BORG CUBE vs YUUZHAN VONG WORLD SHIP | Star Trek vs Star Wars: Who Would Win
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- Star Wars vs Star Trek... The Borg vs the Yuuzhan Vong... Borg Cube vs Worldship... Who Would Win? Find out today!
As a bit of background, the Yuuzhan Vong were extra-galactic alien invaders unique to Star Wars Legends. Massive worldships ferried the aliens between galaxies.
The Borg Cube is the main capital ship for the Borg. It is extremely sturdy, adaptable, and ferries dangerous Borg Drones who can be used to assimilate living beings.
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The Vong would make a great addition to the collective.
Their technology is unworthy of assimilation.
@@cmdrtianyilin8107 Send another drone. Seven Of Nine hit the wall hard and really lost her looks. 20 years ago I'd have fucked the shit out of her.
Their assimilation would have added greatly to our own perfection.
@@cmdrtianyilin8107 they have no technology
Technology? Eeeeew! Who needs technology when you can just grow a ship tree?
Well, at least we can all agree some dudes are gonna get killed to death
Justin Y.
Oh yeah they're gonna get murdered
I swear justin me and you literally have the exact same watching patterns
Justin Y is cancer
Justin Y. WHERE THE FUCK DO YOU COME FROM?
Murder almost always ends up killing the victim.
7:40 I like the fact that you reference the "They have no shields so lets transport a torpedo to their bridge," principle.
The easy path isn't taken too often in sci-fi, I love how they used this tactic in stargate atlantis.
Transporter bombing is banned by Starfleet, BTW. The Kitomer accords, I believe, prohibit the use of weaponized transportation and subspace weapons.
They are mirrors of each other. One cybernetic, the other biomechanical.
That is exactly right
They also have opposite objectives. Vong want to destroy everything that uses non organic technology, so basically everyone. The Borg want to assimilate everything of value to better themselves.
The Vong would hit the Rage button pretty quick upon seeing the Borg. The Borg would be the ultimate abomination to them. For their part, assuming these are post-Voyager Borg, based on their experiences with species 8472 a biomechanical race like the Vong would trigger the holy h$ll out of the Collective.
One is a hive mind other has individuality
I realy like the fact that you used the Borg Cube Fridge as refference pictures ^^
Wait- that’s a FRIDGE?! Many lols
And CBS can`t copyright a fridge, right?
Personal shield technology compared: Dune, Halo, Star Wars and Stargate
Rhydian Morris Yeah, stargate shields in general are really powerful, I believe the Ancient shields can't be pierced until their entire eneegy supply is depleted
Those shields in Dune could be weaponized if properly utilized. They attract worms and it's basically a nuclear bomb if hit by lasgun.
Idea: do an episode where you describe your “perfect fleet”, with access to ships from Star Wars, Halo, Mass Effect, and/or other sci-fi universes.
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Warden - one day it’ll happen
What if you add mobile suits(not gundams) from across the Gundam multiverse.
that would be awsome
Vorg vs Yuuzhan Bong
I think you jumbled up the spelling of the words.
Commander Knight no he got it right
Ayy LMAO
The Yuuzhan Bong come from the Tropical side of the World Ship.
Idk why this made me laugh
Borg cube = Minecraft World Ship
*A small horde of Steve has teleported onto your ship.*
The drones are called steves
They did it before it was cool!
James Talbert LMAO
Borg cube is what we got when EMERALD ORE fused with COAL BLOCK 😂😂😂
2 odd ships from odd species fighting?
Yes.
One might even say hell yes
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Borg invade the Halo galaxy
Yes yes yes please please do that
Borg vs Flood = everyone's fucked at the end of it
Borg = Flood that might actually not die to the ring weapons*
The borg would wipe the floor with the flood for a while, until they lose 1 battle and the collective takes a good dose of logic plague like mendicant bias did and implode
@@ColonelRosa The logic plague can only work against flawed logic (like the forerunner's worthiness of the mantle) though. It doesn't work against sound logic.
The Borg must be exceptional tennis players
"That name sounds swedish"... :D
They have yet to be defeated.
Chess
I love versus battles and I’m glad you are back to doing them again!
Hey Eck as a kid I didn't really appreciate some of these sci-fi stories fpr what they were worth until I found your channel, once I found your channel I started rereading the content for star wars, halo, etc.
Thanks for the in depth content and chill vibes
Same here Tristan. I really didn't give Star Wars factions a lot of weight when compared to other Sci Fi universes. It always seemed to me they had the pew pew but the technology always seemed lacking even given the size of a lot of the ships like SSD's etc. I've really learned a lot! And have a lot more respect for Star Wars now.
Replicators vs a Unified Star Wars universe (289th try now, *_I._** WILL NEEEEVER EEEVER GIVE UP!!!)*
coming up on infra-red Which ones though? I'm assuming you mean the ones seen in stargate, but do you mean the spider-like replicators the Asgard fought, or the Asurans who were created by the Ancients?
Stargate replicators are broken. Not worth a video.
Yuzzhan Vong vs Covenant and UNSC
yes i will continue to support you
so will I
Species 8472 vs Yuuzhan Vong . Do it !
"Because the Vong value foreign technology" 7:40
The hard thing with the Borg is that Star Trek has often rewritten entire sections of the Borg's abilities and powers to suit specific plot points. For example, when they were first introduced, while the Enterprise D's phasers did do immense damage to the cube, this damage didn't last long and the Cube was back at 100% in a matter of minutes, and thereafter, the Enterprise's phasers had no effect whatsoever. It was also revealed that the Borg Cube could sustain hits from Photon Torpedoes, carrying a charge that would mix matter and anti-matter with minimal if any damage. In this, with regard to the Borg Cube, it SHOULD be easily assumed that a Borg ship can sustain collision with rock being hurled at it...
And while Yuuzhan Vong weapons would have that rock super-heated, it wouldn't be the same as a matter/antimatter warhead, which in pure theory the Borg should be able to handle quite easily. In a sense, it would be like the navigational shields that other Star Trek ships carry to protect against space debris and other things that could be hazardous to the ship... and are often not counted as part of a ship's "official" shielding. Now, given its size, the weapons on a Yuuzhan Vong worldship might be big enough to be a threat to the Enterprise E... that might not be the case with regard to the Borg, which even by "First Contact" and the last seasons of "Voyager" were still portrayed as powerful. In this the Borg should be reasonably well protected.
The issue that raises questions is that by "First Contact" the Borg had to have dramatically changed how their ships functioned. In the first appearances, the Borg had redundancy upon redundancy, meaning that there was no portion of the ship in which you could do damage to its power grid or any other "vital system" as those features were through the entire ship. Meaning, if you wanted to destroy a Cube, you would have to be able to one shot it, which would be doubtful that Yuuzhan Vong weapons could do. Yet in "First Contact" when the Enterprise E arrives at the battle, it is noted that there are fluctuations in the Cube's power grid and there is extensive damage to the outer hull, with little to no recognition on the Cube healing itself. It's also noted that when Picard orders the Federation fleet to fire on the "following coordinates" it's noted that they weren't a "vital system," which in theory the Borg didn't have at all, because of redundancy on redundancy. Now, in a sense this is fine... had "First Contact's" writers given at least a line of reasoning for this... particularly when the crew of the Enterpirse E and Worf on the Defiant at the time were the most experienced with fighting the Borg in the Federation. They should have at least a guess as to why the Borg Cube in "First Contact" was so different from the Cube from "Q Who" and "the Best of Both Worlds 1 and 2."
As for the combat abilities of individual Borg... while they've never been portrayed as a sort of warrior race the way the Klingons have in Star Trek, they have been noted for being highly adaptable to energy weapons and resistant to them... as well as physical attacks on them. Though, in the television series, most of these instances have been with normal human characters. The first time where a physical attack truly works is in "First Contact" when Worf punches one so hard that its head "explodes" and Data snaps another's neck. Though, it should be noted that Worf, as a Klingon, is STRONGER than the average Human, and Data as an Android lifeform was even stronger. Human officers that tried to battle the Borg in that way were brushed aside like they were nothing...
Now, Yuuzhan Vong warriors are probably stronger and faster than the average human, and in armor that could resist lightsabers, it would be difficult for Borg nano-probes to effectively assimilate them... particularly at first contact, but warriors would not be the only caste on a worldship. There would also be shapers, political caste members, and potentially even shamed ones performing low level tasks. It would be these groups that would be the most vulnerable to the Borg, particularly the shamed ones who came from many of the other castes in Yuuzhan Vong society and only became "shamed" because their bodies rejected the genetic augmentation the Vong performed.
In this, if the worldship's weapons do damage to the Borg Cube in space in a manner in which they find impressive, they may well try to assimilate them, just as they did with the aliens of Fluidic Space... at first. And through assimilation, the more the Borg would learn and the less the Yuuzhan Vong would be able to do to counter them.
Great points, but remember that at Sector 001, unlike J25 and everywhere in BoBW, Picard could already hear the Borg comms, and was able to find exactly where they couldn't sustain major damage. I interpret that to be more of a what was happening there at the moment thing, rather than a "that was special" thing. That, or Moore was right and it was waste extraction.
You do realize that the Borg didn't assimilate Species 8472 right? Because they were at war with them and couldn't even hurt them. The only way that they won was when the Enterprise joined the fray and made a virus against Species 8472. In other words the Borg would have been wiped out and so would all of the other species in the galaxy had it not have been for Enterprise coming to help to make a bargain with the Borg.
@@lorastra6975 I think you got your series mixed up. Enterprise never encountered 8472. Voyager did. And even then 8472 wasn't some kind of mass invasion. The Borg were the ones who invaded fluidic space and provoked 8472. The amount of inconsistencies with 8472 make it difficult to guess what would happen if Voyager hadn't gotten involved, since Voyager did end up opening a dialogue with 8472 and pretty much called a cease fire, until STO. Lore Reloaded did quite a few videos covering Borg lore and the 8472 issues and I'd highly recommend his stuff
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Completely unrelated but, What’s your guys favorite fictional weapon?
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Edit2: in all seriousness I would have the tool gun from gmod
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I think the biggest reason that the borg aren't tailored against physical damage is because basically everyone used energy based weapons. If the borg were facing an enemy who used ballistic based weapons they would just adapt their ships and drones with armor that could withstand the damage.
Also when you're talking about the borg the bigger question is would the worldship be able to defeat the 2nd cube that showed up, now adapted to its enemy.
105th Attempt:
Yuuzhan Vong vs. Reapers
* Woohoo nice vid on the Vong again Eck keep it up!!
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I think that because the Borg are pretty smart bois they can take advantage of the fact that the Vong will be disgusted and enraged by Borg implants. I also think that after a while the Borg would realize what the Worldship was, beam warriors aboard, and assimilate critical components of the ship that would turn it against itself
This was a cool video Eckhart, enjoying the Vong videos keep them coming buddy! The Vong would probably have flashbacks to their home galaxy and be pissed to see Borgs.
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Who would win
Even as a Star Trek fan I will admit you are right about the Borg being unable to adapt to physical weapons. I mean, just look at Picard with that holographic machine gun...
gajbooks firing real bullets.
Picards use of physical weapons was for plot, so i dont think we will ever really know. Also, if some books are cannon, a ship rammed a cube and they adapted to that, physical ship did no damage, so i dont think its impossible for a cube to become immune to physical bullets but its down to who writes what.
The bullets were holographic. They were essentially shields shaped like bullets. Who's going to adapt to that? As well, if star trek wanted to use projectile weapons against the Borg, replicator patterns for every projectile in Earth's history is available on all Federation ships. If using projectiles were an option, I'm certain Federation captains would've used it by now.
holodecks used both forcefields and replicated matter. So but bullets might actually be a physical bullet that where replicated.
ascelot Maybe, but that's not really proven in any way. He wasn't killing armies of them like that, and the EMH wasn't some sort of Borg murdering superweapon, so it's likely they hadn't adapted to holographic forcefields (I would posit that all fast moving particles are illusions because of safety protocols, but this is also unfounded). Worf and Data seem to be able to physically fight drones due to their strength, so who knows what they can adapt to.
Counterpoint to Borg having a difficult time assimilating the entire shitp. 1) I don't think the complexity of the shit is much of a factor, the Borg have assimilated thousands of different species. However: 2) If the goal is to disable the ship then all they need to do is take out a few of the creatures that make up the vital components of the ship, hell just the creature that works like wiring or data cables would do the trick.
Always a good listen, keep it up.
logruszed ummm you said shit instead of ship. Just letting you know
dafish 115935 Given that we're talking about a Worldship, is there a difference?
>I don't think the complexity of the ship is much of a factor, the Borg have assimilated thousands of different species
* cough * species 8472 * cough *
I have some pretty complex shits, and I have never been able to assimilate them.
Would also like to say that the borg can our range the Vong by a incredible margin
The asteroid thrower thing is not going to put a dent in a Borg cube since one cube survived being near a planet exploding in Voyager, under continous bombardment of the planet fragments.
I would love to see an Eve-Online empire vs something. Because eve-online has insanely powerful ships and technology. So i wonder how an Eve empire would fair against say the warhammer empire, Borg, flood, reaper, or such.
a bit late comment but imho it would be interesting.
Borg at least would have 95%em / 10%kin / 10%exp / 30%therm resist... minmatar fleet would rip appart borg cube. But a look at assimilation would be interesting because capsuleer is kinda allready fused with the ship so it may resist assimilation better or maybe it would be even worse.
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It is important to remember that Star Trek ships have particle shields in addition to energy shields. They usually just defend against space debris but the Borg could adapt and put more power into the particle shields to defend against physical weaponry.
Yes, the Borg often did not use shields due to the fact that their field would adapt to most weapons used against it. They were I imagine not adverse to using the technology if it was necessitated and hot blazing lava nodules tearing through their hull would necessitate their use. The Collective has probably come across every variation of shield tech that there is and finding one to counter the Vong would just be a matter of going through their mental rolodex.
Star Trek is the shit man, I’m glad to see you give it some love!
Finally someone tackled this. I've been comparing the two races for years when talking to people about them. It's obvious the Vong were influenced by the Borg its like a Yin-yang 2 sides of the coin type thing.
I think the Borg would adapt extremely well to Vong weapons. The Vong among all of SW is particularly illsuited to fighting Star Trek ships.
Why? The deflector dish. It makes all kenetic weapons useless.
I'd guess that the Borg tractor beam could be used to block a fair amount of fire from the Vong. They are meant to hold physical objects. A wide angle one that just kind of sweeps the area facing the Worldship probably could get much of the rock being flung at them.
i believe the borg "shields" had some anti kinetic properties, but since kinetic weapons were not used much in the series much less at the same time borg were involved they didnt really put any thought into it. it had to have something or races would probably just start ramming small ships into the cubes at warp speeds to destroy the cubes. most races ended up desperate enough to do it.
The Flood (Halo) vs Necromorphs (Dead Space)
Two other channels I watch just did it and I am curious who you would think would win.
Plz do this echs
yes please
Borge cube vs droid control ship
Is this a joke? The Borg Cube is literally 3 times the size of that ship, completely ignoring the massive gap between the center and the outer ring. It could just crash into it and win.
Justin MacDougall on that.. the Borg. Its too easy to wipe out the Droid forces by destroying the ship and for ANY franchise a Borg Cube is huge and powerful
The droid control ship is gonna lose
Idk much about Star Trek but I would assume the CIS vastly outnumber thge borg. For every 1 borg cube there may be 10 droid control ships.
Alright, first of all. It would be a massacre.
Second. Oh wait, there isn't a second it'll just a droid massacre since the borg will use their tractor beams to pull the control ship apart. And the droid fighters are of no concern to the cube since it can catch a bunch of them in a single tractor beam as they're leaving the hangar.
*When you're a star wars fan and you give the win to star trek...*
I think thousands of borg drones transporting onto a world ship and planting nanoprobes into the ship, it would be assimilated pretty quickly
The Yuuzhan Vong vs the Dark Eldar.
The Covenant vs the Eldar.
Death Watch (canon and legends) vs the Banished.
The Eternal Empire vs the Infinite Empire (inclouding all the droids and weapons they made that we see in SWTOR).
Zann Consortium vs Jul 'Mdama's Covenant.
The UNSC vs the Rebel Alliance.
The Covenant vs the Infinite Empire (inclouding all the droids and weapons they made that we see in SWTOR).
Jul 'Mdama's Covenant vs the Banished.
Seraph vs T-65 X-Wing.
@ANONYMOUS I disagree with you on the Rebels vs the UNSC. I don't see many advantages the Rebels have besides naval technology. The UNSC has better trained soldiers, proper industry and not to mention AI and super soldiers like Spartans
@ANONYMOUS I don't think he would be enough, far from it actually. Also, the Rebels may have Luke but the UNSC has Master Cheif.
These videos make me feel like such a nerd, but heck, these “what if” scenarios are so fascinating.
I would love to see a group of tenno (from Warframe) fight either a group of Sith or the crew of a ship like a star destroyer, possibly even the Death Star
The Tenno got ressurection on their side...they act like mobile blender-nukes...Tenno hands fucking down win.
Now that we're doing VS again...
THE ARBITER vs THE META!
Just for LoLs. Death Star I vs Death Star I I
Chip Kelly death star 2 would win, it's more accurate and can charge alot faster than the first death star. Although it was incomplete and couldn't reach full power the death star 2 could easily destroy the first.
True. Had it been completed, it would have been larger and more heavily armed too.
So Victor DSII. On to the next round. DSII vs Unicron.
Borg vs Yuuzhan Vong: How to start a universe-ending war.
When I see the borg cube I think of the bad guy ships from a Hitchhikers guide to the galaxy and more
Borg assimilates vong
Borg going through downloaded files from vong: There is nothing but anger and hate in this one...
Borg: This may not have been worth it...
Yuuzhan Vong >>> all of Disney Star Wars.
I agree. The physical weapon debate has been on for a while, and we know that Starfeet often has issues with long term combat strategy, so simply producing standard guns while they know of them, doesn't seem to be something they would do. Then again, it may be that the Borg's out armor may be too tough for these weapons. We also know Borg ship's use deflectors, where as Star Wars ships typically don't so it possible the Deflectors would simply wave off most Vong slag weapons. This is all still ignoring that a Borg cube can regenerate large amounts of damage relatively quickly. But at the end of the day, if one world ship has only a thousand warriors, and we know a handful of Borg drones can overcome several hundred officers that know their tactics, then it would still go to the Borg. All they would have to do is beam over a few thousand (we know a single cube can hold a hundred thousand drones) onto the ship before there's is ether incapacitated or destroyed, then just assimilate them. The Von may be better warriors, but so are the Klingons, and they can easily assemalate them.
The Covenant vs The Yuuzhan Vong
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Skynet vs The Flood
119th Attempt
Scenario: Skynet beats the resistance, and after that it is alerted of the Flood coming to Earth, and it is given a basic rundown on what the Flood is and what it does, it gets 3 Years to militarize and prepare for the Floods arrival,
The Flood will arrive using High Charity's, including it's fleets, weapons, and so on, in Scenario 1a it gets 5 High Charity's, in Scenario 1b it gets 10 High Charity's, and in Scenario 1c it gets 20 High Charities,
The Flood may not use the Logic Plague on Skynet, nor may it just glass the planet,
SkyNet may not just send a bunch of nukes to the High Charity's,
Basically no hard core weapons of mass destruction that could basically end the match up in a few days if not hours,
If SkyNet can survive until Scenario 1c then I personally say that it would win, although if that is not enough each scenario could in fact be a wave that SkyNet has to destroy, which would make 35 High Charity's in total, and each wave would come a week after the wave before it was totally destroyed, giving SkyNet the chance to regroup and analyze whatever data it received from the battle, whether it be more efficient ways to kill Flood Forms or even gathering and using/reverse engineering Covenant Technology for its own use,
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Also the Vong worldship itself and the conglomeration of living creatures that comprise it would be tasked with resisting assimilation as well.
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Star Trek uses the concept of Deflector dishes that are designed to deflect physical particles in space away from the ship. Because particles of physical matter in space move at incredible speed and like wise the ships in the star trek universe move very fast and a need to not get wrecked by tiny space rocks. The technology the Borg ships use would negate the Physical weapons of Yuuzhan at least in ship based combat. How a blade works against a borg Im not sure, but it seemed the Klingons had some luck using physical weapons at least in hand to hand combat.
"you walk up to it and kick it in the face"
BEST STRATEGY EVER!!!!
I like this more than I thought I would, but...
*BATTLE OF ATOLLON!!* Gonna keep asking for it :)
The yuuzhan vong in invade the Halo gaxley 1round without the flood 2 round with the flood
Flood rape the Vong, without a doubt.
Spectronic The flood would probably just laugh at the vong. Like you know that saying, "one flood spore can destroy a species"? It could destroy a vong worldship within hours, looking at how fast high charity fell xD.
It's like making a mouse fight a Goliath Bird Eater Tarantula, we all know who will win here.
Take On Kek There was a civil war on High charity!
@@nobleman9393 yeah but the vong world ship is organic......its all you can eat buffet for the flood.
Cool! The Borg or The Vong vs The White Walkers would be another interesting one I think. Great video!
Well how hard would it be to assimilate a vong anyways? One vong could definitely kill several hundred borg.. so the borg would have to sacrifice at least a fair amount of their own to make sure their nano-machines, son, have gotten into a vong warrior. Though thatd be quite dependent on the circumstances so i digress
The Borg on at least one occasion considered a system-wide WMD type weapon to disperse their nanobots throughout an entire solar system while engaged in a war with Species 8472. Presumably they could develop other similar ranged nanobot delivery methods if an enemy proved too resistant to conventional methods.
All they have to do to infect someone is stick them once.
More powerful Borg, like Locutus can mop the floor with Vong Warriors tbh.
You're rather overestimating the skill of the Vong and the power of their weapons. More likely four or five Borg could grab and hold down a Vong while injecting nano probes. The Borg outnumber the Vong millions of times over. New Republic developed Alpha Red. I'm sure the Borg could also develop a biological weapon. The Vong are more of a novelty than a threat to a competent military force. The biggst thing they had going for them is that idiot Bothan who was in charge of the New Republic.
Another important x factor in this is that the Borg can adapt their weapons and sometimes quickly. Borg drones can be outfitted with stasis field generators so once they board a world ship.they can lock down a 3 dimensional "beach head" with stasis fields that block kinetic weapons. They can also use particle disruptors like the Romulan's and breen. These are energy weapons that break down atomic structure by destabilizing atomic bonds, hence the name particle disruptor or just disruptor.
Wait didn't they get defeated by another techno-organic species? Remember in Star Trek:Voyager
Derelict Except that specie controlled an entire universe and destroyed planets with corvettes.
True, huh I wonder how good they would be against the Forerunners.
Given how this is a Star Wars focused channel, the fact the Borg are making a strong showing says something. Also once the Borg figure out the Vong have multiple systems they wouldn't have to control all of it, just key systems like intraship communications, life support, etc.
A good way to put this Species 8472 used organic ships and took down alot of borg cubes and the Vong are basically 8472 on crack
species 8472 are superior to the vong
The Conquistador Specie 8472 corvettes blew up planets. Vong world ships barely destroyed a moon
The First Primaris Cato Sicarius because they don't care about destroy everything they care only about destroy any non organic tecnology and enslave their users
I really like your Galactic Vs. matches best of all the vids you post. Keep 'em coming thanks !
Cybermen from doctor who VS CIS from starwars please!
If the Borg learned from their Alliance with Janeway, they might be able to deal with the Vong in a similar way they did 8472: by engineering a virus propagated by nanites that infects their living ships.
5:43 WRONG in Startrek Online the collective discovered how to assimulate the UNDEAN (Species 8472)
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Teleporting a Nuke(Photon Torpedos, Proton Torpedos, etc) onto a ship is one of favorite tactics in Sci-fi.
Long live the vong
I think that the Borg do have shields. In the Star Trek Voyager episode Dark Frontier, a Borg ship that had taken damage from Voyager's phasers needed to regenerate it's "primary shield matrix", assigned drones to do so, before being destroyed by a photon torpedo that was beamed on board.
To me anyway, this sounds like more conventional shields than an electromagnetic field to neutralise the energy weapon's effectiveness.
Great video as always.
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Yes the Borg would normally try to save the technology to add it to their own but because it might be difficult for them to do that in the case of the vong ships they would probably just destroy the vong ships instead of wasting resources on the imperfections of the vong
The vong ship could just ram it seeing that it is 33 times bigger than a cube
The Cube would move out the way
Vong ship are gravity-manipulating, pretty effective when borg ships are slow.
Roland Deschain how fast are borg cubes compared to vong world ships
Star Trek ships in general are vastly faster when compared to Star Wars. This is because Star Wars ships are inspired off of real life naval warships, which are good for fun space battle but fail across the board when taking into real life astronautic designs into account. Now the Vong does have a bit of an excuse since they are organic and not designed according to a template. But their ships are just so excessively large and carry so much mass for no real reason; their own gravity would loss them down. Now Star Trek ships are not perfect either, as they are designed off of submarines, but that is still better because underwater allows ships to move in three dimensions while surface ships can only move in two dimensions. But in general Star Trek ships have vastly reduced mass and size which allows them to far more maneuverable and faster. Yeah the Borg Cube is pretty big, but we can assume that the Borg have technology that lets them control their own inertia or gravity. The vong by contrast have no technology at all.
In general while Star Wars ships have Star Trek beat in terms of fire power and armor, Star Trek ships have Star Wars ships beat in almost every other category. This is mainly because Star Trek ships are much more flexible and multipurpose in their design and utilize a wider array of technology. Star Wars ship design, at least the empire and rebellion, are too rigid and inflexible in their design which again are based off of WWII naval combat as opposed to actual space flight.
Red Rock Seven Actually Borg ships have been known to be pretty fast when properly motivated, not to mention they have a much easier time jumping to lightspeed than their Star Wars counterparts if a temporary tactical retreat is needed.
One thing about Star Trek technology that is often overlooked in these sorts of comparisons is the navigational deflector, which is understandable since it's not typically considered a tactical system. Because Star Trek ships move at high speeds through normal space, they are universally equipped with a deflector system dedicated solely to moving objects up to the size of small asteroids out of the path of the ship (depending on relative speed, small asteroids would almost certainly requiring slowing down to about 1/4 impulse). Since motion is relative, they would be just as effective at deflecting or redirecting a kinetic slug fired at the ship as they are at moving objects out of the path of the ship. In this particular match up, I think the Borg's navigational deflector would be able to almost effortlessly redirect flaming rock-based weapons, unless the speed of these projectiles reached an appreciable fraction of the speed of light.
Also, I believe defending against physical attacks is actually within the capability of a Borg Drone's personal shielding. The only time it's shown on screen in the VOY episode "Drone" when the '29th century drone' uses his to defend against the physical attacks of other Borg Drones, but it seems like such a basic capability (it's basically what all internal force fields on the show do) that I think a standard drone's shields could do it to, if they were configured to do so. They just never have it configured against physical attacks because most of the time they are fighting against energy weapons, and it may also interfere with their assimilation tactics. When we do see physical attacks used against them, it is generally only in short bursts. Against an enemy that relied on physical weapons, I think the Borg could adapt, it would just take a bit longer since they would go in expecting directed energy/particle weapons.
The vong vonduun crab armor would be invulnerable to assimilation. Most vong warriors wore this armor. Also the vong world ship holds millions of vong far more than a Borg cube. And how would the cube defend against thousands of fighters that it would see as asteroids not ships.
why do you say that the armor would be invulnerable they were vulnerable to a spore after all remember alfer red
Daman2287 that's because the armor breathes it would take in the stores that way. But it's skin was invulnerable nothing could breach it including it's natural enemy the vong amphistaff, which had a molecular blade for a tail, or lightsabers. Read up on the vong tech. Also the dovin basals that create micro singularities for thier shields and propulsion can also be used offensively how do Borg ships combat portions disappearing completely. And these micro singularities also strip away shields as they suck in the energy.
Star Wars doesn't have true disruptor weaponry, either. I assure you, no armour is impervious to disruptor fire.
Kasey Rose read up on the vong tech. Their armor can stop a molecular blade it can stop the molecules from being disrupted as the Ray or beam never actually hits the armor.
I'm sure I'm not the first one to ever notice this, but the Yusang Vong look like a combination between the Illithids and Gith from DnD. They're even somewhat similar, though definitely different overall, to a blend between the two races which is kinda cool. Makes me think of how having the star wars universe in the DnD univarse as this super advanced, cut off, galaxy would be really cool.
The Vong easily win, the Borg have a tough time countering organic technology.
I'm assuming you're using Species 8472 as a reference for that, but that's a very special case.
Kasey Rose what people do not understand is that Species 8472 are not from this Universe. They come from Fluid Space. That means their base composition is totally different from our own. That is why the Borg has such problems adapting to their technology and biology. The Vong are part of this universe so they can easily be assimilated.
Well that, and they were resistant to all disease including nanoprobes. The Borg once called them the pinnacle of biological evolution.
I have never even heard of the Yuuzhan Vong, but I do know the Borg a lot better than most people. I still prefer watching other Sci Fi shows (than Star Wars) such as Star Trek (all Star Trek shows, except Star Trek: Discovery), Stargate: SG-1, Stargate: Atlantis, Babylon 5, Doctor Who, Andromeda, classic Battlestar Galactica (not a huge fan of the modern 2004 Battlestar Galactica reboot series), and of course The Expanse.
Borg are way better villains than the vong
Piccard> thrawn
cyrus otell it’s the opposite. The Borg are very cliche and generic evil robots. The Yuuzhan Vong are very unique and different and unorthodox. Also Thrawn is a billion times smarter than Picard, who isn’t even as smart as the Vulcans.
One Piece the vong literaly have no real purpose but to.conquer talk about cliche the vong are way better villains because they attack the federation at a moral and ethical level, and Picard is way more multi cultured
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James Kosusnik dude the vong sound like a 40k race that's how generic they are
yeah, the Yuuzhan Vong sound kinda like the Tyranids (biological, extra-galactic threat), w/ a bit of Chaos or Dark Eldar thrown in
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What if the Yuuzhan Vong invaded the Star Trek galaxy immediately following nemesis? Which Quadrant would they invade first? I imagine their ability to travel through hyperspace would be a tremendous advantage over all but transwarp-capable species like the Voth.
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The Borg cube has a deflector system to stop physical projectiles, it's how they prevent space debris, so it shouldn't have a problem with the Vong weapons.
If you read the Star Trek novels, the Borg shields do adapt to projectile weapons. Namely, William Shatner's book " The Return " the Borg adapt to an ancient Kligon weapon that used a chemical propellant and a projectile.
The Cube doesn't need to survive. Beam over 100,000 drones (and a Queen) and begin assimilation of all living beings they encounter and the Collective will seize the World Ship even if the Cube is destroyed. Once the Borg start assimilating the crew they'll gain knowledge of the ship itself as well as how to adapt in order to assimilate the vessel itself.
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I do agree but I'd say another factor to this is as long as the rate of assimilation of the ship reaches a certain point and the vong ship doesn't self destruct, then even if the cube is destroyed the world ship will eventually turn into an enormous borg ship of some kind. Mostly because the Borg will learn the purpose and tactics of the vong and adapt themfor use, the Borg intelligence isn't connected to just the ship after all your dealing with all the Borg that exist knowing about the vong very quickly, unless they are cut off somehow.
As I recall, Vong ships had countermeasures inside them like biogenic gasses and viruses that could attack organic lifeforms. It might be possible that Borg invaders could be subjected to these agents. Even if their cybernetic systems remain undamaged their biological systems would be infected. Also, if this virus were to be transported back to the borg cube then the Vong might introduce an opportunity to annihilate the Borg entirely with a plague as I recall they did in one of the SW Legends books.
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