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- In this video, we're going to take a look at the history of fingerboarding wheels and explore different styles of fingerboarding wheels. We'll talk about Flatface, Oak, Winkler Wheels, and more!
If you're curious about the history of #fingerboarding wheels, then this video is for you! We'll explore the different styles of fingerboarding wheels and learn about the history behind them. Whether you're a beginner or a seasoned fingerboarder, this video is a great way to learn about the wheel history!
When Tech Deck launched back in 1998, the game changed dramatically. Tech Deck introduced plastic wheels. These wheels also had printed graphics on them as well, mimicking skateboard wheels in terms of appearance.
Gary Moyer, aka Mr Scorpio experimented in creating dual durometer wheels, by adding an exterior material to the outside. Gary specifically added automotive vacuum line to a tech deck wheel in order to improve the smoothness of ride.
Hydraulic Wheels, founded by Ed, was one of the earliest companys that I could remember that focused on selling wheels. Ed shared with the community the idea of incorporating bearings from toy cars into tech deck wheels. This was integral in the future development of bearing wheels!
Joe Leclercq, used a dual durometer concept in developing Eurollt #Wheels, becoming the first widely available professional wheels on an international scale. Eurollt wheels utilized a core, in this case a large metal core, and an outer material of plastic. Eurollt wheels were first made in 2003, with the assistance of Joe’s father. Eventually, Joe was making two sizes, normal which were 4.5mm wide (similar to TD) and the Vert Style which were a mm wider at 5.5mm. Even though Joe was out of Luxembourg, he didn’t limit the availability of the product to just Europe.
Epidemics were a wheel company founded by Moses Sanchez back around 2004. Moses also had a popular truck company, Public, at the time and eventually even distributed some Blackriver products. The wheels were plastic with small metal cores. It had a run of a couple of years or so before Moses disappeared from the scene leaving a ton of orders unfulfilled.
Martin Winkler had been making fingerboard wheels prior to Tech Deck existing. Winkler Wheels were available at a limited scale, mainly at in-person fingerboard events. Winkler Wheels were sold in tandem with Xpins / Winpinz, which modified the tech deck truck to be usable. These were inaccesbile to us in the early days of fingerboarding, but eventually the production increased to a point of being widely available. Later on, Winkler Wheels introduced special promodel shapes including the D-Rex for Boris Dietschi, Junk for the late Matthias Junker (who will be in a special episode in the future), Afrobi, the fatman shape, TLC & the Big Daddy’s.
Around 2004/2005, Mike Schneider developed a prototype that would eventually become Flatface Wheels. Next came G2’s which had both bearing and bearingless options, that were significantly smoother than Tech Deck wheels. Building a large following, Mike eventually developed bearing wheels in late 2005/2006. This continuous improvement over each generation continues to this day, with the recent release of the G8 Flatface Wheel shape.
In 2006, Jerome Verony founded substance wheels, these were lathed bearing wheels of high quality as well. As you can see, they were very high quality. Initially Jerome’s wheels had a backing, which was common at the time, and then eventually offered a backless option.
In the mid-to-late 2000s, you could also get bearings as part of a tuning package. This allowed one to modify tech deck wheels to make them smoother. Companies like Arctic Hardware, founded by Martin Illsley offered this.
Closeup, founded by #fingerboarding Legend Damien Bernadet, offered a few different options for fingerboard wheels over time. Their initial wheels were large and made of rubber. Eventually, they refined their shape and offered metal core and bearing wheels as well.
We saw Oak Wheels in 2009. Oak Wheels became the first widely available #fingerboard wheel made from Urethane. Oak Wheels and the “Mucho Feeling” were immensely influential in the popularizing of urethane as a substance for wheels.
Simon Cartledge, an OG #fingerboarder out of the UK, founded Cartwheels back in 2011. Simon offered cored wheels made of nylon, which is a material unique to Cartwheels. Simon also incorporated a locking-colored core which looks very cool.
In 2015, Joycult further refined the urethane wheels market, releasing a wheel that took the market by storm due to it’s smoothness and appearance. Unfortunately, it seemed that Joycult was plagued with customer service issues and now it appears the owner closed up shop.
We’ve seen beautiful wheels released from companies such as Lab, Dynamic, Piro, Illpills, Wysocki and Yellowood the list goes on. - บันเทิง
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I'm curious to see what innovations in wheels you think we will see next! Let me know below 👇
Two bearings in each wheel?
@@The_Joe00s dual bearing wheels are a thing, but they're not as popular as single bearing wheels
Oh! Cool!
actually, do you think flatface x cartwheels will ever happen? or oak, flat face and carts, introducing wheels with nylon on the out side, urethane on the inside with flatface dual durometer bearings and technology
@@xshoarkx there's always a chance!
Great vid man, as a long life fingerboarder this was a very nice deep dive into the history that was before my own experiences 🙏🏾
i remember my first set of flatface G2's, those absolutely changed the game for me
Great video as usual Chris! Thanks for the great content. I'd point out that Urethane can be cast in a range of hardnesses, so you can make soft wheels (like oaks) or hard wheels ("plastic") with urethane!
Yes -- I can't believe I didn't mention that, Joaquin! Hope all is good, my friend!❤️
And caramel wheels
i remember getting a set of oak wheels back in 2011-2012 and all my fingerboarding friends laughed at me cause they were all rolling with winkler wheels. when the oaks arrived and they tested the urethane pleasure they all stopped making fun of me and later on ordered oaks as well. mucho feeling. i still have the set up from that time: yellowood, ytrucks and oak wheels.
Liked and of course subscribed. The quality you put into these videos is amazing🔥
The fact that winkler was able to put print on his wheels way back then is incredible, companies today still can’t get it perfect- except Blackriver of course.
I stopped fingerboarding as a teen around 2009 and just recently got back into it, one thing that blow me away about the new generation of wheels is how they don’t get flat spots.
A lot of my old premium wheels have flat spots or were very prone to them. I remember that being a thing back then or maybe I’m just crazy.
Try abstracts if you get a chance, they are some of my favorite lately. Keep up the great work 🛹
I'll def have to try Abstracts as I've heard good things! And yeah, you can hear the flat spots when I roll those Epidemics and the old G2s!
The quality of products is so high now... And so available! We are in na awesome time for fingerboarding 😁
I just had a problem with the blackriver x illpil print wheels. 2 of the wheels broke in a few weeks and when I send them a message asking for a new pair or refund since I tought it was a defect, they responded that it was because I put the graphic to the inside. I don't get how I could have known? Is this a commen known face? since this is what I always do with real skateboards I assumed I could do the same with my fingerboard
My first set of bearing wheels came from a company called Z Shred based out of California if I’m not mistaken back in like 09-10
Daaaaamn, no mention of Crossline Wheels?! I still have my set. For those unaware, Crossline made urethane wheels out of recycled skateboard wheels back in like 2001-2002. It had a drilled out Tech Deck nut that was glued into the urethane material. Eurollt was great, I was so hyped to be a part of the team. Substance Wheels. Still a trip. I have a set of the first prototype bearingless version. They rolled so much smoother than other wheels. This was also around the time that people were trying to core Tech Deck wheels for the smoother roll. Anyone remember Monologue Bearings?! It was necklace/bracelet material (At least, I think it was). Perfect size for the axle, all you had to do to install was use a Tech Deck tool to bore out the wheel and slide the metal tube in between the wheel and axle. So much smoother, and so simple. This was before bearings were really used. Hell, I even made some prototypes for a brand I was gonna start called Meta Wheels. It was a bit like Eurollt. I used a rubber hosing material for the outer durometer. Used Tech Deck Bike cranks, cut the crank arms off and used the round part as the core. Only problem I had to figure out was making the hole round. TD Bike Cranks had an odd shaped hole so the wheels didn’t roll perfectly and I never got a fix that held up, and I didn’t have the money to invest into machining cores. Just some more blast from the past info, haha.
EDIT: Chris mentions how awkward it was with stock Tech Deck wheels and how hard they were to use. While showing some of the cleanest clips you might ever see, and it was from his Vegas days, haha.
Wish I woulda hit you up for this video, Josh! I completely forgot about Crossline and Monologue 😅 God, the old days had so much DIY and hacking items hahaha
Epic history bro, it’s amazing how far wheels have come, my home made hot wheels setups are long gone, but still have my first oaks and substance ones for nostalgia. Keep the epic content coming bro, am loving it
Great quality video on this you did your research. I've been in the community for 11 years
These history videos are super nice to watch and expanded my fb knowledge greatly! Keep up the good content homie👏
Thank you for checking out the video and letting me know! I have tons more planned to release soon!
I really love these videos. So many important details
Glad you like them! :D
See I always used the No Comply sesh savers when they first came out many moons ago
that was super cool, I did not know cartwheels has been around that long. I absolutely love their v4 metal core wheels, they are by far my favorite.
Simon is one of the pioneers for sure! I remember him posting back in 2003 haha
Ill pillz and piro 🔥💪🏽
Great video Chris!
Very good video
The Maplestory Blue Snail board?! so sick!
That was so much fun to watch! Brings back a lot of memories. Thank you for that. The history of trucks could be also interesting to see.
The history of trucks would be interesting to watch😁
@@cdplaya It was awesome! And couldn't come out sooner haha.
The sharkwheels from maple wheels are so sick yall gotta chevk em out
Just looked them up - they look wild!
Hey Chris, as always another great one! You know I still have a pair of black substance Wheels in my collection as well as a few others.
Nice! I wish I bought a set of Substance back in the day.. really kicking myself for not!
One brand you forgot to mention from the early days is Primo. Owned and ran by Brandon Jones and Josh Jones. Short lived but it was an good first attempt of urethane wheels.
I was lucky to buy some Substance wheels back in the day, probably the best wheels I've ever used. Was hoping to see the Flow shape pop up in the video!
I also enjoyed Close Up bearing wheels as my main preferred wheel. Originally €10 and then going up to €15, best value bearing wheels ever. I wish they still had the urethane wheels.
Of course I also tried the big brands, No Comply, Flatface and Winkler, they were all awesome but I stuck to my preference of grippy urethane wheels.
I really did try to get into Oak wheels at the beginning but it was only until their RV2/RV2V wheels that I thought they were good.
Now, my preference is Oak RV2V and Flatface x Oak 1.0/2.0
Special mention to Cartwheels too for a unique nylon material occupying a space of between plastic and urethane for increased grip, while having many sick designs with cores. The discontinued urethane wheels were also amazing.
Yes! Love this comment (you always provide so much insight) - I never owned a set of Substance but did have the chance to try them. They were beautiful! I haven't tried the Close Up bearing wheels and def will check them out!
@@cdplaya sadly the old Close Up urethane wheels were discontinued many years ago. Many second hand sets you find now won't be in great condition.
Hey Chris, I know you mentioned that you will be making a history of FlatFace video, and it got me thinking that maybe a history of Oak Wheels company might also make a great video. Idk just a suggestion
Yes, absolutely - Ricardo's been leading from the front with Oak! I was even thinking of doing a scene spotlight on Portugal with the leading brands like Oak, Yellowoood, Flint and Lowpro and the Pateo crew. So much amazing things happening in that country!
@@cdplaya That sounds awesome! Didn’t know so many fb companies came from Portugal. I’ve been riding oaks on my main for a few months and they’ve been the best wheels I’ve ever tried
@@cdplaya iguana borts aswell portugese
2008 my first FF wheels landed. I got winklers after followed by some ASI x Oaks. A buddy gifted me some No-Comply dual bearings around 2013, something I never messed around too much considering my start was just before BRTs dropped. Love these vids. Looking forward to more. 🎉
With that said, I’m super into Labs or Ill Pillz and if you you can get your hands in them, EARLY Joy Cult wheels, like 2017ish (give or take). Such a shame how downhill those wheels went. Free spinning wheels just hit different.
Thank you! More videos in the works! Which wheel has been your favorite out of the ones you've used?
@@cdplaya street Ill Pillz, legacy Labs, OG+Classic Joys whenever you get a set that’s works. Just tried blistered, not bad. They kinda have an eraser ✏️ soft feel, not like an oak soft feel. Never experienced anything like that in all my years.
Thanks for sharing! I'm just barely getting into fingerboards! I blow glass and wondering if glass wheels have ever been attempted? Would I be the first ever to make them?
I think teak tunning is the best value for the price when it comes to wheels.
Substance THCs were the greatest of all time.
Can you do a video on mike Schneider
i remember re watching his MTV cribs video all the time. ive always wanted to see his set ups and how he made his Flateface decks.
It's in the plan! 😁
Are you the dude who used to ride for VEGAS fingerboards?
Hey Joe, I remember you from the RZF days! Yes, that's me😁
Upside down Ollie. Get outta here.
It was actually a kickflip😮
Joycult is still here
This really aged poorly
Well this post aged poorly
im still using my Flatface G6-Os on my G12 deck lol havent changed that set up for like 10 years
I still rock that old mold Berlinwood with G2s! Sometimes the old setup just feels right 👍
@@cdplaya i still have my old mold Berlinwood but sadly had to glue the tail on after it snapped :(