Really 90% of the time you would be charging at home. Also you can adjust how many amps you can draw, this setting was not in the video, who knows where she had it set. I thought superchargers are supposed to do 80% in 30 minutes.
+Darren Rich 50% in 20 minutes, 80% in 40 minutes, if charging from zero. Full charge is supposed to be 75 minutes, so I don't know why it was shown 2h for her.
I've been to over 200 SuperChargers on my 48 State road trip. It rarely took over an hour, many times 30 min or less. When you first plug it in it shows a longer time until the charging speed cranks up....
The reporters approach to charging is incorrect. You do not need to charge to 100% (the likely reason it said two hours at the super charger). If she charged to 80% she would've been on the road a lot quicker and still had plenty of range to continue her trip. I find many people in the media still miss this simple concept - guess they are still stuck in the gasoline paradigm where you have to stand by your car and wait for it to fill up. Look up Bjorn Nyland here on TH-cam he'll show you how to road trip a Tesla complete with tips on how to charge the fastest.
I like how she said that "You have to be okay with giving up the raw, pure feeling of driving a mechanical car" It puts the gasoline car in such an antique place and time.
+Landon Thomas If she's charging it to 100% (the last 20% takes a while). But in real-world road tripping scenarios, you only charge what you need to make it to the next charger or to your destination (or any buffer you want). So realistically with the speed from 0 to 80% it's the quickest, and would only actually take 25-30 min for typical needs. Besides, people always fail to mention you charge at home and wake up every morning with a full charge.
Steven Berry I understand that 0 to 80% is the quickest, but from 0 to 100 it's actually supposed to take 75 minutes, NOT 120 minutes(2 hours). I've looked it up on their website.
+Landon Thomas They have, but it isn't worth the expense and trouble to do it for the 5% use case of two cars having low enough charge and using the same charger at the same time both needing maximum current at the same time for the same length of time. In the real world, most of the time when chargers are at capacity, one car will have come in 10-30 minutes earlier, and not be using the maximum capacity when the second car connects, so it has very little impact. It isn't worth doubling the cost of the Supercharger network to address that issue. Gas stations have the same problem when the reservoirs start to get low, which also could've been fixed, but even after 80 years of use, that also still hasn't been "fixed". It just isn't worth the expense.
It's a commuter car, not meant for long trips. That's why I would get a E Hybrid for home charging and worry free driving. You have to plan your trip around charing the battery, LOL. Buy a Tesla for showing off your wealth and drive it once a week to the church or golf course. But a Porsche Macan for everyday driving. It's fun, fast, and love the sound of the exhaust.
Your comment sounds like BS, so you're telling me you're doing +360km daily, right? Moreover, u can't compare the fun and acceleration of any tesla to anything like porsche or ferrari or whatever. If owned a Porsche Macan you would pay in service maintenance in 7 to 10 years even more money than you paid for the car, which makes it more expensive than a tesla. LOL
ROFL. Buy a Porsche for everyday driving? To burn gasoline everyday and hear some shitty exhaust note? No thanks I'd rather burn no gas, smoke your inferior macan using no gas, and enjoy my amazing music collection with the smooth silent electric drivetrain. All day everyday forever.
Huh ? Since when ? 45min is for the 10-80% with the best supercharger stalls and no one next to you.. Max time a supercharger takes to charge is well above 45min. They are insane, no doubt, but let's not spread misinformation ..
Yeah, it's too obvious, when she didn't care about acceleration or didn't realize that there is the "FRUNK", charged 2 hours, when it normally takes just over an hour and so on...
Rocket Man She Deliberately Parked Next To Another Tesla Charging, Set It To Charge To 100%, Drained The Battery As Much As She Could, And Filmed The Screen As Soon As She Plugged It In To Get The Longest Charging Time Possible.
2:48 BUT YOU DO USE FOSSIL FUELS! WHERE DO YOU THINK THE ELECTRICITY COMES FROM but like completely renewable energy in cars would be pretty cool but as of right now, YOURE USING FOSSIL FUELS
At 2:20 "it feels really fast when you push down on the gas pedal". I always giggle a bit when car reviewers talk about the EVs and still refer to old school components like a "gas pedal". Gotta give it some gas!!! :-D
At 2:20 "it feels really fast when you push down on the gas pedal"...That's because it is really fast! Tesla Model X P90D with 'Ludicrous Speed' Upgrade does 0-60 in 3.2 seconds which is real supercar performance!
I know right? "Waste time charging?" Yeah 20-30 minutes for 300+km or range? I'd take it any day. 2 hours to charge?! LOLOL!!!!! Does she not know she was parked RIGHT BESIDE another tesla in the supercharger station? That means she was sharing a battery with another car which = 2x more time for charging. ALSO, she was planning to charge to 100%?! Who does that?! Almost every tesla owner knows that you DO NOT CHARGE TO 100%. 0-85% = 20-30 minutes. 85-100% = Over 1 hour. Get it right?
Most people use their car back and forth to work and in the city, no issue with range or charging - on a road trip, no one charges up to 100%. Charge 30 mins or so then you're good for 200 more miles when you'll need a break any way. Overall the Model X and S are amazing cars. Everyone who drives them loves them!
Junior Ellis Couriers Do It All The Time, And There Are A Lot Of People Who Work Far Away. I Used To Go To A School That Was Over An Hour And A Half Away From My House. That Is A Over A Three Hour Commute Every Single Day That's If I Didn't Went Anywhere Else!!!
I actually liked your review very much. It actually wasn't bias (like many other Tesla reviews are): it was honest and factual. Thank you for not turning this into an EV propaganda segment and instead giving a legit review.
The idea is to drive for 300km (180mi) or so and then take a half an hour break to rest and recharge 60-80% which is presumably something you'd do anyway after 2hrs or more of continuous driving and then rinse and repeat if you run out of charge again. It's really a minor hassle... on those few days a year you do a long trip otherwise you will never notice the battery and actually save time by not stopping for gas. Her 2hr recharge, even if she is going for full is either a malfunction or a malicious lie.
The problem with many Tesla reviews is that they do not understand how to deal with charging and estimation of range. One shout NOT just look at the range left in the dashboard. As she said that will jump depending on the terrain. The way to do it, is to put in the destination in the GPS and use the energy screen with the trip tab. This is pretty accurate and a bit on the conservative side if you drive slightly above speed limits. Using that and put int the next spuercharger you can go from supercharger go the next with an average of 30 minutes charging for every 2 hours af driving. That's when you really should take a rest and stop anyway. So in essence no time wasted waiting.
Bloomberg...Teslas are the car you guys love to hate! Sadly for you, most people love them as they are the most advanced, good looking, efficient, and clean vehicles (in production) on the road. I suggest next time you have someone that likes cars and technology to review the car...Hannah seems to have trouble understanding how the vehicle works and operates. Not to mention, that she wasted 5 days of work, travel expenses, and oxygen, into creating a crappy review of an awesome product...
If she knew anything about the car, it would not take nearly that long to charge. She can adjust the charging rate, she can park in an empty charging slot and not share the current. She can adjust the doors and most everything about the car that she did not like, including the regen braking. Tesla gives you the ability to extend your range or turn off a lot of features to make it more ICE-like (internal combustion engine). Or, turn them on, like the creep mode so that your car creeps forward at red lights when you remove your foot from the brake. A better feature is to use autopilot which will automatically creep the car to follow the car in front. Perhaps it should be called stalker mode.
If you are somebody who drives more than 250 miles a day, do not get a Tesla. But if you are like most people who drive less than 250 miles a day, you'll be able to charge at home, which takes less than a minute extra time to plug it in, then go about what you need to do any way, like sleeping. Many Tesla owners are not tree huggers. They bought the car for the performance and driving experience. Anyone who hasn't driven a Tesla is like someone who only saw Michael Jackson's picture but never saw him perform. Yes, the long trips take longer, but supercharger is free, forever. Usually, the stops only take 20-40 minutes, perfect time to take a break.
+Kellie Na Here's the thing about the range though. Sure, maybe most people don't drive more than 250 miles a day but consider that highways are now approaching 70 mph which reduces EPA range even more and people love their A/C and heaters. Not to mention how cold weather can reduce range by over a 1/3. It's best to get the highest kilowatt hour battery for future-proofing. 400 miles for an electric car should cover these effects that really cut range down
I'm confused when i read your comment .. At first it seems you say that tesla are not meant for long trips and that if you don't drive too much you can charge it at home .. As if you couldn't do that if you were someone who drives a lot daily ? And then you say long trips takes longer but supercharger is free, and the time needed to stop ( 20-40min ) and recharge is a perfect time to take a break, which seems to makes the tesla perfect for long trips .. Plus the " many tesla owner are not tree huggers " reference and the comparison with people who never saw MJ performs seems so irrelevant when you contradict yourself right after .. So which is it .. ?
The tesla battery is heated and cooled the temperature of battery is controlled so there is no drop secondly with that amount of charge holding capacity AC and heaters dont affect range significantly The battery is huge
Cindy i dont have a tesla but its my dream car and i am 100% willing to get one just because its electric, i think its time for innovation and i honestly also want the car because its zero emissions thats the number one priority in my eyes i dont care about the technology inside or the comfort i just want an enviorment friendly car
Cindy, our experience with the base model x is just as you described. I'd qualify that for Long haul trips, where you must travel greater 400 miles per day, superchargers are essential to reach your destination in any remotely reasonable amount of time. If you are in a hurry, the ice car still has the edge and will save an hour, but for 95% of most people's driving, what's not to love about charging at home over night as needed. Time saved over pumping gas right there
*"...but if you **_*are_* that kind of driver..."* My god, I'm reliving the "Smug Alert!" episode from the TV show "South Park" from back in 2006! And isn't it just "Kar"mic (sorry, just kouldn't resist the pun... :-D ) that Comedy Central will be rerunning that very episode tomorrow, (Wednesday, May 4th, 2016) at 4:17 PM *Eastern Daylight Time* in the United States? (I know, it's a weird time, right? But that's how they schedule much of their "before evening prime-time" programming).
+Guybrush Threepwood Please re-watch 2:45-2:50 again, and then get back to me if you're still of the same opinion that triggered your initial response.
+Guybrush Threepwood "No need"? "Good memory"? More like "Just not interested". Allow me to quote *verbatim* those 5 seconds for you. "You really do feel virtuous when you drive it. No fossil fuels HEEE-URR!" bellowed out in such an extremely smug, snarky, and sickeningly clueless, self-righteous tone. She's obviously of the crew who thinks that, *her own electric vehicle (in her own mind, at least) is "emissions-free", as long as SHE'S far removed from the emissions happening at (overwhelmingly likely) the either coal or natural gas-fired electric power plant, which allows her to recharge her vehicle every single time she plugs her car in*. She's only going through her phony "virtue signaling" shtick because she wants to sound "caring and cool" and to "fit in" with all of her equally clueless friends, as well as to sway an easily brainwashed public which obviously includes you as well. As in the "South Park" episode referenced earlier in this comment thread, I'll bet that the both of you think that the most pleasant odor on earth is the smell of your own self-righteous and self aggrandizing farts.
babybirdhome What's your point? *Have you LOOKED at Solar City's stock price lately? It's DROPPED OVER 77 PERCENT FROM IT'S ALL-TIME HIGH OF $84.96 (USD) SET BACK ON FEBRUARY 28th, OF 2014.* At this point in its development, solar power simply is making absolutely no money on it's own, and can't survive without MASSIVE government subsidies, which will be running out very, very, soon, unless "rescued" by yet another "good money after bad" cash infusion "courtesy" of the U.S. government taxpayers. The link to SolarCity's historical stock price chart is here, click on the "5 year":tab to expand the chart to an easily readable format. www.google.com/search?q=SolarCity&oq=SolarCity&aqs=chrome..69i57.4286j0j1&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8#q=scty+stock+price+history
" Automatic front doors can be tricky. They open when you least expect it " ... Really ? When you least expect it ? First, only the driver door automatically opens only when you get pretty close.. How is that unexpected ? So bad :/
$150,000 and you have to wait 2 hours to charge? Not practical and not fun driving without engine roaring. I'll rather get a Porsche Cayenne Turbo for that price or get a Porsche E Hybrid. Hybrid is the way to go with no worries. Besides, electric is not pollution free since power plants need to burn coal. The interior feels like a Ford rather than an Audi.
Andrew 82 If she knew anything about the car, it would not take nearly that long. She can adjust the charging rate, she can park in an empty charging slot and not share the current, she can adjust the doors and most everything about the car that she did not like, including the regen braking. Tesla gives you the ability to extend your range or turn off a lot of features to make it more ICE-like (internal combustion engine). Or, turn them on, like the creep mode so that your car creeps forward at red lights when you remove your foot from the brake. A better feature is to use autopilot which will automatically creep the car to follow the car in front. Perhaps it should be called stalker mode.
reviewer is doing it wrong... it wasn't engineered for car reviews where you drive around for 4 hours until the battery is dead then bounce a ball on the wall while it charges to 100%... that's stupid. If that's how she drivers her gas car well then I'd be wrong...
Decent review. Don't listen to the haters. They hate everything and everyone because being a car nut makes them feel like they're actually experts in something when they're probably not expert about anything else in their lives.
Great video, however; "Even with the windows up you can hear a cricket outside?" I'm sorry but that's not good at all, that's a poor isolated cabin. If you want to hear the outside you can always lower your windows, but what if you don't want to hear the outside world?
Why did it take you 2hours to charge!!!!? It should have only taken you half an hour to 40 minutes to fully charge with a near fully drained battery. I am utterly confused as to what she did to make it take 2 hours to charge!!!.........
The reason it says 2 hours to charge was because she didn't leave her home with a full charge to start her trip. Also she most likely did not need even need to charge to 100% to make it to the next Supercharger.Most people that own a tesla, usally always leave home with a full charge Since the car should be plugged into their home during the night while they were sleeping. When you go on your trip, each Tesla Supercharger station should only take about 20 mins to complete enough charge to get you to the next Supercharger. I have been on many trips with my Tesla 85D and when you plug into the Supercharger the message pop up on the screen will let you know how much energy you will need in order to get you to the next Supercharger.
I hate when people drive car with one and turn them off, like I would love to have one on my car and these guys that can afford it doesn't give a crap about it :( lol
No, you, dear god no. Let me modify your quote here. It should be: "It's not whether or not you want this car," it's "why are you (given you have the money and this car fits what you want it to do) not buying this car?"
Peak hours are the bestt time to charge. At night. When the cost is lowest since people are sleeping. Depends what provider you have. Only 11 cents per hour with Edison. so a little over a dollar
although i do love tesla i find it ridiculous that they don't put a bigger battery in it than the model s. like seriously the range is severely restricted with only a 90kwh battery
I want this SUV so bad, but for long distance road trips I'm going to have to stick with gas/hybrid cars. Waiting TWO HOURS for your car to charge up can make your trip soo much more longer.
+#Dangerous It usually takes about an hour, but she was probably sharing the stall with another Tesla car, hence the two hour time frame. Maybe, she was the second car to plug in, as a result, was receiving 30 kW from the Supercharger, instead of 90 kW or 120 kW.
That's pure bullshit. She share the charger with another car, which DOUBLE the charge time AND she charges to 100%, witch is bad for the battery and NO ONE does that. People charge enough to reach the next charging station, with a few miles to spare just in case. Typical scenario is 20 to 40 minutes MAX. More than enough to go to the bathroom and order a burger. After that 3 hours long drive, you know you'll want that 20-30 minutes break...
I feel like for right now, hybrid cars are the best of both worlds, they are cleaner than only fossil fuel cars but provide more convince and more reliability than a Tesla at this moment. However, how technology is moving, electric cars are the future
Jeez, read the manual before starting with "reviews" O_o For instance..disabling the auto-openning doors is just few clicks away... Cant believe you had it for five days
It is inevitable that gasoline and diesel is going to phase out as electric vehicles and other 'mechanical energy' platforms like hydrogen fuel cell for electric power conversion and liquid hydrogen fuel combustion engine through electrolysis of water or premade hydrogen fuels at fueling stations... Other viable technologies like magnetic surge motor generator, Quant nanoFlowcell technology, and various ion fuel cell technology platforms...as well as implementing solar cell charging/conversion - battery storage.
This is either ignorance or intentional deceit. 1) You charge according to the distance you need. It is stupid to charge "FULLY" if you have other things to do. I don't even do that with my phone. 2) Charge your Tesla at home like everyone else. My neighbor says he has range anxiety. Yet he "travels" from El Cerrito to San Francisco (less than 20 miles) everyday, and has never driven beyond LA in his freakin' life. Ask him when was the last time he drove to LA? 2009!!!! Yeah, you don't have range anxiety! What you have is closer to insanity!!!
the reason for the slow charge would have been sharing amps with another car... if you owned one and did some research you'll understand how the chargers work and you won't spend that long. even if she had reconnected the charger after 10 or 15 min the rate would have gone way up as the other car drawing power would have tapered down by then. don't let the 2 hours scare you and if you are interested in a vehicle here's a link to save 1000$ ts.la/matt8726
+MrEndzo Goverment put those subsidies to be used, as a way to buy clean air, technological development, local industry, etc. Most are open for everyone to take, if you think it is easy. But only tesla is serious about making electric cars, so it isn't that easy I guess? Sun CEO tried to bash Musk for sucking subsidies, but he didn't answer to the bet on who took more subsidies that Musk offered.
+MrEndzo You mean like the loan they paid back years in advance? Or the direct subsidies to the cars that will literally save the planet? What about the trillions that go to the fossil fuel industry? Subsidizing clean energy isn't crony, it's the rational thing to do.
Electric cars are not green, to make the batteries you need lithium and you also need rare earth for other parts. The extraction of rare earth and lithium is polluting rivers in China with radioactivity.
MrEndzo How is lithium bad for the environment? Li-ion batteries are recyclable and lithium won't get dumped somewhere because it's valuable. Why did you have to mention China? Are the rare earth metal extractors in more developed countries not polluting enough? Sounds like cherry-picking data.
this car isnt for her... who charges a battery to full? i agree some people dont have a clue of technology al long it works. in a long distance trip you always need to kill some time..
Supercharging 2 hours? 🤔 Really? I have driven my Tesla for more than 150.000km now and I have never ever spent more than half an hour at a supercharger. You can easily cover over 1000km driving a day with threr stops of 30 minutes. And we are talking Gernan Autobahn...
Best part of electric cars is they are smoooth. worst part of the Tesla is that horrible touch screen. I HATE HATE HATE touch screens, I will not buy a car with one. They take your eyes off the road for too long while you search through the menus and try to get to work what you want to work. I like analog knobs and buttons I can work without even looking at them simply from memory and do exactly what you set them to do.
Californians are the only ones to jump on the new electric vehicle gimmick. That's why most supercharging stations are over there. I know tesla cars are usable but when it comes to a high practicality percentage, it might not be fully there yet.
+oreskec If you run it till it's almost totally depleted and then charge to 100%, it takes about that long. But if they'd left at 90% charge, it would've been more like 45-50 minutes.
Reasons to buy a Tesla: No maintenance, no trip to gas station, technology, show off wings. Reasons not to buy a Tesla: Worry of running out of juice, long time to charge, places to charge, inferior crash test results, Model X's ugliness Saw a few Model S and X, definitely go with Model S. S looks like a luxury car. X looks cheaper than a Mazda. I would never get such an ugly suv unless I don't care about style. You have to keep the wings open to get people notice. Get a Porsche E Hybrid instead. You can use all electric for short distance and gas for long distance without any worries.
Decent video.. but one huge newbie mistake.. charging fully. Big waste of time. I expect this was more about filming than it was about "living with the car" for 5 days as the title suggests. Living with the car becomes about your destinations..not about the car itself. The car is just a vehicle to get you where you are going and that's how it should really be treated in any videos about it's actual use. I would have loved to see more of her learning how to charge it.. and when. These subtle shifts are key. One has to wrap their mind around the idea of charging the car when you aren't using it.. rather than fueling one while you are using it. And yeah.. that sandy beach thing. Ah.. dumb.
Super chargers are solar powered. Not sure what happens at night - probably wind+solar carbon offsets - but over the next little bit they'll be using powerwall tech to store sunlight for night use. Even if the electricity comes from coal, a Tesla performance model gets about 37mpg(e). When you compare that to equivalent autos that can perform as quickly it's both way more efficient and holds a lot more people an items.
Some electricity comes from fossil fuel but some does not, and as time progresses then can get more and more from alternative sources. Then the cars will already be able to use the electricity. BUT HERE IS THE MAIN POINT: They have explained time and time again and you have clearly missed this information or have not paid attention. Yet you still choose to comment about something which you are ignorant to. Even if electricity is generated by fossil fuel means, the efficiency of doing so still yields 1/4 to 1/5 of the pollution as compared to generating the energy by the gas engine in the fossil fuel cars themselves. In other words the electric generation plant is that much more efficient in generating the electricity for the car then the generation of energy in the cars own gas engine used to propel itself.
+jcrarela These $85,000 cars were made to have the richer people help pay for the development of the $35,000 Tesla 3 coming out next year. Without it the 3 might not be possible.
Well it is accurate. It is the "maximum possible power deliverable by the powertrain" Or combined system power in this case is a usual figure. All car makers (that I know of) put there HP figures like that. And the important thing is that the HP and NM figures in petrol powered cars are only reached for a fraction of a second in at an ideal rev. So the horsepower of a Porsche for example is a theoretical figure that the engine could produce at a certain rev. under ideal conditions. So not what is getting to the wheels through a gearbox etc. but what the engine could put out.
Really 90% of the time you would be charging at home. Also you can adjust how many amps you can draw, this setting was not in the video, who knows where she had it set. I thought superchargers are supposed to do 80% in 30 minutes.
+Darren Rich 50% in 20 minutes, 80% in 40 minutes, if charging from zero. Full charge is supposed to be 75 minutes, so I don't know why it was shown 2h for her.
And she charge the battery to 100%, which no one does! You charge for enough juice to get to the next charging station + a few mile to spare.
She parked next to a partner stall. She was sharing juice with the other tesla. Newb mistake. :)
she did that on purpose.
I've been to over 200 SuperChargers on my 48 State road trip. It rarely took over an hour, many times 30 min or less. When you first plug it in it shows a longer time until the charging speed cranks up....
The reporters approach to charging is incorrect. You do not need to charge to 100% (the likely reason it said two hours at the super charger). If she charged to 80% she would've been on the road a lot quicker and still had plenty of range to continue her trip. I find many people in the media still miss this simple concept - guess they are still stuck in the gasoline paradigm where you have to stand by your car and wait for it to fill up.
Look up Bjorn Nyland here on TH-cam he'll show you how to road trip a Tesla complete with tips on how to charge the fastest.
Yup. Plus she was sharing a charger with another Tesla. That means 2x slower charging rates. Useful tip, not too many people know
Per Tesla online estimator the MAX it could have taken is 90 minutes. this review is such Bullshit
I like how she said that "You have to be okay with giving up the raw, pure feeling of driving a mechanical car" It puts the gasoline car in such an antique place and time.
How the hell can it take 2 hours at a supercharger?
+Landon Thomas If she's charging it to 100% (the last 20% takes a while). But in real-world road tripping scenarios, you only charge what you need to make it to the next charger or to your destination (or any buffer you want). So realistically with the speed from 0 to 80% it's the quickest, and would only actually take 25-30 min for typical needs. Besides, people always fail to mention you charge at home and wake up every morning with a full charge.
Steven Berry I understand that 0 to 80% is the quickest, but from 0 to 100 it's actually supposed to take 75 minutes, NOT 120 minutes(2 hours). I've looked it up on their website.
If other cars are charging it can take longer.
But I thought Tesla's electrical engineers would've gotten around that.
+Landon Thomas They have, but it isn't worth the expense and trouble to do it for the 5% use case of two cars having low enough charge and using the same charger at the same time both needing maximum current at the same time for the same length of time. In the real world, most of the time when chargers are at capacity, one car will have come in 10-30 minutes earlier, and not be using the maximum capacity when the second car connects, so it has very little impact. It isn't worth doubling the cost of the Supercharger network to address that issue.
Gas stations have the same problem when the reservoirs start to get low, which also could've been fixed, but even after 80 years of use, that also still hasn't been "fixed". It just isn't worth the expense.
I drive a Model S P85D. When I'm doing a trip, I never charge more than 45 minutes. You never charge to 100%. Usually 60-80% is way enough.
Thank you for clarification.
It's a commuter car, not meant for long trips. That's why I would get a E Hybrid for home charging and worry free driving. You have to plan your trip around charing the battery, LOL.
Buy a Tesla for showing off your wealth and drive it once a week to the church or golf course. But a Porsche Macan for everyday driving. It's fun, fast, and love the sound of the exhaust.
Your comment sounds like BS, so you're telling me you're doing +360km daily, right? Moreover, u can't compare the fun and acceleration of any tesla to anything like porsche or ferrari or whatever. If owned a Porsche Macan you would pay in service maintenance in 7 to 10 years even more money than you paid for the car, which makes it more expensive than a tesla. LOL
ROFL. Buy a Porsche for everyday driving? To burn gasoline everyday and hear some shitty exhaust note? No thanks
I'd rather burn no gas, smoke your inferior macan using no gas, and enjoy my amazing music collection with the smooth silent electric drivetrain. All day everyday forever.
Charge to 80%, not 100%. That last 20% can take half the time, isn't generally worth waiting for, and is harder on the battery life.
These idiots do not understand basic physics like charging a battery.
All they care for getting paid from bloody oil companies
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there's no way that should of taken 2 hours to charge from a supercharger ! this is such a negative video.
+masterquadbiker Max time a supercharger takes to charge is about 45 minutes.
It's really slow if power is split between other cars.
+TLK Reviews It's only really slow for the first 20 minutes or so, until the one that has priority can't accept the full current anymore.
Huh ? Since when ? 45min is for the 10-80% with the best supercharger stalls and no one next to you..
Max time a supercharger takes to charge is well above 45min.
They are insane, no doubt, but let's not spread misinformation ..
This review brought (or bought) to you by Shell Oil Co.
Yeah, it's too obvious, when she didn't care about acceleration or didn't realize that there is the "FRUNK", charged 2 hours, when it normally takes just over an hour and so on...
Rocket Man She Deliberately Parked Next To Another Tesla Charging, Set It To Charge To 100%, Drained The Battery As Much As She Could, And Filmed The Screen As Soon As She Plugged It In To Get The Longest Charging Time Possible.
And She Pushed The Gas Paddle in Model X !
*Pedal
Good point!
Standard bloomberger approach.
Medieval thinking we can just say evil to be more accurate.
2:48 BUT YOU DO USE FOSSIL FUELS! WHERE DO YOU THINK THE ELECTRICITY COMES FROM but like completely renewable energy in cars would be pretty cool but as of right now, YOURE USING FOSSIL FUELS
At 2:20 "it feels really fast when you push down on the gas pedal".
I always giggle a bit when car reviewers talk about the EVs and still refer to old school components like a "gas pedal". Gotta give it some gas!!! :-D
+kyoko703 "now pour little gasoline on the electric motor and it'll go much faster, I promise"
+kyoko703
If you've ever told someone to "hang up" their cell phone then join the club...
Jonathan Gwynne
Can't say that I've ever told anyone to "hang up". I usually just say "talk to you later" or something like that.
At 2:20 "it feels really fast when you push down on the gas pedal"...That's because it is really fast! Tesla Model X P90D with 'Ludicrous Speed' Upgrade does 0-60 in 3.2 seconds which is real supercar performance!
Alright review, but slightly clueless and some misuse of the car.
I know right? "Waste time charging?" Yeah 20-30 minutes for 300+km or range? I'd take it any day. 2 hours to charge?! LOLOL!!!!! Does she not know she was parked RIGHT BESIDE another tesla in the supercharger station? That means she was sharing a battery with another car which = 2x more time for charging. ALSO, she was planning to charge to 100%?! Who does that?! Almost every tesla owner knows that you DO NOT CHARGE TO 100%. 0-85% = 20-30 minutes. 85-100% = Over 1 hour. Get it right?
Right? And most cases you charge at home anyway. So for roadtrips you charge to 80% as you said. Really bad review.
Who drives a $150,000 car on the salty beach
bloomberg
+Christian Brown Model X is made of aluminum and cannot rust.
Where in California can you even drive on the beach?
+Alby Clendennin true aluminum does not rust, it does however corrode.
@mk17173n you can drive on Grover beach CA it is also a san dune.
Most people use their car back and forth to work and in the city, no issue with range or charging - on a road trip, no one charges up to 100%. Charge 30 mins or so then you're good for 200 more miles when you'll need a break any way.
Overall the Model X and S are amazing cars. Everyone who drives them loves them!
This was a really lame review
S3 XY lol a bit.
Range in this vehicle is not a problem,how many of you drive for 4 hours none stop and if so how often do you do it?everyday.
Junior Ellis Couriers Do It All The Time, And There Are A Lot Of People Who Work Far Away.
I Used To Go To A School That Was Over An Hour And A Half Away From My House. That Is A Over A Three Hour Commute Every Single Day That's If I Didn't Went Anywhere Else!!!
Ivansky1 you most of done this on the train or bus?
"No fossil fuels here" as she is plugged into the grid.
finally a decent review of tesla from the bloomberg haters
Bloomberg is more skeptical than hateful, really.
I actually liked your review very much. It actually wasn't bias (like many other Tesla reviews are): it was honest and factual. Thank you for not turning this into an EV propaganda segment and instead giving a legit review.
“It feels really fast when you push down the gas peddle” ... what fucking gas? 😂😂😭😭💀
I came in here all excited about model X. Thanks to you, all the excitement is gone.
The idea is to drive for 300km (180mi) or so and then take a half an hour break to rest and recharge 60-80% which is presumably something you'd do anyway after 2hrs or more of continuous driving and then rinse and repeat if you run out of charge again. It's really a minor hassle... on those few days a year you do a long trip otherwise you will never notice the battery and actually save time by not stopping for gas.
Her 2hr recharge, even if she is going for full is either a malfunction or a malicious lie.
Come back here to say I have a 2017 Model X, 90D. I do not regret it - 150k miles and counting.
The problem with many Tesla reviews is that they do not understand how to deal with charging and estimation of range. One shout NOT just look at the range left in the dashboard. As she said that will jump depending on the terrain. The way to do it, is to put in the destination in the GPS and use the energy screen with the trip tab. This is pretty accurate and a bit on the conservative side if you drive slightly above speed limits. Using that and put int the next spuercharger you can go from supercharger go the next with an average of 30 minutes charging for every 2 hours af driving. That's when you really should take a rest and stop anyway. So in essence no time wasted waiting.
I think I saw "supercharging 2 hrs remaining" on 1:45 . Isn't Tesla saying supercharging only need 30 minutes???
Bloomberg...Teslas are the car you guys love to hate! Sadly for you, most people love them as they are the most advanced, good looking, efficient, and clean vehicles (in production) on the road. I suggest next time you have someone that likes cars and technology to review the car...Hannah seems to have trouble understanding how the vehicle works and operates. Not to mention, that she wasted 5 days of work, travel expenses, and oxygen, into creating a crappy review of an awesome product...
Best review ever
TheeDaniel R from who?
Peter Robann Sobrepena excuse me?
nope not at all.
So at 1:26 she says we've been driving 4 hrs or so.... here in the UK you can't drive that far without ending up in a different country!
Great review
If she knew anything about the car, it would not take nearly that long to charge. She can adjust the charging rate, she can park in an empty charging slot and not share the current. She can adjust the doors and most everything about the car that she did not like, including the regen braking. Tesla gives you the ability to extend your range or turn off a lot of features to make it more ICE-like (internal combustion engine). Or, turn them on, like the creep mode so that your car creeps forward at red lights when you remove your foot from the brake. A better feature is to use autopilot which will automatically creep the car to follow the car in front. Perhaps it should be called stalker mode.
If you are somebody who drives more than 250 miles a day, do not get a Tesla. But if you are like most people who drive less than 250 miles a day, you'll be able to charge at home, which takes less than a minute extra time to plug it in, then go about what you need to do any way, like sleeping. Many Tesla owners are not tree huggers. They bought the car for the performance and driving experience. Anyone who hasn't driven a Tesla is like someone who only saw Michael Jackson's picture but never saw him perform. Yes, the long trips take longer, but supercharger is free, forever. Usually, the stops only take 20-40 minutes, perfect time to take a break.
+Kellie Na Here's the thing about the range though. Sure, maybe most people don't drive more than 250 miles a day but consider that highways are now approaching 70 mph which reduces EPA range even more and people love their A/C and heaters.
Not to mention how cold weather can reduce range by over a 1/3. It's best to get the highest kilowatt hour battery for future-proofing. 400 miles for an electric car should cover these effects that really cut range down
I'm confused when i read your comment ..
At first it seems you say that tesla are not meant for long trips and that if you don't drive too much you can charge it at home .. As if you couldn't do that if you were someone who drives a lot daily ?
And then you say long trips takes longer but supercharger is free, and the time needed to stop ( 20-40min ) and recharge is a perfect time to take a break, which seems to makes the tesla perfect for long trips ..
Plus the " many tesla owner are not tree huggers " reference and the comparison with people who never saw MJ performs seems so irrelevant when you contradict yourself right after ..
So which is it .. ?
The tesla battery is heated and cooled the temperature of battery is controlled so there is no drop
secondly with that amount of charge holding capacity AC and heaters dont affect range significantly
The battery is huge
Cindy i dont have a tesla but its my dream car and i am 100% willing to get one just because its electric, i think its time for innovation and i honestly also want the car because its zero emissions thats the number one priority in my eyes i dont care about the technology inside or the comfort i just want an enviorment friendly car
Cindy, our experience with the base model x is just as you described. I'd qualify that for Long haul trips, where you must travel greater 400 miles per day, superchargers are essential to reach your destination in any remotely reasonable amount of time. If you are in a hurry, the ice car still has the edge and will save an hour, but for 95% of most people's driving, what's not to love about charging at home over night as needed. Time saved over pumping gas right there
*"...but if you **_*are_* that kind of driver..."* My god, I'm reliving the "Smug Alert!" episode from the TV show "South Park" from back in 2006! And isn't it just "Kar"mic (sorry, just kouldn't resist the pun... :-D ) that Comedy Central will be rerunning that very episode tomorrow, (Wednesday, May 4th, 2016) at 4:17 PM *Eastern Daylight Time* in the United States? (I know, it's a weird time, right? But that's how they schedule much of their "before evening prime-time" programming).
+Guybrush Threepwood Please re-watch 2:45-2:50 again, and then get back to me if you're still of the same opinion that triggered your initial response.
+Guybrush Threepwood "No need"? "Good memory"? More like "Just not interested". Allow me to quote *verbatim* those 5 seconds for you. "You really do feel virtuous when you drive it. No fossil fuels HEEE-URR!" bellowed out in such an extremely smug, snarky, and sickeningly clueless, self-righteous tone. She's obviously of the crew who thinks that, *her own electric vehicle (in her own mind, at least) is "emissions-free", as long as SHE'S far removed from the emissions happening at (overwhelmingly likely) the either coal or natural gas-fired electric power plant, which allows her to recharge her vehicle every single time she plugs her car in*. She's only going through her phony "virtue signaling" shtick because she wants to sound "caring and cool" and to "fit in" with all of her equally clueless friends, as well as to sway an easily brainwashed public which obviously includes you as well. As in the "South Park" episode referenced earlier in this comment thread, I'll bet that the both of you think that the most pleasant odor on earth is the smell of your own self-righteous and self aggrandizing farts.
+bohnstube Yeah, let's forget all about Solar City, whose solar panels power the Supercharger she was charging it at.
babybirdhome What's your point? *Have you LOOKED at Solar City's stock price lately? It's DROPPED OVER 77 PERCENT FROM IT'S ALL-TIME HIGH OF $84.96 (USD) SET BACK ON FEBRUARY 28th, OF 2014.* At this point in its development, solar power simply is making absolutely no money on it's own, and can't survive without MASSIVE government subsidies, which will be running out very, very, soon, unless "rescued" by yet another "good money after bad" cash infusion "courtesy" of the U.S. government taxpayers. The link to SolarCity's historical stock price chart is here, click on the "5 year":tab to expand the chart to an easily readable format.
www.google.com/search?q=SolarCity&oq=SolarCity&aqs=chrome..69i57.4286j0j1&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8#q=scty+stock+price+history
" Automatic front doors can be tricky. They open when you least expect it " ... Really ? When you least expect it ? First, only the driver door automatically opens only when you get pretty close.. How is that unexpected ? So bad :/
$150,000 and you have to wait 2 hours to charge? Not practical and not fun driving without engine roaring. I'll rather get a Porsche Cayenne Turbo for that price or get a Porsche E Hybrid. Hybrid is the way to go with no worries. Besides, electric is not pollution free since power plants need to burn coal. The interior feels like a Ford rather than an Audi.
Andrew 82 If she knew anything about the car, it would not take nearly that long. She can adjust the charging rate, she can park in an empty charging slot and not share the current, she can adjust the doors and most everything about the car that she did not like, including the regen braking. Tesla gives you the ability to extend your range or turn off a lot of features to make it more ICE-like (internal combustion engine). Or, turn them on, like the creep mode so that your car creeps forward at red lights when you remove your foot from the brake. A better feature is to use autopilot which will automatically creep the car to follow the car in front. Perhaps it should be called stalker mode.
How can you hear the crickets with the windows up ?
"So quite I can hear crickets outside as I drive." Um, what? You can hear crickets instead of the wind when you're driving 60mph?
+iamquiick
That joke went over your head. HAHA
reviewer is doing it wrong... it wasn't engineered for car reviews where you drive around for 4 hours until the battery is dead then bounce a ball on the wall while it charges to 100%... that's stupid. If that's how she drivers her gas car well then I'd be wrong...
Decent review. Don't listen to the haters. They hate everything and everyone because being a car nut makes them feel like they're actually experts in something when they're probably not expert about anything else in their lives.
mistertee she's not an expert either
Great video, however; "Even with the windows up you can hear a cricket outside?" I'm sorry but that's not good at all, that's a poor isolated cabin. If you want to hear the outside you can always lower your windows, but what if you don't want to hear the outside world?
Why did it take you 2hours to charge!!!!? It should have only taken you half an hour to 40 minutes to fully charge with a near fully drained battery. I am utterly confused as to what she did to make it take 2 hours to charge!!!.........
The model X p90 has a slower charge. Check out tesla bjorn for his recent trip to see
Looks so beautiful in blue.
I would say that way pretty accurate, but Im still in college so won't see any new car anytime soon :(
The reason it says 2 hours to charge was because she didn't leave her home with a full charge to start her trip. Also she most likely did not need even need to charge to 100% to make it to the next Supercharger.Most people that own a tesla, usally always leave home with a full charge Since the car should be plugged into their home during the night while they were sleeping. When you go on your trip, each Tesla Supercharger station should only take about 20 mins to complete enough charge to get you to the next Supercharger. I have been on many trips with my Tesla 85D and when you plug into the Supercharger the message pop up on the screen will let you know how much energy you will need in order to get you to the next Supercharger.
That trip planner has been known to disappoint most drivers
You forgot to switch the headlights on
I know right. The X has awesome LED DRL's and they have them turned off like really
I hate when people drive car with one and turn them off, like I would love to have one on my car and these guys that can afford it doesn't give a crap about it :( lol
No, you, dear god no. Let me modify your quote here. It should be: "It's not whether or not you want this car," it's "why are you (given you have the money and this car fits what you want it to do) not buying this car?"
I just want to drive this car without touching the steering wheel that's all
You wouldn't be driving the car without a steering wheel now would you?
I love Tesla's so much and I understand the concept and everything in it. My question is how much does my electrical bill raise when I buy one lol
costs around 7 dollars to charge
Peak hours are the bestt time to charge. At night. When the cost is lowest since people are sleeping. Depends what provider you have. Only 11 cents per hour with Edison. so a little over a dollar
It cost me 30 dollars a month to charge, using the optional supercharger at my work as well.
worlds worst voice stopped at 0:10
It's legal to drive on beach?
although i do love tesla i find it ridiculous that they don't put a bigger battery in it than the model s. like seriously the range is severely restricted with only a 90kwh battery
I want this SUV so bad, but for long distance road trips I'm going to have to stick with gas/hybrid cars. Waiting TWO HOURS for your car to charge up can make your trip soo much more longer.
+#Dangerous It usually takes about an hour, but she was probably sharing the stall with another Tesla car, hence the two hour time frame. Maybe, she was the second car to plug in, as a result, was receiving 30 kW from the Supercharger, instead of 90 kW or 120 kW.
That's pure bullshit. She share the charger with another car, which DOUBLE the charge time AND she charges to 100%, witch is bad for the battery and NO ONE does that. People charge enough to reach the next charging station, with a few miles to spare just in case. Typical scenario is 20 to 40 minutes MAX. More than enough to go to the bathroom and order a burger. After that 3 hours long drive, you know you'll want that 20-30 minutes break...
How many model 3 sold?
I feel like for right now, hybrid cars are the best of both worlds, they are cleaner than only fossil fuel cars but provide more convince and more reliability than a Tesla at this moment. However, how technology is moving, electric cars are the future
+Matteo Pennacchietti hybrid car is stupid, the best is all electric with a generator.
Jeez, read the manual before starting with "reviews" O_o
For instance..disabling the auto-openning doors is just few clicks away...
Cant believe you had it for five days
should say "Electric pedal" instead of "Gas pedal"
+Malcolm Kon (MnM) hah...americans and their silly fool-proof way of naming things.
Shock pedal
Zap pedal
Arc pedal
Current pedal
Gasless pedal
Bloomberg powered 2 hour supercharger
She charged on the same charger as another car which reduced the power output majorly. She should have gone to a completely vacant one.
3:00 What the hell is a mechanical car? And how does it differ from a Tesla?
It is inevitable that gasoline and diesel is going to phase out as electric vehicles and other 'mechanical energy' platforms like hydrogen fuel cell for electric power conversion and liquid hydrogen fuel combustion engine through electrolysis of water or premade hydrogen fuels at fueling stations...
Other viable technologies like magnetic surge motor generator, Quant nanoFlowcell technology, and various ion fuel cell technology platforms...as well as implementing solar cell charging/conversion - battery storage.
This is either ignorance or intentional deceit.
1) You charge according to the distance you need.
It is stupid to charge "FULLY" if you have other things to do. I don't even do that with my phone.
2) Charge your Tesla at home like everyone else.
My neighbor says he has range anxiety. Yet he "travels" from El Cerrito to San Francisco (less than 20 miles) everyday, and has never driven beyond LA in his freakin' life.
Ask him when was the last time he drove to LA?
2009!!!!
Yeah, you don't have range anxiety! What you have is closer to insanity!!!
They should come up with a powerbank or backup charger for this car.
The video is misleading, it charges from 0-50% in 30min & has 250mile range.
2 hours of charging? believe me.. in the future.. 5 minutes
+Reyner Giovanni either it's broken car or broken supercharger. charging time is not already 20minutes, 30 if your battery is really depleted
the reason for the slow charge would have been sharing amps with another car... if you owned one and did some research you'll understand how the chargers work and you won't spend that long. even if she had reconnected the charger after 10 or 15 min the rate would have gone way up as the other car drawing power would have tapered down by then. don't let the 2 hours scare you and if you are interested in a vehicle here's a link to save 1000$ ts.la/matt8726
when you push down the gas pedal? might need a new name here
Elon Musk is a visionary.
+TESLA-REACTIONS More like a crony, government subsidies sucker.
+MrEndzo Goverment put those subsidies to be used, as a way to buy clean air, technological development, local industry, etc. Most are open for everyone to take, if you think it is easy. But only tesla is serious about making electric cars, so it isn't that easy I guess?
Sun CEO tried to bash Musk for sucking subsidies, but he didn't answer to the bet on who took more subsidies that Musk offered.
+MrEndzo You mean like the loan they paid back years in advance? Or the direct subsidies to the cars that will literally save the planet? What about the trillions that go to the fossil fuel industry? Subsidizing clean energy isn't crony, it's the rational thing to do.
Electric cars are not green, to make the batteries you need lithium and you also need rare earth for other parts. The extraction of rare earth and lithium is polluting rivers in China with radioactivity.
MrEndzo How is lithium bad for the environment? Li-ion batteries are recyclable and lithium won't get dumped somewhere because it's valuable. Why did you have to mention China? Are the rare earth metal extractors in more developed countries not polluting enough? Sounds like cherry-picking data.
this car isnt for her... who charges a battery to full? i agree some people dont have a clue of technology al long it works. in a long distance trip you always need to kill some time..
how about instead with all the money you save from not buying gas, you just rent out a car for a road trip?
So you ended up spending more money when you are waiting for your car to be charged?
The video is misleading, it charges from 0-50% in 30min & has 250mile range. Also, charging is free.
Simple question: if you are a millennial today, do you want to drive an ICE 10 years from now or an Electric Car?
Did the sun ever set in this video?...lol:D..
1:43 2 hours to charge... looks like she might have chosen a bad stall.
She shared a circuit with another Tesla. Stupid mistake because it slows charging down so much.
Supercharging 2 hours? 🤔 Really?
I have driven my Tesla for more than 150.000km now and I have never ever spent more than half an hour at a supercharger.
You can easily cover over 1000km driving a day with threr stops of 30 minutes.
And we are talking Gernan Autobahn...
Two hours to super-charge?! I don't understand. What happened to half an hour stop to eat and charge?! Something's not right here.
Best part of electric cars is they are smoooth. worst part of the Tesla is that horrible touch screen. I HATE HATE HATE touch screens, I will not buy a car with one. They take your eyes off the road for too long while you search through the menus and try to get to work what you want to work. I like analog knobs and buttons I can work without even looking at them simply from memory and do exactly what you set them to do.
Californians are the only ones to jump on the new electric vehicle gimmick. That's why most supercharging stations are over there. I know tesla cars are usable but when it comes to a high practicality percentage, it might not be fully there yet.
whut? 2 hours remaining on supercharger? that smells fishy
+oreskec If you run it till it's almost totally depleted and then charge to 100%, it takes about that long. But if they'd left at 90% charge, it would've been more like 45-50 minutes.
2 hours? thats a supercharger isnt it. Should be much quicker than that.
Reasons to buy a Tesla: No maintenance, no trip to gas station, technology, show off wings.
Reasons not to buy a Tesla: Worry of running out of juice, long time to charge, places to charge, inferior crash test results, Model X's ugliness
Saw a few Model S and X, definitely go with Model S. S looks like a luxury car. X looks cheaper than a Mazda. I would never get such an ugly suv unless I don't care about style. You have to keep the wings open to get people notice. Get a Porsche E Hybrid instead. You can use all electric for short distance and gas for long distance without any worries.
What? how does it have 762 horse power? You got to learn what does horse power mean before putting it in your review.
No its 762 E-Bunnies
I didn't know tree sticks were giving out car reviews these days.
For fucks sake, bite something!
you dont add the motors jp together.. common people! if you're going to post something online.. at least do some proper research! geez.
you lost me at $151,000
i wil wait for model y
gonna keep my VW diesel ^^
I WANT ONE SOOOOOO BAD!!!!!
Decent video.. but one huge newbie mistake.. charging fully. Big waste of time.
I expect this was more about filming than it was about "living with the car" for 5 days as the title suggests.
Living with the car becomes about your destinations..not about the car itself. The car is just a vehicle to get you where you are going and that's how it should really be treated in any videos about it's actual use.
I would have loved to see more of her learning how to charge it.. and when. These subtle shifts are key. One has to wrap their mind around the idea of charging the car when you aren't using it.. rather than fueling one while you are using it.
And yeah.. that sandy beach thing. Ah.. dumb.
PaleHearse the car charges in 20 to 30 mins not 2 hours
ughh I hate how slow and laggy the main touchscreen is. that is the worst part of this car.
It's 762 torque.
762 lb•ft? 762 N•m?
762 lb ft
music?
I love it This Car
where do you think electricity comes from
Super chargers are solar powered. Not sure what happens at night - probably wind+solar carbon offsets - but over the next little bit they'll be using powerwall tech to store sunlight for night use.
Even if the electricity comes from coal, a Tesla performance model gets about 37mpg(e). When you compare that to equivalent autos that can perform as quickly it's both way more efficient and holds a lot more people an items.
Some electricity comes from fossil fuel but some does not, and as time progresses then can get more and more from alternative sources. Then the cars will already be able to use the electricity. BUT HERE IS THE MAIN POINT: They have explained time and time again and you have clearly missed this information or have not paid attention. Yet you still choose to comment about something which you are ignorant to. Even if electricity is generated by fossil fuel means, the efficiency of doing so still yields 1/4 to 1/5 of the pollution as compared to generating the energy by the gas engine in the fossil fuel cars themselves. In other words the electric generation plant is that much more efficient in generating the electricity for the car then the generation of energy in the cars own gas engine used to propel itself.
+Dwayne D. SolarCity provides the electricity so I see where you're getting this from
40 minutes to 80% is more like it ! from 5 or 10% SOC.
Model x charges in 30 minutes not 2 hours!
Tom Barron it charges to 80percent in 30 mins
Tyler Mumford which battery option are you refering to?
Why give the car to someone clueless girl to review? geez..
"feeling of a mechanical car"
Hmm. Car in garage 8 hours a day of thats max. Charging 1-2hrs is not badd yoo.
2 hours wait at a fuel station LOL!!!
Not many people can afford this at $85k+.
+jcrarela These $85,000 cars were made to have the richer people help pay for the development of the $35,000 Tesla 3 coming out next year. Without it the 3 might not be possible.
The most electricity comes from the fossil fuel. So.........
The 7xx horsepower isn't accurate...the combined output isn't the real hp of the car
So, how much HP then?
532hp I think
Well it is accurate. It is the "maximum possible power deliverable by the powertrain" Or combined system power in this case is a usual figure. All car makers (that I know of) put there HP figures like that. And the important thing is that the HP and NM figures in petrol powered cars are only reached for a fraction of a second in at an ideal rev. So the horsepower of a Porsche for example is a theoretical figure that the engine could produce at a certain rev. under ideal conditions. So not what is getting to the wheels through a gearbox etc. but what the engine could put out.