facts not mans traditions or emotional speculation and proof texts. Well done sir. This dangerous doctrine fuels so many other misunderstandings and denies the resurrection. Not only taught by Catholics but the high majority of christian-like denominations.
Lex could you please do a video on the difference between soul and spirit
Very simple , just go to Genesis man was formed with sand or clay and after God breath the breath of life into his nostril and he became being simple , and Isaiah said after death your spirit or the breath goes to the one givers that means to God simple so (sand or body or clay plus breath is equal to soul ) so HE said the soul that sinned shall die . So what is left??????
Soul = being
Spirit = disposition
We don’t have a soul (being), but we ARE a soul (being). The state of our being (soul) can be characterized by our disposition (spirit).
The soul is the combination of spirit and dirt. Simple explanation straight from the first page of the bible.
@@zvezdan956 no
@@zvezdan956 so angels are made out or dirt?
Nope
Love this channel man.
When Jesus is hanging on the cross, one of the two criminals hanging there says, "remember me when you enter your kingdom." Jesus says, today you will be with me in paradise." Not sure if Jesus says "today" but I'm curious what your take is on that since the dead will sleep until judgement day.
A Manual For Misfits some men throughout the Bible went to be with Yah like Enoch. Not all men have died or slept until the resurrection. At least that’s what I have derived from what I’ve read
There is no comma in Hebrew texts. So the translators put it where they wanted it.
So "I tell you the truth today, you WILL be with me in paradise." Is very different than "I tell you the truth, TODAY you will be with me in paradise"
Jesus, after he was resurrected, told Mary not to touch him as he hadn't gone to the father yet. Jesus was dead those three days. He was in the grave. The Holy Spirit had to raise him up,he wasn't conscious or able to raise himself. He had not gone to heaven yet. So clearly he could not have been with the thrief in paradise THAT day. The first version is in line with scripture and not the second.
@@AJS_Create That's a lie!
@@stormrising2623 The Bible never said that Paradise was Heaven,... it's only an assumption by most people.
It seems the main question Christians have is there consciousness after we die? There are some confusing statements about this,; like when Jesus said, " he that liveth and belieth in me shall never die". Yet, almost all the other scriptures make it clear that the person who dies no longer is aware of anything happening in world or any other until the resurrection from the dead.
It would have been nice if he started out saying with christ's sacrifice we are able to have an immortal soul. He just gave me a heart attack
Lmap right i i though he was getting at that once we die thats it. Because of Christ we have life after death.
@Asterix You are confusing immortal with infinite. Not the same thing. Mortal means subject to death. Immortal means not subject to death.
Spirit and soul are not the same
Without a doubt the human soul is immortal. This is clearly seen in many Scriptures in both Old and New Testament : Psalms 22:6, 49:7-8, Ecclesiastes 12:7, Dan.12:2-3, Matt.25:46 and 1Cor.15:12-19.
Dan.12:2 says multitudes who sleep in the dust of the earth will awake, some to everlasting life, others to shame and everlasting contempt.
Jesus Himself said that the wicked will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life Matt25:46.
While all souls are immortal, it is important to remember that we are not eternal in the same way that God is. God is immortal but God has always existed. Our souls are immortal but had a beginning. Our souls will live forever once we come into being, the Bible does not support the concept that our souls have always existed. God created our souls.
How can anyone read that and say that the soul is not immortal ? Heaven is forever and The Lake of Fire is also forever.
They are forever, but how do you explain 1 Timothy 4:10?
@@timstanford995 1 Tim.4:10 "because we trust in the living God, who is the Saviour of all men, specially of those that believe".
That's telling us that when Christ died He made atonement sufficient for the whole world. He is the Deliverer , the preserver of all mankind, but the Saviour from sin of those who believe. This does not teach universalism, that all will be saved because in Matt.7:23 we find Him saying "Depart from Me, I never knew you".
@@jjsam5375 I reject Universalism just like you. Brother, I myself picked up the wrong verse, forgive me for that, I meant 1 Timothy 6:16:
"who only hath immortality, dwelling in the light which no man can approach unto; whom no man hath seen, nor can see: to whom be honour and power everlasting. Amen."
@@jjsam5375 And me and the conditionalists agree with you on 1 Timothy 4:10!
@@timstanford995 I have done that to, think a certain verse and type something else.
In 1 Tim.6:14 it tells us we're talking about Our Lord Jesus Christ.
verse 15 says which in His times, He is going to show this old world who is boss, who is the only Potentate (Potentate meaning Ruler, Sovereign, One who wields Great Power ), The King of kings and Lord of lords.
verse 16 says "who only" meaning Him only, hath immortality dwelling in the light which no man can approach ….. this expresses uniqueness. Jesus in no uncertain terms is equated with God Himself in this verse.
Man is immortal, but not in the same way that God, Jesus and the Holy Spirit are immortal.
God, Jesus and the Holy Spirit have always been, they never had a beginning or an end. They are unique.
Man was created by God before the foundation of the world Eph. 1:4. We had a beginning, but will not end.
Eph.1:4 tells us of Predestination.
Makes so much sense! 👍👌
I've believed this was the true biblical position for a while but this really brings these points together.
Spirit = Gods Energy
Body = Matter
Spirit + Body = Soul
Excellent video my brother!
Why energy?
Why energy?
“I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High.” Psalms 82:6 “Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods?” John 10:34
It is one thing to think something it is another to teach it.
Being called an elohim does not make you The Most High God who only has immortality. Even fallen angels are called elohim in the Bible. In it's broadest sense elohim is just someone with an exalted position. But there is only one MOST HIGH GOD. So no, being called an elohim does not mean you are immortal. Not even close.
Hey Lex! I agree with your teaching about this subject and many others. I only have one problem and cannot fully understand this in the context of the soul not being immortal. I am talking about 1 Samuel chapter 28 starting with vers 7. I am pretty sure that the problem is not with the Scripure but instead it’s my problem of understanding this. So if you could share your knowledge in this matter that would be much appreciated. Thank you!
Great question. Notice verse 14 says that Saul "PERCEIVED that it was Samuel". It wasn't really Samuel because Samuel was and is asleep in the grave awaiting the Resurrection. This was a demonic spirit(fallen angel) impersonating Samuel. This is why several times in Scripture God condemns attempting to speak with the dead(Deuteronomy 18). Those who do this are speaking with demonic beings. I pray this answers your question. God bless!
@@jonathanhinkle2495 Thank you for your answers. Vers 15 says: "Samuel spoke to Saul...." Pretty sure that was Samuel. I can tell that only by the description told by the witch. Also, Abraham is also asleep awaiting the "Day of The Lord" but he is also "active" and speaks to the rich man in Luke 16:19-31. Before you say that's a parable, I don't think it is. That would be the first parable that mentions a name- Lazarus, who I think he actually lived and died and it's now with Abraham.
Sounds to me like the woman was able to contact Samuel while he was dead or asleep waiting for the resurrection of Christ. He didn’t seem happy to be taken from his rest. Bible teaches we die, sleep, wait, rise again with a new body and immortality to be with the Lord forever after that. Samuel had to be awaken and put back to rest. Just my opinion. ❤
Thank you for spreading this awareness.
Also after the fifth seal, there were people who appear in heaven after their death
Great video thank you Brother!!
Truth indeed.....the dead are dead. Don't believe the first great lie. God bless you brother....
revelation 6:9
The timing of my coming across this was amazing. I had just read a Chabad notice which stated in part: “The Yahrtzeit of a Tzaddik (anniversary of the death of a righteous man) is a time for personal reflection, and an opportunity to bond with the Tzaddik's soul so that it will intercede on our behalf in Heaven.” I was very surprised to hear this said by a Jewish organization. Obviously some Jews do believe in the Roman Catholic/HaSatan’s teaching of the immortality of the soul. It is possibly a teaching of Kabbalah and certainly not Torah.
You said "The Bible should be our source of doctrines and not assumptions and philosophies of men." yet the evidences you gave did not come from the bible. They are "assumptions and philosophies of men" like encyclopedias, to name some.
You don't like you are interested in looking for an answer rather you seem like you trying to just justify your own point of view.....
*You don't seem like
Many people don't know the difference between soul and spirit. That is why there is so much confusion.
It is the spirit which is eternal. But there is a difference between a quickened spirit and a dead spirit. That is what decides where one goes in the afterlife: heaven or hell.
The soul can be lost (Matt 16:26, Mark 8:36), can be destroyed (Matt 10:28, Luke 12:5)
When Adam sinned it was his spirit which died. But "died" is not the same as "disappeared". Angels are spirits. But there are also fallen angels, which, have lost their relationship with God. That doesn't mean that they have disappeared.
The spirit is the divine nature, is God's nature. A born again Christian has God's nature.
Soul, in the Bible, it has to do with "this life", natural life, human life, the human person, self, mind, will, emotions.
the quickened human spirit, has its own capabilities: it can know, it can talk, it can see etc
But, we are so used to using our soul power even in our relationship with God, that we make no spiritual progress. We even try to understand God, faith and all spiritual matters with our human mind, instead of our spirit. (That is why the spiritual things are hidden from the wise; Mat 11:25, Luke 10:21). We have to withdraw from our mind. And focus on our spirit, where God dwells.
The Word of God ... is piercing even to the dividing of soul and spirit. Heb 4:12 The Word of God shows us what is of the soul and what is of the spirit.
We only need to "just believe" the Word of God in our spirit. For example, we only need to believe that we are in His presence, not try to think with our mind: "what should I say?", "what will I feel?", "what should I think?" etc. But we have developed this habit to use our (human) mind.
For those who want to grow spiritually, I recommend "Experiencing the depths of Jesus Christ" by Madame Jeanne Guyon.
I think a lot of people are confused, however, remember, this is not a salvation issue, but we all are trying to figure it out......we will all know when we cross to the other side. Pray for understanding and discernment!
I tell this to people all the time, but they'd rather argue. So long as we agree that Christ is the only path to salvation, then we are brothers and sisters in His name.
tbirdsong1 well these are saying if we aren't saved then we are destroyed. I don't believe God destroys anyone. The cross of Christ took care of sin in full! The "destruction" is of our body in the grave. This is a bogus video.
tbirdsong1 your right we are groping in the dark.
@@GibsonRickenbacker how would I know?
I'd like to hear what Dr. Michael Heiser thinks about this subject, but so far I cant find a video about it from him.
The Bible (Book of Revelation) does suggest that we can live eternally out of the body as in the case of those who take the mark of the beast
Suggest is interpretation, not proof, biblical proof is verse and versesssss, clear cut
I am a little confused. So if our consciousnesses is asleep and not self aware after death then why would God resurrect unbelievers only to destroy them again at the final judgement, the second death?
Because they need to be judged in front of everyone before they receive their just due.
I am so grateful that I am
saved and have everlasting life through Jesus.
Yahushua is the gate. the commands are the narrow path we must walk on 2tim3:15-17 the law can make you wise for salvation. phil. 2:12 work out your salvation with fear and trembling. salvation is a process. turning away from lawlessness and starting to obey YAHUAH again. matthew 19:16-17. 1 John 1:7 But if we walk in the light/law, as he is in the light/law, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Yahushua Messiah his Son cleanseth us from all sin/lawlessness.
Phillipians 1:23 Psalms 9:17 Acts 7:54 Revaltion 6:9
The combination of the body and the spirit is the soul. You are having a problem with terminology. You're also having a problem a physics, if a spirit is a form of energy, and we know that mass and energy are fundamentally the same thing at different frequencies. Then we do have a body that lives on after death. Plus you are predicating your argument on the an English text of Genesis, not on Hebrew. The fundamental understanding that the spirit was infused into the man after creation is sound.
Robert Fustin all the soul is; is the earthly living body; actually our earthly identity.. its not the spirit included.
The spirit lives on. The body/soul dies. The body is changed and brought back to life.
Software can't be destroyed... soul is software not hardware, hence is not subject to velocity and mass and hence is eternal..
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@@theresnohell3144 lies!
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YHVH bless you and keep you lex!
Lex
you need to look at scripture a bit closer before you make your claims....First thing stick with the Bible and forget wasting time what are religions believe. The Soul is immortal....The Bible tells us so. The scriptures to look at (Luke 23:43) Jesus said to the thief on the cross beside Him "Jesus answered him, "Truly I tell you, today you will be with me in paradise." Jesus spoke of the richman in hell and Lazarus with Abraham in Paradise two real places (Luke 16:19-31) How about the mount of transfiguration where Moses and Elijah, talking with Jesus (Matthew 17:1-3) How about the souls under the altar in heaven read (Revelation 6:9) How about the multitude of people in heaven standing before the throne of God (Revelation 7:9 )
Jesus also spoke of hell where the worm never dies (Mark 9:48) also look at (Luke 13:28) There shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth, when ye shall see Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, and all the prophets, in the kingdom of God, and you yourselves thrust out.....Yes the soul is immortal...it will end up in either one of two places...(2 Corinthians 5:8) To be absent from the body is to be present with the Lord ...but you still don't see that....
Also God knows you before you were born (Jeremiah 1:5) Before I formed thee in the belly I knew thee; and before thou camest forth out of the womb I sanctified thee, and I ordained thee a prophet unto the nations.
You need to also understand our Carnal thinking and understanding cannot comprend the ways of God. This is what the Lord says..Isaiah 55:8-9 “For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways,” declares the Lord....My post is not to discourage you but to point out what the Bible says of the soul after death.
Italo Marti Soulman I wish he would consider these scriptures you mention . I’ve always heard these as well
Finally someone who uses a KJV Bible
Thank you!!
This dude is deceptive in his teaching have faith in the word of God not what a man thinks he is being led by his own understanding.
Thanks for posting your response, I was just made aware of this immortality of the soul issue and it is extremely disturbing.
To the point that you have brought up about greek philosophy posing the idea that the body is something to be escaped- Romans 7: 14-25 seems to teach this very idea.
I'm confused? Are you saying if we believe in Christ that he will not take us when he returns?...
I understand that when we die we don't immediately go to heaven. But when he returns body's that were asleep in Christ will then be taken N live forever with him.
This man has spoken the truth. Now the truth simply is what it is. If you feel challenged by what you have heard, research it for yourself in the Bible. It's been there the whole time. Get a concordance which has every word in the Bible (Hebrew & Greek) documented, numbered and translated. Prove it for yourselves instead of reacting with indignity. You have to be willing to see what's there. It may even require, dare I say it? Humility.
Without listening to the video yet my answer is
NO we dont, we CAN have eternal life though, one that only comes from God as long as we are with him.
i agree
Noel Robles I have never seen a soul sleep believer deal with this word.
‹‹ H7495
Transliteration: rapha'
Pronunciation: rä·fä'
Part of Speech: masculine plural noun
Root Word (Etymology): From רָפָא (H7495) in the sense of רָפָה (H7503)
TWOT Reference: 2198c
Outline of Biblical Usage:
ghosts of the dead, shades, spirits
KJV Translation Count: 8x
The KJV translates Strongs H7496 in the following manner: dead (7x), deceased (1x).
Strong's Definitions: רָפָא râphâʼ, raw-faw'; from H7495 in the sense of H7503; properly, lax, i.e. (figuratively) a ghost (as dead; in plural only):-dead, deceased.
As long as you obey Torah, follow Messiah.
Yes, He overcame sin and death and the same Spirit which raised Him from the dead lives in us, and that is why we must be born again. His life in us. That is eternal. Thank you Father.
Excellent video Lex. Many of these things I have known for a long time. I still fellowship with folks who believe in an immortal soul. This video does a great job showing the gravity of this teaching.
Our faith in our Lord Yeshua leads our SOULS to two options: 1) Eternal existence in the Kingdom. 2) Eternal existence in the lake of fire.
If our soul was tied to this single body we have then it would wither away on death and we would not be accountable on the judgement day. God wants us to be guided by our untainted soul and not by our currupt flesh. These are my two cents.
OH BOY--I see there is a TOTAL MISUNDERSTANDING about this if this man teaches a soul ceases to exist! That is the Jehovah Witness doctrine. "Death" is NOT defined as ceasing to exist but as separation. Luke 16 CLEARLY teaches the rich man was conscious in torment. This teaching that souls cease to exist is HERESY.
I would be very cautious to listen to anyone that has the same doctrine as the Jehovah Witnesses. They don't even believe Jesus is God. Some of Unlearns teachings are similar to Jehovah witness.
@@ceciliahernandez9517 I am not a Jehovah Witness, but the Bible does not teach that Jesus is God. Jesus is the son of God.
@@mr.e1220 Any teaching that diminishes the sovereignty of Jesus is false teaching. I urge you to reconsider what you believe.
Adam David's Oddities not really, the Bible makes it clear jesus was anointed by God and sits at his right hand. Made higher than the angels
@@sambeshalom879 Jesus is God in the flesh. "Truly, Truly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I am." John 8:58
I really like your Channel
Yeas : according to the scriptures, we have an immortal soul. Yea that's after the physical body is dead. The soul is exiting in every body.
The soul that sinneth shall die...very very simple...nothing immortal about that...
@@wildchild00fu yeas those who are sinners, will die twice. As this physical body, can die so will their spirits.
Where in Scripture does it say we have immortal souls?
Quote it
You can’t
If our soul is not eternal with our spirit, how come we will feel torments in hell?
The scripture teaches that immortality is something to seek. It is not inherent. ROM. 2:7
Eternal life...NOT "immortality." If you want that, sign up for "transhumanism" and upload your brain on a computer...become an android. I don't want to be one....ever.
He is lying I was dead in 2015 and my soul come out of the body and I could see my body while my soul was out
@@valeriegriner5644 have no one you love huh?
The Story of Lazarus and the Rich man, after their body death each has gone to separate places, how would these be explained?
Read Joab 27:4
As long as my breadth is in me, and the spirit of God is in my nostril
Notice it did not say breath of GOD DYING
DEATH ONLY REFERS TO THE BODY
SO WHEN SCRIPTURE TALKS ABOUT THE SECOND DEATH THAT RRFERS TO DEMNATION/ Hell
You speak the truth 🔥
Yes the Lord breathes out soul in us, but than that soul He gives us lives Eternal.... that's just like our amazing God!
Only the righteous will be given eternal life. The wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life.
Soul and spirit are two completely diferent things in the Bible.
God Breathed Spirit (ruak), and we became a living soul (nephesh/vessel)
Awesome Lesson Lex!
As an Atheist, I want to say that I think you have great content. And surprising as this may sound, thank you for producing these topics. The vast majority of Christians have been hoodwinked by the Church for far too long.
What would you do with the story of the rich man and Lazarus? What would you do with the souls of the martyrs in heaven when they ask the lord to what it means a question to how long will it be to avenge those who dwell on the earth?