The American so called justice system is terrifying. How could they have put a man who was innocent til PROVEN guilty in solitary for 13 months? How could he then go to a court and be judged guilty on NO proven evidence at all? Very very scary and feels like a completely unsafe conviction in which the jury were not given all possibilities for else could have done this. It was a total travesty of justice in my view.
We should all be afraid that a person in Indiana was arrested on questionable evidence, sent to prison, tortured until he confessed and went mad then gets convicted by twelve fellow Hoosiers. This whole case is so sad and disturbing on all sides and Indiana should be ashamed they didn't serve those precious girls.
How twelve people can collectively agree to convict one man of these types of crimes on virtually NO evidence is frightening. They better be right, or they just set the real killer(s) free.
The opposite could also be said. If they set him free when there is reason to believe he did these murders it would be an injustice and he would get away with it.
Criminals typically: lie, deny, deflect, like a narcissist/psychopath does, automatically. So when Richard Allen told police, first interview, that he was there between 12.00 and 1:30 p.m. he’s putting himself outside of the girls’ time frame. Then on the second interview he says that he was there between 1:30 and 3:30 because of needing to deal with the camera filming his vehicle and eye witnesses seeing him. He tells them that he was wearing what bridge guy was wearing but that he is not the image on the girls’ cell phone. He tells them that he was sitting on the bridge, looking at fish, so he puts himself there, in the time frame that the girls would be there, but he denies seeing the girls or the bridge guy. That, alone, criminal lying, is compelling evidence. That’s how people were caught, back in the day, before forensic evidence.
That’s really well said. I don’t know why these people that think he’s innocent not see that ? I have from the start. Most compelling was his wife said right in front of law enforcement “ you said you were on the trail that day and you said you weren’t on the bridge ?” I’m surprised his wife is still acting like he didn’t do it ? I think when people see the gun had to be fired to get the markings , then they think “ not guilty !” Or they think there HAS to be DNA ? Or they think there HAD to be more people involved ? If someone had a gun pointed at those girls they would have been terrified. Maybe even faint ! He probably racked his gun to scare them (losing a bullet ) ? That’s a chilling sound ! Neither one of them wanted to get killed or do something that could get the other one killed. I would freeze if someone pointed a gun at me. I would move very slow and cautious hoping to live or eventually be able to run. Anyway , very well said.
You've got it turned around. He told LE (DNR OFFICER Dan Dulin) he was on the bridge from 1:30 to 3:30. Jump ahead to his police interview October 2022 he changed his times. He told LE he was at the high Bridge from 12:00 to 1:30. Changed his alibi October 2022, not putting himself in the area at the time of crime.
@@stephanie8327 Reasonable does not mean possible doubt. Anything could be possible. But through using reason, you narrow down all those possibilities. The jury took all the information and narrowed it down to Allen being guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. You just think that any sort of doubt possible means he's not guilty.
i really hope that there’s something big that the jury knows that we don’t know, because i REALLY thought they’d have a not guilty verdict due to reasonable doubt. this is scary.
Ashamed of your so call "justice system", whether you believe he did it or not, it was not proven without a reasonable doubt and every citizen should be scare of the miscarriage of "justice" because this could be you or someone you love next. Again, not saying he's innocent, but the DA did not prove this case and the whole mystery around it made it be not fair for RA.
@cutemeg66 of course he should, there is absolutely no evidence against him, he was only convicted because he "confessed" after been in solitary for 13 months, he also confess to killing his grandchildren, Guess what? He doesn't have any! But the corrupt judge didn't allow any of the most important evidence. No DNA of him on the girls, no motive, no connection, nothing. So You're telling me this 50 some years old man woke up one day and said, umm today feels like a good day to kidnapped, get naked, cut their throat and scape in 19 mins kinda day...yeah right.
@madmattdigs9518 had the judge allowed cameras we would be able to make a more accurate assessment, maybe the jury saw more,who knows and that is a huge issue. The secrecy, the hiding...I would not live with myself if I chose guilty.
They just picked a random man, and convicted him without any evidence. I'm glad this innocent man was convicted. May he rot in prison for what he didn't do.
If he was guilty like he said he was when sick in prison..surely he would have then said that when it got to court. I think they were emotionally and psychologically torturing him into confessing.. There was NO real evidence that he did this at all. The man or men who did this must be elated that an innocent man has gone down for the crime..
What is terrifying is that there are people like you out there that must have not paid attention at all during this long trial or maybe you are just a big dummy and struggle putting multiple things / evidence all together. IDK 🤷🏻♂️. Question for you. If you go to a friend’s house or need something at a store do you drive or does a parent drive you?
@@stevewhitener4903As someone who studied criminology and forensic psychology I am very surprised by this verdict. It’s not that I think he is definitely innocent but I also feel there was too much “reasonable doubt” for him to get a guilty verdict. I am not from the USA but there does seem to be a huge disparity in what they feel is reasonable doubt or not. I am not 100% sure either way whether he was one of the people involved but I do believe the real killers (I 100% believe it’s more than one!) are still out there.
A question for Katie. When can the appeal of the judgment take place? Who decides where that hearing will be held and will the next trial be televised?
Immediately can appeal and it’ll go through the state courts and also the federal courts depending on if it’s a life sentence or a death penalty sentence. Unless there’s something significant that comes along it’ll take anywhere up to 20+ years if he’s innocent to prove it!!! We see ppl everyday getting released after decades of being falsely accused.. not saying he is or isn’t but that’s the process.
I wouldn’t trust a single thing coming from an un-rehabilitated person who has 13 months in solitary confinement. Coherent or not, that is a broken man. The confession is coherent but coerced.
how did 12 people decide he was guilty beyond a reasonable doubt??? There is SOOOOO much doubt... I agree with the comment below saying release the evidence so the true crime community can find out what happened to those girls.
@@mistersinister2043 I agree with you. The true crime community really F’d up. They have treated this family and the victims horribly, and had nothing but sympathy for the killer. The true crime community doesn’t deserve anything. It should be left up to the family given the behavior of the “true crime community” and I’m overwhelmingly disappointed in them. 😢 Glad Abby and Libby got their justice today.
He voluntarily admitted he was on the bridge that day. It was when this was discovered years later that he THEN became the prime suspect. I still don’t understand his motive but I haven’t seen all your coverage on the trial. Did he have a history of severe mental illness, had he ever been violent towards anyone before, had he researched crimes like this online? Yes, it’s obviously apparent that his confessions sealed the deal.
Nothing about this man indicates him as guilty. Quite the opposite. He was railroaded and not allowed to get a defense. Corrupt officials did this. Corrupt judge. Withholding evidence., it’s wrong
This HAS to be one of the least safe convictions ever … The jury were denied any other options than that it was Richard Allen. I hope he appeals the conviction as I don’t believe it was proven that he did it at all …
He definitely did it, but to be fair there was a lot of reasonable doubt. I guess they convicted him by the process of elimination. He didnt see BG when everyone else there saw him, so it has to be him.
All convicted criminals found guilty of M, get an automatic appeal. But, his own admissions of being on the bridge, bd being with the girls when he was Spooked by the white van places him, and only him, with the girls when he abducted them and M them.
With all that reasonable doubt, they still convicted him ? Jury was biased af and idgaf what no one says. How do u convict someone without evidence is beyond me.
I don't think he did it. My heart goes out to the families of all and the jury. I had no idea they didnt get to see the sketches. How will they feel when they see the evidence the judge would not allow them to see?
@erikawana9021 The sketches were drawn from eyewitness. They don't look like RA. The video could be him. However, none of the eyewitness said bridge guy IS RA.
@andreadefazio3907 don't talk to me like I'm an idiot I watched all the coverage of the evidence if you don't believe he was mentally incompetent which negates any confession I know I wouldn't want you on a jury.im sure he wasn't eating his own crap to convince a jury
Do you think he was eating his own excrement for attention or to fake a mental issue? Mental issues as he had have in the past been proven to be false confessions
@andreadefazio3907 yes he confessed. He said and did all kinds of crazy things. He even "confessed" to molesting his daughter and sister and to killing his grandchildren. According to his daughter and sister, those things never happened. He also doesn't even have any grandchildren. He was out of his head because he was drugged and kept in solitary. If any of us were in the same situation there's no telling what we would say and do.
@LisaLoo212 I can't tell you all of the corruption and lies that have gone on and been told but if you have to ask why, you should certainly delve deep into it.
THIS IS TERRIBLE IF I HAD BEEN ON THAT JUREY I WOULD HAVE FOUND HIM NOT GUILTY BECAUSE OF LACK OF EVIDENCE I WOULD HAVE A REASONABLE DOUBT OF COURSE THE JUREY FOUND MIM GUILTY BECAUSE THEY DON'T WANT TO FACE THE REPERCUSSIONS OF THE PUBLIC THAT THOUGHT HE WAS GUILTY HIS BLOOD WILL BE ON THEIR HANDS
There’s several of them in Delphi area. This was connected to the Flora fire case and they have covered up the truth. There will be more deaths in Delphi.
My heart is so broken. I can’t watch this or read comments cause I’m too broken. How the jury could find him guilty is a shame. Every person should be terrified cause it could be you that gets convicted on absolutely no actual evidence. Libby and Abby some of us will never give up finding your murderers.
I don't know if he did it or not but I do know the State didn't prove it beyond a reasonable doubt. This is very disturbing to a lot of people and will certainly stop people from calling in tips involving themselves.
@@andreadefazio3907unfortunately a huge amount of people falsely confess to crimes. It is way more common than people realise. I used to say “I’d never confess to something I didn’t do!” Until I studied it and realised the psychology involved in it all.
Allen's testimony at police station, early on, and his description of what he wore, would have alerted me to believe he was BG. I didn't need his confessions.
What? A blue jacket? I have one. So do billions of people.. Not one of the witnesses described him as short or recognised him from that day.. why do you think that was? What proof was there he had done it? I feel there was little to none and he is likely a scapegoat as people are desperate for justice for these girls..but convicting the wrong man, isn’t justice. I watched intently every day of this trial..and nothing was-riven whatsoever..
Yeah. Go look up Brad Holder (Abby's boyfriend's dad) on a Google search and tell me you still feel the same way. He matches the description far better.... Oh and he wears that same golf hat as in the sketch in several of those pictures as well. He was questioned and let go. And that's the bare minimum. This is evidence the jury wasn't allowed to hear.
@@helenjones2791 he also confessed to the murder... to his FAMILY! Also you didn't get to hear the phone calls and all evidence like the jurors did, so our assumptions are just that, assumptions with the little facts we have. Jurors seen all unfiltered.
If he had not put himself at the scene that day, likely he would’ve gotten away with it. There is also plenty of circumstantial evidence against him. I did earlier not believe all the evidence against him but as the trial went on, I do believe now they tried the right person. However that doesn’t mean I don’t pray for all of the families involved in this tragedy. Also for healing in the community. The law enforcement agencies who were involved need to improve their investigations especially with handling a serious violent crime like this one.
Richard Allen: “Ma, I wouldn’t just sit here and say I did it if I didn’t do it.” Any person posting a single comment in support of this man or his innocence is against justice for Abby and Libby.
Rest in peace Libby and Abby. I hope Cathy and Brittany, and Allen's mom, peace and find comfort with their loved ones. This is tragic for all family's impacted. I am happy and sad at the same time.
I’m praying for everyone too and that eventually they will PROVE who did this, but they haven’t yet. Richard Allen needs to appeal his very unsafe conviction.
This is not justice. It's all you people that watched the news and did zero research saying that. The killer is still walking around. But hey, as long as someone's paying the price that's good enough huh?
I agree..there was so little evidence to prove he did this. We cannot count the ‘confessions’ because he also admitted to other things he hadn’t done. The gun cartridge was not even proven to be definitely from his gun. Not one witness identified him or described how short he is..There was SO much evidence that leaned towards them having the wrong man. X
@@susanfisher4944where was the proof? No witnesses recognised him or described him as so short..The cartridge wasn’t proven to even be from his gun. What proof was there that he did this?
@@amiblind1325 Finally justice for Libby and Abby! The killer got locked up! Indiana jury saw ALL the evidence and didn’t let bleeding hearts sway them! So happy I cheered!
Corrupt judge and corrupt system. I would never move to Indiana. So much information and facts were withheld from the jury. I hope they come out when they do the research telling us how they really feel then.
Indiana is very corrupt! This guilty verdict takes the cake! I am going to sale my house and leave this State at 64 years old! I trust no one of the law! I wouldn’t even call the tip line!
As someone who studied criminology and psychological studies I watched a huge amount of coverage on this case (from when it happened until now) and this was the best, non-biased coverage that there was so well done to your team! I’m from the UK and I do find this justice system insane as I would actually have bet my house on it being a not guilty as there was so much reasonable doubt so I am in shock to say the least. That being said, there are many innocent people in the prison system or on death row. I firmly believe there was more than one person involved. Is it possible Richard Allen was one of them? Yes I believe it’s possible but I also believe there was too much reasonable doubt for a conviction. My gut feeling is that it wasn’t him though. I feel the true killers are currently laughing and celebrating. Here’s hoping they don’t take this as a green light to do the same again.
But it was never proven that Bridge guy was Richard Allen.. In fact none of the witnesses identified him or even described him as being short… I think this is one the most unsafe convictionsI’ve ever heard.
@@izabela1961 Amen !! I Agree And Believe, Libby Caught Her Killer ..I Trust God And Many We're Praying And I Asked God If RA Was In Fact The Killer To Not Let Him Walk Free... And God Did Exactly That.
Rest In Peace 💙💜💙💜Abigail "Abby" Joyce Williams (June 23, 2003 - February 13, 2017) and Liberty "Libby" Rose Lynn German (December 27, 2002 - February 13, 2017)
To go out a wee adventure for the day and end up coming across someone who decides to watch and calculate to do what this person did takes a lot of thinking......
I'd seriously hoped for a hung jury here and a fairer, more transparent, retrial b4 a different Judge (And w cameras in court). I also want to see the FULL video Libby took! Why only the 3 second loop?? I blieve it's 30+ seconds long!? You can't undo the pre-trial treatment. That should never have happened - and this is why! How do you trust confessions that only came after that?? I don't understand how a she'll casing was on scene when the girls were not shot. I'm don't understand how they can say it's from his gun if they couldn't rule it out of being from their first suspects gun at that time!?? Nor do I know how an unfired round can be matched to any gun!? The van was talked about online long b4 RA brought it up, so there was, in fact, nothing in his 'confessions' that we all didn't know (if you were following closely). NO DNA at all. On him. On them. And two VERY diff eyewitness descriptions: age/hair/height/build etc. I just don't like this - and, honestly, would not have been 'happy' w either verdict. Hence why I was so hoping the jury would NOT come to a unanimous decision either way. This needed much more than the prosecution had. Maybe a 'redo' could've made a diff. I dunno - but this isn't how the system is supposed to work!
Richard didn't tell Kathy he was at the bridge that day, and I wonder if she knew he gave testimony to police that he was there that day. I feel the jurors got it right. For those religious groups, that are either disappointed or relieved with the verdict, you must tell yourselves, that if you believe that this was God's Will, you have to accept the verdict.
I didn’t tell my wife me and another guy took electric scooters to Jersey Mikes at lunch today where I got an amazing giant Philly for only $22 and that’s why I’m not hungry for dinner. I believe it was reported that she knew and encouraged him to self report being there that day. Everything with this case has been super secret for the last 7 years so who knows if that’s actually true or not.
Go look up Brad Holder. Abby's boyfriend's dad. The hat from the sketch, and the one bridge guy wears sits on his head in several of the pictures that come up. And that's not even the most compelling aspect. The court paperwork i have pretty much tells the tale. It's public record. Go do your own research. You'll be disgusted.
@@shanaynay333I'll look that up. The unspent round is what gets me. "Conclusively matched"... when compared to a FIRED round. If conclusively matched, WHY could they NOT exclude the other guy's gun?
TODAY IS THE DAY!!!I As I stand crying in my kitchen in Minnesota I feel immense relief learning that these beautiful young ladies and their families can finally, finally, FINALLY get justice! Nothing brings them back but at least the unspeakably horrific murder of Abby and Libby will not go unavenged, this monster will never be able to hurt another child. The families and community can finally take a full breath. Tonight, we are ALL Delphi! PTL!! 💜💜
I did pretty much the same...I prayed to God To o Expose The Truth...I Asked God To Not Let This Man Walked Free If RA Committed This Crime of These To Precious Children
How can you believe he did this when there was NO PROOF that he did? If you watched every day of this trial, you would realise that, and that the jury were deprived of a whole week’s worth of evidence that put forward other reasonable possibilities and suspects..
I am so glad that justice will be served! Was watching from France. Justice for Abby and Libby will be finally served, 7 years later. Better late than never. The culprit will not be able to do that again. They should have investigated his wife too
The bullet ,his car,the white van . Cases like that are usually sexually motivated so for me when he confessed that he wanted to assault them but was spooked by the white van was very strong evidence against him and made sense .
@fredrickriffel5845 And I wonder how pissed the jury is going to be when they find out they convicted a man and weren't allowed to hear ALL the evidence.
We all have our opinion, but as for the jury they used the testimony and evidence provided to make a decision beyond a reasonable doubt. Weather individuals like it or not, Richard Allen and his current defense team have the option of filing an appeal.
PEACE? Goodness gracious you country folks are naive. They're not going to have peace any time soon. Even if this case will be overturned on the very first appeal (which it will) - had the investigation & trial been lawful and thorough, you'd have a guilty man sentenced to death. Therefore, the families would be dragged into court, year after year, for the next 30 years. All their time consumed with attending hearings regarding killing someone for killing their daughters. Death Penalty means the victim's families never get to move on, are never allowed the opportunity to heal, never allowed chancenity to rebuild, and their lives are consumed with thinking about thge man who killed thier children. You, people, celebrate winning your witch trial when it ends, but 2 girls are dead, all these lives have been changed forever. And you stop paying attention and get to move on with your own life. I got bad news for all of you who never went to college. This verdict will be overturned because law enforcement, the court and DA couldn't convict Riochard Allen without rigging the trial. All that does is victimize the families even more - and people like you mnove onto the next witch hunt.
These comments . I pray for the families, not RA. I hope they find some sort of peace and can deal with the public saying he wasn't guilty . I could only imagine the grief . I have experienced death by never by homicide .
@@noneyun9943they didn’t prove the van was even definitely there at that time.. They tried to fit whatever they could to what were incredibly unbelievable ‘confessions’ as he also confessed to other things he didn’t do..and was in a state of being psychologically tortured at the time. Apart from the supposed van sighting and gun cartridge that could have come from any one of a number of guns..what did they have on him? Not enough to PROVE he did it !
Ladies..i know this is very late, and random..but , due to the date, of this comment and the recent developments in this case..if youve been analyzing this whole thing up until now.. IDK, but i really get alot of, female version of another, "Matthew Shepard" vibe, and situation with all of this..Really💯. .When you analyze the documented cultural history of these particular towns.. .I think thats really why everyone whose been caring about this is feeling the same thing, but just cant seem to pinpoint what it is. .Yea..Its sad. Justice for Abby and Libby🙏😢
Don't misconstrue the tears of Allen's family. They didn't protest his innocence when he was arrested. Maybe they are relieved of the verdict. Kathy doesn't have to bring him home, and worry about her safety. He is quilty, and she might move out of Delphi to avoid public scrutiny. I wouldn't blame her.
I don't think his family thinks he is guilty-- to be honest, I'm not so sure he's guilty either. This has got to be one of the most corrupt forces and investigations of the past 50 years in the USA.
@@Cece-dad17 I believe it was likely multiple people, 2 or more. I'm more inclined to believe that the Klines did it than RA. RA's "confessions" convinced me that he is most likely not guilty. No guilty person says "I think I did it??" as a confession during a psychotic break.
@@Cece-dad17I see only one person on the bridge going towards the girls.One person captured on the video and one person voice telling them to go down the hill!Justice was served today!Rip Abby and Libby!!
@ no one ever identified him you know, not one witness said ‘yeh that’s the guy I saw’ The police as of 2023, thought there were two people involved in the killings. It’s a mess. It’s not justice for the girls.
Hopeful an appeal occurs so that RA gets a fair trial away from Delphi LE and Gull. I’m a Hoosier, btw… The case was mishandled I terms of not testing the hair samples in the girls’ hands, not interviewing Libby’s mom, not properly investigating (and allowing for the defense to present these findings) EF, BH, Ron Logan, Keagan K., and SE. The timing of crime with phone data, the erratic phone data (pinging at 4a), Abby’s clean hands, the open area of the crime scene (not remote), the staged appearance of the girls vs covered in leaves, etc. There is definitely grounds for reasonable doubt. Humbly accertion: this case needs taken further away from Delphi with additional Defense assistance (eg Andrea Burkhart). If guilty, he most likely did not act alone.
The American so called justice system is terrifying. How could they have put a man who was innocent til PROVEN guilty in solitary for 13 months? How could he then go to a court and be judged guilty on NO proven evidence at all? Very very scary and feels like a completely unsafe conviction in which the jury were not given all possibilities for else could have done this. It was a total travesty of justice in my view.
Totally agree,
Your opinion doesn't matter. All the evidence pointed to his guilt.
60+ confessions when one would suffice…
He only confessed 61 times.....I believe you, Richard 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 18 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61x
@@Noname-v2w5wAmen
We should all be afraid that a person in Indiana was arrested on questionable evidence, sent to prison, tortured until he confessed and went mad then gets convicted by twelve fellow Hoosiers. This whole case is so sad and disturbing on all sides and Indiana should be ashamed they didn't serve those precious girls.
@jadedspades bye bye bleedin heart!
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@@jadedspades GET OVER IT! Glad he is locked up! Another killer off the streets!!
@@imcurious1009 Yes! Tired of those liberal tears! 😭
This is not justice. Far too much reasonable doubt and simply not a fair or transparent trial.
Who cares what you think. Richard Allen can act crazy all he wants in prison for the rest of his life.
I agree way to much reasonable doubt.
@@Topquark13A lot of people care.
Richard Allen won't live long enough to even get to his appeal. They will make sure of it. That judge should be in prison
I thought the State made a very weak case. It's scary as hell you can be convicted on so little evidence.
How twelve people can collectively agree to convict one man of these types of crimes on virtually NO evidence is frightening.
They better be right, or they just set the real killer(s) free.
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The opposite could also be said. If they set him free when there is reason to believe he did these murders it would be an injustice and he would get away with it.
@@cutemeg66
What is the reason to believe?
Thank you?
@@judithvasiiiyeva9484His confessions are a major reason for me to believe.
He only confessed 61 times.....I believe you, Richard 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 18 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61x
Criminals typically: lie, deny, deflect, like a narcissist/psychopath does, automatically. So when Richard Allen told police, first interview, that he was there between 12.00 and 1:30 p.m. he’s putting himself outside of the girls’ time frame. Then on the second interview he says that he was there between 1:30 and 3:30 because of needing to deal with the camera filming his vehicle and eye witnesses seeing him. He tells them that he was wearing what bridge guy was wearing but that he is not the image on the girls’ cell phone. He tells them that he was sitting on the bridge, looking at fish, so he puts himself there, in the time frame that the girls would be there, but he denies seeing the girls or the bridge guy. That, alone, criminal lying, is compelling evidence. That’s how people were caught, back in the day, before forensic evidence.
That’s really well said. I don’t know why these people that think he’s innocent not see that ? I have from the start. Most compelling was his wife said right in front of law enforcement “ you said you were on the trail that day and you said you weren’t on the bridge ?” I’m surprised his wife is still acting like he didn’t do it ? I think when people see the gun had to be fired to get the markings , then they think “ not guilty !” Or they think there HAS to be DNA ? Or they think there HAD to be more people involved ? If someone had a gun pointed at those girls they would have been terrified. Maybe even faint ! He probably racked his gun to scare them (losing a bullet ) ? That’s a chilling sound ! Neither one of them wanted to get killed or do something that could get the other one killed. I would freeze if someone pointed a gun at me. I would move very slow and cautious hoping to live or eventually be able to run. Anyway , very well said.
@@bonnielee7134 that second interview was 5 years later. Do you remember the exact time of something you did 5 years ago? I certainly don't!
You've got it turned around. He told LE (DNR OFFICER Dan Dulin) he was on the bridge from 1:30 to 3:30.
Jump ahead to his police interview October 2022 he changed his times.
He told LE he was at the high Bridge from 12:00 to 1:30.
Changed his alibi October 2022, not putting himself in the area at the time of crime.
@@ladycici1364oh, I'm sure that day is carved into his mind pretty deep! I'm going to say he's been shaking in his boots every day since.
@Red4banger you would be too wether you did it or not.
Do jurors truly understand what reasonable doubt means? This is scary AF
Reasonable doubt does not mean no doubt
Do you know what reasonable means?
@@mistersinister2043 lol do you know what reasonable doubt means? 🥴
@ yea…. Exactly
@@stephanie8327 Reasonable does not mean possible doubt.
Anything could be possible. But through using reason, you narrow down all those possibilities.
The jury took all the information and narrowed it down to Allen being guilty beyond a reasonable doubt.
You just think that any sort of doubt possible means he's not guilty.
i really hope that there’s something big that the jury knows that we don’t know, because i REALLY thought they’d have a not guilty verdict due to reasonable doubt. this is scary.
My thoughts exactly 💯
@@fairybandiit tbh you really don’t know much and are simply an outside observer.
I’ve been following this case from the U.K. I’m shocked at the verdict I thought there was a lot reasonable doubt
Well I'm sure that's why the verdict took so long. Usually when a case is obvious one way or the other, the jury might take an hour or 2.
Ashamed of your so call "justice system", whether you believe he did it or not, it was not proven without a reasonable doubt and every citizen should be scare of the miscarriage of "justice" because this could be you or someone you love next. Again, not saying he's innocent, but the DA did not prove this case and the whole mystery around it made it be not fair for RA.
So he should be set free?
@cutemeg66 of course he should, there is absolutely no evidence against him, he was only convicted because he "confessed" after been in solitary for 13 months, he also confess to killing his grandchildren, Guess what? He doesn't have any! But the corrupt judge didn't allow any of the most important evidence. No DNA of him on the girls, no motive, no connection, nothing. So You're telling me this 50 some years old man woke up one day and said, umm today feels like a good day to kidnapped, get naked, cut their throat and scape in 19 mins kinda day...yeah right.
I agree. I think he probably is guilty, for several reasons, but the case was not proven beyond a reasonable doubt. It’s unfortunate…
@madmattdigs9518 had the judge allowed cameras we would be able to make a more accurate assessment, maybe the jury saw more,who knows and that is a huge issue. The secrecy, the hiding...I would not live with myself if I chose guilty.
@@nallelygrisellbenitezrosar248same here!
This is actual insanity. This man was held unlawfully in solitary confinement and went crazy. There’s no proof he did it!
I agree with you. But a mob pressure should not have been allowed to influence this case. There is a complicity here that ONE day will be discovered.
They just picked a random man, and convicted him without any evidence. I'm glad this innocent man was convicted. May he rot in prison for what he didn't do.
What? The justice system isn’t on trial here Lol
Cute you bought the fake psychosis act RAs lawyer told him to pull after he started confessing. 😅
Call me crazy but maybe (maybe) it was the 60 confessions
👍, and what a great job you did by reporting, and showing your own emotions. Once again thank you from 🇸🇪
I don’t care if you think this man is guilty or not, he did not get a fair trial
Im with you.
No way, he did have more than a Fair Trial. He had 3 experienced attorneys and that community spent 4 million on this pos
100% fair trial. But you're just a fan of a child killer so why would we care what hate you post online?
@pelleoh yeah and your just so Lazy to really investigate you let Child killers GO. Why?
If he was guilty like he said he was when sick in prison..surely he would have then said that when it got to court. I think they were emotionally and psychologically torturing him into confessing.. There was NO real evidence that he did this at all. The man or men who did this must be elated that an innocent man has gone down for the crime..
If they wanted a fall guy, they would’ve pinned it on Ron Logan. Think harder-Richard Allen did this.
Exactly
@sloop5141 same
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@@sloop5141Amen
This is truly horrifying. Not a single piece of actual evidence links him to the case. This should terrify every person in America.
LOTS of evidence links him. Did you miss the entire trial??
What?! Lol
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What is terrifying is that there are people like you out there that must have not paid attention at all during this long trial or maybe you are just a big dummy and struggle putting multiple things / evidence all together. IDK 🤷🏻♂️. Question for you. If you go to a friend’s house or need something at a store do you drive or does a parent drive you?
@@stevewhitener4903As someone who studied criminology and forensic psychology I am very surprised by this verdict. It’s not that I think he is definitely innocent but I also feel there was too much “reasonable doubt” for him to get a guilty verdict. I am not from the USA but there does seem to be a huge disparity in what they feel is reasonable doubt or not. I am not 100% sure either way whether he was one of the people involved but I do believe the real killers (I 100% believe it’s more than one!) are still out there.
A question for Katie. When can the appeal of the judgment take place? Who decides where that hearing will be held and will the next trial be televised?
Immediately can appeal and it’ll go through the state courts and also the federal courts depending on if it’s a life sentence or a death penalty sentence. Unless there’s something significant that comes along it’ll take anywhere up to 20+ years if he’s innocent to prove it!!! We see ppl everyday getting released after decades of being falsely accused.. not saying he is or isn’t but that’s the process.
Yes These Are The Questions Of Many
He might not make it to appeal. The world sees how wrong this it yet NOTHING is being done to stop this corruption. Evil sleeps like a baby.
@@Harnesk36 and will it be the same judge?
@@kptyler5lots of time! A lot more taxpayer money! The jury got it right, guilty as charged. 🍻🎉👏🤜🤛
I feel like Judge Gull has blood on her hands. A man was denied a truly public trial and a chance to mount a full defense.
Sounds like Dallas 1963
He had every chance to present evidence. He had nothing linking Odinism or any other individuals to the crime. The appeal is going to go nowhere.
@mistersinister2043 He was specifically blocked from presenting the third party theory. It's like he had to fight with his hands tied behind his back!
@@dakotacoren6936 There wasn't enough evidence presented. They can try to present it again, watch as it will be thrown out for the same reason.
YOU and all other domestic terrorists have blood on YOUR hands! You want a child killer to be freed and just that makes you EVIL!
I wouldn’t trust a single thing coming from an un-rehabilitated person who has 13 months in solitary confinement. Coherent or not, that is a broken man. The confession is coherent but coerced.
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how did 12 people decide he was guilty beyond a reasonable doubt??? There is SOOOOO much doubt... I agree with the comment below saying release the evidence so the true crime community can find out what happened to those girls.
Release all of that evidence so the true crime community can figure out what exactly happened.
You've all done nothing but muddy the waters and create a toxic environment for the victims and anyone trying to solve the crime.
@@mistersinister2043 I agree with you. The true crime community really F’d up. They have treated this family and the victims horribly, and had nothing but sympathy for the killer. The true crime community doesn’t deserve anything.
It should be left up to the family given the behavior of the “true crime community” and I’m overwhelmingly disappointed in them. 😢
Glad Abby and Libby got their justice today.
You're talking about the sick and vile domestic terrorists who call themselves things they're not.
I am honestly so surprised. There seemed to be enough reasonable doubt, I realize we don’t have all the info but I was so sure he would walk.
yall not that bright and did not pay full attention to everything. LOL
He voluntarily admitted he was on the bridge that day. It was when this was discovered years later that he THEN became the prime suspect. I still don’t understand his motive but I haven’t seen all your coverage on the trial. Did he have a history of severe mental illness, had he ever been violent towards anyone before, had he researched crimes like this online? Yes, it’s obviously apparent that his confessions sealed the deal.
Nothing about this man indicates him as guilty. Quite the opposite. He was railroaded and not allowed to get a defense. Corrupt officials did this. Corrupt judge. Withholding evidence., it’s wrong
Small towns are particularly frightening to be judged by "your peers." Maybe they saw something i didn't but wow 😳
Ya no way the guy who confessed 60x, was on the bridge, and looks like bridge guy was the killer. Found the genius, guys
@@ponzo1967 children of the corn level "justice".
This is a disgrace! Today is not the day. Those men still walk among us.
Who are those men 😂
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This is NOT justice!
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This HAS to be one of the least safe convictions ever … The jury were denied any other options than that it was Richard Allen. I hope he appeals the conviction as I don’t believe it was proven that he did it at all …
That’s UK language, “Safe”. Or Australia. The jury disagreed.
He definitely did it, but to be fair there was a lot of reasonable doubt. I guess they convicted him by the process of elimination. He didnt see BG when everyone else there saw him, so it has to be him.
This will keep people from coming forward in the future if they are in the area of a crime.
I've seen some very weak cases put people behind bars, it's frightening.
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@@ponzo1967 the killer confessed multiple times and described things only the killer would know such as method of killing and what actually happened.
GUILTY GUILTY GUILTY AND GUILTY
I dont agree - and i watched your recaps daily - i am so disappointed - in the justice system
He needs to appeal and the new judge needs to allow all evidence to be heard on other possible suspects..
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I hope he files an appeal ASAP.
There's a website already in operation and has crashed from the people concerned!!!
All convicted criminals found guilty of M, get an automatic appeal. But, his own admissions of being on the bridge, bd being with the girls when he was Spooked by the white van places him, and only him, with the girls when he abducted them and M them.
Wow... terrifying. There was no evidence.
….no evidence except for the entire trial, of course…
Are you new to this trial?
Maybe it was the 60 confessions…
@@andreadefazio3907If those are false confessions, they aren't confessions.
@@olgakipke3720so confessions are just considered false? Since when?
My condolences to all of Abby and Libby families and friends, may God comfort them always. 🩵💜🩵💜🩵💜🩵💜🩵💜🩵💜🩵💜
Amen
Not justice in America , only scapegoats
Who did it then? Facts?
This man was not fit to stand trial.
With all that reasonable doubt, they still convicted him ? Jury was biased af and idgaf what no one says. How do u convict someone without evidence is beyond me.
If i were on the jury i would never forgive myself for saying guilty. Especially after reading all the bs in this case
If they ever see what wasn't allowed in, they'll be shocked.
Key fact..YOU WERE NOT ON THE JURY
I don't think he did it. My heart goes out to the families of all and the jury. I had no idea they didnt get to see the sketches. How will they feel when they see the evidence the judge would not allow them to see?
Why show sketches that never look like waht your explaining when you have pics and video of THE guy???????????????? Duh draw yyou a map maybe.
@erikawana9021 The sketches were drawn from eyewitness. They don't look like RA. The video could be him. However, none of the eyewitness said bridge guy IS RA.
What’s wrong with you
@@molliwilson5639 Nothing.
He didn’t do this. There is literally NO EVIDENCE
💯
Were you on the jury?
Were you on the jury?
Im actually shocked . Too much reasonable doubt
So the 60 confessions not lessen your doubt?
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@andreadefazio3907 don't talk to me like I'm an idiot I watched all the coverage of the evidence if you don't believe he was mentally incompetent which negates any confession I know I wouldn't want you on a jury.im sure he wasn't eating his own crap to convince a jury
Were you there at the trial?
Do you think he was eating his own excrement for attention or to fake a mental issue? Mental issues as he had have in the past been proven to be false confessions
This is not justice for anyone! Someone needs to investigate Delphi PD, ISP and Fran Gull.
Why?
Maybe, just maybe, he shouldn’t have confessed 60 times. What do I know though
@@ladycici1364 the media should be investigating how other pre trial detainees are treated. We need real journalism on this whole situation.
@andreadefazio3907 yes he confessed. He said and did all kinds of crazy things. He even "confessed" to molesting his daughter and sister and to killing his grandchildren. According to his daughter and sister, those things never happened. He also doesn't even have any grandchildren. He was out of his head because he was drugged and kept in solitary. If any of us were in the same situation there's no telling what we would say and do.
@LisaLoo212 I can't tell you all of the corruption and lies that have gone on and been told but if you have to ask why, you should certainly delve deep into it.
I really don’t think he did this !
Ya
Because you have some common sense and probably did your own research as well. This is disgusting and we should all be terrified.
Grow up
There was SO MUCH reasonable doubt!!!
But also alot of common sense coincidences.............
NOPE
Keep your nose clean, wrong place wrong time now your in jail for life
Wrong place at right time surely
Someone watches too much TV
THIS IS TERRIBLE IF I HAD BEEN ON THAT JUREY I WOULD HAVE FOUND HIM NOT GUILTY BECAUSE OF LACK OF EVIDENCE
I WOULD HAVE A REASONABLE DOUBT
OF COURSE THE JUREY FOUND MIM GUILTY BECAUSE THEY DON'T WANT TO FACE THE REPERCUSSIONS OF THE PUBLIC THAT THOUGHT HE WAS GUILTY
HIS BLOOD WILL BE ON THEIR HANDS
What a travesty of Justice!
Great to see totally unbiased reporting on this case...well done guys
The jurors are going to be furious when they find out the didn't get to hear all the evidence! such as geofencing...
There might be just a murderer walking free...
Murderers and they have satanic links to odenites. This is so wrong.
There’s several of them in Delphi area. This was connected to the Flora fire case and they have covered up the truth. There will be more deaths in Delphi.
You did it together with Richard Allen? That's the only way, you know..
The real monster is still out there,
Perhaps…Monsters
Is it you ?
@@molliwilson5639 maybe it's you ????
My heart is so broken. I can’t watch this or read comments cause I’m too broken. How the jury could find him guilty is a shame. Every person should be terrified cause it could be you that gets convicted on absolutely no actual evidence. Libby and Abby some of us will never give up finding your murderers.
Your community is crazy. What’s wrong with you?
He clearly didn't do this!!! this is truly a huge miscarriage of justice. The evidence is bull!
Maybe (just maybe) it was his 60 confessions
I don't know if he did it or not but I do know the State didn't prove it beyond a reasonable doubt. This is very disturbing to a lot of people and will certainly stop people from calling in tips involving themselves.
@@andreadefazio3907unfortunately a huge amount of people falsely confess to crimes. It is way more common than people realise. I used to say “I’d never confess to something I didn’t do!” Until I studied it and realised the psychology involved in it all.
Allen's testimony at police station, early on, and his description of what he wore, would have alerted me to believe he was BG. I didn't need his confessions.
What? A blue jacket? I have one. So do billions of people.. Not one of the witnesses described him as short or recognised him from that day.. why do you think that was? What proof was there he had done it? I feel there was little to none and he is likely a scapegoat as people are desperate for justice for these girls..but convicting the wrong man, isn’t justice. I watched intently every day of this trial..and nothing was-riven whatsoever..
Yeah. Go look up Brad Holder (Abby's boyfriend's dad) on a Google search and tell me you still feel the same way. He matches the description far better.... Oh and he wears that same golf hat as in the sketch in several of those pictures as well. He was questioned and let go. And that's the bare minimum. This is evidence the jury wasn't allowed to hear.
@@helenjones2791 he was wearing what bridge guy was and has same build
@@helenjones2791 he also confessed to the murder... to his FAMILY! Also you didn't get to hear the phone calls and all evidence like the jurors did, so our assumptions are just that, assumptions with the little facts we have. Jurors seen all unfiltered.
@@shanaynay333 that is not evidence.
If he had not put himself at the scene that day, likely he would’ve gotten away with it. There is also plenty of circumstantial evidence against him. I did earlier not believe all the evidence against him but as the trial went on, I do believe now they tried the right person. However that doesn’t mean I don’t pray for all of the families involved in this tragedy. Also for healing in the community. The law enforcement agencies who were involved need to improve their investigations especially with handling a serious violent crime like this one.
Richard Allen: “Ma, I wouldn’t just sit here and say I did it if I didn’t do it.”
Any person posting a single comment in support of this man or his innocence is against justice for Abby and Libby.
Guilty with no concrete evidence or DNA? 😮😮
Rest in peace Libby and Abby. I hope Cathy and Brittany, and Allen's mom, peace and find comfort with their loved ones. This is tragic for all family's impacted.
I am happy and sad at the same time.
I agree. Praying 🙏🏼 for all of the families involved. Also for the community to heal. ❤💜💙
I’m praying for everyone too and that eventually they will PROVE who did this, but they haven’t yet. Richard Allen needs to appeal his very unsafe conviction.
Most importantly, God bless the Victims and THEIR families
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Justice has prevailed!!! RIP Abby & Libby. 🙏🙏🙏
This is not justice. It's all you people that watched the news and did zero research saying that. The killer is still walking around. But hey, as long as someone's paying the price that's good enough huh?
Those girls went there to meet somebody and there's 0 evidence it was RA.
they just sent another inncent man to prison!! no Justice here.
Maybe he shouldn’t have confessed
They've been doing it for years we're just becoming aware of it. How do you think the state got so good at this? Practice.
Never ending corruption💔
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I really didn’t think he did this
I am sincerely interested, why do you believe he did not do it?
I agree..there was so little evidence to prove he did this. We cannot count the ‘confessions’ because he also admitted to other things he hadn’t done. The gun cartridge was not even proven to be definitely from his gun. Not one witness identified him or described how short he is..There was SO much evidence that leaned towards them having the wrong man. X
@@susanfisher4944where was the proof? No witnesses recognised him or described him as so short..The cartridge wasn’t proven to even be from his gun. What proof was there that he did this?
The jury were not given any other options other than Allen. My gut feeling is that the culprit or culprits are still out there and free..
Where is the evidence for that theory, where is his alibi, why did he confess to stuff only LE knew.. early on?
Best coverage
Thoroughly agree.
Yes, excellent coverage.
I'm so sorry to Richard Allen and his family for this trash of a trial and to those girls who have NO JUSTICE
We just got it! So proud of this jury! Took a killer off the streets! Justice done! He was seen on the phone! Glad the jury didn’t buy his crapola!
Good jury! The community of Delphi GOT IT RIGHT
@ Yrs they did! I saw his picture walking and it was over for me! They got it right! 😊
@@amiblind1325 Finally justice for Libby and Abby! The killer got locked up! Indiana jury saw ALL the evidence and didn’t let bleeding hearts sway them! So happy I cheered!
Corrupt judge and corrupt system. I would never move to Indiana. So much information and facts were withheld from the jury. I hope they come out when they do the research telling us how they really feel then.
I am in shock, there was enough reasonable doubt in this case that it was right in your face.
Indiana is very corrupt! This guilty verdict takes the cake! I am going to sale my house and leave this State at 64 years old! I trust no one of the law! I wouldn’t even call the tip line!
It is a small small town- don't judge Indiana by just that. they made several goof ups. no dna
I mean dude admitted to it 61 times. It was his bullet from his gun.
Exactly!!! Jury was never given all the information. Hopefully the person who did this doesn’t do it again!
As someone who studied criminology and psychological studies I watched a huge amount of coverage on this case (from when it happened until now) and this was the best, non-biased coverage that there was so well done to your team! I’m from the UK and I do find this justice system insane as I would actually have bet my house on it being a not guilty as there was so much reasonable doubt so I am in shock to say the least. That being said, there are many innocent people in the prison system or on death row. I firmly believe there was more than one person involved. Is it possible Richard Allen was one of them? Yes I believe it’s possible but I also believe there was too much reasonable doubt for a conviction. My gut feeling is that it wasn’t him though. I feel the true killers are currently laughing and celebrating. Here’s hoping they don’t take this as a green light to do the same again.
Libby caught her killer!
Innocent
But it was never proven that Bridge guy was Richard Allen.. In fact none of the witnesses identified him or even described him as being short… I think this is one the most unsafe convictionsI’ve ever heard.
@Marcuswelby-nx2te You are right. She was innocent. Go and hug your hero behind bars 😂
@helenjones2791 No. It was Santa Claus.
@@izabela1961 Amen !! I Agree And Believe, Libby Caught Her Killer ..I Trust God And Many We're Praying And I Asked God If RA Was In Fact The Killer To Not Let Him Walk Free... And God Did Exactly That.
Rest In Peace 💙💜💙💜Abigail "Abby" Joyce Williams (June 23, 2003 - February 13, 2017) and Liberty "Libby" Rose Lynn German (December 27, 2002 - February 13, 2017)
They will never be able to rest because they know their killers are still out there free
The jury made the right decision! Justice for Abby and Libby!
Where was the proof he did this? I watched every single day and heard not one bit of proof…
Not at all!
@@helenjones2791 you were in the courtroom every day??
Id say the video of RA being bridge guy would be a pretty good start Helen.....@helenjones2791
I certainly hope so but I have reasonable doubt like thousands of others. A very weak case from the State.
To go out a wee adventure for the day and end up coming across someone who decides to watch and calculate to do what this person did takes a lot of thinking......
I'd seriously hoped for a hung jury here and a fairer, more transparent, retrial b4 a different Judge (And w cameras in court). I also want to see the FULL video Libby took! Why only the 3 second loop?? I blieve it's 30+ seconds long!?
You can't undo the pre-trial treatment. That should never have happened - and this is why! How do you trust confessions that only came after that?? I don't understand how a she'll casing was on scene when the girls were not shot. I'm don't understand how they can say it's from his gun if they couldn't rule it out of being from their first suspects gun at that time!??
Nor do I know how an unfired round can be matched to any gun!? The van was talked about online long b4 RA brought it up, so there was, in fact, nothing in his 'confessions' that we all didn't know (if you were following closely). NO DNA at all. On him. On them. And two VERY diff eyewitness descriptions: age/hair/height/build etc.
I just don't like this - and, honestly, would not have been 'happy' w either verdict. Hence why I was so hoping the jury would NOT come to a unanimous decision either way. This needed much more than the prosecution had. Maybe a 'redo' could've made a diff. I dunno - but this isn't how the system is supposed to work!
Wrong verdict
Is this RA wife or relative?
This was ABSOLUTELY justice for Abby & Libby! Richard Allen is GUILTY!!!!
Richard didn't tell Kathy he was at the bridge that day, and I wonder if she knew he gave testimony to police that he was there that day. I feel the jurors got it right.
For those religious groups, that are either disappointed or relieved with the verdict, you must tell yourselves, that if you believe that this was God's Will, you have to accept the verdict.
I didn’t tell my wife me and another guy took electric scooters to Jersey Mikes at lunch today where I got an amazing giant Philly for only $22 and that’s why I’m not hungry for dinner.
I believe it was reported that she knew and encouraged him to self report being there that day. Everything with this case has been super secret for the last 7 years so who knows if that’s actually true or not.
Innocent man how sad. And I feel so bad for parents too.
Why do you believe he is innocent?
Go look up Brad Holder. Abby's boyfriend's dad. The hat from the sketch, and the one bridge guy wears sits on his head in several of the pictures that come up. And that's not even the most compelling aspect. The court paperwork i have pretty much tells the tale. It's public record. Go do your own research. You'll be disgusted.
@@shanaynay333I'll look that up. The unspent round is what gets me. "Conclusively matched"... when compared to a FIRED round. If conclusively matched, WHY could they NOT exclude the other guy's gun?
@@shanaynay333why the fk would her bfs dad want to kill her and her friend? Stop chatting sht
Wow. Those poor young girls. Peace to their families.
Detective⚖️ Libby and Abby finally got JUSTICE, thank you JURY
TODAY IS THE DAY!!!I As I stand crying in my kitchen in Minnesota I feel immense relief learning that these beautiful young ladies and their families can finally, finally, FINALLY get justice! Nothing brings them back but at least the unspeakably horrific murder of Abby and Libby will not go unavenged, this monster will never be able to hurt another child. The families and community can finally take a full breath.
Tonight, we are ALL Delphi! PTL!! 💜💜
I did pretty much the same...I prayed to God To o Expose The Truth...I Asked God To Not Let This Man Walked Free If RA Committed This Crime of These To Precious Children
How can you believe he did this when there was NO PROOF that he did? If you watched every day of this trial, you would realise that, and that the jury were deprived of a whole week’s worth of evidence that put forward other reasonable possibilities and suspects..
I don't see how when the real killers are still out there!
I am so glad that justice will be served! Was watching from France. Justice for Abby and Libby will be finally served, 7 years later. Better late than never. The culprit will not be able to do that again. They should have investigated his wife too
Excellent reporting!!! Incredibly touching to see real emotions and caring!!! Justice for Libby and Abby ❤
What a travesty. I hope he gets a retrial.
What was the evidence that brought the guilty verdict? I have watched WTHR every day and never heard any real evidence...
There IS no evidence against him.
The bullet ,his car,the white van . Cases like that are usually sexually motivated so for me when he confessed that he wanted to assault them but was spooked by the white van was very strong evidence against him and made sense .
What were you watching? Cos I heard loads
Go back and research 7years of investigation, plenty on yt that never gave up on this case,justice has been served.
@fredrickriffel5845 And I wonder how pissed the jury is going to be when they find out they convicted a man and weren't allowed to hear ALL the evidence.
Yeah I don't feel good about him being found guilty. They didn't have any direct evidence saying that this man 100% did this.
I sincerely believe he did it. Prayers for all the families.
Justice isn't spitting on due process.
Odinism on rise
When more little girls are killed because you have all allowed an innocent man to burn while the killer is still free
He confessed over and over again
OK.. we will all gather at your house and wait.. 😂
What an injustice.
We all have our opinion, but as for the jury they used the testimony and evidence provided to make a decision beyond a reasonable doubt. Weather individuals like it or not, Richard Allen and his current defense team have the option of filing an appeal.
If that was true they would have said not guilty. No evidence.
Thank God Justice for these girls.
100 % ❤
Doubtful
Is justice the jury not being able to hear all of the other facts and things that were withheld? Bs.
It's not justice if they convicted the wrong person
INJUSTICE
Finally justice for these babies ❤ may their family get some peace ❤❤
Nope It wasn't Justice for anyone
It's not justice if they convicted the wrong person
PEACE? Goodness gracious you country folks are naive. They're not going to have peace any time soon.
Even if this case will be overturned on the very first appeal (which it will) - had the investigation & trial been lawful and thorough, you'd have a guilty man sentenced to death. Therefore, the families would be dragged into court, year after year, for the next 30 years. All their time consumed with attending hearings regarding killing someone for killing their daughters.
Death Penalty means the victim's families never get to move on, are never allowed the opportunity to heal, never allowed chancenity to rebuild, and their lives are consumed with thinking about thge man who killed thier children.
You, people, celebrate winning your witch trial when it ends, but 2 girls are dead, all these lives have been changed forever. And you stop paying attention and get to move on with your own life.
I got bad news for all of you who never went to college. This verdict will be overturned because law enforcement, the court and DA couldn't convict Riochard Allen without rigging the trial. All that does is victimize the families even more - and people like you mnove onto the next witch hunt.
There’s no justice when they didn’t get the right person. More people were involved.
Miscarriage of Justice
Truly want to know, why do you deel thus way?
Is anything gonna shut you bleedin hearts up?
Maybe he shouldn’t have confessed…
@andreadefazio3907 or maybe he shouldn't have murdered 2 babies
Thay made mistake soo sad 😔 sorry Abby and libby you dident get justice but you well at the end when GOD punishes the right ones 🫂
These comments . I pray for the families, not RA. I hope they find some sort of peace and can deal with the public saying he wasn't guilty . I could only imagine the grief . I have experienced death by never by homicide .
I'm so happy, i was honestly thinking he was going to get off because how screwed up the case was. I'm glad the jurors seen through the garbage
What proof was there that was beyond reasonable doubt…
@@helenjones2791he knew about the white van going by when the cops didn’t even know
Hes happy 4 convicting an innocent man and not bringin justice 4 the girls...😂
@@noneyun9943they didn’t prove the van was even definitely there at that time.. They tried to fit whatever they could to what were incredibly unbelievable ‘confessions’ as he also confessed to other things he didn’t do..and was in a state of being psychologically tortured at the time. Apart from the supposed van sighting and gun cartridge that could have come from any one of a number of guns..what did they have on him? Not enough to PROVE he did it !
Justice has been served.
Guilty. Such a sin he did…
YEP
Ladies..i know this is very late, and random..but , due to the date, of this comment and the recent developments in this case..if youve been analyzing this whole thing up until now.. IDK, but i really get alot of, female version of another, "Matthew Shepard" vibe, and situation with all of this..Really💯. .When you analyze the documented cultural history of these particular towns.. .I think thats really why everyone whose been caring about this is feeling the same thing, but just cant seem to pinpoint what it is. .Yea..Its sad.
Justice for Abby and Libby🙏😢
Never go to Indiana.
We don’t want liberals here anyways.
No, DO go there ! So many people are willing to stand up for a murderer
How can anyone of them sleep after killing an innocent man!!!!
Don't misconstrue the tears of Allen's family. They didn't protest his innocence when he was arrested. Maybe they are relieved of the verdict. Kathy doesn't have to bring him home, and worry about her safety. He is quilty, and she might move out of Delphi to avoid public scrutiny. I wouldn't blame her.
I don't think his family thinks he is guilty-- to be honest, I'm not so sure he's guilty either. This has got to be one of the most corrupt forces and investigations of the past 50 years in the USA.
Just curious, why do you think the police said up until 2023, they thought two people had done it?
@@Cece-dad17 I believe it was likely multiple people, 2 or more. I'm more inclined to believe that the Klines did it than RA. RA's "confessions" convinced me that he is most likely not guilty. No guilty person says "I think I did it??" as a confession during a psychotic break.
@@Cece-dad17I see only one person on the bridge going towards the girls.One person captured on the video and one person voice telling them to go down the hill!Justice was served today!Rip Abby and Libby!!
@ no one ever identified him you know, not one witness said ‘yeh that’s the guy I saw’
The police as of 2023, thought there were two people involved in the killings.
It’s a mess. It’s not justice for the girls.
Hopeful an appeal occurs so that RA gets a fair trial away from Delphi LE and Gull. I’m a Hoosier, btw…
The case was mishandled I terms of not testing the hair samples in the girls’ hands, not interviewing Libby’s mom, not properly investigating (and allowing for the defense to present these findings) EF, BH, Ron Logan, Keagan K., and SE. The timing of crime with phone data, the erratic phone data (pinging at 4a), Abby’s clean hands, the open area of the crime scene (not remote), the staged appearance of the girls vs covered in leaves, etc. There is definitely grounds for reasonable doubt.
Humbly accertion: this case needs taken further away from Delphi with additional Defense assistance (eg Andrea Burkhart). If guilty, he most likely did not act alone.