Slingshot Band Tuning with the Slingshot Canon!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 2 ต.ค. 2024
- Band tuning. It is almost IMPOSSIBLE to overstate how important band tuning is.
As we mentioned in part 1 of this series, bands can really be a conundrum. We send out 7/16 bandsets which are overpowered for almost all enthusiasts who shoot many hundreds of lighter-weight rounds with matched (lighter) bandsets.
But . . . since we (SimpleShot) bring thousands of NEW shooters into the sport for the first time, we have to consider the desire of first-time shooters. You guessed it. They want POWER and when you don't give them power, they tell their friends that slingshots are dumb.
So that's the conundrum.
But there's an answer: tuning.
Our 7/16 bandsets are more latex (energy) than you need for most projectiles. But it's OK. Here, we demonstrate that even a fat band can shoot a 3/8 steel round at s l o w speeds or at a nice clip with just a simple snip of the bands.
Join us in this live demo of the speed possibilities of one bandset shooting 3/8 steel!
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This is by far the best video on explaining how to tune the bands. Thank you for explaining this so well. I have been shooting about 7 years and this was still beneficial to watch. Excellent work.
Thank you and you are very welcome.
Thanks, Nathan, for this video was very informative. I will keep this in mind when cutting my bands. Thank you..
Glad it was helpful!
Good stuff, Mr Masters. Super interesting visual explanation.
Thank you so much.
Great breakdown! Love it!👊🙏
Thank you so much.
Couldn't have demonstrated it any better. Brilliant video Nathan!👍
Thank you so much.
Thank you... and very informative! New shooter here. Just purchased the Scout from you guys. Was a very nice package deal with 500 clay shots and 3 sets of bands. Will purchase again!
quite literally the most advanced and scientific demo on bands ever done.................. Brilliant stuff Nathan!!!!!!!!!
Thank you so much.
Excellent, really excellent!
Glad you liked it!
Nice to know the positive outcome that it can do, very good information Mahalo Nathan
Thank you so much.
Great info! I would love to see a video where you try and seek out the most velocity, as a slingshot hunter I have been playing around with ammo and bands, I use .7mm and 7/16 ammo but I'd still love more power. I think I'm going to find my ideal setup with .6mm tapered bands and 3/8th ammo but I would love any suggestions.
Play with different elongations to find your ideal sweet spot.
With every video I learn something new. Keep them coming.
Thank you so much.
Good Video. I am now shooting 5x elongation on all my frames. Accuracy is the diameter of a soda can at 20 ft.
Thank you so much. That is great to hear!
I tuned my bands to my 26" pull. I wish I could tune my air rifle as easily !!! Thanks Nathan. - Mike in California.
You are very welcome! Glad it helped!
enjoyed that short draw is for me shoot 22 x 16 150 working lenth .55 falcon no bake bean can is cheers Nathan
Thank you so much.
Super video... Great demo... Thanks much
You are very welcome.
Your cannon is neat and the data is clear. It would be good to see draw weight included in your data and data for your other band sets also. Perhaps that is planned in the near future. Your educational component is a great service for all of us.
And maybe include this information as part of the sales information. Standardize on a 30" draw and with this size ammo and this length bandset this is the speed you can expect.
Thank you so much.
That will vary with different temps and elongation factors.
Great video! 500% elongation might not sound like much, but for some type of bands and taper setup 500% is alot and will break the band quickly.
it just depends on the latex.
Great informative video. More new content on band tuning for novice shooters., please. Old videos are all good just like to see your face. Perhaps, cover the differing thicknesses offered and how that is useful.
Thank you so much.
Right now this geezer is without doubt number one in a field of one. Excellent video; informative and so entertainingly presented. Plus I learnt a lot, which is the whole point. I live across the pond on the English/Welsh border and there is just nothing comes close to this sort of stuff around here. Many thanks.
Thank you so much.
Thank you for sharing this.
It is very difficult to explain tuning.
You are very welcome.
Great video and I just received my New SCOUT X and order from SIMPLE-SHOT today. I ordered 1/4” Steel Shot and .7 MM Band set that I intend to leave at Full 10” to make the draw pull as light as possible because of a shoulder injury, I watched many of your videos and I hope I selected the correct combinations.
You are kind of missing the point. You would be much better off using a band set that SimpleShot sells that is sized for 1/4 inch ammo or one designed to shoot 5/16 ammo. I would size them to get an elongation factor of 4. You will have the light draw that you are looking for but get much higher velocities. The 5/16 band set will last longer than the 1/4 inch set and both will draw easier than the .7 band.
Thank you so much. You should get the Lite Flat Bands 1/4" for the 1/4" Steel Ammo. It will be much more pleasant to shoot. The Standard Flat Bands 7/16" are much too strong for 1/4" Steel Ammo.
Informative presentation. Really nicely done. That’s some rig too! Very cool. It’d be really neat shoulder mounted! 😜
Thanks! 👍
That's a great testing rig. Do you have any details on the catch mechanism you're using? Are the forks using torsion springs, with the trigger wedging the forks apart to fire?
Yes, it uses the typical firing mechanism for slingshot rifles that spreads apart to fire.
Awesome setup Nathan!
Thank you so much.
Hi Nathan, new to the hobby - I’m sure you’ve had this Q before - how many times have you been slapped in the face with malfunctioning bands?
With proper watching this should never occur.
@@simpleshot Ok, I assumed you would have had a few anecdotes of mishaps during product development.
I am enjoying the hobby, and your extensive information has shortened the learning curve.
Thanks!
You are very welcome. We are happy to help.
With tapered bands, the weakest link is the connection at the pouch.
But I saw a video where a Chinese wood and metal slingshot broke and it came back at him.
"Fowlers" something was the channel.
Fantastic video on band tuning, tks Nathan for all that SimpleShot does for this sport. 👍
Glad you enjoyed it, it is our pleasure!
Heyyy! Using your other videos I trimmed mine to an 8 inch band! Super cool to see the feeling validated with a Chrono and data!
That's awesome!
That's awesome!
Are all elastics use the 5 rule?
No, different brands of latex will have different elongation factors.
This just goes to show that sometimes less is more in terms of performance and six inches is pretty much the ideal length.
That just depends on the users draw length. 6 inches could be way to long for a shooter with say a 26 inch draw length. If they are after speed, they will need to trim it down some more.
That’s what my wife tells me too
could you do a similar thing but a few different ammo sizes per thickness of rubber to prove your ammo size to rubber thickness relationship you are always talking about ? would be cool to see. and another one measuring impact force lol.. slingshot science
You will see more tests in the future.
I was advice by Slingshot Malaysia 🇲🇾 Admin back in year 2021 to cut my band length from range 180 mm to 140 mm to achieve more power... and yes it really works.
Yes, it will just depend on your draw length.
Latex war unterschiedlich lange gespannt 😢
Nice video, I'm liking that set up , it's vary informative, I've always set my bands at 7 1/4, it just feels good for me and I get pretty good accuracy with that, at about 50ft
Awesome! If it's not broke, don't fix it, right?
Impressive demonstration. Unfortunately, I start to lose accuracy if I cut my bands too short because my arms can’t hold the fork steady and I speed bump pinch the pouch. Thanks for the excellent video.
Thank you so much and you are very welcome.
I need one ?
Thank you so much.
Hi Nathan. I just bought a scout LT and trying to work out the band length. Your calculations are for a 30" draw length but how do I make the calculation as I have a 32.5 inch draw length? Kind regards.
Here is a link that should help.
simple-shot.com/pages/slingshot-faqs#reamaze#0#/kb/slingshot-bands-and-bandsets/band-tuning-how-to-measure-my-bands-tune-my-bands-and-shoot-fastest
Well done. Very helpful
Thank you so much.
There may have been a slightly higher speed with the last shot if it wasn't stretched for as long a time as it was. I tend to hold my draw for 5 seconds as it seems to slow the bands down a fraction to stop me shooting over the top of the target. We need a really scientific video testing band length, tapers, time held and any other variables smarter people can think of😂. Another great video nathen
Thank you so much.
SWEET, thanks Nathan
You are very welcome.
That was with 3/8 ammo? How fast would 7/16 ammo be going with those bands at 5x elongation?
Speeds will vary with the draw length one has. Someone with a 28 inch draw at 5x elongation will not shoot as fast as someone with a 36 inch draw length a=using a 5x elongation.
Should my clay practice ammo weigh the same as my target ammo? Clay ammo is 3/8 ths of an inch and aprox 1 gram and 1/4 th of an inch steel is aprox 1 gram. So more weight than size matters is that correct?
Yes, the weight is what you want to pay attention to. You got it!
With this being stated should you still tune bands specifically for clay ammo ??
Yes, you will still want to trim the Clay Shooting Flat Bands the same way.
I just bought an axiom
Will the ball bearing inside the plugs rust when in contact with water?
Yes, they can rust.
At what minimum FPS rating would you "generally" consider to be appropriate for hunting; accuracy and shot placement being a given requirement?
The distance that it will penetrate a steel bean can. The velocity will drop over distance, so it is best to use this test.
Aren't steel beans diffucultr to chew?@@simpleshot
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Me: tuning my bands bro😂
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I would like to know what size ball bearings you was using for this test .
This was with 3/8" Steel Ammo.
So whatever your draw length is divided (÷) that number by 5 for optimum power?
Great vid Nathan 👌
for optimum power you want to be at the max elongation for whatever elastic you are using. probably closer to 6x but your bands wont last very long and the draw weight will be very heavy!
It will depend on the max elongation of the latex. 500% is ideal for band life vs speed for our latex we sell and use for bands.
Your ammo weight will effect all this as well .
This is assuming you have bands matched for the ammo weight that you are shooting, the results will be similar. If mismatched to the ammo lots of power can be lost. This test is with our Standard Flat Bands 7/16" using 7/16" Steel Ammo.
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Glad you liked it.
So serious question I have the scout x and find that it’s super consistent with clay ammo and clay bands but I’ve recently switched to 7/16 bands with 11mm steel and it’s still consistent but the sight reference is way off I can group solid just not actually hit what I want any suggestions
You may need to change your anchor point. You can also shorten your bands but the 7/16" Steel Ammo will drop at a closer distance since it is heavier than the Clay Ammo.
What is the weight of the ammo you were using?
This will apply to all bandsets matched to ammo but need to be trimmed. The ammo was the 7/16" steel ammo and the Standard Flat Bands 7/16" matched to the 7/16" steel ammo.
Very interesting. Thanks.
Very welcome, glad you liked it.
I'm really glad I ordered a slingshot from you, you have the greatest support of any company. These videos are answering all my questions as a beginner.
Thank you for your support. Glad to help!
Great visual.
Thank you so much.
Great Video
Thanks!
Great video!
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Great video ! Thanks.
You are welcome! Thank you so much.
You are welcome! Thank you so much.
Informacion de primer nivel
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Mabey i missed it ,what weight ammo was you shooting. Good video and information 👌
This was with the 7/16" bandset and ammo.
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Thank you so much.
Get good with a slingshot and put two in your bug out bag. Extra bands of course.
You know it!
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Thank you.
Thank you for showing this, you should sell that tuning jig, or do you have a video showing how to build one? I bought a couple of your sling shots, enjoying them very much!
Thank you, we do not have the Slingshot Cannon for sale. If another one is built, maybe we can record it. 😉
@@simpleshot 🎯Awesome , thank you!
You are very welcome.
Size of bb used plz?
This was the Heavy Duty Flat Bands 7/16" with 7/16" Steel Ammo.
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Can I use heavier bands with those 11mm steel balls?
Will it give more fps?
You will need to test it. There are factors like outside air temperature that will affect the performance. Most of the time, the bands with the least amount of latex needed will shoot the fastest.
Thanks, very good video
Glad you liked it! We hope it helped.
The brand name of your chronograph, please ????
It is a Caldwell Ballistic Precision Chronograph.