Are They Gay? - Alexander Hamilton and John Laurens
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A video series tackling the one question facing many couples throughout history: Are They Gay?
In this episode we explore the relationship between Alexander Hamilton and John Laurens from history, a subject of much debate. Do you think they're in love?
Suggest more pairings in the comments!
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Twitter: / aretheygay
MUSIC:
"Casa Bossa Nova", "Cello Suite #1 in G - Prelude", "Divertissement - Pizzicato (from the ballet Sylvia)", "Egmont Overture Finale", "Hep Cats", "Jesu, Joy of Man's Desiring", "Quirky Dog", "Sidewalk Shade"
Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com)
Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0
creativecommons...
Claire de Lune - Claude Debussy For Fun: / alexander_avila
Oh, you miss the fact that Laurens had referred to Hamilton as "his boy" in their letter. Apparently he didn't adress to anyone else with that name except for his wife, who he would referr as "my girl"
I'll just let that here...
IT'S YA BOI, A. HAM
You say what can make me feel this way,
MY BOY!
I’m crying
Well...that's true, but it actually was: "Dear Girl" to his wife and "Dear Boy" to laurens, yep, in the million letters alexander wrote, he only says dear to those two and btw, he called all the time "black eyes2 to describe his wife, not a very lovely nickname, though (and it's not confirmed but the family and closest friends of laurens, call him "Jack/Jackie")
Luli Amb.
I bet Hams called him "My daddy" then. ;)
I wonder, when the letters were destroyed-
*was there anyone else in the room where it happened*
th-cam.com/video/fzZNWqUJuA4/w-d-xo.html :v
New Yorki Eliza found all those letters after he passed and ahem *watched them buuuuuuuuuuuurn*
Not Burr
Is that a yEs?
Yea probably
Alex: *writes heart felt paragraph*
John: K.
Relatable, have a nice day.
Noooo
John:👍 cool
You can just feel the passive agressivness--
he leaves them on read
Or- "lol"
They should’ve gotten married in New Jersey,
*Everything is legal in New Jersey*
Grand Prettymoon yessss😂
Even beating up your neighbors with bats lol
YES
y e s
yall forgot about me huh
“I swear that wasn’t supposed to sound gay”
-Laurens to Hamilton, probably
@Phil Trash #2 Your name and pfp tho😆
See everything from your name to the comment is perfect
This video is the exact definition of ignorance if 80% of the baby boomer generation was straight what makes you think really anyone was gay in the 1700s?😐 there’s absolutely nothing wrong with being gay but literally not everyone is gay just stop disrespecting our founding father.
@@poomeee5406 you really keep on copy and pasting his comment everywhere to make ppl mad huh? 😂
@@noasteinberger5415 yep and no the number of gay has increased tremendously
If Lin-Manuel Miranda, a man who studied Alexander Hamilton for years so he get into the same mindset for the musical, and can even go as far as to forge the Founding Father's signature, thinks Hamilton is bi, it makes me think Alexander really was idk about you
Elisa Castro thankfully?
Falling-Out-Trees 101 They must be homophobic
Thicc Kiwi i agree with you but just a side note “heterophobia” isn’t a thing lol
@@hardcrowley1549 heterophobia is not a THING, are straight people being oppressed because of their sexuality? no. i dont care if someone on twitter said "imagine being a het could never be me" that does not make you oppressed in anyway. it's like a white person claiming to be oppressed because someone called them a cracker. heterophobia would be if people hated straight people and the fact they like the opposite sex, which never happens. being straight is what society views as "normal" therefore no one is going to genuinely hate straight people since that is what society shoves down our throat since birth. i can assure you those people on tumblr saying they hate straight people KNOW straight people, their just jokes that clearly flew over your head.
@@nat-oi2fh I've met five people who hate straight people. Some because they want their idols not to be straight because they find it disgusting. Another said they give straight couples a disgusted look.
Heterphobia exists even though it shouldn't
Eliza: I try to make sense of your thousands of pages of writing
Laurens & Hamilton: *Sweat nervously*
Casually Jenny
Yeah it was easy to make sense of those.
You don't want to read some of the things, trust me.
I still can't quite get over it.
Aaron Burr Letters
Eliza Schuyler-Hamilton heheheheh......heh.....heh..heh
Casually Jenny yeah 😂
Elizabeth Schuyler Hamilton Yeah Aaron burr letters for sure! I totally dont know anything
Hamilton: babe?
Eliza: yes?
Maria: yes?
Angelica: yes?
Laurens: yes?
The other 51: yes?
Hamilton: ...
Eliza: *burns his entire existence*
Lolll
Hahahhahah
He lly the other 51? I got the reference
*T H E O T H E R 5 1*
Lmao this deserves an award
" A genius bisexual and a cool gay who draws turtles"
Soylent,babe Bleh how can I hate that?
i ship it
Maya G I luv turtles
I WISH THEY WERE STILL ALIVE SO I COULD...:.SHIP THEM MORE THAN I DO
my last two brain cells
A genius bisexual and a gay who draws turtles 🐢
What else would you want in life? Actually though
I would actually like this
TURTLESSSSSSSSSSSS
@@henderyclit oml ur right
Paul The llama just wait and see if they like Hamilton.
@@cami2289 if they do
YOU HAVE FOUND A SOULMATE
Lafayette, Mulligan: We, fought with him
Laurens: Me, i died for him
Washington: Me, i trusted him
Angelica, Eliza, Maria and Laurens: Me, I loved him
Laurens: Wait what
XD I laughed so hard oml
LAURENS: Me, I died for him!
[ELIZA, ANGELICA, and MARIA stand over a balcony. LAURENS rushes over and pushes in front of them.]
ELIZA, ANGELICA, MARIA, and LAURENS: Me, I loved him!
ANGELICA: [Under her breath] What the fuck?
[ANGELICA pushes LAURENS off of the balcony.]
Lily Lilac233 Burr: I fuccin pretended to like him then I shot him :3
Laurens: Me, I died for him!
Washington: Me, I trusted him!
Angelica, Eliza and Maria: Me, I loved him!
Laurens: But did you die for him?
Thought it was Phillip saying i died for him 😭
publisher, holding a pair of scissors: *TOO GAY TOO GAY TOO GA-*
no one l it’s actually his son
*ew dad, no, too gay, must snip this out*
im gonna need someone to figure out what those words were
@@kikuoisthebestandnoonecant1915 check out ciceroprofacto on Tumblr, she has a deep and well constructed analysis. Those were probably the five words: *And don't forget that I never spared you of pictures* : ciceroprofacto.tumblr.com/post/149351486726/those-five-words
Of course, this is just a theory.
Layrak oop-
Layrak okay then- 👌🏾
Alex: "I'm passionately smashin' every expectation-"
Laurens: "Ya wanna be passionately smashin' somethin else?"
I don't appreciate this.
ocean breeze yes!
Eliza Schuyler-Hamilton Everyone does tho XD
ocean breeze song pause...
🎼TELL ME HOW TO SAY NOOO🎼
Wow. Um..
“There’s a million things I haven’t done, just you wait”
*winks at Laurens*
U_U
(͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
UWU
Hi do you know a Ben?
He did 'im alright ;)
When Laurens died, Hamilton was two days without talking to anyone, not even his wife. After that he closed himself to everyone and couldn’t easily make friends, also, he never talked about John Laurens again since it hurted him so much to remember his death. Eliza (who never got to meet Laurens) got really worried about her husband’s situation, but after she found and read the letters, she was happy for not hearing about John Laurens after his death.
Yep
Max gayness made Eliza jealous :v
But.. he loved talking 😭💔
BRUH I'm crying rn
sure and where did you hear that from?
i bet you're lying
also his letters to laurens are very contradictory, with his thoughts on Eliza
laurens “ME I DIED FOR HIM-“
[dashes to other side of stage]
laurens out of breath
“ME I LOVED HIM!”
😂😂😂
if we were to team up with lin and write "Hamilton: Extra Gay Edition" then yeah i bet
Annie Smith OMG YASSSSSSSS!
😂😂 I sooo see this happening!
HHAHAHAHAHHAHAA
Laurens' family: John, these letters are just too raunchy
Eliza: I'll burn them. I'm an arsonist.
I LOVE YOU
XD
+
Pfffffffff that's great
Eliza, you pyromaniac.
Lin should watch this.
LIN should WATCH this.
LIN SHOULD WATCH THIS.
Lin knows. He wrote it into the musical and it's amazing
Can we like, spam the link of this video in Lin's twitter or any social media that he has XD
I have watched it.
Querro SMO YESS
Lin NEEDS to watch this
I like how we're shipping people that are 300 years old
Taylor Caine tru too tru as frick XD XD
they're 200, not 300
And uber deceased
And dead
Taylor Caine well you are incorrect and do you even know what Black Butler is?
Sooo. Hamilton was the clingy s/o in that relationship. "Laurens, i wrote you this many letters, and ARE YOU LEAVING ME ON SEEN SIR" "Laurens, if i can write this much, you can too, no excuses" "laurens, stop ghosting me" "laurens, my wife has black eyes, i miss you, when are you coming back"
😂
Laurens:
"Who said I'm coming back? I'm dead remember"
•Secretly.A.Loli• did you just-
TauruS • *yes I f-cking did.*
•Secretly.A.Loli• too soon😭😭😭
The letters weren't thrown away by historians.
Eliza burned them.
John sent them to Hamilton, she found them and was like "TOO GAY TOO GAY" and burned them along with Hammy's letters. 10/10
Dani Meow you stole this comment
nope nope from where?
Dani Meow This comment section
nope nope welp, great minds think alike I guess
I never looked at any others before I did this, or at least I didn't see one
"And he was one of his best friends"
..best friends...with beNIFITS
The publisher was actually John Church Hamilton... Alexander's son. So, there was a whole "preserving the family legacy" thing as well as how sexual it was (and "ew, dad, no!" feelings).
ffs he even named his child John how much gay can he be.
*Probs it's on another level*
This is why you don’t let your kids be publishers
Wait really? Oof
John hamilton named one of his sons
Laurens
COINCIDENCE I THINK NOT
dad why am i named after your boyfriend
Hamilton: Laurens, I like you a lot
Me, an intellectual: "cold in my professions, warm in my friendships - I wish, my dear Laurens, it might be in my power, by actions rather than words, to convice that I love you"
YascaredMiyuki fellow hetalians on a Hamilton post! Never thought I’d see this!
@@emisswag2799 OMG aaaa you've seen aph too?!
-Tiki_Times- yeeessssssss
i always did wonder - "by actions rather than words" - does that not mean "soft fluffy reassuring sex" or is this some straight bro thing that i'm too pan to understand
This video is the exact definition of ignorance if 80% of the baby boomer generation was straight what makes you think really anyone was gay in the 1700s?😐 there’s absolutely nothing wrong with being gay but literally not everyone is gay just stop disrespecting our founding father.
"Are They Gay? - Alexander Hamilton and John Laurens"
Yes.
Damn, that was easy okay gimme the next question
True!!
yes.
+PeeWee McQuestionable yes.
+PeeWee McQuestionable Yes.
+PeeWee McQuestionable name one reason why they weren't a couple because,,
Laurens is the guy who doesn't text back
LeeF Suki Like my friend
LeeF Suki he is just ghosting people (even if he loves them)
Lambrini Giatrou literally ghosting people
LeeF Suki Oh my god yes
he’s that guy that means to text back but is kinda scared of doing so or forgets
PRAISE LIN
HE IS GENIUS
PRAISE HIM
The Frank's Tank yes he is
I do that everyday anyway
Hamiliton and Heathers yes
PRAISE
The Frank's Tank yes.
"In short Laurens, im disgusted with everything in this world but yourself." -A.Ham
Yes, but its Hamilton, he has to write a 10 page essay on it.
@Angelica Schuyler Right..?!
This video is the exact definition of ignorance if 80% of the baby boomer generation was straight what makes you think really anyone was gay in the 1700s?😐 there’s absolutely nothing wrong with being gay but literally not everyone is gay just stop disrespecting our founding father.
@@poomeee5406 god dammit please don’t tell me you’ve done this on every comment
@@poomeee5406 bruh, do you think people just suddenly started being gay recently?? There has always been gay people around people just hid it more before and I mean if you think that someone saying some of the founding fathers MIGHT'VE been gay is "disrespectful" then I think you're just homophobic cause like nobodies disrespecting them by saying they're gay especially when there is quit a bit of proof that they were.
Washington: **Ships Lams**
240 years later...
99.9% of the Hamilton fandom: **Ships Lams**
Washington: My cHiLdReN
Half of Lams shippers: I’m not ur son
Washington: I shipped Lams before it was cool
I shipped Lams before Hamilton the musical came out... so did my history teacher... YEAHHHHHHH XD
@@ashtonanimations858 You must have a nice teacher. XD
I really appreciate this comment thank you
Yasss😂😭😂
THERES A MILLION THINGS I HAVENT DONE
AND JOHN LAURENS IS ONE OF THEM
Smile Just like John Laurens if ya know what I'm saying ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
BUT JUST YOU WAIT, JUST YOU WAIT
I spat out my drink
is NOT one of them
lavenieys best comment on here- thank you!
Laurens I like you a lot
you're pants are hot
Lol
LETS HATCH A PLOT BLACKER THAN THE KETTLE CORN IN THE POT
Liked*
80sx coz, he’s saying that’s to Mulligan because he’s a Tailor
Lafayette, Mulligan: We fought with him.
Laurens: Me, I loved him.
The entire cast: .....
Washington: Um... Wrong line.
Laurens: *looks at the script* Oh-
Sh-
Shhshhshh
shh
bhhahaahaha
edit : 1 year later, this is still funny
sh-
Just waiting for Lafayette to come out of nowhere and just be like: MORE GAYS AND SHIPS AND SO THE RAINBOW SHIFTS
Nuclear Jenn ohmygod yes
Nuclear Jenn YES BITCH
Hamilton’s grandson called Lafayette, Laurens, and Hamilton “The Gay Trio” so Everything would have just became more gaY
GAYS AND SHIPS
AND SO THE RAINBOW SHIFTS
THIS COMMENT JUST MADE MY WEEK OH GOD
This was too perfect
I was reading a modern AU Lams fanfic where Alex had a long list called “A Million Things I Have To Do Before I Die” And one of the bullet points just said “John Laurens”
Assylum 13 What’s the name of this fic? Asking for a friend.
pfffft * *w h e e z e* *
Possoms Amazing can’t remember the name but I know it’s on Wattpad
I'VE READ THAT BOOK I REMEMBER THAT LINE!
I think the book's called Home.
Navy Stars that name is vaguely familiar so you may be correct
Washington actually was one of the first lams shippers. He once made Hamilton and Laurens sleep in the same bunk very aggressively.
Is it in a letter or something? Where did you find this out?
Please tell us i need answers
Found it out in a documentary on TV. Hamilton’s/Lauren’s journal.
I can just imagine this and I love it
perfection
It‘s funny how everyone views Lauren’s as this awkward gay turtle boy when HAMILTON was this crazy bisexual who literally wrote “I love you“ a million times in one letter to his best friend...
My point is: Why is no one acknowledging Hamiltons gayness!?!?
@Elisa Castro True,but it doesn't make you straight either. It's all about the context,and for these two: I'm pretty sure they were hella gay.
but hamilton was a bisexual mess, as many bisexuals tend to be
cause he was not gay, a gay man does not betray his wife with another women!!!
@Elisa Castro dude, he literally said this in a letter
"You should not have taken the accountability to steal into my affections without my consent"
Does that sound like a friendship?
@@SingingSealRiana he wasn't gay, he was Bisexual
An actual conversation me and my friend had:
Her: (My Name)
Me: What?
Her: Why do you you ship Alexander Hamilton and John Laurens?
Me: *types "Alexander Hamilton's letters to John Laurens"*
*highlights "I love you"*
Her: Oh....
*NOTICES BMC PROFILE PIC* HHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
i see a rich-
Well...saying that you love someone,doesnt always mean *that* kind of love...
Be more chill in a Hamilton comment section
Cold in my professions, warm in [my] friendships, I wish, my Dear Laurens, it m[ight] be in my power, by action rather than words, [to] convince you that I love you. I shall only tell you that 'till you bade us Adieu, I hardly knew the value you had taught my heart to set upon you. Indeed, my friend, it was not well done. You know the opinion I entertain of mankind, and how much it is my desire to preserve myself free from particular attachments, and to keep my happiness independent on the caprice of others. You sh[ould] not have taken advantage of my sensibility to ste[al] into my affections without my consent. But as you have done it and as we are generally indulgent to those we love, I shall not scruple to pardon the fraud you have committed, on condition that for my sake, if not for your own, you will always continue to merit the partiality, which you have so artfully instilled into [me].[
"Too gay to handle..."
Me: you could say it was. Too gay to handle-ton
Kill me
*hands knife* thank you
Dark Angel One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, *ten paces FIRE!*
ALEXANDER TOO GAY TO HANDLE-TON
Amber Shoffren well, just tell Dark Angel to aim for the sky.
I'm sorry.
Dark Angel 4
“We’re reliable with ladies” Laurens going into a ultimate gay panic
"LETTUCE?!"
L E T T U C E
_"...L-Ladders..?"_
John: reliable with the “looks a smudge on his hand”
John: lettuce? LETTUCE!🥬
The 🅱️ois: “Ladies!”
Laurens: “...Lettuce?”
Hamilton: “Goddamnit, Laurens!”
Funny fact(When he said they slept in bed together pfft)
John Adams and Benjamin Franklin actually slept in a bed together once, but they constantly argued over the window being shut or open
LMAO
Sleeping Pills XD LMFAO
Wow their a married couple. I SHIP
The only reason why they did it was because it was a cramped room with only one bed
And then it was explained that fresh air is good for you so they used a window all the way (I am trying to type random things to make up for the fact that I have forgotten who was on what side of that mini-debate, sorry)
Okay but I never thought that there would be a point in my life where I would be *shipping a founding father and a statesman*
Casually Jenny Samme
Casually Jenny I never thought I'd ship a man and a angel
Eyyyy, Destiel
Maha Baig you understand
:D
Does Alexander Hamilton is gay?
Meme Queens I don't know, does Alexander Hamilton is gay? Does he?
Yes. 😀
No, he does is bi. John Laurens does is gay
MYSTIC MESSENGER
the rumor come out: does alexander hamilton is gay?
fun fact: the guy who cut out parts of the letters wasn't just his publisher.
it was hamilton's son.
W a i t
Yeah! Hamilton’s son John found the Hamilton-Laurens letters, AND had a son himself who he named Laurens
You know what? That’s fair. If I saw my dad sending letters like *that* I would probably puke
*pyrra and patrochilles flashbacks*
@@milenar592 what do you mean?
the answer is simple
y E s
Kermit's Underwear Yaass
*Metatton voice:* OH YAAAAS~
And their bodies say „hell, yes!” XD
Yes! Yeeeeees
Yes! Yesssssss
YES! YESSSSSS
*Sips tea*
Mum: what are you watching?
Me: Gay founding fuckbois™
yup........
Beth Gorman this has brought tears to my eyes wtf but TRUE
But John Laurens wasn't a Founding Father, out of the two homosexuals (and/or bisexuals) Alexander Hamilton was.
(From Hamilton in a nutshell)
Phillip: dad, why do I look like your dead boyfriend
Hamilton: FUCK they know
Jadyn Moon You are my new favourite person.
Jadyn Moon I fucking love yoi
Jadyn Moon dear alexdre
I died lol
Xoxoxox, your boyfriend
Jon laurs
toasted marshmallow
My mind automatically went to ... I am slow to anger but you have towed the line (etc.)
toasted marshmallow yasssssss! GODDAMNIT LAURENS
Parents: What are you watching?
Me: ...
Me: I'm learning history
y e s
*I’m learning so much*
Yes
Totally not gay history
yep HISTORY
YROTSIH
Rearrange the last four letters and add a consant
yes I'm learning about historical letters
Yup history...
Oui. They were the gayest people ever in my life...
LAFAYETTE!? WHAT ARE YOU DOING HERE?!?!
Marquis De Lafayette yOu StAy OuTtA tHiS
Hammy, I'm surprised! I thought a genius like you would think up a more clever alias than "Clearly Not Alexander Hamilton". You're basically telling everyone "pfft nooo that's not me whaaat noooo" and then getting pissed when Laf calls you out on your relationship with LAURENS YES I SAID IT YOU
WERE
IN
LOVE
AND THAT IS THE PUREST THING SINCE EVER.
LAMS
LAMs
LAms
Lams
lams
lam
la
l
I am just going to ignore this and carry on writing gay fanfiction on my wattpa- I mean, writing essays about politics. Yes. That's what I meant. Politics. Nothing gay here.
I thought you died like, 300 years ago
Shipping America's Founding Fathers who are dead for 250+ years.
*I'm proud.*
Personally, I think it's wrong to ship _real_ people who had _real_ lives.
Blue Flare 1. They gay
2. This actually took part in history. THIS SHIP WAS R E A L WE HAVE THE R I G H T
3. It’s cute
@@mypenisisincrediblysmallbu4479 1. They were not gay. There is very little evidence to support this. And don't give me "but the letters prove it". The letters they wrote to each other were common during that time period. They don't prove anything.
2. It was not real. Like I said, there is not even enough evidence to support this. Not to mention that it would have been nearly impossible for them to be in a relationship because that was not allowed back then.
3. It is not cute. It is actually rather annoying seeing people ship them and spread false information without any real evidence to back it up. It is also annoying because they feel the need to shove it down everyone else's throats. Also, it is somewhat disrespectful to ship real people who had real lives.
@@Chloeee182 I'm only saying that the letters are not enough evidence since, despite what you may believe, they were quite common. A man saying they loved their friend wasn't at all unusual. Also, I'm not angry about people speculating if they actually have evidence. I am more annoyed at the people who are spreading false information by saying that Hamilton and Laurens had some kind of affair without any real evidence to back it up.
@@Chloeee182 I did, in fact, watch this video. I watched it before I even scrolled down to the comments. However, I will admit that it has been a month since I last watched it so I don't remember every single thing that was said. You do bring up good points, and I am even willing to believe that they deeply cared for each other more than what was considered to be normal. Hamilton was very close to Laurens and also Lafayette. I will not, however, believe that they had an affair like many people like to say. Many times I have heard people say, "They definitely had an affair, this proves it" or even, "He loved Laurens more than Eliza". The last one is the worst, in my opinion. Honestly, my main problem is when people rely on the musical more than evidence and then go around shoving their ship down everyone's throats. I don't get annoyed by everyone who disagrees with me. For example, I'm not annoyed or frustrated with you or this discussion at all. In fact, I find this conversation to be interesting.
As for Hamilton and Angelica, I will admit, I have wondered if they ever had an affair. After some research, I personally don't think anything happened between them. Eliza saw the letters Hamilton and Angelica wrote to each other. She even added a few lines to the ones Hamilton sent to Angelica, suggesting that Hamilton most likely had nothing to hide from her. Not only that, but Hamilton's letters to Angelica have a different tone compared to the ones to Eliza. The ones to his wife are personal and loving. He even felt comfortable enough with her to joke about himself. And if Hamilton did have an affair with Angelica we would probably know by now. Hamilton didn't do a great job hiding his affair with Maria Reynolds. He met with her husband in public and wrote letters to both of them in what was clearly his own handwriting. I feel like there would be some kind of evidence if something was going on between Hamilton and Angelica.
Lin should watch this.
LIN SHOULD FUCKING WATCH THIS.
Yes, yes he should!!! He would probably get a kick out of it as well!!! I wonder if he ships lams!! He probably does based on some of the lyrics.
He does because he has tweeted some quotes from their letters and liked some lams fanart XD
Musical Thalia He does! Yay!
He knows about it and he thinks that it was likely they were in a relationship.
Lunapuppy6 Awesome!!
A.ham to j.laur "I love you "
Historians- they were just friends
A.ham to a.shuyler "my dearest, angelica"
Historians- OH MY GOD THEY LOVE EACH OTHER
@@kamichubakugou1655 you mean, sister-in-law?
yesa nuwell well, yeah. I always mix them up, sorry.
With a comma after dearest-
@@ashtonwasfound With a comma after dearest you've written "My dearest, (PAUSE) Angelica"
@@feyasatos ANYWAY ALL THIS TO SAY I'm coming home this summer at my sisters invatation
That is my new phrase
There's a million ships i haven't done, just you wait.. just you wait...
Corndog same
i was literally singing the whole song with those words in it
Corndog JeffMads, Mullete, Lams and Jamilton, i gave some good ones right?
Misty Gamer you're forgetting the one I ship: Laurette (no historical references supporting this ship but I'm a musical fan so uh) Laffayette and Laurens
"i *hate* the congress- i *hate* the army- i *hate* the world- i *hate* myself"
gosh Hamilton, chill dude.
Krista Luna
Emo.
BUT I LOVE LAURENS
HAMILTON HAS NO CHILL, have you not learned yet?
he´s so real for that
Philip-im going to tell mom about the afair!
Hamilton-she already knows....
Philip- no, this one-*puts hair into a ponytail*
Hamilton-OH YOU WOULDNT DARE!
*I LOVE THIS!!!!*
Philip: Dad I look like your dead boyfriend what the actual fuck dad
Hamilton: Some questions are not supposed to be answered, my child. *AND DON'T TELL YOUR MOTHER ABOUT THAT OKAY SHE IS STILL VERY SAD CUZ OF LAURENS' DEATH OKAY?!?*
ScardyCat 83
YOUR MY FAVORITE PERSON!!!!
I LOVE YOU XD
Most underrated comment ever
*Hamilton writing to John:* Everything in this world sucks! I hate Congress, I hate myself, I hate mankind! Burr hasn't talked to me at all as of late! Herc is busy too- It all makes me angry! I want you so dearly to come to Congress, but you said no, so I hate you... No I don't, I love you, but you never write very often... so... I hate you. But I love you. But I hate you... No I don't I love you, come to Congress.
*John:* Have you taken a nap at all today?
Alex: What's a nap
*John:* "Oh no..."
Alex: *oh yes..*
•BBAY FROM EBAY• take a break
I'm on my way!
Y'know, Hammy's son even CROSSED OUT some of their letters because he said that they would cause dishonor to him.
Newton Conniglio 69 likes ;))
LunagirlMSP Made it 70 }:)
Hamilton: Laurens, I like you a lot
Me: gay...
Flesh_Eating _Parrot lin put it because he totes think hammy liked laurens
Flesh_Eating _Parrot in fact he tweeted out this when someone asked if it was a nod to that
"yup, have you read the letters"
GAAYYYYY
Cocoa " H A M M Y"
Let's hatch a plot blacker than the kettle callin' the pot!
"He cut out a piece of history with scissiors because it was so darn offensive."
XD This had me dead.
All these hate full comments man
Hes Alexander damagin
John Laurens:pass the salt daddy
Henry Laurens & Alexander Hamilton:*reaches for salt*
Henry:...
Alexander:...
John:...
Alexander:I can explain
Faati Mah AKAKSKAKS
**throughs Burr**
When I tell you I CACKLED
Washington: *throws salt*
@@Vivigreeny25 lmao
i learned more about the founding fathers from Hamilton than from 12 years of public schooling
Antique Trash didn't we all XD XD
im annoyed by this kid
Dremaus1911 is history your passion
Antique Trash literally tho
Same
Angelica: i will never br satisfied
laurens: i feel ya sister
@@nothanks7416 pls stop correcting ppl, they probably know that they're wrong
@@nothanks7416 I meant like, they probably doesnt know that they wrote it wrong
But if they know they will probably fix it, since it's not some grammar mistake or anything (?)
This video is the exact definition of ignorance if 80% of the baby boomer generation was straight what makes you think really anyone was gay in the 1700s?😐 there’s absolutely nothing wrong with being gay but literally not everyone is gay just stop disrespecting our founding father.
@@poomeee5406 6th
@@poomeee5406 TIME FOR A TANGENT
Many people were homosexual in the 1700’s there’s the same amount of homosexual people as there were in the 1700’s but back then it was probably shoved to the side and less known due to social standards and less education of it. Wondering if there was a romantic relationship between historical figures isn’t disrespectful. We want to know what we can about our history and if figuring out our founding fathers romantic interest helps, it helps. Many historians have came to the conclusion of a homosexual relationship between John laurens and Hamilton. There is too much evidence to ignore at this point and personally, I find it nice to know that some of the most important people in our history were part of the lgbtq+ community. Sexuality isn’t a choice now so it wouldn’t have been a choice then. It wasn’t uncommon for men and women to be forced into marriages together due to family or societal pressures. So even though both ended up married, they both displayed a lack of interest in their mistresses.
This makes me uncomfortable because Laurens and Philip are played by the same actor.
philip: hi daddy
hamilton: please. don't
bubbly Nightmare Laurens:Yea, hey Daddy~!
HAHA GANI
No
Philip: *_dADDY DADDY!_* LOOK!
Ham: *stares awkwardly* I have to go.
Well both called hamilton daddy.
Hamilton: Laurens is in South Carolina redefining bravery
Laurens: we’ll never be free until Hamilton dates me
Hamilton: ....
Laurens: Oop autocorrect lol
Hamilton: THIS IS A VERBAL CONVERSATION
This is beautiful. Thank you.
Autocorrect, the best excuse
Imagine Anthony (who's plays laurens) was supposed to say *me I loved him* exept he missed his cue-
Aaaaannnddd screenshot
It was a brain autocorrect.
MY DAD WALKED IN ON ME WATCHING THIS, OH GEEZ
parents ... it's like they unconsciously know when to come in the worst of times
SAIBH does your dad not knock?
Never :'')))))
SAIBH rip
You should've switched the tab to gay porn. Would've been much easier to explain.
This would be funnier if he used Anthony Ramos' and Lin's pictures,I would die of laughter and awkwardness HAHAAH!!
ITS AT THE END! WATCH THE FULL THING!
no you fat tumblr sjw.
traitorade bru
traitorade what are you fucking 12? stop trying to be edgy
traitorade seriously, you are going to insult people for there opinions
THE WORD GENIUS WAS REPLACED BY LIN
I'M DEAD
SO THATS WHY LIN WAS THERE? OMLLLL
Ava Schweitzer why? They’re synonyms
I don't understand ahalaokq
Carolina Gonzalez Sorry I think you mean they are the same thing
Say hello to Alex and John for us
I guess Lauren’s will never be...
Satisfied
Caylee Fox 😂
@@inserthahafunniusername9656 LMAO-
@Abigail Gabriella lol true
@@inserthahafunniusername9656 when I tell you I w h e e z e d-
He is satisfied during Meet Me Inside tho
I think maybe Laurens had trouble sending messages back (as well as the other reasons) is that the military reads your letters to make sure you're not giving away any plans or locations
Kris omg yes
Imagine there reaction to Hamilton's letters, oh shit-
omg, you put a picture of Lin when the word was genius, accurate.
Iselin Johannessen Or you could say...Lin
Rainbow Drop ??
pxsteldepression, gg drop top
and when he put a picture of trump for fraud. TRUTH
Okay I know I am late-
BUT
Hamilton and Laurens are like those friends in middle school/ high school that make comments about how they are gonna date and stuff and makes flirtatious jokes that later come out as hELlA gAY
I am totally not speaking from experience...
Sorta like Jay and Silent Bob.
Everyone jokes about thrir gayness, until they actually come out as gay.
*AND THEN THE JOKES ARE EVEN BETTER*
So.....me?
hihihi, I have a friend with wich I exchange valintines presents and write loveletters, . . . but those are only emotional explicid, if it gets sexuell I feel like you have to take it more serious
That' unironically the relationship with my bf before we started dating
If i remember correctly,the one who published the letters was Hamiltons son, John Church Hamilton.
John then went on to name his son
"Edgar Laurens Hamilton"
Then it sorts became a popular name in the family,so heres some other Laurens in the Hamilton family tree!
Laurens Morgan Hamilton
Laurens Hamilton
Another Laurens Hamilton
And finally,ANOTHER Laurens Hamilton
That's brilliant, Laurens legacy goes on
(Tho the concept of a legacy is kinda dumb this is the exception)
This is honestly the sweetest thing I've read. Whether you think they had something beyond friendship or not, you can not deny that John Laurens had a massive impact on Alexander's life and its very sweet.
the fact his son that published the letters was named JOHN makes this better
P R A I S E L I N
He actually drew more birds that he did turtles. He drew one turtle one time and it was a commission.
*cries in turtle*
*cries in turtle and happy noises in bird*
Oh yeah, I wanna ruin yall's day
So
John ate a turtle once
Yum
TheAppleCat I already knew 😎👌
Hamilton: Laurens I like you a lot ;)
Oohhhhh SHI---
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHHHH
TOO MUCH !!
You're forgetting a line...
"I think your pants look hot
Laurens, I like you a lot"
Moira Straga he says your pants look hot to Herc
Stubby_Chubby Yorkie let me dreeeaaammm
holol I DUCK8NG LOVE ZTHESE COMMENTS
Laurens: me, I loved him.
Washington: that's not your line.
Laurens: shut up, George.
Washington: Sorry Laurens
Annie Productions *me not knowing what reference should I make since this line is said like 10 times*
*SHUT UP DAD, YOU DON'T KNOW ME*
*Shut up, dad.
SHUT UP YOUR NOT MY DAD
bro u gotta do ryan n chad from high school musical bro
Please that's prob my longest running ship 😂😂 (well except from Miguel and Tulio from the road to el dorado)
yeeessss
YESSSSSS
Yeah!
yeeeeeeeeesssss!
Me: ALEXANDER HAMILTON
Friend:
Me:
Friend:
Me: Anygay-
Thomas Sanders reference
I say Vol and you say Tron!
@@lilysands6461 tron!
notice that maybe everytime it says friendship it has the bisexual colors
Hamilton Beanie Cat also, pride was rainbow 🌈
Just imagine this in modern times.
Alex: John! Why haven’t you answered my 27 texts, 6 emails, or my 41 phone calls?!
John: I HAVE A LIFE ALEXANDER.
Yeah, that's probabaly what would happen.
Literally
What life, I’ve been away?
John : Why are you typing like you're running out of time ???
Alex : Cause I love you
Eliza in the corner : I can't even
Well, he did..
John Church Hamilton (Alexander's son) was the one who found the letters and and destroyed most of them. He had no reason to destroy them if they were not gay. Because honestly who goes,
"HEY I'm going to get rid of these totally normal letters that my father's friend send to him for no reason. It's not like I want to remember my dead father better at all." John Hamilton also named his child Laurens.... so yeah..
Anyways I like to call John Hamilton "The Weak One".
A. Waffle source
If he was so offended by the letters between his father and Laurens though, then why did he name his son Laurens?
Cowlan fUCK YEAH
I'd been hoping to get a reply to this, like to have a source when spreading knowledge, thanks dude
-lol John married his fathers wife and mistress-
Mayby he destroyed it that no one could ever use them to blackmail his family. But had nothing against the content and touched by the deep relationship they shred through sheer letters named his son laurens.
This was like reading a very good fanfiction except it’s actually true
çöřğï-:3 Then lets not assume they were straight either
@@nothanks7416 death is actually the correct term here I think
The other person use it as a noun so "death" fit more, "dead" is more like an adjective to me
Ps : English isnt my home language so I could be wrong
Maybe they're just European *smiles at me own joke*
Thank you for this.
Bordely Sinful Thank you. I love you.
N o
Bordely Sinful It's hard to guarantee
Depending on the time of day *Looks at Lafayette* the French go either way.
Alexander: *sends letter*
John: MARTHA ALEX IS FLIRTING WITH ME AGAIN
HE HAD A GAY PANIC EVERY LETTER ALEX SENT TO HIM.
I never told her
@@johnlaurens1494 oop-
This video is the exact definition of ignorance if 80% of the baby boomer generation was straight what makes you think really anyone was gay in the 1700s?😐 there’s absolutely nothing wrong with being gay but literally not everyone is gay just stop disrespecting our founding father.
@@poomeee5406 ...oh lord. being gay isn't something that spreads, it is literally how someone is born. so,there were probably many people that were gay/bi/etc, but were just silent about it because it was punishable by law. Don't forget that the ancient greeks and romans also had same sex marriage
Friend: I’m drawing Hamilton, what should I put in his speech bubble?
Me: Laurens I like you a lot.
Friend: But he’s sad.
Me: Laurens I liked you a lot.
Friend: DUDE NO-
Stop
That's awesome
Please Send Help
Me to that friend:”YES DO IT-“
n0, let me live in denial
No, why
Alex: I'm married
Laurens: k
Then later on Laurens dies
Oof
Oof
Oof
Oof.
Hamilton jinxed it.
Oof
"Are they Gay" on L and Light from Death Note
yES OHMYGOD PLEASE
YESSSS
OH MY GOD YES
HECK YEA
yesss
*Gets to the part where he talks about Laurens death*
Me: *starts singing Laurens interlude*
Milkeyboii _ and crying lol😂😭
I may not live to see our glory...
Onion boy deserves death I WAS CRYING NOT EVEN KIDDING LMAO
Leafgreen 25 but i will gladly join the fight
And when our children tell our story
Laurens: Me? I died for him- **runs over to the other side of the stage**
Girls and Laurens: Me? I loved him.
Also:
Laurens: **drunk and being cute**
Hamilton: **says something stupidly funny**
Laurens: **adorable cinnamon bun laughter**
Hamilton: Lord, show me how to say no to this..
There is no way to say no to this
...
do yall write fanfic or someshit? JK
How it should have gone. At least Eliza would have seen it coming, being how he invited Laurens to a threesome ON THEIR WEDDING NIGHT-
He didn't run, he resonates his homosexuality which causes him to gyrate at an incredibly fast speed, giving him the ability to teleport. Due to the speed and intensity of the movement he blurs himself and continues to at the speed of a very gay humming bird gyrate over to the other side of the stage.
Jimmy Neutron just-
Yes.
**enjoying video having fun learning about gay history**
*learns that Laurens dies*
**cRI**
GAY
everyone dies
GAY oh no he's still alive today didn't you know
(sarcasm)
GAY I
(Love your profile picture)
John Laurens does gay.
Alexander Hamilton does bisexual.
Sorry. I'll go home.
This Trashcan's Wonderland lol
This Trashcan's Wonderland yeah. At least the Whole fandom thinks so
Does Bruno Mars is gay???
This Trashcan's Wonderland does Alexander Hamilton is gay?
3 things me and Alexander Hamilton have in common:
-being bi
-being poor
-having a crush on Eliza
@@katlynn3173 nah he not my type
why thank you 😌💅✨
@@elizahamilton9590 omg a queen
Yeah he wasn't bi male relationships were different back then people who try to use Alexander Hamilton to lgbtq stuff are just seeing what they want to see. Just like everbody who say he is the good founding father because he was against slavery and thought he didn't own slaves when there are literal records of him buying slaves. He isn't special or different from the rest of the founder because he is in a popular play.
I mean- I have a crush on Maria- so that’s a think Alex and I have in common-
6:01
That publisher happened to be Hamilton’s son. Who was the one who found the letter and ironically his name was John.
@Elisa Castro Indeed he was! John Church Hamilton is generally believed to have been the one to have censored the April '79 letter, though we can never be entirely sure. As mentioned in the video, at the top of the letter, the line "I must not publish the whole of this" has been pencilled in. John Church Hamilton was working on publishing all of Alexander Hamilton's works, so it would make sense for him to leave a note to not publish the whole letter. In his book "The Life Of Alexander Hamilton", only the opening three paragraphs and the postscript are shown (all the parts about discovering that Laurens had a wife and child, and thus the majority of the inappropriate lines, including the censored five words, were omitted). The September 16, 1780 letter where Hamilton invites Laurens "to be witness to the final consummation" (probably most known for the line: "In spite of Schuyler's black eyes, I have still a part for the public and another for you; so your impatience to have me married is misplaced; a strange cure by the way, as if after matrimony I was to be less devoted than I am now.") was also omitted in its entirety. While it could be argued that he omitted this letter as it rather explicitly states for Laurens to not kill himself ("have recourse, neither to the dagger, nor to the poisoned bowl, nor to the rope."), this argument doesn't entirely hold up on its own considering John Church Hamilton later somewhat acknowledges Laurens' self-destructive (and seemingly suicidal) thoughts (see pages 391 and 392: "While to others [John Laurens'] heart was all kindness and benevolence, he was unjust only to himself; and while the world saw him graced with every virtue, he was still aspiring to some higher excellence, -an ideal perfection, which is denied to our nature, and exists only in the warm conceptions of a mind deeply tinged with romance. Nothing can more fully express this inward struggle for superior excellence, than his letter to Hamilton, and the latter's elegant rebuke [...] [Alexander Hamilton] knew the deep wound [John Laurens] had received at an early period of his life, and that there was that upon his memory which made the latest moment the most desired of his existence").
Interestingly enough, despite censoring the Hamilton/Laurens correspondence, he described Laurens to be "the individual who held the first place in Hamilton's affections" and even goes as far as to say "In the intercourse of these martial youths, there was a deep fondness of friendship, which approached the tenderness of feminine attachment."
I think the reason people often associate John Church Hamilton's name with Laurens is because later in his life, John Church Hamilton went on to name his youngest son Laurens Hamilton (likely after John Laurens; the guy seems to have been a fan, looking at pages 389 - 392 of the book mentioned above), but his own name was indeed after Angelica Schuyler Church's husband. There is always the possibility that Hamilton named him after both John Laurens and John Church, but there is no solid evidence to support this theory. Still, it is always a possibility.
Sorry for the long comment; I've been reading John Church Hamilton's "The Life of Alexander Hamilton", and saw my opportunity to talk about it here. I hope this was interesting :-)
Have a great day!
Radbec genuine appreciation to you!
@@radbec1638 I love this explanation! Thanks so much 👍🏾
*oh my*
Eliza: BURNNNN
Alex: ok but before we get into this-
Eliza: BUUURRRRRRNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN~
Alex: why does one of our sons look like John and the other named John?
FORGIVENESS
CAN U IMAGINE?
(not mine)
Someone in my band class was like, “I’m-“ I cut them off and said, “JOHN LAURENS” and then we both started singing it very awkwardly.
literally when someone says “im” i screech JoHn LaUrEnS
Elexis Stacy yes
*IN THE PLACE TO BE-*
Two pints o' sam addams
IvyTruong but I’m working on three! Yo!
Hamilton the play: I sleep
Lams: Real shit
Historic evidence that Hamilton and Laurens were a couple: Ascended
Green Byrd they probably weren’t a couple, in my opinion I think they had feelings for each other but didn’t go that far
Phillip: Daddy Daddy look
Alex: *Turns around* Yes laurens?
Phillip: What
Alex: What
W H A T
*Oh MY GOD I can't-*
I choked
Oh my-
EYE- ex-fuckin-cuse me while I choke on my m&ms
The five words missing were " never spared you of pictures " wow Hamilton, really bisexual.
Brooke Terp Proof?
Technically there is no proof, but that is highly thought to be true
pIcTuReS??? Can you guess what the pictures were?
S e n d N u d e s
"Remember those dick pics I sent you? Go brag about them. No homo"
I walked in on them kissing once. It was not good
*O O F*
*MY SUSPICIONS HAVE BEEN CONFIRMED*
Really? It was just that one time you saw us and now you go and tell the whole world about it?
OUI MON AMOUR IS THAT YOU?
HOW IS LE HERC AND GEORGES WASHINGTON III (Marie Joseph Paul Yves Roch Gilbert De Motier De Lafayette’s son)
Oh h e c c
John Laurens I'm
Shipping
Too
Much
ELIZA BURNED THE LETTERS
oof
OMG yessss
OOf :O
She burned the letters he wrote to her
*BURRn*
Angelica Schuylar Who knows? Maybe she burned the HamiltonXLaurens letters
Just to clarify:
John Church Hamilton was named after Angelica Schuyler’s husband, John Church. Laurens Hamilton was named after John Laurens.
John Church Hamilton was the one to cut out part of the letter.
Oh my god
THE MAN WANTED TO KEEP THE CANON TO HIMSELF
This video is the exact definition of ignorance if 80% of the baby boomer generation was straight what makes you think really anyone was gay in the 1700s?😐 there’s absolutely nothing wrong with being gay but literally not everyone is gay just stop disrespecting our founding father.
@@poomeee5406 uhh can you stop spaming this everywhere
@@aleasyah3032 or his brother but he was named after Lauren's so who knows
@@adinaa1589 exercising my first Amendment freedom of speech😉
when they ask you where the raunchy letters went
eliza: ??? OWO ??? O W O ??? idk ??????
Saturnrat BEST COMMENT
that made me absolutely die of laughter
... thank you XD
Burrrrnnnnnnnnnn
Saturnrat IM CRI!!!! 😂😂😂