Same here, a vet who grew up in Elkins WV, but living in Butler County, Ohio. Using my self built cherokee style hickory bow. I recently found your video on 3rivers snakeskin backing. It was a great help! Thanks for posting! Thank y'all for your service!
I think you will as long as you don't have a really long draw... So I've heard. I don't have a long draw so I'm not sure but that's what I hear. But I do love mine. It's very fast. Enjoy and shoot straight!
@@BACKWOODSVET I'm around 30-31. I'm looking into a 70 inch hill style long bow in a couple months. I've always had an issue with bows stacking on me and I think the 70 inch would solve that. I'm going to have it custom made so hopefully it'll be built to accommodate my draw length. Keep up the great work on your videos and I appreciate you responding to me. 👍👍
@robcarr8505 yeah that is a long draw. Almost unheard of in the trad world. Your a gorilla. Lol. But yeah that 70" longbow sounds like it'll be good for for you but you never know. I've heard some guys that love the supermag48 and that thing stacks like crazy to me. It's all personal preference. And thanks for watching the videos. Keep me updated on the bows and let me know how they all work out for you. I'm curious.
Nice bow, might have to get one for myself. Just shopping around for now. Making a transition from a crossbow to a more traditional way of hunting. Nice video. Thumbs up...
Thank you and I appreciate that. If this is going to be your first traditional bow then I'd honestly go with the longer Mesa longbow. It will be more forgiving and easier to shoot and just as fast. Welcome to traditional archery. If you ever have any questions just ask. Most important thing is to have fun and know it's a journey and everyone is different.
As far as my set up is, it's not bad. I've had some longbows that are bad. I'm shooting a pretty heavy arrow and have a good string and silencers. So that does help. I've also added a second pair of silencers since this video so 4 in total and it is amazing.
No lots of trad guys do. Most hunting arrows for trad guys are around 9 to 10 grains per pound or more. But 500 grains is a good sweet spot for compounds too. My compound arrows are around that weight too
I watched a year ago and waited 1 year for you to get comments. No comments on your snap shooting ( which is fine and must be intentional) You must be huge if your draw is 27 in the video because it looks like your short drawing. Im big but haveT-rex arms and draw 26" back to my jaw bone where I expand 1/2 inch to get the most I can. My intent is not to be critical just these things jumped out at me. That honestly absolutely has to be the best buy out there. Looks just like my Striker Classic but half the money.
Yeah if I do a full draw to the corner of my mouth and fully extend I'm almost 28.5 29". I do short draw alot and prolly don't even get the full 27" most times. I don't care though honestly. Yeah I've been a snap shooter most my life. I've tried to slow it down but just doesn't work as well for me. I also have never had a coach so I'm sure that would help too. I just have fun. Yeah the bow is a sweet shooter but I wouldn't even try it if you have a Stryker. I'm sure that's nicer.
Jeff Kavanagh was a proponent of snap shooting. I loved Jeff's video's. It's required for foul hunting. OMM is cut 1/16 before center Stryker are cut center. Helps a lot with wider range of arrow tuning. I changed from glove split to Tab 3 under after 50 years. Took me 6 months of regression but was worth the effort. Change is very hard.@@BACKWOODSVET
Appreciate the video bud. Looking to upgrade to a better and faster longbow from my Fleetwood D style one I got now. I been looking at this bow for awhile. But wasn't sure if it was worth the money or not
I have one D style longbow. I shot a good buck last year in the shoulder with it. It's not a fast bow but D style longbows are so quiet. Longbows all have something good to offer.
@@BACKWOODSVET I agree completely. I've had people tell me they hat D style because of hand shock. But I don't have much shock out of mine. And mines a cheap $150 bow
@@Hillbillyhoss96 yeah mine isn't an expensive one either. Mine is the mountain man from OMP and I really like it alot too. Quietest bow I've ever shot.
@@BACKWOODSVET Always on the hunt for good shooting bow. Lots of good shooting lower price bows that get over looked out there. Glad to see former Navy guys like myself with the fever.
I've been on the waiting list for about 13 months for a big jim custom bow. I'm supposed to be in the next batch for building so that'll be nice. I'll have to do a video.
There are some great budget bows. I've been shooting budget bows for over 20 years. I've had a few expensive ones here and their but some of the 200$ bows are just shooters!
Love that bow, would have one if they made the 60 when I was looking. I went with the mesa II but Im loving it. Ill either get that bow or their new recurve. Have fun bud love the bow
1) heavy arrows are the best way to increase KE for hunting penitration 2) Some bows really clatter with light arrows 3)forward FOC adds stability. 4) reduces handshock. These are the 4 main reasons in order most consider important. I prefer a lighter arrow and manage those issues other ways.
Slick Sticks has a small grip. My hands are not near as large as BV bearpaws are, and my Slick Stick crowds my grip. Slick Stick rattles like nunchucks with a light arrow ( under 425 gn). The newer models are a lot more stable with the action wood riser than the solid walnut but are not as light. Its a fast, very attractive great bow but my favoriate bow is closer to the Messa than the SS. My SS is also a 58" which I think they stopped making.
I have this bow at #55 but it doesn't stack at all like the super mag and this bow is very fast. If you watch the video by 3 rivers they give you a speed test with different arrow weights. I doubt the bear supermag comes anywhere close to that. But all that being said the supermag is not a bad bow at all. Just me personally I like this bow way more.
@@BACKWOODSVET i bought the mesa 60 inch last year after watching this video. I love but i was looking at the super mag 48 just due to it being short , i was just wandering how it matched up , and is it worth buying it or stick w the mesa
@donwaldroopoutdoors3665 I would try to find one to shoot before you buy it honestly. Some people love them and some people hate them. If your a taller guy or a longer draw you may not like it from what I hear. I don't seem to mind them too much but I don't have a real long draw. But if I had more than one bow to choose it would be last on my list unless I was in a climber or a ground blind. So it has its uses, but it's not my favorite.
@donwaldroopoutdoors3665 some people also absolutely love them too so that's why I say find one and shoot it. You just may love it. That's all traditional archery is... Personal preference. And I appreciate you watching my videos.
It's all personal preference. We like what we like and you just keep being you. This is all a personal journey. Enjoy every minute of it and don't shoot something because someone tells you that you should. Everybody is different. Good for you.
@@BACKWOODSVET man it’s worth it in my opinion make your own bow and watch how your life changes idk why man it bring out the best part of us. And you get to show ppl like look at this here bow you see me shooting that target at 40 yards I made it
@Silentbet1of I'm sure it's a great feeling to make your own bow and shoot an arrow and hit the bullseye. I couldn't even imagine the flood of emotions if you could shoot a deer with a homemade bow. Probably couldn't compare to anything else hunting wise.
Awesome dude I just picked one up… I’ve been going back and forth on arrow setup I wanna use…. It’ll definitely be used for hunting whitetail 60” 50lbs and I’m drawing same as you 27.5-28 Do I wanna use 500 shafts with 200-225 up front or go a little heavier 400 spine with 250-300 grain up front? I know you have probably played with all these combos lol and it’s an expensive game to be guessing;)
@@nickbaker9455 I shot gold tips 500 outta mine with 200 grains total up front in my final setup for that bow. It shot very fast and was still around 500 grains. I would just decide for you how much weight you wanna shoot. You sound like your on the right track. Shoot what you want up front too not because somebody said so on Instagram or TH-cam. Shoot what flies best for you. Remember we all used to kill deer with an aluminum arrow and a 125 grain screw on Magnus and nobody knew what F.O.C was.
I have this same bow but it’s 60 lbs. I got golden tip arrows 500g and a 125g tip. But it’s not shooting how I want it too. Do you have any suggestions?
What seems to be going wrong? Maybe I can help just give me a little more info. I will say that for 60lbs that's a pretty light arrow. At the very low end it should be 8grains per pound of draw and that's about where your at. Also depending on the stiffness of your arrow (the number on the side of your arrow) you may need to play with your point weight. I usually have 200+ on the front. And I know with this longbow you may need more because the shelf is not cut to center. The arrow ( archers paradox) needs to bend back around the shelf to straighten out. Also another guy way better than me is instinctive addictions. He's answered questions of mine too.
Thank you! I am a 27-28 inch draw. I asked that guy as well he told me to get a 100 grain insert and use the 125g tip and I should be able to shoot a lot better than I was.
Yeah he's very knowledgeable. I'd try that and see how it works. Still have questions then ask me or him again and maybe we can help you tune this better
I'm a Vet and shoot insctively as well. I live in WV less then 100 miles from Ohio. I enjoy your channel.
Thank you for your service and for watching my channel. I'm glad you enjoy it.
Same here, a vet who grew up in Elkins WV, but living in Butler County, Ohio. Using my self built cherokee style hickory bow. I recently found your video on 3rivers snakeskin backing. It was a great help! Thanks for posting! Thank y'all for your service!
I’m just getting into archery stoked I found your videos✌️
That's great man glad I can help. What kind of archery are you into. Traditional. Or compound with or without sights?
I’ve got one from 3rivers love it’s a beautiful bow hickory with rattle snake skin backing.
That's awesome. Rattle snake would look good!
Good video I just bought one at three rivers archery today absolutely love it I agree with you completely they are $319.00 now a good buy
I just bought one of these from Big Jim's bow company on the used section of his website. Hopefully I'll like it.
I think you will as long as you don't have a really long draw... So I've heard. I don't have a long draw so I'm not sure but that's what I hear. But I do love mine. It's very fast. Enjoy and shoot straight!
@@BACKWOODSVET I'm around 30-31. I'm looking into a 70 inch hill style long bow in a couple months. I've always had an issue with bows stacking on me and I think the 70 inch would solve that. I'm going to have it custom made so hopefully it'll be built to accommodate my draw length. Keep up the great work on your videos and I appreciate you responding to me. 👍👍
@robcarr8505 yeah that is a long draw. Almost unheard of in the trad world. Your a gorilla. Lol. But yeah that 70" longbow sounds like it'll be good for for you but you never know. I've heard some guys that love the supermag48 and that thing stacks like crazy to me. It's all personal preference. And thanks for watching the videos. Keep me updated on the bows and let me know how they all work out for you. I'm curious.
@@BACKWOODSVET I appreciate it 👍👍 I'll definitely let you know what happens.
Nice lookin bow an your pretty good with that thing great video you take care an God bless you
Thank you, I appreciate that.
Nice bow, might have to get one for myself. Just shopping around for now. Making a transition from a crossbow to a more traditional way of hunting. Nice video. Thumbs up...
Thank you and I appreciate that. If this is going to be your first traditional bow then I'd honestly go with the longer Mesa longbow. It will be more forgiving and easier to shoot and just as fast. Welcome to traditional archery. If you ever have any questions just ask. Most important thing is to have fun and know it's a journey and everyone is different.
@@BACKWOODSVET Greetings, I was wondering how the "hand shock" was with Old Mesa bows?
As far as my set up is, it's not bad. I've had some longbows that are bad. I'm shooting a pretty heavy arrow and have a good string and silencers. So that does help. I've also added a second pair of silencers since this video so 4 in total and it is amazing.
Seem I’m not the only one shooting 500 plus grain arrows
No lots of trad guys do. Most hunting arrows for trad guys are around 9 to 10 grains per pound or more. But 500 grains is a good sweet spot for compounds too. My compound arrows are around that weight too
Very nice, my brother in law is also shooting an Old Mountain Mesa, great bows. 👍🏻😁
Thank you... And yeah I'm liking it!
nice
Thanks
Beautiful bow man. Nice shooting.
Thank you. It's mostly the bow. Lol
I watched a year ago and waited 1 year for you to get comments. No comments on your snap shooting ( which is fine and must be intentional) You must be huge if your draw is 27 in the video because it looks like your short drawing. Im big but haveT-rex arms and draw 26" back to my jaw bone where I expand 1/2 inch to get the most I can. My intent is not to be critical just these things jumped out at me. That honestly absolutely has to be the best buy out there. Looks just like my Striker Classic but half the money.
Yeah if I do a full draw to the corner of my mouth and fully extend I'm almost 28.5 29". I do short draw alot and prolly don't even get the full 27" most times. I don't care though honestly. Yeah I've been a snap shooter most my life. I've tried to slow it down but just doesn't work as well for me. I also have never had a coach so I'm sure that would help too. I just have fun. Yeah the bow is a sweet shooter but I wouldn't even try it if you have a Stryker. I'm sure that's nicer.
Jeff Kavanagh was a proponent of snap shooting. I loved Jeff's video's. It's required for foul hunting. OMM is cut 1/16 before center Stryker are cut center. Helps a lot with wider range of arrow tuning. I changed from glove split to Tab 3 under after 50 years. Took me 6 months of regression but was worth the effort. Change is very hard.@@BACKWOODSVET
Nice looking bow. Enjoy 😉
Thank you
Nice shooting.
Thank you
Appreciate the video bud. Looking to upgrade to a better and faster longbow from my Fleetwood D style one I got now. I been looking at this bow for awhile. But wasn't sure if it was worth the money or not
I have one D style longbow. I shot a good buck last year in the shoulder with it. It's not a fast bow but D style longbows are so quiet. Longbows all have something good to offer.
@@BACKWOODSVET I agree completely. I've had people tell me they hat D style because of hand shock. But I don't have much shock out of mine. And mines a cheap $150 bow
@@Hillbillyhoss96 yeah mine isn't an expensive one either. Mine is the mountain man from OMP and I really like it alot too. Quietest bow I've ever shot.
Good review on the bow....I guess Squids always have a bunch of trad bows. IC2 Twig
Hell yeah that's awesome!
@@BACKWOODSVET Always on the hunt for good shooting bow. Lots of good shooting lower price bows that get over looked out there.
Glad to see former Navy guys like myself with the fever.
I've been on the waiting list for about 13 months for a big jim custom bow. I'm supposed to be in the next batch for building so that'll be nice. I'll have to do a video.
There are some great budget bows. I've been shooting budget bows for over 20 years. I've had a few expensive ones here and their but some of the 200$ bows are just shooters!
I have been looking at this bow at 64 in.
I like it and it is very fast. It's not super forgiving at the 60" model I got. I'm sure the 64" is more forgiving and just as fast
What is your length and spine on your arrows..carbon or wood. Thanks. Good video! 👍
I honestly can't remember now what these arrows were but if you watch my timber ridge longbow video I go over the arrows and they are the same ones.
Love that bow, would have one if they made the 60 when I was looking. I went with the mesa II but Im loving it. Ill either get that bow or their new recurve. Have fun bud love the bow
Thank you and good luck to you as well
Great video man. 👍 how come you shoot heavy arrows? Just curious.
It quiets down the bow and reduces hand shock.
@@BACKWOODSVET that makes sense. Thank you
@@Rob_Tradbowhunter no problem
1) heavy arrows are the best way to increase KE for hunting penitration 2) Some bows really clatter with light arrows 3)forward FOC adds stability. 4) reduces handshock. These are the 4 main reasons in order most consider important. I prefer a lighter arrow and manage those issues other ways.
What do you think about this now vs the bear paw slick stick?
I honestly can't say as I have not shot the bear paw slick stick. Sorry.
Slick Sticks has a small grip. My hands are not near as large as BV bearpaws are, and my Slick Stick crowds my grip. Slick Stick rattles like nunchucks with a light arrow ( under 425 gn). The newer models are a lot more stable with the action wood riser than the solid walnut but are not as light. Its a fast, very attractive great bow but my favoriate bow is closer to the Messa than the SS. My SS is also a 58" which I think they stopped making.
How does it and the bear super mag match up
I have this bow at #55 but it doesn't stack at all like the super mag and this bow is very fast. If you watch the video by 3 rivers they give you a speed test with different arrow weights. I doubt the bear supermag comes anywhere close to that. But all that being said the supermag is not a bad bow at all. Just me personally I like this bow way more.
@@BACKWOODSVET i bought the mesa 60 inch last year after watching this video. I love but i was looking at the super mag 48 just due to it being short , i was just wandering how it matched up , and is it worth buying it or stick w the mesa
@donwaldroopoutdoors3665 I would try to find one to shoot before you buy it honestly. Some people love them and some people hate them. If your a taller guy or a longer draw you may not like it from what I hear. I don't seem to mind them too much but I don't have a real long draw. But if I had more than one bow to choose it would be last on my list unless I was in a climber or a ground blind. So it has its uses, but it's not my favorite.
@donwaldroopoutdoors3665 some people also absolutely love them too so that's why I say find one and shoot it. You just may love it. That's all traditional archery is... Personal preference. And I appreciate you watching my videos.
@@BACKWOODSVET me and you look like brothers lol so if it fit u it fits me , im 27 inch draw so idk now , i guess ill stay w the mesa
Hmmm I thought I was the werid one who liked 61 inch bows idk why but I do
It's all personal preference. We like what we like and you just keep being you. This is all a personal journey. Enjoy every minute of it and don't shoot something because someone tells you that you should. Everybody is different. Good for you.
@@BACKWOODSVET thanks man I makes my bow and haven’t looked back since
@Silentbet1of that's awesome! I'd love to try that one day. Your ahead of me. I'll get there one day hopefully
@@BACKWOODSVET man it’s worth it in my opinion make your own bow and watch how your life changes idk why man it bring out the best part of us. And you get to show ppl like look at this here bow you see me shooting that target at 40 yards I made it
@Silentbet1of I'm sure it's a great feeling to make your own bow and shoot an arrow and hit the bullseye. I couldn't even imagine the flood of emotions if you could shoot a deer with a homemade bow. Probably couldn't compare to anything else hunting wise.
How has the bow been holding up?
It's doing very well. No issues at all
Does it shoot better then the timber ridge TD?
No not for me personally. I love that timber ridge takedown... It's hands down my favorite longbow that I have.
Awesome dude I just picked one up… I’ve been going back and forth on arrow setup I wanna use…. It’ll definitely be used for hunting whitetail
60” 50lbs and I’m drawing same as you 27.5-28
Do I wanna use 500 shafts with 200-225 up front or go a little heavier 400 spine with 250-300 grain up front? I know you have probably played with all these combos lol and it’s an expensive game to be guessing;)
@@nickbaker9455 I shot gold tips 500 outta mine with 200 grains total up front in my final setup for that bow. It shot very fast and was still around 500 grains. I would just decide for you how much weight you wanna shoot. You sound like your on the right track. Shoot what you want up front too not because somebody said so on Instagram or TH-cam. Shoot what flies best for you. Remember we all used to kill deer with an aluminum arrow and a 125 grain screw on Magnus and nobody knew what F.O.C was.
I have this same bow but it’s 60 lbs. I got golden tip arrows 500g and a 125g tip. But it’s not shooting how I want it too. Do you have any suggestions?
What seems to be going wrong? Maybe I can help just give me a little more info. I will say that for 60lbs that's a pretty light arrow. At the very low end it should be 8grains per pound of draw and that's about where your at. Also depending on the stiffness of your arrow (the number on the side of your arrow) you may need to play with your point weight. I usually have 200+ on the front. And I know with this longbow you may need more because the shelf is not cut to center. The arrow ( archers paradox) needs to bend back around the shelf to straighten out. Also another guy way better than me is instinctive addictions. He's answered questions of mine too.
Thank you! I am a 27-28 inch draw. I asked that guy as well he told me to get a 100 grain insert and use the 125g tip and I should be able to shoot a lot better than I was.
Yeah he's very knowledgeable. I'd try that and see how it works. Still have questions then ask me or him again and maybe we can help you tune this better
Thank you I greatly appreciate it!!
No problem at all.