I was under the impression that "Aelia" continued to be used, at least for official use throughout late Roman history. For instance, it's on that famous Roman road map which is dated to around 400(I can't remember the name of it) and I believe it's mentioned in the Notitia(395-423), and possibly in John Lydus's history of offices. And I'm sure there are references in the Justinianic law code that are post-Constantinian or even from his own time. It would be rather bizarre for the Arabs to suddenly rename the city Aelia if that designation had fallen out of use 2-3 centuries earlier.
Flavius: Didn't King Herod (either The Great or Agrippa, or both) authorize the offering of incense to the emperor at the Temple Mount? It seems there were periods when Jews of high station would allow pagan offerings as a way of currying favor with the sovereign du jour (for example, during the reign of Antiochus III). Was this a constant divisive issue with the Jewish priesthood? Thank you for the video; I was looking for information about the Temple of Venus over Christ's tomb and found your video.
The octagonal shape of the Dome of the Rock strongly suggests that it was in fact the Roman temple to Jupiter. Octagonal design was typical Roman architecture that was also borrowed by the Christians - an octagonal shaped Christian church was in the 1990-s found next to the road from Jerusalem to Caesarea (if I remember correctly). The Arabs might have just repurposed the still standing Roman temple, which explains why Ibn Battuta describes it as "the most wonderful... strangest design" - to a Muslim eye.
@@JZA-om5qx You realize Jesus was a Jewish Apocalyptic Preacher, and the Christian god is the Jewish god and we're talking about returning Jerusalem to a Pagan city with a temple to Zeus right....
@@mountedpatrolman Nop , o guess You have your jew versión bcs Jesús Yêshu Joshua wasnt jew but Essenien and They Made The primitive Christians in Aelia Capitolia. Sincronism of Zeus was always a way.
@@JZA-om5qx Christianity is a sect of Judaism, Jewish Apocalypticism. The book of Hebrews "it is evident that our Lord arose from the tribe of Judah . . ." Jesus was taken to the temple as an infant according to the Jewish law of Moses (Luke 2:22). Christianity is a Jewish Death cult.
Loved the points of history from the written word from the time period , very good evidence and will have to read them. On the Temple Mount, I think the Temple of Jupiter was also the Second Temple, as Herod(s) were approved by Roman Senate to rule Judea and Herod(s) had to defend the temple against Judaism supporters stealing its eagles(Written by historian Flavius Josephus ), Eagle is symbol of Jupiter as well as Rome. Romans temples usually had more than one god that worshipers could support, where the name Pantheon came from "many gods or pagan". But had a primary god, this being Jupiter. I also think during the razing of Jerusalem(A Canaanite God(s) name, not Jewish or Hebrew name) The Romans had enough, since Herod was dead and no one was defending the Second Temple from stealing Jupiter's idols and took its artifacts(which included Judaism idols as noted on Arch of Titus) and moved them to the temple of Jupiter in Rome. I even think Judaism supporters were allowed to worship in Rome(Judaism artifacts found in Jewish grave sites) under the Pantheon of Jupiter. But this of course razed by the Vandals taking Jupiter and Judaism idols to who knows where.
I always marvel at someone like Eusebius flagrantly making up stories as if it's proof of his virtue. Another big fat liar for "Truth." He knew perfectly well that the temple of Venus had nothing to do with a supposed carpenter centuries before. Same with the people who attributed the gospels to specific characters and other church "traditions."
Quite so. Its difficult taking Eusebius seriously on many things as the Life of Constantine is more of a hagiography than an impartial biography. (Constantine's murder of his wife and son just isn't discussed) Nevertheless an important document as its a product of that time.
@@FlaviusClaudiusJulianus361 Yet even in that hagiography Eusebius recorded atrocities committed against the pagans, notably demolition of temples and forcing their priests to conform to the new Constantinian order. But one temple, that of the River Nile in Egypt, those troops did even worse! Can't say exactly what it is because of the algorithm.
I doubt very much that the Church of the Holy Sepulchre was the place where Jesus was historically crucified but it could have been his initial burial place because Archaeologists have determined that the Sepulchre itself and the graves of Joseph of Arimathea and Nicodemus, both in the same church, were parts of a large burial network that was the sepulchre of the court (burial tomb set aside by the Sanhedrin for executed criminals). Josephus claims that the Jews even took down those the Romans crucified and buried them before sunset.
15:17 I don't think the perforated stone where the Jews wailed and anointed the stone was the Wailing Wall given that it's not a single perforated stone but rather a stacked series of quarried and dressed stone blocks. Rather, I believe it was the rock that is now housed within the Dome of the Rock mosque. And yes, I've seen pictures of it and it is definitely perforated. And unlike scholars after seeing this rock I am also convinced that it is the Golgotha/Calvary the gospels talk about. After all, in Mark and Matthew the Centurion who remarked on Jesus' divinity had seen the Temple curtain get torn in two, for these two Gospels mention that he had seen this.
Must admit it would have been interesting to see some Old Testament-style miracles as God hurled back the Roman legions from sacking the Temple in 70CE but curiously nothing. Even Jesus seemed to have no interest in the Temple dedicated to him (if we assume he was divine).
Mmmm, possibly many folks did although separation probably took place well before that as Roman intellectuals like Tacitus and Pliny etc refer to them as entirely separate from Jews.
Thank you for this information. However the only difference is the Jerusalem which was destroyed by Titus vespasian in 70 AD is different from the one which Hadrian built. The one which was destroyed was actually in Karas region in Namibia in a place known as Keetmanshoop and Hadrian copied it to the very new location which is what you have shown. This happened in the very beginning of White washing era. The location in Namibia is still desolate as per Jeremiah 9:11. There are some residues of the burnt hilly cities in Namibia which includes also Beersheba. Some Caucasians hide that Hadrian was born in Africa and He was Black, though there some sculptural images on the internet that shows he was white. Jerusalem was in Africa the one which Hadrian created is pagan and a copycat. The Jerusalem in the Middle East is Hadrian's Jerusalem (Aelia Capitolina) dedicated to the god Jupiter in honor of all that is Rome.
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Thank you for another great video. Please work on the volume.
@@Saysonow Thx for letting me know on the volume. Too loud or too low?
@@FlaviusClaudiusJulianus361 Too low. And thanks for replying. I want to hear your voice clearly.
I was under the impression that "Aelia" continued to be used, at least for official use throughout late Roman history. For instance, it's on that famous Roman road map which is dated to around 400(I can't remember the name of it) and I believe it's mentioned in the Notitia(395-423), and possibly in John Lydus's history of offices. And I'm sure there are references in the Justinianic law code that are post-Constantinian or even from his own time.
It would be rather bizarre for the Arabs to suddenly rename the city Aelia if that designation had fallen out of use 2-3 centuries earlier.
Would love to read period books and writings from the Aelia Capitolina era.
Thank you indeed for this account and additional info extended! Excellent point of departure for any more detailed investigations.
Glad you liked it! Recently came back from an interesting trip to Israel so stand by for more Roman-period videos on Judea
Back in the saddle. Very interesting material, and a nice, smooth presentation.
Thank you kindly Sir! Getting a little better at this game as time goes on!
Nice! Love to see a new video. Brilliant work dude.
Thank you my friend. Feedback and comments help to keep the momentum going.
Extremely informative, thank you for putting this together!
Thx. Glad you enjoyed it!
Flavius: Didn't King Herod (either The Great or Agrippa, or both) authorize the offering of incense to the emperor at the Temple Mount? It seems there were periods when Jews of high station would allow pagan offerings as a way of currying favor with the sovereign du jour (for example, during the reign of Antiochus III). Was this a constant divisive issue with the Jewish priesthood? Thank you for the video; I was looking for information about the Temple of Venus over Christ's tomb and found your video.
Thanks for putting this together - a really interesting story!
No problem! Appreciate you taking time to watch.
Enlightening presentation! Thank you very much.
You're very welcome!
Great video and very informative. It would be interesting to see a video about Galerius. :)
Thank you! Topics for future videos are always welcome :)
The octagonal shape of the Dome of the Rock strongly suggests that it was in fact the Roman temple to Jupiter. Octagonal design was typical Roman architecture that was also borrowed by the Christians - an octagonal shaped Christian church was in the 1990-s found next to the road from Jerusalem to Caesarea (if I remember correctly). The Arabs might have just repurposed the still standing Roman temple, which explains why Ibn Battuta describes it as "the most wonderful... strangest design" - to a Muslim eye.
Thanks for that! Fascinating.
Make Jerusalem Aelia Capitolina again!
That gets my vote! Lovely name for a city.
I SUPPORT. THIS IS THE RIGHT PLACE TO CHRIST AND GOD ❤
@@JZA-om5qx You realize Jesus was a Jewish Apocalyptic Preacher, and the Christian god is the Jewish god and we're talking about returning Jerusalem to a Pagan city with a temple to Zeus right....
@@mountedpatrolman Nop , o guess You have your jew versión bcs Jesús Yêshu Joshua wasnt jew but Essenien and They Made The primitive Christians in Aelia Capitolia. Sincronism of Zeus was always a way.
@@JZA-om5qx Christianity is a sect of Judaism, Jewish Apocalypticism. The book of Hebrews "it is evident that our Lord arose from the tribe of Judah . . ." Jesus was taken to the temple as an infant according to the Jewish law of Moses (Luke 2:22). Christianity is a Jewish Death cult.
Neat stuff
Thx!
Loved the points of history from the written word from the time period , very good evidence and will have to read them. On the Temple Mount, I think the Temple of Jupiter was also the Second Temple, as Herod(s) were approved by Roman Senate to rule Judea and Herod(s) had to defend the temple against Judaism supporters stealing its eagles(Written by historian Flavius Josephus ), Eagle is symbol of Jupiter as well as Rome. Romans temples usually had more than one god that worshipers could support, where the name Pantheon came from "many gods or pagan". But had a primary god, this being Jupiter. I also think during the razing of Jerusalem(A Canaanite God(s) name, not Jewish or Hebrew name) The Romans had enough, since Herod was dead and no one was defending the Second Temple from stealing Jupiter's idols and took its artifacts(which included Judaism idols as noted on Arch of Titus) and moved them to the temple of Jupiter in Rome. I even think Judaism supporters were allowed to worship in Rome(Judaism artifacts found in Jewish grave sites) under the Pantheon of Jupiter. But this of course razed by the Vandals taking Jupiter and Judaism idols to who knows where.
Much damage was sadly done by Alaric and the Visigoths to pagan temples during the sack of Rome although they left churches alone being Christians.
Me encanta ,queria saber mas sobre ese pais ;gracias por el video :)))
Thx! Hope to do more videos on Aelia Capitolina in future.
I always marvel at someone like Eusebius flagrantly making up stories as if it's proof of his virtue. Another big fat liar for "Truth." He knew perfectly well that the temple of Venus had nothing to do with a supposed carpenter centuries before. Same with the people who attributed the gospels to specific characters and other church "traditions."
Quite so. Its difficult taking Eusebius seriously on many things as the Life of Constantine is more of a hagiography than an impartial biography. (Constantine's murder of his wife and son just
isn't discussed) Nevertheless an important document as its a product of that time.
@@FlaviusClaudiusJulianus361 Yet even in that hagiography Eusebius recorded atrocities committed against the pagans, notably demolition of temples and forcing their priests to conform to the new Constantinian order. But one temple, that of the River Nile in Egypt, those troops did even worse! Can't say exactly what it is because of the algorithm.
I doubt very much that the Church of the Holy Sepulchre was the place where Jesus was historically crucified but it could have been his initial burial place because Archaeologists have determined that the Sepulchre itself and the graves of Joseph of Arimathea and Nicodemus, both in the same church, were parts of a large burial network that was the sepulchre of the court (burial tomb set aside by the Sanhedrin for executed criminals). Josephus claims that the Jews even took down those the Romans crucified and buried them before sunset.
I think, if surveyed, the tombs of the Temple time, around Jerusalem, point to a location, where the Jewish Quarter is today. Not on the Temple Mount
Yes the bulk of the city was to the west of the Temple Mount.
15:17 I don't think the perforated stone where the Jews wailed and anointed the stone was the Wailing Wall given that it's not a single perforated stone but rather a stacked series of quarried and dressed stone blocks. Rather, I believe it was the rock that is now housed within the Dome of the Rock mosque. And yes, I've seen pictures of it and it is definitely perforated. And unlike scholars after seeing this rock I am also convinced that it is the Golgotha/Calvary the gospels talk about. After all, in Mark and Matthew the Centurion who remarked on Jesus' divinity had seen the Temple curtain get torn in two, for these two Gospels mention that he had seen this.
Yes the stones making the wall are largely from Herod the Great's time
Why all is pagan if is out of reach of Israel and old Testament. ? This was created by Gods Christ love. This is the right place ❤️☦️
Must admit it would have been interesting to see some Old Testament-style miracles as God hurled back the Roman legions from sacking the Temple in 70CE but curiously nothing. Even Jesus seemed to have no interest in the Temple dedicated to him (if we assume he was divine).
Christians at this time was just considered Jews.
Mmmm, possibly many folks did although separation probably took place well before that as Roman intellectuals like Tacitus and Pliny etc refer to them as entirely separate from Jews.
Nop. Primitive Christianity was always separated of them
@@JZA-om5qx Christianty is Jewish Apocalypticism. If your going to worship something at least know what the hell it is your worshiping.
Thank you for this information. However the only difference is the Jerusalem which was destroyed by Titus vespasian in 70 AD is different from the one which Hadrian built. The one which was destroyed was actually in Karas region in Namibia in a place known as Keetmanshoop and Hadrian copied it to the very new location which is what you have shown. This happened in the very beginning of White washing era. The location in Namibia is still desolate as per Jeremiah 9:11. There are some residues of the burnt hilly cities in Namibia which includes also Beersheba. Some Caucasians hide that Hadrian was born in Africa and He was Black, though there some sculptural images on the internet that shows he was white. Jerusalem was in Africa the one which Hadrian created is pagan and a copycat. The Jerusalem in the Middle East is Hadrian's Jerusalem (Aelia Capitolina) dedicated to the god Jupiter in honor of all that is Rome.