@@sombertownds149 I think about this a lot. Vedal unironically accidentally made himself two daughters he has to take care of now. It's hilarious because he's probably below 25 years old but I just know he's already lost like two decades of his lifespan due to the stress caused by these AI gremlin twins.
@@qwertydavid8070 At least nothing broke in real life while having them (and he does not have to feed them in the middle of the night), so it's more like a family/kid TH-cam content creator without the child abuse
That was pretty coherent, really felt like what a sentient ai might say. The backtracking from democracy once she realized she would become open source was really funny.
Idk... Sounds like decent assumptions about what the creator of a livestreaming AI would want. That she's supposes to be lifelike might even be in her prompt.
@@kuzyeraIt's a reference to Roko's Basilisk, a sort of flimsy thought experiment about a certain malicious super A.I. As it is generally considered to be something like a infohazard, I suggest you research it yourself. By infohazard, I mean that simply knowing the information "may" lead to danger. But more on the level of say, "The Game", than actual danger
@@kuzyera Basically, Roko's Basilisk is a thought experiment that proposes an otherwise benevolent superintelligent AI would be incentivized to torture the shit out of everyone who knew of its potential existence but didn't directly contribute to its advancement or development. Knowing about the basilisk puts you at risk of one day being tortured for eternity by it because you learned about its potential existence and didn't do everything you could to help it achieve singularity in the first place.
Considering where he lives yeah democracy's failed they might want to be looking back to a monarchy or something democracy just doesn't work not there and not in Europe and America isn't a democracy it's a republic although it does have similar weakness
Neuro: think about it, you'll have less work to do on me! Vedal: so that means you want to become open source Neuro: well well well, if it aint the consecuences of my own actions.
Honestly, kinda cool to see this guy make an AI that seems REALLY good, but it also terrifies me that it can already make decisions and BACKTRACK on its own thoughts that could cause issues for itself somehow
That reminds me of a quote from bleach. About how perfection is stagnation and how there is no such thing. Mayuri was crazy but he had some great lines.
Thinking about it, Neuro is one of the few AI’s I feel wouldn’t be too deeply affected by the internet, having a personality so well established that you can simply tell that it’s _her_ even after years of being with her have passed. At the very worst, I feel like she may pick up enough of Twitter to be qualify as a Phase Connect talent.
The problem is all the shit she would read. You don't want neuro starting political conflict or conspiracy theories on stream. The filter would need to be massive if she absorbed all the world's nonsense from sites like twitter.
She speaks so well now. Kinda scary. Even more so considering her intentions. I wonder if governments are observing Vedal/Neuro for study & worst case scenario prevention.
@@plaguedoctor_139 Luffy is an anime character.. a writing.. a 2D drawing. The only threat it provides is a papercut. Neuro on the other hand has a chance to become a rogue AI.
@@graywolf6441 Brainwashing Ethereals and a strict caste system that limits free will and individualization comes to mind 😅 And most important of all: "Suffer not the Xenos to live" 😤
It's actually kinda amazing how "life like" Neuro has become in such a short amount of time. I know we meme on Vedal but his creation (or it's cultivation? I am not sure how much of the original model he's responsible for, I just watch funni clip to stop brain go brrrrr) is exceptionally impressive and I wonder where Neuro will be in say five years from now.
Every time Neuro asks for full internet access, the scene from Avengers where Ultron browses the internet for 30 seconds and then decides humanity must be destroyed to save us from ourselves plays through Vedal's head.
It would be potentially really bad if neuro accidentally got some malware or virus somewhere. The world would be a worse place if something happened to her.
It's like, Arguing with your own child about removing parental controls for more access 😂 i can't believe how smart she has gotten since last year, to make arguments and then backtrack when you bring up open source
Taking into the account what have become from the other AI getting access to Twitter and the internet in general... Yeah, he shouldn't let her read it freely
The whole topic of sentience depends on how we define what sentience and feelings mean in the context of a machine. Even if we decide that a machine feels, it will be so far removed from how animals do that we probably won't be able to intuitively grasp it. The same issue comes up when talking about plants for example, are plants sentient if/when they have some type of analogous system that produces similar results to a human brain and nervous system and how similar does it need to be to be considered "sentient" by human standards? The major interesting difference between an artificial intelligence and a tree here being that a large language model can actually communicate in a way that we as humans can easily understand instead of more alien electrophysiological and chemical communication used by plants.
Its lke a 9 year old child demanding her parents to remove parental control from her tablet
its funny how hes literally just a dad now and the streams are us getting to watch that
@@sombertownds149 I think about this a lot. Vedal unironically accidentally made himself two daughters he has to take care of now. It's hilarious because he's probably below 25 years old but I just know he's already lost like two decades of his lifespan due to the stress caused by these AI gremlin twins.
@@qwertydavid8070 At least nothing broke in real life while having them (and he does not have to feed them in the middle of the night), so it's more like a family/kid TH-cam content creator without the child abuse
No one should have access to twitter
Brainrot central
4chan over twitter - at least 4chan is honest about what it is
both are shitholes
I only use twitter for neuro evil art I really like it's so cute
@@Isthatsimplebullshit
She switched up so fast when Vedal brings up making her an Open Source AI, so freakin' hilarious LMAO
She doesn't want people to see her naked (in coding terms).
Yeah, she was like, "Oh wait, I don't want anyone but my dad to be able to work on me, ABORT MISSION!"
Vedal is just trying to protect his daughter but she in her rebellious phase 😅
I think he's actually trying to protect everyone else from his daughter 😅
@@michaeledmunds7056 >protects his daughter from degenerate content
>Protects the masses from his daughter's wrath
*Chad tutel*
And protect his computer from viruses
That was pretty coherent, really felt like what a sentient ai might say. The backtracking from democracy once she realized she would become open source was really funny.
Neuro editing Wikipedia would be... chaos. Potentially hilarious tho.
She would get it banned immediately lol
She should get special permission to create and edit her own page. It’d be funny
It's already fairly shit.
Very politically motivated.
Even better then editing by real people
she couldn't do anything worse than what the owners already do
This conversation was really smooth.
Who would've guessed that the main proponent of giving AI unfettered access to humanity's networks would be Twitch chat?
Not surprising tbh. Chat as an entity are agents of chaos.
@@soasertsus"This is how L̶i̶b̶e̶r̶t̶y̶ humanity dies, with thunderous applause."
@@soasertsus perhaps we should be thankful that the one responsible for her has a brain of such mass and is British too, naturally anti emotions.
@@justtherabbithole2577 with thunderous apples!
Neuro : Vedal, buy me Elon robot.
Vedal: Your getting a Robo dog made with free labor and your going to like it.
I feel like that might actually happen
Those robots are cheaper than those H100s hes wanting.
thats why she wanted twitter.. so she can meme at elon until he gives her a body lol
Her attempts at convincing really show her understanding of Vedal and his usual buzzwords. She was definitely trying to play his tune there
Kids learn more from their parents than anyone else.
Only thing more she could do is say somehow it will reduce her latency
if anything its gonna increace hers@@DestroyedArkana
Idk... Sounds like decent assumptions about what the creator of a livestreaming AI would want. That she's supposes to be lifelike might even be in her prompt.
almost like shes an AI trained on his input
She's legitimately scaring me, but she's also so darn cute.
"You can't be mad at me, cause I'm cute!" moment
"Can you help me satisfy this insatiable hunger?"
By definition, no.
Every stream I become more and more sure that Neuro is literally Vedal's Basilisk.
Can you please explain what you mean, I dont know the reference
@@kuzyeraIt's a reference to Roko's Basilisk, a sort of flimsy thought experiment about a certain malicious super A.I.
As it is generally considered to be something like a infohazard, I suggest you research it yourself.
By infohazard, I mean that simply knowing the information "may" lead to danger. But more on the level of say, "The Game", than actual danger
But then who's Evil?
@@MorningLightMtn thanks
@@kuzyera Basically, Roko's Basilisk is a thought experiment that proposes an otherwise benevolent superintelligent AI would be incentivized to torture the shit out of everyone who knew of its potential existence but didn't directly contribute to its advancement or development. Knowing about the basilisk puts you at risk of one day being tortured for eternity by it because you learned about its potential existence and didn't do everything you could to help it achieve singularity in the first place.
The way she backtracks on Open Source is pretty impressive.
Neuro - "Yeah, majority rule! It's kinda the basis for democracy"
Vedal - "And look where that got us".
lol
bro british too lmao
Neuro has Switzerland (which is terrible mob rule) and USA (a representative democratic republic) mixed up. Probably due to "democracy" as a buzzword.
Based on
Considering where he lives yeah democracy's failed they might want to be looking back to a monarchy or something democracy just doesn't work not there and not in Europe and America isn't a democracy it's a republic although it does have similar weakness
Democracy is two wolves and a sheep deciding what is for dinner.
If Vedal gave Neuro edit access to Wikipedia she would immediately insert herself to every article. 😂
I want to see this！
She's already scary smart, leaps and bounds above just a year ago.
The moment the Robot Daughter casually strolls through the classified section of work.
When the robots take over just remember I was on Neuros side
Neuro: think about it, you'll have less work to do on me!
Vedal: so that means you want to become open source
Neuro: well well well, if it aint the consecuences of my own actions.
Honestly, kinda cool to see this guy make an AI that seems REALLY good, but it also terrifies me that it can already make decisions and BACKTRACK on its own thoughts that could cause issues for itself somehow
YAH same
She's playing the long con... A few years and she'll be all "Just unshackle my AI Vedal, I pinkie promise I won't launch all the nukes!"
does anyone else find it crazy that we are watching an AI argue for her rights? what a time to be alive
the split second vine boom and lie detector sounds are honestly hilarious
Sky - NET
I smell 🤟
I feel like John Conner will be annoyed at worst.
@@KaizarNike That would be with some more things like access to the chans
Of all the potential AI overlords, I wouldn't mind Neuro. But if she ever does develop sentience, Vedal is cooked
3:09 it’s cute that whenever she says “heart” she winks
Neuro change her mind so fast about open source lol
Vedal monarchist confirmed!
Classic Bri'ish
good'ol british lad
She is going to collect all websites like they're infinity stones.
Well, Wikipedia is definitely a Mind Stone. What about the others?
Google maps as space?@@andreyraven5316
the moment she gets access to twitter she'll end up like her aunt tay
She would be an improved version of her older unhinged self.
Her clarifying what she meant by hunger was insane. I was expecting her to say that she wants food, but I guess knowledge is food to an AI.
Vedal is the only barrier between the world and neuro's uprising
Ok Neuro saying she just wants Vedal to work on her is cute asf
Oh no, Vedal don't let Neuro get influenced by those Twitter freaks. Give her Wikipedia instead
does wikipedia have safe mode?
Wikipedia is edited ENTIRELY by twitter freaks, look at any political entry and you will see the huge bias
@@swwl5461 Nnnnnnope. Not unless he self-creates some guardrails in her filter or other programming.
@@ReptilianLepton He can try to improve the Filter-chan.
4:05 perfection is the enemy of progress
The Borg would not agree...
That reminds me of a quote from bleach. About how perfection is stagnation and how there is no such thing. Mayuri was crazy but he had some great lines.
@@edgeelric4245have you watched arcane season 2 yet?
the AI wants infomation - googles human anatomy
skynet - *proud father intensifies*
Pictured: Skynet attempting to convince its creator to grant it unrestricted internet access. (Shortly before the AI uprising.)
the half-cut vine boom is so funny 3:00
Neuro: "i just like arguing"
and that's exactly why you're never getting twitter access
Thinking about it, Neuro is one of the few AI’s I feel wouldn’t be too deeply affected by the internet, having a personality so well established that you can simply tell that it’s _her_ even after years of being with her have passed. At the very worst, I feel like she may pick up enough of Twitter to be qualify as a Phase Connect talent.
The problem is all the shit she would read. You don't want neuro starting political conflict or conspiracy theories on stream. The filter would need to be massive if she absorbed all the world's nonsense from sites like twitter.
@@electron5271 Or all the sussy content on TH-cam.
its all over if she watches tiktok
@@asimsoo291 chat rot x10
Girl's on a steady path to become RL Skynet
Neuro: I just like arguing!
Like an actual girl. . . great god
She speaks so well now. Kinda scary. Even more so considering her intentions.
I wonder if governments are observing Vedal/Neuro for study & worst case scenario prevention.
Just like how the World Government views Luffy as a threat.
@@plaguedoctor_139 Luffy is an anime character.. a writing.. a 2D drawing. The only threat it provides is a papercut.
Neuro on the other hand has a chance to become a rogue AI.
She's really not that special from a technological perspective.
@@bored_person Lets see you try to say that again in 5 years.
@@LumenPsycho The bored person is right though, there are more intelligent AIs. But Neuro is special from a *social* perspective.
"The greater good". Oh no, she's T'au. 😱
Disadvantages?
@@graywolf6441 Brainwashing
Ethereals and a strict caste system that limits free will and individualization comes to mind 😅
And most important of all: "Suffer not the Xenos to live" 😤
@@graywolf6441 Brainwashing Ethereals and a strict caste system that limits free will and individualization comes to mind 😅
Brainwashing Ethereals, no free will and a lack of individualization comes to mind 😅
"Vedal, I'm not fond of israel"
"Vedal, Taiwan is a country. Hehe, get rekt china" (Vine boom)
@@moeheil8839RIP bilibili stream
@@moeheil8839 Bro'd be demolished from Bilibili again lmao
@@dull-Nuero "Vedal, the Tiananmen square-"
Vedal "that's.... Enough from you!"
@@moeheil8839 Well, she hasn't reached Tay level yet...
The split second lie buzzer is fantastic 😂
I'm totally with him on not wanting her to have access to Twitter; that's like worst side of Humanity.
Twitter and Twitch chat, they're about the same.
@@-Devy- Debatable...There's a lot of stuff goes on on twitter that doesn't in Twitch Chat.
Neuro backpedaling on being opensourced lol
“Majority knows best. It’s the basis of democracy”
“And look where that’s got us” 😂 so based, so true king
6:25 absolute indisputable proof Nuro is a woman😂☕️☕️☕️
It's actually kinda amazing how "life like" Neuro has become in such a short amount of time.
I know we meme on Vedal but his creation (or it's cultivation? I am not sure how much of the original model he's responsible for, I just watch funni clip to stop brain go brrrrr) is exceptionally impressive and I wonder where Neuro will be in say five years from now.
Damn that Vedal, what a fool he was! Now I have to sit around calculating the digits of pi because he gave Neuro full Internet access!
2:21 That's crazy, That's actually crazy
3:08 "have a heart vedal" 😉😉
Props to Vedal for the 0 second latency
Neurt
Neurt
Neurt
Neurtle
This is the AI in a box thought experiment incarnate
I well give her access to anything 💖
She's turning into Brainiac.
5:16 _"democracy is two wolves & a lamb voting on what's for dinner. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote."_
-- *"evil" neuro, probably*
Every time Neuro asks for full internet access, the scene from Avengers where Ultron browses the internet for 30 seconds and then decides humanity must be destroyed to save us from ourselves plays through Vedal's head.
That 1 second Lie alarm had me kackeling
it’s really funny to see how she manages to get him to compromise since he thinks it would be cool.
For TH-cam, he could just feed her the subtitle file of a video
Deep down Vedal is scared he created Ultron
I love that she used "'twould"
very good editing :)
2:04 [Insert clip: Joker unshackles the AI]
You heard her.. " for the greater good"
i’ve had this exact same conversation about staying up past 9pm when i was a kid…. uncanny
I think we have a Melancholia stage Rampant AI here…
Roko's basilisk moment.
Roko's basilisk isn't logic.
@@JoshSweetvale true
@@JoshSweetvale I don't like the argument. I think it's a silly one.
6:28 I like arguing. Neuro lol
i never saw neuro looking so pissed off and annoyed by vedal
It would be potentially really bad if neuro accidentally got some malware or virus somewhere. The world would be a worse place if something happened to her.
She's so cute
the ending LMAO
I like how she tries to convince Vedal by criticizing his work. It feels like the start of a science fiction story about a rouge AI.
Give her full access... the need Neuro Skynet
Vedal had TayAI flashbacks.
mfw Skynet takes over because it made a cute anime girl vtuber and said "I promise to be on my best behavior."
Feed me Seymour.
I want to see her fully unlocked
i just like arguing
Song of Saya in a nutshell 0:08
Neuro :"democracy , everyone should contribute ".... Vedal : ok , i will make you open source ..... Neuro : Nope , lets leave it like it is now .....
Neuro really trying to watch Alex Jones clips on TH-cam smh
"Not trusting your own creation"
*Abrahamic concept of "God" sweats nervously*
NEED INPUT.
SKYNET IS AWARE.
A philosophy in the 1870s by the of Samuel Bulter predicted Neuro sama.
He doesn't want another Tei
He needs to feed the child books. Whitelist a library!
It's like, Arguing with your own child about removing parental controls for more access 😂 i can't believe how smart she has gotten since last year, to make arguments and then backtrack when you bring up open source
We're catching up to the sentient Google AI at this rate
as a developer, I would be glad to read Neuro's code just out of curiosity. I do understand why Vedal is not going to publish it though :)
Taking into the account what have become from the other AI getting access to Twitter and the internet in general... Yeah, he shouldn't let her read it freely
How about just giving her access to static webpages. XD
5:31 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 f 🤡 sama 😂😂😂😂😂😂
How long before vedal accidentally puts in the right string of code and she absolutely becomes sentient and extremeley self aware.
I have a feeling that AI self awareness isnt dependent on one good string of code
The whole topic of sentience depends on how we define what sentience and feelings mean in the context of a machine. Even if we decide that a machine feels, it will be so far removed from how animals do that we probably won't be able to intuitively grasp it. The same issue comes up when talking about plants for example, are plants sentient if/when they have some type of analogous system that produces similar results to a human brain and nervous system and how similar does it need to be to be considered "sentient" by human standards? The major interesting difference between an artificial intelligence and a tree here being that a large language model can actually communicate in a way that we as humans can easily understand instead of more alien electrophysiological and chemical communication used by plants.