I saved so much time and money thanks to your video. I had my front tire in the street with the back tire on the curb for extra leverage, and then had a friend hold the handle bars so I could keep the stand up. Took about 30 minutes and $35 in tools and supplies (vs about $240 at my local dealer!). Most of the time was spent draining the oil and VERY slowly pouring in new oil. Thanks so much!
Happy to help! I have videos on brake fluid flushing and other good stuff you can check out when you need em. Be sure to subscribe and have a look around the channel :)
Thanks for this video man. I'm over due on a oil change for my Primavera Sport and didn't feel like taking it to the dealer where I definitely feel they over charge for an oil change.
Using a torque wrench on the OEM Piaggio oil filter isn't about finding a torque wrench, it's about finding the very specific cap for the oil filter. It's like 49mm, 14 flutes. I don't think anybody makes one that size.
You can also use the Polini or SIP filter with a 17mm hex head if you really want to torque it. Handtight and 1/4 turn is sufficient. The suction of the oil system will cause the entire filter to pull inwards anyways. There is a large o-ring to seal it. It would be very difficult for it to leak. The torque spec is like 5 foot-pounds which is nothing. Experienced mechanics don't use a torque wrench for that small of a torque. You should be able to do it by feel.
@@user-ld6wo4rv8h agreed but if I'm making a TH-cam video it's for the average person who wants to do their own change, the mechanics don't need me, so I always want to provide a torque spec :) I didn't know about those two other filters also having a night though, that's cool, thank you for the tip. Learned something new today!
Thanks. Best one I've seen so far. I've just bought a new Piaggio Medley 125 s. The manual is not clear if the oil level should be checked with dipstick fully wound in or fully wound out. Which is it? Also it gives the oil just as 0W-30 fully synthetic, but doesn't say if it has to be motorbike specific. I cannot find any 0W-30 fully synthetic motorbike specific. Is it OK to use car oil? Thanks.
Thank you. I'm not sure as that bike isn't sold here, and Vespa isn't even available in 125cc engine here so I don't want to give you the wrong advice. If you bought the bike new (or even if you didn't) just call up the dealer and ask them to tell you to be sure. They can look it up.
@@YouMotorcycle The Dealer isn't sure either. He thinks it means "completely unscrewing" means that"s how to take the dipstick out. but surely that"s obvious. What do you make of it?
As often as your owner's manual says. You can download it online if you don't have it in your bike. Typically it's minimum every year or every X miles, whichever comes first.
We often have Vespas in our workshop. I don't know why but even with low socket ratchets I can't remove the drain plug. They're always super tight. I often end up having to remove the exhaust to get a big enough lever in there. Do you experience this aswell?
For your particular year, it will be in your owner's manual, and on a sticker on the side of the motor by where you fill the oil. Worst case you can call the dealer with your VIN# and they can look it up and tell you.
I have a primavera 125cc made last year and bought brand new. Recently had the mandatory service when the bike reached 600 miles to keep the warranty valid ( 3 years) , which included a valve clearance Not long after i went to check my oil , started to unscrew the cap and heard a crunch. A small bit of the dipstick has somehow snapped off inro the oil. Theyve quoted me over 250 to get it sorted. Will this come out on its own if i drain the oil?
You could try it, but why risk it? $250 on a one year old Primavera to play it safe sounds like a good idea, and if the price it too much, time to open it up the motor yourself and take it out
@YouMotorcycle well if I do an oil change and it doesn't come out then yes I'd pay the 250 but I'm not in a position to spend that right now, the whole reason I bought a brand new vechile instead of relying on my 20 year old vespa is so these types of things wouldn't happen
How'd it all play out in the end? If money is tight, definitely buy used next time. Bikes have been ultra reliable for over a decade now. I'm getting close to 20 years riding, have owned almost 50 motorcycles and scooters, currently own 6, only ever bought 2 new. Usually look for bikes with 5k miles or less on them, pretty much as good as new, 25%-50% off the new vehicle price.
Great Video, you never mention if your Vespa is a 150cc or 50cc, is it the same KN-183 filter for all Vespa models? I'm on the N&N website and I can't find my Primavera 50cc listed.
Check your owner's manual to be sure, you can download it online from piaggio/ vespa for free if your bike didn't come with one. There may also be a sticker near the filler that states capacity.
Most manufacturers only want you using their own part just like most women only want you dating them. Doesn't mean there aren't better options for you out there :)
I have a skin condition on my right hand, but not my left, so, sometimes I wear one glove, sometimes both if I'm shooting a video because otherwise I look like bike-garage-Michael-Jackson haha
De hecho sí es tóxico el aceite en la piel. Al igual que una crema hidratante, la piel absorve el aceite de motor. En las advertencias de uso de las garrafas de aceite siempre indica que no debe hacer contacto con la piel.
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I saved so much time and money thanks to your video. I had my front tire in the street with the back tire on the curb for extra leverage, and then had a friend hold the handle bars so I could keep the stand up. Took about 30 minutes and $35 in tools and supplies (vs about $240 at my local dealer!). Most of the time was spent draining the oil and VERY slowly pouring in new oil. Thanks so much!
Happy to help! I have videos on brake fluid flushing and other good stuff you can check out when you need em. Be sure to subscribe and have a look around the channel :)
Kudos!! This will save me some money
Happy to help! Please give the video a like if you haven't already :)
Thanks for this video man. I'm over due on a oil change for my Primavera Sport and didn't feel like taking it to the dealer where I definitely feel they over charge for an oil change.
Happy to help. With some simple tools you can totally do this yourself. Check out the links in the description if you're missing anything.
Super helpful n practical video (and what a doll making it !)
Gracias from Mexico
Glad it was helpful!
Great of you to go through it for those that do not know, especially if it helps keep someone from getting taken advantage of.
Thanks brother! Yeah, some dealers are fair, some not so much, but even the fair ones aren't cheap compared to doing this yourself :)
No doubt... what is shop rate where you are ?
Usually around $95-110 Canadian/hour
@@TheCanadianBubba how bout over there?
Pretty sure it is up over $100 an hour. Tires and alignments are the only things I pay to have somebody else do.
Excellent! Thanks so much.
Happy to help!
Good video thanks, looking forward to more 👍.
Thank you. Have an air filter video coming soon!
Thanks for sharing I think I will change the oil first time Hmmm although I don't have a lift I will figure it out
You can have a friend sit on the bike, ok keep it on the center stand and work around the stand
Great vid thanks!
Thanks. Glad you liked it! Hope it helped.
Great video. Thanks :)
Glad you liked it!
What is the frequency to change the oil on Vespa 50 ?
Thanks
Happy to help!
Is a 150 or 125 inch engine?
Hi will this work for the picnic model
As long as the picnic model has the same motor
Thank you
You're welcome!
Спасибо 👍
You're welcome!
Using a torque wrench on the OEM Piaggio oil filter isn't about finding a torque wrench, it's about finding the very specific cap for the oil filter. It's like 49mm, 14 flutes. I don't think anybody makes one that size.
Interesting, thanks for sharing that. One more reason to just use the KN-183 oil filter instead amzn.to/31cH9rC
You can also use the Polini or SIP filter with a 17mm hex head if you really want to torque it. Handtight and 1/4 turn is sufficient. The suction of the oil system will cause the entire filter to pull inwards anyways. There is a large o-ring to seal it. It would be very difficult for it to leak. The torque spec is like 5 foot-pounds which is nothing. Experienced mechanics don't use a torque wrench for that small of a torque. You should be able to do it by feel.
@@user-ld6wo4rv8h agreed but if I'm making a TH-cam video it's for the average person who wants to do their own change, the mechanics don't need me, so I always want to provide a torque spec :) I didn't know about those two other filters also having a night though, that's cool, thank you for the tip. Learned something new today!
Thanks. Best one I've seen so far. I've just bought a new Piaggio Medley 125 s. The manual is not clear if the oil level should be checked with dipstick fully wound in or fully wound out. Which is it? Also it gives the oil just as 0W-30 fully synthetic, but doesn't say if it has to be motorbike specific. I cannot find any 0W-30 fully synthetic motorbike specific. Is it OK to use car oil? Thanks.
Thank you. I'm not sure as that bike isn't sold here, and Vespa isn't even available in 125cc engine here so I don't want to give you the wrong advice. If you bought the bike new (or even if you didn't) just call up the dealer and ask them to tell you to be sure. They can look it up.
@@YouMotorcycle The Dealer isn't sure either. He thinks it means "completely unscrewing" means that"s how to take the dipstick out. but surely that"s obvious. What do you make of it?
Not sure. I would definitely not use car oil though!
Do you have a copy of the service manual?
How often should you change the oil?
As often as your owner's manual says. You can download it online if you don't have it in your bike. Typically it's minimum every year or every X miles, whichever comes first.
We often have Vespas in our workshop. I don't know why but even with low socket ratchets I can't remove the drain plug. They're always super tight. I often end up having to remove the exhaust to get a big enough lever in there. Do you experience this aswell?
Grab a shallowerer bit or a 24mm wrench :)
How much oil is needed for 50cc 2016 4T Primavera?
For your particular year, it will be in your owner's manual, and on a sticker on the side of the motor by where you fill the oil. Worst case you can call the dealer with your VIN# and they can look it up and tell you.
I have a primavera 125cc made last year and bought brand new. Recently had the mandatory service when the bike reached 600 miles to keep the warranty valid ( 3 years) , which included a valve clearance
Not long after i went to check my oil , started to unscrew the cap and heard a crunch. A small bit of the dipstick has somehow snapped off inro the oil. Theyve quoted me over 250 to get it sorted. Will this come out on its own if i drain the oil?
Apparently a brand new dipstick snapping inside a brand new bike isn't covered by the warranty so want to avoid the massive bill if I can
You could try it, but why risk it? $250 on a one year old Primavera to play it safe sounds like a good idea, and if the price it too much, time to open it up the motor yourself and take it out
@YouMotorcycle well if I do an oil change and it doesn't come out then yes I'd pay the 250 but I'm not in a position to spend that right now, the whole reason I bought a brand new vechile instead of relying on my 20 year old vespa is so these types of things wouldn't happen
How'd it all play out in the end? If money is tight, definitely buy used next time. Bikes have been ultra reliable for over a decade now. I'm getting close to 20 years riding, have owned almost 50 motorcycles and scooters, currently own 6, only ever bought 2 new. Usually look for bikes with 5k miles or less on them, pretty much as good as new, 25%-50% off the new vehicle price.
Great Video, you never mention if your Vespa is a 150cc or 50cc, is it the same KN-183 filter for all Vespa models? I'm on the N&N website and I can't find my Primavera 50cc listed.
It’s because the 50cc’s typically don’t have an oil filter-just the strainer that comes out of the oil drain.
Correct. The 50s just have the little strainer you pull out, clean, and put back in when it's done draining. Thanks NW.
Hi, thxs for the video! Would you know if the oil filter on a 2020 Primavera 50cc is in the same location, I can't seem to locate it! Thank you :)
Should have a fill screen behind the oil drain plug. Were you able to find it?
How many Nm are needed to tighten the drain plug? 30?
Your answer is in the video :) @5:42
There is a range given in the manual, so as long as you're somewhere in the middle you're good
@@YouMotorcycle oh I put 28nm. I hope I did not damage anything. Seems leakproof
@@riccardom.1392 Woah... Fingers crossed you didn't damage the engine casing 😬
@@YouMotorcycle how can I proof it? Normally you see a damaged engine casing by leaking oil, don't you?
Opps, already saw this one. Damn, ur still handsome as heck
lmao thank you for your support Ralph. Ride safe!
Is it the same oil capacity for the sprint 50cc?
Check your owner's manual to be sure, you can download it online from piaggio/ vespa for free if your bike didn't come with one. There may also be a sticker near the filler that states capacity.
The drain plug is 24mm？
Yes, link in the description
Is that filter the same for the Primavera 50cc?
I believe they are different
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Pretty sure it's 1.34 lts, not 1.43. Or maybe it's a difference between the european and american version?
Check your owner's manual to be sure. May also say right on the side of the bike.
Oot!
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K&N none approved oil filter.
Most manufacturers only want you using their own part just like most women only want you dating them. Doesn't mean there aren't better options for you out there :)
Why is everybody scared to get a little oil on their hands? All you got to do is wipe it off. It's not toxic
I have a skin condition on my right hand, but not my left, so, sometimes I wear one glove, sometimes both if I'm shooting a video because otherwise I look like bike-garage-Michael-Jackson haha
De hecho sí es tóxico el aceite en la piel. Al igual que una crema hidratante, la piel absorve el aceite de motor. En las advertencias de uso de las garrafas de aceite siempre indica que no debe hacer contacto con la piel.
Poor design 😂
It's... okay lol
You know why my ignition light does not turn off?
No I don't, sorry.