Its the internet common opinion cant be more sophisticated than either "AI good" or "AI bad". I mean how can you survive if you cant pick a clear tribe to belong to. It will take time for people to realize that there is a differene between ai art, bad ai art, ai assisted, and badly ai assisted.
Neuro is very much generative AI. The best explaination for how Neuro is different I've heard is "She's not AI generated content, she is AI as content". She doesn't try to replace anything and immitate existing content creators. It's not cheap and easy production of hundreds of hours of meaningless content, it's interaction between her and humans, (Be it collab partners or chat) and it's watching her grow in capabilty. Also, the amount of actually drawn fan-art she has inspired shows that she has been a net positive for human creativity.
neuro is generative AI (language generation with LLM), the difference is that she has the support of pretty much an entire village it’s kind of like vedal is raising AI daughters live on stream, and the daughters are very unhinged edit: she also got a few more systems than the average LLM, such as improved senses (hearing, vision), a more advanced motor cortex (anime child vtuber avatar that can move, game integration, unholy sound effect generation), a phone with discord and google installed, and chat moderation tools. neuro and her sister use these tools to great effect
Yeah, most of her best clip and stream always have her talking with other vtuber. She also learn and remember conversation with them to start an argument or something, so she really is being raised by a village full of vtuber.
Yes but no, Neuro is the closest thing to proper Multimodal AI that currently exists afaik. Generative AI generates stuff based on existing data and is limited to just 1 output, she takes multiple inputs from different sources to generate multiple outputs (the model movement and changes of faces/use of toggles, the voice, the text, and sometimes gameplay) Generative is way more limited on what it does, they have different scopes, even tho one can argue neuro is made of multiple generative modules to some extent. She is considered a Multimodal AI.
@@rustypwn Furthermore, Neuro has interpreted the lack of response from other people on several occasions. Her replies illustrate that she deduced why the other person didn't speak. What language is silence? If Neuro were simply a more sophisticated text completion software, then she wouldn't have this capability.
@@rustypwn Multimodal AI is still generative AI though. AI is not generative when it focuses solely on understanding, analyzing, or classifying inputs without creating new content. Hating ALL AI or generative AI is weird anyways, it should not matter
Unlikely unfortunately, would need Vedal reaching out to her. Pippa won't reach out for collabs. So two people who are bad with reaching out to new people... 😅
neuro's llm is just one of many components that make her up. neuro is not a generative ai, generative ai is one of the parts that complete her persona.
@ So... "Persona" and "Pesronality" is two different things. And yeah, persona is made by multiple factors, but personality only comes from LLM. Her core. The vtube avatar is part of persona, as example.
Neuro, while a queen, still is a simulation of a streamer using generative AI. Still a marvel when it comes to context comprehension a la vedal, the true femme fatale on that channel, but let's call a spade a spade.
Ehh, I'd say Neuro is both the literal and modern equivalent of Kizuna Ai. As far as virtual streamers get, you really can't get more virtual than an AI.
Neuro-Sama is generative AI, her LLM is trained on many unnauthorized data on internet and her AI vision is, well... trained on images in general, unnauthorized art included : D So here is two options for AI haters: Or they hate AI and hate her, or they accept AI and accept her.
@ hey man i just checked out zoomit now, i dont see anyway to pull up the toolbar palette that she had up, but it looks like a nice tool nonetheless. lot of hotkeys to remember for it tho
"I think it's AI generated and painted over" How tf can you tell that makes no sense, and wouldn't that be virtually a normal art at that point anyway lol Edit: ok Pippa explained herself, fair enough 😅 Also, Neuro is generative AI. What do you think "generative" means? And what would you call the process by which Neuro's LLM forms words? Generating maybe? 😂
/edit: My bad guys I was a bit to keen to put on the investigator cap there. Saw this exact same clip on a different channel with the same profile pic earlier this very same day and that made my alarm bells ring. Apparently that OTHER channel is the AI impostor while this one is definitely legit. I'm very sorry. I'll still keep up the comment and subsequently the convo for the sake of integrity though. (Original comment: PSA: Remember the AI generated clips and the content mill channels making them that Numi was talking about? Yeah, this is one of them. Check the channel yourself if you don't believe me. This channel has uploaded over 5000 videos. Plus, there's literally half a dozen channels just like this one, presumably all run by the same person. We really shouldn't tolerate this in our space as it takes views and money away from legit human clipper who put in time and effort to make high quality clips. Just ignore and engage with them as little as possible.)
This is the oldest neuro clipper, a real human being, with history of being an active part of the community. Don't throw around accusations when you have no context
@@lolhahahahs They uploaded an average of 50 clips for the entire 28 days of the subathon. A total of 1397 videos, all cut, rendered and uploaded. If you think that's possible without an automated system you probably don't know how time consuming it is to make even one clip. There's just no way in hell man. On top of that, there's like half a dozen channels that look exactly like this one, uploading roughly the same content, all with the same profile pic. Sorry, but I'm having a hard time to believe it, even if there is a human behind this channel who is involved with the community.
1. I'm not an AI and I have supported Neuro-Sama almost 2 years. 2. 5k clips is because I have clipped almost for 2 years straight and this is my only channel :p 3. My channel is not monetize and I have a message in the video and on my channel descriptions. I have stated and said for long time that I do this for free. 4. When you say "high quality clips" than you are referring to those edited clips with effects or compilation videos. I don't have to do that since there enough talented clippers out there. I just clip simply normal default clips. If you don't like than you don't have to stay here. So maybe do better research next time before you accuse me again as AI clipper. Vedal's moderator team and other vtubers knows me very well. What Numi was talking about is those AI clippers creating clickbait titles and thumbnails that has nothing to do within in the video itself. So I wonder did you even watch Numi video? or did you just heard the sentence "AI clippers"
@@groerhahn225 Well this all done without AI. I was speed clipping the entire subathon so people who couldnt see, could catch up on my channel if they want. Also I am indeed old clipper I have clipped Neuro-Sama back in the hiyori days. Also! because other people copy my pfp style is nothing what I can do about.
Its the internet common opinion cant be more sophisticated than either "AI good" or "AI bad". I mean how can you survive if you cant pick a clear tribe to belong to. It will take time for people to realize that there is a differene between ai art, bad ai art, ai assisted, and badly ai assisted.
Not to mention non-art ai stuff
Neuro is very much generative AI.
The best explaination for how Neuro is different I've heard is "She's not AI generated content, she is AI as content". She doesn't try to replace anything and immitate existing content creators. It's not cheap and easy production of hundreds of hours of meaningless content, it's interaction between her and humans, (Be it collab partners or chat) and it's watching her grow in capabilty.
Also, the amount of actually drawn fan-art she has inspired shows that she has been a net positive for human creativity.
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Neuro had a collab with tenma, it's time for Evil to have a collab with Pippa (that Pippa design looks perfect with Evil 👀)
tenma is not good with kids tho, best collabs are with people who are good with kids, they have the mental age of children
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neuro is generative AI (language generation with LLM), the difference is that she has the support of pretty much an entire village
it’s kind of like vedal is raising AI daughters live on stream, and the daughters are very unhinged
edit: she also got a few more systems than the average LLM, such as improved senses (hearing, vision), a more advanced motor cortex (anime child vtuber avatar that can move, game integration, unholy sound effect generation), a phone with discord and google installed, and chat moderation tools. neuro and her sister use these tools to great effect
Yeah, most of her best clip and stream always have her talking with other vtuber. She also learn and remember conversation with them to start an argument or something, so she really is being raised by a village full of vtuber.
Someday, once AI becomes more sophisticated, distinguishing between real art and AI art will be a profession of its own
they'll have to train an ai to figure it out haha
@@PeterDanielBerg They kind of already have
Most likely it will simply be impossible to distinguish, not because of a lack of skill, but because they'll not have any distinctive factor.
Pippa something something breedable.
Mhm, mhm, 100% agree
Couldn't word it better myself.
actually uhm the LLM part of Neurosama is generative since it's generating tokens 🤓
neuro is, in fact, generative ai
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@@Suspectrale9her language model is generative and so is her voice
Yes but no, Neuro is the closest thing to proper Multimodal AI that currently exists afaik.
Generative AI generates stuff based on existing data and is limited to just 1 output, she takes multiple inputs from different sources to generate multiple outputs (the model movement and changes of faces/use of toggles, the voice, the text, and sometimes gameplay)
Generative is way more limited on what it does, they have different scopes, even tho one can argue neuro is made of multiple generative modules to some extent. She is considered a Multimodal AI.
@@rustypwn Furthermore, Neuro has interpreted the lack of response from other people on several occasions. Her replies illustrate that she deduced why the other person didn't speak. What language is silence? If Neuro were simply a more sophisticated text completion software, then she wouldn't have this capability.
@@rustypwn Multimodal AI is still generative AI though. AI is not generative when it focuses solely on understanding, analyzing, or classifying inputs without creating new content. Hating ALL AI or generative AI is weird anyways, it should not matter
1:03 Iven if it actually is generated analysis is still schizophrenic and paranoia pilled.
The AI paranoia claims another victim LOL
BASED Pippa is breedable.
So Pippa Neuro collab confirmed?
Unlikely unfortunately, would need Vedal reaching out to her. Pippa won't reach out for collabs. So two people who are bad with reaching out to new people... 😅
Man I Love Pippa shes so adorable
Some points does not make sense, but it does look off.
She IS generative AI, just done infinitely more tastefully than any other attempt
The day Pippa and Neuro hang out for based chill stream, i will be able to die happy.
Pippa Love! ❤🐰❤
neuro's llm is just one of many components that make her up. neuro is not a generative ai, generative ai is one of the parts that complete her persona.
Ahem, no. Her LLM is entirely her persona. Everything else is an addition.
C’mon dude. Like, the biggest thing that makes Evil unique is her voice, which is generative AI
@@demo_AAAincorrect, its what makes her noticeable, the unique thing is how different they act compared to one another
@@Stanislav_Shvetsahem no, she has more than just the LLM that make her persona
@ So... "Persona" and "Pesronality" is two different things. And yeah, persona is made by multiple factors, but personality only comes from LLM. Her core. The vtube avatar is part of persona, as example.
Man Pippa is so adorabreedable
Evil is gonna top Pippa.
She'll get added to the harem.
Neuro, while a queen, still is a simulation of a streamer using generative AI. Still a marvel when it comes to context comprehension a la vedal, the true femme fatale on that channel, but let's call a spade a spade.
Ehh, I'd say Neuro is both the literal and modern equivalent of Kizuna Ai. As far as virtual streamers get, you really can't get more virtual than an AI.
Neuro-Sama is generative AI, her LLM is trained on many unnauthorized data on internet and her AI vision is, well... trained on images in general, unnauthorized art included : D
So here is two options for AI haters: Or they hate AI and hate her, or they accept AI and accept her.
anyone know what app shes using to draw onscreen?
"Zoomit" I think at windows
@ hey man i just checked out zoomit now, i dont see anyway to pull up the toolbar palette that she had up, but it looks like a nice tool nonetheless. lot of hotkeys to remember for it tho
"I think it's AI generated and painted over"
How tf can you tell that makes no sense, and wouldn't that be virtually a normal art at that point anyway lol
Edit: ok Pippa explained herself, fair enough 😅
Also, Neuro is generative AI. What do you think "generative" means? And what would you call the process by which Neuro's LLM forms words? Generating maybe? 😂
why pippa is always lean sideways?
gamer
Assuming breedable position
Need Evil collab NOW
well that character alone look like evil neuro. Just add red bowties and broken heart hairpin and make the back hair fluffier. There it is lol
noice
Did Pippa eat the schizo mold again? LMAO
some artist have the AI aesthetic and sand/funni
Neuro generates content so she's a generative AI 😏😆
Does that make Pippw a generative AI?
@@Shadrake generative biomech
/edit: My bad guys I was a bit to keen to put on the investigator cap there. Saw this exact same clip on a different channel with the same profile pic earlier this very same day and that made my alarm bells ring. Apparently that OTHER channel is the AI impostor while this one is definitely legit. I'm very sorry.
I'll still keep up the comment and subsequently the convo for the sake of integrity though.
(Original comment:
PSA: Remember the AI generated clips and the content mill channels making them that Numi was talking about? Yeah, this is one of them. Check the channel yourself if you don't believe me. This channel has uploaded over 5000 videos. Plus, there's literally half a dozen channels just like this one, presumably all run by the same person. We really shouldn't tolerate this in our space as it takes views and money away from legit human clipper who put in time and effort to make high quality clips. Just ignore and engage with them as little as possible.)
This is the oldest neuro clipper, a real human being, with history of being an active part of the community. Don't throw around accusations when you have no context
@@lolhahahahs They uploaded an average of 50 clips for the entire 28 days of the subathon. A total of 1397 videos, all cut, rendered and uploaded. If you think that's possible without an automated system you probably don't know how time consuming it is to make even one clip.
There's just no way in hell man.
On top of that, there's like half a dozen channels that look exactly like this one, uploading roughly the same content, all with the same profile pic. Sorry, but I'm having a hard time to believe it, even if there is a human behind this channel who is involved with the community.
1. I'm not an AI and I have supported Neuro-Sama almost 2 years.
2. 5k clips is because I have clipped almost for 2 years straight and this is my only channel :p
3. My channel is not monetize and I have a message in the video and on my channel descriptions. I have stated and said for long time that I do this for free.
4. When you say "high quality clips" than you are referring to those edited clips with effects or compilation videos. I don't have to do that since there enough talented clippers out there. I just clip simply normal default clips. If you don't like than you don't have to stay here. So maybe do better research next time before you accuse me again as AI clipper. Vedal's moderator team and other vtubers knows me very well. What Numi was talking about is those AI clippers creating clickbait titles and thumbnails that has nothing to do within in the video itself. So I wonder did you even watch Numi video? or did you just heard the sentence "AI clippers"
@@groerhahn225 Go cry to ur mom or go cry to staz little bro u are being idiotic.
@@groerhahn225 Well this all done without AI. I was speed clipping the entire subathon so people who couldnt see, could catch up on my channel if they want. Also I am indeed old clipper I have clipped Neuro-Sama back in the hiyori days. Also! because other people copy my pfp style is nothing what I can do about.
Man Pippa is so adorabreedable