The movie Zero Dark Thirty accurately details the search for Bin Laden, the planning of the raid, & the execution of the plan by Navy Seals which resulted in Bin Laden’s death. Highly recommended by this US Navy veteran! Keep up the great work!
We’ve only got 2 versions of the story, the medias & the military’s (irl) both could be full of shit or there could be some truth in both of their stories. On top of that the US gov isn’t gonna release that classified info for a few decades, if ever. So maybe we’ll know if 50-100 years or if documents get leaked or a whistle blower, etc. but for now, the movie is ab as reliable as the media imo & the navy seals who said osama died I trust the most. Don’t really care how it happened as long as he’s dead (which I believe he is, unless the US recruited him for some reason, which I find highly unlikely but a possibility all the same, Zola from the MCU anybody? Operation paper clip? Highly unlikely but possible)
The point izzz that we could have taken out that Binnie Negro 4 Real, but what would happen!!!!! The war on 'terror would be finished " and then what!!!!!?????🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
I can remember exactly where I was, who I was with and when I first started watching the news and the planes hitting the towers live on tv. The youth today will never understand the world we lived in and how drastically and dramatically things changed.
Ohh we tortured the hell out of these men to get info out of them, there is a lot of videos out about all of that. Sorry about their luck, shouldn't of been doing that shit.
These two idiots call Osama a terrorist but remain silent about America killing millions of Muslims in the Middle East. F*ck you, we don't need soft Muslims.
i think its weird that congress claimed thise techniques didnt work yet we found bin laden by using brutal techniques. sometimes they do work, most times id say they will say anything to get them to stop doing something to them. but somehow it did work for these interrogations. as a human i want to say its wrong, as an american i say “f*ck em let em do what they want to them” i try to find a balance in it all but its hard. Rip Jefferey Song killed in suicide blast in afghanistan miss u forever
A childhood friend of mine and next door neighbor was a firefighter that went into the towers that day. His body was never found It was pulverized by the weight of the falling building on top of him.
It was because of two things that afghans warlords sided with the us, millions of dollar, and Osama assassinated the one guy who united all of the northern alliance, a guy named Ahmad Shah Massoud.
You guys should watch the movie Zero Dark Thirty and do a reaction to the movie. Hollywood did put. Their little spin on the movie, but a lot of the events in the movie are pretty accurate on how the CIA found Bin Laden
The technology is far superior today, than then. If you ever watched the Jason Borne movie, there's a quick scene where a reporter says the name operation Black Briar, then the phone call is captured, pops up on a NSA computer screen with red highlights and alert sounds. That is what is known as Echelon and it is programmed to listen for key words or triggering phrases, then it isolates and recovers the phone call, alerts an information gathering center, who directs the alert to whoever has authorization to scrutinize such conversations. This is just one of many things going on, that you didn't even know was being done to gather information on people who are believed to pose a threat.
Obama murdered hundreds of thousands of civilians in Yemen, much of whom were children. Children under 5 were especially impacted. They tended to die via starvation and dysentery. This is because they attacked hospitals, road networks which transported food, and water treatment facilities.
You two always brighten my day with your videos. I know it's not easy to make these and your hard work is greatly appreciated. Keep it up and I really hope you can make it to the U.S. one day. If you ever venture out to Vegas, let us know!
These two idiots call Osama a terrorist but remain silent about America killing millions of Muslims in the Middle East. F*ck you, we don't need soft Muslims.
They take all prisoners of that level yo Guantanamo Bay to "intertogate" which means they will di ANYTHING necessary to get the info they want. You should check out some Guantanamo Bay videos. Nicknamed Gitmo, it has held the highest level international prisoners for years now. Interesting content out there about it.
i watched a doc a couple months after 911 that i can no longer find, where a cia agent said he was minutes behind bl but the warlord he payed off turned on him and wouldnt allow him to pursue and was told to stand down by superiors...he was heading to Pakistan. i believe he was let go so we would have a bad guy loose to keep people occupied.
I worked for company called blackwater security who were hired by the US government to secure a lot of bases overseas, and it was heard through the grapevine that saudi intelligence in mossed would be brought in for the real intense interrogations.
The movie; "Zero Dark Thirty" gives you a glimps of "enhanced interrogation". In this case, I am all for use of this! We didn't rip out fingernails or put heads into a large bench vice, it was not like Englands famous "Tower of London" during the time of King Henry the Eighth.
They water boarded several of these guys they first arrested to get information. They water boarded the hell out of these guys. It feels like you're drowning when water boarded. Sometimes the FBI would keep torturing them for several days in a row, not allowing them to sleep.
the cia and fbi could have prevented the 9/11 attacks if they worked together and shared the valuable intel with each other. especially the cia were not fully transparent at that time! too much ego got in the way for the greater good..
Although not 100 percent accurate, the movie, "Zero Dark Thirty," goes into some of what it took to get the intel required to locate Bin Laden and eliminate him. Water boarding was used at the time. But, they got him, and probably saved countless lives.
It has been the experience of US intelligence that if you want real actionable intelligence torture doesn't usually work People will say anything to stop torture--true or not. What actually works is the long game of befreinding and building trust with people you're interrogating. But it can take a long time and the public is impatient. The fact it took us a decade to find OBL shows me we were more concerned with getting it right than getting even. Having said that, tortue did happen with some people we captured. Guantanamo Bay still holds people who have never been charged or tried in violation of the US Constitution and US law. They are isolated and some suspect it is because a trial would expose that the US and the West did indeed torture some Al Qaeda operatives captured in theatre. This would mean they would have to be let go if they were tried. So Congress pulled a fast one and gave jurisdiction to them under military tribunals which have fewer protections for their basic human rights as they are copnsidered prisoners of war--even thogh Congress never declared war on anyone after 9/11. As an American I'm ashamed we haven't let them go and that they were likely tortured in the first place. Obama tried to shut down Guantanamo but was convinced that they would have to be let go and that was something that would create a severe political backlash and create a severe national security risk. Many of the captives would have gone back to working against the US but some of these people have not seen their families in a quarter century and only have occasional access to their lawyers. The US got around it's own constitution by "rendering" some of the people they captured to other countries like Egypt where we then interrogated them under those countries' rules and allowed those countries to torture them. This allowed us to keep our hands clean diplomatically while engaging in activities that would otherwise not be acceptable. Not our proudest moment, but getting Bin Laden was a proud moment. And wars tend to bring out the best and worst in a country.
America is part of the "Geneva conventions". P.O.W.s (Prisioners of war) have rights under the U.N . These rights for the prisioners say they can not be, Tortured or go under medical experements. The POW only has to provide there name, rank, Date of birth, and military service number. There are rules under the geniva conventions for POWs.
Pow's and terrorists are not the same thing. There was no war involving the USA and Afghanistan before September 11th. It was a terrorist attack by civilians who were terrorists....so stop posting bs false information.
@@Navybrat64watch Scott Horton's Enough Already playlist and read the book. 9/11 was a retaliation against US foreign policy. They had been mass murdering civilians for decades.
2:32 - As someone who's been looking into the scriptures, debates, and arguments for several years, I'd like to respectfully disagree. I know there are peaceful Muslims who don't want that. But I don't think those Muslims have done much studying in their own scriptures.
Don't forget the word "enhanced." Gotta love how CIA and government wordsmith everything so we don't understand. Just look at a bill or a budget in Congress. It's a foreign language.
You guys should react to the movie “ZERO DARK THIRTY.” It goes through the CIA’s hunt for and Seal Team Six’s take down of him. It puts it in perspective.
Yes, unfortunately we committed many war crimes and brutal tactics, water boarding, etc. But.... Hey, it's war baby! And it's never a war crime the first time!
There have been some good movies about taking down Bin Laden. Zero Dark Thirty and SEAL Team Six were fairly stand out dramatizations. Accuracy is open for debate, but, in general, they were accurate enough.
There are other ways to coerce people to give up information, that does not require pain. See Josh Brolin in Siccario as a good example of what that might look like. Easy enough to say, their family members were not untouchable. And in 2004, the gloves were fully off. We were proper mad, yeah? Things were.... Intense. 😉
Remember how Russia tortured those two men from the terrorist organization and how their building was destroyed and set on fire? How do you suppose the CIA will handle a terrorist? Have you heard about the treatment of prisoners at Guantanamo Bay? I wouldn't want to be in the military as a POW in Japanese camps due to starvation and forced labor and torture and shit. People can be cruel.
At the time of 911 I was driving taxi cab in Tampa Florida. I picked up 2 guys from a travel agency that was run and owned by Arabs. I know bcuz I used their services once. There was one American working there as a book keeper. He's more than a book keeper you will find out later in this story. Back to the 2 guys I picked up. One was wearing a garment like a prince in Saudi Arabia, but he had light colored curly hair. The other was more mysterious so I took note of his face. Why? Bcuz every time I looked at him he would hide his face from me. It was Mohammed Ata, but I didn't know it at the time. I took them to pick up a rental car. This was 10-13 days before 911. So fast forward to 911. We're listening to what's happening in NYC on our taxicab radios. We suddenly had absolutely no business from the beginning of the attack for the next few days. I went home on 911 and watched everything in the news. Every channel was about the attack. Then they brought up the photos of the perpetrators. There he was and he was their leader, it was Ata one of the guys I picked up. I planned on telling the FBI that I picked him up at the travel agency. But I didn't want to be interrogated for days by the FBI. So instead of calling them on my phone I planned on calling from a pay phone where there was no cameras. However, the next morning as I drove past the travel agency the FBI and ATF were already there. They were carrying out computers, and many other things. The people that worked there were sitting on the ground wearing handcuffs. So I didn't bother calling the FBI bcuz they already knew they were involved obviously. So my buddy and I went over to the book keepers apartment to see if he knew what was going on at work. When we got there his door was wide open and it was like he never lived there. We believe he was under cover FBI or an informant for the FBI. We were freaked out.
9:43 Yes us Americans did more than just "interrogate" the people in question. If you look up Abu Graib you'll get an understanding of exactly what America was doing, and why there are a lot of feelings about the US that are entirely deserved.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abu_Ghraib_torture_and_prisoner_abuse
The movie Zero Dark Thirty accurately details the search for Bin Laden, the planning of the raid, & the execution of the plan by Navy Seals which resulted in Bin Laden’s death.
Highly recommended by this US Navy veteran! Keep up the great work!
We’ve only got 2 versions of the story, the medias & the military’s (irl) both could be full of shit or there could be some truth in both of their stories. On top of that the US gov isn’t gonna release that classified info for a few decades, if ever. So maybe we’ll know if 50-100 years or if documents get leaked or a whistle blower, etc. but for now, the movie is ab as reliable as the media imo & the navy seals who said osama died I trust the most. Don’t really care how it happened as long as he’s dead (which I believe he is, unless the US recruited him for some reason, which I find highly unlikely but a possibility all the same, Zola from the MCU anybody? Operation paper clip? Highly unlikely but possible)
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You trust hollywood?
The point izzz that we could have taken out that Binnie Negro 4 Real, but what would happen!!!!! The war on 'terror would be finished " and then what!!!!!?????🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
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I can remember exactly where I was, who I was with and when I first started watching the news and the planes hitting the towers live on tv. The youth today will never understand the world we lived in and how drastically and dramatically things changed.
Let me just say, I just love how yall just started the video right away and got to the point of reaction lol
Ohh we tortured the hell out of these men to get info out of them, there is a lot of videos out about all of that. Sorry about their luck, shouldn't of been doing that shit.
The terrorists had to be interrogated outside of the US so the terrorists wouldnt have a US Person (citizens and visitors) legal protection.
These two idiots call Osama a terrorist but remain silent about America killing millions of Muslims in the Middle East. F*ck you, we don't need soft Muslims.
Terörist is your country *itch
i think its weird that congress claimed thise techniques didnt work yet we found bin laden by using brutal techniques. sometimes they do work, most times id say they will say anything to get them to stop doing something to them. but somehow it did work for these interrogations. as a human i want to say its wrong, as an american i say “f*ck em let em do what they want to them” i try to find a balance in it all but its hard. Rip Jefferey Song killed in suicide blast in afghanistan miss u forever
"Interrogated" is a nice way to put it...
A childhood friend of mine and next door neighbor was a firefighter that went into the towers that day. His body was never found It was pulverized by the weight of the falling building on top of him.
It was because of two things that afghans warlords sided with the us, millions of dollar, and Osama assassinated the one guy who united all of the northern alliance, a guy named Ahmad Shah Massoud.
Water wasn’t to friendly to them
You guys should watch the movie Zero Dark Thirty and do a reaction to the movie. Hollywood did put. Their little spin on the movie, but a lot of the events in the movie are pretty accurate on how the CIA found Bin Laden
The technology is far superior today, than then.
If you ever watched the Jason Borne movie, there's a quick scene where a reporter says the name operation Black Briar, then the phone call is captured, pops up on a NSA computer screen with red highlights and alert sounds. That is what is known as Echelon and it is programmed to listen for key words or triggering phrases, then it isolates and recovers the phone call, alerts an information gathering center, who directs the alert to whoever has authorization to scrutinize such conversations.
This is just one of many things going on, that you didn't even know was being done to gather information on people who are believed to pose a threat.
the CIA does some serious interrogations such as torture. They do things like electrocution, beatings, etc...
Torture isn't a "serious interrogation." It's a war crime. Natzis were hung for the crime of torture.
A lot of little kids died in 9-11. The towers had daycare centers….
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Obama murdered hundreds of thousands of civilians in Yemen, much of whom were children. Children under 5 were especially impacted. They tended to die via starvation and dysentery. This is because they attacked hospitals, road networks which transported food, and water treatment facilities.
Do you know how many hundred thousand babies the USA killed before September 9 11 you spineless westerner?
They're probably thinking of the Oklahoma Bombing@@shawnanderson6313
Interrogation of suspected Al-Qaeda higher-ups involved such methods as waterboarding.
You two always brighten my day with your videos. I know it's not easy to make these and your hard work is greatly appreciated. Keep it up and I really hope you can make it to the U.S. one day. If you ever venture out to Vegas, let us know!
"Let's roll" -- Todd Beamer
I haven’t heard that in a while. Flight 93 if I remember. R.I.P.
Watch Zero Dark Thirty
Nice video. I always love your military content.
New U.S. sport called water boarding. Huge fan. FAFO.
Definitely watch " Zero Dark Thirty" movie.
watch movie Zero Dark Thirty
These two idiots call Osama a terrorist but remain silent about America killing millions of Muslims in the Middle East. F*ck you, we don't need soft Muslims.
Yesss
They take all prisoners of that level yo Guantanamo Bay to "intertogate" which means they will di ANYTHING necessary to get the info they want. You should check out some Guantanamo Bay videos. Nicknamed Gitmo, it has held the highest level international prisoners for years now. Interesting content out there about it.
Watch the movie "Zero Dark Thirty" to see how they got Bin-Laden. Excellent movie!
i watched a doc a couple months after 911 that i can no longer find, where a cia agent said he was minutes behind bl but the warlord he payed off turned on him and wouldnt allow him to pursue and was told to stand down by superiors...he was heading to Pakistan. i believe he was let go so we would have a bad guy loose to keep people occupied.
When he went to Pakistan the US had friendly relations with the country. So to enter the country and follow him. they wanted Pakistan's permission.
Absolutely true. President Bush approved of water boarding for info.
Y'all got part two to this?
I worked for company called blackwater security who were hired by the US government to secure a lot of bases overseas, and it was heard through the grapevine that saudi intelligence in mossed would be brought in for the real intense interrogations.
Watch Scott Horton's Enough Already playlist and read the book. It's incredible. It's a must read for vets and contractors such as yourself.
The movie; "Zero Dark Thirty" gives you a glimps of "enhanced interrogation". In this case, I am all for use of this! We didn't rip out fingernails or put heads into a large bench vice, it was not like Englands famous "Tower of London" during the time of King Henry the Eighth.
Zero Dark Thirty
It's not waterboarding if you use diesel 😂
They water boarded several of these guys they first arrested to get information. They water boarded the hell out of these guys. It feels like you're drowning when water boarded. Sometimes the FBI would keep torturing them for several days in a row, not allowing them to sleep.
yes
the cia and fbi could have prevented the 9/11 attacks if they worked together and shared the valuable intel with each other. especially the cia were not fully transparent at that time! too much ego got in the way for the greater good..
Guantanamo.
Skull and bones members bush and kerry
Although not 100 percent accurate, the movie, "Zero Dark Thirty," goes into some of what it took to get the intel required to locate Bin Laden and eliminate him. Water boarding was used at the time. But, they got him, and probably saved countless lives.
The US is intently listening for certain words and/or phrases flying through the air waves.
It has been the experience of US intelligence that if you want real actionable intelligence torture doesn't usually work People will say anything to stop torture--true or not. What actually works is the long game of befreinding and building trust with people you're interrogating. But it can take a long time and the public is impatient. The fact it took us a decade to find OBL shows me we were more concerned with getting it right than getting even.
Having said that, tortue did happen with some people we captured. Guantanamo Bay still holds people who have never been charged or tried in violation of the US Constitution and US law. They are isolated and some suspect it is because a trial would expose that the US and the West did indeed torture some Al Qaeda operatives captured in theatre. This would mean they would have to be let go if they were tried. So Congress pulled a fast one and gave jurisdiction to them under military tribunals which have fewer protections for their basic human rights as they are copnsidered prisoners of war--even thogh Congress never declared war on anyone after 9/11.
As an American I'm ashamed we haven't let them go and that they were likely tortured in the first place. Obama tried to shut down Guantanamo but was convinced that they would have to be let go and that was something that would create a severe political backlash and create a severe national security risk. Many of the captives would have gone back to working against the US but some of these people have not seen their families in a quarter century and only have occasional access to their lawyers.
The US got around it's own constitution by "rendering" some of the people they captured to other countries like Egypt where we then interrogated them under those countries' rules and allowed those countries to torture them. This allowed us to keep our hands clean diplomatically while engaging in activities that would otherwise not be acceptable. Not our proudest moment, but getting Bin Laden was a proud moment. And wars tend to bring out the best and worst in a country.
Skull and bones members
Oh god do part 2 i hate waiting like that 😮
Watch zero Dark Thirty
America is part of the "Geneva conventions". P.O.W.s (Prisioners of war) have rights under the U.N . These rights for the prisioners say they can not be, Tortured or go under medical experements. The POW only has to provide there name, rank, Date of birth, and military service number. There are rules under the geniva conventions for POWs.
Pow's and terrorists are not the same thing. There was no war involving the USA and Afghanistan before September 11th. It was a terrorist attack by civilians who were terrorists....so stop posting bs false information.
@@Navybrat64watch Scott Horton's Enough Already playlist and read the book. 9/11 was a retaliation against US foreign policy. They had been mass murdering civilians for decades.
2:32 - As someone who's been looking into the scriptures, debates, and arguments for several years, I'd like to respectfully disagree.
I know there are peaceful Muslims who don't want that. But I don't think those Muslims have done much studying in their own scriptures.
A frightening number of people who support torture have appeared in the comments.
Cool story 😎. Where's the evidence?
Get a Top Secret Clearance then you can lmao
Lol how the cia found him? George jr said hey buddy we are having a BBQ. Where are you?
Obama was president when they caught him. Not Bush.
Back then and probably still today, interrogation=water boarding 😂❤😂
Don't forget the word "enhanced." Gotta love how CIA and government wordsmith everything so we don't understand. Just look at a bill or a budget in Congress. It's a foreign language.
You guys should react to the movie “ZERO DARK THIRTY.” It goes through the CIA’s hunt for and Seal Team Six’s take down of him. It puts it in perspective.
Yes, unfortunately we committed many war crimes and brutal tactics, water boarding, etc. But.... Hey, it's war baby! And it's never a war crime the first time!
And a case like this there is no links they won't go to to get the information You won't know about it but there is no limit
Today they can listen to your conversation inside your home through your phone. Even if you remove the battery.
There have been some good movies about taking down Bin Laden. Zero Dark Thirty and SEAL Team Six were fairly stand out dramatizations. Accuracy is open for debate, but, in general, they were accurate enough.
Please send out a notification when you do part 2.
There are other ways to coerce people to give up information, that does not require pain.
See Josh Brolin in Siccario as a good example of what that might look like. Easy enough to say, their family members were not untouchable.
And in 2004, the gloves were fully off. We were proper mad, yeah?
Things were.... Intense. 😉
Watch “Zero Dark 30”.
Absolutely..death by 1000 cuts
Check guantamo bay interrogations..allegedly lol..love ya guys ..South Florida!
"Zero Dark Thirty" is a really good movie about the untold female CIA agent, whom we can largely thank for the capture of Bin laden.
Good God. Did y’all read the Wikipedia entry of OBL pinned to this video? How disgusting is that?
My advise is watch the movie "Zero Dark Thirty" tells the same story more or less.
I mean no creepiness, but your girl is a very beautiful woman. Both of you are such a beautiful couple.
America's resolve is long. Regardless if it takes twenty or forty years we don't forget and debts must be paid.
Remember how Russia tortured those two men from the terrorist organization and how their building was destroyed and set on fire? How do you suppose the CIA will handle a terrorist? Have you heard about the treatment of prisoners at Guantanamo Bay? I wouldn't want to be in the military as a POW in Japanese camps due to starvation and forced labor and torture and shit. People can be cruel.
Don’t test American resolve.
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Watch Scott Horton's Enough Already playlist and read the book
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At the time of 911 I was driving taxi cab in Tampa Florida. I picked up 2 guys from a travel agency that was run and owned by Arabs. I know bcuz I used their services once. There was one American working there as a book keeper. He's more than a book keeper you will find out later in this story. Back to the 2 guys I picked up. One was wearing a garment like a prince in Saudi Arabia, but he had light colored curly hair. The other was more mysterious so I took note of his face. Why? Bcuz every time I looked at him he would hide his face from me. It was Mohammed Ata, but I didn't know it at the time. I took them to pick up a rental car. This was 10-13 days before 911. So fast forward to 911. We're listening to what's happening in NYC on our taxicab radios. We suddenly had absolutely no business from the beginning of the attack for the next few days. I went home on 911 and watched everything in the news. Every channel was about the attack. Then they brought up the photos of the perpetrators. There he was and he was their leader, it was Ata one of the guys I picked up. I planned on telling the FBI that I picked him up at the travel agency. But I didn't want to be interrogated for days by the FBI. So instead of calling them on my phone I planned on calling from a pay phone where there was no cameras. However, the next morning as I drove past the travel agency the FBI and ATF were already there. They were carrying out computers, and many other things. The people that worked there were sitting on the ground wearing handcuffs. So I didn't bother calling the FBI bcuz they already knew they were involved obviously. So my buddy and I went over to the book keepers apartment to see if he knew what was going on at work. When we got there his door was wide open and it was like he never lived there. We believe he was under cover FBI or an informant for the FBI. We were freaked out.
Watch Scott Horton's Enough Already playlist and read the book. It's incredible. Scott was a taxi driver for years.
Water boarding and testicle electricity fersure
9:43
Yes us Americans did more than just "interrogate" the people in question. If you look up Abu Graib you'll get an understanding of exactly what America was doing, and why there are a lot of feelings about the US that are entirely deserved.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abu_Ghraib_torture_and_prisoner_abuse