Trappist Beers: Dubbel vs Tripel vs Quadrupel [What’s the difference?]

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  • @nobbynobbs8182
    @nobbynobbs8182 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Dubbel is a severely underrated beer type

    • @TheCrumbyBeard
      @TheCrumbyBeard  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      For sure! Would love to see more about. Cheers 🍻

  • @chriskappert1365
    @chriskappert1365 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    My favorite is the La Trappe , together with the Rochefort 10 . 😜

    • @nobbynobbs8182
      @nobbynobbs8182 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      We often joke about dutch beers like Heineken, but at La Trappe they know what they are doing.
      I also was pleasently surprised with Texels Skuumkoppe. Very refreshing to drink in summer

  • @shaunmorrissey7313
    @shaunmorrissey7313 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    St Bernardus (blue label) is a divine treat.

    • @riner9
      @riner9 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      been too long since I had a bottle, the place I used to buy from closed :(

  • @benbinks2012
    @benbinks2012 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    You could talk all night about Belgian beer and their relatives, and I would just sit here and listen 😁 I don't even need to, I have plenty of experience with them in their homeland, I just love them so much. Cheers, great review 👌

    • @TheCrumbyBeard
      @TheCrumbyBeard  ปีที่แล้ว

      I really have a huge soft spot for them too. For me it's one of those styles I won't drink weekly or even monthly, but when the time comes, that's all that will really tickle the itch! Cheers!

  • @clymtc
    @clymtc ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Enjoyed this, thank you, but you do need to get the correct glass type for the beers (and don't tip the bottle so far) Actually visiting La Trappe in a couple of weeks for a "tasting tour" - can't wait :)

    • @TheCrumbyBeard
      @TheCrumbyBeard  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That sounds fantastic, hope you enjoy!

  • @rehenhawksmusic
    @rehenhawksmusic ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great review cheers brother Cumby I love a Trappist beer❤❤❤

  • @williamnelsen3731
    @williamnelsen3731 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Good show man!

  • @dyc215
    @dyc215 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    just bought my first trappist beer today. can't wait to give it a try

    • @TheCrumbyBeard
      @TheCrumbyBeard  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Enjoy! Which did you go for?

  • @beardedarcher1322
    @beardedarcher1322 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This is a subject very dear to my heart, lived in south Netherlands for 3 years and spent a lot of my time sampling the rather large selection of Trappist beers, would recommend a stay in Maastricht if you get the chance!!!🍻

    • @TheCrumbyBeard
      @TheCrumbyBeard  ปีที่แล้ว

      I'll add that to the must-visit list. Thank you!!

  • @KermitForPrez
    @KermitForPrez ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Good review/education of the style. I have decided to take a focused walk down the Trappist road so I came back to this video to get started. Until now, I only had the style on the occasional lark.

    • @TheCrumbyBeard
      @TheCrumbyBeard  ปีที่แล้ว

      It's such a broad term in reality that trying to pin even the specific styles down is rather hard work, however, my experience has been just to try as many different styles from as many different breweries as possible and you'll find your sweet spot...or you'll find it's just not for you! But, at least you'll know. Cheers!

  • @LanguagesWithAndrew
    @LanguagesWithAndrew ปีที่แล้ว +4

    That was an *excellent* video for someone with only ~1000 subs. Well-done and I wish you success. Subscribed.

    • @TheCrumbyBeard
      @TheCrumbyBeard  ปีที่แล้ว

      Ah cheers Andrew! Much appreciated!

  • @mickeybravo6702
    @mickeybravo6702 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thanks for sharing. I love the Trappist style but apart from a general history didn’t actually know some of the nuances. And trying to explain to others a bit easier now!

    • @TheCrumbyBeard
      @TheCrumbyBeard  ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm glad it helped! This video was far from comprehensive but hopefully it gives the general appreciator of the style just a little more insight. Cheers!

  • @mdesmet9111
    @mdesmet9111 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    For a Tripel I prefer the Tripel Karmeliet. The St. Bernardus Abt 12 is a really good Quadrupel!

  • @dietrichess9997
    @dietrichess9997 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I'm drinking a La Trappe Triple as I watch this, and it is 8% abv. I've enjoyed this style before but I wanted to learn some more details as I enjoyed a bottle (or three).
    I have conquered the "excitable" head problem mostly, just by pouring it like I'm defusing a bomb. 🙂
    Nice video, Thanks! I simply looked up Belgian beer and chose yours. I'll be watching more, for sure. I've now subscribed.
    Edit: Today when shopping I saw a La Trappe Quadrupel and I think that label read 12%. I will check again tomorrow.
    I'm in Canada, and most of these styles come in larger bottles, with corks. The St. Bernardus is the exception, and we usually only see it in small capped bottles around the Yule season.

    • @TheCrumbyBeard
      @TheCrumbyBeard  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Ah thank you! Welcome aboard! Some of our larger bottles are corked but the majority we get are the 330ml versions seen here. We don't get a huge number stocked in our regular stores but because shipping directly from Belgium is relatively inexpensive due to the close proximity, thankfully that allows many small independent and specialist stores to get a decent collection on offer!

  • @dietrichess9997
    @dietrichess9997 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    "Not all Trappist brewers are singing from the same hymn sheet." 🙂 Nicely put!
    Have you heard the lore about the monks having to pack up and relocate a monastery/brewery, and so they carted the wooden beams of the brewhouse along with them to the new site?
    The idea was that so many of these beers were dependent on their specific "wild" yeast which had established itself within the very wood of the structures.
    True or not? Interesting story for a homebrewer (me) used to sterilizing everything and using packaged yeast.

    • @TheCrumbyBeard
      @TheCrumbyBeard  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I hadn't heard that but I can absolutely believe it! I've done a small amount of home brewing myself and likewise am fascinated by how it was traditionally done as a result. There are a couple of saison and wild ferm specialist breweries in the UK, I visited one last year and they actually filled a massive open-top stainless vat on the roof of the building with their wort for some of their specials, very different and very interesting!

    • @dietrichess9997
      @dietrichess9997 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Taking the wooden beams along with the brewery makes sense. I'll try to find a source for that story. I read it somewhere.
      Prison wine recipes can involve leaving a fruit peel out, and waiting for whatever specific yeast to invest in it ... 🙂
      Apple toilet wine or Orange toilet cider? Depends on the yeast. A saucy citrus or a floral bouquet?
      Wow, late night mycology... ? :-)

    • @TheCrumbyBeard
      @TheCrumbyBeard  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@dietrichess9997 haha, what a choice to make 😅

  • @SteenG3yL
    @SteenG3yL 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Try Grimbergen Double Ambree. It's my favourite Double thus far.

    • @TheCrumbyBeard
      @TheCrumbyBeard  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I have tried it but haven't yet reviewed it, it is incredibly good!!

  • @wilco7097
    @wilco7097 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Try Leffe triple, its the best around and will get you absolutely hammered

    • @rafkuenen7257
      @rafkuenen7257 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Try Duvel,you will forget leffe

    • @TheCrumbyBeard
      @TheCrumbyBeard  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Have had it since, can confirm!

    • @wilco7097
      @wilco7097 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@rafkuenen7257 Duval is not as fruity as Leffe. It's more a sour triple and not as far so smooth as Leffe. Leffe for the win!

    • @victorsmith9506
      @victorsmith9506 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Agreed!!!!

    • @dampaul13
      @dampaul13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Thankfully 'best' is a subjective construct, and I subjectively disagree.

  • @ronaldtheriot
    @ronaldtheriot ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've had the WEstmalle & the La Trappe.

  • @Mephizzle
    @Mephizzle ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Also the double, tripple and quad refers to the amount of X's written on the keggs in the olden times :). So a double was marked XX, the tripple XXX

    • @TheCrumbyBeard
      @TheCrumbyBeard  ปีที่แล้ว

      Oh interesting! Do you know how they determined which beer would receive what number of Xs in this format?

    • @Mephizzle
      @Mephizzle ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@TheCrumbyBeard the amount of % determined the amount of X's. One X (enkel) was drawn on the weakest beers, 'tablebeer'. XX was writen on the second level 6-8% and XXX was reserved for the heavy beers 8-10%. Quad beers are quite recent and invented by la trappe in 1991 and are more a marketing thing then actual use of X's. Quad beers are actually more a kind of barleywine then a proper beer.

    • @TheCrumbyBeard
      @TheCrumbyBeard  ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Mephizzle brilliant insight, thank you

    • @wouterdemuyt1013
      @wouterdemuyt1013 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Both the Rochefort 8 and the Rochefort 10 are quadrupel beers that date back to the 1950's.
      They are my favourite beers, along with La Trappe, St Bernardus Abt, West-Vleteren 12 and Straffe Hendrik Quadrupel.

  • @lucvanmechelen5989
    @lucvanmechelen5989 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    We Belgians are very protectif of our beer culture. Sint Bernardus is not a Trappist beer. Until 1992 it was the brouwery that brouwed for the Westvleteren Trappist monastery. From 1992 on Trappist beer has to be brouwed within the walls of the monastery. So they lost there licence to call it Trappist.

    • @TheCrumbyBeard
      @TheCrumbyBeard  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thank you for the facts! One day I will re-do this with exclusively Trappist brewers to avoid confusion. In addition it is unhelpful that globally people refer to Trappist beers as a style rather than a strict designation. Always learning! Cheers!

    • @timgentier5087
      @timgentier5087 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Completely correct argument but...its the perfect version of a double to use in this comparison, right?!

    • @alaingroenen8505
      @alaingroenen8505 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@TheCrumbyBeardit’s an abbey beer, not all abbey beers are trappist but all trappist are abbey beers.

    • @aby110
      @aby110 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Protectif en effet

    • @JamesPicciuto-zy7si
      @JamesPicciuto-zy7si 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Everyone shits on St Bernardus for not being legit Trappist, but it is on par with all of them and is my personal favorite

  • @You-mr3lo
    @You-mr3lo 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    La Trappe is great. The Blond beer is the best of La Trappe.

  • @thedalillama
    @thedalillama 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    As much as I like the famous beer brands of Belgium, I'm very happy to buy "Belgian beer" brewed in Canada and France. 1/2 the price by the time gets to me. I can wait until my next visit and look forward to it! :p

    • @TheCrumbyBeard
      @TheCrumbyBeard  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The French stuff certainly isn't bad, and has it's own signature style which I rather enjoy - Affligem immediately springs to mind as a good French brew with a lot of Belgian flair, and always goes down well. Cheers!

  • @stoempert
    @stoempert 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    St. Bernardus Abt (Prior) 12 imo is the go to Quadruple. Also, in the barley wine style, check out the very affordable Hertog Jan Grand Prestige.

    • @TheCrumbyBeard
      @TheCrumbyBeard  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I'll keep an eye out for it! Cheers!

  • @arator1979
    @arator1979 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You could have used the beers of Rochefort. They make doubles, triples and quadruples.

    • @TheCrumbyBeard
      @TheCrumbyBeard  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Very true! I wanted to use a variety of brands to demonstrate how they can all vary quite a lot, admittedly I cocked up with the St Barnardus 😅

  • @Arnaud58
    @Arnaud58 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    @1:40 Note 2 things though:
    The brewery is 5.5 whole miles away from the Belgian border.
    Belgium and the Netherlands where once one country.👴🧐😉

    • @TheCrumbyBeard
      @TheCrumbyBeard  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      This makes a lot of sense!!

  • @TheCraftBeerHub
    @TheCraftBeerHub ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The Crumby pours are back baby 😅

    • @TheCrumbyBeard
      @TheCrumbyBeard  ปีที่แล้ว

      It's always foam party time in the Crumby Cavern 😂

  • @StephenPerry-h7d
    @StephenPerry-h7d ปีที่แล้ว +3

    St Bernardus isn't a trappist anymore since 1992. The Crumby pours are back baby .

    • @TheCrumbyBeard
      @TheCrumbyBeard  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yep, I fluffed that up! This video is a few months old not but rest assured The Crumby Pours are going nowhere 😂

    • @dampaul13
      @dampaul13 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

      St Berardus was and has never been a 'Trappist.'
      They brewed Westvleteren under licence.

  • @Fonfo-Sensei
    @Fonfo-Sensei ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for this video Bro.
    Since you know about beer, I was wondering if you could give me some advice since I'm very ignorant in the world of beers, because I've always drank wines. My question is, what kind of beer brand to drink in a friendly party with colleagues of different ages and genders who don't like the bitterness of normal beer and it would be better to opt for a Dubbel beer or Tripel beer or Quadrupel beer?

    • @TheCrumbyBeard
      @TheCrumbyBeard  ปีที่แล้ว

      You’re welcome, and of course. I think the Quad may be too intense for a party situation as it’s very much a sit and consider type beer.
      Out of the other two it is difficult because the double is more approachable and has less hop bitterness, but some will have roasty bitterness introduced from the darker malts. Meanwhile the triple has hop bitterness but also has a lot more other flavours going on.
      If they don’t like “normal” beer I think the triple offers something more different, whereas the double is just a slightly sweet and stronger dark ale. Does that help?

    • @TheCrumbyBeard
      @TheCrumbyBeard  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Also, if you want to try other styles for non-beer drinkers who aren’t keen on bitter notes then I’d recommend looking at Weissbeers. Cheers!

    • @Fonfo-Sensei
      @Fonfo-Sensei ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@TheCrumbyBeard yes bro, thank you for the great help.

  • @patrickwolf5796
    @patrickwolf5796 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love the tripel most. St Bernardus makes a very nice one. For a dubbel I like Chimay. I don't care for quads, too boozy usually.

    • @TheCrumbyBeard
      @TheCrumbyBeard  ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm with you on the Quads, whilst I certainly enjoy one time to time, I very rarely order one when I see them available for that reason. Cheers!

  • @jan-willemtoonen2364
    @jan-willemtoonen2364 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The Latrappe 😊

  • @Mephizzle
    @Mephizzle ปีที่แล้ว +2

    As pointed out below St Bernardus isn't a trappist beer. The rest of the explanation is good though. Could you maybe use the right glasses next time, it's kinda important for trappist beers to be drunk from their respective glasses :)

    • @TheCrumbyBeard
      @TheCrumbyBeard  ปีที่แล้ว

      Like everyone else I’m still learning. The glass collection is a work in progress and some quality stemmed glasses designed for Trappist styles is something I must acquire!
      As for the St Bernardus, I won’t make that mistake again 😂

    • @Mephizzle
      @Mephizzle ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@TheCrumbyBeard the glasses are quite easy to find in Belgium, if you ever have a need to connect just let me know. The monks and brewers on the Westmalle brewery are very kind people aswell and will gladly give a tour inside the brewery if you know who to ask :)

    • @TheCrumbyBeard
      @TheCrumbyBeard  ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Mephizzle that’s brilliant thank you. Do you have a recommendation for a glass type that is suitable for a large variety of Belgian beers?

    • @Mephizzle
      @Mephizzle ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@TheCrumbyBeard see, the thing is, each beer has its own glass. So Westmalle has westmalle glasses, latrappe has latrappe glasses etc there is no 'real' universal glass. In a pinch you could use a glass with quite a wide opening (traditional for trappist beers) so the glass you use is kinda the opposite of a traditional trappist type glass.

    • @TheCrumbyBeard
      @TheCrumbyBeard  ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Mephizzle thank you! Obviously in an ideal world having branded glasswear for every beer would be brilliant but also very impractical 😅🍻

  • @thedalillama
    @thedalillama 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Definition of quad for me: Predominate flavors are dried fruit like prunes or raisins, and some spice. High alcohol, low perception of alcohol. Whatever the flavor profile is, I save it as an event beer such as a replacement of dessert or something to be savored on a holiday. It's an occasion in a bottle... and delicious! My palette is not that sophisticated and does not care!!

    • @TheCrumbyBeard
      @TheCrumbyBeard  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That is an excellent way to treat these beers and often find myself doing the same. I never fancy a Quad a a beer between a few other, but one to finish off a meal is superb! Cheers!

  • @philippeguiot9367
    @philippeguiot9367 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The usual mistake is to confuse Abbey beers with Trappist beers brewed by monks. St Bernardus f.i. is typically an Abbey beer

  • @ldoumen9904
    @ldoumen9904 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Trappist is not a style, it's a way of living... It's your poor pouring giving that kind of foam.

  • @timgentier5087
    @timgentier5087 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    For a, clearly knowledgeable zytologist, you really need the correct glas... Your explanation is spot on but these tumblers you use are just wrong. Glas is special and dedicated to every Belgian beer! You have a tumbler with closed nose and all of these beers need an open challes and for sure a foot so you dont warm the beer by gripping the glas... anyway, thx for indulsing into our culture but please, if you order beers from Belgium, buy the correct glas together. Its about 3 to 6 euro for the correct glas weir and with gift boxes, you get them for, almost, free 😊

    • @TheCrumbyBeard
      @TheCrumbyBeard  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Fear not, after the comments on this video I will certainly not be making that mistake again! The glasses used here are commonplace for beer tastings as the funnel of the opening acts in a similar fashion to a Glen Cairn glass for whisky in that it can concentrate the aromas and allow you to analyse more accurately, however, as you said, it's not ideal for casual drinking due to the heat exchange when holding etc. I'm very pleased to see how many Belgian people are so passionate about how their excellent beers are consumed. Cheers!

  • @ikke12345
    @ikke12345 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It is not trapist style, those are trapist beerse except sint bernardus this one is in the style of, but can not cary the trapist name. You should look to west vleteren.. Onlee beers brdwed by trapist order inside the monastery are to be called trapist.

  • @boereherp8705
    @boereherp8705 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    St Bernardus isn't a trappist anymore since 1992

    • @TheCrumbyBeard
      @TheCrumbyBeard  ปีที่แล้ว

      Ah, interesting that they don't make that massively clear from their website etc when I was researching. Thanks for the heads-up! Just shows it's even more varied and complicated to talk about these as a specific style. Cheers!

    • @ikke12345
      @ikke12345 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@TheCrumbyBeardthey used to brew for West Vleteren. But the rules changed so West Vleteren is brewing a very similar beer inside the monastery. One would be very lucky to get one. You need to phone in to by, they will give you a date and hour to get a crate of beer at the monastery. They only brew what they need to pay the bills. It is not commercially available

    • @dampaul13
      @dampaul13 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@ikke12345 "You need to phone in to by, they will give you a date and hour to get a crate of beer at the monastery"
      Na, things have got a lot easier to buy them, and in greater quantities.
      You can order them online for collection and if you are in Belgium, you can actually order them online and have them delivered.

    • @dampaul13
      @dampaul13 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

      St Bernardus was and has never been a 'Trappist.'
      They brewed Westvleteren under licence.

    • @boereherp8705
      @boereherp8705 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@dampaul13 LMAO You mean St Bernardus, and yes they were a trappist. Educate yourself.

  • @freggel04
    @freggel04 ปีที่แล้ว

    La Trappe not belgian? Beg to differ, didn't Westmalle save La Trappe?

    • @TheCrumbyBeard
      @TheCrumbyBeard  ปีที่แล้ว

      The brewery itself is in The Netherlands and I couldn't find any information to say otherwise, or that Westmalle was involved though there isn't extensive information on their ownership online that I could find. Would be great if you could share any info? Cheers!

    • @freggel04
      @freggel04 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@TheCrumbyBeard I'm sorry, seems I mixed up La Trappe with Achel. My bad 🙄🤫

  • @joelkint1392
    @joelkint1392 ปีที่แล้ว

    the first one foams that much because you poured it wrong and not in the correct glass...

    • @dampaul13
      @dampaul13 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

      The glass would have been fine but it wasn't a good pour and the beer was too warm
      Carbonation breaks out of solution more readily when warmer.
      And with highly carbonated beers like this, it can create issues.

  • @JohanEngelen
    @JohanEngelen 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Trappist beers are brewn within a trappist monastry. So there are no trappist beers brewn all over the world. They are abby beers.
    About the shelf life that is untill opened. I drank trappist that was 25 years old

    • @nicolasemboloni9097
      @nicolasemboloni9097 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      There are trappist monasteries in UK, USA, Austria and Italy brewing what is (officially) trappist beer... en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trappist_beer

    • @dampaul13
      @dampaul13 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@nicolasemboloni9097 The US Trappist brewery ceased operation.

    • @dampaul13
      @dampaul13 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

      The list of official Trappist beers is always changing, and are made in a number of different countries.
      There are Trappist monasteries all over the world.
      If one of these Trappist monasteries made beer, they would technically be Trappist beers, but unrecognised and unable to be sold and labelled using the Trappist logo or labelled as an 'Authentic Trappist Product,' which is overseen by the 'International Trappist Association.'
      The range of products that carry the official logo and/or are recognised by the ITA is varied and rather entertaining; beer, wine, cheese, bread, pork, chocolate, honey, jam, biscuits, mushrooms, candles, olive oil, *cleaning products,* etc.

  • @askaryambus
    @askaryambus ปีที่แล้ว

    wrong glass for these beers...

    • @NeftaliPalma
      @NeftaliPalma 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      What would you suggest

  • @philippeguiot9367
    @philippeguiot9367 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    "La Trappe" is not a belgian trappist beer (Tilburg - The Netherlands). The only 5 belgian Trappist beers are Chimay - Orval - Rochefort - Westmalle - Westvleteren

  • @MaestroBungle
    @MaestroBungle ปีที่แล้ว

    this it the world of trappist beer.... showing a st. Bernardus.... lol.

    • @zunedog31
      @zunedog31 ปีที่แล้ว

      Don't be a dick

  • @MrSerpap
    @MrSerpap ปีที่แล้ว

    OMG The St Bernardus is NOT a TRAPPIST BEEER

  • @laverdisti500
    @laverdisti500 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    St Bernardus is not a trappist beer !!