Preset K was released in new dll on Jan 30, 2025. Preset K is updated version of J. This preset is available in version 310.2 or above, dll can be downloaded from techpowerup site. Preset J while improving on lot of things over old CNN model, does has some new artifacts too, however it seems Nvidia has already fixed some of them with K. Twinkling in foliage in Final Fantasy is mostly reduced and artifacts with Alan Wake 2 with moving water behind fence has also been reduced significantly. Silent Hill 2 test this time I ran out of the box version, removing all tweaks that turn off vignette, chromatic aberration etc. The noise around head was less severe with this but still exists and seems to be same for both J and K. You can also refer to Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth DLSS 4 comparison with 3.7 here - th-cam.com/video/mtP6QbWbfIc/w-d-xo.html or DLSS 4 Ray reconstruction comparison done in Cyberpunk 2077 over here - th-cam.com/video/dLWPV5LAmRc/w-d-xo.html or Preset C vs E vs J vs RR in Alan Wake 2 - th-cam.com/video/KLMsj5w74Is/w-d-xo.html or Indiana Jones - th-cam.com/video/TtmCr_ZOZlM/w-d-xo.html If video was helpful, Like, Comment, Subscribe or Share, Thank you. *How do I get preset K?* Option 1 - Use Nvidia app, click on graphics then 3 dots then refresh, now select your game in list, scroll down to driver settings and then in DLSS Override - Model Presets, select 'use different settings for each dlss technology' and then finally select latest for super resolution. Option 2 - Grab the new dll 310.2.1.0 from techpowerup - www.techpowerup.com/download/nvidia-dlss-dll/ and overwrite the old ones in your game files Then either use *latest* version of dlsstweaks or *latest* version of NPI to change preset to K For NPI if you lack new xml file to make preset K appear in NPI, you can grab that from discord in dlss guides channel. If using dlsstweaks then you can use the guide below to change preset to K. How to use DLSS Tweaks mod to change preset 1. Go to www.nexusmods.com/site/mods/550?tab=files 2. Select Manual Download 3. After downloading, extract and you will find 6 files 4. Run EnableNvidiaSigOverride reg file and confirm (This step is only required once, you don't need to repeat this when modding new game) 5. Rename nvngx dll to winmm dll and then copy 3 files - winmm dll, dlsstweaks ini, DLSSTweaksConfig exe 6. Go to game folder and paste these files in same folder that has game exe files 7. Open DLSSTweaksConfig exe 8. Scroll down to 3rd section - DLSSPresets 9. Use pull down menu to change default to preset K. Do it for every quality level you intend to use and hit save at top That is it, all done Game should be closed when you change values If mod worked you will see dlsstweaks log file in same folder where you copied these files (after you play the game at least once) You can also run DisableNvidiaSigOverride to reverse the effects of step 4 if you don't want to use the mod anymore. *Timestamps* 00:00 Alan Wake 2 - Graphic Settings Used 00:05 Alan Wake 2 - Preset J vs K - DLSS 4 Performance - Scene 1 00:27 Alan Wake 2 - Preset J vs K - DLSS 4 Quality - Scene 1 00:49 Alan Wake 2 - Preset J vs K - DLSS 4 Performance - Scene 2 01:13 Alan Wake 2 - Preset J vs K - DLSS 4 Quality - Scene 2 01:34 Final Fantasy VII Rebirth - Graphic Settings Used 01:40 Final Fantasy VII Rebirth - Preset J vs K - DLSS 4 Performance - Scene 1 02:02 Final Fantasy VII Rebirth - Preset J vs K - DLSS 4 Quality - Scene 1 02:25 Final Fantasy VII Rebirth - Preset J vs K - DLSS 4 Performance - Scene 2 02:47 Final Fantasy VII Rebirth - Preset J vs K - DLSS 4 Quality - Scene 2 03:09 Silent Hill 2 - Graphic Settings Used 03:18 Silent Hill 2 - Preset J vs K - DLSS 4 Performance 03:40 Marvel's Spider-Man 2 - Graphic Settings Used 03:48 Marvel's Spider-Man 2 - Preset J vs K - DLSS 4 Performance - Scene 1 04:10 Marvel's Spider-Man 2 - Preset J vs K - DLSS 4 Performance - Scene 2 05:32 Indiana Jones and the Great Circle - Graphic Settings Used 05:39 Indiana Jones and the Great Circle - Preset J vs K - DLSS 4 Performance 07:05 Alan Wake 2 - Preset J vs K - DLSS 4 Performance - Scene 3 08:24 Video Suggestions *Watch Next* Marvel's Spider-Man 2 - RTX 3070 - th-cam.com/video/keHSuA7hsss/w-d-xo.html S.T.A.L.K.E.R. 2 Benchmark video all settings tested - th-cam.com/video/LkS7ZtTCngE/w-d-xo.html S.T.A.L.K.E.R. 2 Texture Quality Comparison - th-cam.com/video/OW_dqDf4tIQ/w-d-xo.html Forza Motorsport RTGI Update - RTGI vs RTAO vs RT Off - th-cam.com/video/AxgbbPK2RMA/w-d-xo.html Indiana Jones and the Great Circle - HRT On vs Off - th-cam.com/video/2Aym0bDzNIQ/w-d-xo.html DLSS 3.8.10 is available now - 4 Game Comparison - th-cam.com/video/doKULU2W8P4/w-d-xo.html Preset C vs E vs F - 5 Game Comparison - th-cam.com/video/oMWa0zIvXmY/w-d-xo.html RTX 3070 in 2024 - 20 Games Tested - 1440p,1080p - th-cam.com/video/-Mxu9kJQqKs/w-d-xo.html *Ryzen 3600 vs Ryzen 7600* Cyberpunk 2077 - 1440p - th-cam.com/video/7vMmrCmECDg/w-d-xo.html Star Wars Jedi Survivor - 1440p - th-cam.com/video/YGGLfocs-Mk/w-d-xo.html Alan Wake 2 - 1440p - th-cam.com/video/IGsXr8A0cdM/w-d-xo.html Hogwarts Legacy - 1440p - th-cam.com/video/u9xikAwJsyE/w-d-xo.html *Join* my Discord server for image based comparisons and DLSS related guides - discord.gg/Hu6TARTPQY amzn.to/3U1yr9b ASUS Dual GeForce RTX 4070 Super - amzn.to/4bCkbNF ASUS TUF Gaming RTX 4070 Ti Super - amzn.to/3CjRBDi AMD Ryzen 7 5700X3D - amzn.to/3AfGVVU Asus Dual GeForce RTX 4060 Ti 16GB - amzn.to/3YOxiqw XFX Speedster Radeon RX 7900XT - amzn.to/3wk1huw ASUS TUF Gaming RTX 4090 - amzn.to/3NR3GSZ AMD Ryzen 5 9600X - amzn.to/4ebExgO Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE - amzn.to/3NSgw3E Disclosure: I get commissions for purchases made through links in this post.
A question my friend,if i use Nvidia app and chose latest my games will then default to K?Or do i still need to change them with tweak mods? In the app i see it has up to J preset and then latest.
@@woofaki5550 yes selecting latest is all you need to do to get K nvidia app handles everything dlsstweaks or NPI is only for games that don't show up in nvidia app
@ Yeah understandable there's also a registry hack to show which dlss version and preset are running anyway keep doing what you're doing your hard work will not go unnoticed
Wow, what an underrated channel. Pretty cool that you show settings used and the way you make the stuff from MSi Afterburner stats look. Very well thought how and what you are showing, putting zoom to show the changes you identified. Nicely done.
I just discover your channel and instantly subscribe, you producing really good work with these comparison video. For the comparison between preset J and K, i recommend you to make comparison with Cyberpunk 2077 also, the game vegetation really suffer with the new dlss model in preset J, i suppose it's probably really better with the preset K. And again, continue your good work, this is an underrated channel.
You can use Nvidia profile inspector revamped to force the preset/updated DLL, works better than other methods. Also you need to incorporate more motion tests to upscalers/anti-aliasing methods. Most of these are just holding still
no, it's better to copy/paste DLL and then force preset model in the nvidia app. Works on all single player titles without having to go to Nv inspector just to do a simple gosh darn thing
@sheikhrayan9538 except the nvidia app doesnt support every game, so NVPI has better compatability. You're also acting as if NVPI is complicated. Just open it, press a button, boom it's done. It's easier than the NVIDIA app, and you dont have to manually swap DLLs for each game
@TheCactuar124 Not true you can turn on globally the override that the Nvidia app uses for updating the DLSS and force it to do this will all DLSS games that have DLSS 2 and up unlike the app which prevents you doing this with some games dispite the fact what I just explained and it works just Nvidia doesn't let you for some reason.
NVidia profile inspector only works starting with DLSS 3.1. The app has limited support now, but is including more games as time passes, and they have all sorts of DLSS implementations. If I was considering some sort of "set and forget", I'd go with the NVidia app just keeping in mind it won't be all encompassing in the beginning.
A more detailed comparison of Spider-Man 2 - Preset E vs J vs K vs TAA vs XeSS vs IGTI - RT off on RR off on - 11 different scenes, lots and lots of comparisons - th-cam.com/video/7j1ORN6EsoA/w-d-xo.html
so same performance but better quality/less shimmering and ghosting, i guess that makes sense since its K is just an update to J rather than a brand new version like dlss 3 vs 4
I tested today chivalry 2(its an EAC online game theres no ban btw) with new nvidia dlss 4 override feature with both preset j and k modes, preset j got shutters and has lots of ghosting issues it was worse than dlss 2 and later i tested k version in dlss performance mode it literally became dlss quality mode with better fps and resolution, i recommend to use newest preset first(which is k for now) later try other presets
You should be in the same league with MxBenchmark and Digital Foundry when it comes to DLSS testing IMO. Hardware Unboxed is overrated and you are criminally underrated.
Hardware unboxed has good overarching analysis (like their DLSS vs FSR analysis), but their day 1 takes are literally "graph go br" and I don't really trust them when it comes to ray tracing since their ray tracing video claimed "no change" in quite a few tittles that I see significant changes (sometimes even in their own footage). I don't know if I would call them "overrated", but their audience is definitely reeks of the "they got 30% uplift with 40 games vs DF which got 29% with 10 games so they're better" their overall approach motivates instead of any sort of holistic take when it comes to these cards.
Can u make a video showing how to upgrade from j model to k model ? I used the inspector method to mod the j model and using it with my rtx 3050 and its good ! But seeing you test the new K model make me wanna upgrade to it
you just need new xml file for your inspector app once you paste new xml file, K will appear in the list grab this new xml from my discord ohh and make sure dll 310.2 or higher in use, grab this from techpowerup site
I NOTICE THAT DLAA IN PRESET J IS BETTER THAN K because i noticed that dlaa in preset k make the scene in far areas looks little bit blurry like the old modul did but preset j is making it sharp
@@dayanvaldes1349 I have tried both, they both work but not all games show up in nvidia app NPI must be latest version and also needs new xml file, can be downloaded from my discord
Nice video. Im late to the story in alan wake and in a flooded area when using K preset i would get strobing lights coming out of objects or foliage. Going back to the default dlss of the now updated game, these lights disappeared
So I am guessing it only works with games that support frame generation ? Cause I tried using the Nvidia App with Metro Exodus Enhanced Edition and it says that it's Unsupported ?
Hello 👋🙂 Do you have the opportunity to make a comparison using the example of Rdr 2 with the new Dlcc 4 Transformer vs Native model? Now there is already nvidia app, but as some user say, this application does not always set presets in a specific one. One user told me that in Rdr 2 + Dllc 4 + Nvidia app, Dlaa is set and for some reason ultra-quality appears. I wonder which is better and more correct manually via Dlss tweaker or via Nvidia app. In general, a video with an example of how to use Nvidia agp would be more useful and interesting than ever to take a look at the user guide. Thank you in advance.
I think for the end user it is best to continue using the manual method and NPI dlsstweaks for the time being. App is new and buggy, with time it will get better. If using app you can also use dlsstweaks to enable hud in its global settings and see if all is working correctly, if yes then you can turn it off. I think nvidia should add hud option in their app too like we get performance numbers by pressing alt R
@S2GamesBench And what is the Alt+R combination? Under what conditions does it work when you specify a Hud-related option in the dlls tweaker? This is the first time I've heard of it, please explain.
@Rostovgenchik no alt r enables performance metrics, you can try it, it will show you fps, gpu temp clock speed etc I was wondering if they could add dlss hud to that then it will make things easier
@ Oh, I get it, does the alt + r combination work when you have new drivers installed and the nvidia app is running? Do I understand correctly that Nvidia app comes with the new drivers, or can it be installed separately? By the way, have you tested the new drivers?
@Rostovgenchik I checked few scenes and performance was same with new drivers. Alt R you can press anytime and performance overlay will show up even when games are not running.
Are you sure for some of these that you were actually using the correct presets? There's a registry edit that will show you which preset you have when you open the game.
hey so I placed dlss tweaks next to exe file of spidey 2 and also pasted the latest DLL file and set preset to K for DLAA but yet I dont see the dlss tweaks log generated do I have to manually override the DLL file in the tweaks config??
grab latest dll from here - www.techpowerup.com/download/nvidia-dlss-dll/ then overwrite old dll file in your game with one you downloaded then either use NPI or dlsstweaks to change preset to K dlsstweaks guide is in pinned comment
Could you possibly do some testing for J vs K for DLAA? (might produce some different results compared to Performance and Quality) I keep hearing that K is superior, but to my eyes K looks too blurry/introduces some artifacts in face textures, etc. when playing at 1440p DLAA.
Option 1 - Use Nvidia app. Option 2 - Grab the new dll 310.2.1.0 from techpowerup - www.techpowerup.com/download/nvidia-dlss-dll/ and overwrite the old ones in your game files Then either use *latest* version of dlsstweaks or *latest* version of NPI to change preset to K
What about Silent Hill 2 with quality mode? The artifacts looked awful in performance mode Edit: Ok I found the other video on your channel, thx for these comparisons
@@quanariston7612 if you keep ray reconstruction on then select transformer in game settings if you keep it off then grab latest dll 310.2 from here - www.techpowerup.com/download/nvidia-dlss-dll/ then overwrite old dll file in your game with one you downloaded, this file is in root folder of game then either use NPI or dlsstweaks to change preset to K dlsstweaks guide is in pinned comment
Are you able to run the game with dlss tweaks files in the game's directory? The game will crash for me, the only way to fix the crash is by removing the dlss tweaks files.
@@tomtomkowski7653 Basically DLSS upscaling can be done in various ways Each way is a preset Presets affect image quality and performance as for differences you can check this playlist, every preset to ever exist has been compared here - th-cam.com/play/PLl8LHiAQW21YAAxCOjHe8K_t_qiWacDPb.html
@@tomtomkowski7653 those are quality modes, you can change them in game settings to decide what resolution game runs at. Presets are not same thing, presets decide how DLSS is run If it is confusing you can use nvidia app and leave it to latest then nvidia will handle everything and you don't have to do anything.
@@tomtomkowski7653 They don't need to be that confusing. If you set it to "latest" on your nvidia app, you will get the best version. Older versions are maintained for backwards compatibility and comparison reasons, but you don't need to interact with them at all.
These are my presets... Neither of those are included lol Preset A: Intended for Performance/Balanced/Quality modes. Preset B: Intended for Ultra Performance mode. Preset C: Intended for Performance/Balanced/Quality modes. Preset D: Intended for Performance/Balanced/Quality modes. Preset E: The now-default preset for Performance/Balanced/Quality modes. Preset F: The now-default preset for Ultra Performance and DLAA modes.
Currently not that simple, while transformers have improved over CNN but there are still some issues like in Spiderman 2 you see ghosting with both J and K while E doesn't have it, however image stability is better with K In Indiana Jones E has ghosting while J doesn't So it depends on game what to use.
I tried the dlss preset k with the nvidia app override in multiple games, but for example, in marvel rivals, dlss 4 introduces tearing (don't know why) and judder, the original game's dlss does not show the same issues. I know tearing is not linked to dlss but it only happens when i use the override option. (and things on camera does not seem to moove smoothly even though frame time is flat and fps are in gsync range)
Ks an improvement over J but still not good with ray tracing 😢 I tried K with the Witcher 3 and the foliage was too fuzzy and could see artifacts around geralts head, I ended up using E preset which is 3.8 Quality by my understanding, big improvement over the original DLSS but would love it if they fixed dlss 4 with ray tracing enabled.
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Thanks was quite helpful
@@day_walkar9143 wow thank you
this is the highest I have ever received 👍
Great comparision. Nobody as you for these test. You are the DLLS master
Wow, thanks!
What about DLSS?
DDLS vs DLLS vs DLSS comparison please
Deep learning looping solution, mhhh nice
Preset K was released in new dll on Jan 30, 2025. Preset K is updated version of J. This preset is available in version 310.2 or above, dll can be downloaded from techpowerup site.
Preset J while improving on lot of things over old CNN model, does has some new artifacts too, however it seems Nvidia has already fixed some of them with K. Twinkling in foliage in Final Fantasy is mostly reduced and artifacts with Alan Wake 2 with moving water behind fence has also been reduced significantly.
Silent Hill 2 test this time I ran out of the box version, removing all tweaks that turn off vignette, chromatic aberration etc. The noise around head was less severe with this but still exists and seems to be same for both J and K.
You can also refer to Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth DLSS 4 comparison with 3.7 here - th-cam.com/video/mtP6QbWbfIc/w-d-xo.html
or DLSS 4 Ray reconstruction comparison done in Cyberpunk 2077 over here - th-cam.com/video/dLWPV5LAmRc/w-d-xo.html
or Preset C vs E vs J vs RR in Alan Wake 2 - th-cam.com/video/KLMsj5w74Is/w-d-xo.html
or Indiana Jones - th-cam.com/video/TtmCr_ZOZlM/w-d-xo.html
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*How do I get preset K?*
Option 1 - Use Nvidia app, click on graphics then 3 dots then refresh, now select your game in list, scroll down to driver settings and then in DLSS Override - Model Presets, select 'use different settings for each dlss technology' and then finally select latest for super resolution.
Option 2 - Grab the new dll 310.2.1.0 from techpowerup - www.techpowerup.com/download/nvidia-dlss-dll/
and overwrite the old ones in your game files
Then either use *latest* version of dlsstweaks or *latest* version of NPI to change preset to K
For NPI if you lack new xml file to make preset K appear in NPI, you can grab that from discord in dlss guides channel.
If using dlsstweaks then you can use the guide below to change preset to K.
How to use DLSS Tweaks mod to change preset
1. Go to www.nexusmods.com/site/mods/550?tab=files
2. Select Manual Download
3. After downloading, extract and you will find 6 files
4. Run EnableNvidiaSigOverride reg file and confirm (This step is only required once, you don't need to repeat this when modding new game)
5. Rename nvngx dll to winmm dll and then copy 3 files - winmm dll, dlsstweaks ini, DLSSTweaksConfig exe
6. Go to game folder and paste these files in same folder that has game exe files
7. Open DLSSTweaksConfig exe
8. Scroll down to 3rd section - DLSSPresets
9. Use pull down menu to change default to preset K. Do it for every quality level you intend to use and hit save at top
That is it, all done
Game should be closed when you change values
If mod worked you will see dlsstweaks log file in same folder where you copied these files (after you play the game at least once)
You can also run DisableNvidiaSigOverride to reverse the effects of step 4 if you don't want to use the mod anymore.
*Timestamps*
00:00 Alan Wake 2 - Graphic Settings Used
00:05 Alan Wake 2 - Preset J vs K - DLSS 4 Performance - Scene 1
00:27 Alan Wake 2 - Preset J vs K - DLSS 4 Quality - Scene 1
00:49 Alan Wake 2 - Preset J vs K - DLSS 4 Performance - Scene 2
01:13 Alan Wake 2 - Preset J vs K - DLSS 4 Quality - Scene 2
01:34 Final Fantasy VII Rebirth - Graphic Settings Used
01:40 Final Fantasy VII Rebirth - Preset J vs K - DLSS 4 Performance - Scene 1
02:02 Final Fantasy VII Rebirth - Preset J vs K - DLSS 4 Quality - Scene 1
02:25 Final Fantasy VII Rebirth - Preset J vs K - DLSS 4 Performance - Scene 2
02:47 Final Fantasy VII Rebirth - Preset J vs K - DLSS 4 Quality - Scene 2
03:09 Silent Hill 2 - Graphic Settings Used
03:18 Silent Hill 2 - Preset J vs K - DLSS 4 Performance
03:40 Marvel's Spider-Man 2 - Graphic Settings Used
03:48 Marvel's Spider-Man 2 - Preset J vs K - DLSS 4 Performance - Scene 1
04:10 Marvel's Spider-Man 2 - Preset J vs K - DLSS 4 Performance - Scene 2
05:32 Indiana Jones and the Great Circle - Graphic Settings Used
05:39 Indiana Jones and the Great Circle - Preset J vs K - DLSS 4 Performance
07:05 Alan Wake 2 - Preset J vs K - DLSS 4 Performance - Scene 3
08:24 Video Suggestions
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K is better. Still some flickering here and there but less than J
A question my friend,if i use Nvidia app and chose latest my games will then default to K?Or do i still need to change them with tweak mods? In the app i see it has up to J preset and then latest.
@@woofaki5550 yes selecting latest is all you need to do to get K
nvidia app handles everything
dlsstweaks or NPI is only for games that don't show up in nvidia app
your videos are really great.. overall it seems K to be more stable, also it seems to have less clipping too ??
@ocerco93 I didn't see any change with clipping
best dlss comparison channel on youtube, appreciate
thank you
Criminally underrated channel
@@NXDL25 thank you 😅
Trite and overused comment.
@@johnboylan3832 I know you wanted to say it before me
It's ok. It's the thought that counts!
Only got better. Was anticipated for this, thank you.
@@Ragssssss welcome
I found this channel yesterday and wow the amount of hard work and detail you put in your videos is crazy keep going
thank you
@@S2GamesBench Btw i don't know if you're using dlss swapper or not but its a great tool to manage dlss dlls and swap them on the fly
@@stylie473joker5 I have heard of it but I prefer manual change because for testing I need to swap a lot and confirmation is also required
@ Yeah understandable there's also a registry hack to show which dlss version and preset are running
anyway keep doing what you're doing your hard work will not go unnoticed
Wow, what an underrated channel. Pretty cool that you show settings used and the way you make the stuff from MSi Afterburner stats look. Very well thought how and what you are showing, putting zoom to show the changes you identified. Nicely done.
Thanks! I try to keep things as informative and clear as possible.
Love your layout for the rtss overlay, and the "progress bar" at the bottom! Excellent videos, thank you
@@enerjustics thank you and welcome
I just discover your channel and instantly subscribe, you producing really good work with these comparison video.
For the comparison between preset J and K, i recommend you to make comparison with Cyberpunk 2077 also, the game vegetation really suffer with the new dlss model in preset J, i suppose it's probably really better with the preset K.
And again, continue your good work, this is an underrated channel.
thank you
I will try to revisit cyberpunk
You can use Nvidia profile inspector revamped to force the preset/updated DLL, works better than other methods.
Also you need to incorporate more motion tests to upscalers/anti-aliasing methods. Most of these are just holding still
no, it's better to copy/paste DLL and then force preset model in the nvidia app. Works on all single player titles without having to go to Nv inspector just to do a simple gosh darn thing
@sheikhrayan9538 except the nvidia app doesnt support every game, so NVPI has better compatability.
You're also acting as if NVPI is complicated. Just open it, press a button, boom it's done. It's easier than the NVIDIA app, and you dont have to manually swap DLLs for each game
@@Hybred No, you have to manually swap DLLs AND force the preset.
@TheCactuar124 Not true you can turn on globally the override that the Nvidia app uses for updating the DLSS and force it to do this will all DLSS games that have DLSS 2 and up unlike the app which prevents you doing this with some games dispite the fact what I just explained and it works just Nvidia doesn't let you for some reason.
NVidia profile inspector only works starting with DLSS 3.1. The app has limited support now, but is including more games as time passes, and they have all sorts of DLSS implementations.
If I was considering some sort of "set and forget", I'd go with the NVidia app just keeping in mind it won't be all encompassing in the beginning.
I was looking for this video. Thx for the effort
welcome
great stuff man, subscribed keep it up haha
thank you
thanks man really good work and very helpful
welcome
well done comparison! as you said , preset K is newer , so always override in nvidia app with preset K! greetings!
@@soulsborne84 thank you
yes select 'latest' in nvidia app to get K
@@S2GamesBench u sure about the latest option delivers the k?
@elinbarrage9638 yes I checked with Indiana Jones
as of today latest is K, it can change in future if something new comes
@ ok thank u man,wish u had a 40 series gpu so u could check each frame gen versions..
A more detailed comparison of Spider-Man 2 - Preset E vs J vs K vs TAA vs XeSS vs IGTI - RT off on RR off on - 11 different scenes, lots and lots of comparisons - th-cam.com/video/7j1ORN6EsoA/w-d-xo.html
Glad i found your channel , you know where DLSS fucks up and record those parts with zoom
thank you
Your channel is insanely high quality!
thank you
Excellent comparison
thank you
Please do motion clarity test as well. J is 100% better in motion than K.
I have E vs J here - th-cam.com/video/mtP6QbWbfIc/w-d-xo.html
and E vs K here - th-cam.com/video/7j1ORN6EsoA/w-d-xo.html
@@S2GamesBench You are a godsent thank you so much.
so same performance but better quality/less shimmering and ghosting, i guess that makes sense since its K is just an update to J rather than a brand new version like dlss 3 vs 4
Best channel in the world
😁 thank you
Nice comparison 🎉
Thanks 🙂
I tested today chivalry 2(its an EAC online game theres no ban btw) with new nvidia dlss 4 override feature with both preset j and k modes, preset j got shutters and has lots of ghosting issues it was worse than dlss 2 and later i tested k version in dlss performance mode it literally became dlss quality mode with better fps and resolution, i recommend to use newest preset first(which is k for now) later try other presets
nice ! I looking for this video all night (sry bad eg
welcome
You should be in the same league with MxBenchmark and Digital Foundry when it comes to DLSS testing IMO. Hardware Unboxed is overrated and you are criminally underrated.
@@msnehamukherjee wow, thank you
Hardware unboxed has good overarching analysis (like their DLSS vs FSR analysis), but their day 1 takes are literally "graph go br" and I don't really trust them when it comes to ray tracing since their ray tracing video claimed "no change" in quite a few tittles that I see significant changes (sometimes even in their own footage).
I don't know if I would call them "overrated", but their audience is definitely reeks of the "they got 30% uplift with 40 games vs DF which got 29% with 10 games so they're better" their overall approach motivates instead of any sort of holistic take when it comes to these cards.
Nice!👍
Wow and I thought preset j was good k is even better nice!
Best profile J 💚...
Can u make a video showing how to upgrade from j model to k model ?
I used the inspector method to mod the j model and using it with my rtx 3050 and its good ! But seeing you test the new K model make me wanna upgrade to it
you just need new xml file for your inspector app
once you paste new xml file, K will appear in the list
grab this new xml from my discord
ohh and make sure dll 310.2 or higher in use, grab this from techpowerup site
@S2GamesBench Okay ! Thks u so much 😁👌
I NOTICE THAT DLAA IN PRESET J IS BETTER THAN K because i noticed that dlaa in preset k make the scene in far areas looks little bit blurry like the old modul did but preset j is making it sharp
good comparison, did you activate dlss 4 in the nvidia app or with the nvidia profile inspector to preset k?
@@cesarjaimes8309 I use dlsstweaks
sometimes NPI if tweaks doesn't work
Will there be a video comparing the ray reconstruction of preset J and K?
ray reconstruction doesn't have K
@@S2GamesBench Ah, okay
The preset k you enable it in the nvidia inspector or the nvidia app
@@dayanvaldes1349 I have tried both, they both work but not all games show up in nvidia app
NPI must be latest version and also needs new xml file, can be downloaded from my discord
Thaks for the comparison! In FF7 Rebirth weried trees flickering in J preset fix with new uptade?
@@RetroFuturism-f6g yes with new preset K
found in dll 310.2
can be downloaded from techpowerup site and preset change with NPI or dlsstweaks
transformer model insta BSOD's my PC - fresh installs too. Could it be undervolting that causes it?
Nice video. Im late to the story in alan wake and in a flooded area when using K preset i would get strobing lights coming out of objects or foliage. Going back to the default dlss of the now updated game, these lights disappeared
Can you do ultra low res comparisons? The image quality “beats” if you render at like 240p
ty sir you da best
welcome
Preset K is not listed for me, for some reason. Even after updating
In nvidia app?
"Latest" as of now means K
@ I’m glad “latest” means K in nvidia app. A bit confusing since it wasn’t listed in the drop down. Thanks!
So I am guessing it only works with games that support frame generation ? Cause I tried using the Nvidia App with Metro Exodus Enhanced Edition and it says that it's Unsupported ?
nvidia app is bit buggy at the moment
It works with all games that have DLSS
Manually swap dll to 310.2 and then use NPI to force preset to K
i can't change DLSS preset trough Nvidia App in to Silent Hill 2. Do you have same situation guys?
@@anjelomichelangelo7726 yes lot of games don't show up in app
For these games you have to use NPI or dlsstweaks
@@S2GamesBench ah got it. thank you for answer
Hello 👋🙂
Do you have the opportunity to make a comparison using the example of Rdr 2 with the new Dlcc 4 Transformer vs Native model?
Now there is already nvidia app, but as some user say, this application does not always set presets in a specific one. One user told me that in Rdr 2 + Dllc 4 + Nvidia app, Dlaa is set and for some reason ultra-quality appears. I wonder which is better and more correct manually via Dlss tweaker or via Nvidia app.
In general, a video with an example of how to use Nvidia agp would be more useful and interesting than ever to take a look at the user guide. Thank you in advance.
I think for the end user it is best to continue using the manual method and NPI dlsstweaks for the time being.
App is new and buggy, with time it will get better.
If using app you can also use dlsstweaks to enable hud in its global settings and see if all is working correctly, if yes then you can turn it off.
I think nvidia should add hud option in their app too
like we get performance numbers by pressing alt R
@S2GamesBench And what is the Alt+R combination? Under what conditions does it work when you specify a Hud-related option in the dlls tweaker? This is the first time I've heard of it, please explain.
@Rostovgenchik no alt r enables performance metrics, you can try it, it will show you fps, gpu temp clock speed etc
I was wondering if they could add dlss hud to that then it will make things easier
@ Oh, I get it, does the alt + r combination work when you have new drivers installed and the nvidia app is running? Do I understand correctly that Nvidia app comes with the new drivers, or can it be installed separately? By the way, have you tested the new drivers?
@Rostovgenchik I checked few scenes and performance was same with new drivers.
Alt R you can press anytime and performance overlay will show up even when games are not running.
Are you sure for some of these that you were actually using the correct presets? There's a registry edit that will show you which preset you have when you open the game.
@@Bry.89 yes hud is always on
hey so I placed dlss tweaks next to exe file of spidey 2 and also pasted the latest DLL file and set preset to K for DLAA but yet I dont see the dlss tweaks log generated do I have to manually override the DLL file in the tweaks config??
@@shaun.shub2003 did you rename nvngx dll to winmm dll ?
@@S2GamesBench nope I will try that right now
Nice video bro
thank you
hey man! how do i apply dlls 4 to spiderman 2? where do i download and how? thanks
grab latest dll from here - www.techpowerup.com/download/nvidia-dlss-dll/
then overwrite old dll file in your game with one you downloaded
then either use NPI or dlsstweaks to change preset to K
dlsstweaks guide is in pinned comment
Could you possibly do some testing for J vs K for DLAA? (might produce some different results compared to Performance and Quality)
I keep hearing that K is superior, but to my eyes K looks too blurry/introduces some artifacts in face textures, etc. when playing at 1440p DLAA.
J is oversharpened, thats why k is a little ‘blurry’.
@@CheGabba I will try to add it in next video
When I use preset K in Cyberpunk 2077 game in Ultra Performance mode, there is no problem with image loss.
could you try the witcher 3 please? could be dlss 3 vs dlss 4 K version or both DLSS 4 presets
im using dlls 4 preset k on ultra performance and i had great improvements, at 3440x1400p with rtx 3070 ti
HOW i activate TRANSFORMER on rtx 4080 ???
Option 1 - Use Nvidia app.
Option 2 - Grab the new dll 310.2.1.0 from techpowerup - www.techpowerup.com/download/nvidia-dlss-dll/
and overwrite the old ones in your game files
Then either use *latest* version of dlsstweaks or *latest* version of NPI to change preset to K
Is dxgi.dll the new winmm.dll in dlss tweaks ??
dxgi
nvngx
winmm
you can rename to any, whichever name works
try one by one
winmm seems to work mostly these days
nvngx has very low success rate
@@S2GamesBench got it thanks a lot ❤️❤️
What about Silent Hill 2 with quality mode? The artifacts looked awful in performance mode
Edit: Ok I found the other video on your channel, thx for these comparisons
@@Rafael57YT welcome
I don't understand what exactly preset j and preset k do?
they affect image quality and fps, you can change them in nvidia app
Where are the FPS comparision in spiderman 2?
Here - th-cam.com/video/7j1ORN6EsoA/w-d-xo.html
i having rtx3060 how can i enable dlss4 in spider man 2 ?
@@quanariston7612 if you keep ray reconstruction on then select transformer in game settings
if you keep it off then grab latest dll 310.2 from here - www.techpowerup.com/download/nvidia-dlss-dll/
then overwrite old dll file in your game with one you downloaded, this file is in root folder of game
then either use NPI or dlsstweaks to change preset to K
dlsstweaks guide is in pinned comment
All the way with Preset K !
Are you able to run the game with dlss tweaks files in the game's directory? The game will crash for me, the only way to fix the crash is by removing the dlss tweaks files.
yes its not compatible anymore with new drivers
so you need to update dlsstweaks and it will work again
@S2GamesBench ok thank you. I'll download the new update
Just use the new version of DLSS Tweaks
3:48 Does ghosting appear if you use previous dll from cyberpunk?
Is there somewhere info on what all these presents mean?
Like, what's the difference between J and K, or D and F?
@@tomtomkowski7653 Basically DLSS upscaling can be done in various ways
Each way is a preset
Presets affect image quality and performance
as for differences you can check this playlist, every preset to ever exist has been compared here - th-cam.com/play/PLl8LHiAQW21YAAxCOjHe8K_t_qiWacDPb.html
@@S2GamesBench This is way more confusing than it should be if DLLS can only have 4 modes: UltraPerformance, Performance, Balance, and Quality.
@@tomtomkowski7653 those are quality modes, you can change them in game settings to decide what resolution game runs at.
Presets are not same thing, presets decide how DLSS is run
If it is confusing you can use nvidia app and leave it to latest then nvidia will handle everything and you don't have to do anything.
@@tomtomkowski7653 They don't need to be that confusing. If you set it to "latest" on your nvidia app, you will get the best version. Older versions are maintained for backwards compatibility and comparison reasons, but you don't need to interact with them at all.
" notice how the fence shimmers less, amazing next gen graphics and performance, if you look closely there is even more pud in the puddle" .... Nvidia
So 1440p dlss performance is usable now?
yes
Yep in some games for sure, even dlss ultra performance from 4K looks pretty acceptable in some games now for huge fps gains
What is the hexadecimal code for preset K. I'll mod the xml myself for NPI. Is it 0x0000000B?
yes 0x0000000B is Preset K
0x00FFFFFF is for Latest, which it currently is, so either should work
Я даже не знал об этих пресетах, подписался
im getting ghosting and blur still why, i thought this new model fixes that its a joke
In spiderman 2? use preset E for spiderman, J and K seem to have ghosting in this game
Compare DLSS vs no DLSS
Does anyone else think preset J looks better than K in Indiana Jones? K looks a little blurrier/oily
These are my presets... Neither of those are included lol
Preset A: Intended for Performance/Balanced/Quality modes.
Preset B: Intended for Ultra Performance mode.
Preset C: Intended for Performance/Balanced/Quality modes.
Preset D: Intended for Performance/Balanced/Quality modes.
Preset E: The now-default preset for Performance/Balanced/Quality modes.
Preset F: The now-default preset for Ultra Performance and DLAA modes.
Okay, what is the best dlss for quality? RTX4080. In your opinion.
Currently not that simple, while transformers have improved over CNN but there are still some issues like in Spiderman 2 you see ghosting with both J and K while E doesn't have it, however image stability is better with K
In Indiana Jones E has ghosting while J doesn't
So it depends on game what to use.
I noticed in FF 7 rebirth the ocean in junon looks grainy with the J preset. I wonder if that's fixed with the K preset
performance mode in 1440p is like 480p lol
I tried the dlss preset k with the nvidia app override in multiple games, but for example, in marvel rivals, dlss 4 introduces tearing (don't know why) and judder, the original game's dlss does not show the same issues. I know tearing is not linked to dlss but it only happens when i use the override option. (and things on camera does not seem to moove smoothly even though frame time is flat and fps are in gsync range)
Is your monitor gsync compatible if yes then turn it on
so preset K is better
do you know about the fg 4 problem?
th-cam.com/video/2tCPvM4EWYU/w-d-xo.htmlsi=sQyrndvgdy0hw7f5
Ks an improvement over J but still not good with ray tracing 😢 I tried K with the Witcher 3 and the foliage was too fuzzy and could see artifacts around geralts head, I ended up using E preset which is 3.8 Quality by my understanding, big improvement over the original DLSS but would love it if they fixed dlss 4 with ray tracing enabled.
ghost of tsushima looks insane with preset K u should try it