EVERY SINGLE PERSON should do a thankless, low paying job at least once in their lives. If they did, there would be less rude customers and less stuck up managers/superiors, which would make every workplace a lot more bearable.
MrBeatboxmasta would be nice if all people would learn some humility from such experience and develop sympathy towards those who have to do those jobs. But sadly lots of people are sociopathic aholes who after going through some hardship do not become understanding and empathetic. They aren't thinking "this is shit, nobody should be treated like this, everybody deserves to be treated good, let's change it, let's make it better". No, Instead they expect others to go through what they had to and suffer as much as they did or worse. It's basically the "My parents beat me, so now it's my turn to beat my children" mentallity Lots of people are just shit and that's why nothing will ever change.
May the science be with you....you're correct. I do however think we would have a more empathetic society than what we currently have. Some people are just mean to their core but some would be willing to learn from such experiences.
I completely agree. I quit a high paying, Masters degree job that I hated and decided to work at a nail shop where I thought would be fun. Turns out this particular shop wasn’t; I was underpaid and overworked. I was the only girl there (besides the owner) and did most of the labor while her sons just sat down on their iphones and did nothing. It crushed my spirit and was the most thankless job I have ever had. My boss didn’t value me and the customers sized me up everyday. When I told her I got a new job and put my two week notice in, she didn’t congratulate me. Instead she just said she didn’t need me and that that particular week would be my last week. However I learned a lot about myself in the year I worked that job. I learned how to work alongside rude people. I am a lot more humble and appreciative and understanding for people who are dealing with these kinds of jobs. Even though I was treated like crap, it was an eye opening experience and I will forever be grateful for it.
I have a Masters degree and prior to finding a job in my field, I had to work at some minimum wage jobs. You are correct in your observations that people can be condescending. I like that you are not afraid to try new experiences.
People are usually condescending because they can be. They did whatever it took to get where they are and that path is extremely hard. Compared to someone who just took an easy minimum wage job, no respect given
So true! Worked at a gas station right after my masters - actually at a pretty competitive school in a competitive program. Loved my coworkers who were from ALL works of life. Sooo many customers treated me like an idiot!
I also love your perspective - I know that's not your end goal but how did you get the position and what made you decide to work in this field? What other jobs are you interested in?
The "talking down" incident seems like it's just a dumbass trying to brush off some authority to people below them so they can feel more empowered. All because they have a $3/hr extra in their hourly. I see this all the time. Why can't we all just be nice to one another, or learn how to better communicate.
Teo G Poker Vlog as someone who is currently hired under amazon, its completely what it is. Managment is just a powertrip, we are understaffed and unappriciated. On top of that, doing the right thing and being slow and not throwing packages basically gets you fired
At the video time of 7:23 minutes: This is where you err, Mr Bush. You are a highly skilled and intelligent man feigning lower class status. Obviously, you do not need certain things repeated to you. You get it quickly. Then, why blabble on the You Tube about this? Maybe you didn't realize this and was inadvertently and indirectly building yourself up at the expense of the ones who are not as astute as you. This is why we have "class situations and struggles:" People have different needs and you should always be aware of this. If you want to blend -- show this on You Tube.
💡The ego is a beast. People talk down to other people because of their own self inflated ego. People perceive being talked down to because of their own self inflated ego. I have decided that someone talking down to me has nothing to do with me. 🤔
Really thought provoking comment...One other thing I thought of...maybe some people feel so low in their self that they feel talked down to even when it is not the case
ASRM Earthling it's funny though, because his insight might have actually save the company money by having a special insight that people pushing papers in an off sight office don't have like how the training are excessively long and costly. With that said he could end up bonding with the workers and opening up all their minds to do better things and demand more. LOL
This is very interesting. I got an Engineering degree and straight out of college I got a well paying job, however I’ve been interested in working at Target just for fun during the weekends. Haha I don’t need the money but I’m just curious just like you.
BeatTheBush, What's sad for most people is that they are stuck working at those places. Society, outside influences, whatever it may be. "whatever is meant to be will be, but I control my destiny." Great video. I hope the best.
this is true freedom. when you invest wisely you can have choices, take breaks and live well. start investing 28 dollars a day will be 10,000 in a year.
What some tend to forget is 6 figure salaries are very high stress and very hard to maintain high stress for long periods of time . sometimes not worth it.
Coping there my friend. I'm sure the stress and the amount you get paid do not correlate in most jobs. The working world is organised and paid in some sort of hierarchy of people just like high school. Always thought it was more complex but it really isn't when it comes down to it.
haha I love it. This is something that a lot of people miss out on. In order to learn you need put your self in these types of internship situations. I remember when I first started learning how to make money online I worked for free for an SEO company for about 4 months. I Did not earn anything but I LEARNED a ton. This is very cool. Great vid, wish you success in your future.
Thanks! I'm not sure what I will need these skills for but it seems to me, what ever I learn, I somehow manage to cobble it together later in life to make it work together.
I did Uber as a driver for a few months, and got to see things from a drivers perspective. One unexpected consequence was that it restored my faith in humanity. I had hundreds of rides with people that were great, and could count the “bad” ones on one hand. I also got to experience weird glitches and problems in the service, and think of ways that could improve (or disrupt) ride sharing services. Very educational, overall!
I read a bunch of books that highlighted these people working 2 jobs and have always wondered if I could "hang" if even for a short period. So on top of my 60 hour a week start up, took up a part time job at my local golf course. There were no jobs available immediately so I took to more creative means of acquiring a job. I said are there any volunteer positions available. As a perk, for 10 hours volunteered a week, you could get free off-peak golf rounds and a cart. Did this for a month and then I was asked my the head pro if I'd be interested in interviewing for a part-time job. I was asked about my previously education and I straight up said that I wanted to learn the process... The ins and out of golf and how to run a golf course. Did this part time job for about 9ish months on top of my normal gig and ultimately had to tell the golf pro I had to leave because it was starting to conflict with my actual job. Ultimately, I had to tell the golf pro that I had hired more employees and I needed to spend more time training them and helping them grow. You'll learn a whole lot from the people you meet, especially if you work at a place that attracts people of all ages. In school, out of school, working a 2nd job, retired, etc...
I guess it really has to do with your team both at your primary job and the leadership of your part-time job. I had a bunch of high school/college kids that were just all over the place in terms of energy and that actually was a plus because I fed off that energy even when I was most tired from working outside at my part-time job. The part-time job had several people(at least 3 that I can remember) that were the strong, silent-type. Had never had so many in once space before, let alone worked with them and it was truly a joy. They led by example and never complained. They were always on time and were willing to share their knowledge to those willing to make the effort to learn. I don't regret one minute of it!
I worked for McDonalds for a few weeks, even though I was qualified for a higher paying job in a technical field. I was tasked to prepare the food but also clean up tables, empty trash bins, clean the floor outside and inside, and even clean some parts of the bathroom. It forever gave me appreciation and respect for people who work in low-paying jobs, who clean up streets, offices, restaurants, bars, public bathrooms, work in wastewater services, landfills, etc. Without them, what would we be? These jobs might be looked down upon, but they are as essential as doctors, teachers, engineers, police officers, etc. It's nothing and I don't deserve praises for it, but I make a point of cleaning up after myself at restaurants, public bathrooms, parks, streets... basically anywhere public. Not everybody does that, unfortunately.
Oh man ! You’ve got the gloves on, LOL. Dude , you’re attitude is freaking unreal. You really have a open mind , wish I could work with you a few days.
Yes, me too. I’m a You Tuber about to quit work. I’m coming to you for those little tips about saving for when I make that transition. Have you heard about a Steemit my my friend, I feel you’ll do well in that place.
It’s a content site linked to a crypto and I’m doing very good. Honestly, my content and fan base is a mouse fart compared to you. You should check it out.
I have had various jobs in my lifetime. Some I enjoyed and some I didn’t enjoy it at all. I always looked at it like this, if it was a job I enjoyed that was great if it was a job I did not enjoy I thought of it as getting paid to learn. I always found there was something to learn in every job and in every situation. Because of that I know how to do many things. Perhaps the largest bonus is learning about human nature. Yes there is a hierarchy in the workplace. The dynamics of the workplace and of those in authority over you are very interesting. Sometimes people like to be a big fish in a little pond. I enjoyed this video very much. Thank you BTB.
To nice to see someone that is college education and make a lot of money to see the other side of business hopefully you take away some good lessons from this and the people that bowl people that are below you I will appreciate it
michael wallace - Several years ago, a White upper middle class woman did an experiment. Took leave from her high-paying job, denied herself access to her bank account, credit cards, etc. She took a waitressing job and b4 the month was out, found herself short of cash and feeling threatened by her landlord. She ended the experiment b4 the time she'd initially slotred for it. She wrote about it and became ever sympathetic to the working poor. I hope she's still doing well.
I don't know if that's the same experiment I've read, but I remember reading about a woman doing something similar, but she worked at McDonalds (I think). It was a humbling experience for her as well. Also, just to mention something. Just because someone has a higher paying job, does not mean they aren't poor. There are some people who make terrible financial decisions and don't mind putting themselves or their family in bad situations. Trust, I've been there and experienced it! Check out Dave Ramsey's show as well and you'll see similar comments (and videos).
I was laughing when you got talked down to, not at you, more like with you. Its the way others get treated on a daily basis. People get used to talking to others that way due to rank and negative perspective of others. It's human nature in a way. What an awesome experience you are having. I have a masters in social work and I did Lyft for 6 months part time and it really taught me a lot about customer service.
True Miguel. I worked at call centers (WORST) and organizations that try to push metrics on you and do not give a shit about you or your dignity. IT is not human nature to be mean. It is more like they know there are +50 applications on file for people BEGGING TO WORK who can also do the job. It is more like well if Miguel Chavez can't do it, Mary can attitude. Life is certainly not fair. Even Lyft is a step above a call center or fastfood in my opinion. There is always a worse job and certainly much better ones to be grateful you have.
It is really an eye opener doing these kind of things, you get to meet the kind of people you don't normally would. The human interaction and communication, it will certainly helps on people taking on a leadership or any kind of human relation role in the future. On top of that learning how certain business operates is quite a learning experience, not many people have privilege to do so, enjoy the experience and take it to heart of what you learned.
I never really thought about that, but yeah basically the second I started my engineering job, nobody talks down to me. Not even upper management or executives. Whereas when I was working part time jobs in college it was pretty common.
Well an employee at Walmart makes 20k and a manager makes over 100k. A friend of mine disagreed with his manager on something and then he got yelled at with the manager saying, "You know how much money I make?"
More and more it has become the norm that employees are only given any information on a need-to-know basis; unfortunately, the result is having no awareness as to how one's role impacts the big picture... love seeing you in the blue-collar labor outfit!
I need more in order to do my job more efficiently. At least I wonder if they ever put Amazon engineers who design the system to work at the warehouse for a week. They really should.
This is so true. It's something I think of all the time, because I work at these kinds of jobs. I remember Richard Feynman would describe this in many of his stories ... that higher ups need to talk to and learn from the people actually doing the work.
+hyena hiena good point. Have you noticed how the bosses on the show "undercover boss" tend not be effective workers when they try to work as employees. They often can't even get the job done right.
Yes, they do this on purpose. If you teach your workers too much, they can progress to better jobs because of their knowledge and experience. This is how big companies operate.
Boy, I know what you mean! I have an MBA and wasn't able to get a good job right away and had to work in a warehouse. Mind blowing how people think in that setting. Hoarding information, so only they know how to do it and thinking that $13 an hour is enough to support a family. Crazy.
LaCaixa034 - No.They don't think it's enough to support a family. Who told u that? They don't give a ship. That's reality. In fact, they'd pat themselves on the back for exceeding the min wage. No wage is set for the purpose of raising a family. It's set to compete for labor at the most cost effective rate for a given position, depending on the level of skill and education needed. If they decide that $13 is too much or too little, they adjust it accordingly. For some jobs youre better off not mentioning your degree at all. You'll be overqualified. He probably didn't tell them that he is an engineer. For lower wage jobs, they don't always do extensive background checks. He could say hes been walking dogs. They don't care. It's high turnover work.
The trainers, foremen and supers aren't the brains behind the operation. They're just company men and women. Some of them probably started as laborers. They only know the system and little more.
Fun fact, after sorting job you do now, you can apply for manager position or similar one. Effectively becoming the boss of people that looked down on you.
What does this have to do with political correctness? PC means that you say something about certain groups of people (often ethnicity/race related) in a diplomatic manner without mentioning the group.
The beauty of having wealth and money is that it gives you the freedom to *choose* how you want to spend your time. If you want to spend it traveling the world, you can. If you want to spend it learning new things, you can also do that. It's also why laws that make it expensive to hire workers (especially at the lower pay amounts) are bad because you are losing out on the opportunity to learn new things. It's better to learn and do things this way than to drown in debt to get a degree you'll never end up using like so many people. I make content discussing this very concept frequently. Great video!
You said laws that make it expensive to hire workers are bad because the person being hired will not get the opportunity to work because they will not get hired as easily? I don't see the direct relation here. Are you saying it'll be great if jobs are half the minimum wage, then people can easily get these jobs so they can learn?
For younger people who have less experience especially if it is harder for them to get their first job it is harder for them to progress in the job ladder and get more experience. This is why you see a lot of unemployment in the younger demographic, especially for certain minority groups. There's plenty of red tape that makes it expensive to hire someone. The more risk and hassle an entrepreneur has to take to hire an individual, the more alternatives look more attractive like automation for example. Having the option to work to learn is wonderful and I'm glad you're getting a lot out of it. I was just making that point since you said you were learning a lot from hiring people.
BeatTheBush Infinite Transcendence exactly. It makes it really bloody hard for somebody like me to find a job. I’m 22, with a meager resume of previous minimum wage jobs, and I have to move back to my small hometown of 12000 people or so because there is so much competition over jobs in the nearby city of a million. It’s damn near impossible to even get a part time job because I have to compete with hundreds of other millenials who hold BACHELORS degrees, even ones who hold MASTERS degrees. I don’t want to brag, but I’m really smart. I would even argue that I am genius level smart. I could offer so many organizations so much, but I’m stuck where I am simply because I refuse to go to school because I feel it’s just going to put me in the same position as all of those millennials who have degrees and are still struggling. Fingers crossed I can start some sort of income stream in my hometown.
It's definitely rough out there for you guys and I feel for you. The way you would compete is to say " That guy with a degree who's older wants to do the job for $18, I'll do it for $7 (or below minimum wage) to get my foot in the door." The thing is you can't do that, because it's illegal. Better to get a low pay than to get no pay, because you can always work your way up. What city did you move to that was so competitive? I see plenty of people here with degrees who have nothing.
i totally get this, after years of software development and very little social interaction because i would sit 16 hours a day behind a screen. I realized if i was ever going to grow as a person i needed to do something else. I had a cash cow at the time that allowed me to basically walk away from computer related work and try new things. the pay did not matter because it was all just extra money. i started to try new things. so after selling cars, telemarketing, postal worker, taxi driver, food vendor, flight attendant, handy man, unloading the trailers at UPS (don't remember what they called it) and a few other odd jobs, i then ended up back doing computer work again as my cash cow finally died. Now i'm much more balanced about my work and in a much better place mentally.
i had to. i started having a lot of issues dealing with people, i became very reclusive, i worked from home sitting in front of the computer for long hours, i became a hermit. my social skills were in the toilet. my first wife left me and took my daughter with her (and well in her right) i realized i needed to make a change, It first started with a lot of therapy haha, but then i realized i needed to challenge myself and put myself out of my comfort zone so started working all these different jobs, at one point i even said i would never touch another computer again because i was so afraid of becoming that person i was before. for me writing code was my addiction, my form of escape. it took me about 6 years to get from point a to point b and get myself out of the hole i was in. in the end i had to come back to the computer because, well to be honest all that other kind of work was really hard and pay not great. but it's now been 12 years since starting the journey and i'm still being balanced about everything (well as good as i can be :-). But in any case what your doing is awesome. To many people get comfortable in their situation and they miss everything else going on around them.
sapphireblue222 Are you saying he is slumming? Why doesn't he need the money? Does he have a lot of money already saved up in his bank? And is he going to go back to an engineering job after this brief flirtation with the sorting job?
LOL..... I used to work in factories before getting my engineering degree..... It helps me to understand that I should work as hard as possible in school so that I don't have to come back here again.
Yes, sad to say, but that "talking down" to people is the norm in those low paying jobs. The people who have the lead positions are mostly ignorant themselves. Watch your back bro!
I worked at Amazon as a picker for a Christmas season (2 months). Trust me...it's not glamorous and I probably walked approximately 9 miles during the third shift. Hated it. They keep sending me emails to work again. Nope.
For you having 5 hour repletion during a training was waste of time. You need to realize that for most people working there repetition is what they do. Some of them continue to repeat the processes you have learned on that training for years to come (if they do not lose that job because of technological advantages. I guess I would go crazy with that much repetition. Even as programmer I do not like solving same problem twice, I do not know what I would to if I need to reaper same process for long time. I get that this is reason which is bringing people closer to alcoholism and drugs. Repeating every they same thing and being un-respected.
Even white collar jobs get repetitive. Respect does increase as you become harder to replace but is never fully guaranteed as we all know there are more applicants than positions with people begging to do your job. If you are a coding with more than a few years experience I imagine you are making more than 70K+ easily depending on which part of the country you live in. A mom of 2 making $35K a year would KILL to code or learn how to do it. Something always to remember
Many hiring managers will not hire you if they see you are an engineer or generally over qualified. Do you dumb down you resume do get this types of jobs?
I usually talk friendly and informally to form camaraderie with client. But there are some people who talk down to me. So if they do that, I suddenly adopt my formal voice and use technical banking terms. And they get shook. 😂
Just started at Amazon a weak ago for stortation as well for $12.50, i just need a job, im a sophmore in college trying to gain a little independence so my mother isn't paying for all of my textbooks and what not, I was hurting on my first day but i went with the same logic as you , its just exercising but the worst part is my commute to and fro because I work until 12:30am and sometimes 1:30am because of mandatory overtime I am hoping I'll be able to stick it through for a couple more months tho
My view on working while going to school is I rather borrow more money and fully concentrate on school. Some argue you should work and not incur loans, two different ways to think of things I guess.
When I applied for Amazon, they just mass drug test people and hire anyone they need to fill up positions. Not even a real interview or anything. They never called me back though. I don't know why, but I did overhear a guy there saying he had been drug tested before a few months back and they never called him for the job so he applied again.
No resume, no interview. They asked highest level of education on the online application. Just a drug test, and background check. Maybe because I'm only part time, but I get the impression they'd take just about anyone. lol. It's not that bad a job really, but I wish I could quit it for a job with a job with a six figure salary.
You’re such a humble and genuinely nice guy. There’s something about you that’s very likable. You should really think about vlogging or getting a little more personal (if you desire, of course) like daily life type of videos aside from your informative ones. I really think your viewers/subscribers would respond well to that and Increase your following. Keep up with the informative videos though, love the content!!
I love that saying DON'T JUDGE A BOOK BY ITS COVER this usually happens to me when I go to Costco from those sales man/women the only person that approaches me is a tv/cable guy I guess I looked like someone who watches tv all day never been approached by solar or water refinery guys they just assume I'm not home owner or something I don't feel bad about it in fact I love it they don't bother me but I always think if this is the way they do their business ITS a loss for them . I treat everybody regardless their back ground like they are the next president thanks for sharing your experience
It seems the best thing from a sales person's perspective is to treat everyone equally. But doing so will mean more work for them since they will wast a lot of time on people who look poor but are ACTUALLY poor. So in a sense, their profiling does work when you consider the time/effort aspect. If they are good in picking out well off people that dresses poor, that's a different story.
When I owned a hobby retail shop I ran into that. People would travel pretty far to buy stuff. (This was before Amazon, etc.) One guy I felt pretty open with (black dude) I asked why he was willing to make the long trip. (What am I doing right to make you do that?) "You don't look at me like a criminal." It was definitely a reflective moment on the sabotage businesses do to themselves.
Well, this happens all the time in popular brand’s store in big city, like apple. Their sales men are dead pan face even after your purchase of thousands. No welcome, limited questions response, swipe your credit card with a mobile equipment and pack your stuffs. That’s.🤨 Best Buy salesmen and NYC Macy’s have similar attitude, but at least they have better attitude cashier while check out. I think the big stores in popular location just don’t care if they have your business or not, because you are just a drop of water in the ocean.
I’m also in Sillicon Valley, I work as an accountant, I’ve been dreaming of working at McDonalds but thought that was impossible lol thanks for the video, now I can go after my part time dream job 😃
Being undercover with way too much knowledge is really fun. People think you are stupid, and you act stupid to fit in. Then they find out ur a damn genius and their minds get blown hahahahaha
I'm an engineer as well and totally understand how you view this as fun/stimulating. I think you struggled a bit to relay exactly why it is, but I don't think I can either. I signed up to deliver for postmates on my motorcycle and had a blast doing things like learning new restaurants, learning the streets, adapting my motorcycle kit to the task, calculating my returns, and learning little optimizations. I ended up with about $25/hr and a 2% fuel overhead.
This is great! I quit my reasonably well paying job a few years ago to go back to school. During that time I started working part time at an auto parts store, and still currently work there (full time in a management position). It is amazing what you can learn about people and different walks of life working a basic retail job. I help doctors, lawyers, small business owners, fast food workers, unemployed, all kinds of different people. It is a great life learning experience that I would have never gotten working my previous job(which was an automotive painter). Your video makes me feel less crazy for enjoying the "free education" I am receiving. I am going to share this video with my family and friends who think i'm crazy!
It's great you're doing this for the experience and knowledge of it all. It's really interesting how you said that they would talk down to you and everyone else there. It's very true what you say. It's mainly because they feel you are at some low intelligence level. And that's another reason why they do so much repetition with everything. They feel there will be some people who will not understand it the first or second time. Which is understandable and somewhat true. However, there's no need to talk down to anyone. But that's what happens in many "low paying" jobs. Love your videos. And love learning from them. Keep up the amazing work. Maybe someone at Amazon will recognize you from your TH-cam channel more sooner than later. I bet you that the "talking down" will cease after that.
Jose Asenjo Some People don’t care if you have a lot of money. In fact, the ones that talk down to others will do it more if they find out he is doing it more for fun and learning experience.
Jose Asenjo ya I've worked a bunch of retail jobs. Managers would think I'm an idiot who didn't know how to do basic things or were amazed that i know something. What's funny is i ended up knowing the entire store inventory better then anyone
I might be some of those who get a little higher up and they in turn feel pride in their advancement. This might lead them to want to exert this on others.
In a previous position, I posted as an employee and worked in the field for a week. I was treated horribly and got to see how leadership in the company failed miserably. It was humbling and eye-opening
When I was an assistant manager (22yrs) at a rental car company, I got really frustrated when the "lot attendants" (car washers) couldn't seem to grasp a change of process. I was told "it takes a special person to wash cars all day, so don't expect much from them." That's when I realized that some people learn at a slower pace and they may have a cap. I'm liked in my job because I treat everyone with respect and as equals. I'm very polite and I try to listen to people when they want to vent, and I empathize with them even if their problems seem trivial or tedious because to that person, it could be a tremendous concern. Keeping a happy work environment is important to me, and I think it's more productive to make people want to do their job, than forcing them to do it. So.... "Do not get frustrated, it takes a special kind of person who can sort boxes all day."
i call that camping :P its pretty fun! you're only "homeless" if you camp in the city. go out to the wilderness and no ones going to call you homeless xD
I have first heard about this a couple months ago. My father happens to know a guy that owns a small successful business. As I told him my goal was to one day rent out real estate, he recommended me to work as a real estate agent for a year just to get a lot of knowledge while getting paid for it at the same time Ever since then I thought about every job I ever did not as a nessacity but as a learning experience which makes perfect sense
This is pretty cool honestly! Im 23 young and im making 6 figures myself but I lowkey hate my job but I love the industry I'm inn, and Im moving down myself to a minimum wage job just to learn the insides of a different business and management. Im glad Im not the only one thats downgrading and piecing a puzzle up to maybe build up an empire
This is great....I love it...undercover.....the talking down to is really interesting isn't it...they assume you lack a brain...lol....this is pricelss experience!
TO DECADE: IF HE DOESN'T NEED THE MONEY, THEN DO CHARITY WORK FOR THE POOR -- NOT FOR THE RICHEST MAN IN THE WORLD: BEZOS. When one does this, they will respect you. When they assume, in this situation, he does. *He makes himself this no matter who he is.* It is tantamount to my living in the dubious hood when I have the money to live happily in a tranquil and peaceful house and neighborhood. For the experience? I'd rather love my life.
10:00 That's about right. Companies send trucks with goods to distribution centers where the goods get sorted by country. Then they are moved to harbors where they get shipped to the destination country. There they will be loaded on trucks again to another distribution center to sort them by region, so they can finally be delivered to the customers. There are stickers from the delivery company which mention things like the type of payment contract for delivery (like EXW for example which means that the supplier pays for the whole logistics process) and there are stickers from the supplying companies and distribution centres with content labels. Usually goods get unpacked, checked, storaged and repacked before they get distributed. That's why there are only 2-3 stickers on there at a time.
This is really cool, would like to hear more about your experience with coworkers once you go through it. I found that when I worked minimum wage jobs in college coworkers tend to be the complainer types as opposed to office jobs where people are more professional. Maybe talk about their mindsets differences.
The things ive learned so far in my current amazon sort center: 1- how to use a pallet jack 2- how to stack a pallet 3- how to entertain myself on the line 4- how to avoid people you dont like during shift xD Also, i once walked 8+ miles in one 4hr shift yay....
Taking on new jobs is humbling it takes you out of your comfort zone. it is interesting to see the behind the scenes of how ordering online products gets to your door. I have done work at UPS for a few months manual labor is challenging I think the robots are coming for more of those jobs!
We need more people like you. Too many people start off at an entry-level job and get stuck there. Needless to say that this is only hurting high school kiddos find proper jobs.
Great experiment! As a cubicle dweller we often lose sight of the fact our efforts are actually productive given the chain is so long to reach an end consumer. I often miss the teenage years where I worked in service jobs (restaurants etc.) where it was clearer your efforts paid off immediately. With a wife, kids, mortgage etc. I cannot do this experiment myself but would love to participate. I am sure your engineering background will have you relay to your superiors various ways to improve the sorting process. Let us know how it works out!
Doubt that (in reference to the sorting process), unless the workers themselves are not placing items where Amazon's sorting algorithm tells them, then it should be nearly 100% efficient. Not saying he could not think of a sorting process, but unless he is a software engineer (like me) he would have to spend some time learning about sorting algorithms e.g. bucket, counting, merge, quick and about computational time (for the humans to place and find), stacks, priority stacks etc. If after all that he could construct an algorithm that has a better O(n) (how we measure the slowest a chuck of code will run e.g. O(nlogn)) then what Amazon's current team of engineers have spent the last what 15+ years improving, then he would most likely be one of the highest paid people in silicon valley and be hailed as one the smartest people ever, which he could be I'm just stating how crazy of a task that would be.
Having some feel for the end product is important. In that case, handling the package. =D Oh yes, I have so many ideas already. I think I cannot share the details but I can later say if I did relay something that was implemented. Perfector: I can program. Back in school, I always made my programs run. One of the ones I liked is using a UDP protocol and converting it to TCP. That ran so well. =D
B.T.B., these experiences will be fantastic for you, I swear you're awesome. But honestly, the MOST stimulation you will receive from this is the physical exertion of the job and a nice "workout". You will find that these small-minded people and these menial routine jobs will BORE you... there will be little mental stimulation from the people in these environments and it could possibly depress you, until you quit and move on to the next gig. I think you're AMAZING for what you're doing, by challenging yourself and operating in a totally different construct. But take it from one that has had more jobs than the avg. American: these J-O-Bs will deflate you- not because of the job description or the company per se- but because, without these people knowing your financial background; education level and skill set, they will attempt to belittle you AND show you how very much beneath you they truly are. In this video, it sounds as if this is that part of the workplace that you've not been exposed to- the kind where formal education isn't a requirement for the job. As you said, this will be an eye opening experience and I hope you enjoy it all. Your sanguine-like nature will turn it into lessons learned all time, rather than obstacles. The absolute BEAUTY in your situation is that as soon as it irks you, you can walk out of that place and never return. Many people are enslaved to these places, as financial independence is not the position they are in, or may ever know. God Bless you B.T.B.!
It is already opening my mind about all this. And I'm surprised many people say the same thing about the belittlement part. I'm surprised and why I am doing it.
I worked for Amazons prime pantry. For being right out of highschool it's a decent paying job. I never was one who liked school. But seeing your videos makes me want to go to college and make somthing of myself
Hahaa you remind me of an anime I watched called Golden Boy. Basically he is very very talented/smart and he dropped out of university...only after he sucessfully completed every course they offered 🤣 and he just goes travelling around on his bike applying to different jobs for a while to learn more
I worked at Amazon one holiday as a picker. In a 12 hour shift I think my fitbit counter over 15000 steps. I had bad knees and they were killing me after. Nope, I dont think ill work there again.
I LOVED this - I esp appreciate your sensitivity in noticing the disregard/disrespect the employees were treated with. The cumulative effect of that could be significant over a lifetime and people need to realize that. I’m glad to hear you did not experience it in your work as an engineer - no one should! Thanks for sharing this cool story!
This is actually something I was thinking about doing if I ever won the lottery. Which I don't play anymore. But it seems pretty interesting to be a work tourist. As long as you don't care about how it looks on your job history.
I'm sure splurging get's old after a while unless you're one of many that goes bankrupt and massively into debt because they can't handle the sudden influx of cash :)
Manager talking down their employees? That's a clear sign of bad management. I can tell you that none of the top managers will talk down to people. Only the jerks do. Proof: when asked with a question that they don't know the answer, they deflect it. "you don't need to know that." whereas good manager will say "good question. I don't know. Let's find out." Regardless of how good you are or how good the company is, you won't have a career there. They'll use you as scapegoat for their mistakes. Don't stay too long. Leaving should be easy. Such places have high turnover rate. As long as you won't be suing them, they'll let you go easy. It may be interesting to note the different turnover rate between your engineering job and this Amazon one. Just remember: it's not the job. It's the people!
Yovani H. You mean, many managers are like that. It may surprise you that so many "managers" are really just workers with manager as job title. They still act as workers. There was a rush of managers training in the 80s. "Synergy" was the buzzword. Followed by large scale elimination of middle management positions. Presumably because those managers are found to be incompetent, once people know what good management entails.
Timothy Gibney I hope that there aren't many like that, but some industries are more susceptible to that. But really, it's not the job. It's the person. A good manager will train and take care of you properly. A bad one will derail your career pretty quick. For example: EA spouse. those computer game workers, a dream job for some, were horrifically abused. They didn't last past a single project, and when they quit, they found out the hard way that they were considered "damaged goods" and nobody wants to hire them. No matter what the industry, there are always good and bad players. Find good ones.
I think it's disrespectful/abusive to the employer and possibly to other workers to get yourself hired with the intention of leaving after a week. Unless they know it and still want to hire you, of course.
Not when the employer is Amazon, I've worked at Amazon wharehouses and the position he has extremely high turnover. If he left tommorow no one would even notice.
The employer expects a certain percentage of new hired to quit or get fired. That's what always happens. It's not that personal. No respect given, no disrespect offered.
Just curious, but while you were doing your 'method acting' thing here, were you also limiting your intake based on your income of this job? Say, only using the money you are making from this job to pay for food, gas, bills, 'rent', etc?
Good for you, Francis! Years ago, I knew a co-worker who was an engineer, but decided to work at a pretty "mindless" warehouse job. He was so sick of bringing his work home with him, so he decided to find a punch-in and punch-out job and keep the work at the warehouse. He seemed like a really happy guy and relieved to be out of the stress. Your situation is a little different, but I'm glad you have the ability to choose what to do.
EVERY SINGLE PERSON should do a thankless, low paying job at least once in their lives. If they did, there would be less rude customers and less stuck up managers/superiors, which would make every workplace a lot more bearable.
That would be ideal. =D They do that sometimes but its rare.
MrBeatboxmasta would be nice if all people would learn some humility from such experience and develop sympathy towards those who have to do those jobs. But sadly lots of people are sociopathic aholes who after going through some hardship do not become understanding and empathetic. They aren't thinking "this is shit, nobody should be treated like this, everybody deserves to be treated good, let's change it, let's make it better". No, Instead they expect others to go through what they had to and suffer as much as they did or worse. It's basically the "My parents beat me, so now it's my turn to beat my children" mentallity
Lots of people are just shit and that's why nothing will ever change.
May the science be with you....you're correct. I do however think we would have a more empathetic society than what we currently have. Some people are just mean to their core but some would be willing to learn from such experiences.
I completely agree. I quit a high paying, Masters degree job that I hated and decided to work at a nail shop where I thought would be fun. Turns out this particular shop wasn’t; I was underpaid and overworked. I was the only girl there (besides the owner) and did most of the labor while her sons just sat down on their iphones and did nothing. It crushed my spirit and was the most thankless job I have ever had. My boss didn’t value me and the customers sized me up everyday. When I told her I got a new job and put my two week notice in, she didn’t congratulate me. Instead she just said she didn’t need me and that that particular week would be my last week. However I learned a lot about myself in the year I worked that job. I learned how to work alongside rude people. I am a lot more humble and appreciative and understanding for people who are dealing with these kinds of jobs. Even though I was treated like crap, it was an eye opening experience and I will forever be grateful for it.
MrBeatboxmasta what do you mean? College grads can only find low wage retail and fastfood jobs...lol
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I have a Masters degree and prior to finding a job in my field, I had to work at some minimum wage jobs. You are correct in your observations that people can be condescending. I like that you are not afraid to try new experiences.
And what a crazy ride it is. =D
People are usually condescending because they can be. They did whatever it took to get where they are and that path is extremely hard. Compared to someone who just took an easy minimum wage job, no respect given
So true! Worked at a gas station right after my masters - actually at a pretty competitive school in a competitive program. Loved my coworkers who were from ALL works of life. Sooo many customers treated me like an idiot!
You are one unique cat! I give you major props for doing this. Respect!
=D Thanks!
I also love your perspective - I know that's not your end goal but how did you get the position and what made you decide to work in this field? What other jobs are you interested in?
The "talking down" incident seems like it's just a dumbass trying to brush off some authority to people below them so they can feel more empowered. All because they have a $3/hr extra in their hourly.
I see this all the time. Why can't we all just be nice to one another, or learn how to better communicate.
An eye opener and I treasure it. =D
Police officers always do this crap. They always talk like they are more than you
Well said.
Teo G Poker Vlog as someone who is currently hired under amazon, its completely what it is. Managment is just a powertrip, we are understaffed and unappriciated. On top of that, doing the right thing and being slow and not throwing packages basically gets you fired
At the video time of 7:23 minutes: This is where you err, Mr Bush. You are a highly skilled and intelligent man feigning lower class status. Obviously, you do not need certain things repeated to you. You get it quickly. Then, why blabble on the You Tube about this? Maybe you didn't realize this and was inadvertently and indirectly building yourself up at the expense of the ones who are not as astute as you. This is why we have "class situations and struggles:" People have different needs and you should always be aware of this. If you want to blend -- show this on You Tube.
💡The ego is a beast. People talk down to other people because of their own self inflated ego. People perceive being talked down to because of their own self inflated ego. I have decided that someone talking down to me has nothing to do with me. 🤔
Hmmm... that could be a possibility. But it is also a contrast on how one is normally treated in different environments.
BeatTheBush if your a curious person, settings like this tend to talk down to others who ask questions and cherish learning.
@@karamlevi I agree!
Really thought provoking comment...One other thing I thought of...maybe some people feel so low in their self that they feel talked down to even when it is not the case
Prime example of being overqualified for a job. lol
Well.. the skill needed is manual labor so its not to say I can be best at this job but I sure am going to try!
ha ha (Amazon Prime) no pun right?
ASRM Earthling it's funny though, because his insight might have actually save the company money by having a special insight that people pushing papers in an off sight office don't have like how the training are excessively long and costly. With that said he could end up bonding with the workers and opening up all their minds to do better things and demand more. LOL
This is very interesting. I got an Engineering degree and straight out of college I got a well paying job, however I’ve been interested in working at Target just for fun during the weekends. Haha I don’t need the money but I’m just curious just like you.
Go Beyond Engineering how much you making
I did, and it's a truly truly humbling experience. Being great at studying has NOTHING to do with how well you'd perform in retail.
Terrible idea
there are hot chicks that work at target. if you are a single guy there are tons more chicks worth banging at target than at any tech company
brownhippy lmao hahahaha
I admire this experiment.
=D
*PLEASE ADOPT ME - I will not dishonor family*
How did this comment already get 79 likes in 20 minutes?
And how did this comment only get 30 more likes in 1 month
Lol 😂😂😂
Famerly lol
It's so funny how curious you are. Had me smiling love your enthusiasm.
Sometimes curiosity could get me in trouble but I've been okay so far.
That's freedom! Just doing things because you're interested in.
Some might not understand but I have a high interest in these random jobs. Perhaps it'll get old and I'll never want to do a random job again.
or make a show lol loke dirty jobs.
The funny thing is you probably have a higher education than the lady who accused you of “not following directions” Lol
Maybe but it's ok.
BeatTheBush, What's sad for most people is that they are stuck working at those places. Society, outside influences, whatever it may be. "whatever is meant to be will be, but I control my destiny." Great video. I hope the best.
this is true freedom. when you invest wisely you can have choices, take breaks and live well. start investing 28 dollars a day will be 10,000 in a year.
That's like 2 hours of my wages! Well, yes... you need to build up that cash flow so you can invest the rest.
28 to 10,000 hahaha
28x365= $10,220.
with 100 i made 700 in 2 weeks from cryptocurrency
If only I could find a 100 sources of, ¢28 increment of income...🤔 $840 a month is far too much for far too many!
What some tend to forget is 6 figure salaries are very high stress and very hard to maintain high stress for long periods of time . sometimes not worth it.
Generally, I was not too stressed at my high paying job. Just that it took 40 hr/week.
Well... the flip side to that is not being able to pay rent, buy food, etc. is pretty high stress as well.
Michael Huang if you choose to live in the bay area, sure. I would rather minimalize and live in area of lower cost of living.
Coping there my friend. I'm sure the stress and the amount you get paid do not correlate in most jobs.
The working world is organised and paid in some sort of hierarchy of people just like high school. Always thought it was more complex but it really isn't when it comes down to it.
I quit my office job and work from home since then. I don't have 'stability' anymore, but I feel happier. 😊
haha I love it. This is something that a lot of people miss out on. In order to learn you need put your self in these types of internship situations.
I remember when I first started learning how to make money online I worked for free for an SEO company for about 4 months. I Did not earn anything but I LEARNED a ton.
This is very cool. Great vid, wish you success in your future.
Thanks! I'm not sure what I will need these skills for but it seems to me, what ever I learn, I somehow manage to cobble it together later in life to make it work together.
Mitch Parker learning is the main goal. learn then earn
how u Used that learning? can u Tell?
BeatTheBush rich dad poor dad?
BeatTheBush Sortation Center? Do you mean sorting center?
I did Uber as a driver for a few months, and got to see things from a drivers perspective. One unexpected consequence was that it restored my faith in humanity. I had hundreds of rides with people that were great, and could count the “bad” ones on one hand. I also got to experience weird glitches and problems in the service, and think of ways that could improve (or disrupt) ride sharing services. Very educational, overall!
I read a bunch of books that highlighted these people working 2 jobs and have always wondered if I could "hang" if even for a short period.
So on top of my 60 hour a week start up, took up a part time job at my local golf course.
There were no jobs available immediately so I took to more creative means of acquiring a job.
I said are there any volunteer positions available. As a perk, for 10 hours volunteered a week, you could get free off-peak golf rounds and a cart.
Did this for a month and then I was asked my the head pro if I'd be interested in interviewing for a part-time job.
I was asked about my previously education and I straight up said that I wanted to learn the process... The ins and out of golf and how to run a golf course.
Did this part time job for about 9ish months on top of my normal gig and ultimately had to tell the golf pro I had to leave because it was starting to conflict with my actual job.
Ultimately, I had to tell the golf pro that I had hired more employees and I needed to spend more time training them and helping them grow.
You'll learn a whole lot from the people you meet, especially if you work at a place that attracts people of all ages. In school, out of school, working a 2nd job, retired, etc...
I doubt I could hang. That's why I did only one shift of 4 hours a day and only minimal shifts during the week. I'm already sort. LOL!
I guess it really has to do with your team both at your primary job and the leadership of your part-time job.
I had a bunch of high school/college kids that were just all over the place in terms of energy and that actually was a plus because I fed off that energy even when I was most tired from working outside at my part-time job.
The part-time job had several people(at least 3 that I can remember) that were the strong, silent-type. Had never had so many in once space before, let alone worked with them and it was truly a joy. They led by example and never complained. They were always on time and were willing to share their knowledge to those willing to make the effort to learn. I don't regret one minute of it!
I worked for McDonalds for a few weeks, even though I was qualified for a higher paying job in a technical field. I was tasked to prepare the food but also clean up tables, empty trash bins, clean the floor outside and inside, and even clean some parts of the bathroom. It forever gave me appreciation and respect for people who work in low-paying jobs, who clean up streets, offices, restaurants, bars, public bathrooms, work in wastewater services, landfills, etc. Without them, what would we be? These jobs might be looked down upon, but they are as essential as doctors, teachers, engineers, police officers, etc. It's nothing and I don't deserve praises for it, but I make a point of cleaning up after myself at restaurants, public bathrooms, parks, streets... basically anywhere public. Not everybody does that, unfortunately.
Oh man ! You’ve got the gloves on, LOL. Dude , you’re attitude is freaking unreal. You really have a open mind , wish I could work with you a few days.
Thanks! I'm not working there anymore now. I must attend to TH-cam. =D
Yes, me too. I’m a You Tuber about to quit work. I’m coming to you for those little tips about saving for when I make that transition. Have you heard about a Steemit my my friend, I feel you’ll do well in that place.
It’s a content site linked to a crypto and I’m doing very good. Honestly, my content and fan base is a mouse fart compared to you. You should check it out.
BeatTheBush you shoulda stayed a bit longer. Its extra cash.
Do gloves turn you on? I love socks...
I have had various jobs in my lifetime. Some I enjoyed and some I didn’t enjoy it at all. I always looked at it like this, if it was a job I enjoyed that was great if it was a job I did not enjoy I thought of it as getting paid to learn. I always found there was something to learn in every job and in every situation. Because of that I know how to do many things. Perhaps the largest bonus is learning about human nature. Yes there is a hierarchy in the workplace. The dynamics of the workplace and of those in authority over you are very interesting. Sometimes people like to be a big fish in a little pond. I enjoyed this video very much. Thank you BTB.
You're welcome. =D
SIMPLE FOOD SIMPLE LIFE 100% agree.
I learned a little from every job I had. Used that knowledge to start my own business.
sam gif what kind of business ?
To nice to see someone that is college education and make a lot of money to see the other side of business hopefully you take away some good lessons from this and the people that bowl people that are below you I will appreciate it
michael wallace - Several years ago, a White upper middle class woman did an experiment. Took leave from her high-paying job, denied herself access to her bank account, credit cards, etc. She took a waitressing job and b4 the month was out, found herself short of cash and feeling threatened by her landlord. She ended the experiment b4 the time she'd initially slotred for it. She wrote about it and became ever sympathetic to the working poor. I hope she's still doing well.
I already have some more feed back about human nature already. It's very interesting.
BeatTheBush just remember to always try and learn something new everyday love you videos
That book is called Nickel and Dimed.
I don't know if that's the same experiment I've read, but I remember reading about a woman doing something similar, but she worked at McDonalds (I think). It was a humbling experience for her as well. Also, just to mention something. Just because someone has a higher paying job, does not mean they aren't poor. There are some people who make terrible financial decisions and don't mind putting themselves or their family in bad situations. Trust, I've been there and experienced it! Check out Dave Ramsey's show as well and you'll see similar comments (and videos).
I was laughing when you got talked down to, not at you, more like with you. Its the way others get treated on a daily basis. People get used to talking to others that way due to rank and negative perspective of others. It's human nature in a way. What an awesome experience you are having. I have a masters in social work and I did Lyft for 6 months part time and it really taught me a lot about customer service.
I worked in customer service also and I met a lot of people from it.
True Miguel. I worked at call centers (WORST) and organizations that try to push metrics on you and do not give a shit about you or your dignity. IT is not human nature to be mean. It is more like they know there are +50 applications on file for people BEGGING TO WORK who can also do the job. It is more like well if Miguel Chavez can't do it, Mary can attitude. Life is certainly not fair. Even Lyft is a step above a call center or fastfood in my opinion. There is always a worse job and certainly much better ones to be grateful you have.
It is really an eye opener doing these kind of things, you get to meet the kind of people you don't normally would. The human interaction and communication, it will certainly helps on people taking on a leadership or any kind of human relation role in the future. On top of that learning how certain business operates is quite a learning experience, not many people have privilege to do so, enjoy the experience and take it to heart of what you learned.
If only they knew how much richer he was than them lol
I never really thought about that, but yeah basically the second I started my engineering job, nobody talks down to me. Not even upper management or executives. Whereas when I was working part time jobs in college it was pretty common.
Interesting right? When you are in a cubicle, you are given more benefit of doubt.
Well an employee at Walmart makes 20k and a manager makes over 100k. A friend of mine disagreed with his manager on something and then he got yelled at with the manager saying, "You know how much money I make?"
More and more it has become the norm that employees are only given any information on a need-to-know basis; unfortunately, the result is having no awareness as to how one's role impacts the big picture... love seeing you in the blue-collar labor outfit!
I need more in order to do my job more efficiently. At least I wonder if they ever put Amazon engineers who design the system to work at the warehouse for a week. They really should.
This is so true. It's something I think of all the time, because I work at these kinds of jobs. I remember Richard Feynman would describe this in many of his stories ... that higher ups need to talk to and learn from the people actually doing the work.
+hyena hiena good point. Have you noticed how the bosses on the show "undercover boss" tend not be effective workers when they try to work as employees. They often can't even get the job done right.
+Nadege Jacquet Oh how I would love to see my boss' boss trying to down stack pallets and stock shelves like he expects us to do... lol
Yes, they do this on purpose. If you teach your workers too much, they can progress to better jobs because of their knowledge and experience. This is how big companies operate.
Boy, I know what you mean! I have an MBA and wasn't able to get a good job right away and had to work in a warehouse. Mind blowing how people think in that setting. Hoarding information, so only they know how to do it and thinking that $13 an hour is enough to support a family. Crazy.
LaCaixa034 Limited perspective does that. Working and living in a limited or negative environment produces limited vision and perspective.
LaCaixa034 - No.They don't think it's enough to support a family. Who told u that? They don't give a ship. That's reality. In fact, they'd pat themselves on the back for exceeding the min wage.
No wage is set for the purpose of raising a family. It's set to compete for labor at the most cost effective rate for a given position, depending on the level of skill and education needed. If they decide that $13 is too much or too little, they adjust it accordingly.
For some jobs youre better off not mentioning your degree at all. You'll be overqualified. He probably didn't tell them that he is an engineer. For lower wage jobs, they don't always do extensive background checks. He could say hes been walking dogs. They don't care. It's high turnover work.
The trainers, foremen and supers aren't the brains behind the operation. They're just company men and women. Some of them probably started as laborers. They only know the system and little more.
Hoarding info? Oh, like how to do it well?
how shit was the school? get an mba then go to a hedgefund/pe and make 6figure easy as an associate
Fun fact, after sorting job you do now, you can apply for manager position or similar one.
Effectively becoming the boss of people that looked down on you.
Again, I got a few chuckles out of this video. You’ve stated the truth in a nice P.C. way. Awesome that you have the ability to follow your curiosity
=D It's good to be PC or else I'd get so much flame on TH-cam you wouldn't believe.
What does this have to do with political correctness? PC means that you say something about certain groups of people (often ethnicity/race related) in a diplomatic manner without mentioning the group.
The beauty of having wealth and money is that it gives you the freedom to *choose* how you want to spend your time. If you want to spend it traveling the world, you can. If you want to spend it learning new things, you can also do that. It's also why laws that make it expensive to hire workers (especially at the lower pay amounts) are bad because you are losing out on the opportunity to learn new things.
It's better to learn and do things this way than to drown in debt to get a degree you'll never end up using like so many people. I make content discussing this very concept frequently. Great video!
yep. it's always best to have control and freedom no matter what!!
You said laws that make it expensive to hire workers are bad because the person being hired will not get the opportunity to work because they will not get hired as easily? I don't see the direct relation here. Are you saying it'll be great if jobs are half the minimum wage, then people can easily get these jobs so they can learn?
For younger people who have less experience especially if it is harder for them to get their first job it is harder for them to progress in the job ladder and get more experience. This is why you see a lot of unemployment in the younger demographic, especially for certain minority groups.
There's plenty of red tape that makes it expensive to hire someone. The more risk and hassle an entrepreneur has to take to hire an individual, the more alternatives look more attractive like automation for example. Having the option to work to learn is wonderful and I'm glad you're getting a lot out of it. I was just making that point since you said you were learning a lot from hiring people.
BeatTheBush Infinite Transcendence exactly. It makes it really bloody hard for somebody like me to find a job. I’m 22, with a meager resume of previous minimum wage jobs, and I have to move back to my small hometown of 12000 people or so because there is so much competition over jobs in the nearby city of a million. It’s damn near impossible to even get a part time job because I have to compete with hundreds of other millenials who hold BACHELORS degrees, even ones who hold MASTERS degrees. I don’t want to brag, but I’m really smart. I would even argue that I am genius level smart. I could offer so many organizations so much, but I’m stuck where I am simply because I refuse to go to school because I feel it’s just going to put me in the same position as all of those millennials who have degrees and are still struggling. Fingers crossed I can start some sort of income stream in my hometown.
It's definitely rough out there for you guys and I feel for you. The way you would compete is to say " That guy with a degree who's older wants to do the job for $18, I'll do it for $7 (or below minimum wage) to get my foot in the door."
The thing is you can't do that, because it's illegal. Better to get a low pay than to get no pay, because you can always work your way up.
What city did you move to that was so competitive? I see plenty of people here with degrees who have nothing.
i totally get this, after years of software development and very little social interaction because i would sit 16 hours a day behind a screen. I realized if i was ever going to grow as a person i needed to do something else. I had a cash cow at the time that allowed me to basically walk away from computer related work and try new things. the pay did not matter because it was all just extra money. i started to try new things. so after selling cars, telemarketing, postal worker, taxi driver, food vendor, flight attendant, handy man, unloading the trailers at UPS (don't remember what they called it) and a few other odd jobs, i then ended up back doing computer work again as my cash cow finally died. Now i'm much more balanced about my work and in a much better place mentally.
WOW... you did all of that? That is just awesome to be able to live through it. It makes one have a good perspective on things I think.
i had to. i started having a lot of issues dealing with people, i became very reclusive, i worked from home sitting in front of the computer for long hours, i became a hermit. my social skills were in the toilet. my first wife left me and took my daughter with her (and well in her right) i realized i needed to make a change, It first started with a lot of therapy haha, but then i realized i needed to challenge myself and put myself out of my comfort zone so started working all these different jobs, at one point i even said i would never touch another computer again because i was so afraid of becoming that person i was before. for me writing code was my addiction, my form of escape. it took me about 6 years to get from point a to point b and get myself out of the hole i was in. in the end i had to come back to the computer because, well to be honest all that other kind of work was really hard and pay not great. but it's now been 12 years since starting the journey and i'm still being balanced about everything (well as good as i can be :-). But in any case what your doing is awesome. To many people get comfortable in their situation and they miss everything else going on around them.
Robert Kiyosaki says that if you want to learn how to start and run a business, work at McDonald's. You are not stupid for working at Amazon
I wonder if you have a lot of people working at McD thinking they are to become business owners though. Just learning different things here. =D
I’m a biologist currently, and during college I tried to work at McDonald’s. I only lasted 4 days. It was THE hardest job that I have ever done!
I think they say one of the most common workplace sentiments is that you can do your manager's job better.
Sounds like a great idea if you don't need the money. Good Luck at your new job!
Exactly. Learning.
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Are you saying he is slumming? Why doesn't he need the money? Does he have a lot of money already saved up in his bank? And is he going to go back to an engineering job after this brief flirtation with the sorting job?
LOL..... I used to work in factories before getting my engineering degree..... It helps me to understand that I should work as hard as possible in school so that I don't have to come back here again.
Reminds me of the show "undercover boss"...
I was thinking that, except I'm not their boss or anyone's boss.
Yes, sad to say, but that "talking down" to people is the norm in those low paying jobs. The people who have the lead positions are mostly ignorant themselves. Watch your back bro!
You seem like a good human being 👍🌎
I worked at Amazon as a picker for a Christmas season (2 months). Trust me...it's not glamorous and I probably walked approximately 9 miles during the third shift. Hated it. They keep sending me emails to work again. Nope.
For you having 5 hour repletion during a training was waste of time. You need to realize that for most people working there repetition is what they do. Some of them continue to repeat the processes you have learned on that training for years to come (if they do not lose that job because of technological advantages. I guess I would go crazy with that much repetition. Even as programmer I do not like solving same problem twice, I do not know what I would to if I need to reaper same process for long time. I get that this is reason which is bringing people closer to alcoholism and drugs. Repeating every they same thing and being un-respected.
They have a way where you can move to other functions that is not exactly the same.
For low educated people that is not that easy. And new job will probably be as repetitive as previous
one.
Even white collar jobs get repetitive. Respect does increase as you become harder to replace but is never fully guaranteed as we all know there are more applicants than positions with people begging to do your job. If you are a coding with more than a few years experience I imagine you are making more than 70K+ easily depending on which part of the country you live in. A mom of 2 making $35K a year would KILL to code or learn how to do it. Something always to remember
Many hiring managers will not hire you if they see you are an engineer or generally over qualified. Do you dumb down you resume do get this types of jobs?
Sometimes "feel free to ask us any questions" means "I'm hoping you don't have any questions" lol
Lol... I'm gonna ask if they say that. =D
Something they have to say
Talking down is common = and often insulting.
Very interesting I though. Not mad at them at all though.
I am both mad and sad. 😏
BeatTheBush why would that not make you mad nobody has the right to talk down to anybody
I usually talk friendly and informally to form camaraderie with client. But there are some people who talk down to me. So if they do that, I suddenly adopt my formal voice and use technical banking terms. And they get shook. 😂
Just started at Amazon a weak ago for stortation as well for $12.50, i just need a job, im a sophmore in college trying to gain a little independence so my mother isn't paying for all of my textbooks and what not, I was hurting on my first day but i went with the same logic as you , its just exercising but the worst part is my commute to and fro because I work until 12:30am and sometimes 1:30am because of mandatory overtime I am hoping I'll be able to stick it through for a couple more months tho
My view on working while going to school is I rather borrow more money and fully concentrate on school. Some argue you should work and not incur loans, two different ways to think of things I guess.
Did you include all of your educational credentials and past employment history when applying? If you did, was it brought up at any point?
No, I gave no history at all.
Da Kine Kaumanua, Amazon hires anyone with two legs and arms. Doesn't matter the education. I know a few people with MBAs etc working here at Amazon.
So you did not include a resume when applying? Did they ask you about your highest level of education?
When I applied for Amazon, they just mass drug test people and hire anyone they need to fill up positions. Not even a real interview or anything. They never called me back though. I don't know why, but I did overhear a guy there saying he had been drug tested before a few months back and they never called him for the job so he applied again.
No resume, no interview. They asked highest level of education on the online application. Just a drug test, and background check. Maybe because I'm only part time, but I get the impression they'd take just about anyone. lol. It's not that bad a job really, but I wish I could quit it for a job with a job with a six figure salary.
lol this is really funny I'm looking forward to rest of the videos
We'll see where it goes.
You’re such a humble and genuinely nice guy. There’s something about you that’s very likable. You should really think about vlogging or getting a little more personal (if you desire, of course) like daily life type of videos aside from your informative ones. I really think your viewers/subscribers would respond well to that and Increase your following. Keep up with the informative videos though, love the content!!
Now that's some high curiosity! You should move to Stardew Valley next!
What is there?
A farm away from the hustle and bustle of business life.
It's a beautiful game.
The Monk Way Amazon is totally Joja just look at the logo lol
The Monk Way Cute comment
I love that saying DON'T JUDGE A BOOK BY ITS COVER this usually happens to me when I go to Costco from those sales man/women the only person that approaches me is a tv/cable guy I guess I looked like someone who watches tv all day never been approached by solar or water refinery guys they just assume I'm not home owner or something I don't feel bad about it in fact I love it they don't bother me but I always think if this is the way they do their business ITS a loss for them . I treat everybody regardless their back ground like they are the next president thanks for sharing your experience
It seems the best thing from a sales person's perspective is to treat everyone equally. But doing so will mean more work for them since they will wast a lot of time on people who look poor but are ACTUALLY poor. So in a sense, their profiling does work when you consider the time/effort aspect.
If they are good in picking out well off people that dresses poor, that's a different story.
Of cours they're not gonna approach you if you look like a homeless
When I owned a hobby retail shop I ran into that. People would travel pretty far to buy stuff. (This was before Amazon, etc.) One guy I felt pretty open with (black dude) I asked why he was willing to make the long trip. (What am I doing right to make you do that?) "You don't look at me like a criminal." It was definitely a reflective moment on the sabotage businesses do to themselves.
Well, this happens all the time in popular brand’s store in big city, like apple. Their sales men are dead pan face even after your purchase of thousands. No welcome, limited questions response, swipe your credit card with a mobile equipment and pack your stuffs. That’s.🤨 Best Buy salesmen and NYC Macy’s have similar attitude, but at least they have better attitude cashier while check out. I think the big stores in popular location just don’t care if they have your business or not, because you are just a drop of water in the ocean.
I love this guy. Dude does whatever the fuck he wants. No fucks given. BTB4LIFE!!!!!
Thanks for your support. =D
Did Amazon actually pay you and do they know you’re gonna quit after a week or so?
Love your perspective on things man!
Thanks! =D
I’m also in Sillicon Valley, I work as an accountant, I’ve been dreaming of working at McDonalds but thought that was impossible lol thanks for the video, now I can go after my part time dream job 😃
=D I wonder what you need to do to get a job there.
I️ love this so much, experiencing change in the work area of my life has really opened my eyes to a new world of knowledge and communications!
I agree!
Being undercover with way too much knowledge is really fun. People think you are stupid, and you act stupid to fit in. Then they find out ur a damn genius and their minds get blown hahahahaha
I will not blow any minds of my own doing on purpose. Not my goal here as it's sort of like a self indulgence in pride or something.
I'm an engineer as well and totally understand how you view this as fun/stimulating. I think you struggled a bit to relay exactly why it is, but I don't think I can either.
I signed up to deliver for postmates on my motorcycle and had a blast doing things like learning new restaurants, learning the streets, adapting my motorcycle kit to the task, calculating my returns, and learning little optimizations.
I ended up with about $25/hr and a 2% fuel overhead.
This is great! I quit my reasonably well paying job a few years ago to go back to school. During that time I started working part time at an auto parts store, and still currently work there (full time in a management position). It is amazing what you can learn about people and different walks of life working a basic retail job. I help doctors, lawyers, small business owners, fast food workers, unemployed, all kinds of different people. It is a great life learning experience that I would have never gotten working my previous job(which was an automotive painter). Your video makes me feel less crazy for enjoying the "free education" I am receiving. I am going to share this video with my family and friends who think i'm crazy!
Well, I'm only going to do this very short term. To me, one summer is probably too long.
It's great you're doing this for the experience and knowledge of it all. It's really interesting how you said that they would talk down to you and everyone else there. It's very true what you say. It's mainly because they feel you are at some low intelligence level. And that's another reason why they do so much repetition with everything. They feel there will be some people who will not understand it the first or second time. Which is understandable and somewhat true. However, there's no need to talk down to anyone. But that's what happens in many "low paying" jobs. Love your videos. And love learning from them. Keep up the amazing work. Maybe someone at Amazon will recognize you from your TH-cam channel more sooner than later. I bet you that the "talking down" will cease after that.
Jose Asenjo Some People don’t care if you have a lot of money. In fact, the ones that talk down to others will do it more if they find out he is doing it more for fun and learning experience.
I doubt anyone will recognize you from youtube....its more educated than watch BTB...
Jose Asenjo ya I've worked a bunch of retail jobs. Managers would think I'm an idiot who didn't know how to do basic things or were amazed that i know something. What's funny is i ended up knowing the entire store inventory better then anyone
I might be some of those who get a little higher up and they in turn feel pride in their advancement. This might lead them to want to exert this on others.
Yes, I very much agree!
I have done similar choices and i regret nothing. New experiences and some variation in the daily life. Sounds interesting this amazon adventure.
=D Intensely.
Very interesting! I also wanted to try this for various reasons. I love this and I'll stay tuned.
=D
His gratefulness is truly aspiring.
In a previous position, I posted as an employee and worked in the field for a week. I was treated horribly and got to see how leadership in the company failed miserably. It was humbling and eye-opening
When I was an assistant manager (22yrs) at a rental car company, I got really frustrated when the "lot attendants" (car washers) couldn't seem to grasp a change of process. I was told "it takes a special person to wash cars all day, so don't expect much from them."
That's when I realized that some people learn at a slower pace and they may have a cap.
I'm liked in my job because I treat everyone with respect and as equals. I'm very polite and I try to listen to people when they want to vent, and I empathize with them even if their problems seem trivial or tedious because to that person, it could be a tremendous concern. Keeping a happy work environment is important to me, and I think it's more productive to make people want to do their job, than forcing them to do it.
So.... "Do not get frustrated, it takes a special kind of person who can sort boxes all day."
Once I optimize the strategy and have it down, I think I'll start to get bored. But I'm still ramping up my speed.
Next is being homeless for five days ha ha ha.
That is a great idea but I'm not sure about that.
i call that camping :P its pretty fun! you're only "homeless" if you camp in the city. go out to the wilderness and no ones going to call you homeless xD
@@BeatTheBush u should
So true. @@saikou1490
I enjoyed this video
ENGINEERED TRUTH You too are similar in many ways 😄❤️
I have first heard about this a couple months ago.
My father happens to know a guy that owns a small successful business.
As I told him my goal was to one day rent out real estate, he recommended me to work as a real estate agent for a year just to get a lot of knowledge while getting paid for it at the same time
Ever since then I thought about every job I ever did not as a nessacity but as a learning experience which makes perfect sense
This is pretty cool honestly! Im 23 young and im making 6 figures myself but I lowkey hate my job but I love the industry I'm inn, and Im moving down myself to a minimum wage job just to learn the insides of a different business and management. Im glad Im not the only one thats downgrading and piecing a puzzle up to maybe build up an empire
This is great....I love it...undercover.....the talking down to is really interesting isn't it...they assume you lack a brain...lol....this is pricelss experience!
Makes for an interesting video for the viewer. =D
He is actually an undercover spy
I enjoyed this part also :p Great to have someone articulate the experience.
It's not so funny for the people who do have a brain but no means of escape like BeatTheBush. Not trying to make anyone feel bad, just sayin'.
TO DECADE: IF HE DOESN'T NEED THE MONEY, THEN DO CHARITY WORK FOR THE POOR -- NOT FOR THE RICHEST MAN IN THE WORLD: BEZOS. When one does this, they will respect you. When they assume, in this situation, he does. *He makes himself this no matter who he is.* It is tantamount to my living in the dubious hood when I have the money to live happily in a tranquil and peaceful house and neighborhood. For the experience? I'd rather love my life.
Stick it out at least thru holiday season..hahaha
Oh man. You think I should? Ahhhh so much work.
Do it I hear Amazon has really big warehouse!!!
I second the holiday season... it gives a completely different experience on working at Amazon during Peak vs non peak
I see a book deal in your future.. "That Time I Slummed it and the Lessons I Learned.."
Ha ha... the amount of information I get trying something new is enormous.
it already exsists its called "nickel and dimed" by barbara ehrenreich
BeatTheBush I would buy that book.
10:00 That's about right. Companies send trucks with goods to distribution centers where the goods get sorted by country. Then they are moved to harbors where they get shipped to the destination country. There they will be loaded on trucks again to another distribution center to sort them by region, so they can finally be delivered to the customers. There are stickers from the delivery company which mention things like the type of payment contract for delivery (like EXW for example which means that the supplier pays for the whole logistics process) and there are stickers from the supplying companies and distribution centres with content labels. Usually goods get unpacked, checked, storaged and repacked before they get distributed. That's why there are only 2-3 stickers on there at a time.
This is really cool, would like to hear more about your experience with coworkers once you go through it. I found that when I worked minimum wage jobs in college coworkers tend to be the complainer types as opposed to office jobs where people are more professional. Maybe talk about their mindsets differences.
I do have lots to talk about... =D I really can only talk about people rather than their process.
So what was your resume like?? "Masters degree in xxx engineering" or did you leave that out??
Left it out.
Hey are you sure making this video doesn´t violate your NDA?
Ha ha, yes.
Next video... I’m Getting Sued by Amazon...
The things ive learned so far in my current amazon sort center:
1- how to use a pallet jack
2- how to stack a pallet
3- how to entertain myself on the line
4- how to avoid people you dont like during shift xD
Also, i once walked 8+ miles in one 4hr shift yay....
Nice. It's a very good workout.
Taking on new jobs is humbling it takes you out of your comfort zone. it is interesting to see the behind the scenes of how ordering online products gets to your door. I have done work at UPS for a few months manual labor is challenging I think the robots are coming for more of those jobs!
We need more people like you. Too many people start off at an entry-level job and get stuck there. Needless to say that this is only hurting high school kiddos find proper jobs.
Because people are taking up all the entry-level jobs and not moving away so there is room for high school kids?
Cool. Not crazy at all. This is good for your mind and health since you are learning new things and moving around.
It's fun actually. But we'll see how fun doing the same thing over and over lasts.
Great experiment! As a cubicle dweller we often lose sight of the fact our efforts are actually productive given the chain is so long to reach an end consumer. I often miss the teenage years where I worked in service jobs (restaurants etc.) where it was clearer your efforts paid off immediately. With a wife, kids, mortgage etc. I cannot do this experiment myself but would love to participate. I am sure your engineering background will have you relay to your superiors various ways to improve the sorting process. Let us know how it works out!
Doubt that (in reference to the sorting process), unless the workers themselves are not placing items where Amazon's sorting algorithm tells them, then it should be nearly 100% efficient. Not saying he could not think of a sorting process, but unless he is a software engineer (like me) he would have to spend some time learning about sorting algorithms e.g. bucket, counting, merge, quick and about computational time (for the humans to place and find), stacks, priority stacks etc. If after all that he could construct an algorithm that has a better O(n) (how we measure the slowest a chuck of code will run e.g. O(nlogn)) then what Amazon's current team of engineers have spent the last what 15+ years improving, then he would most likely be one of the highest paid people in silicon valley and be hailed as one the smartest people ever, which he could be I'm just stating how crazy of a task that would be.
Having some feel for the end product is important. In that case, handling the package. =D Oh yes, I have so many ideas already. I think I cannot share the details but I can later say if I did relay something that was implemented.
Perfector: I can program. Back in school, I always made my programs run. One of the ones I liked is using a UDP protocol and converting it to TCP. That ran so well. =D
B.T.B., these experiences will be fantastic for you, I swear you're awesome. But honestly, the MOST stimulation you will receive from this is the physical exertion of the job and a nice "workout". You will find that these small-minded people and these menial routine jobs will BORE you... there will be little mental stimulation from the people in these environments and it could possibly depress you, until you quit and move on to the next gig. I think you're AMAZING for what you're doing, by challenging yourself and operating in a totally different construct. But take it from one that has had more jobs than the avg. American: these J-O-Bs will deflate you- not because of the job description or the company per se- but because, without these people knowing your financial background; education level and skill set, they will attempt to belittle you AND show you how very much beneath you they truly are. In this video, it sounds as if this is that part of the workplace that you've not been exposed to- the kind where formal education isn't a requirement for the job. As you said, this will be an eye opening experience and I hope you enjoy it all. Your sanguine-like nature will turn it into lessons learned all time, rather than obstacles. The absolute BEAUTY in your situation is that as soon as it irks you, you can walk out of that place and never return. Many people are enslaved to these places, as financial independence is not the position they are in, or may ever know. God Bless you B.T.B.!
It is already opening my mind about all this. And I'm surprised many people say the same thing about the belittlement part. I'm surprised and why I am doing it.
Very interesting perspective! I enjoyed watching this and learning your experience. Sub'd.
I worked for Amazons prime pantry. For being right out of highschool it's a decent paying job. I never was one who liked school. But seeing your videos makes me want to go to college and make somthing of myself
Now you know what poor people do.
Hard hard work.
Meh "hard" is subjective. I find "hard labour" much easier than sitting in a cubicle all day. Might be the ADHD.
Hahaa you remind me of an anime I watched called Golden Boy. Basically he is very very talented/smart and he dropped out of university...only after he sucessfully completed every course they offered 🤣 and he just goes travelling around on his bike applying to different jobs for a while to learn more
Haha now your in for real labor.I worked for UPS hard physically demanding. Give us an update..good luck
I worked at Amazon one holiday as a picker. In a 12 hour shift I think my fitbit counter over 15000 steps. I had bad knees and they were killing me after. Nope, I dont think ill work there again.
Will do. Hard labor? The packages are not really that heavy. Some are though. But I would think coal mining is hard-er labor.
Is it 1st of April today?
That was real.
I LOVED this - I esp appreciate your sensitivity in noticing the disregard/disrespect the employees were treated with. The cumulative effect of that could be significant over a lifetime and people need to realize that. I’m glad to hear you did not experience it in your work as an engineer - no one should! Thanks for sharing this cool story!
Thanks! I think this is helpful for those in the job currently and those in a cubicle job.
You are awesome
Thanks!
This is actually something I was thinking about doing if I ever won the lottery. Which I don't play anymore. But it seems pretty interesting to be a work tourist. As long as you don't care about how it looks on your job history.
Konrad Dobson Since he’s pretty much retired, I don’t think it matters that much.
So I guess I'm living the life of a lottery winner? I think a lotto winner might not even do this because they're too busy spending money.
I'm sure splurging get's old after a while unless you're one of many that goes bankrupt and massively into debt because they can't handle the sudden influx of cash :)
Interesting social experiment! I'm curious too what goes on with sorting facility.
Knowing first hand is a whole different story. Something I cannot convey nor share the specifics with everyone.
Scanners, barcodes, and yellow totes rule at Amazon.
Yes! I love your channel and perspectives. I just quit a corporate job to substitute teach. Just made a video about it.
how do you get medical insurance/care?
I just buy it outright with no employer subsidies.
Manager talking down their employees? That's a clear sign of bad management. I can tell you that none of the top managers will talk down to people. Only the jerks do. Proof: when asked with a question that they don't know the answer, they deflect it. "you don't need to know that." whereas good manager will say "good question. I don't know. Let's find out."
Regardless of how good you are or how good the company is, you won't have a career there. They'll use you as scapegoat for their mistakes. Don't stay too long. Leaving should be easy. Such places have high turnover rate. As long as you won't be suing them, they'll let you go easy.
It may be interesting to note the different turnover rate between your engineering job and this Amazon one. Just remember: it's not the job. It's the people!
Well.. the trainers only. The manager is fine so far.
BeatTheBush That's a good sign. Still, they shouldn't tolerate it. It will cause problem in the long run.
Some people have no option to turn down work. Even a crappy job if their kid will die of hunger and will be homeless if they do not put up with it
Yovani H. You mean, many managers are like that. It may surprise you that so many "managers" are really just workers with manager as job title. They still act as workers. There was a rush of managers training in the 80s. "Synergy" was the buzzword. Followed by large scale elimination of middle management positions. Presumably because those managers are found to be incompetent, once people know what good management entails.
Timothy Gibney I hope that there aren't many like that, but some industries are more susceptible to that. But really, it's not the job. It's the person. A good manager will train and take care of you properly. A bad one will derail your career pretty quick.
For example: EA spouse. those computer game workers, a dream job for some, were horrifically abused. They didn't last past a single project, and when they quit, they found out the hard way that they were considered "damaged goods" and nobody wants to hire them.
No matter what the industry, there are always good and bad players. Find good ones.
👍Have fun 🤪 This is a great experiment. 😁
=D
haha I really dig this move. Stay rad man :)
=D
Why are they paying for your time to walk through the parking lot from your car to you work?
The lot is much farther away in the 'overflow' lot.
Okay.
Don't you think if they used NFC on the orange bags it would be better so we wouldnt need to scan EVERY single one?
Never saw any orange bags.
what do you put all the boxes and envelopes in????? i work at at sorting facility for amazon in Orlando.
Next you need to drive a bulldozer or something.
That sounds fun actually. I think they have forklift lessons there.
There's a video of a guy picking up a penny with a forklift. You can aim for this if you decide to do it. XD
th-cam.com/video/RMoJQPsJR9M/w-d-xo.html
beat the 6 figure 👍👍
=D
I think it's disrespectful/abusive to the employer and possibly to other workers to get yourself hired with the intention of leaving after a week. Unless they know it and still want to hire you, of course.
I intended to work as long as I could or until I get bored.
Not when the employer is Amazon, I've worked at Amazon wharehouses and the position he has extremely high turnover. If he left tommorow no one would even notice.
The employer expects a certain percentage of new hired to quit or get fired. That's what always happens. It's not that personal. No respect given, no disrespect offered.
Just curious, but while you were doing your 'method acting' thing here, were you also limiting your intake based on your income of this job? Say, only using the money you are making from this job to pay for food, gas, bills, 'rent', etc?
Living the life as this worker is never my intention. I only wanted to take a peak.
Good for you, Francis! Years ago, I knew a co-worker who was an engineer, but decided to work at a pretty "mindless" warehouse job. He was so sick of bringing his work home with him, so he decided to find a punch-in and punch-out job and keep the work at the warehouse. He seemed like a really happy guy and relieved to be out of the stress. Your situation is a little different, but I'm glad you have the ability to choose what to do.
Ha ha.. yeah. It is a bit different since I only had the job for a week. =D