I like that you are willing to try these experiments for us. These are things that we like the speculate, but don't necessarily want to take the time or spend the money to do so ourselves. Appreciate the vid.
It’s good to document this, many folks believe the PSA grade they get is FINAL. They need to understand these are $15/ hr college kids looking at your card for 15 to 30 seconds. If you feel strongly, snap and resub. Nice video.
Completely agree! I’ve always wanted to try it out and kept hearing that it could never work on serial numbered cards. Glad to finally take the chance and learn from it!
I just sent in a sub and the cards that came back 10s were the ones that cost the most, which were probably looked at for more than a minute. Had a buddy snap a bgs 8.5 and get a psa 10, thats when i realized grading is to subjective
Thanks for clarifying on the Gemamint thing. I was wondering the same RE: whether it's worth sending cards to regrade if each card has that "imprint" now.
Not only the no human error but the scoring system /1000 is super cool cause in their system not all 9s are the same and not all 10s are the same an their system lets you know which card is of the absolute highest quality !
@@jahmanglass5 exactly it's going to be the future for all card grading in 5 years. They will not re grade any cards whatsoever which is great because they believe on grading it 1x only no need to waste money grading multiple times.
PSA has a grade guarantee that if you buy a PSA 10 and you look over the card and think they made a mistake, you can send it to them and they will look it over. If they believe you are correct, they will either pay you the market value of the card at the current grade, or they will regrade the card and give you the difference in what the new grade is vs. what it was originally graded at.
This is an amazing business practice. Literally no downside to going with PSA when they have guarantees in place. BGS recently regraded a recase/reholder sub of mine and I lost thousands. Will never use them again.
@@jdsun1 I don't know if you heard, but they are starting to think twice about it. Apparently some guy got them to slab a fake Magic/Bird rookie card as a PSA 10 and now the owner of the card wants $500,000 from PSA because of it. PSA doesn't think they should have to pay for it.
Use heavier duty clippers. Snip top two corners then use a heavier duty flathead. I even snip down the sides and then it lifts right off and don’t even need the screwdriver
That’s good to hear you’ve had some luck with it too! I’m definitely not going to shy away from 8’s/9’s if they look super clean. I suppose this goes back to the ole “buy the card not the grade”
@@carlsoncards it's happening to me alot anymore. I've been shying away from cracking them out but thanks to this video, I'm now willing to do it now. For the right candidates. Thanks for sharing this with us
GOod video! I enjoy the channel. Have you sent any serial numbered cards that have photos in the the PSA database back for grading? I have some to send as well... But pretty sure they'll be checking serials.
I respect your honesty about PSA needing to be tougher on some of the grades. In the last year I've probably seen 1000 slabbed 10's that look like 8's listed on ebay/YT vids. It makes my stomach turn when I see people bidding crazy for a card that clearly doesn't resemble the grade. Sucks that you lost some money on the regrades, but at least you will feel better about reselling it to someone at its legitimate grade than ripping someone off with a grade the card shouldn't of got in the first place.
A saw a PSA 10 slab on PWCC last week that looked like a 7 or 8. It sold for over $300 when realistically it should be worth $5. I have about 30 of them ungraded in better condition. No point in grading them though as they'll all get 9's which are worthless.
This is an excellent video! Definitely a great strategy and seemed to work. You gain 3 times the value roughly from PSA 9 to PSA 10. So even if 25-30% return as 10s, the resell value on better card’s definitely make it worth it. New to the channel. Will definitely be following your future content. Well done my friend. Hope you’re having a great week
The only thing I would hesitate for is thinking especially with the numbered cards, they can probably pretty easily check what number your card is vs your earlier submissions. I'm sure they know If they graded a card based on its number.
It’s “ an opinion” They laugh all the way to the bank knowing that the “ opinion” excuse protects them from the fact it’s a huge scam…. keep resubmitting folks😉
I use a magnifying glass with light when I want a regrade. You can see a lot that way. Or jewelers loop some people say. I have a 1993 topps derek jeter that graded a 9 psa. I actually sent it into BGS because I think it has a chance at a BGS 10.
I had a random pop up come along. A 2003 Donruss Team Heroes Master Set Albert Pujols #'d to 20. Came back a PSA 7. 7th one graded with PSA and 2 each of higher grades.
Great educational video. Fun to watch as well. Shows you their 'expert' graders are 50/50 in getting grades right which i had known for ages and that's why i never graded my stuff. But question for you: i was going to grade a few cards that i want to sell. How strict do you think psa is with declared value? Seems like you sent in for $15 grading but one was obviously over $500 value. Would appreciate your fb as i was going to submit some cards and I'm afraid I'll overpay for grading only for my cards to fall below $500 later
Thanks you and glad you enjoyed! Great question. Personally I’ve seen they’ve really let up on upcharges. I think it would have to be a significantly obvious & heavily transacted card for them to upcharge at this point. They are less likely to upcharge stuff that doesn’t sell often. For instance a Lebron topps chrome rookie will be upcharged but a random rare parallel of high value might not.
Great video, Austin. I haven’t tried cracking a PSA Slab yet, but I have heard they are the trickiest to crack. I did with an SGC one and it was easy. Went from a SGC 9.5 to a PSA 9 unfortunately. Just saw the Indy Midwest Monster is set for June 8-9, you going to set up again?
BGS is the hardest I’ve had to do! I’d love to make it but actually will be running my show that same weekend. Hope to see you again at a show soon though!
Good video. I always tell people to buy the card not the grade, specifically for your PC. I have Brady rookies in a PSA7 or 8 that look better than 9s. Grading is so subjective that if you catch the right grader on the right day you are gonna get 10s, but the reverse can be true as well.
I just came across your channel as that was an interesting video. I’m subscribing to you. I have to ask a question as an older collector who doesn’t buy much ultra modern. A lot of those cards you sold were not rookies. Do people buy alot of non-rookie ultra modern cards? I’m interested to see what the demand for those cards will be 10-15 years from now as my #1 rule since the 80’s was only collect rookie cards (unless it’s a GOAT like Jordan or those Brady cards you have). Maybe I’m just out of touch with ultra modern. Lol
Hey Chris! Glad you enjoyed and great to have you here! I’ve had a lot of luck selling non-rookie cards and also personally enjoy collecting them. Seems like currently there is quite a bit of demand assuming they are low print/serial numbered. You have a great question here, and I am definitely not certain! The one thing I thought of when reading this is that I know demand is still high on 90’s (non-rookie) inserts for key players. Barry Sanders, Kobe Bryant, Shaq etc come to mind. Will that stay consistent? Your guess is as good as mine! 😀
Yes, the newer collectors seem to be aiming for the first rookie cards now. But, I'm an old collector like you, and if I can snag a card especially an auto that's a few years later.... I'm all over it! Mike Trout for example. I wanted his auto, and I waited till I got a good deal, for a newer card/auto. I'm also learning that buying boxes of cards for $300 is painful most of the time. I mean, to get a good hit anymore, you gotta buy a case these days. I was spending a ton of money on these boxes and kept walking away losing my tail. Now? I just save up and spend $300-$400 on a card that's worth it. I mean, spend $300 for a box of cards and only get $50 in true value. It's like playing scratch tickets!
I feel the problem with snapping something you didn't send in yourself you're not going to have the pre-grade history knowledge compared to obviously something you sent in personally. So in that case you need to be microscopically sure you have more that 50% chance at a bump up to be worth the cost. As once it's cracked you're able to see a whole lot more that possibly the slab was covering up... but ultimately as we know your playing into the hands of the beholder (grader) at PSA on much he's a fan of you Manning's and Brady's j/k. Another awesome vid, congrats on the '13 Finest Brady Camo!
I totally agree! You really have to look everything over that much better and also take a leap of faith. The one benefit I think is that there’s always a chance the other person did not prep the card well/if at all. I.e. in this case still had some smudges and fingerprints because the other person didn’t wipe it I’d assume. Thanks!!
@@carlsoncards That's the other thing... I know SGC cleans and wipes down cards before capsulation but does lazy PSA not anymore? Thought they did the same?
@@sportscardfactory I'm not sure! I've actually never heard that the company does it themselves. Personally, I'd prefer if they didn't so they don't touch the cards any more than they need to ha.
@@carlsoncards Yeah SGC has actually confirmed they do it and shown them physically doing on many videos showing their process. Only heard PSA does it but never confirmed. Regardless, like said we should all be wiping ours down prior to submitting
From a cracking standpoint, you are being a little too careful on how close to the corner you are “snapping” you can be a little further down. Also, you can undo the whole plastic with the flathead if you run it all the way so you are not risking bending the card or scratching it by only pulling the card with the plastic halfway open.
Fantastic video! I’ve finished it, and I agree with your sentiments at the end. I just completed this same video. My cards are on the way from PSA currently to complete the video. I actually shouted you out in it being a reason I did another part of the submission, I’m trying my own pregrading and rating system based on your large 500 card order. Something about your presentation resonated with me! Must be the engineering and number crunching side
@@grindstone11 thanks for the kind words! Glad you enjoyed the video and agree with the takeaways I had. I’ll definitely have to check that out once you finish it! I’ll sub now.
I got a PSA 10 on a card which has a stain on the front and corner wear on the back. They upcharged me $300 on it and it only cost me $15. PSA are a disgrace.
@@carlsoncards well when I went to school 10 out of 10 was 100% perfect. I think Beckett does a pretty good job of getting the grade right but those clowns at PSA are handicapped because they don't require their employees to learn fractional numbers making it impossible to get the grade right even if they wanted to.
I fight everyday in this hobby for PSA and other graders to just offer sub-grades or grader notes to it’s customers smart enough to utilize the service. With 1000000 cards being graded a month, it’s going to be good in the future to be able to differentiate between all the 9 & 10’s soon to flood the market. All graders have to come up with some system to have an overall grade and those figures aren’t kept in their head. They have to specify these sub-grades to get a final overall grade. Not to mention it’s impossible to get a perfect 10 if the company doesn’t have to share subs. Everything’s just a gem mint 10. Just my advice for a better hobby future.
I agree on at least grader notes. Would be super handy and literally they would just have to mark a drop down option or something. I.e. “What detracted from Grade?” - “Corners/Edges/Surface, etc
If y'all want full transparency in how an why your cards got the grades they got you need to use TAG ! Theyre gonna be the future of the grading industry in the future !! Just a way better service than psa and more transparent with why youre cards got the grades they got !!
Well not supporting a grading service that dose exactly what you are fighting for other companies to do is kinda dumb no offense but why not support a company that is doing it 100% right an the way you're actually looking to have it done lol 😆
PSA is a joke. How can a card's grade change that much. I've seen cracked 6s returned as 10s. PSA is not a grading company, it's a gambling company. - WW
I've cracked loads of PSA 6's and had them regraded as 9's and 10's. They've damaged my cards in the past. They just ignored my emails. Cost me thousands
I see you are paying to the Pop report, so are you going to report to PSA that you got them to regrade your cards so they take the old grades off the report so other collectors don't get screwed by an incorrect Pop report?
@@carlsoncards I'm sorry, I must have missed it. Where in the video did you say you sent them the old cert numbers to have them taken off the Pop Report?
@@wlewis19760 No worries! when I was cracking them actually! I mentioned always save the labels because you can send them back with your next order to have them remove the card from the pop report.
I thought PSA kept logs of the numbered cards they grade? Like if they see the Brady Camo # 9/10 come through again, they just look it up and see they had previously graded it as an 8.
For numbered cards, you'd think PSA would use the 'number' as a unique identifier since there'd only be one with that number (e.g. 9/10). Congrats, thanks for sharing.
That's what I always though too. But then again it makes sense you have to "re-grade" every time because what if someone snaps it and damages the card? Thanks for tuning in!
Not entirely true. Panini has at least double printed some numbered cards in some sets as there have been a few cases where two cards have shown up with the exact same number.(eg. 9/10 & 9/10)
@@buffalobill9793 those were printing mistakes on the handful of stories I've seen. Cards that were due to be destroyed getting accidentally released and the one was all of them had that same number on them but the amount produced was still correct
You're still better off cross grading from csg/bgs/ cgs to psa or vice versa. No 9.5 grade from psa and 8.5 not being used on modern makes the going that route easier than straight regarding. But you do highlight the biggest problem in grading overall is people buying the grade not the card. How many times you see a psa 10 that looks like crap yet it'll still sell at psa 10 prices. That's an issue that unless the buyers correct, won't get fixed.
I've watched a lot of your videos, you grade a ton of cards....there's no way you missed dents like that on the back of the '08 Brady green refractor, and there's no way PSA originally graded it a 9 if it had that dent. They damaged it in encapsulation, or sometime after grading. I'd agree that 8 is a fair grade....now, but originally it didn't get graded a 9 with that dent. Sorry, but I'd say that's why it went down a grade.
seems like these should have been submitted at a higher fee than $15...if the cards you are showing are already worth $300 to $500, that is over the $199 limit...sure you can do it and if they upcharge you they upcharge you, but I think with higher dollar cards, submitting a the proper rate could get you "better" grades...my 2 cents
Shouldn’t you be able to send same card in multiple times and get same grade? That doesn’t seem like a professional service. Why don’t people stop all the bs grading and just go raw ?
BAHAHAHAHA all you need to do to crack these slabs is a table vice and a flat head screw driver!! I laugh every time I see these people on TH-cam doing this like come on lol
I like that you are willing to try these experiments for us. These are things that we like the speculate, but don't necessarily want to take the time or spend the money to do so ourselves. Appreciate the vid.
You’re welcome! I’ve always wondered myself and finally had some good candidates to test it out :)
Thanks for doing this Austin. Interesting video.
thanks for tuning in! Glad you enjoyed.
Some nice wins!!! Congrats man!
Thanks Colton!! Hope you are having a great weekend. Cheers!
It’s good to document this, many folks believe the PSA grade they get is FINAL. They need to understand these are $15/ hr college kids looking at your card for 15 to 30 seconds. If you feel strongly, snap and resub. Nice video.
Completely agree! I’ve always wanted to try it out and kept hearing that it could never work on serial numbered cards. Glad to finally take the chance and learn from it!
Want Brady or manning rookies? Have some bgs 9.5 and psa 10 rooks
I just sent in a sub and the cards that came back 10s were the ones that cost the most, which were probably looked at for more than a minute. Had a buddy snap a bgs 8.5 and get a psa 10, thats when i realized grading is to subjective
So it's a scam?
@@Tbone50970 you are aware the moon moves in front of the sun also
Thanks for clarifying on the Gemamint thing. I was wondering the same RE: whether it's worth sending cards to regrade if each card has that "imprint" now.
Can you explain?
You're welcome!
Damn. Absolutely love that 06 OTG refractor!
Me too!!
Tag Grading is the way of the future. No human error.
Not only the no human error but the scoring system /1000 is super cool cause in their system not all 9s are the same and not all 10s are the same an their system lets you know which card is of the absolute highest quality !
@@jahmanglass5 exactly it's going to be the future for all card grading in 5 years. They will not re grade any cards whatsoever which is great because they believe on grading it 1x only no need to waste money grading multiple times.
Eliteco3 has a video of cracking slabs. Contrast Cards says a tile cracker works.
That silver press proof Brady looked OC, surprised it got a 10.
Thanks for the recommendations!
I have a PSA 8 I’m gonna send back in.. tiny little dimple but the rest of the card is flawless!! Hoping for a 9
Good luck Chris
PSA has a grade guarantee that if you buy a PSA 10 and you look over the card and think they made a mistake, you can send it to them and they will look it over. If they believe you are correct, they will either pay you the market value of the card at the current grade, or they will regrade the card and give you the difference in what the new grade is vs. what it was originally graded at.
This is an amazing business practice. Literally no downside to going with PSA when they have guarantees in place. BGS recently regraded a recase/reholder sub of mine and I lost thousands. Will never use them again.
@@jdsun1 I don't know if you heard, but they are starting to think twice about it. Apparently some guy got them to slab a fake Magic/Bird rookie card as a PSA 10 and now the owner of the card wants $500,000 from PSA because of it. PSA doesn't think they should have to pay for it.
@@jdsun1 BGS are better than PSA
Use heavier duty clippers. Snip top two corners then use a heavier duty flathead. I even snip down the sides and then it lifts right off and don’t even need the screwdriver
I definitely need to upgrade the clippers without a doubt 😂. Thanks for the tips!
great video, Austin! A++
Appreciate that Brad!! I hope you’ve been crushing 2023!
All the graders need consistency They are all over the place
I've done this, buying PSA 9s, cracking and resubing to PSA. Overall, no home runs coming back but lots of singles if you know what to look out for.
That’s good to hear you’ve had some luck with it too! I’m definitely not going to shy away from 8’s/9’s if they look super clean. I suppose this goes back to the ole “buy the card not the grade”
@@carlsoncards it's happening to me alot anymore. I've been shying away from cracking them out but thanks to this video, I'm now willing to do it now. For the right candidates. Thanks for sharing this with us
GOod video! I enjoy the channel. Have you sent any serial numbered cards that have photos in the the PSA database back for grading? I have some to send as well... But pretty sure they'll be checking serials.
Thanks! Yes I believe all of the examples shown here did fit that boat. And I had two change grades as shown which was interesting
Be sure to wear safety goggles too 😅 small and sharp flying glass snapping slabs
Yes good reminder! :)
Nice video!!! Yes the difference between 8,9,10 are very subjective on modern!
Thank you!!
I respect your honesty about PSA needing to be tougher on some of the grades. In the last year I've probably seen 1000 slabbed 10's that look like 8's listed on ebay/YT vids. It makes my stomach turn when I see people bidding crazy for a card that clearly doesn't resemble the grade. Sucks that you lost some money on the regrades, but at least you will feel better about reselling it to someone at its legitimate grade than ripping someone off with a grade the card shouldn't of got in the first place.
A saw a PSA 10 slab on PWCC last week that looked like a 7 or 8. It sold for over $300 when realistically it should be worth $5. I have about 30 of them ungraded in better condition. No point in grading them though as they'll all get 9's which are worthless.
This is an excellent video! Definitely a great strategy and seemed to work. You gain 3 times the value roughly from PSA 9 to PSA 10. So even if 25-30% return as 10s, the resell value on better card’s definitely make it worth it. New to the channel. Will definitely be following your future content. Well done my friend. Hope you’re having a great week
Thanks for tuning in! I appreciate it. I hope you have a great week as well!
The only thing I would hesitate for is thinking especially with the numbered cards, they can probably pretty easily check what number your card is vs your earlier submissions. I'm sure they know If they graded a card based on its number.
That's what I had always thought as well until I sent this order. Apparently, they do in fact re-grade, which imo is a good thing.
Great job! I'd be up for resubmitting if a card looked "poorly" graded only, not chasing "maybe" cards. Cool stuff! keep it going......
Totally agree! Thanks Joe and hope you’ve been well!
It’s “ an opinion”
They laugh all the way to the bank knowing that the “ opinion” excuse protects them from the fact it’s a huge scam…. keep resubmitting folks😉
Happens to me too. I just sent some cards from PSA to BGS. I cracked them open first. Great video. Jesus Bless!
I use a magnifying glass with light when I want a regrade. You can see a lot that way. Or jewelers loop some people say. I have a 1993 topps derek jeter that graded a 9 psa. I actually sent it into BGS because I think it has a chance at a BGS 10.
Thanks for tuning in Matthew! Good luck with the BGS grades!!
That was a crackin’ video A.
Thanks Al!!
You have great taste in cards
Thanks Jesse!
I had a random pop up come along. A 2003 Donruss Team Heroes Master Set Albert Pujols #'d to 20. Came back a PSA 7. 7th one graded with PSA and 2 each of higher grades.
Sounds like a damn nice card!!
@@carlsoncards a dream grail card I thought I'd never obtain after reading about it. I thought no one would ever break up the redemption Master sets.
Great educational video. Fun to watch as well. Shows you their 'expert' graders are 50/50 in getting grades right which i had known for ages and that's why i never graded my stuff. But question for you: i was going to grade a few cards that i want to sell. How strict do you think psa is with declared value? Seems like you sent in for $15 grading but one was obviously over $500 value. Would appreciate your fb as i was going to submit some cards and I'm afraid I'll overpay for grading only for my cards to fall below $500 later
Thanks you and glad you enjoyed! Great question. Personally I’ve seen they’ve really let up on upcharges. I think it would have to be a significantly obvious & heavily transacted card for them to upcharge at this point. They are less likely to upcharge stuff that doesn’t sell often. For instance a Lebron topps chrome rookie will be upcharged but a random rare parallel of high value might not.
@@carlsoncards Thanks so much for your expert advice
Great video, Austin. I haven’t tried cracking a PSA Slab yet, but I have heard they are the trickiest to crack. I did with an SGC one and it was easy. Went from a SGC 9.5 to a PSA 9 unfortunately. Just saw the Indy Midwest Monster is set for June 8-9, you going to set up again?
BGS is the hardest I’ve had to do! I’d love to make it but actually will be running my show that same weekend. Hope to see you again at a show soon though!
PSA is easy to crack ,I do it all the time because their grading is so inconsistent
Good job man!
Thank you!! I’m really glad it worked out. Like I mention in the video, it feels like both have the correct grade now.
Good video. I always tell people to buy the card not the grade, specifically for your PC. I have Brady rookies in a PSA7 or 8 that look better than 9s. Grading is so subjective that if you catch the right grader on the right day you are gonna get 10s, but the reverse can be true as well.
100% agree with all your sentiments above!
I just came across your channel as that was an interesting video. I’m subscribing to you.
I have to ask a question as an older collector who doesn’t buy much ultra modern. A lot of those cards you sold were not rookies. Do people buy alot of non-rookie ultra modern cards? I’m interested to see what the demand for those cards will be 10-15 years from now as my #1 rule since the 80’s was only collect rookie cards (unless it’s a GOAT like Jordan or those Brady cards you have). Maybe I’m just out of touch with ultra modern. Lol
Hey Chris! Glad you enjoyed and great to have you here!
I’ve had a lot of luck selling non-rookie cards and also personally enjoy collecting them. Seems like currently there is quite a bit of demand assuming they are low print/serial numbered. You have a great question here, and I am definitely not certain! The one thing I thought of when reading this is that I know demand is still high on 90’s (non-rookie) inserts for key players. Barry Sanders, Kobe Bryant, Shaq etc come to mind. Will that stay consistent? Your guess is as good as mine! 😀
Yes, the newer collectors seem to be aiming for the first rookie cards now. But, I'm an old collector like you, and if I can snag a card especially an auto that's a few years later.... I'm all over it! Mike Trout for example. I wanted his auto, and I waited till I got a good deal, for a newer card/auto.
I'm also learning that buying boxes of cards for $300 is painful most of the time. I mean, to get a good hit anymore, you gotta buy a case these days. I was spending a ton of money on these boxes and kept walking away losing my tail. Now? I just save up and spend $300-$400 on a card that's worth it. I mean, spend $300 for a box of cards and only get $50 in true value. It's like playing scratch tickets!
I heard PSA keeps record if numbered cards have been sent in before, but I guess that Tom Brady Camo proves otherwise? Anyways congrats. Nice vid
Agreed! Thank you
Just got a 2007 Finest Moments refractor PSA 10 that came back if interested? Pop 17
I’ll pass for now but thanks for asking. Just looking for specific sets at the moment
@@carlsoncards I didn’t write it in, but it’s Peyton Manning lol
I feel the problem with snapping something you didn't send in yourself you're not going to have the pre-grade history knowledge compared to obviously something you sent in personally. So in that case you need to be microscopically sure you have more that 50% chance at a bump up to be worth the cost. As once it's cracked you're able to see a whole lot more that possibly the slab was covering up... but ultimately as we know your playing into the hands of the beholder (grader) at PSA on much he's a fan of you Manning's and Brady's j/k. Another awesome vid, congrats on the '13 Finest Brady Camo!
I totally agree! You really have to look everything over that much better and also take a leap of faith. The one benefit I think is that there’s always a chance the other person did not prep the card well/if at all. I.e. in this case still had some smudges and fingerprints because the other person didn’t wipe it I’d assume.
Thanks!!
@@carlsoncards That's the other thing... I know SGC cleans and wipes down cards before capsulation but does lazy PSA not anymore? Thought they did the same?
@@sportscardfactory I'm not sure! I've actually never heard that the company does it themselves. Personally, I'd prefer if they didn't so they don't touch the cards any more than they need to ha.
@@carlsoncards Yeah SGC has actually confirmed they do it and shown them physically doing on many videos showing their process. Only heard PSA does it but never confirmed. Regardless, like said we should all be wiping ours down prior to submitting
From a cracking standpoint, you are being a little too careful on how close to the corner you are “snapping” you can be a little further down.
Also, you can undo the whole plastic with the flathead if you run it all the way so you are not risking bending the card or scratching it by only pulling the card with the plastic halfway open.
Thanks for the tips! Definitely not an expert on that side of things. I’ll pin this so others see it as well!
Fantastic video!
I’ve finished it, and I agree with your sentiments at the end.
I just completed this same video. My cards are on the way from PSA currently to complete the video.
I actually shouted you out in it being a reason I did another part of the submission, I’m trying my own pregrading and rating system based on your large 500 card order.
Something about your presentation resonated with me!
Must be the engineering and number crunching side
@@grindstone11 thanks for the kind words! Glad you enjoyed the video and agree with the takeaways I had. I’ll definitely have to check that out once you finish it! I’ll sub now.
You shouldn’t have to resend it. That’s why grading is a scam.
That's the problem with PSA. I've had about 9 out of 10 good orders with BGS where the grades given seemed accurate
How can you get a 10 if you can see visible issues? If you see slabs with issues that are graded 10 I would be avoiding using that grading company.
10’s are not perfect/flawless cards, they do allow minor issues as stated on their site. However not all “minor issues” are created equal of course 😅
I got a PSA 10 on a card which has a stain on the front and corner wear on the back. They upcharged me $300 on it and it only cost me $15. PSA are a disgrace.
@@carlsoncards well when I went to school 10 out of 10 was 100% perfect. I think Beckett does a pretty good job of getting the grade right but those clowns at PSA are handicapped because they don't require their employees to learn fractional numbers making it impossible to get the grade right even if they wanted to.
Please get some metal snips and a longer screwdriver
I agree 😂
submitting sports cards are tough
I fight everyday in this hobby for PSA and other graders to just offer sub-grades or grader notes to it’s customers smart enough to utilize the service. With 1000000 cards being graded a month, it’s going to be good in the future to be able to differentiate between all the 9 & 10’s soon to flood the market. All graders have to come up with some system to have an overall grade and those figures aren’t kept in their head. They have to specify these sub-grades to get a final overall grade. Not to mention it’s impossible to get a perfect 10 if the company doesn’t have to share subs. Everything’s just a gem mint 10. Just my advice for a better hobby future.
I agree on at least grader notes. Would be super handy and literally they would just have to mark a drop down option or something. I.e. “What detracted from Grade?” - “Corners/Edges/Surface, etc
@@carlsoncards I worry that Grader’s notes will not lead to pristine examples like sub-grades do but would be happy with either.
If y'all want full transparency in how an why your cards got the grades they got you need to use TAG ! Theyre gonna be the future of the grading industry in the future !! Just a way better service than psa and more transparent with why youre cards got the grades they got !!
@@jahmanglass5 I’d rather trust HGA and I like the end product better. Maybe one day Tag is relevant but it ain’t today.
Well not supporting a grading service that dose exactly what you are fighting for other companies to do is kinda dumb no offense but why not support a company that is doing it 100% right an the way you're actually looking to have it done lol 😆
Ha a Brady Homer.😂
You got that right 😂
Just an FYI, they make bigger cutters! LOL
Next challenge is to crack a 10 and see if it comes back a 10
Now that takes balls! Lol
PSA is a joke. How can a card's grade change that much. I've seen cracked 6s returned as 10s. PSA is not a grading company, it's a gambling company. - WW
Definitely some gambling involved. I get a borderline 8/9 but yeah a 6 to a 10 would definitely be extreme
PSA is too busy grading fake stuff. they just close their eyes and pick a number.
I've cracked loads of PSA 6's and had them regraded as 9's and 10's. They've damaged my cards in the past. They just ignored my emails. Cost me thousands
eBay authentication did its job, because the card is indeed authentic. It’s not about the quality of the card.
I see you are paying to the Pop report, so are you going to report to PSA that you got them to regrade your cards so they take the old grades off the report so other collectors don't get screwed by an incorrect Pop report?
Correct, this was already mentioned in the video.
@@carlsoncards I'm sorry, I must have missed it. Where in the video did you say you sent them the old cert numbers to have them taken off the Pop Report?
@@wlewis19760 No worries! when I was cracking them actually! I mentioned always save the labels because you can send them back with your next order to have them remove the card from the pop report.
I thought PSA kept logs of the numbered cards they grade? Like if they see the Brady Camo # 9/10 come through again, they just look it up and see they had previously graded it as an 8.
That was always my concern as well, and I had heard that from others. It appears that is not the case!
For numbered cards, you'd think PSA would use the 'number' as a unique identifier since there'd only be one with that number (e.g. 9/10). Congrats, thanks for sharing.
That's what I always though too. But then again it makes sense you have to "re-grade" every time because what if someone snaps it and damages the card? Thanks for tuning in!
Not entirely true. Panini has at least double printed some numbered cards in some sets as there have been a few cases where two cards have shown up with the exact same number.(eg. 9/10 & 9/10)
@@buffalobill9793 those were printing mistakes on the handful of stories I've seen. Cards that were due to be destroyed getting accidentally released and the one was all of them had that same number on them but the amount produced was still correct
You're still better off cross grading from csg/bgs/ cgs to psa or vice versa. No 9.5 grade from psa and 8.5 not being used on modern makes the going that route easier than straight regarding. But you do highlight the biggest problem in grading overall is people buying the grade not the card. How many times you see a psa 10 that looks like crap yet it'll still sell at psa 10 prices. That's an issue that unless the buyers correct, won't get fixed.
I've watched a lot of your videos, you grade a ton of cards....there's no way you missed dents like that on the back of the '08 Brady green refractor, and there's no way PSA originally graded it a 9 if it had that dent. They damaged it in encapsulation, or sometime after grading. I'd agree that 8 is a fair grade....now, but originally it didn't get graded a 9 with that dent. Sorry, but I'd say that's why it went down a grade.
I wish that was the case but unfortunately, I'm quite certain that I missed it myself. Back dents tend to be my kryptonite lol!
Card grading is the greatest scam pulled on card collectors. I have eyes just like a grader does.
seems like these should have been submitted at a higher fee than $15...if the cards you are showing are already worth $300 to $500, that is over the $199 limit...sure you can do it and if they upcharge you they upcharge you, but I think with higher dollar cards, submitting a the proper rate could get you "better" grades...my 2 cents
Shouldn’t you be able to send same card in multiple times and get same grade? That doesn’t seem like a professional service. Why don’t people stop all the bs grading and just go raw ?
They sare side cutters not pliers....lol
I definitely need an upgrade!
People continue to drink the PSA kool-aid..smh
BAHAHAHAHA all you need to do to crack these slabs is a table vice and a flat head screw driver!! I laugh every time I see these people on TH-cam doing this like come on lol
I wish I had a table vice!
I can't crack a slab in 30 seconds safely
I can
This is why you shouldn't care much for grading, its all subjective and a scam to make PSA rich. PSA = Please Submit Again
PSA SUX
Way over priced