So you played 200 Hours in a month, roughly 6.5 hours a day. Basically a full time job sweating a game and you're complaining about lack of content or purpose this quickly into your playtime. Dude, I literally never tell people to touch grass but you seriously need to.
Video game companies like Activision Blizzard need to realize that most people have school/a job/real-world responsibilities outside of the virtual worlds they create. They're beginning to design their games with no respect for our time. It's as though they expect us to sit in front of a screen all day long. I've been playing this game casually (1-2 hours everyday) since launch and I still haven't maxed out my character yet.
If you say it took only "few days" to grind Diablo 2 character you obviously never played D2. I love this level of "journalism" where you compare game you played to a game you never OBVIOUSLY played.
Ber and Jah rune.. this was 8 hours per day on games with 8 guys, lucky to find 1 of em in 10 days😂 if no one stole it first😅, and the gray socket items for the runewords... then have your stuff and socket it, it rolled very low😂😂😂😂OMG
yeah thats also a point that was bs of him...D2 was in my opinion the hardest grind of all Diablos...after that came 3 and Diablo 4 is really the dullest and easiest one to approach and grind.
I did a couple of lvl 80 nms dungeons the other day and got 3 scared items as my end reward now i just spam 60s and 40s mind blowing that you get scared items on lvl 80+ nm tiers like whats the point lol
I think people are missing the point here by just resorting to “of course you’re tired of it you played for 200 hours 😊”. The point is that once you finish the campaign that’s it.. it’s just the same boring repetitive activities that give you awful XP all the way from 60-100. The fact that Nightmare dungeons don’t even give you better loot for pushing harder content is insane as well.
I have gotten much better loot from nightmare dungeons. Maybe go out and get a life and don't play a video game for 200 hours a month. I have fun every time I play it, but I'm also not playing it 16 hours every day.
@@bobbrock4221 comment was posted almost 2 months ago bud. I never even got to 200 hours I was just talking about general shill comments I had seen online. I uninstalled after a few weeks and haven’t had a reason to go back since. Will check it out after an expansion adds an actual endgame but at this point the player base is in a complete free fall
I only got to 64 on my rogue because I felt like there was very little if no upgrades from the loot dropping. I stopped caring about seeing a legendary item drop, it felt so bad to play the game.
no trading system and bad drop chance (like 0,00000001%) are the nails of their coffin... blizzard is just stupid af... they try money milking and thats it... path of exile 2 is everything thats is right in the gaming industry... diablo 4 is everything that is wrong in the gaming industry
Word man, game still needs a lot of fixing to make it feel actually really solid. I'm just baffled at some of the decisions they made into the game, for example the clunky, and incredibly frustrating horse mechanic.
This review is so good... i feel the exact same way (and i didn't play 200 hours). What i don't understand, is that they had a insane good game with d2, failed a bit with the start of d3, but kinda remaster it, and when d4 gets out, it feels like they restart from begining without learning the pros of their game...
D3 sucked ass. Diablo 4 is way better. The games time to reach max is fine , people turbo nerd to Max and wonder why there bored. Yes endgame is lacking a little bit but it will be fixed. These takes are just whiny and entitled.
Well ofc, this time the game is made by Activision with zero old talent and no interest of any kind in making this game becoming a true Arpg. With Activision going full woke lately, their only interest is to milk the fools who remain playing this game as much as possible (full paid battle passes coming s1, including insanely priced shop items like xp boosts, stash space, horse armor with special powers and so on) while giving NOTHING in return, or as little as possible... Sigh, the game doesn't even have numerous standard mechanics every single Arpg/similar game has, even indy ones.. Everyone seems to think there is a full-staffed development team behind D4, because those four fireside chat bums told them so? Lol.. There are more enthusiastic fentanyl-shooting philly homeless bums then those four douches who barely made it through an hour of talking about something they have no idea about. If everyone would spend a moment of their time to check what Activision is doing with all the rest of their franchises atm, all the protests and boycotts going on amongst numerous lawsuits, you'll quickly come to a simple understanding.. D4 has no future.. and you gave 70-100 bucks to one of the worst companies in the world.
There is so much less to do in D2 anyone saying otherwise is just crazy or they are remembering a game differently from their childhood. There is a reason that game flopped on its remaster and a reason there are only like 10 people who still play it…it wasn’t as good as everyone’s memory. Just spend 1 hour watching the 5 people who stream it and then remember how you just rerun the same thing over and over. Saying this game isn’t for you is one thing but to say it’s not as fun or there is less to do in it than d2 is beyond absurd
Guy complains about d4 saying he could max out in d2 in a few days (don't fully believe this take of his) then proceeds to complain the rest of the video about maxing his char which took longer than d2 according to him...
@@MattiasTheGameri could also show a video where people have reached lvl 100 in under 20 hours, and a i am sure you will se people in season 1 maxing out a char in less than 48 hours too.
I am a little bit confused by videos like these. I understand 100% that the grind is gigantic and it should be toned down. But you also did that grind (200 hours worth), in 3 weeks. That's an average of 9.5 hours a day, and I'd feel burned out playing that much, it's more than a 9-5 job. At the same time you are still saying that you don't have many avenues to grind more at the stage you are in. I do get it that once you hit like level 80/85, the gear curve flattens (there is a Tier 5 in the works which I wish was already released). And that's a fair point. Yet, you reached level 100, played 200 hours and beat Uber Lilith. To me that's you beating the game. What else exactly do you want and why does Lilith need to drop anything? You are done at this stage right? I am not at that level so I don't know, is it still hard to beat max level nightmare dungeons after beating Uber Lilith? In which case I can understand why you'd want loot from her. Let's say I finish Mass Effect. I could say, "Well there are just some meaningless side quests to do now that don't reward me". At this stage then I either do them for completionism or I roll an alt. Or I switch to multiplayer where I do the same maps for 200/300 hours on top of the campaign, grinding equipment packs to upgrade stuff or finding new equipment. This takes me much longer than 3 weeks and at that stage I am done with the game and move on until the itch to play Mass Effect comes back. Unlike Mass Effect, Diablo will have seasons. I am just not sure what people expect.
The grind just broke me today. Not going to bother with Lilith. Tried her. Switched my Build and Paragon to my strongest set up(Ice Sorc)wasn't enough. I hate that they let me have success doing what I was doing and then forcing me to play a build I read about on Reddit or TH-cam to beat the last boss? Its also way too expensive to experiment. Moving a Skill Point costs 75K+ at level 100.
Here’s a hint. Games aren’t made for people to play 10 hours a day, 7 days a week. I believe the “grind” is too excessive, but it’s there to artificially keep people interested in the game. It often backfires and drives players away, but it’s intended purpose is to keep people engaged and avoid what “TH-camrs” have come across…’finishing’ a game in two weeks and looking for something new to play. Hopefully the seasonal play will help with this. Maybe it’s more of a statement on today’s gamers’ mindset, but any other game would be heralded for having 200 hours of gameplay on one character. A good RPG is usually said to have a proper length of 40-80 hours. 200 hours is an insane time to play a game, especially in less than a month. D4 has it’s shortcomings, but failure to cater to full-time-job-gamers isn’t one of them. Sorry. A median adult gamer puts in about 8-10 hours a week playing games. That’s their target audience, not “professional gamers” who get bored after “ONLY” 200 hours. D2 didn’t have enough to keep you busy with new things to do on one character for 200 hours, either. You knew what bosses dropped the items you wanted and just killed them thousands of times until you got what you were looking for…possibly the worst loot system ever unless you are just looking to run it in a mechanical, methodical way, but there’s no excitement or wonder in that. No sense of adventure or surprise. Just beat the piñata until the candy falls out.
Agree .. these youtubers rush through the game and than ruin it for all the general players. Making new content takes time and its not meant to be finished in one day.
There's no excuse for this many design flaws in AAA game that they charged $100 for and refuse to give refunds. The worse part about all this is they just lie to the players faces at these fireside chats. Saying they'll have something fixed 4 to 6 months from now when the majority of issues are simple number tweaks that they could do on weekly basis (league of legends has been doing it for a decade now) I didn't no life it like the youtubers but when I finally got lvl 80 and realized that pushing higher key NM dungeons was a waste of time and that I'd have to invest 10hrs of farming just to be able to try another spec of the class, I abruptly quit. Even up until that point I was looking desperately for the items to finally make the build feel good but honestly it was mostly frustration of clunky playstyle, dying to CC chains and stupid affixes that make the game frustrating to play for no reason. I had more frustration in the 100hrs of D4 than I did in 1000hrs+ of Grim Dawn.
It felt like the disastrous announcement of Diablo Immortal at BlizzCon made the big bosses rush for an early release of Diablo 4. Look at how many years they spent on developing Diablo 2 and 3. I reckon that if they had 2 or 3 extra years for game development, Diablo 4 would have been in a better state.
@@DeljoNessaj 200 hours. At a 1$ per hour of your payment rate. You did more than double. There is no "trash game". He got his value out of it. It's over, time for another adventure.
imagine spending $100 on a game, only to find out you're basically a beta tester and the designers are intentionally making the game worse to encourage microtransaction.
1 reason I'm tired of TH-camrs/Streamers: Games are not made to be rushed through content in 1-2 weeks. You're tired of the game because you're playing it way to much in a way to short laps of time. When games are made, they have in mind you'll play 2-3 hours a day. The fact you have 200+ hours of game play in a month (meaning it's equivalent to 5 weeks of WORK 40h/week) shows you're not playing games like most people are.
I feel the same way I’m a solo lv 100 Rogue with 250 hours played and 80+ Uniques from 85+ enemies killed Uber Lilith completed up to T96 so Far and it just feels like there’s no incentive to play rn especially since higher level content means nothing in a mmo rpg game and that makes no sense. Drop rates are horrendous it’s like trying to win a lottery then there’s no trading and no way to increase these drop rates ye I’ll probably wait till season 1 to see if they changed anything.
Blizzard should take this video and implement every suggestion. Honestly all fair points and definitely felt by a large percentage of the player base, even much earlier than the 200 hours mark.
If a game doesn't have a STORY, or FPS precision, or a extremely fun gameplay, its not good. FPS shooters need the feel, Story dont need graphics, but characters and places, and like Among us has fun gameplay. What does diablo 4 have? A bit of story, nothing else.
Some of the fundamental flaws of D4: - 1) No level scaling on gear - 2) Boring unique effects (unique effects just make builds viable rather than making abilities way cooler - Pulverize shockwave aspect is cooler than most uniques) 3) Difficulty gear scaling - Nightmare Dungeon tiers should add item level - 4) No progression past level 70 - 5) No reason to do certain content.
and no trading system at all... everybody is keep forgetting that... before d4 release... all ppl and all streamer were screaming for a better trading system... and now there is none... and non one seems to care^^ am i in a parralel universe???
wrong. hardest content the game has to offer would be tier 100 Nightmare dungeon after doing uber lillith ON HARDCORE without SOE and cheat death and probably getting at least 20 player kills on hardcore as well, try again.
List causes of death D4 Players no matter how many millions your damage output is: - immobilize by one tiny spider web laying on ground/freeze/wind spells and Enemies Mob straight gangbang you. - DoT Poisoned and Sting Bee - accidentally standing on an explosion circle - lag - you have no idea what killed you 😅
1 FREEZE OR STUNS YOU CAN USE A SKILL TO BREAK 2 DAMAGE YOU CAN AVOID OR PREVENT OR GEAR TO REDUCE 3 JUST UNLUCKY IDIOT OR SKILL ISSUE 4 IN HC CAN BE PREVENTED WITH ITEMS 5 YES YOU HAVE NO IDEA AT ALL
Fair points a part from the reason on why you love diablo 2 compared to diablo 4. You like the fact that in diablo 2 you can get a sense of your characters full capability pretty early(100% agree on this) yet you want rewards locked behind the hardest content in the game, only completed by a few percentage of the people. Locking a special item behind uber lilith basically makes the game very inaccessible for most people and kinda contradicts the reason you like D2. Imo. Nothing should be locked from people who simply doesn't have the time to get to it. If this is to be a thing then full trading has to be implemented!
I actually kinda feel his complaint on d4 very contradicting with how he like d2. Ya, especially locking loots behind most difficult content. And that auction house suggestion.
To be honnest, your point with worldbosses having special rewards looked behind them also contradict the accessability of diablo 2. Having timed events forcing you to log on, very much contradicts the relaxing endgame of Diablo 2. If you whant them to give special rewards they should lock them behind summons instead of hours of the day. This will make it accessible for every one. you can just farm the items needed for a sumon and go kill it. To bad this is probably not possible in a good way since it is an mmo and everyone can do these summonings and they would spawn all the time. Or they would have to make the grind to summon them super hard(to hard).
So those who rushed to the end in under the 1st month are complaining that they have nothing to do. Am I missing something? The map issue I agree with though
What rush? i don't have many commitments outside of work, so i have spare time to play if i want. I didn't rush in anyway and hit 100. Some people just have more time than others
I'd say there should be an option at the vendor where you could choose from what point in terms of power level items should be sold because first thing what I look in an item is 700+ power level so I could manage to get to the next breakpoint after upgrading it.
you want a big change? Sure! Another 70$ and they will ship you a fully fledged diablo 4 game in 3 years. The first 70$ we paid blizzard is to test a half baked game The final 70$ payment (along with numerous seasonal pass) is for them to fix the game.
Imagine complaining after spending 200 hours in under a month. You're not the average gamer. The average gamer is a person who comes home after a long day of work, or school or training and sits for an hour or two drinking beer or coffee. Me and my friends coop at night and still enjoy the game. Because we don't rush.
They should just make NM dungeons increase average item level of drops per tier (1-2 per tier). When you run tier 100 NM dungeons, have a chance to find a 101-110 sigil. That tier 101-110 sigil has a chance to drop a higher tier. Each NM dungeon above 100 becomes exponentially harder and are timed. That way there is no theoretical gear item level limit and you can grind to your hearts content. You'd get a mega dopamine rush if you found a 101+ sigil. - Is this a good idea?
if you play 200+ then of course youll get tired. i bet the reason why you are sad is because d2 can get you a lot of real $$ if you get the items that everyone wants. drop rate is fine
What if higher tier dungeons exponentially increased chance of those insanely rare uniques? That could be a good start as very few players can do those insanely high NM tiers righht? (I'm only 74 so I dont know for sure but that's what it seems like)
I got to level 60, managed to do the second capstone dungeon, did all side quests, got all altars of Lilith, and now I just found out that the end game is Helltides and Dungeons, and it takes FOREVER to level up, I'm considering uninstalling. The endgame loop have to be more interesting than this. I'm already tired of Helltides and Dungeons.
There is not a single player ouut here in the wild that would complain if they would delay season 2 and instead work on literally everything that was talked about in this video since these are all common complaints... Nobody cares about blizzards working schedule and internal set dates for seasons and so on. All of this fixed would make the game so much more enjoyable and people would actually play for 12 hours each day instead of 2 nightmare dungeons not noticing the xp bar move and rage quit to play diablo 2 again... Diablo 4 is so good but it lacks so many small things that we already had in previous diablo titles wich makes it really boring in the late game
Why not be able to go into dungeons with random people appearing that just went into a dungeon? Just make it if other players are around when you go into a dungeon together increase the dungeon scaling.
@@Malam_13 it adds more to the game. Greater rewards, harder difficulty, plus it makes more sense to the reality aspects. If you see someone go into a dungeon after 30 secs you can go in by yourself? I personally feel it would add more to the experience.
@@strykerhalo that would literally ruin dungeon experience outside a team. If ut would work this way, you could never clear a full dungeon cause someone already cleared it. In a team monsters already scale. Just get friends. This is like classic wow mob hunting. You wanna get in a line while the monsters respawn?
the game's many systems are designed at odds with one another. they intend for the game to hav mass appeal, but make it grindy as hell. they want the game to be casual/beginner friendly, yet make respec costs be astronomical later on. respecs are most punishing than dying in endgame activities. the drop rates are low, nothing in the game feels rewarding, the loot is boring. it is the worst arpg i've ever played outside of the actual combat. everything else besides the combat is the worst thing i've experienced in an arpg. season 1 better be godly
The gambling analogy is more like the slot machine is rigged AND you're already a millionaire, so hitting the jackpot wouldn't be that exicitng anyways.
I'm one of the filthy casuals. Played through the story line once on veteran 2 with a necromancer minion build and genuinely enjoyed the main story/cut-scenes. I like that they fully voiced the side quests and environmental design/graphics was very good. Watching you open the shop surprised me I didn't realize it had one in my play through. I was bored of the combat and gameplay loop before the end and while I do think the main story was worth the purchase I uninstalled after the main story ended and it sent me to the tree of whispers to start hunting shit? IDK. Think I'm at 30 total hours played, hope they improve the game to make you happy. Players like me didn't stick around long enough to notice the problems.
I can't say I agree with much if anything in this video. I played all the Diablo games and I enjoy the grind to 100, currently 90. The game should be a grind. You should expect to grind for hours on getting perfect gear, that's what an arpg is. The players nowadays always need a reward to justify their time spent instead. You do know they had a AH in D3 at launch and was taken out as it was a bad idea. They won't do that again. Learn to wait for improvements and don't expect them to fix everything in 3 weeks.
Thanks for your comment!! I appreciated the grind to lv100 too. But I don't feel like going through that process for every character :D I'd say the total exp required for lvl100 is fine, but I'd love it if the exp required was pushed towards the later levels (like in Diablo 2). It took me only 2 hours in D4 between lvl99 and 100. Seemed weird. So do you prefer the game to have ZERO ability to find trades in game (like in its current state) and for people to resort to 3rd party sites? Of course a real money auction house is bad, but how is making trading easier for people a bad thing? I'd love to hear your thoughts!
True it isn't normal but his points are still valid. People with only 40hrs in are already experiencing the same problems but at least they have someone to tell them to stop playing now because it doesn't get better
I stopped playing over a week ago. It's extremely boring after a while, even Last Epoch has more content in early access than this game. It has the same problem as D3 at release. They learned nothing from it and released a bare bones experience that will get updated again over the next 10 years like D3...
HOW MANY YEARS HAS LAST EPOCH BEEN IN DEVELPOMENT, THE FACT ITS STILL EARLY ACCESS IS JUST A JOKE TOO, TRY THINKING JUST A LITTLE WHEN MAKING A POINT PLEASE.
Trading - Blizzard wants you to think it's made for the normal Diablo4 player, but it's NOT.... It's only purpose is to increase their sales, by designing the itemization so that it's worth farming for bots, which sells gold and items for real money. Bots requires more copies of D4, they get banned for botting and has to buy the game again, endless cycle. There is literally no way of trading in the game, only among your own friends.. Using 3rd party sides for trading, is bannable...
btw blizzard made yellow items better and usabe but increased the usage of stash space with yellow items, elixirs, keys and all that by way to much. we lost stash space and gained things we need to stash.... thanks i guess, not...
You got tired because you played 200 hours lol. Don't take games seriously and enjoy the ride! The game hasn't been out a month and it's not a good thing you are already tired. Don't have to overdo it. Let it be work or gym, don't try to cram everyday.
@@titomattos you must be new to life. Anything in excesive is bad for you and you will find red flags for anything. Personal, leisure, business, eating, exercise, sex. Are there problems in D4, sure. What thing or human doesn't have problems? No amount of problems will underwhelm excessive use. Next question please.
Your points are straight to point but thumbnail and video title name puts on very negative effext i suggest u change that and which rogue build would u suggest just discoveres ur channel and planning to play rogue on season which build of rogue can clear the dungs faster than others
lol imagine Rushing through the game and then saying you're tired of it.. why does everyone think its a Race.. if you have 1 hour a day to play there is PLENTY of Content that will keep you busy for Months.. my friend takes his time and had game since launch and he is only lvl 45 and still loving the game.. Everyone just rush to 100 and skip everything and then say they are bored lol
these are people who play for eight hours, have no life and then complain that they don't have anything to do.. blizzard should release content for people like this every two weeks..
This, also the meta of searching for builds in youtube, and fast lvl etc, people ruins the fun by thenselves and then complain. I play like 2 hours a day since day 1 and still having a lot of fun, its an amazing game.
Most of the problems you have with the game is because they tried to make it like D2, eg. the huge grind to max level, super rare items. And your suggested fixes are more like D3, eg. quick leveling to max, in game auction house. You're basically admitting D3 was a better game than D2. In case you didn't know, slot machines are actually designed to make you lose in the long run.
yeah, except there was no level scaling in d2. mobs didnt get more powerful everytime you level. it was just straight up normal, nightmare, and hell. the only scaling that happened in d2 was when more players joined the game.
2:15 How I feel playing any Diablo game and I just find a shield or weapon so good that I cycle through my entire gear three or four times, and never find anything to replace THAT damn one! And it's weird randomly finding that one item that is so good that it feels like a skip option just plowing through a major part of the campaign on that one alone. WHY is it at such a low level and better than 5 levels ahead!
Couldn't agree more. specially the leveling in this game. Its so frustrating. in POE you level fast to a point when the farming is meaningful and helps you progress. I reached level 75 with my rogue and i had enough. it was really a hard struggle and i can't take it any more. i think i will wait till they will improve the game like you said in the video.
10 years old poe vs 1 month diablo 4. Hey pls check ss1 content. Give it some time to complete. Poe before 2. have nothing todo after kill dominus too. Now i can kill all bosses in poe after 3 4 days off play and quit the league after 2 weeks, powercreep go zomzom and kill everything is getting boring and boring overtime.
@@NeloGTz well, i'm not a zoom zoom player. i want to enjoy the game. play it my own pace. i'm not playing poe for 1-2 weeks and quit. i like to try things. and since i work like 10 hours a day ( some times more ) i play poe seasons for like a month and a half. depends if the season is good. but D4 is something else. not many players reach level 90-95. they give up on the way .
@@pazh8701 I never play the same build twice, and I build it all by myself, sometimes I upload it to my youtube channel. Everyone has to work. maybe I play faster than you so I get to the end game and finish my build faster. but since the last 3 or 4 years, poe's new season is getting more and more broken and empty, it's rare to have a season with good content. nothing but broken merchanic, broken crafting method for more and more broken item. Everyone is coping the same build and go zomzom kill all bosses with 1 button.
At what stage did the game require you level as fast as possible? Enjoy it for what it is, a game. Play the journey. A more efficient use of your time might be go and get a job or go back to POE.
The grind isnt even that bad though. Every 10 levels or so I can grind out a good full set in like 2 hours. At level 100 I grinded out a great full set in a few hours and my player is pretty much max now. I dont see the issue? Fields if hatred, some of the best gear I have is from those areas…. And the PvP itself is heaps of fun.
Tbh this sounds like complaining that Blizzard are being too slow in adding content to the game after you finished effectively everything that Diablo 4 currently has to offer. That stuff does take time, you know? It doesn't magically get made instantly.
"The game demands too much time" "There is nothing else to do now" "Why is there nothing that drops only from world bosses" "Why do forgotten souls only drop in Helltides?" This dude is a walking controversy. Maybe think a little before talking.
Yesss, especially not enough variety with your build/aspects/rare legendaries. I played a blood necro from lvl 1-100 and it's so sad that there are no aspects or legendary that changes skills/playstyle . It's all just damage or tank boosts...
I feel similarly, i do plan on trying other characters but i feel less motivated to work on my main as much after lvl 100 I got a level 60 hardcore too but ive slowed down a lot in the last few days
yeah, except D2 had no level scaling so the mobs didnt get stronger as you level up. trading was easy, so even if you dont have the right runes or gears, you can trade people for it. you didnt even need to be max level on D2.
Well playing 200 + hours and you wonder why you are a bit tired and crave a break. Try and do the math. The avarage player might play 2 to 3 hours a day that might even be a bit high. Lets say for the sake of the agument that it amounts to 20 hours a week. Thats 10 weeks at the least. Wich means 2 and a half month. You swallowed it in less than a month.
cant wait to drop a Shako on my lvl 100 character and use it on my alts, oh wait they have to be lvl 100 to use it aswel for some unknown reason besides the item level will be the same if it was dropped on lvl 60 or lvl 100. (i know it can only drop on 85+ monsters, but you get the point.) Chase items without Trade are just unrealistic and not exciting.
You have 200+ hours in the game since release and you want to get to 100 faster??? Is the game designed to even be played for 8 hours a day 7 days a week, the "player base" of Diablo 4 aren't streamers.
so what was the reason to grind in d2? oh yes, so that you can grind better :D arpg's are grind fests.. you grind for the sake of grinding - no clue where this endgame bs is coming from.. the only reason to grind is bc you like it, that's all
It does not , specially if you like rps and are not looking for another mmo. This is a mmo game , level scaling is beyond stupid and absolutely lazy , nullifiying the point of rpgs , always online , you can not play alone like in d2 and d3 , no option for like a private game. No real focus : the game does not really know what it wants to be , mmo ? Rpg ? Mobile game ? It is WAY more a mmo with mobile game boss mechanics than a rpg. Played 2 days and dropped it , tried to refund it to no avail , level scaling needs to be removed for me to even consider launching the game ever again and that will not happen as it would require to a tally develop the game , consider pacing, making areas where mobs are within certain ranges of levels , having proper loot tables... yeah too much time wasted on all that when you can just improve the in game cash shop. Trying last epoch next , way cheaper too.
I agree. I've put like 5 or 6 in game days in and im lvl 91. I work a full time job as well. The stash is horrible. I only have 1 character bc I can't use the stash for my other ones. And one of my biggest things is I want to change my build up BUT it's so tedious and expensive and I don't have enough stash or organization to do it. Rn I'm a melee rogue. I want to try range out but then I have to kina switch up my gear and stuff barely have stash space to switch out. My character inventory is also 2 rows full at all times. It's horrible. I just got my first glif to 21. I think the thing is they never wanted ppl to make it this far so early on. Since this game is supposed to go on for years they wanted it to be slower and ppl to take their time and stuff but obviously tou have the ppl who play for a living make content and some who can put the time in that get this stuff done very fast. I agree about the uber rare uniques also. They should increase the drop rate BUT still be very rare. I still love the game but I NEED more stash and faster Lvling to really try all the characters out. For now I'm a rogue. The first season I'll go sorc or rogue again idk honestly. But im excited for what's to come but they need to fix this stuff.
Same feelings here, so sad to be labeled as hater each time you make a point. And the game is preciselly that a Beta for entire map, I have been saying it since day one myself. Not even 1 good feature that all the other good games out there has its being found in this game, not even from D3... Is a rushed project and guys like some "gaming journalist " and content creators feels the opposite and that we are to harsh, on a game that barely has any diversity and meaning. Well maybe in 5 seasons time when they decide to wake up (and hope not on gamers expense aka to charge for everything). P. S. If they would have not fixed/introduced teleport I think we could have shurelly talked about a dead game already.
I just want The Paladin Back! Or some Knightly Type in Shiny Plate Armor that can take a beating if he go tanking or something in between dps and tank... I know we have the big wild man! But he is not a knight type! I want 1 hand sword and shield or a 2 hand sword or 2 hand mace like the paladins in wow... Sometime I wish the Loot rate and how stuff drops and gear way. And how to put your gear together and the builds and so on was closer to D2 The Game just closer to D2! And ofc I wish we had like 5 personal stash tabs! Per character. And 10 shared stash tabs or something like that And now we can only have 10 character 2 per class... Male and Female... Would love to have like 4 per Class character. So we had like 20 slots or maybe 40 slots... And especially when we have seasons!
I don’t see how yall made it to lvl 100 without giving up or making a new character. I’m lvl 77 struggling just to make it to 80. Just repetitive as hell and not getting shit for these high tier nightmare dungeons. Barely any paragon node points.
3:21 Most people are spamming low tier nightmare dungeons because they just want to power level, and maybe thats why there's only 6 people that have found a super unique. We don't know which would be the better route to take due to lack of data. I know for a fact, that im getting higher item power drops doing higher tier nightmare dungeons 70+
@@royc6446 devs said super rare drops are tied to monster level, no one asked if you levelled every glyph or why you would be dumb enough to level glyphs you will never use.
@@345345345345345435 if I’m spamming nightmare dungeons I might as well put my xp into glyph if I have all the ones leveled for my build common sense should tell you that but I guess ur dumb.
Right after I beat Lillith and the campaign mode, I wasn't sure what to do next in the game. I went from Veteran all the way to Torment Tier 4 dungeon with HOTA Barbarian build at level 65 with complete item builds in 5 days. I tried PvP, Helltides and the Whisper Tree but it seemed pointless once you beat the story campaign. It just feels like Runescape when you maxed out level and getting all the items. You kinda ask yourself what am i doing and what is the point of this. I just uninstalled the game and went back to my fishing hobby and I feel like Diablo 4 was a great short game. Nothing beyond that. Id say play the campaign story and your done.
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200 hours in a month…no wonder you’re tired of it.
Yeah that's more than a full-time job.
Tbh!!!!!! So much hours and you tired we’ll play something else hahah
Or the game fuckn sucks and anyone past lvl 80 knows that
Talk about a hustle.
mfw dude says "there's nothing to do" with 1200 hrs played on steam : |
So you played 200 Hours in a month, roughly 6.5 hours a day. Basically a full time job sweating a game and you're complaining about lack of content or purpose this quickly into your playtime.
Dude, I literally never tell people to touch grass but you seriously need to.
This is so true ! Harder content does not give you better loot 🤯 I 100% agree with you. So much potential going to waste….
Video game companies like Activision Blizzard need to realize that most people have school/a job/real-world responsibilities outside of the virtual worlds they create. They're beginning to design their games with no respect for our time. It's as though they expect us to sit in front of a screen all day long. I've been playing this game casually (1-2 hours everyday) since launch and I still haven't maxed out my character yet.
iam 100% sure... they dont care^^
If you say it took only "few days" to grind Diablo 2 character you obviously never played D2.
I love this level of "journalism" where you compare game you played to a game you never OBVIOUSLY played.
Ber and Jah rune.. this was 8 hours per day on games with 8 guys, lucky to find 1 of em in 10 days😂 if no one stole it first😅, and the gray socket items for the runewords... then have your stuff and socket it, it rolled very low😂😂😂😂OMG
The new attack and damage system is equal to d3 with %, this is garbooo😢😢😢
yeah thats also a point that was bs of him...D2 was in my opinion the hardest grind of all Diablos...after that came 3 and Diablo 4 is really the dullest and easiest one to approach and grind.
you could get to lvl 90 in 1 day in d2 wtf are you talking about?
the grind in d2 is gear based. So getting to level 90 in one day is not a good argument because to get the gear you want can take you years.
I did a couple of lvl 80 nms dungeons the other day and got 3 scared items as my end reward now i just spam 60s and 40s mind blowing that you get scared items on lvl 80+ nm tiers like whats the point lol
I think people are missing the point here by just resorting to “of course you’re tired of it you played for 200 hours 😊”.
The point is that once you finish the campaign that’s it.. it’s just the same boring repetitive activities that give you awful XP all the way from 60-100. The fact that Nightmare dungeons don’t even give you better loot for pushing harder content is insane as well.
Cheers man! Appreciate your input
this is crazy because they also say it like oh you have 30 hours wtf do you know about the game... or you invest 200 hours touch grass lol cant win
I have gotten much better loot from nightmare dungeons. Maybe go out and get a life and don't play a video game for 200 hours a month. I have fun every time I play it, but I'm also not playing it 16 hours every day.
Have you seen my video on why I love d4 :D th-cam.com/video/cX4mabLeTg4/w-d-xo.html@@bobbrock4221
@@bobbrock4221 comment was posted almost 2 months ago bud. I never even got to 200 hours I was just talking about general shill comments I had seen online.
I uninstalled after a few weeks and haven’t had a reason to go back since. Will check it out after an expansion adds an actual endgame but at this point the player base is in a complete free fall
They should add loot filter and search bar on inventory/stash
Yes to this a million times over.
ASAP
I only got to 64 on my rogue because I felt like there was very little if no upgrades from the loot dropping. I stopped caring about seeing a legendary item drop, it felt so bad to play the game.
no trading system and bad drop chance (like 0,00000001%) are the nails of their coffin... blizzard is just stupid af... they try money milking and thats it... path of exile 2 is everything thats is right in the gaming industry... diablo 4 is everything that is wrong in the gaming industry
Word man, game still needs a lot of fixing to make it feel actually really solid. I'm just baffled at some of the decisions they made into the game, for example the clunky, and incredibly frustrating horse mechanic.
The horse makes me think d4 was a console game concept from the beginning 😂
I + this , so much fun slamming into a invisible wall when there are no walls when riding trough a clear path .....
the grind takes longer than in D2? Bro, did you ever touch D2?
The fact that he said that proves he never played D2 like we did.
This review is so good... i feel the exact same way (and i didn't play 200 hours). What i don't understand, is that they had a insane good game with d2, failed a bit with the start of d3, but kinda remaster it, and when d4 gets out, it feels like they restart from begining without learning the pros of their game...
D3 sucked ass. Diablo 4 is way better. The games time to reach max is fine , people turbo nerd to Max and wonder why there bored. Yes endgame is lacking a little bit but it will be fixed. These takes are just whiny and entitled.
Well ofc, this time the game is made by Activision with zero old talent and no interest of any kind in making this game becoming a true Arpg. With Activision going full woke lately, their only interest is to milk the fools who remain playing this game as much as possible (full paid battle passes coming s1, including insanely priced shop items like xp boosts, stash space, horse armor with special powers and so on) while giving NOTHING in return, or as little as possible... Sigh, the game doesn't even have numerous standard mechanics every single Arpg/similar game has, even indy ones..
Everyone seems to think there is a full-staffed development team behind D4, because those four fireside chat bums told them so? Lol.. There are more enthusiastic fentanyl-shooting philly homeless bums then those four douches who barely made it through an hour of talking about something they have no idea about.
If everyone would spend a moment of their time to check what Activision is doing with all the rest of their franchises atm, all the protests and boycotts going on amongst numerous lawsuits, you'll quickly come to a simple understanding.. D4 has no future.. and you gave 70-100 bucks to one of the worst companies in the world.
There is so much less to do in D2 anyone saying otherwise is just crazy or they are remembering a game differently from their childhood. There is a reason that game flopped on its remaster and a reason there are only like 10 people who still play it…it wasn’t as good as everyone’s memory. Just spend 1 hour watching the 5 people who stream it and then remember how you just rerun the same thing over and over. Saying this game isn’t for you is one thing but to say it’s not as fun or there is less to do in it than d2 is beyond absurd
@@MintBerryCrunchyeah. Imagine they would give teleport cooldown and remove enigma
Guy complains about d4 saying he could max out in d2 in a few days (don't fully believe this take of his) then proceeds to complain the rest of the video about maxing his char which took longer than d2 according to him...
Thanks for your comment! I made a video from the last D2 season maxing out a character in 48 hours :D If you're interested!
@@MattiasTheGameri could also show a video where people have reached lvl 100 in under 20 hours, and a i am sure you will se people in season 1 maxing out a char in less than 48 hours too.
@@franciscomarquez7287 Playing solo it's hard to level that fast unfortunately... but the new patch is awesome!
I am a little bit confused by videos like these.
I understand 100% that the grind is gigantic and it should be toned down. But you also did that grind (200 hours worth), in 3 weeks. That's an average of 9.5 hours a day, and I'd feel burned out playing that much, it's more than a 9-5 job.
At the same time you are still saying that you don't have many avenues to grind more at the stage you are in.
I do get it that once you hit like level 80/85, the gear curve flattens (there is a Tier 5 in the works which I wish was already released). And that's a fair point.
Yet, you reached level 100, played 200 hours and beat Uber Lilith. To me that's you beating the game. What else exactly do you want and why does Lilith need to drop anything? You are done at this stage right? I am not at that level so I don't know, is it still hard to beat max level nightmare dungeons after beating Uber Lilith? In which case I can understand why you'd want loot from her.
Let's say I finish Mass Effect. I could say, "Well there are just some meaningless side quests to do now that don't reward me". At this stage then I either do them for completionism or I roll an alt. Or I switch to multiplayer where I do the same maps for 200/300 hours on top of the campaign, grinding equipment packs to upgrade stuff or finding new equipment.
This takes me much longer than 3 weeks and at that stage I am done with the game and move on until the itch to play Mass Effect comes back.
Unlike Mass Effect, Diablo will have seasons.
I am just not sure what people expect.
I just felt many of his complaints are pointless.
This complains are from this streamers and forum lurkers with no life, like the 0000,1% of the player base.
As the game currently stands, would you rather play D3 instead?
yes
The grind just broke me today. Not going to bother with Lilith. Tried her. Switched my Build and Paragon to my strongest set up(Ice Sorc)wasn't enough. I hate that they let me have success doing what I was doing and then forcing me to play a build I read about on Reddit or TH-cam to beat the last boss? Its also way too expensive to experiment. Moving a Skill Point costs 75K+ at level 100.
Here’s a hint. Games aren’t made for people to play 10 hours a day, 7 days a week. I believe the “grind” is too excessive, but it’s there to artificially keep people interested in the game. It often backfires and drives players away, but it’s intended purpose is to keep people engaged and avoid what “TH-camrs” have come across…’finishing’ a game in two weeks and looking for something new to play. Hopefully the seasonal play will help with this.
Maybe it’s more of a statement on today’s gamers’ mindset, but any other game would be heralded for having 200 hours of gameplay on one character. A good RPG is usually said to have a proper length of 40-80 hours. 200 hours is an insane time to play a game, especially in less than a month.
D4 has it’s shortcomings, but failure to cater to full-time-job-gamers isn’t one of them. Sorry. A median adult gamer puts in about 8-10 hours a week playing games. That’s their target audience, not “professional gamers” who get bored after “ONLY” 200 hours. D2 didn’t have enough to keep you busy with new things to do on one character for 200 hours, either. You knew what bosses dropped the items you wanted and just killed them thousands of times until you got what you were looking for…possibly the worst loot system ever unless you are just looking to run it in a mechanical, methodical way, but there’s no excitement or wonder in that. No sense of adventure or surprise. Just beat the piñata until the candy falls out.
Amen to this. Finally someone who speaks sense
Agree .. these youtubers rush through the game and than ruin it for all the general players. Making new content takes time and its not meant to be finished in one day.
There's no excuse for this many design flaws in AAA game that they charged $100 for and refuse to give refunds.
The worse part about all this is they just lie to the players faces at these fireside chats. Saying they'll have something fixed 4 to 6 months from now when the majority of issues are simple number tweaks that they could do on weekly basis (league of legends has been doing it for a decade now)
I didn't no life it like the youtubers but when I finally got lvl 80 and realized that pushing higher key NM dungeons was a waste of time and that I'd have to invest 10hrs of farming just to be able to try another spec of the class, I abruptly quit. Even up until that point I was looking desperately for the items to finally make the build feel good but honestly it was mostly frustration of clunky playstyle, dying to CC chains and stupid affixes that make the game frustrating to play for no reason.
I had more frustration in the 100hrs of D4 than I did in 1000hrs+ of Grim Dawn.
🤔 doesn't lvl 99 in d2 take waaaaw longer? I've played d2 for decades. Never reached 99.
I'll be lvl 100 this week in d4.
This guy never really played D2. He thinks this is more grindy than D2 hahahaha
yes, but the mobs doesnt scale and it's actually easier to find a group compared to diablo 4.
It felt like the disastrous announcement of Diablo Immortal at BlizzCon made the big bosses rush for an early release of Diablo 4. Look at how many years they spent on developing Diablo 2 and 3. I reckon that if they had 2 or 3 extra years for game development, Diablo 4 would have been in a better state.
A lot of the feedback is changes that do not take 2 or 3 extra years, thats the stupid part about this
Brother. .-.
You hit lvl 100, you beat uber lilith. You didn't get tired of the game. You finished the game. Period.
That`s the point. There should be more content and stuff to do. There is nothing. Just a trash game and nothing else
@@DeljoNessaj 200 hours.
At a 1$ per hour of your payment rate.
You did more than double.
There is no "trash game". He got his value out of it. It's over, time for another adventure.
@@DeljoNessaj Hate to break it to you but, at any game, you will reach a point that there's nothing else to do.
"the game runs out of content after 200 hours, unacceptable. 0/10"
@@j.j.410This is such a garbage take and mindset of the average gamer nowadays.
Imagine having a life outside of video games.......
Is that for real ?? 😮😢
imagine spending $100 on a game, only to find out you're basically a beta tester and the designers are intentionally making the game worse to encourage microtransaction.
1 reason I'm tired of TH-camrs/Streamers: Games are not made to be rushed through content in 1-2 weeks. You're tired of the game because you're playing it way to much in a way to short laps of time. When games are made, they have in mind you'll play 2-3 hours a day. The fact you have 200+ hours of game play in a month (meaning it's equivalent to 5 weeks of WORK 40h/week) shows you're not playing games like most people are.
I feel the same way I’m a solo lv 100 Rogue with 250 hours played and 80+ Uniques from 85+ enemies killed Uber Lilith completed up to T96 so Far and it just feels like there’s no incentive to play rn especially since higher level content means nothing in a mmo rpg game and that makes no sense. Drop rates are horrendous it’s like trying to win a lottery then there’s no trading and no way to increase these drop rates ye I’ll probably wait till season 1 to see if they changed anything.
Blizzard should take this video and implement every suggestion. Honestly all fair points and definitely felt by a large percentage of the player base, even much earlier than the 200 hours mark.
If a game doesn't have a STORY, or FPS precision, or a extremely fun gameplay, its not good. FPS shooters need the feel, Story dont need graphics, but characters and places, and like Among us has fun gameplay. What does diablo 4 have? A bit of story, nothing else.
@@ancientslav4863 Diablo is basically buying lootboxes with your time
Some of the fundamental flaws of D4: - 1) No level scaling on gear - 2) Boring unique effects (unique effects just make builds viable rather than making abilities way cooler - Pulverize shockwave aspect is cooler than most uniques) 3) Difficulty gear scaling - Nightmare Dungeon tiers should add item level - 4) No progression past level 70 - 5) No reason to do certain content.
and no trading system at all... everybody is keep forgetting that... before d4 release... all ppl and all streamer were screaming for a better trading system... and now there is none... and non one seems to care^^ am i in a parralel universe???
What’s there to do at level 99 in Diablo 2 that you couldn’t do at 80?
shhhhh.. dont make him realise his arguments are bad
pvping.
wrong. hardest content the game has to offer would be tier 100 Nightmare dungeon after doing uber lillith ON HARDCORE without SOE and cheat death and probably getting at least 20 player kills on hardcore as well, try again.
List causes of death D4 Players no matter how many millions your damage output is:
- immobilize by one tiny spider web laying on ground/freeze/wind spells and Enemies Mob straight gangbang you.
- DoT Poisoned and Sting Bee
- accidentally standing on an explosion circle
- lag
- you have no idea what killed you 😅
1 FREEZE OR STUNS YOU CAN USE A SKILL TO BREAK
2 DAMAGE YOU CAN AVOID OR PREVENT OR GEAR TO REDUCE
3 JUST UNLUCKY IDIOT OR SKILL ISSUE
4 IN HC CAN BE PREVENTED WITH ITEMS
5 YES YOU HAVE NO IDEA AT ALL
Fair points a part from the reason on why you love diablo 2 compared to diablo 4. You like the fact that in diablo 2 you can get a sense of your characters full capability pretty early(100% agree on this) yet you want rewards locked behind the hardest content in the game, only completed by a few percentage of the people. Locking a special item behind uber lilith basically makes the game very inaccessible for most people and kinda contradicts the reason you like D2. Imo. Nothing should be locked from people who simply doesn't have the time to get to it. If this is to be a thing then full trading has to be implemented!
Problem with full trading is whaling.
@@zealootkim3813 whaling?
I actually kinda feel his complaint on d4 very contradicting with how he like d2. Ya, especially locking loots behind most difficult content. And that auction house suggestion.
Agreed
To be honnest, your point with worldbosses having special rewards looked behind them also contradict the accessability of diablo 2. Having timed events forcing you to log on, very much contradicts the relaxing endgame of Diablo 2. If you whant them to give special rewards they should lock them behind summons instead of hours of the day. This will make it accessible for every one. you can just farm the items needed for a sumon and go kill it. To bad this is probably not possible in a good way since it is an mmo and everyone can do these summonings and they would spawn all the time. Or they would have to make the grind to summon them super hard(to hard).
Complaining about having nothing to do after spending 200 hours in-game after less than a month of release is enough reason for anyone to stop playing
So those who rushed to the end in under the 1st month are complaining that they have nothing to do. Am I missing something? The map issue I agree with though
What rush? i don't have many commitments outside of work, so i have spare time to play if i want. I didn't rush in anyway and hit 100. Some people just have more time than others
@@Darkjazerant you are a child then.
I'd say there should be an option at the vendor where you could choose from what point in terms of power level items should be sold because first thing what I look in an item is 700+ power level so I could manage to get to the next breakpoint after upgrading it.
It's Blizzards last time to prove they can change. I don't have much faith, but, we'll see.
you want a big change? Sure!
Another 70$ and they will ship you a fully fledged diablo 4 game in 3 years.
The first 70$ we paid blizzard is to test a half baked game
The final 70$ payment (along with numerous seasonal pass) is for them to fix the game.
This has to be rage bait.
Auction house? No thank you. We had that in D3, it was horrible.
that was a real money AH why do people always leave that part out?
@@steadychasingmoneybands6213 technically, you buy it with gold not with real money.
Complaining that you are being bored of the game after you played it non-stop.. makes no sense at all
You've put 300 hours into a game only a month after launch and you're complaining, love that for you.
people have 30 hours and complain whats your point?
Imagine complaining after spending 200 hours in under a month. You're not the average gamer. The average gamer is a person who comes home after a long day of work, or school or training and sits for an hour or two drinking beer or coffee. Me and my friends coop at night and still enjoy the game. Because we don't rush.
YES! this, im tired of this entitled no life people complaining about great games.
your diablo 2 reason is such hogwash lmao have you really played diablo 2?
They should just make NM dungeons increase average item level of drops per tier (1-2 per tier). When you run tier 100 NM dungeons, have a chance to find a 101-110 sigil. That tier 101-110 sigil has a chance to drop a higher tier. Each NM dungeon above 100 becomes exponentially harder and are timed. That way there is no theoretical gear item level limit and you can grind to your hearts content. You'd get a mega dopamine rush if you found a 101+ sigil. - Is this a good idea?
I like it!!!
if you play 200+ then of course youll get tired.
i bet the reason why you are sad is because d2 can get you a lot of real $$ if you get the items that everyone wants.
drop rate is fine
What if higher tier dungeons exponentially increased chance of those insanely rare uniques? That could be a good start as very few players can do those insanely high NM tiers righht? (I'm only 74 so I dont know for sure but that's what it seems like)
I got to level 60, managed to do the second capstone dungeon, did all side quests, got all altars of Lilith, and now I just found out that the end game is Helltides and Dungeons, and it takes FOREVER to level up, I'm considering uninstalling. The endgame loop have to be more interesting than this. I'm already tired of Helltides and Dungeons.
so you finished the game..people expect blizzard to release contnet every two weeks..
@@Freedom-kl8rt they should've named it an top-down single player experience then. this aint no mmo or arpg.
There is not a single player ouut here in the wild that would complain if they would delay season 2 and instead work on literally everything that was talked about in this video since these are all common complaints... Nobody cares about blizzards working schedule and internal set dates for seasons and so on.
All of this fixed would make the game so much more enjoyable and people would actually play for 12 hours each day instead of 2 nightmare dungeons not noticing the xp bar move and rage quit to play diablo 2 again...
Diablo 4 is so good but it lacks so many small things that we already had in previous diablo titles wich makes it really boring in the late game
Maybe rest more instead of grinding non stop? 200+ hours in this short amount of time? srsly? ofc u will be bored. No need to speed run.
There are so many builds in diablo 3, they should bring those builds to diablo 4
Why not be able to go into dungeons with random people appearing that just went into a dungeon? Just make it if other players are around when you go into a dungeon together increase the dungeon scaling.
What purpose would that serve? You just want to get boosted by randoms or what? Otherwise just find someone who wants to play with you.
@@Malam_13 it adds more to the game. Greater rewards, harder difficulty, plus it makes more sense to the reality aspects. If you see someone go into a dungeon after 30 secs you can go in by yourself? I personally feel it would add more to the experience.
@@strykerhalo that would literally ruin dungeon experience outside a team. If ut would work this way, you could never clear a full dungeon cause someone already cleared it. In a team monsters already scale. Just get friends.
This is like classic wow mob hunting. You wanna get in a line while the monsters respawn?
the game's many systems are designed at odds with one another. they intend for the game to hav mass appeal, but make it grindy as hell. they want the game to be casual/beginner friendly, yet make respec costs be astronomical later on. respecs are most punishing than dying in endgame activities.
the drop rates are low, nothing in the game feels rewarding, the loot is boring. it is the worst arpg i've ever played outside of the actual combat. everything else besides the combat is the worst thing i've experienced in an arpg.
season 1 better be godly
Trash companies will always make trash games. This goes double for live service games.
The gambling analogy is more like the slot machine is rigged AND you're already a millionaire, so hitting the jackpot wouldn't be that exicitng anyways.
I'm one of the filthy casuals. Played through the story line once on veteran 2 with a necromancer minion build and genuinely enjoyed the main story/cut-scenes. I like that they fully voiced the side quests and environmental design/graphics was very good. Watching you open the shop surprised me I didn't realize it had one in my play through. I was bored of the combat and gameplay loop before the end and while I do think the main story was worth the purchase I uninstalled after the main story ended and it sent me to the tree of whispers to start hunting shit? IDK. Think I'm at 30 total hours played, hope they improve the game to make you happy. Players like me didn't stick around long enough to notice the problems.
I can't say I agree with much if anything in this video. I played all the Diablo games and I enjoy the grind to 100, currently 90. The game should be a grind. You should expect to grind for hours on getting perfect gear, that's what an arpg is. The players nowadays always need a reward to justify their time spent instead.
You do know they had a AH in D3 at launch and was taken out as it was a bad idea. They won't do that again.
Learn to wait for improvements and don't expect them to fix everything in 3 weeks.
Thanks for your comment!!
I appreciated the grind to lv100 too. But I don't feel like going through that process for every character :D I'd say the total exp required for lvl100 is fine, but I'd love it if the exp required was pushed towards the later levels (like in Diablo 2). It took me only 2 hours in D4 between lvl99 and 100. Seemed weird.
So do you prefer the game to have ZERO ability to find trades in game (like in its current state) and for people to resort to 3rd party sites? Of course a real money auction house is bad, but how is making trading easier for people a bad thing? I'd love to hear your thoughts!
This video is insane, you played more than 200 hours in less than a month that's not normal.....period.
Talked like a true boomer
True it isn't normal but his points are still valid. People with only 40hrs in are already experiencing the same problems but at least they have someone to tell them to stop playing now because it doesn't get better
I stopped playing over a week ago.
It's extremely boring after a while, even Last Epoch has more content in early access than this game.
It has the same problem as D3 at release. They learned nothing from it and released a bare bones experience that will get updated again over the next 10 years like D3...
HOW MANY YEARS HAS LAST EPOCH BEEN IN DEVELPOMENT, THE FACT ITS STILL EARLY ACCESS IS JUST A JOKE TOO, TRY THINKING JUST A LITTLE WHEN MAKING A POINT PLEASE.
Trading - Blizzard wants you to think it's made for the normal Diablo4 player, but it's NOT.... It's only purpose is to increase their sales, by designing the itemization so that it's worth farming for bots, which sells gold and items for real money. Bots requires more copies of D4, they get banned for botting and has to buy the game again, endless cycle. There is literally no way of trading in the game, only among your own friends.. Using 3rd party sides for trading, is bannable...
btw blizzard made yellow items better and usabe but increased the usage of stash space with yellow items, elixirs, keys and all that by way to much. we lost stash space and gained things we need to stash.... thanks i guess, not...
You got tired because you played 200 hours lol. Don't take games seriously and enjoy the ride! The game hasn't been out a month and it's not a good thing you are already tired. Don't have to overdo it.
Let it be work or gym, don't try to cram everyday.
I’ve been saying the same thing! It’s not the games fault you spend all your time on it.
Lots of people play more than this in multiple games. And still enjoy it.
@@quintit and it's stil unhealthy. Not only for the body but for the mind as well.
No amount of burn out will erase the red flags in d4. Mb accpet criticism and learn that there are a lot of problems in d4?
@@titomattos you must be new to life. Anything in excesive is bad for you and you will find red flags for anything. Personal, leisure, business, eating, exercise, sex.
Are there problems in D4, sure. What thing or human doesn't have problems?
No amount of problems will underwhelm excessive use.
Next question please.
Renown is tedious, no reason to take so long to level when seasons come and we have to keep restarting anyway
Well the live service 'actual' game content hasn't started yet. I mean if you spend 900 hours on the campaign that would get old super fast. I agree.
Your points are straight to point but thumbnail and video title name puts on very negative effext i suggest u change that and which rogue build would u suggest just discoveres ur channel and planning to play rogue on season which build of rogue can clear the dungs faster than others
lol imagine Rushing through the game and then saying you're tired of it.. why does everyone think its a Race.. if you have 1 hour a day to play there is PLENTY of Content that will keep you busy for Months.. my friend takes his time and had game since launch and he is only lvl 45 and still loving the game.. Everyone just rush to 100 and skip everything and then say they are bored lol
these are people who play for eight hours, have no life and then complain that they don't have anything to do.. blizzard should release content for people like this every two weeks..
This, also the meta of searching for builds in youtube, and fast lvl etc, people ruins the fun by thenselves and then complain. I play like 2 hours a day since day 1 and still having a lot of fun, its an amazing game.
Good points! Especially agree with your Helltides point (of not having to go to a web site to find mystery chest locations and event locations).
They could make it , when you find it shows on the map and lvl of chest...Easy , but fuck you give us your money ....
NO NEED TO USE A WEB SITE FOR MYSTERY CHESTS, I GET EVERY ONE, THEY ARE IN THE CORNER OF THE MAPS, IT ISNT ROCKET SCIENCE YOU CLOWN.
Most of the problems you have with the game is because they tried to make it like D2, eg. the huge grind to max level, super rare items. And your suggested fixes are more like D3, eg. quick leveling to max, in game auction house. You're basically admitting D3 was a better game than D2.
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yeah, except there was no level scaling in d2. mobs didnt get more powerful everytime you level. it was just straight up normal, nightmare, and hell. the only scaling that happened in d2 was when more players joined the game.
2:15 How I feel playing any Diablo game and I just find a shield or weapon so good that I cycle through my entire gear three or four times, and never find anything to replace THAT damn one!
And it's weird randomly finding that one item that is so good that it feels like a skip option just plowing through a major part of the campaign on that one alone.
WHY is it at such a low level and better than 5 levels ahead!
Couldn't agree more. specially the leveling in this game. Its so frustrating. in POE you level fast to a point when the farming is meaningful and helps you progress. I reached level 75 with my rogue and i had enough. it was really a hard struggle and i can't take it any more. i think i will wait till they will improve the game like you said in the video.
10 years old poe vs 1 month diablo 4. Hey pls check ss1 content. Give it some time to complete. Poe before 2. have nothing todo after kill dominus too. Now i can kill all bosses in poe after 3 4 days off play and quit the league after 2 weeks, powercreep go zomzom and kill everything is getting boring and boring overtime.
@@NeloGTz well, i'm not a zoom zoom player. i want to enjoy the game. play it my own pace. i'm not playing poe for 1-2 weeks and quit. i like to try things. and since i work like 10 hours a day ( some times more ) i play poe seasons for like a month and a half. depends if the season is good. but D4 is something else. not many players reach level 90-95. they give up on the way .
@@pazh8701 I never play the same build twice, and I build it all by myself, sometimes I upload it to my youtube channel. Everyone has to work. maybe I play faster than you so I get to the end game and finish my build faster. but since the last 3 or 4 years, poe's new season is getting more and more broken and empty, it's rare to have a season with good content. nothing but broken merchanic, broken crafting method for more and more broken item. Everyone is coping the same build and go zomzom kill all bosses with 1 button.
Good thing develepers don't listen to people like you, because when they do...their games die.
At what stage did the game require you level as fast as possible?
Enjoy it for what it is, a game. Play the journey. A more efficient use of your time might be go and get a job or go back to POE.
The grind isnt even that bad though. Every 10 levels or so I can grind out a good full set in like 2 hours. At level 100 I grinded out a great full set in a few hours and my player is pretty much max now. I dont see the issue?
Fields if hatred, some of the best gear I have is from those areas…. And the PvP itself is heaps of fun.
Tbh this sounds like complaining that Blizzard are being too slow in adding content to the game after you finished effectively everything that Diablo 4 currently has to offer. That stuff does take time, you know? It doesn't magically get made instantly.
"The game demands too much time"
"There is nothing else to do now"
"Why is there nothing that drops only from world bosses"
"Why do forgotten souls only drop in Helltides?"
This dude is a walking controversy. Maybe think a little before talking.
Yesss, especially not enough variety with your build/aspects/rare legendaries. I played a blood necro from lvl 1-100 and it's so sad that there are no aspects or legendary that changes skills/playstyle . It's all just damage or tank boosts...
JUST PICKED THE WORST CLASS FOR DIVERSITY ON BUILDS, YOUR MISTAKE.
I feel similarly, i do plan on trying other characters but i feel less motivated to work on my main as much after lvl 100
I got a level 60 hardcore too but ive slowed down a lot in the last few days
Have you even played D2? In couple days you won't have anything, let alone a well geared character. D2's grind is like 10x more brutal.
yeah, except D2 had no level scaling so the mobs didnt get stronger as you level up. trading was easy, so even if you dont have the right runes or gears, you can trade people for it. you didnt even need to be max level on D2.
Well playing 200 + hours and you wonder why you are a bit tired and crave a break. Try and do the math. The avarage player might play 2 to 3 hours a day that might even be a bit high. Lets say for the sake of the agument that it amounts to 20 hours a week. Thats 10 weeks at the least. Wich means 2 and a half month. You swallowed it in less than a month.
cant wait to drop a Shako on my lvl 100 character and use it on my alts, oh wait they have to be lvl 100 to use it aswel for some unknown reason besides the item level will be the same if it was dropped on lvl 60 or lvl 100. (i know it can only drop on 85+ monsters, but you get the point.) Chase items without Trade are just unrealistic and not exciting.
For me i find it a pain to change to a different build.
Yeah. That is the point.
You also need to be able to respec easier. Why make it so difficult to experiment and play with different character builds
You have 200+ hours in the game since release and you want to get to 100 faster??? Is the game designed to even be played for 8 hours a day 7 days a week, the "player base" of Diablo 4 aren't streamers.
I've been telling my friends when we play this game " Man this game will be great in like 2027 season..." Right now its as vanilla as it will be
so what was the reason to grind in d2? oh yes, so that you can grind better :D arpg's are grind fests.. you grind for the sake of grinding - no clue where this endgame bs is coming from.. the only reason to grind is bc you like it, that's all
My problem with diablo 2 is once you get 90 its baal runs over and over and over until your eyes bleed and that shit is hella boring
if d2 is just baal no wonder youre bored...
so your reasons are basically "i rushed to endgame and rushed through the endgame content now i don't have anything to do"
Also make ultimate separate button please.
Your complaints are probably applicable to ever arpg ever made.
Diablo 2 is a way harder grind. Thus you can get lvl 100 in d4 faster than 99 in diablo 2.
Depends if you're trading! 99 in D2 doesn't help your character much, but in D4 lvl100 is essential.
you dont need to be level 99 on diablo 2. it's not necessary. however, in diablo 4, you need to be level 100 to fight uber lilith, etc, etc
Diablo 2 takes wayyyy longer to max out tho…
to get to 99 sure... who does that? you need like lvl 85 and youre set
I'm a POE player, and I'm planning to buy this game. Although I know that the game is descent, is the game worth the 70 dollars right now?
It does not , specially if you like rps and are not looking for another mmo.
This is a mmo game , level scaling is beyond stupid and absolutely lazy , nullifiying the point of rpgs , always online , you can not play alone like in d2 and d3 , no option for like a private game.
No real focus : the game does not really know what it wants to be , mmo ? Rpg ? Mobile game ? It is WAY more a mmo with mobile game boss mechanics than a rpg.
Played 2 days and dropped it , tried to refund it to no avail , level scaling needs to be removed for me to even consider launching the game ever again and that will not happen as it would require to a tally develop the game , consider pacing, making areas where mobs are within certain ranges of levels , having proper loot tables... yeah too much time wasted on all that when you can just improve the in game cash shop.
Trying last epoch next , way cheaper too.
I agree. I've put like 5 or 6 in game days in and im lvl 91. I work a full time job as well. The stash is horrible. I only have 1 character bc I can't use the stash for my other ones. And one of my biggest things is I want to change my build up BUT it's so tedious and expensive and I don't have enough stash or organization to do it. Rn I'm a melee rogue. I want to try range out but then I have to kina switch up my gear and stuff barely have stash space to switch out. My character inventory is also 2 rows full at all times. It's horrible. I just got my first glif to 21. I think the thing is they never wanted ppl to make it this far so early on. Since this game is supposed to go on for years they wanted it to be slower and ppl to take their time and stuff but obviously tou have the ppl who play for a living make content and some who can put the time in that get this stuff done very fast. I agree about the uber rare uniques also. They should increase the drop rate BUT still be very rare. I still love the game but I NEED more stash and faster Lvling to really try all the characters out. For now I'm a rogue. The first season I'll go sorc or rogue again idk honestly. But im excited for what's to come but they need to fix this stuff.
The game came out 4 weeks ago…. Games should not be designed to do it so quick.
you dont need 90% of the shit you have in your stash
@@FranklinLive it is not, but for some reason, in the meantime people push themself to kidneys failure and complain "theres nothing to do" duh
@@FranklinLive they had 9 years to implement a bigger stash... matter of fact its been an issue since d2
Same feelings here, so sad to be labeled as hater each time you make a point. And the game is preciselly that a Beta for entire map, I have been saying it since day one myself.
Not even 1 good feature that all the other good games out there has its being found in this game, not even from D3...
Is a rushed project and guys like some "gaming journalist " and content creators feels the opposite and that we are to harsh, on a game that barely has any diversity and meaning. Well maybe in 5 seasons time when they decide to wake up (and hope not on gamers expense aka to charge for everything).
P. S. If they would have not fixed/introduced teleport I think we could have shurelly talked about a dead game already.
I just want The Paladin Back!
Or some Knightly Type in Shiny Plate Armor that can take a beating if he go tanking or something in between dps and tank...
I know we have the big wild man! But he is not a knight type!
I want 1 hand sword and shield or a 2 hand sword or 2 hand mace like the paladins in wow...
Sometime I wish the Loot rate and how stuff drops and gear way. And how to put your gear together and the builds and so on was closer to D2
The Game just closer to D2!
And ofc I wish we had like 5 personal stash tabs! Per character. And 10 shared stash tabs or something like that
And now we can only have 10 character 2 per class... Male and Female...
Would love to have like 4 per Class character. So we had like 20 slots or maybe 40 slots... And especially when we have seasons!
Bro you got the blood knight in diablo immortal 😂
Wait for D4 expansion. Paladin could be next class added!
I don’t see how yall made it to lvl 100 without giving up or making a new character. I’m lvl 77 struggling just to make it to 80. Just repetitive as hell and not getting shit for these high tier nightmare dungeons. Barely any paragon node points.
imagine playing 200+ hours before season 1 even starts
3:21 Most people are spamming low tier nightmare dungeons because they just want to power level, and maybe thats why there's only 6 people that have found a super unique. We don't know which would be the better route to take due to lack of data. I know for a fact, that im getting higher item power drops doing higher tier nightmare dungeons 70+
I have every glyph leveled and have pushed to T96 I haven’t noticed this….
@@royc6446 devs said super rare drops are tied to monster level, no one asked if you levelled every glyph or why you would be dumb enough to level glyphs you will never use.
@@345345345345345435 if I’m spamming nightmare dungeons I might as well put my xp into glyph if I have all the ones leveled for my build common sense should tell you that but I guess ur dumb.
@@345345345345345435 Ps no one asked for your reply and yet you replied are you dumb or a hypocrite?
Median xl for diablo 2 is an exellent mod thats been worked on for a decade
I think everyone feels the same way, except for the fanbois who think the game is perfect and can't be improved.
Go outside homie... get some sun, touch some grass, talk to other humans, breath some fresh OUTSIDE air... holy fuck...
Right after I beat Lillith and the campaign mode, I wasn't sure what to do next in the game. I went from Veteran all the way to Torment Tier 4 dungeon with HOTA Barbarian build at level 65 with complete item builds in 5 days. I tried PvP, Helltides and the Whisper Tree but it seemed pointless once you beat the story campaign. It just feels like Runescape when you maxed out level and getting all the items. You kinda ask yourself what am i doing and what is the point of this. I just uninstalled the game and went back to my fishing hobby and I feel like Diablo 4 was a great short game. Nothing beyond that. Id say play the campaign story and your done.
$100 indie game
Local internet disconnected my lvl 54 hardcore Druid late last night, logged on today to the character selection screen. enjoyed this video
If you really play D2 and you say the grind is harder in D4, you are delusional.
Agreed, they ask far too much to finally enjoy stuff