The Dark History of Two Sigma - Stolen Models and Stellar Returns

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  • Hacker Kang Gao stole trading models from Two Sigma hoping to build the next billion-dollar quant hedge fund. In this mini-documentary, we learn the dark history of the infamous Two Sigma.
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  • @Finaius
    @Finaius  3 ปีที่แล้ว +57

    A quant video long overdue. Enjoy! Also, check out Dr. Lopez De Prado's ground breaking book here - amzn.to/3nMK6Zo (Advances in Financial ML)!

    • @shimronalakkal523
      @shimronalakkal523 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Do you guys have a discord??

    • @Finaius
      @Finaius  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sorry no.

    • @iamkhabz
      @iamkhabz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      FINALLY!

    • @mashavu09
      @mashavu09 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Could we connect kindly ? I am in awe of your production but most of all your knowledge! Any social media u will find me ! Kindly will appreciate?

    • @thatoyaonebogopa9483
      @thatoyaonebogopa9483 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Phew...finally.

  • @eirikvagen3669
    @eirikvagen3669 3 ปีที่แล้ว +65

    Told you the subs whould pour in if you kept up the quality. In a year i think you will pass all expectations, keep on going man! Great videos!

    • @Finaius
      @Finaius  3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Thanks!!

  • @LibbieMarsch
    @LibbieMarsch 3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    You really do a great job at piecing the information together, it makes it easy to watch and take in information.

  • @richunclejoey2249
    @richunclejoey2249 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    I like "When someone tries to sell you their profitable trading patterns". I swear more of these gurus on social media make more off their views, hustling e-content sales and courses or affiliate sale of signal services then they make actually trading. I would go as far as to wager the majority of the "gurus" have never learned basic risk management, perfected their own trading psychology, or even made enough for a substandard of living off of solely trading at any point yet in their careers' or lack there of. Great video again. I had subscribed to this channel a while ago and today I had some free time when the markets slowed down for a NY session lunch and started exploring your content more deeply. Glad I did! Great channel Great Work. Hopefully your channel gets millions of subs, Thank you for you efforts

  • @Borisivan
    @Borisivan 3 ปีที่แล้ว +47

    A video about Bill Huang would really slap at this moment.

    • @Finaius
      @Finaius  3 ปีที่แล้ว +47

      I'm thinking of doing the whole history of the Tiger gang.

    • @ofyhwh-0076
      @ofyhwh-0076 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Finaius do it

    • @chiterfromdahood
      @chiterfromdahood 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Finaius That would be epic!

  • @walterdeanlewis
    @walterdeanlewis 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Great video. Well researched, and cool visual effects. I'd like to see your format applied to a decade (20's/60's/80's 90's 00s etc) series that could show the time, the bubble of the era, the villains, etc. Keep up the good work!

  • @likemysnopp
    @likemysnopp 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This channel is a goldmine im currently exploring. Really nice to see that my idea of that no strategy will work for a long time in the market seem to be a very true idea

  • @joshuawrong1314
    @joshuawrong1314 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Been waiting for this one. Happy to see its finally released!

    • @Finaius
      @Finaius  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Heck yeah!

  • @ClutchJoyner
    @ClutchJoyner 3 ปีที่แล้ว +86

    Big fan of this channel!

    • @wo1162
      @wo1162 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I m a big AC of this channel

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      @saluxnizigama5561 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Me too

  • @CookbookAdventures
    @CookbookAdventures 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Keep making finance videos, they are amazing. Thanks for all the hard work. I look forward to them.

  • @Alex-kf8fl
    @Alex-kf8fl 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    you keep getting better & better with each video man, great work :)

  • @khalidhakimi93
    @khalidhakimi93 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    love your content, please make as much as you can. this is gold stuff

  • @GeorgesSegundo
    @GeorgesSegundo 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Each video of yours is a gift brother, thank you so much.

  • @aisniper4095
    @aisniper4095 3 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    I think your amazing channel deserves above 1M subscribers.
    It'd be amazing if you could make more technical videos and talk more in-depth about the quant strategies, research process, data, models, and ...

    • @Finaius
      @Finaius  3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Duly noted.

    • @fminc
      @fminc 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Finaius This is the first video I have seen of yours, although for some reason I was subscribed already. I understand what the gentleman is asking of you, is quite the tall task, in itself. But that was very encouraging, to see your response. Thats the spirit. Thanks for your work.

  • @YouLoveMrFriendly
    @YouLoveMrFriendly 2 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Your channel helped save me from the delusion of day trading. I realize now what resources it takes to get an "edge"in these markets, and the lone wolf just doesn't stand much of a chance.
    Great videos and production.

    • @jaghad
      @jaghad 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      If every person would think like you there would be no Amazon, no Tesla and so on. Still, it probably was a good choice, but don't put a cap on your potential. Then you will never know what you could have become.

    • @abhijitdixit1164
      @abhijitdixit1164 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You are mistaken if you're considering that both multi billion hedge funds and retail day traders are seeking the same alpha, strategies of profitable traders can't be simply extrapolated to work with billions of dollars.

    • @libertybelllocks7476
      @libertybelllocks7476 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@abhijitdixit1164 Exactly. What works for $1MM account wont work for a $1Bil account, and vice versa. It is difficult, but possible, you must follow the machines

    • @danaphanous
      @danaphanous 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@abhijitdixit1164 Not sure this is correct in the case of quant funds. Traditional funds maybe. Any consistently profitable signal that an individual trader is looking at with their eyes/models is likely also being looking at by quant algorithms...particularly if that information was shared online or in a "course". Any public trading strategy can be implemented faster by an AI, and as stated in this video, Two-Sigma alone looks at thousands of signals and researches new ones because as soon as one because public it stops working as quant funds compete to arbitrage. It doesn't cost them much money to have a different algorithm on standby even if the signal is for a smaller dollar amount like 1M.
      Now, one place where your advice DOES make sense is when it comes to buy and hold strategies on smaller stocks. An AI has little edge when it comes to analyzing a business and owning it for a few years or more, and most big fund managers completely ignore the small cap space other than to put them in indexes as it isn't worth their time. So fundamental analysis on individual companies does pay off.

    • @gracegraci8064
      @gracegraci8064 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Boll...s, pal! I am a lone wolf and my head is over the water from years ago.

  • @dontevntrip8627
    @dontevntrip8627 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    You make some great short films, I love these. Keep at it you will keep growing.

  • @whale4866
    @whale4866 ปีที่แล้ว

    Although Finaius is doing what he can production wise he’s on a great start. Very good information shared and I can’t wait to see your journey unfold further. You’ve earned a supporter here.

  • @jeffgoucher6956
    @jeffgoucher6956 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love your channel mate, haven't found anything else like it. Keep up the great work!

    • @Finaius
      @Finaius  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks!!

    • @rokyericksonroks
      @rokyericksonroks ปีที่แล้ว

      Two Sigma are assholes, but their algorithms work so we have to respect that. I think.

  • @DailyProg
    @DailyProg 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Amazing videos so far. I always look forward to the next ones

  • @bouzie8000
    @bouzie8000 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This was so fun to watch. Doubly informative as well

  • @renattomejia3619
    @renattomejia3619 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Recently came across your channel, and I am loving it! New subscriber

  • @tapanginoya583
    @tapanginoya583 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yoo, the animation and music became next level in this video

  • @plastelina_ytb
    @plastelina_ytb 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    As others have said: really enjoy the content and story telling 👍🏽

  • @projekts5047
    @projekts5047 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    love these videos man!

  • @goldenratio183
    @goldenratio183 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love your videos, keep em coming!

  • @ambarishj3314
    @ambarishj3314 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Still an amazing channel. Thank you buddy.

  • @miguelo.
    @miguelo. 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    The storytelling is Netflix quick-series-worthy.

    • @arthurswanson3285
      @arthurswanson3285 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Especially the Gao part. He did time in Rikers!

  • @aks9545
    @aks9545 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    🙏 thanks for posting amazing videos man I love them

  • @soufianeibnouelmahdi296
    @soufianeibnouelmahdi296 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    One of the best channel on TH-cam about finance history 👏

  • @kennyaintdead5488
    @kennyaintdead5488 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Absolutely love the channel!! 🚀🚀🚀🚀🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

  • @kenchen7737
    @kenchen7737 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome video as always!!!

  • @davidchiumeraable
    @davidchiumeraable 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Another amazing video! Keep it up! :)

  • @nashaafshar6392
    @nashaafshar6392 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video, thanks guys!

  • @dxtrai8554
    @dxtrai8554 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    thank you for the new masterpiece

  • @hooregi4500
    @hooregi4500 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I love these videos. Very few make stories regarding these topics. I hope TH-cam is sustainable enough so that you can keep doing them. Very well crafted!

    • @Finaius
      @Finaius  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      🫂

  • @pankajpawar6604
    @pankajpawar6604 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Amazing job sir 🙏🙏🙏

  • @jrfabian
    @jrfabian 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    love the channel!

  • @petera4476
    @petera4476 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Awesome content!
    Love the Westworld theme music too!

  • @sebastianburnaz6760
    @sebastianburnaz6760 ปีที่แล้ว

    Super cool documentary!

  • @LibbieMarsch
    @LibbieMarsch 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for being informative

  • @KeithAdam
    @KeithAdam 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Great video man! Solid research and great editing

  • @ForsakenPrayers
    @ForsakenPrayers 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    You should make a video on Jane Street Capital or Hudson River Trading

  • @notalexmarin
    @notalexmarin 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    love your videos, keep it up!

  • @michaelgonline
    @michaelgonline 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent channel!

  • @adityasharma3526
    @adityasharma3526 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Waiting for a 3 weeks commenting before watching I know it's excellent.🙏🙏🙏

    • @Finaius
      @Finaius  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hah yeah

    • @adityasharma3526
      @adityasharma3526 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      My portfolio lost 40% then recovered last year doubled my capital. I had position in gold too that gave 25% return when everything was going down. While normal cash instrument for long term remain intact @ 8.5%

  • @Bernoulliflyer
    @Bernoulliflyer 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very interesting and entertaining! Thank you.

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    @mikedean6576 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Amazing content!

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    @eddyshasha1996 3 ปีที่แล้ว

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    @joelmartinez625 3 ปีที่แล้ว

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    @saluxnizigama5561 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Keep it up!!! Big fan

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    @predatorab711 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for the beautiful videos !

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    @zachkrishna4949 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good to see veer Singh back

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    @robertcooper1640 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great channel, Great videos.

  • @graymars1097
    @graymars1097 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Woah! Where has been this channel?! It ok it ok I here
    Great video man

  • @GabeClendenning
    @GabeClendenning 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    just discovered this channel, definitely subbed

  • @LicoInvestments
    @LicoInvestments 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great stuff as usual!
    Thanks for the upload- but now I want to watch Westworld.

  • @ebitdareadthebook1535
    @ebitdareadthebook1535 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love the videos! You should do one on Milken, Tiger Cubs, Stevie Cohen, Galleon/Raj, etc

  • @growproteas1148
    @growproteas1148 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    you make great videos!

  • @ExplainedExplanation
    @ExplainedExplanation 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great content

  • @danijcruz
    @danijcruz 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Best channel!

  • @moddersarena2800
    @moddersarena2800 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Storyline is amazing

  • @gbballpl
    @gbballpl 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Is the music the intro from west world?

  • @ajaxbeta8278
    @ajaxbeta8278 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    great video again. you are becoming my favorite channel for sure, looking forward to the next!! keep at it and build a big email list. then youll get acquired by bloomberg or someone

    • @Finaius
      @Finaius  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks. Haha I hope!!

  • @pesachase7023
    @pesachase7023 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    When that guy leaves jail he'll become a Bond villain

  • @prajuwalmishra6886
    @prajuwalmishra6886 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good one

  • @thekid3563
    @thekid3563 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    great channel

  • @joshoppenheim5093
    @joshoppenheim5093 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    The westworld theme song is hype

  • @blacklist7564
    @blacklist7564 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks again. Please do a video on self-funded traders like a top ten list or so.

    • @Finaius
      @Finaius  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Gotcha!

  • @jailsinghrajaputra
    @jailsinghrajaputra 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice content
    Tq

  • @nandotorres14
    @nandotorres14 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice videos... Congrats!!!!

  • @stevengreidinger8295
    @stevengreidinger8295 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    The title of the video implies that Two Sigma stole models, not that an employee stole from them. That's not fair to this particular firm.
    Two Sigma may or may not be the good guys in this game. That depends on whether we support the organizations that invest with them. Is Two Sigma trying to help a bunch of nonprofits while charging reasonable fees, or are they trying to just grab 150% of the benefit for themselves? The video didn't address that question at all.

  • @john6291
    @john6291 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    love the Pizza Hut meeting place..

  • @anveshsameer
    @anveshsameer 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Intro music 🎶 gave me chills & profits

  • @darleneatkinson6730
    @darleneatkinson6730 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Rocky, I'll be upfront with you, I just love your videos I put zero in any investments I am past retire age so risking my fund to me not wise. I might be here today gone off the earth tomorrow I have other loved ones to think about beside myself. However, great videos they are super well edited and recorded uploaded awesome to watch. Thank You do much plus it like DIO of these people.

    • @Finaius
      @Finaius  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Of course. Thanks!

  • @gwagon3268
    @gwagon3268 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    2:53
    That laugh was sick😷

    • @infiltr80r
      @infiltr80r 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I think the guy next to Bezos is Vint Cerf.

  • @systematicfx
    @systematicfx 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    that's what I have been doing for a few years now. Having the data helping me.

  • @kiklocus4660
    @kiklocus4660 ปีที่แล้ว

    amazing BG music

  • @nayanmipun6784
    @nayanmipun6784 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I trade with the 400 moving average, and I have seen other programmer's (some of who are not traders) automation where the software can't even properly trade the entry and exits according to the 400 moving average which is actually very easy, trading is not hard if you know the tricks

  • @habibbialikafe339
    @habibbialikafe339 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Rennaissance Tehnologies saw over 2 billion in redemptions after poor performance. However, the medallion fund remains strong, but it was the other funds the firm manages that performed poorly.

  • @17teacmrocks
    @17teacmrocks 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    retail and finance ppl look at like no more than a dozen technical indicators and fundamentals. data science-driven funds today can examine tens of thousands of features in ML pipelines, producing very low tracking error models across the entire stock universe.
    the kaggle competition where two sigma opened input to the DS community for their core factor model I think had a feature set that was only a few hundred inputs. I was just reading a submission from one of the winners. Depending on the data provided, it may actually be more effective to reduce the final model's factor loading set to avoid overfitting. I've seen other approaches where they do include numerous features, but orthogonalize their contribution to remove duplicate correlated impact.

  • @afor910327910327
    @afor910327910327 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    You rock!

  • @TheSepz
    @TheSepz 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    In 2020 we did 39% net and this year we are on our way to 60% profit. We have proof. We have been also developing our own model since 2015 and we are aiming to launch it in 2023.
    Thanks for your video.

  • @rhythmandacoustics
    @rhythmandacoustics 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    My 2020 returns are phenomenal, but I really do not care about stock prices. I am long-term fundamentals, value investor. I rejoice that there are market crashes. As long as you buy shares thinking of them as businesses and not pieces of paper and avoid leverage, you will do well. Debt is what causes business and individuals to go bust.

    • @Finaius
      @Finaius  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      That's a good attitude!

  • @User-gj1ub
    @User-gj1ub 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    sigma male grindset 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥💯💯💯💯💯💯 #trillionaire

  • @itsdivertido9020
    @itsdivertido9020 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    netflix production quality.
    waiting for your uploads.

  • @coughforme21
    @coughforme21 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Buying retracements on movers that have spiked or massively run-up seems to work well.

  • @thatoyaonebogopa9483
    @thatoyaonebogopa9483 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great vid. Please give me more quant stuff lol. I hv had to watch same vids over añd over just to get my daily fix....😅😅

  • @pleaseenteraname3607
    @pleaseenteraname3607 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Your channel will be the standard for information on hedgies

  • @EliTheCryptoAndAiGuy
    @EliTheCryptoAndAiGuy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can you do one about Robertson Tiger Management, Tiger Global, Archegos, and Millenium?

  • @ZenTradeGame
    @ZenTradeGame 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love when your videos drop 💪🏾

  • @MrAlaister
    @MrAlaister 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great video, thank you. Please do a video on Seth Klarman

  • @michaelpatton9573
    @michaelpatton9573 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love this channel

  • @suyash159
    @suyash159 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    My trading patterns are so good, it'll generate thoughts in your head to never trade derivatives again

  • @alexs3711
    @alexs3711 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Keng Gao’s fund is now holding over CNY 10B AUM. I guess not too bad for him. Quant Fund is rising in China.

  • @maxcroce6216
    @maxcroce6216 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    do Millenium management next!!!

  • @jack_sparrow1049
    @jack_sparrow1049 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Please make videos on how to make or do something like the quant. For a normal trader. I am programming my algo but i am interested in quant. How do i use some rescuers l techniques of quant is there any free resourse if it is outdated still it will be helpful for me. Sir if you have any please share

  • @Ptro1
    @Ptro1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Should make it a podcast also

  • @yvonney6732
    @yvonney6732 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Who made the music? The music is awesome

  • @holdingspace
    @holdingspace 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Lets gooo

  • @Waterfound
    @Waterfound 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Finaius, please make a Hetty Green documentary.