Ughhhhh I don’t like the ps3 triggers they’re always so uncomfortable Have you tried games like Sonic All Star Racing or Modnation Racers on PS3? It’s not pleasant ;-;
@@WednesdayMan not the case for any shooter games like cod, uncharted, gta and more. they knew people didnt like the dual shock 3 triggers, but still gave you the option to change bumpers and triggers on ps3 but not xbox.
what i love about the fact that mgs V is on ps3 is that because it exists, you can basicaly use ps3 as a metal gear solid machine because ps3 can play all metal gear games. oh and heres the note about the bumpers: yes some games on xbox also had shooting on bumpers and the thing is, that 90% of the time ps3 games had shooting on bumpers i kind of find it wierd that they switched it up on ps4 but on ps4 its the oposite shooting is on the trigger buttons
I did never get low framerate and resolution is very nice and feels comfy idk what is he talking about (Specially how his ps3 lowers framerate my diving)
1:12 It's actually the other way around. The Fox Engine was developed for PS3 after MGS4 back in 2008 and MGSV: Ground Zeroes was first shown exclusively at IGN on PS3 back in 2011.
I had the PS3 game on day one because my PS4 crapped out like a week before. Imagine walking into a game store and changing your pre order to a ps3 version...That was a moment. 😂
Originally, it was being developed for the old generation (360 and PS3). However, after the arrival of the new generation, and some changes and processes that were happening within Kojima Productions, it was also developed for the new generation.
Considering the country I live in, we were only able to move on from a modded PS2 to a PS3 late into the PS4's later lifecycle. Releases like these was a like a blessing to us. This also made me realize that PS3 is the most complete in terms of mainline MGS games plus Rising. You have the Legacy Collection (code for MGS1, HD Collection, and MGS4), Rising, MGSV:GZ and TPP, which is still unbeatable with Xbox One/Series coming close, thanks to the Master Collection Vol.1, only missing out MGS4.
The information is wrong. MGS5 was developed with the PS3 in mind, so the PS4 version is the port. From there, the analysis falls apart due to this bad prejudice. Obviously a game ported from PS3 to PS4 will work better.
MGS5 is literally one of the best (if not THE best) ports of a PS4 game on PS3, a lot of this stuff is very universal around all the games from that era just due to the limitations of the console, even games from around 2012-13 had big downgrades compared to the PC versions (like Far Cry 3). The fact that MGS5 is an open world game with so much in it and is still playable AND still looks pretty good all things consider, is legit kind of a miracle. Like look at Shadow of Mordor or Black Ops 3 on PS3, it's really impressive what they were able to do.
@@ELIZABETHMARLONE2005 that's likely true, due to how unique of a console it was, a lot of PS3 versions of games ended up running and/or looking way worse than the 360, apparently it was a real pain to develop for at times. The PS3 was capable of groundbreaking stuff at the time that *I believe* the 360 couldn't do but it was exclusive to games developed only for the PS3 like MGS4, The Last of Us, God of War 3 and Beyond: Two Souls.
@@ELIZABETHMARLONE2005not necessarily. This is due to the unique (and overly complicated) architecture of the ps3. And while yes can be emulated on PC. To have consistent fps and be able to play difficult games, requires very expensive pc. My £1000 can play most that I want, but not all still. And this didn’t even account for the game compatibility list (on rpcs3 website). While there’s a number of games playable, many still aren’t fully without glaring bugs, and many just not at all. So while the PS3 was theoretically the most advanced and powerful of the generation, because it was such a pain to develop for, most games ended up running better on 360 due to optimisation being easier. While the rains vary for why these systems failed in their respective gen, for the last 4 gens, the most powerful console so poorly. GameCube lost to the PS2 by a long shot. Initially ps3 lost to the Xbox before making a comeback in the end. And now, the Xbox series X, has sold a fraction of even the PS5 (switch sales are ridiculous).
4:30 PS3 used L1 and R1 for shooting. That's just how it was. L2 and R2 weren't very good for shooting at the time. L1 and R1 were also pressure sensitive for PS3. Honestly I hated switching to triggers once the PS4 came out.
Hot take but I actually still like that more than triggers even now. I've used my PS3 controller on me PC a few times and I still love that setup. A lot of games don't let you flip bumpers and triggers so it became a PITA lol
Little trick: Although the back of the box says the game only supports 720p and 1080i output, if you go to the ps3's image settings and disable the 720p option, leaving 1080p and 1080i activated, the console will actually upscale the game to 1080p, it's not much but looks a bit better than 720p. (This works in other games too, but not all of them. I tested it with nfs hot pursuit and it just outputs 480p).
You're a little wrong about it being a "PS4 game on PS3", it was a PC game optimized for a stable PS3, not an actual PS3, hence why it runs great on PS4. These things can also be mitigated playing in offline mode, so the servers may also have an effect on it.
one look at the controls and you realize that the game was very much designed for consoles first, all the loading screen tooltips show controller buttons
@@jgunner94 exactly this. when you're playing in the moment of an objectively worse version - it's obviously not as bad because it's what you're used to, but when you've experienced the better version, you realise how bad the lesser version is. is anyone saying it's unplayable? no, but the guy in video is just pointing out how shit it is compared to the PC/PS4 port lmao
One thing, if you played this before patch. If you picked up the model poster at the Afghanistan Central Base near where you rescue Huey while free roaming. The poster would not respawn, so you couldn't 100% the objectives. That was 50 hours before I had to delete everything and restart the game.
@@joestar6259 you can get 100% in single player and get MOST trophies done but there are some you can’t get are which are online related trophies like “Intruder” and I think the two nuke trophies but I might be wrong on those two. If you’re going to use the trophy unlocker plugin you can enable it in the cobra settings. You must load the game first and then use the shortcut buttons
mgsv and the fox engine is really the king of optimization, i can still run it with my intel hd 620 and 4gb ram but at low resolution with somewhat of a consistent fps but for me is pretty playable
My man I played MGS5 day one on PS3 and had a blast. I've seen and played worse looking and running games on PS3. Oh and 99% games on PS3 used L1 and R1 to aim and shoot.
it is a miracle a game like this works 60 FPS at ps4 and xbox one, even ps4 exclusives wont work 60 fps and most AAA games, this game is underrated as hell for its optimization
@@SPECREY I mean, it was made for a hardware that is weaker than the PS4, so the game running better on a hardware powerful than PS3 is expected, unlike ones that are made FOR the PS4.
@@spongebobfan78 i dont think that is the case many games camed to ps4 didnt had great graphics like mgs v did, if you ask to me this game was never supposed to be released to ps3
@@SPECREY I think the PS4 and Xbox One Werent even announced when Ground Zeroes was in 2011 ( And MGS V is rumored to have started development for PC and PS3, the PS4 version came after )
The transition from bumpers to triggers when the PS4 came out really messed with my skills in a LOT of games. L1 R1 were the default Aim and Shoot buttons on the PS3 for most games.
i tried i remember in 2016 i bought a ps3 for 50 bucks and bought all the exclusives i never played, including all the mgs games. after getting 4 for 99 cents at gamestop, pick this up for ps3 as well, and basically i couldn't stand the low to sub 20 fps every time i sprinted.
Honestly I've been having a blast playing MGSV in PS3 especially having almost all the Metal Gear Solid games on the PS3, i can do a MGS marathon without changing the console
My dude MGSV is a PS3 game. FOX engine cant render more than 12 NPCs at once. It doesnt matter if you are playing in on PS4 it is still a technical mess.
i played on xbox one and the game was very smooth imo, even when playing the online dispatch missions where you fight over 20 guys I never experienced lag or dropped fram rates, idk might be my good wifi though
fox engine can render more npcs at once thats just a plain lie. The problem is the fox engine has a hard cap of hard far it can render things, i believe its like 300 meters or somethings so things visibly just pop in and out of seemingly nowhere, including npcs. But the result of that hardcap was an extremely well optimized game that runs and almost any potato pc.
The audio issue might be because of lower settings for the spatialization, which uses raycasts (expensive). The ground particule issue can also be triggered on PC, there's this one particule that is used when diving, but also by quiet when dashing, but if quiet dashes and goes into water it tanks the fps because of the absurd amount of particules emitted from the ground and the water. Maybe an issue with rendering and particule transparency ? For the choppy animations, they probably reduced the amount of bones for all the characters, so they end up being less smooth and accurate. (fewer bones to animate per frame, better frame rate).
Are you joking? There are literally unplayable parts. You literally can’t get certain trophies. The graphical fidelity and the way it runs are just other downsides.
Meh, the 7th Gen (particularly the PS3) home consoles especially cross platform titles manages to be very inconsistent (both frame rate / pacing, resolution fidelity, and input lag?) than 6th Gen consoles. MGSV on 7th Gen though is the very least worst case example of this IMO. I'm aware SotC on the PS2 exists but at least the game didn't look like it was smeared in Vaseline like the majority of PS3 games.
@DarnTootn Most games that were released during the few years ran good because nobody thought anyone was going to play a game on a console with 48 updates, which one the way broke something
Basically me rn with 18 years old but with the same mentality, I really don’t gaf about frame rate/resolution. I’m determined to play all the metal gear solid games on ps3 and I’ll do it. Some days ago I finished Snake Eater and Peace Walker, and I’m now playing Ground Zeroes and it runs fine
I actually preferred L1 and R1 over triggers because it was much more practical to subdue enemies faster by mashing the button. It is indeed strange how there is no option to swap them on any version of the game, there's Steam custom inputs but that does not account for the change in driving controls, which the PS3 version uniquely swaps around the buttons for.
eh you exaggerating. Literally were i first played MGSV on, for 8000hrs between release and mid 2018, also you are completely wrong, like many games between console generations it is the opposite it's not a ps3 running on the ps4. It is a ps3 game running on ps4 Also for any ps3 players, did SOMEONE ever get the nuclear disarmament cutscenes? Because i did, i didn't made a FOB before i finished the story, when i dismantled my own nuke the cutscenes played and i got really confused i didn't get the statue shown. And just years laters when people "discovered" that cutscene in the game files that it was supposed to be a online event
The only sad part about this port is that since the servers are down, all of the online weapons, GMP farming, new bases, FOB, deployments, MGO, S+ crew members... Are completely lost.
I bought the game for ps3 last year and i wanted to get platinum. When I realised i couldn't i tried to jailbreak and obtain it through homebrewing. I bricked my ps3 and now I can't access my savefile with 90 hours of progress. 😮💨
one thing I heard years ago (possibly via George Salonikh I dunno I can't find it anymore) is that because it also had to run on the ps3 you can never really have more than twelve or so enemies on screen. as in he piled all npcs up in one big heap and some would dissapear so when he threw a grenade killing all that were visible once he looked away the bodies were gone but a few remaining stunned enemies took their place.
2:20 Sounds like they disabled interpolations. You want to see the best examples of this, the original Quake doesn't have interpolation so it just has animations that are basically snapping to each frame. It's especially noticeable in the N64 version of Quake II.
i remember having a potato pc at this time i was obsessed with this game but my toaster couldnt run anything modern! One of my friends upgraded to ps4 and he gave me his ps3 for free, before i even plugged the ps3 in i went and bought the game without any hesitation! i managed to finished the game at 100% and i didnt noticed any important issues. I still have this setup and also my saved game! i have never played it in modern hardware ill install it and see the differences side by side.
sub 30 framerates are standard for pretty much every 360/ps3 game. all in all its a relatively impressive effort that they brought this game onto 360/ps3 fully without cuts. the jumps between generations truly are small those days.
i first played MGSV on ps3 and it was really good, i dont remember experiencing the mayority of the problems you had. Also, disabling the camera shake aliviates some of the frame drops
something funny that happened to me with the ps3 version is that it would crash every single time i used that useless FOM grenade or whatever its called the game would crash. and little me was always so curious what the grenade actually did only to figure out its only useful in fobs
Legend says Kojima didn't want MGSV in the PS3 because it meant to reduce some elements. For instance, OKB Zero originally had a larger hangar area inside, and most of the extremely long Skullface monologue was meant to take place there, showing the human experimentation on vocal parasites and skull units in a body horror fashion, and then Venom Snake was lead by gun point to the jeep. Sorta like the Devil's House but even darker...
I mean, i really enjoy this game at that time, just getting home from school, turning on your ps3, some drink and it was the best part of my day by far, glad that i grow up with this. Happy days to you my friends :) enjoy the small moments of life (srry for my bad english)
I platinumed this game on PS3 in November 2015, the very last game I played in my PS3. I swear I didn't have any of these peoblems, as my farewell to PS3 was a very sweet experience. The game was beautiful and everything I could have asked for.
As someone who grew up with the PS3, and this version of the game, it really does impress me how they managed to get it running as smoothly as it does. As for the aiming, all the games i know on PS3 use L1 for aiming. I heard that is because of the way the controller is designed making L2 more fragile so they do it to not overuse it. This is also the case for PS2 games. Once i switched to the PC version i despised aiming with R2 so i had to remap it. Feels right at home since i play with a PS3 controller
I'm surprised the PS3 experience was that bad for you. When I played the game for the first time I did so on the 360, and while it sure wasn't 1080p 60 it consistent enough to be an enjoyable experience for me.
literally complaining about an 8 year old game on an ageing system, and crying about the frame rate and resolution when it was waaaaay better than most games at that time. lol
He's crazy, talking about framerate on the ps3 is played out, everybody knows the framerate was cr4p, but it was still playable. Now that people wanna play games 60fps+ the game seems " unplayable", but to me is bs
@@cashout893first of all, what are you, 6? Who censors the word "crap"? Second, 7th Gen was a regression in framerate. There were plenty of 6th Gen games that ran at 60fps. 60 should be the gold standard of games since the 5th Gen, yet we still have sub 60 games currently in the 9th Gen. So don't sit here and pretend like people are being pretentious for complaining about a game literally running at 20fps or lower during heavy scenes and literally just cutscenes, because it IS awful, and should have never been standard. Even the dang PS1 and N64 had a ton of 60fps games. Cmon bro.
Weird that my Radeon graphics card laptop from back in the day could run this game at 60fps perfectly without even overheating. How is it that the ps3 can't handle it?
I actually played this version way before i was able to get my hands on a PS4, and admittedly it was a little rough, but it did the job That being said tho, i don't think I'll ever go back to the PS3 version
I played MGSV on ps3 since launch day. No issues at all and fully enjoyed the game. Sure the graphics were not the best but I honestly had no issues with the game in terms of performance.
This man could have made a video where he spazzes out and starts speaking nonsensically in different tongues, and he'd have made better points in that video than he does in this one, lmao.
I remember playing MGSTPP on PS3 first and then the PS4 version a year later, I remember honestly being decent and don't remember these issues. I could be misremembering however.
If you actually think about shooting on controllers, you would understand bumpers are the better option, because they let you spam them much quicker, due to their much shallower press depth. This is a dealbreaker in most fps games when using semi automatic weapons. The only reason PS4 and onwards switched the defaults to the triggers, is to show off with useless effects like in Destiny, where using a revolver would show the character actually slowly pulling the trigger - how amazing and truly game changing. Thus, everybody got brainwashed into using the triggers for everything. The only exception I can understand is with things like bows in Horizon, where the draw of the bowstring fits triggers perfectly, sure.
I saw a random soldier running backwards up a cliff while asleep on ps3. Then got stuck in the cell with Quiet after the shower. 360 never loaded the sniper skulls or puppet soldiers in code talker.
the reason why so many ps3 games used the bumpers instead of the triggers is because the shape of the triggers make them really slippery
except for gta 5
@@Christianhadipratamayou have the option to switch them in both gta 4 and v
Ughhhhh I don’t like the ps3 triggers they’re always so uncomfortable
Have you tried games like Sonic All Star Racing or Modnation Racers on PS3? It’s not pleasant ;-;
I don't think that's the reason at all.
I'm saying this because many PS2 games did the same thing, it was probably just consistency.
@@WednesdayMan not the case for any shooter games like cod, uncharted, gta and more. they knew people didnt like the dual shock 3 triggers, but still gave you the option to change bumpers and triggers on ps3 but not xbox.
what i love about the fact that mgs V is on ps3 is that because it exists, you can basicaly use ps3 as a metal gear solid machine because ps3 can play all metal gear games.
oh and heres the note about the bumpers: yes some games on xbox also had shooting on bumpers and the thing is, that 90% of the time ps3 games had shooting on bumpers i kind of find it wierd that they switched it up on ps4 but on ps4 its the oposite shooting is on the trigger buttons
Technically, you can't play portable ops, but yeah, pretty much every mainline metal gear is available on the console
@@federicoricca2512I mean if you mod the console you can technically play some PSP games, I didn't try portable ops though
this is one of the reasons I love the ps3
@@vale_ender9048 but at that point it's easier to just play ppsspp
@@federicoricca2512 Probably, but I would still try just to see if it's possible, so we can truly say the PS3 is an mgs machine
you can play the entire metal gear series on ps3, that's impressive
360 still the better console
@@ELIZABETHMARLONE2005 literally no one cares elizabeth, ps3 is a better console especially when jailed broken
@@BassLessNo that's just not true and if you have to illegally mod a console for it to be "good" then it's not good to begin with
@@ELIZABETHMARLONE2005Both consoles are good jesus quit your whining
@@superdrinkingpepsi the Chad response
Bro it's like someone beat the shit out of your PS3, I never experienced the problems.
honestly
Same
Same
I did never get low framerate and resolution is very nice and feels comfy idk what is he talking about
(Specially how his ps3 lowers framerate my diving)
Fr tho, I got my Ps3 slim from my sisters friend who gave it to me as a gift with the game and runs pretty good imo
I platinumed it on PS3, I platinumed it on PS4...
Play the PS3 version. Become the real Big Boss.
Did you even watch the video 💀
thats what i intend to do
@@ndnixlon9548 He probably Platinumed it before the servers shut down.
1:12 It's actually the other way around. The Fox Engine was developed for PS3 after MGS4 back in 2008 and MGSV: Ground Zeroes was first shown exclusively at IGN on PS3 back in 2011.
This game and GTAV really pushed the limit of 7th gen to the maximum.
Honestly all PS3 games were pretty much was about this quality. 30fps or lower.
And 360. I am playing 360 games now, and thank god we aren't in those times anymore.
😂@@WllKiedSnake
Even the PS4 had stuff like this. Bloodborne is still locked to 30fps and never got a 60fps patch for ps5.
@@WllKiedSnakePS3 was worse
@@jackainthere Not always.
I had the PS3 game on day one because my PS4 crapped out like a week before. Imagine walking into a game store and changing your pre order to a ps3 version...That was a moment. 😂
LOL
The first version that i beat of MGS V was in ps3.
You have the all trophy’s before servers shut down?
@@TwinkieRyu38 no... I don't like to get all the trophies in any game.
@@TwinkieRyu38 the "beat" here is because i played the game til the end
@@UGS2702 oh I see just simply start to finish sorry
Me too and after beating mgsv on ps3 I tried mgs3 snake eater and It automatically became one of my favorite games ever
Originally, it was being developed for the old generation (360 and PS3). However, after the arrival of the new generation, and some changes and processes that were happening within Kojima Productions, it was also developed for the new generation.
Like opening a studio in US
Kojima: "Fuck it we ball."
Yes, I Remember watching old E3 videos and in 2011 Kojima already had showcased the Fox Engine, 2 years before Xbox One and PS4
Considering the country I live in, we were only able to move on from a modded PS2 to a PS3 late into the PS4's later lifecycle. Releases like these was a like a blessing to us. This also made me realize that PS3 is the most complete in terms of mainline MGS games plus Rising. You have the Legacy Collection (code for MGS1, HD Collection, and MGS4), Rising, MGSV:GZ and TPP, which is still unbeatable with Xbox One/Series coming close, thanks to the Master Collection Vol.1, only missing out MGS4.
Uganda sucks bro, sorry for you
Hope you're good now and you have everything you need for yourself and for your family.
Hey man I'm with you , I'm from Venezuela, I can only buy a PS3
The information is wrong. MGS5 was developed with the PS3 in mind, so the PS4 version is the port. From there, the analysis falls apart due to this bad prejudice. Obviously a game ported from PS3 to PS4 will work better.
bro's living in a different universe.
for real exactly.
MGS5 is literally one of the best (if not THE best) ports of a PS4 game on PS3, a lot of this stuff is very universal around all the games from that era just due to the limitations of the console, even games from around 2012-13 had big downgrades compared to the PC versions (like Far Cry 3). The fact that MGS5 is an open world game with so much in it and is still playable AND still looks pretty good all things consider, is legit kind of a miracle. Like look at Shadow of Mordor or Black Ops 3 on PS3, it's really impressive what they were able to do.
Couldn't agree more.
All the games you mentioned except shadow of mordoor I think looked better and ran better on the 360
@@ELIZABETHMARLONE2005 that's likely true, due to how unique of a console it was, a lot of PS3 versions of games ended up running and/or looking way worse than the 360, apparently it was a real pain to develop for at times. The PS3 was capable of groundbreaking stuff at the time that *I believe* the 360 couldn't do but it was exclusive to games developed only for the PS3 like MGS4, The Last of Us, God of War 3 and Beyond: Two Souls.
@@thenaut2111 I'm sure the 360 could run those games hell PC can emulate them
@@ELIZABETHMARLONE2005not necessarily. This is due to the unique (and overly complicated) architecture of the ps3. And while yes can be emulated on PC. To have consistent fps and be able to play difficult games, requires very expensive pc. My £1000 can play most that I want, but not all still. And this didn’t even account for the game compatibility list (on rpcs3 website). While there’s a number of games playable, many still aren’t fully without glaring bugs, and many just not at all.
So while the PS3 was theoretically the most advanced and powerful of the generation, because it was such a pain to develop for, most games ended up running better on 360 due to optimisation being easier.
While the rains vary for why these systems failed in their respective gen, for the last 4 gens, the most powerful console so poorly. GameCube lost to the PS2 by a long shot. Initially ps3 lost to the Xbox before making a comeback in the end. And now, the Xbox series X, has sold a fraction of even the PS5 (switch sales are ridiculous).
4:30 PS3 used L1 and R1 for shooting. That's just how it was. L2 and R2 weren't very good for shooting at the time. L1 and R1 were also pressure sensitive for PS3. Honestly I hated switching to triggers once the PS4 came out.
So true
Same. It took me a long while to get used to changing from usual L1 and R1 to L2 and R2, especially when it came to shooting games.
Hot take but I actually still like that more than triggers even now. I've used my PS3 controller on me PC a few times and I still love that setup. A lot of games don't let you flip bumpers and triggers so it became a PITA lol
Bro bought a 2nd hand Honda and expected it to run like a Bugatti
Little trick: Although the back of the box says the game only supports 720p and 1080i output, if you go to the ps3's image settings and disable the 720p option, leaving 1080p and 1080i activated, the console will actually upscale the game to 1080p, it's not much but looks a bit better than 720p.
(This works in other games too, but not all of them. I tested it with nfs hot pursuit and it just outputs 480p).
@@defalt_2797 does upscaling affect any performance
You're a little wrong about it being a "PS4 game on PS3", it was a PC game optimized for a stable PS3, not an actual PS3, hence why it runs great on PS4. These things can also be mitigated playing in offline mode, so the servers may also have an effect on it.
one look at the controls and you realize that the game was very much designed for consoles first, all the loading screen tooltips show controller buttons
The worst part is the idroid loading, defietly is a reality check
First played mgs5 on ps3 bruh its fine
Cause that’s all you tasted. If you played the next gen versions or the PC you probably couldn’t go back to last gen.
@@jgunner94 exactly this. when you're playing in the moment of an objectively worse version - it's obviously not as bad because it's what you're used to, but when you've experienced the better version, you realise how bad the lesser version is.
is anyone saying it's unplayable? no, but the guy in video is just pointing out how shit it is compared to the PC/PS4 port lmao
also maybe you just played it when you were younger and didnt even realize all of its problems.
One thing, if you played this before patch. If you picked up the model poster at the Afghanistan Central Base near where you rescue Huey while free roaming. The poster would not respawn, so you couldn't 100% the objectives. That was 50 hours before I had to delete everything and restart the game.
Posters were always a little buggy, even on ps4 sometimes posters take ages to respawn
There must be something wrong with ur PS3 I tried out my Jailbreaked PS3 and it worked perfectly fine
Same
It’s because he unlocked the trophies using the trophies list on the xmb instead of unlocking it in the game with the trophy unlocker
You must be getting a locked 60 fps on your copy.
@@GioElMero can you please explain more because I'm going for the 100% on PS3 and is this even a safe option?
@@joestar6259 you can get 100% in single player and get MOST trophies done but there are some you can’t get are which are online related trophies like “Intruder” and I think the two nuke trophies but I might be wrong on those two. If you’re going to use the trophy unlocker plugin you can enable it in the cobra settings. You must load the game first and then use the shortcut buttons
mgsv and the fox engine is really the king of optimization, i can still run it with my intel hd 620 and 4gb ram but at low resolution with somewhat of a consistent fps but for me is pretty playable
fucking hell that big bang theory bit almost killed me from laughter
My man I played MGS5 day one on PS3 and had a blast. I've seen and played worse looking and running games on PS3. Oh and 99% games on PS3 used L1 and R1 to aim and shoot.
It's a game made for the PS3 and Xbox360 in mind, but it took so long that they released with the "remastered" PS4 and Xbox One versions.
it is a miracle a game like this works 60 FPS at ps4 and xbox one, even ps4 exclusives wont work 60 fps and most AAA games, this game is underrated as hell for its optimization
@@SPECREY I mean, it was made for a hardware that is weaker than the PS4, so the game running better on a hardware powerful than PS3 is expected, unlike ones that are made FOR the PS4.
@@spongebobfan78 i dont think that is the case many games camed to ps4 didnt had great graphics like mgs v did, if you ask to me this game was never supposed to be released to ps3
@@SPECREY not much of a miracle, the graphics were good but not that good at the time
@@SPECREY I think the PS4 and Xbox One Werent even announced when Ground Zeroes was in 2011 ( And MGS V is rumored to have started development for PC and PS3, the PS4 version came after )
The transition from bumpers to triggers when the PS4 came out really messed with my skills in a LOT of games. L1 R1 were the default Aim and Shoot buttons on the PS3 for most games.
i tried i remember in 2016 i bought a ps3 for 50 bucks and bought all the exclusives i never played, including all the mgs games. after getting 4 for 99 cents at gamestop, pick this up for ps3 as well, and basically i couldn't stand the low to sub 20 fps every time i sprinted.
Did you get the ps3 slim or the fat?
Honestly I've been having a blast playing MGSV in PS3 especially having almost all the Metal Gear Solid games on the PS3, i can do a MGS marathon without changing the console
My dude MGSV is a PS3 game. FOX engine cant render more than 12 NPCs at once. It doesnt matter if you are playing in on PS4 it is still a technical mess.
i played on xbox one and the game was very smooth imo, even when playing the online dispatch missions where you fight over 20 guys I never experienced lag or dropped fram rates, idk might be my good wifi though
fox engine can render more npcs at once thats just a plain lie. The problem is the fox engine has a hard cap of hard far it can render things, i believe its like 300 meters or somethings so things visibly just pop in and out of seemingly nowhere, including npcs. But the result of that hardcap was an extremely well optimized game that runs and almost any potato pc.
this guy must be playing being wrong simulator
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I love blatant missinformation
The audio issue might be because of lower settings for the spatialization, which uses raycasts (expensive).
The ground particule issue can also be triggered on PC, there's this one particule that is used when diving, but also by quiet when dashing, but if quiet dashes and goes into water it tanks the fps because of the absurd amount of particules emitted from the ground and the water. Maybe an issue with rendering and particule transparency ?
For the choppy animations, they probably reduced the amount of bones for all the characters, so they end up being less smooth and accurate. (fewer bones to animate per frame, better frame rate).
Someone grew up playing PS4 and modern PC games only lmao
Are you joking? There are literally unplayable parts. You literally can’t get certain trophies. The graphical fidelity and the way it runs are just other downsides.
@@BigSwagger1 ''Unplayable'' because of a poster
@BigSwagger1 don't embarrass yourself, you sound like a stupid kid.
Meh, the 7th Gen (particularly the PS3) home consoles especially cross platform titles manages to be very inconsistent (both frame rate / pacing, resolution fidelity, and input lag?) than 6th Gen consoles.
MGSV on 7th Gen though is the very least worst case example of this IMO. I'm aware SotC on the PS2 exists but at least the game didn't look like it was smeared in Vaseline like the majority of PS3 games.
@@VitrikAgno it’s unplayable because you literally can’t get certain achievements 💀
You are completely exaggerating, I played the whole game on ps3 and it was very good! No major issues with the framerate.
My man....
I appreciate your love for the game and the PlayStation 3 very much but look at Digital Foundry's analysis
My brother in Christ, the proof is in the video tf are you yappin about lmao
big cap
@DarnTootn Most games that were released during the few years ran good because nobody thought anyone was going to play a game on a console with 48 updates, which one the way broke something
I mean I'm watching the footage and it looks fine
OUR WHOLE UNIVERSE WAS IN A HOT DENSE STATE..
WHEN NEARLY 14 MILLION YEARS AGO, EXPANSION STARTED- WAIT
This video is super well put together, I honestly was surprised to see you’ve only got around 800 subscribers. Keep up the good work, great content!
8:06 He was not going to extract him.
i remember when i was a happy person at 15 and didn't give a single thought to framerate and resolution. simpler times.
Basically me rn with 18 years old but with the same mentality, I really don’t gaf about frame rate/resolution. I’m determined to play all the metal gear solid games on ps3 and I’ll do it. Some days ago I finished Snake Eater and Peace Walker, and I’m now playing Ground Zeroes and it runs fine
I actually preferred L1 and R1 over triggers because it was much more practical to subdue enemies faster by mashing the button.
It is indeed strange how there is no option to swap them on any version of the game, there's Steam custom inputs but that does not account for the change in driving controls, which the PS3 version uniquely swaps around the buttons for.
eh you exaggerating. Literally were i first played MGSV on, for 8000hrs between release and mid 2018, also you are completely wrong, like many games between console generations it is the opposite it's not a ps3 running on the ps4. It is a ps3 game running on ps4
Also for any ps3 players, did SOMEONE ever get the nuclear disarmament cutscenes? Because i did, i didn't made a FOB before i finished the story, when i dismantled my own nuke the cutscenes played and i got really confused i didn't get the statue shown. And just years laters when people "discovered" that cutscene in the game files that it was supposed to be a online event
It played one day randomly on PC, but Konami said it was a bug.
I got the cutscene but the nuke count was already messed on PS3 for quite some time.
Played it for weeks on my PS3 so I had no issue with the graphics or frame rate. I had fun playing MGSV.
Very nice! Good job on the edit. Video was very entertaining, thanks 🎉
The only sad part about this port is that since the servers are down, all of the online weapons, GMP farming, new bases, FOB, deployments, MGO, S+ crew members... Are completely lost.
I bought the game for ps3 last year and i wanted to get platinum. When I realised i couldn't i tried to jailbreak and obtain it through homebrewing. I bricked my ps3 and now I can't access my savefile with 90 hours of progress. 😮💨
one thing I heard years ago (possibly via George Salonikh I dunno I can't find it anymore) is that because it also had to run on the ps3 you can never really have more than twelve or so enemies on screen.
as in he piled all npcs up in one big heap and some would dissapear so when he threw a grenade killing all that were visible once he looked away the bodies were gone but a few remaining stunned enemies took their place.
Too late, I already played it on PS3 for +300 hours. Got the platinum tho, first on PS3 and a couple years ago on PS4.
Shadow of Mordor on PS3: Hold my loading screens.
You probably have a shitty tv or over exaggerating, this game looks very good on my ps3, and I am comparing it to pc, not even ps4.
I beat it on 360 not too long and it runs fine.
I'm considering building a Gaming PC this summer, would try the game there with mods.
The audio thing can be fixed if you change the output and choose auto it will be fixed
2:20 Sounds like they disabled interpolations. You want to see the best examples of this, the original Quake doesn't have interpolation so it just has animations that are basically snapping to each frame. It's especially noticeable in the N64 version of Quake II.
i remember having a potato pc at this time i was obsessed with this game but my toaster couldnt run anything modern! One of my friends upgraded to ps4 and he gave me his ps3 for free, before i even plugged the ps3 in i went and bought the game without any hesitation! i managed to finished the game at 100% and i didnt noticed any important issues. I still have this setup and also my saved game! i have never played it in modern hardware ill install it and see the differences side by side.
sub 30 framerates are standard for pretty much every 360/ps3 game. all in all its a relatively impressive effort that they brought this game onto 360/ps3 fully without cuts. the jumps between generations truly are small those days.
i first played MGSV on ps3 and it was really good, i dont remember experiencing the mayority of the problems you had. Also, disabling the camera shake aliviates some of the frame drops
One of the few games I was genuinely afraid of playing because I thought it'd kill the console
You use the triggers on the xbox360 version, i am now replaying it on pc with a thunderobot controller and its almost nostalgic
dude I played it on ps3 and xbox box 360 and it works very well for me, maybe it's your ps3 because I never had any problems
The fact that this game ran on ps3 at all is a miracle. It’s probably the best looking PS3 game.
I bought this game on ps4 and ps3, and fully beat both versions.
something funny that happened to me with the ps3 version is that it would crash every single time i used that useless FOM grenade or whatever its called the game would crash. and little me was always so curious what the grenade actually did only to figure out its only useful in fobs
The ps3 version is actually amazing not sure what your talking about
kaz: please boss don't sing that song again we're sick of it
venom: our whole universe was in a hot dense sta-
i finished on ps3 , and its carzy that it could run.
Legend says Kojima didn't want MGSV in the PS3 because it meant to reduce some elements. For instance, OKB Zero originally had a larger hangar area inside, and most of the extremely long Skullface monologue was meant to take place there, showing the human experimentation on vocal parasites and skull units in a body horror fashion, and then Venom Snake was lead by gun point to the jeep. Sorta like the Devil's House but even darker...
I mean, i really enjoy this game at that time, just getting home from school, turning on your ps3, some drink and it was the best part of my day by far, glad that i grow up with this. Happy days to you my friends :) enjoy the small moments of life (srry for my bad english)
so true, the rule of thumb in gaming is you never play the ps3 or 2 version if you have a choice.
I platinumed this game on PS3 in November 2015, the very last game I played in my PS3. I swear I didn't have any of these peoblems, as my farewell to PS3 was a very sweet experience. The game was beautiful and everything I could have asked for.
As someone who grew up with the PS3, and this version of the game, it really does impress me how they managed to get it running as smoothly as it does.
As for the aiming, all the games i know on PS3 use L1 for aiming. I heard that is because of the way the controller is designed making L2 more fragile so they do it to not overuse it. This is also the case for PS2 games. Once i switched to the PC version i despised aiming with R2 so i had to remap it. Feels right at home since i play with a PS3 controller
I'm surprised the PS3 experience was that bad for you. When I played the game for the first time I did so on the 360, and while it sure wasn't 1080p 60 it consistent enough to be an enjoyable experience for me.
360 had better framerate than PS3
PS3 only good running it's Exclusive game
Third party game like MGSV runs horrible
To answer your question. No the 360 did not use the bumpers, it used the triggers
6 years late....
Some people look at a small reasonable downgrade or anything below 60 fps and start yapping like they got a surprise Polystation
Bro I had no idea they made it for the ps3 what the actual fu**
PS3 games used the shoulder buttons a lot because of how bad the dualshock 3 triggers were
Mgsv on ps3 is absolutely fine to play, even better if you jailbreak your console and ramp up the fan speed, the game runs silky smooth
bro someone must've burned your ps3 because I never had these Issues What type of PS3 do you have?
literally complaining about an 8 year old game on an ageing system, and crying about the frame rate and resolution when it was waaaaay better than most games at that time. lol
He's crazy, talking about framerate on the ps3 is played out, everybody knows the framerate was cr4p, but it was still playable. Now that people wanna play games 60fps+ the game seems " unplayable", but to me is bs
@@cashout893fax bro😂😂most games nowadays on consoles are STILL not 60+fps💀
@@cashout893first of all, what are you, 6? Who censors the word "crap"?
Second, 7th Gen was a regression in framerate. There were plenty of 6th Gen games that ran at 60fps. 60 should be the gold standard of games since the 5th Gen, yet we still have sub 60 games currently in the 9th Gen.
So don't sit here and pretend like people are being pretentious for complaining about a game literally running at 20fps or lower during heavy scenes and literally just cutscenes, because it IS awful, and should have never been standard. Even the dang PS1 and N64 had a ton of 60fps games. Cmon bro.
@Dorraj the same guy who complains his games don't run at 120fps
@@cashout893are you ok? Wtf are you talking about? How does that have anything to do with what I said?
Finished the game on ps3
Play the ps3 version. Become the real big boss
A ps3 that is overclocked and using a very fast internal SSD, makes a hell of a difference in a lot of games including this game.
Could this answer why my ps1 games are so slow in it?
thank god it came out on ps3 because i was broke and didn’t have a ps4
Weird that my Radeon graphics card laptop from back in the day could run this game at 60fps perfectly without even overheating. How is it that the ps3 can't handle it?
I actually first played this game on the 360. Straight up. Iron sights were impossible to use
I actually played this version way before i was able to get my hands on a PS4, and admittedly it was a little rough, but it did the job
That being said tho, i don't think I'll ever go back to the PS3 version
"hideo game"
~ hideo "game" kojima, inventor of the hideo game
Yeah no offense but this is nonsense i played mgsv yesterday on my 11 year old ps3 and it still works like a charm
Dont hate on my Brother he only has 256MB of Ram you cant expect 4k on 120fps
my first mgsv experience was on the ps3 and i remember being blown away by the graphics
I played MGSV on ps3 since launch day. No issues at all and fully enjoyed the game. Sure the graphics were not the best but I honestly had no issues with the game in terms of performance.
This game is pretty old at this point. I don't think many people use their PS3 for more than a Bluray player anymore lol
This man could have made a video where he spazzes out and starts speaking nonsensically in different tongues, and he'd have made better points in that video than he does in this one, lmao.
I remember playing MGSTPP on PS3 first and then the PS4 version a year later, I remember honestly being decent and don't remember these issues. I could be misremembering however.
Is the big bang theory song actually in the game?😭
I play this game on PS3 and I absolutely enjoyed it
I remember completing this game on my ps3 I never had a problem, literally it's the same as on the ps4
What? It was good version, what are you talking about?
If you actually think about shooting on controllers, you would understand bumpers are the better option, because they let you spam them much quicker, due to their much shallower press depth. This is a dealbreaker in most fps games when using semi automatic weapons. The only reason PS4 and onwards switched the defaults to the triggers, is to show off with useless effects like in Destiny, where using a revolver would show the character actually slowly pulling the trigger - how amazing and truly game changing. Thus, everybody got brainwashed into using the triggers for everything. The only exception I can understand is with things like bows in Horizon, where the draw of the bowstring fits triggers perfectly, sure.
1:03
"why are you playing as a black african"
"uh nvm"
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Mgsv on ps3 it's like when you play metal gear peace walker on mobile emulator
I beat the game on ps3 whhen the game came out, no problems is a great port
I saw a random soldier running backwards up a cliff while asleep on ps3. Then got stuck in the cell with Quiet after the shower. 360 never loaded the sniper skulls or puppet soldiers in code talker.