LOL! Pfft... Sega Visions. What a joke. I waited SIX months before I finally received my first issue and, even as a young kid, I understood that it was amateur-hour though and through. Sega... Heh. Seemingly always being Sega. LoL
One thing that I wanted to make sure to say in one of these comment threads is that I appreciate your even-handedness and general willingness to engage all of this material on its own terms despite coming across as somebody who does not have the same sort of appreciation for arcade-first design sensibilities as an average Sega fan would.
I like arcade games. I also think home gaming requires a different approach since pay-to-play ceases to be a limiting factor when you don’t have to pump quarters into a slot to keep playing on consoles.
Honestly, that mysterious two-screen/two-system mode for F-16 Fighting Falcon has intrigued me ever since you first mentioned it in the review video, there's just something so incredibly fascinating about weird, one-off technology solutions like this, and particularly for such a seemingly undeserving game. Hopefully I'll get to see it working on real hardware someday, so I can say "oh wow, that's neat" and then move on with the unending march that is life.
I've been loving this Sega journey. The Master System was my first system, and several of my wee Canadian friends also had this thing for some reason. Through the good and the very bad, it's fond memories either way! Thank you, Jeremy!
I wonder if the Sega Master System had a larger share of the market in Canada than it did in the US. The Master System had a different distributor in Canada and some Master System games were released in Canada but not the US.
@@ginormousaurus8394 I don't know the actual numbers, but I think the Master System must have been more prevalent in Canada. I'm from the east coast, and in my neighborhood I knew three other kids who had a Sega, and only about double that who had a Nintendo. There was a lot of Sega around! But I later also bought an NES because, you know... c'mon. Haha!
@@keithmpire I'm from the west coast of Canada and I played my cousins' Master System when I was a kid. The Master System wasn't as common as the NES, but it seemed to be much more common than the Atari 7800. Nowadays I often find Master System cartridges in local stores that sell retro video games while I have never seen an Atari 7800 cartridge for sale.
You assume you are the only child in the home? so you assume wrong... the idea is siblings and all age family members however back then in the 80s and 90s there was a stigma on videogames and even though there was real research data that showed people of older ages and both genders were playing videogames, it was more like a minority and thus most of the marketing tended to alienate girls which is not like how videogames were marketed in Japan for all ages and the entire family... including elders to give a try if they would. Again most of the stigma and marketing kept presenting this idea that the target audience were young boys to twelve year olds which later backfired on Sega and to a point Nintendo when older gamers did not want to be treated to a bunch of little Disney games all over again.
No way, my brothers and I played video games together a lot and with a rotation of my friends and their friends popping in the hang out every now and then. Not a Master System between any of us though, it was all NES and Commodore 64 stuff with us.
SK-1100 keyboards seem to be available on eBay for about $200 apiece, for anyone morbidly curious about how much it'd take to put together their very own F-16 Fighting Falcon multiplayer session.
In the revised version of Alex Kidd in Miracle World (the one where he's eating a hamburger on the map screen) Sega swapped the button layout back to more normal controls! So, they must have received a lot of complaints about that.
I'm here to visit the alternate universe where I owned a Sega growing up. Thankfully, it's an easy universe to visit. And I'd be your friend in that universe! ❤
@@karnovjuniorI had a model 1 master system and a official master system flashcart from stone age gamer The reason was I wasn't paying big money for golden axe warrior, sonic the hedgehog, or James buster Douglas boxing or Micheal Jackson's moonwalker.
There were no magazines that covered the Master System by the time I got one so I was getting games mostly blind, so I guess I was pretty lucky to have had Wonderboy, Action Fighter, Outrun and Alex Kidd (although that was built into the system in Europe) from this selection
These videos are a nice widener of my MS knowledge base. When I was very very tiny my neighbor had a MS and we'd play it quite a bit. He only had a handful of games, of course: Alex Kidd, Sonic 2, Shadow of the Beast and The Ninja. It's nice to see the rest the machine had to offer.
Halfway through, thats incredible. Nice milestone to achieve. Get out the gloves, drop the convertible top and change your plate to curator man....160 to 317 in 12 months
Honestly, _Doki Doki Penguin Land_ looks fun as hell. I dunno why Sega doesn't rerelease that on something. Steam, Switch, w/e. Give it a spitshine and toss it out for $5-10.
it's been quite the journey! looking forward to seeing the back half of the SMS library. honestly I think my top 3 are dragon's trap, black belt and ghostbusters (astro warrior just barely finishing 4th)
The box-art with Wonder Boy sporting his best 80's curls will never cease to amuse me. Man, the 80's... such aesthetic choices. Though I am curious if Dragon Crystal, whenever we get to it, will place on the next top-list. That and Alex Kidd were all I ever got to play on Master System as a kid, and I have no idea if it's even nearly as good as my memories tell me it is.
I was completely absent-minded when following all the Master System episodes, and I'm amazed that we really are halfway there. That means the ever-increasing likelihood of reaching "Ultima IV", although I know that happened in the Master System's near-end of life. I wanna add that, while I did not play the Master System version personally, I did brave through the original Apple II version of the game and decided to write down many helpful notes for new players - because devoid of any context, Ultima IV tends to be a very dense and mystifying game. You're not even exactly sure what you're supposed to do or what the object of the game is. I had to write a super-short mini-FAQ where I wanted to put some basic groundwork and context for new players and I put it on a public pastebin. But today I've become inspired enough to put it on GameFAQs, too. Far from my first contribution on there. I hope people get use out of it.
I don't recall having issues with Rescue Mission last i played it. Using a model 1 genesis with power base converter and light phaser on a crt. Maybe i just got lucky. Wish it wasnt in storage so i could gove it a try now.
Great to see Penguin Land, Gangster Town, and Ghost House get some love! I actually have fond memories of F-16 Fighting Falcon. It looks awful and sounds like nails on a chalkboard, but it was that strange lo-fi charm that made it so alluring. Downing planes and dodging missiles in semi-realistic (computer-like) manner was unique. One I enjoyed not seen here was TransBot. The unique transformation power-ups and soundtrack made it memorable.
We can look forward to Shinobi, Phantasy Star, Power Strike, R-Type, Wonder Boy III: The Dragon's Trap, Alex Kidd in Shinobi World, Castle of Illusion, and Sonic the Hedgehog.
As much as I love Wonder Boy in Monster Land, I am forever irritated that it won't work with a Genesis pad and forces me to use the default Master System controller even on an actual Genesis with the Power Base Converter. I hate that chintzy square D-pad with every fiber of my being.
I’m not gonna lie, I’ve been using an aftermarket controller with an NES-style d-pad for this series. The diagonals on the SMS controller are an act of hate.
Awesome video! Since you're reviewing each game, it only makes sense to stop at some points and recap the high and low lights of what the console had to offer. Maybe you could do a top 25/bottom 15 for the NES when you're a quarter of the way through that library!
Are you thinking of doing Genesis at some point? Your thoughts on the F16 game (clunky controls, terrible graphics, but underneath all that kind of trying to do something interesting and far too complex for the hardware) reminded me immediately of Cyber Cop for the Genesis. That game is pretty unplayable, but it had enough ideas that I kept wanting to find fun in it. It adds an inventory to the Wolfenstein genre, which adds an element of strategy to the proceedings, or it would if you could last long enough for it to matter. Unfortunately the visuals make every floor just an uninflected grey-blue blob, making navigation essentially impossible, which is a problem in a game that wants you to explore to find keys to progress. It almost prefigures the immersive sim genre but it's such an unplayable pile that I don't think anyone really noticed.
You know, I do think a lot of these games are better than the Famicom Pulse Wave series. ...That's not exactly a tall order, though. Ice Climber is the sort of game you dole out to punish a child who isn't behaving.
I guess it is one of life’s little jokes that the worst Master System game out there is also the only one incapable of being played on other platforms due to its kludge of SG-1000 and Master System graphics modes.
I got this console in 2nd or 3rd grade. I was stoked because I got it with an offer of free Double Dragon. Some kind of way something got messed up and i didn't get free Double Dragon, so we exchanged it for an NES. Best decision for my gaming future. edit: I started watching in 144p to get that lofi feel back
Loving the series so far. I know your focus is American releases, but I hope you do some European releases too. It'd be a shame, for instance, to miss out on your review of Sonic the Hedgehog 2 and Sonic Chaos for the Master System, just because they weren't released in the USA. And there are other great games like Micro Machines, for example.
He'd sort of get around to those in a roundabout way if he ever picks up the Game Gear chronology again, although I wouldn't bet on it considering that even Game Boy seems to be on the backburner now.
@@Sixfortyfive I know, at the very least, that Sonic the Hedgehog 2 for the Master System is a bit superior to the Game Gear version, though. Anyway, hopefully we get to see some PAL games, if not all of them.
I think Jeremy did say a good while ago that he'd be willing to cover a small selection of Europe-only Master System games in the future, so maybe he'll eventually cover Sonic 2 8-bit, if only because of how it differs from the Game Gear version in some notable ways.
1st time ever I have seen a channel put Wonder Boy in Monster Land on their list. It's usually Wonder Boy 3 The Dragon's trap. This game is really hard if you don't know what to do in it etc.
@@JeremyParish The Master System was way too late here and the Mega Drive was very early so production was very limited. If I recall only 2 or 3 games even mention "Master System / Mark III" on the box. I have seen only one light gun for sale here in Akihabara and it specifically mentioned being not compatible with Japanese consoles. The Master System was marketed here as an updated unit with the FM sound chip integrated and having better contacts for the cartridge and card ports as the Mark III was iffy at times. Unscientific but I would estimate you see about 10 times more used Mark III units for sale here than Master System, and the ratio is even wider for complete and boxed.
I miss this game so much! Nice video! My favorite is lord of the sword. By the way, Im trying to find a pirate ship game for a long time and I haven't got any luck. It was a pirate game which you had your ship, where you travel around big oceans and you encounter other ships, you could battle it, or interact, don't remember. Does someone know the name of it? I don't remember if it was on Master system or nintendo.
Are you thinking of Pirates!? It was available for various personal computers, the NES, and the Sega Genesis. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sid_Meier%27s_Pirates!
Dunno! It seems good from my limited test drives, but I'm going to be using it for video capture for the first time (for my Ninja Five-O guide) this afternoon.
@@JeremyParish Cool, and thank you! I keep thinking about it, but I haven't seen it in action enough to pull the trigger. And very cool on that Ninja Five-O guide.
While Wonder Boy III was good, I'd have expected Phantasy Star at #1. It's one of the only games that NES kids who never owned a Master System feel like we missed out on.
My take away from this video is even if Nintendo had played fair with Sega in terms of third party development. Master system probably didn't have strong enough support to beat the NES/famicom in Japan and the States. Though unlike say the 7800, I could have definitely seen it being a modest success. It had solid and interesting games, and a really charming color pallet but didn't capitalize on the strengths of console specific game design enough to beat nintendo's slate of exclusives, and while the second half of the console's library definitely leans into that more with games like Wonder boy 3, Phantasy star, and golden axe warrior. it was probably too late. Still a good system though
Damn, that F-16 game is dreadful looking. I can imagine how it plays. But i will take Jeremy's word for it. Too many other games to play to deal with a mess of a game
Watching videos of the games with others narrating their impressions has a way of skewing perception. Playing on original hardware for a few hours is the only way to judge any game
The history of Zillion is more complicated. It is not a licensed anime game. Both the anime and the game were made by Sega to promote their light gun in Japan, which was shaped just like the Zillion gun from the anime. Why is the Zillion game not a light gun game is beyond me
Other than a lack of mercy and arcade focused games the true through line of Master System classics are cute snakes. You know you;'re going to have a good time if the game features cute snakes
Re: WBiML. Weird thing about me--I actually tend to like Action Adventure/RPG games made with coin-op design stylings! It's the timer, which I think usually improves play if it's implemented intelligently. Gauntlet Legends, for example, at home was very grindy, but in arcades with the timed health loss pushing players forward made the game more fun. Lots of RPGs don't provide a good check against players spending a lot of time grinding, and design choices of the past two decades plus have tended to reward grind, in more games than just RPGs.
I know you did not like Enduro Racer. Check it out again though. You press the d-pad down at the exact moment of you driving over the ramps. That’s what makes the game work. It completely changes the experience from what you experienced in your review to a rhythm type racing game that can get extremely fun. Maybe go back and check it out. It is an awesome Master System game once you know about popping the wheelie right at the start of the ramps.
YEeeeeaaaahhh Action Fighter!! Even if you called it Action Hunter!! This is the kinda game that you put on your Ray-ban 3030 Outdoorsmans, crank up Carpenter Brut, open your Camero hood and plug in your SMS right into the v8 engine, and then peel out leaving your wife and kids to
I love your Nes Works vids... but screw the master system. A new video from you is amazing when its not some sega nonsense. Also fun fact. there is no god.
If you compare games that were released for both the NES and the Sega Master System the Master System versions usually look better. "All NES Vs Master System Games Compared Side By Side" by Retro Comparisons th-cam.com/video/4xBTvvJeijM/w-d-xo.html
Unsurprisingly, Sega Visions had nothing to say about Parish's Top Ten and Bottom Five rankings of Master System games.
Does Sega Visions ever say anything!? :P
You talking about Sega Visions the defunct game magazine??
@@RogerPyoko Who?
LOL! Pfft... Sega Visions. What a joke.
I waited SIX months before I finally received my first issue and, even as a young kid, I understood that it was amateur-hour though and through.
Sega... Heh.
Seemingly always being Sega. LoL
Everyone has their own opinions on games. That's how the world works. 😊
This channel has gone 0️⃣ days without a Xevious reference.
One thing that I wanted to make sure to say in one of these comment threads is that I appreciate your even-handedness and general willingness to engage all of this material on its own terms despite coming across as somebody who does not have the same sort of appreciation for arcade-first design sensibilities as an average Sega fan would.
I like arcade games. I also think home gaming requires a different approach since pay-to-play ceases to be a limiting factor when you don’t have to pump quarters into a slot to keep playing on consoles.
Honestly, that mysterious two-screen/two-system mode for F-16 Fighting Falcon has intrigued me ever since you first mentioned it in the review video, there's just something so incredibly fascinating about weird, one-off technology solutions like this, and particularly for such a seemingly undeserving game. Hopefully I'll get to see it working on real hardware someday, so I can say "oh wow, that's neat" and then move on with the unending march that is life.
I hope on day Jeremy releases an audio book titled "1001 Cool Facts about 'Penguin Land'." That would be the ultimate pleasure.
I would have Morgan Freeman narrate tho
15:20 Kung-Fu Heroes isn't even safe from getting dumped on in a Master System video. I respect the dedication.
I've been loving this Sega journey. The Master System was my first system, and several of my wee Canadian friends also had this thing for some reason. Through the good and the very bad, it's fond memories either way! Thank you, Jeremy!
I wonder if the Sega Master System had a larger share of the market in Canada than it did in the US. The Master System had a different distributor in Canada and some Master System games were released in Canada but not the US.
TOP 45 + imo
Afterburner
SoniChaos
Golden Axe
CastleIll
Ghouls n Ghost
GoldenAxeWarrior
Rtype
Kenseiden
Zillion
Reggie Jackson
GunstarH
PhantasyStar
Columns
Baku
Dragontrap
BeyondOasis
DHeady
EarthwormJ
MK1
RoboVTer
Ristar
Rastan
SonicTri
MasterDark
StreetsRage1
AShinobI
Battletoads
KungFuK
JoeMontana
Echo
RoadRash
BatReturns
Alien3
Powerstrike2
Rambo 2
Tazmani
ALIEN STORM
Ninja Gaiden
Strider
Gourvilous
Fantasy Zone
Paperboy
Rampage
Ys
Jang Pung 3
Wolfenstien3d 2022
Masters of Combat
RUNNING BATTLE 💥
DoubleDragon
DONALD DUCK
FANTASY ZONE II
@@ginormousaurus8394 I don't know the actual numbers, but I think the Master System must have been more prevalent in Canada. I'm from the east coast, and in my neighborhood I knew three other kids who had a Sega, and only about double that who had a Nintendo. There was a lot of Sega around! But I later also bought an NES because, you know... c'mon. Haha!
@@keithmpire I'm from the west coast of Canada and I played my cousins' Master System when I was a kid. The Master System wasn't as common as the NES, but it seemed to be much more common than the Atari 7800. Nowadays I often find Master System cartridges in local stores that sell retro video games while I have never seen an Atari 7800 cartridge for sale.
"alex kidd does that master system thing" oh god how i hate that thing
And it’s still not dead! Cassette Beasts does it on Switch!
Asking 80s kids into video games to make a friend is truly one of the most impossible things game developers ever asked of us.
Nonsense. Plenty of us had friends. But friends also into Master System games? Who knew how to play at a decent level?
Not in my part of Pennsylvania.
You assume you are the only child in the home? so you assume wrong... the idea is siblings and all age family members however back then in the 80s and 90s there was a stigma on videogames and even though there was real research data that showed people of older ages and both genders were playing videogames, it was more like a minority and thus most of the marketing tended to alienate girls which is not like how videogames were marketed in Japan for all ages and the entire family... including elders to give a try if they would. Again most of the stigma and marketing kept presenting this idea that the target audience were young boys to twelve year olds which later backfired on Sega and to a point Nintendo when older gamers did not want to be treated to a bunch of little Disney games all over again.
No way, my brothers and I played video games together a lot and with a rotation of my friends and their friends popping in the hang out every now and then. Not a Master System between any of us though, it was all NES and Commodore 64 stuff with us.
Aww, Jeremy, I'm sure a lot of us in the comments would play Gangster Town with you.
SK-1100 keyboards seem to be available on eBay for about $200 apiece, for anyone morbidly curious about how much it'd take to put together their very own F-16 Fighting Falcon multiplayer session.
Ninjutsu and real estate? I didn't realize the Yakuza series started that early.
In the revised version of Alex Kidd in Miracle World (the one where he's eating a hamburger on the map screen) Sega swapped the button layout back to more normal controls!
So, they must have received a lot of complaints about that.
"...a convincing xevious clone after a while" RESET THE CLOCK
I love the Master System. Thanks for making these vids, they've been great
I'm really looking forward to the next few episodes. The SMS port of Shinobi is one of my favourites and Phantasy Star shouldn't be too far behind.
TOP 45 + imo
Afterburner
SoniChaos
Golden Axe
CastleIll
Ghouls n Ghost
GoldenAxeWarrior
Rtype
Kenseiden
Zillion
Reggie Jackson
GunstarH
PhantasyStar
Columns
Baku
Dragontrap
BeyondOasis
DHeady
EarthwormJ
MK1
RoboVTer
Ristar
Rastan
SonicTri
MasterDark
StreetsRage1
AShinobI
Battletoads
KungFuK
JoeMontana
Echo
RoadRash
BatReturns
Alien3
Powerstrike2
Rambo 2
Tazmani
ALIEN STORM
Ninja Gaiden
Strider
Gourvilous
Fantasy Zone
Paperboy
Rampage
Ys
Jang Pung 3
Wolfenstien3d 2022
Masters of Combat
RUNNING BATTLE 💥
DoubleDragon
DONALD DUCK
FANTASY ZONE II
I'm here to visit the alternate universe where I owned a Sega growing up. Thankfully, it's an easy universe to visit. And I'd be your friend in that universe! ❤
I’m here to agree and get angry about
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The Sega Master System is great and one day I like to see a Master System mini that will be awesome. 😀👍🎮
Just get a real system and a flash cart.
@@karnovjuniorI had a model 1 master system and a official master system flashcart from stone age gamer
The reason was I wasn't paying big money for golden axe warrior, sonic the hedgehog, or James buster Douglas boxing or Micheal Jackson's moonwalker.
There's the Game Gear Micro! Also, I do much of my Master System gaming on a hacked Sega Genesis Mini.
TOP 45 + imo
Afterburner
SoniChaos
Golden Axe
CastleIll
Ghouls n Ghost
GoldenAxeWarrior
Rtype
Kenseiden
Zillion
Reggie Jackson
GunstarH
PhantasyStar
Columns
Baku
Dragontrap
BeyondOasis
DHeady
EarthwormJ
MK1
RoboVTer
Ristar
Rastan
SonicTri
MasterDark
StreetsRage1
AShinobI
Battletoads
KungFuK
JoeMontana
Echo
RoadRash
BatReturns
Alien3
Powerstrike2
Rambo 2
Tazmani
ALIEN STORM
Ninja Gaiden
Strider
Gourvilous
Fantasy Zone
Paperboy
Rampage
Ys
Jang Pung 3
Wolfenstien3d 2022
Masters of Combat
RUNNING BATTLE 💥
DoubleDragon
DONALD DUCK
FANTASY ZONE II
Monster land was my favorite as a kid. The last stage is so hard. Jumping up that passageway with the falling blocks was impossible in the best boots!
TOP 45 + imo
Afterburner
SoniChaos
Golden Axe
CastleIll
Ghouls n Ghost
GoldenAxeWarrior
Rtype
Kenseiden
Zillion
Reggie Jackson
GunstarH
PhantasyStar
Columns
Baku
Dragontrap
BeyondOasis
DHeady
EarthwormJ
MK1
RoboVTer
Ristar
Rastan
SonicTri
MasterDark
StreetsRage1
AShinobI
Battletoads
KungFuK
JoeMontana
Echo
RoadRash
BatReturns
Alien3
Powerstrike2
Rambo 2
Tazmani
ALIEN STORM
Ninja Gaiden
Strider
Gourvilous
Fantasy Zone
Paperboy
Rampage
Ys
Jang Pung 3
Wolfenstien3d 2022
Masters of Combat
RUNNING BATTLE 💥
DoubleDragon
DONALD DUCK
FANTASY ZONE II
@@rustymixer2886 Good times!
@@DanielHuman1996 indeed
2:22 Jeremy, you have to shoot back the Hat of your character in order to continue in gangster town! I dunno if you knew.
Thank you for giving my favorite console som love and appreciation ☺
There were no magazines that covered the Master System by the time I got one so I was getting games mostly blind, so I guess I was pretty lucky to have had Wonderboy, Action Fighter, Outrun and Alex Kidd (although that was built into the system in Europe) from this selection
It's always delightful to visit the odd shadow culture of Sega's SMS culture. It really feels like a parallel world all its own.
The My Hero background music is forever burned into my brain.
Same, and I haven't even played the game!
These videos are a nice widener of my MS knowledge base. When I was very very tiny my neighbor had a MS and we'd play it quite a bit. He only had a handful of games, of course: Alex Kidd, Sonic 2, Shadow of the Beast and The Ninja. It's nice to see the rest the machine had to offer.
Halfway through, thats incredible. Nice milestone to achieve. Get out the gloves, drop the convertible top and change your plate to curator man....160 to 317 in 12 months
Also, we are coming in close to Cyborg Hunter. Can't wait to know what you think.
Epic work as always. Your channel is great, just as good as chrontendo :)
Honestly, _Doki Doki Penguin Land_ looks fun as hell. I dunno why Sega doesn't rerelease that on something. Steam, Switch, w/e. Give it a spitshine and toss it out for $5-10.
impossible mission is so obscured nowadays that zillion is so much more known than it, imho
Shinobi/Monopoly is the mashup I never knew I needed.
it's been quite the journey! looking forward to seeing the back half of the SMS library. honestly I think my top 3 are dragon's trap, black belt and ghostbusters (astro warrior just barely finishing 4th)
The box-art with Wonder Boy sporting his best 80's curls will never cease to amuse me. Man, the 80's... such aesthetic choices. Though I am curious if Dragon Crystal, whenever we get to it, will place on the next top-list. That and Alex Kidd were all I ever got to play on Master System as a kid, and I have no idea if it's even nearly as good as my memories tell me it is.
Love the Master System videos. Keep 'em coming
Curiously, Rescue Mission was one of my favorite games back on the SMS. It worked well from what I remember.
In lieu of a 2P friend, I would stream Jeremy Parish blasting his way through Gangster Town with two light guns, John Woo-style.
Jeremy, Pair-ish?
I was completely absent-minded when following all the Master System episodes, and I'm amazed that we really are halfway there. That means the ever-increasing likelihood of reaching "Ultima IV", although I know that happened in the Master System's near-end of life. I wanna add that, while I did not play the Master System version personally, I did brave through the original Apple II version of the game and decided to write down many helpful notes for new players - because devoid of any context, Ultima IV tends to be a very dense and mystifying game. You're not even exactly sure what you're supposed to do or what the object of the game is. I had to write a super-short mini-FAQ where I wanted to put some basic groundwork and context for new players and I put it on a public pastebin. But today I've become inspired enough to put it on GameFAQs, too. Far from my first contribution on there. I hope people get use out of it.
Ultima IV didn’t show up here on Master System, just in Europe/Brazil. Sorry!
The correct description for JJ is "Shounen Jackass."
17:65 "My Hero" may be bad, but the music is so catchy!
Alex Kidd in Miracle World was released in different versions, some had the button scheme swapped
I don't recall having issues with Rescue Mission last i played it. Using a model 1 genesis with power base converter and light phaser on a crt. Maybe i just got lucky. Wish it wasnt in storage so i could gove it a try now.
Great to see Penguin Land, Gangster Town, and Ghost House get some love!
I actually have fond memories of F-16 Fighting Falcon. It looks awful and sounds like nails on a chalkboard, but it was that strange lo-fi charm that made it so alluring. Downing planes and dodging missiles in semi-realistic (computer-like) manner was unique.
One I enjoyed not seen here was TransBot. The unique transformation power-ups and soundtrack made it memorable.
Monster land. For me. The best game by far
Many thanks for your work in this chanel 👍
I think we're all watching your channel because we're nerds young lad.
Rambo 3 with the light gun was brilliant!
I know the SMS had a bunch of great games. Seems that most of them come in the second half of the console’s life.
We can look forward to Shinobi, Phantasy Star, Power Strike, R-Type, Wonder Boy III: The Dragon's Trap, Alex Kidd in Shinobi World, Castle of Illusion, and Sonic the Hedgehog.
As much as I love Wonder Boy in Monster Land, I am forever irritated that it won't work with a Genesis pad and forces me to use the default Master System controller even on an actual Genesis with the Power Base Converter. I hate that chintzy square D-pad with every fiber of my being.
I’m not gonna lie, I’ve been using an aftermarket controller with an NES-style d-pad for this series. The diagonals on the SMS controller are an act of hate.
I love listening to jeremy gush about how sick fantasy zone is
Awesome video! Since you're reviewing each game, it only makes sense to stop at some points and recap the high and low lights of what the console had to offer. Maybe you could do a top 25/bottom 15 for the NES when you're a quarter of the way through that library!
Agree with your My Hero comment. Incredibly frustrating. Hated it back in the day and still hate it now.
Shooting the angels of people you just shot and sending them to hell is pretty metal.
The Prohibition era got its name because it was about prohibiting gangsters from knowing God's grace
Are you thinking of doing Genesis at some point? Your thoughts on the F16 game (clunky controls, terrible graphics, but underneath all that kind of trying to do something interesting and far too complex for the hardware) reminded me immediately of Cyber Cop for the Genesis. That game is pretty unplayable, but it had enough ideas that I kept wanting to find fun in it. It adds an inventory to the Wolfenstein genre, which adds an element of strategy to the proceedings, or it would if you could last long enough for it to matter. Unfortunately the visuals make every floor just an uninflected grey-blue blob, making navigation essentially impossible, which is a problem in a game that wants you to explore to find keys to progress. It almost prefigures the immersive sim genre but it's such an unplayable pile that I don't think anyone really noticed.
I want to see an F16 LAN Party
You know, I do think a lot of these games are better than the Famicom Pulse Wave series.
...That's not exactly a tall order, though. Ice Climber is the sort of game you dole out to punish a child who isn't behaving.
The continued hate for Kung Fu Heroes 😂😂
I guess it is one of life’s little jokes that the worst Master System game out there is also the only one incapable of being played on other platforms due to its kludge of SG-1000 and Master System graphics modes.
I got this console in 2nd or 3rd grade. I was stoked because I got it with an offer of free Double Dragon. Some kind of way something got messed up and i didn't get free Double Dragon, so we exchanged it for an NES. Best decision for my gaming future.
edit: I started watching in 144p to get that lofi feel back
This console is too Brazil for my blood, brutha 😂
I've been trying to beat Action Fighter for a few days now... can't quite get past Stage 4. It's addicting, but man is it tough.
I got F-16 Fighting Falcon for Christmas back in the day. Yikes, it's bad.
Sorry to hear about your terrible childhood Christmas
Loving the series so far. I know your focus is American releases, but I hope you do some European releases too. It'd be a shame, for instance, to miss out on your review of Sonic the Hedgehog 2 and Sonic Chaos for the Master System, just because they weren't released in the USA. And there are other great games like Micro Machines, for example.
He'd sort of get around to those in a roundabout way if he ever picks up the Game Gear chronology again, although I wouldn't bet on it considering that even Game Boy seems to be on the backburner now.
@@Sixfortyfive I know, at the very least, that Sonic the Hedgehog 2 for the Master System is a bit superior to the Game Gear version, though. Anyway, hopefully we get to see some PAL games, if not all of them.
I think Jeremy did say a good while ago that he'd be willing to cover a small selection of Europe-only Master System games in the future, so maybe he'll eventually cover Sonic 2 8-bit, if only because of how it differs from the Game Gear version in some notable ways.
Come on lollipop chainsaw
1st time ever I have seen a channel put Wonder Boy in Monster Land on their list. It's usually Wonder Boy 3 The Dragon's trap. This game is really hard if you don't know what to do in it etc.
What?? Rescue Mission, Great Volleyball and Space Harrier 3D duds?? They are awesome!
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SoniChaos
Golden Axe
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GoldenAxeWarrior
Rtype
Kenseiden
Zillion
Reggie Jackson
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PhantasyStar
Columns
Baku
Dragontrap
BeyondOasis
DHeady
EarthwormJ
MK1
RoboVTer
Ristar
Rastan
SonicTri
MasterDark
StreetsRage1
AShinobI
Battletoads
KungFuK
JoeMontana
Echo
RoadRash
BatReturns
Alien3
Powerstrike2
Rambo 2
Tazmani
ALIEN STORM
Ninja Gaiden
Strider
Gourvilous
Fantasy Zone
Paperboy
Rampage
Ys
Jang Pung 3
Wolfenstien3d 2022
Masters of Combat
RUNNING BATTLE 💥
DoubleDragon
DONALD DUCK
FANTASY ZONE II
I need to get Action Fighter, that looks like good game.
I'm probably the only one who gotten far in My Hero. Once you beat the boss, the game loops so you not missing much.
I spent hours playing f16 fighting falcon. I knew it sucked. I just had to beat all the games I owned
Usually happier about game availability in Japan compared to elsewhere but no Mark III light gun makes me sad
They added support for Light Phaser to the Japanese Master System... but then they never released any light gun games there???
@@JeremyParish The Master System was way too late here and the Mega Drive was very early so production was very limited. If I recall only 2 or 3 games even mention "Master System / Mark III" on the box. I have seen only one light gun for sale here in Akihabara and it specifically mentioned being not compatible with Japanese consoles.
The Master System was marketed here as an updated unit with the FM sound chip integrated and having better contacts for the cartridge and card ports as the Mark III was iffy at times.
Unscientific but I would estimate you see about 10 times more used Mark III units for sale here than Master System, and the ratio is even wider for complete and boxed.
I miss this game so much! Nice video! My favorite is lord of the sword.
By the way, Im trying to find a pirate ship game for a long time and I haven't got any luck.
It was a pirate game which you had your ship, where you travel around big oceans and you encounter other ships, you could battle it, or interact, don't remember.
Does someone know the name of it? I don't remember if it was on Master system or nintendo.
Are you thinking of Pirates!? It was available for various personal computers, the NES, and the Sega Genesis.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sid_Meier%27s_Pirates!
Probably Sid Meier's Pirates!, I'd guess
I see that Analog Pocket and Analogizer back there. How is that Analogizer overall?
Dunno! It seems good from my limited test drives, but I'm going to be using it for video capture for the first time (for my Ninja Five-O guide) this afternoon.
@@JeremyParish Cool, and thank you! I keep thinking about it, but I haven't seen it in action enough to pull the trigger. And very cool on that Ninja Five-O guide.
Any idea if it's possible to get FM synth when SMS games are played on Genesis? That seems like a worthy mod if not.
First system we owned.
While Wonder Boy III was good, I'd have expected Phantasy Star at #1. It's one of the only games that NES kids who never owned a Master System feel like we missed out on.
You kinda missed the entire point of this episode, kid
Phantasy Star 1 hasn't happened yet. Come back later.
@@JeremyParish I meant for the back half of the catalog, since you talked about Wonder Boy III: The Dragon's Trap likely taking the #1 spot.
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SoniChaos
Golden Axe
CastleIll
Ghouls n Ghost
GoldenAxeWarrior
Rtype
Kenseiden
Zillion
Reggie Jackson
GunstarH
PhantasyStar
Columns
Baku
Dragontrap
BeyondOasis
DHeady
EarthwormJ
MK1
RoboVTer
Ristar
Rastan
SonicTri
MasterDark
StreetsRage1
AShinobI
Battletoads
KungFuK
JoeMontana
Echo
RoadRash
BatReturns
Alien3
Powerstrike2
Rambo 2
Tazmani
ALIEN STORM
Ninja Gaiden
Strider
Gourvilous
Fantasy Zone
Paperboy
Rampage
Ys
Jang Pung 3
Wolfenstien3d 2022
Masters of Combat
RUNNING BATTLE 💥
DoubleDragon
DONALD DUCK
FANTASY ZONE II
My take away from this video is even if Nintendo had played fair with Sega in terms of third party development. Master system probably didn't have strong enough support to beat the NES/famicom in Japan and the States. Though unlike say the 7800, I could have definitely seen it being a modest success. It had solid and interesting games, and a really charming color pallet but didn't capitalize on the strengths of console specific game design enough to beat nintendo's slate of exclusives, and while the second half of the console's library definitely leans into that more with games like Wonder boy 3, Phantasy star, and golden axe warrior. it was probably too late. Still a good system though
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Afterburner
SoniChaos
Golden Axe
CastleIll
Ghouls n Ghost
GoldenAxeWarrior
Rtype
Kenseiden
Zillion
Reggie Jackson
GunstarH
PhantasyStar
Columns
Baku
Dragontrap
BeyondOasis
DHeady
EarthwormJ
MK1
RoboVTer
Ristar
Rastan
SonicTri
MasterDark
StreetsRage1
AShinobI
Battletoads
KungFuK
JoeMontana
Echo
RoadRash
BatReturns
Alien3
Powerstrike2
Rambo 2
Tazmani
ALIEN STORM
Ninja Gaiden
Strider
Gourvilous
Fantasy Zone
Paperboy
Rampage
Ys
Jang Pung 3
Wolfenstien3d 2022
Masters of Combat
RUNNING BATTLE 💥
DoubleDragon
DONALD DUCK
FANTASY ZONE II
First American that I’ve heard them say they actually like Alex Kidd. Especially since you didn’t grow up with it.
Damn, that F-16 game is dreadful looking. I can imagine how it plays. But i will take Jeremy's word for it. Too many other games to play to deal with a mess of a game
2:25 Try the opposite: Simply buy a second friend and make a light phaser. Boom, problem solved.
I never was a fan of the Master System. Cool-looking console design, but most of the games were subpar
Watching videos of the games with others narrating their impressions has a way of skewing perception. Playing on original hardware for a few hours is the only way to judge any game
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Afterburner
SoniChaos
Golden Axe
CastleIll
Ghouls n Ghost
GoldenAxeWarrior
Rtype
Kenseiden
Zillion
Reggie Jackson
GunstarH
PhantasyStar
Columns
Baku
Dragontrap
BeyondOasis
DHeady
EarthwormJ
MK1
RoboVTer
Ristar
Rastan
SonicTri
MasterDark
StreetsRage1
AShinobI
Battletoads
KungFuK
JoeMontana
Echo
RoadRash
BatReturns
Alien3
Powerstrike2
Rambo 2
Tazmani
ALIEN STORM
Ninja Gaiden
Strider
Gourvilous
Fantasy Zone
Paperboy
Rampage
Ys
Jang Pung 3
Wolfenstien3d 2022
Masters of Combat
RUNNING BATTLE 💥
DoubleDragon
DONALD DUCK
FANTASY ZONE II
The history of Zillion is more complicated. It is not a licensed anime game. Both the anime and the game were made by Sega to promote their light gun in Japan, which was shaped just like the Zillion gun from the anime. Why is the Zillion game not a light gun game is beyond me
Please see my Zillion and Zillion II episodes for more.
Other than a lack of mercy and arcade focused games the true through line of Master System classics are cute snakes. You know you;'re going to have a good time if the game features cute snakes
Re: WBiML. Weird thing about me--I actually tend to like Action Adventure/RPG games made with coin-op design stylings! It's the timer, which I think usually improves play if it's implemented intelligently. Gauntlet Legends, for example, at home was very grindy, but in arcades with the timed health loss pushing players forward made the game more fun. Lots of RPGs don't provide a good check against players spending a lot of time grinding, and design choices of the past two decades plus have tended to reward grind, in more games than just RPGs.
Are these videos supposed to have the NESWorks end cards?
They're the side story to NESWorks, so yes. (Segaiden, after all.)
Wow you like fantasy zone the maze!
What did Nintendo Power say?
Tell me about that coat
Fantasy zone 2 fantasy zone 2 fantasy zone 2 fantasy zone 2!!!!!!!
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Afterburner
SoniChaos
Golden Axe
CastleIll
Ghouls n Ghost
GoldenAxeWarrior
Rtype
Kenseiden
Zillion
Reggie Jackson
GunstarH
PhantasyStar
Columns
Baku
Dragontrap
BeyondOasis
DHeady
EarthwormJ
MK1
RoboVTer
Ristar
Rastan
SonicTri
MasterDark
StreetsRage1
AShinobI
Battletoads
KungFuK
JoeMontana
Echo
RoadRash
BatReturns
Alien3
Powerstrike2
Rambo 2
Tazmani
ALIEN STORM
Ninja Gaiden
Strider
Gourvilous
Fantasy Zone
Paperboy
Rampage
Ys
Jang Pung 3
Wolfenstien3d 2022
Masters of Combat
RUNNING BATTLE 💥
DoubleDragon
DONALD DUCK
FANTASY ZONE II
I know you did not like Enduro Racer.
Check it out again though.
You press the d-pad down at the exact moment of you driving over the ramps.
That’s what makes the game work. It completely changes the experience from what you experienced in your review to a rhythm type racing game that can get extremely fun.
Maybe go back and check it out. It is an awesome Master System game once you know about popping the wheelie right at the start of the ramps.
YEeeeeaaaahhh Action Fighter!! Even if you called it Action Hunter!! This is the kinda game that you put on your Ray-ban 3030 Outdoorsmans, crank up Carpenter Brut, open your Camero hood and plug in your SMS right into the v8 engine, and then peel out leaving your wife and kids to
Quote, "Not really life changing in any meaningful way." Maybe try switching to BOOK REVIEWS, because... ?
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Afterburner
SoniChaos
Golden Axe
CastleIll
Ghouls n Ghost
GoldenAxeWarrior
Rtype
Kenseiden
Zillion
Reggie Jackson
GunstarH
PhantasyStar
Columns
Baku
Dragontrap
BeyondOasis
DHeady
EarthwormJ
MK1
RoboVTer
Ristar
Rastan
SonicTri
MasterDark
StreetsRage1
AShinobI
Battletoads
KungFuK
JoeMontana
Echo
RoadRash
BatReturns
Alien3
Powerstrike2
Rambo 2
Tazmani
ALIEN STORM
Ninja Gaiden
Strider
Gourvilous
Fantasy Zone
Paperboy
Rampage
Ys
Jang Pung 3
Wolfenstien3d 2022
Masters of Combat
RUNNING BATTLE 💥
DoubleDragon
DONALD DUCK
FANTASY ZONE II
Lost me when he was thrashing Alex kidd
If Ys doesn't get anything less than the royal treatment when its time comes I'm unsubbing.
Sega Master system, the console that should've never been made.
I love your Nes Works vids... but screw the master system. A new video from you is amazing when its not some sega nonsense. Also fun fact. there is no god.
No offense, man, but I think there is some grass out back that needs touching
Get a life, thanks
why mater system games are way uglier than nes?
Um... you have no sense of taste?
@@katherineberger6329 cope
Keep it civil, ya dorks
ALERT: Quarantine needed, we have an outbreak of Nintendo Derangement Syndrome
If you compare games that were released for both the NES and the Sega Master System the Master System versions usually look better.
"All NES Vs Master System Games Compared Side By Side" by Retro Comparisons th-cam.com/video/4xBTvvJeijM/w-d-xo.html
I want to see an F16 LAN Party