Scag vs. Hustler Cut Quality - The Video Doesn't Lie!

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  • @morejelloplease
    @morejelloplease  ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I made this video to show that i'm not blowing smoke, and that there's an obvious cut quality issue with this hustler. I dont know if it's just mine or if they are all like this. At first the mulch kit was to blame, then the engine rpm was to blame. but now with the mulch kit removed and the rpm set, there's still obvious cut quality issues. the scag walks all over this hustler, and that's using the same entry level non-commercial deck found on the liberty z and freedom z. also, if you listen to the engine sound on the scag, it sounds like it's turned down compared to the hustler. I'll confirm this and post a video later. The hustler is clean and in showroom condition (as you can see at the beginning of the video) and is sitting in the garage waiting to go back to the dealer, they claim they are going to buy it back but waiting on hustler now, it's been almost 2 weeks and they are dragging their feet. It's a shame because I put a lot of time and money into the hustler and somethings just not right with it.

    • @travisricks3436
      @travisricks3436 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I hope you get satisfaction out of your dealer/Hustler. I’ve been waiting on another follow up video.

  • @morejelloplease
    @morejelloplease  ปีที่แล้ว +5

    5/25 Update: For all those wondering, I contacted the dealer again today, I was told they approved buying back the mower last week, but were waiting on @HustlerTurf credit department to fund the dealer or something now. They aren't sure how much they will give me, or if they will even cover the taxes I paid. Everything is still very unclear, No one has a definite answer yet, and none of this is very confidence inspiring.

  • @travisricks3436
    @travisricks3436 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I mainly cut on 2.75” with my FasTrak SDX 60. I cut every 2-3 weeks and NEVER have to double cut.

    • @morejelloplease
      @morejelloplease  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      That's where the hustler actually cuts the best. But that's too low for my situation. , the mower should cut good regardless of deck height, not just one setting. The scag seems to cut great almost everywhere, and I don't like scag because of how they treated me on 4 new scags I bought in the past 2 years, if scag made things right I'd entertain another one.

  • @nathanhatcher7096
    @nathanhatcher7096 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    The answers is in the deck design the hustler has more distance between the baffles and blades to allow better air flow of grass clippings and the spread of discharge in wet or healthy grass though it will lack the vacuum to cut grass in that condition (dry dead and tall), simply just caring for the lawn by gud over seeding along with watering and fertilizer i promise you the hustler will shine in it! And on the other hand the scag will choke up on such grass, either way you made a gud point scag will serve you better for the conditions of that yard!

    • @morejelloplease
      @morejelloplease  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The hustler cuts like it has a mulch kit on but it doesn't. I mowed with this one at a commercial business and I had to give up that location. It was so embarrassing. Hustler won't fool me again.

    • @tienjoso630
      @tienjoso630 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@morejelloplease With all due respect to @nathanhatcher7096 one shouldn't have to prep and mind the lawn to estate like condition for a mower to perform. I just got a Liberty Z 36" Hero deck this year, my first zero turn and it cuts pretty good. I have a pretty a pretty thick lawn as I over seeded with tall fescue on established rye. live in the Northeast and have irrigation. Spring was wet so growth was crazy but I mowed only on dry days. Now it's drought conditions (I don't fight drought with massive irrigation) and I have to say this thing cuts like a dream then/now. It basically, looks like a carpet afterwards, no stragglers. Did find one one last mow but I think that was on my k turn last go. I was going back and forth on what to buy and they're not cheap but happy as I can get with my Scag. Best of luck going forward.

  • @FreeSwimmer
    @FreeSwimmer 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I just bought a Scag Patriot because of a few things. I had Scag mowers many years ago. The 2023 Patriot seems like a solid piece. It will serve me well as a 3rd mower. I have had several Hustlers over past 11 years and never experienced that cutting issue. Maybe a rookie put too short of blades on it.?? I have had positive results from X-Ones and Trimstars. My negative about Hustlers, as of lately, is the decks getting rust holes. I blow out thoroughly every day.

    • @cedricjohnson107
      @cedricjohnson107 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Bought a new XDX Raptor 48 in May of 2024. Cut quality was just like yours:: lot of double cutting!! Installed some new copperhead blades & all issues went away!! Maybe it's those Excell blades they putting on them!!!

  • @ronniegibson8577
    @ronniegibson8577 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I got a snapper pro last year and it has been cutting like a champ. I came sooo close to getting the scag patriot. I looked at some of the hustlers, but the dealer was talking me out of them

    • @morejelloplease
      @morejelloplease  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I've had both, in fact I cut with my old patriot today. I will never buy another new scag. Buy used, they are all over inflated on pricing still

    • @ronniegibson8577
      @ronniegibson8577 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @morejelloplease i have to agree. I almost got a toro 4000 but i was able to get a snapper pro 200xt brand new for the same money. It's crazy to what mowers cost now

  • @rebeccarobinson7024
    @rebeccarobinson7024 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I have same problem with my gravely proturn 252 but I found right cut height same type of grass I leave in Nacogdoches tx put it down to 2.75

    • @morejelloplease
      @morejelloplease  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I tried all cut heights, deck was bent, dealer bought it back, was a pain in the ass. Never buy hustler.

  • @jamesevans20
    @jamesevans20 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks for the video, I know now what to look for in deck designs, You would think a mower engineer would have discovered this too!

    • @morejelloplease
      @morejelloplease  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Some people say their hustler cuts fine, and others report the same issues, especially when you use mulching blades, mulching kits and chute blockers.

  • @chrishart2064
    @chrishart2064 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have no skin in the game but did you look at the hustler blades to see if they were sharpened? I bought a set of blades for my garden tractor once and they were never sharpened from the factory. At all. Zero edge. They were stamped out and had the center mounting hole but they hadn’t been sharpened at all.

    • @morejelloplease
      @morejelloplease  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Most appear not sharpened and are painted over when new. They are not knife sharp. I did sharpen all 3 sets and there was no difference.

  • @perrybarrett3292
    @perrybarrett3292 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Must have your blades on backwards

  • @MatthewBrown-qj9ye
    @MatthewBrown-qj9ye 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I bought a raptor xdx 54”. Mine was cutting just like yours. Come to find out the belt was routed wrong and the blades were spinning backwards. Put a new belt on the correct way and problem solved

    • @morejelloplease
      @morejelloplease  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Man I wish it was that simple for me, my deck was warped but they said it wasn't.

  • @michaeljessie1853
    @michaeljessie1853 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have a 2022 Hustler Raptor XDX with the same Deck that the Fastrak does, it mows great I don’t know the problem with that Fastrak mower , just by seeing your video there is something wrong.

    • @morejelloplease
      @morejelloplease  ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah I had something wrong but the dealer couldn't find it. Overall hustler customer service was horrible. Even dealers today can't communicate properly to even sell a damn mower.

    • @michaeljessie1853
      @michaeljessie1853 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@morejellopleasesorry to hear your having problems hustler mower an the dealership I hope everything gets work out.

  • @davidabernathy4553
    @davidabernathy4553 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Well now this is an interesting video. And a real problem. I have a Hustler 60 in deck X1 and so far my cut quality Seems to be really good. I don't have any problems with it but if it cut like that Hustler you have I would be really upset.

  • @deborahyoung2578
    @deborahyoung2578 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hey guys I bought a Hustler FastTrack in 2022 and the mower has a 48inch cutting deck. I have 50 hours on it now and the Hustler mower cuts well NO stragglers. the mower has 22hp engine kawasaki I put the FastTrack to the test. I put it in 5ft tall grass and it left a few stragglers and I put the deck on 5inch's BUT but at 50 hours the engine gave me a problem the engine coil want out on me but other than that it's been a great mower.

    • @morejelloplease
      @morejelloplease  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks, this confirms even more that there was a problem with my deck. Too bad the dealer didn't catch it. Yours is the ft651 non-efi correct?

    • @deborahyoung2578
      @deborahyoung2578 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes sir it is.

    • @deborahyoung2578
      @deborahyoung2578 ปีที่แล้ว

      sir I think the problem is your deck is 54" and my deck is 48" the blade speed is probably better faster

    • @morejelloplease
      @morejelloplease  ปีที่แล้ว

      @deborahyoung2578 its the opposite

    • @deborahyoung2578
      @deborahyoung2578 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm sorry I just looked at my photos of my mower it's ft691v.

  • @theobserver9565
    @theobserver9565 ปีที่แล้ว

    Would be interesting if you could get another Hustler and compare the cut to yours.
    On another note how did you pay for your mower? Credit Card? If so I would dispute the charge as your Hustler is defective!

    • @morejelloplease
      @morejelloplease  ปีที่แล้ว

      The dealer could have done that while it was at the shop. I paid mostly cash.

  • @rodneyproctor5566
    @rodneyproctor5566 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have a Hustler fast track 60 in the blades that came on it wasn’t very good bought a new sit on have 200 hrs on the mower it’s a great mower

    • @morejelloplease
      @morejelloplease  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I tried 3 different sets of blades, oem, oem mulch, and rotary Copperhead. Same results. Machine was defective, hustler wanted nothing to do with me saying they only guarantee cut quality on turf grass, which is the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard, and the dealer only bought it back because I left a bad review.

  • @sjapan8149
    @sjapan8149 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I don’t see many Hustlers in my area but one guy uses one to cut a commercial lot I frequently drive by and after watching your videos I’ve been paying attention to that lot. Not sure if it’s a coincidence but it’s the shittiest job I’ve ever seen a pro mower do. Clumping grass, unevenness, stragglers. I’d be ashamed to charge someone for that.

  • @kimgardner4464
    @kimgardner4464 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have a 60" Hustler Fastrak. Cut quality was so bad the dealer even agreed. They got the rep to install the high-vac kit and high-lift blades. The cut quality was a little better, but still totally unacceptable. I am going to sell it and get something different. It is a total frustration to even use. What a waste.

    • @morejelloplease
      @morejelloplease  ปีที่แล้ว

      I left a bad review. And the dealer said he would give me a refund if I removed my review. shitty way to do business but that was the only way I could get my money back

  • @Bizzo1289
    @Bizzo1289 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Looks to me you’re cutting completely malnourished grass in the first video with the hustler. Which is generally harder to cut.

  • @kennethwilliams5096
    @kennethwilliams5096 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The cut highest are different from scagg to hustler. Hustler you have to cut lower to match the cutting heights.

    • @morejelloplease
      @morejelloplease  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I guess you didnt watch the whole video. regardless, the hustler should cut at any height period.

  • @LonGilford
    @LonGilford 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Come on people, there can be issues with any product regardless of how reliable they are. Every person can have different experiences and opinions,that doesn’t mean your brand is bad.

    • @morejelloplease
      @morejelloplease  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I bought 4 brand new scags in 2 years, they ALL had issues. Bought the hustler because I was tired of scags shit, the hustler was a failure also.

  • @davidsparks4611
    @davidsparks4611 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Look at the difference in the grass you're cutting. The grass you cut with the Hustler was a lot thicker higher even dryer. Not even close.

    • @morejelloplease
      @morejelloplease  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @davidsparks4611 same yard, it had different lengths, besides it it can't cut 4 inch grass then it can go back to the store. Bottom line It had a bent deck but the dealer would acknowledge it, so I left a bad review and they bought the mower back if I removed my review. Pretty messed up but that's how that cookie crumbled.

  • @bobleone1381
    @bobleone1381 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have owned two Hustlers and NEVER had a problem with cut quality. If fact the cut on both were much better than any Toro I've owned. I just purchased my third Hustler today. I'll let you know if I have problems. But I expect to have no issues based on my past experience. Maybe your unit just has a problem. And Hustler is buying it back from you so, you lost nothing.

    • @morejelloplease
      @morejelloplease  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I lost nothing? Guess you didn't watch the video. Good luck, my hustler was crap, the dealer only bought it back because I left a negative review. They sold it to someone else, prob with the same bent deck and who knows what kind of cut quality they will accept. The choice was clear between hustler and scag, and I bought 4 new scags in 2 years and they all had problems as well. It's mostly the dealers and PDI issues. Scag nation facebook is full of problems with brand new scags. Hustler is just as bad.

    • @dw5743
      @dw5743 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@morejellopleaseI have 2 old hustlers fastraks 42 and 52 from 2004 and 2005 no issues at all. It's all new mowers like you said no matter the brand. Everything has quality control issues.

  • @cwtex59
    @cwtex59 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Getting my Bad Boy Maverick HD with Honda motor tomorrow. I’ll let you know how it cuts . Not doing mulch kit at this time . Sorry to hear your still having issues with the Hustler. Hustler was my first choice but for roughly the same mower in BadBoy I’m saving around 1000 . Only time will tell if I made a good choice . The deck is actually thicker on the Bad Boy .

    • @uelement89
      @uelement89 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Want know what you think about your new mower when get it as well

    • @cwtex59
      @cwtex59 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@uelement89
      Picked it up today only got to do a few passes with it . Seems to cut good, it rained last night so ground is pretty soft in areas . It’s a little stiffer steering than my old Hustler, but it’s been 16 years since I’ve had a new mower. Don’t remember if it was this stiff but I’ll know more as I learn how it handles. The Honda purred like a kitten. I’ve got close to 4 acres so I’ll get used to it pretty fast . It has different safety features my old Hustler doesn’t have so that’s different also . The little I cut with it I’m pleased with . Still have my 42” hustler that I’ll still use on my yard since it mulches good .

    • @cwtex59
      @cwtex59 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Just cut a little over 2 acre’s and so far so good. I really speed up my mowing going to the 54 “ compared to my old 42” . Only time will tell how well the Bad Boy holds up compared to my old Hustler.
      Good luck with getting your money back and finding what you want

    • @devindawson1533
      @devindawson1533 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I'm looking at these right now, what's your 1 yr review

    • @cwtex59
      @cwtex59 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@devindawson1533
      I have loved it , mows great . I have a little over 4 acres I mow . No issues with it other than hour meter went bad within a few hours of getting it . They replaced it and no other issues. I actually got a BadBoy blower as a gift from BadBoy as a promotional gift . The dealership called me about two months after purchase of mower . They said come get your blower, I didn’t even know that was part of the purchase. Nice bonus.

  • @noneovyerbusiness4909
    @noneovyerbusiness4909 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I have a Hustler Fastrak 48 that has the Honda GXV 610 engine. It starves for fuel when it gets hot and has plastic covers that you can't remove to service the carburetor becuase the air box backing plate nuts that the bolts screw into just spin in the fan cover. I'll have to destroy the fan cover to remove the air cleaner housing. Honda used to make quality products, now they make plastic junk like all the other greedy corporations..

  • @dreambigbigger1622
    @dreambigbigger1622 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    that particular hustler isn't commercial its for home use

    • @morejelloplease
      @morejelloplease  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Actually it says commercial all over it so...

    • @dreambigbigger1622
      @dreambigbigger1622 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@morejelloplease that’s strange idk then maybe we got a lemon

  • @luisperales780
    @luisperales780 ปีที่แล้ว

    Do you have an email I can send you photos of my cuts with hustler fastrak sdx and it cuts great.

  • @glennanderson5335
    @glennanderson5335 ปีที่แล้ว

    And that Scag don’t even have the Velocity 2 deck does it?

    • @morejelloplease
      @morejelloplease  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Nope

    • @morejelloplease
      @morejelloplease  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I made several videos but they are hidden waiting for hustler. If they don't buy this back for a full refund next week in going on full blast with more videos, tired of this shit. Hustler if you read this, make it happen.

    • @glennanderson5335
      @glennanderson5335 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@morejelloplease does your Hustler have a Turbo baffle on it? Some of the ones Ive looked at that aren’t commercial don’t have one. Although I cut with my stand on Bradley 48 without the turbo baffle and I think it cuts better than when I have it installed. My Bradley does pretty good but still not as good as the Scag I don’t think

    • @glennanderson5335
      @glennanderson5335 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I think my next commercial mower will be a V-Ride

    • @morejelloplease
      @morejelloplease  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@glennanderson5335 I've never driven one, I need to tow a yard cart so that won't work

  • @FindersKeepers88
    @FindersKeepers88 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Good, Thx

  • @treylem3
    @treylem3 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    👍

  • @davidabernathy4553
    @davidabernathy4553 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is what happens when Stanley Black& Decker acquired Hustler outdoor equipment.

    • @morejelloplease
      @morejelloplease  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Owned by MTD

    • @larrysylvester4438
      @larrysylvester4438 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Sorry buckwheat hustler is owned by exmark

    • @morejelloplease
      @morejelloplease  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @larrysylvester4438 they wish!! Hustler is owned by black and decker, they also own MTD that makes cub cadet, and many other brands. Exmark is made by toro. Your dealer must have given you some lip service to sell you that hustler haha. Nice try!

  • @rebeccarobinson7024
    @rebeccarobinson7024 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    If that isn't better go down to 2.4 u find sweet spot I have lots of hay grass so ya hard on any mower

  • @kenshaum3994
    @kenshaum3994 ปีที่แล้ว

    Mulch kit is not designed for long grass

  • @markbroughton5814
    @markbroughton5814 ปีที่แล้ว

    My first thought is hustler had wrong blades on. Too short, gap between blade tips too far.

    • @morejelloplease
      @morejelloplease  ปีที่แล้ว

      I made a whole video on that, actually about 5 videos and removed them because hustler was trying to work with me (so I thought at the time). I may repost everything because the whole experience was shitty.

  • @jasonmelancon8096
    @jasonmelancon8096 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Not sure of the issue here but I have a Hustler super z and it will eat that grass up. Looks like an upside down blade cut.

    • @morejelloplease
      @morejelloplease  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Ha, nope. Bent deck, they said it was fine. They bought it back only if I removed my negative review. Pretty shady. Hustler never reached out to me.

  • @muyoso
    @muyoso 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The video doesn't lie, but it also doesn't investigate the issue at all. You don't show the Hustler blades. You don't take the belt off or glance at the deck on the Hustler at all. You could have the blades on backwards for all we know, or the belt routed wrong, or your spindles could be fucked. Investigating that would be an interesting video, but instead you just mowed over and over and over again and t en showed us the Scag blades.

    • @morejelloplease
      @morejelloplease  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @muyoso I have more hustler videos, I showed the blades were on properly. Some videos were put on private or deleted while I waited on resolution from hustler. Bottom line If you think I have nothing better to do than bash hustler then find another channel. I tell it like it is here. Some people have had no problems, I had tons of problems with scag and the hustler was supposed to be the solution however it had its own worse than scag issues, end result the dealer bought it back and I bought a used scag. The hustler was crap, they are owned by MTD now and customer service was absurd.

  • @dreambigbigger1622
    @dreambigbigger1622 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    the scag is fully commercial the hustler s like a bobcat i have

    • @morejelloplease
      @morejelloplease  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Call it what you want, if it doesn't cut, it's not going to stay in my garage. BTW, the fx691 engine found in both is "Commercial "

    • @dreambigbigger1622
      @dreambigbigger1622 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@morejelloplease yes sir I a understand it’s the deck that makes the difference even with the steering wheel mows you can put them twin turbos but the deck and the blades they put on are no good

    • @glclawncarellccentraltexas8766
      @glclawncarellccentraltexas8766 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      scag patriot is not commercial, it's a homeowner line up from scag. Scag Tiger cat is the lowest end on commercial. If you go to turf tiger you be doing serious mowing, brush hog.

  • @godsdozer
    @godsdozer 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Heard someone say it was trumps fault.

  • @dalewiley9208
    @dalewiley9208 ปีที่แล้ว

    Impressive.

  • @nathantaylor860
    @nathantaylor860 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    You cut deeper thicker grass with the Hustler. You ran the Scag through short easy grass. This isn’t a fair comparison at all. You should run both mowers through the same conditions on the same day. This video doesn’t prove anything. Pure click bait.

    • @morejelloplease
      @morejelloplease  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Not really, the hustler grass was slightly more dense, but the blade tip speed is higher and I actually went slower with the hustler. I think you can put two and two together and figure out the hustler didn't cut properly. Sorry you're late to the party,. I have several other cut quality videos, but they are on hold depending on hustler's response to this situation.

    • @sullie35
      @sullie35 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ​@morejelloplease Nathan Taylor is Right. That " very dense 2ft tall grass you used for the Hustler at first looked more like a wheat field compared to the other...
      Compare Apples to Apples No Apples to Oranges.

    • @stonestalker1590
      @stonestalker1590 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@sullie35 my thoughts exactly 💯

    • @LG-fb9yt
      @LG-fb9yt ปีที่แล้ว +2

      and it was dryer dead looking and green grass ain't as tuff! we got 3 hustler 60" ...2 xone's and a superduty ....they are awesome! you should only be cutting one third of the length off..so if at 2.5 ....1.25 is all that you should be cutting off.. and with sharp blades in that scenario wide open full stick and ours are great! most places are not smooth enough for 12mph lol

    • @johnh1254
      @johnh1254 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Ok, so tall, thick dry grass is always gonna be tougher than any green grass that is shorter. Unfair test. Do both at same time in same conditions. Tall, dry grass is some of the toughest conditions to get a clean tight cut! Also, cutting at 4 inch, is always gonna be a sloppy 1 pass cut vs a tight 2.5 in cut.

  • @artnascar9748
    @artnascar9748 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My Cub cadet will kick the hustlers ass.😂. It's a 2013. Hustler you need to get your s*** together.

    • @gl9500
      @gl9500 ปีที่แล้ว

      😂 you are so full of crap just like this guy who made the video.

  • @JD-qw4bo
    @JD-qw4bo 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    what a crappy lawn full of weeds and dirt lmfaooooo

  • @j.garrison7744
    @j.garrison7744 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Why compare one with good blades to the other with bad blades? 🫤

    • @morejelloplease
      @morejelloplease  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @j.garrison7744 they were both sharp the hustler had brand new blades as it was a new mower i tried 4 different types of blades on the hustler and it was junk. The point is, the scag with 60 hour blades but better than a brand new hustler.