I should clarify the CPU thermal info. The ambient temp during testing was 22C therefore actual CPU package temp on the testbench 83C. In the case actual CPU temps hit 100C, which is the max package temp and the CPU thermal throttled, reducing clock speeds to lower temps. Removing the panels and the max package temps only hit 82C.
I just finished building a PC with the Jonsbo C6. It has a Maxsun B450M Challenger motherboard, a Ryzen 5 5500, a Radeon RX 6600 and 16GB of DDR4 RAM. The PSU is a Thermaltake BM2 Bronze 80% semi-modular. My CPU cooling is a low profile ID Cooling IS-55 and my case fans are 3 Artic P12 Slim 120mm bottom, front and top (top exhaust). I ran Ungine's Superposition twice at 1080p, 144hz on medium settings with no overclocks, upscaling or boost and it was very quiet with a average frame rate of 112, could barely hear a fan spinning with my ear 5" away. The GPU temps pegged at 63 degrees C and the CPU temps never went up to 55 degrees. I was actually very impressed. I think the point in the video about doing an entry level or middle-ish PC build in this case is a good one . *I just wanted to add a update. I don't game all that much but I do play a few games of Battlefield a couple of times a week. I ran Battlefield 1 for a few rounds, about an hour and the GPU temps stayed at or below 60 C. The CPU on the otherhand did jump up to 70 C. My bios still needs an update from the original one, so the fan curve is not very adjustable. After the update, I''m told I will have more scalling of the curves but 70 degrees max on a Ryzen 5 5500 isn't terrible by any stretch.*
The exact build I'm looking for; you're my savior! Do you have air-con in your room while running Superposition? What temperature is the ambient? Thanks in advance!
@@therealdeemz_ I ended up not liking how the slim fans work with the poor porosity of the C6 case panels. So i changed the fans out to 3 120mm high static pressure Artic fans. The other change I made was changing the front fan into the exhaust and having the top and bottom fans be the intake fans. It works great now.
Interesting to hear those stats. I went with the AP 201 because I didn't trust my build ability (mainly component choice beforehand) to assure all components fit and it would still be whisper quiet. The AP 201 made that easy and I think it's actually a good case for beginners, although bigger.
The whole point here, Is that isn´t an SFF... You can fit an M-ATX MoBo with an full ATX power suply, also you have to keep in mind that intel stock cooler is crap (not said by me but the whole techtuber media with testings) so you can use a Noctua L12S and improve significatively the temps on cpu. However Jonsbo could have arranged this a little better following the example of the Asus Ap 201 with 1.5mm holes and being more efficient with the cramped space by fitting 2 fans at the bottom/front/top while giving some space in the back for cable management like the Jonsbo D31 mesh... This C6 would have be an absolute success without any compromises for any build from budget to productivity.
Several years ago I was really into SFF builds because I enjoyed the challenge of getting everything in a small case. This C6 would have been appealing if it wasn't for its thermal limitations.
Just want to add this for some folks thinking about building in this case. for PSUs having a modular one is much easier but a non modular one will do just fine as long as you take time to cable manage. use the top fan as your main intake for your CPU cooler. Look into LOW PROFILE CPU COOLERS or 120mm AIOs, stock is usable but with SFF cases it is always advisable to go with a 3rd party cooler since tolerances and airflow is restricted greatly due to lack of space. you can also use a bottom fan for your GPU or leave the space for some cables. Use the front fan as your exhaust to instead of an intake. I've built with this case using a Ryzen 7 5800x OC'ed and my idle temps is around 40c and 78c in full load. Just treat the case like you would other SFF cases and you will be able to achieve decent temps and performance from it.
I'd like to add: SFX PSUs (~63mm height vs 86mm standard ATX PSU) allow for ~100mm cpu cooler heights, I've managed to fit a Noctua DH-D9L (~110mm) by cutting out 6mm of the frame and 3d printing a ATX to SFX (6mm offset) adapter plate. Some sort of rear ~60-70mm out/intake fans would probably also help a lot but there is no mounting and again modification/3d printing is required.
@@zulfahmisudarto3634 I configured mine with an air cooler (due to reliability). I have tried initially building with an AIO, for an AIO your best bet would be to have the AIO on the top, and have the front/side be your exhaust.
I have experience cramming high performance parts in ITX cases from Jonsbo. 1. It is out of the question to rely on stock cpu cooler in this tight space. 2. You need to pick fans with very high static pressure because of all the obstructions. 3. Get an SFX power supply and a Silverstone SST-PP08B bracket. This bracket offsets your PSU to give more CPU cooler clearance and improves ventilation.
@@ElevatedSystems At this price, the build quality and materials are unmatched. And it allows you to invest the saved cash in higher performance parts that actually have an impact on gaming experience. Also it takes very little desk space - people mistake it for a subwoofer- when you live in a small apartment, it matters if your case is 10 liters or 25 liters :D I always strive for value for money and avoid reaching the point of diminishing returns.
I've built a PC with this case using Ryzen 5 5600 in a B550M Pro4 motherboard and it rarely gets to the thermal limits (90 degrees Celsius) outside of synthetic benchmarks. Cooler is stock but I do have 2 of Scythe Kaze Flex Round (which is 140mm but in 120mm frame) as the cooling solution for the case. It does sound like a turbine, though. I've heard that you can get better clearance, airflow and cable management by using a fully modular SFX PSU (I'm currently using ATX PSU, cable management is also a hell for ATX PSUs). No thermal issues for the GPU (XFX 210 AMD RX 6600). Ambient temperature is 32 degrees Celsius since I live near equator. Overall, this case is really good if you want an SFF-MFF PC with limited budget. This case will fit inside a 20-inch suitcase, since that is what I was aiming for.
So, i got the case and was looking for airflow tips, i had to fit an ssd and hdd somehwere which ended up being put on the front panel. I watched the entire thing, and would like to share. The parts i used was a ATX psu modular, and a AM4 m-ATX Mobo, it fits just right inside the case paired with a Rx 580, the problem was cable management and airflow, where there are fans, it is cold and sweet, where there is none, bottom parts near front panel, hot hot hot, especially since my storage is there. I would recommend a few things from experience, if using AMD cpu, a stock cooler like the wraith spire does a good enough job for cooling! Starts at 45c and idles at 55c over time. I would recommend front panel fan to be mounted at the top most part of the front panel. Blowing air in directly onto the CPU cooler. And the top panel fan as a exhaust. However, making the both intake and slapping 3 or 4 40mm fans on the backside of the case might also work as exhaust if using all fan intake suggestion, since there are holes there but no 120mm fan space. Dont forget to put a slim 120mm fan at the bottom of the case blowing directly onto the gpu, most gpus use a zero rpm aproach, so this helps keep that part cool. Summery, either go 3 intake (put small fans in the back), and 1 exhaust at the top. Or 2 intake and 1 exhaust at the top. Cable management is the prime suspect that needs handling here, consider rebuilding your build with cables all figured out beforehand. Strapping them onto any surface would do so that the case can handle more air. Doing so will make the case be quiet, and not sound like an airplane.
Update, i ended up having 2 intake in the front, two slim 120mm fans blowing air IN, and one top a good exhaust fan, you can also put one slim 140mm fan on the bottom if you want as intake to help the gpu, simply put on quiet mode in bios and your done. As for ssd, i put it ontop of the psu attached to the rail, and hhd on the sidepanel next to psu.
You can fit a 120mm aio in this case with ease.. thats kind of the entire appeal, cut the awful dust filter off the bottom and put it up on a few pennies to allow air in the bottom and this case aint bad, are for sure better though lol
Referring the thermal disaster section: my idle thermals: 39-42 C (room temperature 29 Celsius). Gaming test (Cyberpunk, Fhd, max resolution) 70 C degrees. Config: i5-11400, 32GB ram, Zotac RTX 3060 12gb amp white. CPU cooler: 120mm aio, mounted on the front. With ITX motherboard it fits easily and lots of size remains. PSU: FSP 450W SFX. Applied fans: Not counting the AIO fan, I only put one 120mm to the top. It's silent, looks cool with internal purple lighting and it ventilates totally perfect through the mesh panels.
@@blabla-nq5nkMars gaming 120mm aio (that was the only one available in white when I looked for one). It's placed to the front, while a 120mm venti soaks out the air at the top and one other pushes out to the bottom - however, the graphics card does not generate much heat anyway
If the frame is held together with those corner connectors, do you think it's possible to invert the case (swapping the top and bottom panels) so that the GPU can be at the top and PSU at the bottom? I'm interested to know how much this case can be customized, as it looks like it has the potential to rearrange components, though there isn't documentation. It doesn't natively support AIO's but I'm sure those fan brackets could be adjusted to do so. The top side looks like it has space on the rails, it's just up to the inside to have room.
other LP air coolers to consider for the price/performance the Thermalright AXP90-x53 and AXP120-x67. the X53/67 denotes the height of the cooler with the fan installed.
The NZXT H1 still is the best SFF case to me. Haven't found anything that even gets close. Next best for me probably is the Fractal Design Node 202 as it's the only VCR format case that I could find that fits in the VCR compartment under my TV in the spot that used to hold my Xbox One many moons ago.
Of the H1? I don't really have any comparison points but the one I own is a first version. It's gone through housing several systems by know, currently holds a Ryzen 9 3900 XT and Arc A770 system as a secondary PC and still looks absolutely great. I must can't help but marvel at the Arc's default lighting with the purple light wandering along the blue ring of light. Through the H1's perforated side it looks like pixel art
Thats the whole point here, It´s not an SFF... You can fit an M-ATX MoBo with an full ATX power suply, also you have to keep in mind that intel stock cooler is crap (not said by me but the whole techtuber media) so you can use a Noctua L12S and improve significatively the temps. However Jonsbo could have arranged this a little better following the example of the Asus Ap 201 with 1.5mm holes and being more efficient with the cramped space by fitting 2 fans at the bottom/front/top while giving some space in the back for cable management like the Jonsbo D31 mesh... Would have be an absolute success without any compromises for any build from budget to productivity.
The thermaltake core v1 is one of my favorites personally. It's a bit bigger but still is definitely sff. Nzxt h1 reminds me of the series s, I do like it though. I think the fractal terra is pretty sweet too but haven't gotten to build in it.
just picked up this case to build a small home server. cant wait to build in it. I think blocking off the side panel on the motherboard side would improve thermals. Im going to try it.
could you try using a SFX power supply and see if a better cooler can be used such as a noctua / scythe cooler or a 120mm aio going to the top by chance ?
There's a alternative to Jonsbo C6 which is Sumtax VP 100 but still might be bad option in US since it have to be shipped from Thailand but on thing for sure for the same size as C6 it offers better asethetics with tampered glass and aio support and have better cable management with some spaces for 3 sata SSD
Hey there! Used this case and found your review very useful. But you can fit a 120mm AIO in the case, but you are then limited to a Itx gpu and a SFX power supply. My temps are sitting around 84c on cpu Ryzen 5600 and RTX 3060 Itx.
There are many configurations that could optimize the case design however I tried to take into account what the vast majority of ppl spending < $60 for a case would be putting in it. if your spending the cash higher end components it's likely your spending north of $100 on the case to put them in.
@@ElevatedSystems What 100$ case is as small and takes matx-boards with atx psu:s? ITX-boards cost now more than twice the price of a decent matx b650-board
Have you tried to get MB in from the front diagonally? Looks decent, but I would rather go with Inter-Tech IM-1 (and all his copies) for compact size. With some adjustments maybe. This looks too tight with current cooling options. If you've got a little more space on your desk, Jonsbo D31 (~=Asus AP201), Deepcool CH370 or Lian Li Lancool 205M can be interesting mATX options too.
The Fractal Define 7 mini is another good option for a mATX case. It's what I have my current system housed in. It has a solid brushed aluminum front, with side vents, but that doesn't seem to be hurting the dual 140mm front fans pulling in air. If you put your hand in front of one of the vents, you can feel the air being sucked in.
@@RichWhiteUM Yeah, Fractal Design has many great cases. Probably my favorite case builder considering all the great designs lately. Except Torrent nano should have been able to fit mATX with those dimensions. Pricing a bit premium, but probably worth it too.
I actually built using this case. The thermal was a problem as stated in the video, but I was able to fit a 120mm AiO in the front while using an ITX motherboard, this made a huge improvement for the CPU thermals.
@@RichWhiteUM Word of warning, I turned it 90 degrees because it came close to cutting into the GPU space (assume top slot) but it measures so close that in 'theory' it might clear the GPU but I simply did not want to take the chance.
Hi there everyone, I hope some of you can help me with this case, as I plan on to buy it for my PC. I am very limited when it comes to overall space the case can take up and this one seems to be perfect for my table. I want to use a cemi-modular ATX power supply with a slim mATX motherboard (MSI a320-a pro-e to be exact). The cpu is the ryzen 5 1600 in combination with GTX 1050ti (the gpu is a one fan Gigabyte card and I plan on using this setup for some lighter games like GTA V, Minecraft, Sims 4 and so on...and mostly to use some light programs). I was wondering if the AMD's Stealth Wraith would be enough to cool the CPU, considering that it will be obstructed by the ATX PSU (I know buying an SFX would automatically help, but I kinda can't find those at an affordable price) and what configuration for the fans would be best in this case. Should I have all 3 fans as intake or top as exhaust? Could a 120mm AIO fit into the case, considering that I have an ATX psu and that my motherboard's size is comparable to the size of an ITX motherboard (I am talking about the width of the motherboard) If you need any more information on the build and the parts, I will gladly chat about it. Thanks for any help in advance!
is there an opportunity to flip the mobo tray with the psu tray? that booth can breath, psu und cpu? what has jonsbo done? u could do it as a dualchamber layoutand u would hat space for cablemanagement... maaaaaan... why they doin this that way? there must be a wortkaround or something like that
I like these tiny matx cases. I like my desktop on my desk and not on the floor and love the tiny footprint with these. Very minimalist. No glass no bs. These cases may not be popular. Big cases are popular.
I don’t know if you build your pc already but noctua have air coolers for this kind of setup. Don’t need to use stock fan from intel, you’re just asking for a disaster
I think if I'm building in a compact case, then I will buy a better cpu cooler than an original intel coolerbox, no ? Even though my budget is small (it's my case), have better choices of cpu coolers on market, even in aliexpress. Sorry for my bad english, I'm brazilian and no speak fluent english. Do you think with an better low profile cpu cooler, for example an IS50X, I could play games and work (no heavy work, office) all day with this case without temp issues? [rx 5500xt with ryzen 5 5600g, psu atx modular]
if not, recommend other cpu cooler for this ? Or would be better to buy an modular sfx power supply (because that way there would be more space for air circulation) ?
Hi Icaro, i'm using this case. My combo is i3-12100f + Is50x V2, my gpu is 1660S. When play Lol or Cs go, my CPU's temp is near 85* and gpu is 75*. Ambient temp is 32*. This case is quite tight for good airflow But I think you could use it for your work (no heavy work, office) comfortably. Cause by I can use it for Lightroom or Pts all day.
You will have no issues with your build. Mine's almost the same specs (Ryzen 5 5600, RX 6600, stock cooler) but it was okay for daily use and occasional heavy gaming session (BF 2042 and modded Assetto Corsa). In my case, I think it would be better to use an SFX fully modular PSU rather than buying a low-profile cooler since I think what it needs is more breathing room.
I think its pretty amusing to benchmark what is essentially a $30 case with the hardware you loaded it with. Anyone that is going to drop the cash for the mobo cpu ram..ect you have probably isn't going to buy this case. I just bought this case for what you would probably call an "entry level" pc. I wish I know how it would perform with that kind of hardware installed. Thanks for the review. I did get some good info.
I am thinking about using this case for a case swap for my HTPC. I have a mATX B550 motherboard, Ryzen 5600g with included cooler, and 500W ATX PSU. Do you think it will do ok in this case? I don't have a GPU.
Can I get away with an ATX psu and be quiet shadowrock lp cooler 75.4mm? I know you say use a starter build but looking to move in with a i7 9700 stock and either a 3060 12gb or 3060ti.
is there a good option that's slightly larger and allows for a fairly high end system. two cards and custom water cooling with at least one if not two radiators (should the 2nd card get water cooled too).
Instead of junk intel cooler that cant stand i3 at full load, you can put something more decent. The result would be very different. I assembled a system in this case on ryzen 7 5700x + id cooling is55 + 25mm fan. Not a hint of overheating, not even close. Barely 65deg at 78W limit in complete silence.
@@ДаниилГолобурдо Instead of the thin 15mm fan that comes with the cooler, I installed a standard 25mm fan. This gave some gain in airflow and pressure.
I’m wanting to buy this case for my first build but I came upon a comment on Amazon saying that the USB C port wasn’t really a USB C port, and I can’t find anything online that proves or disregards this, can anyone please let me know if the USB C port on the case works, I rely on having one for work and really really really like this case
The case uses a standard USB 3.2 gen 1x2 cable that splits to both the front Type A and Type C ports. That means the type C port is only a 5 Gbps USB 3.2 gen 1. There is no full feature 20 Gbps USB 3.2 gen 2.2 type C port.
This test is incorrect, the problem related to this installation error is logical, the top fan is not correctly positioned. It should be above the cpu. Thus laid, it exhales the air sucked in from the front, air that does not then benefit the cpu.
Yer the crappy Intel stock cooler with the poorly designed standard ILM bends the cpu and creates poor cpu thermal conductivity, Have you tried the same test with one of the intel CPU frames designed to solve this issue, Most people in a small form factor would not use the intel Heatsink or the ILM in the first place.
as the video stated, it is aimed toward people that has a limited budget, including gpu choices, i assumed people with this case would buy mid range gpu that doesn't take much space
You can look into low profile coolers. I only have a Ryzen 7 5800x OC'ed but I am able to cool it decently. I built it with the ID-Cooling IS-60 EVO with fans swapped to Noctuas. Use the top fan as your main intake for CPU. Bottom fan for GPU (if you want) and have the front be your exhaust. My idle temps are at 40c (I live in the Philippines) and max temps I got running Prime95 was around 78c. I also have a full size ATX psu tho it is modular but I've seen vids of non modulars doing just fine as long as you take the time to cable manage them properly.
@@user-uc5tj6ux8w Put two fans, one small one larger, 1cm apart, facing away from each other, blowing in opposite directions, and tell me what happens to the effeciency of both. Don't forget the third (top) fan also exhausting air from the same space.
You can`t flip the PSU, it wont fit the holes for the screws. But if you can, so you need to flip the fan in PCU to pull the air from PCU to CPU cooler
crapy review, should use cpu cooler aftermarket , stock intel 83 c open case , is obvius to fail in this case , or similar . Is like to test F1 car in rally curse . my good
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I should clarify the CPU thermal info. The ambient temp during testing was 22C therefore actual CPU package temp on the testbench 83C. In the case actual CPU temps hit 100C, which is the max package temp and the CPU thermal throttled, reducing clock speeds to lower temps. Removing the panels and the max package temps only hit 82C.
I thought it was clear enough that the panels suck 😂
@@stevedeitry4644 No, that's the problem! They reduce the fan suck! 😁
So not even a 120 or 140mm AIO would fit?
@@DarksurfX Officially No. Realistically you can fit a 120mm AIO in the front but it will bump up against and be restricted by the PSU.
@@DarksurfX 120mm aio will fit easily if you use itx mobo. I use mine with one
I just finished building a PC with the Jonsbo C6. It has a Maxsun B450M Challenger motherboard, a Ryzen 5 5500, a Radeon RX 6600 and 16GB of DDR4 RAM. The PSU is a Thermaltake BM2 Bronze 80% semi-modular. My CPU cooling is a low profile ID Cooling IS-55 and my case fans are 3 Artic P12 Slim 120mm bottom, front and top (top exhaust). I ran Ungine's Superposition twice at 1080p, 144hz on medium settings with no overclocks, upscaling or boost and it was very quiet with a average frame rate of 112, could barely hear a fan spinning with my ear 5" away. The GPU temps pegged at 63 degrees C and the CPU temps never went up to 55 degrees. I was actually very impressed.
I think the point in the video about doing an entry level or middle-ish PC build in this case is a good one .
*I just wanted to add a update. I don't game all that much but I do play a few games of Battlefield a couple of times a week. I ran Battlefield 1 for a few rounds, about an hour and the GPU temps stayed at or below 60 C. The CPU on the otherhand did jump up to 70 C. My bios still needs an update from the original one, so the fan curve is not very adjustable. After the update, I''m told I will have more scalling of the curves but 70 degrees max on a Ryzen 5 5500 isn't terrible by any stretch.*
The exact build I'm looking for; you're my savior!
Do you have air-con in your room while running Superposition? What temperature is the ambient? Thanks in advance!
@@therealdeemz_ I ended up not liking how the slim fans work with the poor porosity of the C6 case panels. So i changed the fans out to 3 120mm high static pressure Artic fans. The other change I made was changing the front fan into the exhaust and having the top and bottom fans be the intake fans. It works great now.
Interesting to hear those stats. I went with the AP 201 because I didn't trust my build ability (mainly component choice beforehand) to assure all components fit and it would still be whisper quiet. The AP 201 made that easy and I think it's actually a good case for beginners, although bigger.
What do you think about top and bottom 140mm fans, such as Arctic's P14? 140mm can reduce the noise.
The whole point here, Is that isn´t an SFF... You can fit an M-ATX MoBo with an full ATX power suply, also you have to keep in mind that intel stock cooler is crap (not said by me but the whole techtuber media with testings) so you can use a Noctua L12S and improve significatively the temps on cpu. However Jonsbo could have arranged this a little better following the example of the Asus Ap 201 with 1.5mm holes and being more efficient with the cramped space by fitting 2 fans at the bottom/front/top while giving some space in the back for cable management like the Jonsbo D31 mesh... This C6 would have be an absolute success without any compromises for any build from budget to productivity.
He could have used fully modular PSU and recommend smaller GPU like Low Profile 4060 and/or Single fan 4060
Several years ago I was really into SFF builds because I enjoyed the challenge of getting everything in a small case. This C6 would have been appealing if it wasn't for its thermal limitations.
Just want to add this for some folks thinking about building in this case.
for PSUs having a modular one is much easier but a non modular one will do just fine as long as you take time to cable manage.
use the top fan as your main intake for your CPU cooler.
Look into LOW PROFILE CPU COOLERS or 120mm AIOs, stock is usable but with SFF cases it is always advisable to go with a 3rd party cooler since tolerances and airflow is restricted greatly due to lack of space.
you can also use a bottom fan for your GPU or leave the space for some cables.
Use the front fan as your exhaust to instead of an intake.
I've built with this case using a Ryzen 7 5800x OC'ed and my idle temps is around 40c and 78c in full load.
Just treat the case like you would other SFF cases and you will be able to achieve decent temps and performance from it.
I'd like to add:
SFX PSUs (~63mm height vs 86mm standard ATX PSU) allow for ~100mm cpu cooler heights, I've managed to fit a Noctua DH-D9L (~110mm) by cutting out 6mm of the frame and 3d printing a ATX to SFX (6mm offset) adapter plate.
Some sort of rear ~60-70mm out/intake fans would probably also help a lot but there is no mounting and again modification/3d printing is required.
can we use sfx psu without 3d printing the plate you mentioned
@@citratrilaksana768 you can, look for a ATX to SFX plate. if you buy a new retail SFX psu they will come with the plate already.
where do you put the fan+radiator for an 120 aio cpu cooler? in the front/bottom/top since the very limited space?
@@zulfahmisudarto3634 I configured mine with an air cooler (due to reliability). I have tried initially building with an AIO, for an AIO your best bet would be to have the AIO on the top, and have the front/side be your exhaust.
i love how it looks like a cube from portal, definitely can see it being painted like a companion cube
I like this idea...I might see about doing something like that now lol
That would be an awesome look
I have experience cramming high performance parts in ITX cases from Jonsbo.
1. It is out of the question to rely on stock cpu cooler in this tight space.
2. You need to pick fans with very high static pressure because of all the obstructions.
3. Get an SFX power supply and a Silverstone SST-PP08B bracket. This bracket offsets your PSU to give more CPU cooler clearance and improves ventilation.
Just curious, but why cram expensive high end hardware into a $30 case?
@@ElevatedSystems At this price, the build quality and materials are unmatched. And it allows you to invest the saved cash in higher performance parts that actually have an impact on gaming experience.
Also it takes very little desk space - people mistake it for a subwoofer- when you live in a small apartment, it matters if your case is 10 liters or 25 liters :D
I always strive for value for money and avoid reaching the point of diminishing returns.
There really is no reason to buy bad fans these days. P12 max is quite cheap.
@ElevateSystems why does it matter if the case cost 30 o 20usd? I don't get it. I prefer it to be cheap and do what I need.
I've built a PC with this case using Ryzen 5 5600 in a B550M Pro4 motherboard and it rarely gets to the thermal limits (90 degrees Celsius) outside of synthetic benchmarks. Cooler is stock but I do have 2 of Scythe Kaze Flex Round (which is 140mm but in 120mm frame) as the cooling solution for the case. It does sound like a turbine, though. I've heard that you can get better clearance, airflow and cable management by using a fully modular SFX PSU (I'm currently using ATX PSU, cable management is also a hell for ATX PSUs). No thermal issues for the GPU (XFX 210 AMD RX 6600). Ambient temperature is 32 degrees Celsius since I live near equator.
Overall, this case is really good if you want an SFF-MFF PC with limited budget. This case will fit inside a 20-inch suitcase, since that is what I was aiming for.
do you have any pics for the build? i wanna see it b4 doing it myself with an atx psu.
@@Lorenzo-qt3jq sure, where can I send you the pics?
@@maamaadamaa you can link an imgur here if thats ok
I would like to see it too
Yes please would like to see photos too. I'm thinking of building with this case but very unsure with the ventilation issue
Just picked one up from Amazon. Looking to put my Erying MATX cpu/mobo combos in it. For a small, but powerful, home server. Thanks for the video!
So, i got the case and was looking for airflow tips, i had to fit an ssd and hdd somehwere which ended up being put on the front panel. I watched the entire thing, and would like to share.
The parts i used was a ATX psu modular, and a AM4 m-ATX Mobo, it fits just right inside the case paired with a Rx 580, the problem was cable management and airflow, where there are fans, it is cold and sweet, where there is none, bottom parts near front panel, hot hot hot, especially since my storage is there. I would recommend a few things from experience, if using AMD cpu, a stock cooler like the wraith spire does a good enough job for cooling! Starts at 45c and idles at 55c over time. I would recommend front panel fan to be mounted at the top most part of the front panel. Blowing air in directly onto the CPU cooler. And the top panel fan as a exhaust. However, making the both intake and slapping 3 or 4 40mm fans on the backside of the case might also work as exhaust if using all fan intake suggestion, since there are holes there but no 120mm fan space. Dont forget to put a slim 120mm fan at the bottom of the case blowing directly onto the gpu, most gpus use a zero rpm aproach, so this helps keep that part cool.
Summery, either go 3 intake (put small fans in the back), and 1 exhaust at the top. Or 2 intake and 1 exhaust at the top.
Cable management is the prime suspect that needs handling here, consider rebuilding your build with cables all figured out beforehand. Strapping them onto any surface would do so that the case can handle more air. Doing so will make the case be quiet, and not sound like an airplane.
Update, i ended up having 2 intake in the front, two slim 120mm fans blowing air IN, and one top a good exhaust fan, you can also put one slim 140mm fan on the bottom if you want as intake to help the gpu, simply put on quiet mode in bios and your done. As for ssd, i put it ontop of the psu attached to the rail, and hhd on the sidepanel next to psu.
I installed a Thermalright AXP120-X67 in my Jonsbo C6. It is the biggest topblower CPU cooler with 6 heatpipes I could find.
What CPU did you put in there? Is there any Thermal throttling?
@@taveralive R7-5700X3D. Up to 85 degrees C in Cinebench. No throttling.
You can fit a 120mm aio in this case with ease.. thats kind of the entire appeal, cut the awful dust filter off the bottom and put it up on a few pennies to allow air in the bottom and this case aint bad, are for sure better though lol
Referring the thermal disaster section: my idle thermals: 39-42 C (room temperature 29 Celsius). Gaming test (Cyberpunk, Fhd, max resolution) 70 C degrees. Config: i5-11400, 32GB ram, Zotac RTX 3060 12gb amp white.
CPU cooler: 120mm aio, mounted on the front. With ITX motherboard it fits easily and lots of size remains.
PSU: FSP 450W SFX.
Applied fans: Not counting the AIO fan, I only put one 120mm to the top.
It's silent, looks cool with internal purple lighting and it ventilates totally perfect through the mesh panels.
which AIO did you use?
@@blabla-nq5nkMars gaming 120mm aio (that was the only one available in white when I looked for one). It's placed to the front, while a 120mm venti soaks out the air at the top and one other pushes out to the bottom - however, the graphics card does not generate much heat anyway
If the frame is held together with those corner connectors, do you think it's possible to invert the case (swapping the top and bottom panels) so that the GPU can be at the top and PSU at the bottom?
I'm interested to know how much this case can be customized, as it looks like it has the potential to rearrange components, though there isn't documentation. It doesn't natively support AIO's but I'm sure those fan brackets could be adjusted to do so. The top side looks like it has space on the rails, it's just up to the inside to have room.
other LP air coolers to consider for the price/performance the Thermalright AXP90-x53 and AXP120-x67. the X53/67 denotes the height of the cooler with the fan installed.
Just an FYI - this case easily fits most 120mm AIO's for watercooling. With an SFX PSU, you can even do a top exhaust in many cases.
The NZXT H1 still is the best SFF case to me. Haven't found anything that even gets close. Next best for me probably is the Fractal Design Node 202 as it's the only VCR format case that I could find that fits in the VCR compartment under my TV in the spot that used to hold my Xbox One many moons ago.
v1 or v2 can i ask
Of the H1? I don't really have any comparison points but the one I own is a first version. It's gone through housing several systems by know, currently holds a Ryzen 9 3900 XT and Arc A770 system as a secondary PC and still looks absolutely great. I must can't help but marvel at the Arc's default lighting with the purple light wandering along the blue ring of light. Through the H1's perforated side it looks like pixel art
@@Oceanborn712 although it's cable management is insane
Thats the whole point here, It´s not an SFF... You can fit an M-ATX MoBo with an full ATX power suply, also you have to keep in mind that intel stock cooler is crap (not said by me but the whole techtuber media) so you can use a Noctua L12S and improve significatively the temps. However Jonsbo could have arranged this a little better following the example of the Asus Ap 201 with 1.5mm holes and being more efficient with the cramped space by fitting 2 fans at the bottom/front/top while giving some space in the back for cable management like the Jonsbo D31 mesh... Would have be an absolute success without any compromises for any build from budget to productivity.
The thermaltake core v1 is one of my favorites personally. It's a bit bigger but still is definitely sff. Nzxt h1 reminds me of the series s, I do like it though.
I think the fractal terra is pretty sweet too but haven't gotten to build in it.
this review is EXACTLY what i was looking for
just picked up this case to build a small home server. cant wait to build in it. I think blocking off the side panel on the motherboard side would improve thermals. Im going to try it.
could you try using a SFX power supply and see if a better cooler can be used such as a noctua / scythe cooler or a 120mm aio going to the top by chance ?
you can mount a 120mm aio to the front without modding the case
This been a nice case for my kid's build I did last year.
Good review. Considering a swap for a low power matx build I’ve got going into the TV. I’m in China, so the price outweighs its shortcomings.
There's a alternative to Jonsbo C6 which is Sumtax VP 100 but still might be bad option in US since it have to be shipped from Thailand
but on thing for sure for the same size as C6 it offers better asethetics with tampered glass and aio support and have better cable management with some spaces for 3 sata SSD
Just checked this one but sadly it's a lot bigger than the C6 and doesn't have type C
I am using the stock Amd wraith spire cooler, fits nicely.
Hey there! Used this case and found your review very useful. But you can fit a 120mm AIO in the case, but you are then limited to a Itx gpu and a SFX power supply. My temps are sitting around 84c on cpu Ryzen 5600 and RTX 3060 Itx.
Would like to have seen what CPU coolers could fit, and their cooling performance, when using a modular SFX PSU.
There are many configurations that could optimize the case design however I tried to take into account what the vast majority of ppl spending < $60 for a case would be putting in it. if your spending the cash higher end components it's likely your spending north of $100 on the case to put them in.
@@ElevatedSystems What 100$ case is as small and takes matx-boards with atx psu:s? ITX-boards cost now more than twice the price of a decent matx b650-board
Have you tried to get MB in from the front diagonally?
Looks decent, but I would rather go with Inter-Tech IM-1 (and all his copies) for compact size. With some adjustments maybe. This looks too tight with current cooling options.
If you've got a little more space on your desk, Jonsbo D31 (~=Asus AP201), Deepcool CH370 or Lian Li Lancool 205M can be interesting mATX options too.
The front isn't wide enough due to the front IO.
The Fractal Define 7 mini is another good option for a mATX case. It's what I have my current system housed in. It has a solid brushed aluminum front, with side vents, but that doesn't seem to be hurting the dual 140mm front fans pulling in air. If you put your hand in front of one of the vents, you can feel the air being sucked in.
@@RichWhiteUM Yeah, Fractal Design has many great cases. Probably my favorite case builder considering all the great designs lately. Except Torrent nano should have been able to fit mATX with those dimensions. Pricing a bit premium, but probably worth it too.
I actually built using this case. The thermal was a problem as stated in the video, but I was able to fit a 120mm AiO in the front while using an ITX motherboard, this made a huge improvement for the CPU thermals.
Yeah, I was thinking that 120mm AIO might be a good fit for this case.
@@RichWhiteUM Word of warning, I turned it 90 degrees because it came close to cutting into the GPU space (assume top slot) but it measures so close that in 'theory' it might clear the GPU but I simply did not want to take the chance.
do you use ATX psu?
@@andreasrichman5628 yes, I used a standard ATX power supply in my build.
Did the rest of the pc run hot or apart from the aio will fans do a good job
Amd + Nvidia with sufficient undervolting should be enough to fix the thermal issues.
Sometimes the parts can be an indirect problem.
Hi there everyone, I hope some of you can help me with this case, as I plan on to buy it for my PC. I am very limited when it comes to overall space the case can take up and this one seems to be perfect for my table. I want to use a cemi-modular ATX power supply with a slim mATX motherboard (MSI a320-a pro-e to be exact). The cpu is the ryzen 5 1600 in combination with GTX 1050ti (the gpu is a one fan Gigabyte card and I plan on using this setup for some lighter games like GTA V, Minecraft, Sims 4 and so on...and mostly to use some light programs). I was wondering if the AMD's Stealth Wraith would be enough to cool the CPU, considering that it will be obstructed by the ATX PSU (I know buying an SFX would automatically help, but I kinda can't find those at an affordable price) and what configuration for the fans would be best in this case. Should I have all 3 fans as intake or top as exhaust? Could a 120mm AIO fit into the case, considering that I have an ATX psu and that my motherboard's size is comparable to the size of an ITX motherboard (I am talking about the width of the motherboard)
If you need any more information on the build and the parts, I will gladly chat about it.
Thanks for any help in advance!
is there an opportunity to flip the mobo tray with the psu tray? that booth can breath, psu und cpu? what has jonsbo done? u could do it as a dualchamber layoutand u would hat space for cablemanagement... maaaaaan... why they doin this that way? there must be a wortkaround or something like that
Nice review!
I like these tiny matx cases. I like my desktop on my desk and not on the floor and love the tiny footprint with these. Very minimalist. No glass no bs. These cases may not be popular. Big cases are popular.
Hi, is it possible to use 120mm push n pull aio liquid cooler in this case with sfx psu? Thx
Is it okay if I just replace the regular air cooler with a water cooler?
I don’t know if you build your pc already but noctua have air coolers for this kind of setup. Don’t need to use stock fan from intel, you’re just asking for a disaster
Would an SFX PSU mounted on front top allow a normal double fan cpu cooler, either in reversed or usual configuration?
thanks for the review
trying to find a compact case that fits a micro atx motherboard and a atx psu, is hard to find
Does the case come with a SFX PSU adapter plate?
No the case doesn't, but usually a SFX PSU comes with the adapter plate.
I think if I'm building in a compact case, then I will buy a better cpu cooler than an original intel coolerbox, no ? Even though my budget is small (it's my case), have better choices of cpu coolers on market, even in aliexpress.
Sorry for my bad english, I'm brazilian and no speak fluent english.
Do you think with an better low profile cpu cooler, for example an IS50X, I could play games and work (no heavy work, office) all day with this case without temp issues?
[rx 5500xt with ryzen 5 5600g, psu atx modular]
if not, recommend other cpu cooler for this ? Or would be better to buy an modular sfx power supply (because that way there would be more space for air circulation) ?
Hi Icaro, i'm using this case. My combo is i3-12100f + Is50x V2, my gpu is 1660S. When play Lol or Cs go, my CPU's temp is near 85* and gpu is 75*. Ambient temp is 32*. This case is quite tight for good airflow
But I think you could use it for your work (no heavy work, office) comfortably. Cause by I can use it for Lightroom or Pts all day.
@@kentblade8106 Thank you! Your feedback was very helpful!
You will have no issues with your build. Mine's almost the same specs (Ryzen 5 5600, RX 6600, stock cooler) but it was okay for daily use and occasional heavy gaming session (BF 2042 and modded Assetto Corsa). In my case, I think it would be better to use an SFX fully modular PSU rather than buying a low-profile cooler since I think what it needs is more breathing room.
@@maamaadamaa Look what a coincidence, today I spent all day looking for an sfx psu !! Haha
Thank you !!
I think its pretty amusing to benchmark what is essentially a $30 case with the hardware you loaded it with. Anyone that is going to drop the cash for the mobo cpu ram..ect you have probably isn't going to buy this case. I just bought this case for what you would probably call an "entry level" pc. I wish I know how it would perform with that kind of hardware installed. Thanks for the review. I did get some good info.
Do you think it would run cooler if I don’t put a gpu in it, I was looking the ryzen 5 5600G
The micro-atx era its arrive ☺
I am thinking about using this case for a case swap for my HTPC. I have a mATX B550 motherboard, Ryzen 5600g with included cooler, and 500W ATX PSU. Do you think it will do ok in this case? I don't have a GPU.
go for deskmini instead
Why not use fully modular PSU?
Can I get away with an ATX psu and be quiet shadowrock lp cooler 75.4mm? I know you say use a starter build but looking to move in with a i7 9700 stock and either a 3060 12gb or 3060ti.
there is only 75mm of cpu cooler clearance so no, that one won't work.
'doesn't support any sized AIO' Seriously? Heard of Corsair H60?
is there a good option that's slightly larger and allows for a fairly high end system. two cards and custom water cooling with at least one if not two radiators (should the 2nd card get water cooled too).
Jonsbo z20 is larger but not sure if it works for you
Instead of junk intel cooler that cant stand i3 at full load, you can put something more decent. The result would be very different. I assembled a system in this case on ryzen 7 5700x + id cooling is55 + 25mm fan. Not a hint of overheating, not even close. Barely 65deg at 78W limit in complete silence.
Where did you installed 25mm fan?
@@ДаниилГолобурдо Instead of the thin 15mm fan that comes with the cooler, I installed a standard 25mm fan. This gave some gain in airflow and pressure.
Very useful straightforward content, thank you very much.
I’m wanting to buy this case for my first build but I came upon a comment on Amazon saying that the USB C port wasn’t really a USB C port, and I can’t find anything online that proves or disregards this, can anyone please let me know if the USB C port on the case works, I rely on having one for work and really really really like this case
The case uses a standard USB 3.2 gen 1x2 cable that splits to both the front Type A and Type C ports. That means the type C port is only a 5 Gbps USB 3.2 gen 1. There is no full feature 20 Gbps USB 3.2 gen 2.2 type C port.
@@ElevatedSystems oh just that, TSYM I was just worried about not being able to plug my USB C headset and having to buy another one for work, Ty!!
This test is incorrect, the problem related to this installation error is logical, the top fan is not correctly positioned. It should be above the cpu. Thus laid, it exhales the air sucked in from the front, air that does not then benefit the cpu.
The top fan dosen't fit over the CPU. It's blocked by the PSU.
Sfx Psu + Asus Tuf Gaming b550m with Noctua fan + top and bottom BeQuiet Sahdow Wing 140 front Lian Li Infinity perfect ang rx 6600
all that mesh leaves zero negative pressure. NOT GOOD. Great review tho! cheers!
anybody knows if the wraith stealth amd cooler would fit with a full size psu?
it fits, see my other comment
Yer the crappy Intel stock cooler with the poorly designed standard ILM bends the cpu and creates poor cpu thermal conductivity, Have you tried the same test with one of the intel CPU frames designed to solve this issue, Most people in a small form factor would not use the intel Heatsink or the ILM in the first place.
is this like a nr200 clone?
This case reminds me with cooler master H100, same layout and even same hassle to assemble
max gpu lenght without front fan?
flip the psu to pull cpu heat out of the case.
What is the fan model in the front?
Hdplex gan aio would improve this case instead of the atx psu
Great review, very helpful!
we couldnt use a 120mm aio?
yes. i have in mines
255mm GPU clearance?? That's a deal breaker >-
as the video stated, it is aimed toward people that has a limited budget, including gpu choices, i assumed people with this case would buy mid range gpu that doesn't take much space
Do aio like deepcool le300 will fit?
Okay i love this case, but the problem is CPU cooler for Ryzen 9 5900X
there is a comment about people successfully fitted this case with 120mil aio, it would be enough for 9 5900x i think
You can look into low profile coolers. I only have a Ryzen 7 5800x OC'ed but I am able to cool it decently.
I built it with the ID-Cooling IS-60 EVO with fans swapped to Noctuas. Use the top fan as your main intake for CPU. Bottom fan for GPU (if you want) and have the front be your exhaust. My idle temps are at 40c (I live in the Philippines) and max temps I got running Prime95 was around 78c.
I also have a full size ATX psu tho it is modular but I've seen vids of non modulars doing just fine as long as you take the time to cable manage them properly.
thanks you save my money.
Can fit a 120mm AIO in it if you use ITX so the cpu temp is not a problem
Intel A750 i3-12100f build time….
13400F 60C with stock fan? really?
As I mentioned a few times, that’s a Delta T (ΔT), the temp after subtracting the ambient air temp.
There is no design here ..just a puzzle based on a OC build and what fits in it
MSI MPG MINI MOTHER BOARD 1200 LGA 10TH GEN CPU I5 1200 LGA 3050 MSI VENTUS 2X XS 8G OC 16GB RAM TEAMGROUP M.2 1TB TEAMGOUP 550W EVGA BP 80+ BRONZE NOCTUA NH-9I CHROMAX BLACK 1200 LGACPU COOLER FOR CUBE TOWER BUILDS
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useless case format. deciding if you use a fan or a hdd ssd? nuts. no aio support at all? nuts.. the edges are ugly.
Should have flipped the psu to where the fan/intake was directly over the CPU so that it helps exhaust air from inside the chassis more effectively.
So the PSU and CPU cooler were fighting each other for the same small sliver of airflow?
That's not how airflow works, lol. They don't "fight each other". @@ElevatedSystems
@@user-uc5tj6ux8w Put two fans, one small one larger, 1cm apart, facing away from each other, blowing in opposite directions, and tell me what happens to the effeciency of both. Don't forget the third (top) fan also exhausting air from the same space.
You can`t flip the PSU, it wont fit the holes for the screws. But if you can, so you need to flip the fan in PCU to pull the air from PCU to CPU cooler
@@ДаниилГолобурдо You should never flip the fan in a PSU. They are designed to blow air down onto specific components, not to pull air past them.
crapy review, should use cpu cooler aftermarket , stock intel 83 c open case , is obvius to fail in this case , or similar . Is like to test F1 car in rally curse . my good
Actually in a most mesh cases with the addition of case fans the stock cooler typically works better.
Too much bull with this guy
You used shitty motherboard,what did you expect.
Just because motherboard is Asus and looks great does NOT mean it is great.
First for once