Hey j perm, maybe you can try to take out the long corner magnets and put them into the 11 m pro so there won’t be a catching problem. I don’t have the Gan 12 so I can’t try this but maybe you can? Have a great day and I enjoyed this video like always. Thanks
Gan Pricing be like: Pakaging:15$ Adjustable Magnets:5$ Magnets(Corner-Edge):5$ Extra looooooong magnets:15$ Super-duper advanced adjusting system:10$ The actual cube:20$ *Something's missing* Oh wait,almost forgot- "Hope you can read chinese" Manual:7$ --------------------------- Total:78$
Dylan: went straight to English version of manual Me: oh no, no "I hope you can read chinese" this time! Dylan: flips the manual "I hope you can read chinese" Me: oof, that was close
So I got my gan 12 m maglev in, I’m noticing the lockup’s as well but no where near to the same extent. I’ve figured out it’s actually seems like the torpedo on the edge catching the corner. I use a looser setting which maybe why the catching is not as bad. Just a thought ( also yes it is not the magnets just from what I can see it see that when layers are flexing in the right way the edge of the torpedos will catch the corner pieces. I will re edit if I find a way to fix it)
I had $70 in my hand so I chose the maglev because I am used to strong magnets on my 356i. The only downside, however, is that for the past 3 months I used the Air sm. AHHHHHHH!!!! After 10 minutes of this video, I made my choice. I'm goin with the maglev
I have the gan 12 maglev and I really like it. I don't have as much as a problem with lockups but when it is on its highest magnet setting I get that you have to you use more energy so I put it on the weakest setting. I have been using it as my main for quite a while now and my average is 7.34. Thanks for the great content. ❤️
i think the problem to that weird lockup in the 12 maglev is when you take a close look in when you misalign the edges, you can see the edge feet got stuck on the other edge. You can see it more clearly when you loosen the cube. That's just my thought tho
It's my birthday today so just got my GAN 12 Maglev, not had a chance to play around with it much yet, but I love it so far, I'm a 50 second average guy that uses the GAN 11 as my main.
j perm, i would reccomend you to try GTN setting 6 and tension at 5, this gives the cube a very stable yet great at corner cutting, and relatively fast cube, adding up with the uv coating, i have gotten my best times with this cube, hope this advice will help.
@@alphabeta4682 I am most certainly not. I’ve only been cubing for 18 months so I’m not very good but I can tell a great cube. I loved my GAN 11 M pro but the 12 is just that much better. It turns effortlessly and it is so fast.
Can you make a comparison between 12 leap and 11m pro. Many people said both are not that different and worth getting the 11mpro Also, Dylan never failed to persuades us to learn chinese
I also have the maglev version. I have found that I really like it. I don't have the catching issue but I would say I'm not as fast as yourself and maybe that is the difference. It is very loud
J perm, hi. I saw your video and I understood why it double snaps! It's because when you corner cut, you are pulling the other side of that layer. After the cut, the back side joins and makes he second snap. I hope you have a good day. Bye!
I am actually using a GAN 12 Maglev (I purchased before any review and decided maglev over leap because maglev was more expensive and assumed it must have been better) and I upgrade from a GAN xs. I am using nearly the same setting as your recoomendation (3-3 vs your 3-2). I enjoyed this new turning style very much. GAN xs felt like a good quality speed cube but similar to any other speed cube. Maglev is on another level. Maglev felt smooth and super light and fast but at the same time very stable. I am having way fewer mistakes and less issues on allignment. After getting used to the new maglev, i had to turn the setting on my gan xs way down since it felt too stiff and required too much force for each turn. And practising on maglev is much easier on my wrist and arm overall. Using XS now felt like using old rubix. I do agree on your issue that the force required to turn maglev is not linear. But i think it just takes getting used to. I did have a lot of overshoot or overturning at the beginning. I average 25-30 seconds roughly so my usage may differ.
Also coming from the xs, I felt the exact same way with 3-3 settings and triangle corner mag settings on strongest. I've done just under 3000 solves in the month I've had the 12 maglev and it has pushed me over the sub 14 ao100 barrier and my first sub-8 of 7.66. I just love how forgiving it feels when spamming tps even with my god awful inaccurate turning.
@@nadia02 Same, bought it three weeks ago and haven't received it yet, and the only thin I heard from TH-camrs is that it sucks. Then i hear it from people who basically only use one cube and hence genuinely switched to the 12 maglev, and they often like it. I was getting quite scared i just burned 80 bucks on a plastic toy lmao
Hey j perm, wishing you a very happy (late) Diwali! As a part of remainder, I started cubing as a 'gift' during Diwali from my relatives and somewhat learned to solve it with the help of your tutorial ;) *SO THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING YOU HAVE DONE IN MY LIFE, CUBING HAS REALLY INFLUENCED ME INDEED*
@@JPerm thanks for replying :) yes ofcourse it is! As diwali is considered as a festival of lights, starting or making some resolutions is very auspicious :)
Hey j perm thank you so much for all of the help without your tutorials I would not have gone from a a PB of 30 seconds to 10 seconds thank you so much bro I love u
A challenge or Video suggestion --> Scramble a 3x3 and then solve all the corners like a 2x2 and then solve all the edges using only M , U , S , E , D moves 👍🏼
@@oliverlund2519 yea thats why i gave this video to j perm , i tried to do this but was not able to do the middle layers but if we do any other moves like R or L or B or F then the solved corners will break when the D and U layer corners are not alligned so he can do that first align the D and U corners then do any other moves so the corners dont break
My GAN12 is still stock, it came very dry. Mine doesn't spring back like yours when turning, it only springs forward into place with momentum it will jump forward. It feels like less magnet force or the same as My 356 X, which is on the clear magnets. The plastic is a bit thin, to the point the walls are squishy, I'm starting to get used to the lightness though. I don't get the catches like you do but I think I've encountered hints they're there but haven't narrowed them down. Might be worse in some settings. It reminds me of the catches that are much worse on the GAN smart cubes, they were getting better on the newer ones. I wonder if it's the holes in the insides of the corner pieces used for charging on the smart cubes as there are similar holes on this one. Definitely not as smooth and quiet as my 356 X, but I haven't set it up yet. I do prefer it to the 11 M pro which I never got use to, but now I'm starting to like the 11 M as well now.
Interesting that you say the 12 M isn't as smooth as the 356 X. I have both as well and thought my 12 M (Maglev) was smoother but now that I think about it you may be right! I love my 356 X which was a huge upgrade to my Gans 356 Air. I feel like the 12 M Maglev is another huge upgrade -- at least for me. Initially I didn't like how "airy" and light the Maglev felt but I'm quickly warming up to it and even like it more then my 356X now. I just set a new PB of 1:06 with it. I tried the 356 X and set a PB of 1:05. I then tried the Maglev and set a PB of 1:02 so who knows if it really is an upgrade. :-) The 12 M is definitely louder then the 356 X. It doesn't bother me but it might some.
@@MichaelPohoreski I did mention mine also came very dry, I've not set it up yet. I could potentially make it smoother. That was just my out of box experience. I'm starting to get used to the lightness too. I doubt I can do much about the catching, which is probably worse at higher speeds. Very similar to the catching in the smart cubes so I wonder if it's caused by the holes in the corner pegs. I wouldn't judge a cube by your performance with it, your performance will naturally be getting better over time anyway. It would be nice if I could blend the 2 cubes. I don't like the thin plastic it's a bit squishy when holding the cube. I also don't like the switches on the edges pieces, I'd rather something internal so it's a smoother surface. Also quietness is important to me. Cubing comfortably means I cube more, means I improve more.
if you've allready bought gan 12 i know a good setup (for me) middle magnets (on triangle core magnets) centre piece travel to 2 and tensions to 3 with weight 5 and silk and don't turn to aggressively.
Hi man I ordered my gan 12 yesterday still didn't come as for the lube if you ask reddit they all say not to use weight 5 as slow lubes makes the gan 12 worse in every way so I think you could only use silk and try it Edit: also many people on reddit say that speedy is the better option for gan than silk since it is faster but I think if you want to slow the gan then silk is good
Just got the 12 maglev and it's amazing, I had a 356x, xs, air sm and 11 m pro as my mains in the past. Nothing compares to the 12 maglev, the turning is insanely smooth and clean, the cube is very stable but I don't get the catching issue like you do, maybe you have a defective unit. Overall it's definitely worth it but it is fast, if you like slower cubes go with the leap 9.5/10 if the magnets instead of springs could be perfected it would be a 10/10 since it sometimes feels uneven
unpopular opinion - I actually like crunchy sound of GAN 12 m (maglev) .. i really liked the looseness and feel of my old MGC 3 and it "reminds" me a lot of it, even though difference is vast. don't know for sure what is causing it but I think it might be the holes in corner pieces that are slightly catching there. have you ever tried to make "hybrid cubes" ? like take pieces of GAN, core from MOYU and tension duds from somewhere else and make some kind of Frankenstein monstrosity :) could be a fun video..
I only have a standard Rubiks cube so I can't say much about whether this is good or bad, but I'm continually fascinated by how much goes into designing a cube with this many features. I think much of whether it's good or bad is just a form of trade-offs. Maglev reduces friction, but also reduces control, and corner magnets increase chances of cube alignment, but also increases amount of control needed in rotating a side. Somewhere between all these factors is a sweet spot, but everyone has a different sweet spot, so I guess that's why everything's adjustable.
@@blizzard2943 He said "we'll have to see" when asked about new Jperm Maglev cube. He do likes all Maglev cube (rs3m, WRM, Gan 12) I bet it's the rs3m again
@@whipinprogress oh well this cube will be my first one so I want to see how I like it I really never touched a pro cube so I’m hoping this cube will be a good cube. If I like it then I might as well get the second one if it comes out and I’ll use the discount code J PERM
I'm also hoping he'll choose the RS3M 21. His point for choosing the 20 version was to prove: "The best cube for you doesn't have to be super pricy. In fact, mine is a budget cube!"
I live in America and I agree about the money. I prefer Canadian, Euro, and Yen for looks over our "how many different shades of green can we use?" money...
Hey JPerm.. I recently got the Gan 12 Maglev but it does not have any catching problem that you described in this video.. Instead it's very fast and I had to put slower lubes to slow it down.. Anyways Thanks for the review.
I'm not really sure this maglev thing will take off. It's such a different feeling because of its inverse square force as oppose to linear springs. Feliks uses the leap version
Hi jperm you may love the leap but you want the uv one so if you want you may try taking the core of the uv coated and the caps of the uv and replace in the leap version. Thank you for the gan 12 maglev review
J perm: I much prefer my monopoly... I mean Canadian money. Too bad it's not worth anything. Me: *Laughs in 20 000 rubles to 1 US dollar exchange rate.*
@@vasatruhl Yea i saw comparisons of The RS3m 2020 and Meilong M, all I wanted was a really stable and smooth cube, as i didnt care much about the spring compression system, I went for the Meilong, and it turns amazingly after setup!
J perm u have both leap and maglev if u like leap more than maglev take out pieces of maglev and put them in leap version u will get leap with UV coated!!!!
yeah i have a similar ‘catching/clicky’ problems with my 11 m pro i just got, but it barely happens so it’s not too bad, just sometimes if i’m turning really fast also yes our canadian monopoly money is great pffthaha
I actually love the Gan 12 Maglev and I don’t regret spending $77 on it. It took me a few hours to get used to the turning, but now that I am, my solves are considerable faster. For reference I am sub 18 with the Gan 356 Air SM (my old cube) and sub 17 easily with the Gan 12 Maglev
I was looking for someone to compare the Air SM to the 12 Maglev! Would you consider doing the comparison? The reason is I am selling off my old GAN cubes including the SM to buy the Maglev but now I don’t feel this is best for me!!! Thanks
@@-_-Unknown_-_1233 My advice would be: if you don’t have the budget or don’t want to spend the $77, don’t. While I personally love the Gan 12 Maglev and don’t regret spending the money on it, It’s still definitely overpriced because it’s so new (relatively). If you’re not sure, I would wait until the price of the Gan 12 Maglev decreases before you purchase it. I like the cube a lot but it’s just really expensive, and it’s certainly posible to be fast with other Gan cubes or cubes of whatever brand you like. I’ve shattered by PB averages and singles with the Gan 12 Maglev, so I’m really happy with it. I’ve gotten a TON of 12 and 13 seconds solves with the Gan 12 Maglev, so purchasing it really worked out for me but that’s because the feel of the cube happens to fit with my turning style. I liked how it felt out of the box so much, that since opening it, I haven’t even lubed or tensioned it at all. Overall, I like it a LOT more than the Gan 356 Air SM, However, critics of the Gan 12 Maglev could say that the cube is “too fast” for some people if that makes sense. I think for people who say that about the Gan 12 Maglev, some lube to slow it down could really help that though. So in conclusion, if you’re wary of the super expensive price and don’t wanna drop almost $80 out of pocket for it, I’d say just wait until the cube becomes less expensive with time.
@@senordonkfish4375 thanks for your time. In response to your message, money isn’t the problem. I believe in investing in something I will use but I am struggling to justify replacing something that is perfect for me (Air SM). I liked the GAN i V2 more than the SM so thought maybe the 12. I’ll probably get it and make up my mind while twisting it. I have a fast GAN X that I am not a fan of. It feels too clumsy and fast. At least with the 12 you can tighten it etc. Thanks pal, all the best.
Hey jperm. I think there's a common mistake made with maglev. It isn't like springs . Springs repel and attract while maglev only repel or attract, thus you get a more unstable cube than with springs. Because when you pull a face toward you only the screw retain the face, the corner core magnets helps a bit but unlike springs magnets aren't linear in their pulling. I guess maglev is going to need more work before being as good as springs. I might be wrong tho.
Hey J perm, I want some tips on how to improve f2l look ahead for colours other than white because the cross, oll and pll are pretty straight forward but the most time consuming part is the f2l. I am practicing for becoming color neutral. Thanking You - Sahibpreet Singh
Just practice, I solved like month about 100 solves on two colors which I didn't usually solve and times got down almost to my white and yellow times, slow down for better lookahead
I hate this cube. One of the big problems I have with it is the implementation of the maglev. Magnets are not the same as springs because of the inverse square law. With springs, there is a linear force gradient as you compress them. But with magnets, the force between them is not linear at all. Basically the force of the magnets is inversely related to the distance between them. As you bring them closer together there is a point where the force will double and a point where it will quadruple etc. As a result, it becomes very hard to have a linear set of settings for two opposing magnets. And yet companies have decided to just use the same spring adjustment settings for these new maglev cores which is wrong. It's why some of the settings are just completely unusable. For these maglev settings to actually be somewhat linear, the notches on the adjustment system need to be one half the distance of the one that came before them. Also, the gan 12 is way too light and it feels extremely cheap as a result. Plus it catches as Dylan mentioned here. And then there is the core magnet setup, human beings when they turn something they turn it with a constant amount of force. It's just simply easier for us to do it that way, but as was shown this cube does not promote that kind of turning. So to take advantage of the "innovation" of this cube you need to turn in a way that is completely counterintuitive to most human beings. This cube frankly is a huge step back in innovation and it's what happens when a company decides to innovate just for the sake of innovation. Also that price tag is just messed up, at least with the gan 11 you can get a Duo and the duo wasn't nearly as expensive but the gan 12 is just irredeemable. Great review Jperm, it's pretty fantastic that you went out and got American money just for that gag. I hope you got a good conversion rate.
i think the reason maglev is a corrects itself a lot easier is because the maglev system's reduction of friction equates to less force required to complete a turn, which make sit easier for the corner to core magnets to correct the turn on the maglev as opposed to the leap
I started cubing when the best cubes were worth around $25 now it seems prices will never stop rising… Sadly I can’t try the latest cubes anymore as I am definitely not willing to pay that amount for a cube. I bet we’ll see $100 cubes soon enough!
Currently, only Gan and DaYan have $30+ Flagships. QiYi dictated the flow with their $25 Tornado V2. When it just came up, it was considered TOO CHEAP to be a flagship. Now we have the WRM 21 and MS3L that's are relatively cheaper.
One thing to remember is, what other hobby will you be buying the “newest and coolest” thing from for less than $100? If you look at it that way, these cubes aren’t that expensive
@@cornbob976 - A Chess set; a majority of board games and card games. - Free-to-play games. - Handwriting - Pen Spinning - Yoyos - A lot more stuff that say Gan is overpriced even in the cubing world
@@thesphyrth Objectively, Gan is still cheap. Just think about the time spent/money ratio. If you buy this thing anyways you will spend 100+ hours with it, and then it's worth it 100%
@@pogizsoli6672 I could also spend hundreds of hours with the stuff I mentioned, and they cost considerably less. $20 is more than enough. Even the WRM 21 Lite is pricy compared to them.... let alone Gan's.
I personally really enjoy the maglev, I have always loved very strong magnets in cubes and I don't mind how it feels, I still haven't fully got it set up since there is so much to do and I've only had it a little less than a week, but I think there could be many people who would enjoy it
How to describe Gan: What it should be: Gan is a Chinese company that makes the best speedcubes What it actually is: Gan is a company who sets new record highs for cube prices
As a new cuber I learned on a Moyu rs3m and got the Gan 12 because I had to see what it was like. After a week with it I can't go back to the Moyu. Well I can but I just really enjoy the quality and feel of the Gan
I think canadian money looks nicer too. Especially when size and color can be used to easily see what bill you have like what i have here with the euro
POV: You live in country that does not have a online cubing store and u order cube from other online cubing stores and the shipping ...... It costs more than the whole cube or setup in total.... Total pain..... That happened to me actually I ordered a rs3m and what do u know its 24$ that was total marketing
Same in Romania, the 12 maglev is 400 ron but with shipping from FedEx its 840 ron it's ridiculous (just the shipping is 440 ron) But I can get the epacket shipping which goes only to 450 ron (shipping is 50 ron on its own)
J Perm I got very confused when you just call it "GAN 12" I don't know if that's the MagLev or the Leap... I assume this whole video is mostly about the MagLev? Because I didn't understand if you said that the Leap has the catching issue
It's definitely the MagLev because the Leap doesn't cost $78. And he didn't mention the Leap's catching because there isn't any... at least from what I can tell when he showed his Leap Solves in the vid.
J perm I have a Gan 12 Maglev and Leap but I like the Maglev better only if you change the Number thingy to 2 and the inside thingy to setting number 4 or 5 , then add some Weight 1 for the core and lunar for the pieces that is the things that work for me !
Thanks for making me understand why I like the Leap more as well 😅
Ikr! The leap is better in almost every way. Maglev is going to need some getting used to. BTW love ur videos :)
Hey Milan. Because we have similar styles I will take your word lol.
yooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
why does j perm hate u?? do u guys talk??
Ur late
Hey j perm, maybe you can try to take out the long corner magnets and put them into the 11 m pro so there won’t be a catching problem. I don’t have the Gan 12 so I can’t try this but maybe you can? Have a great day and I enjoyed this video like always. Thanks
That sounds genius
He took the magnets out and it was still catching.
I thought of this as well but was too lazy to actually do it... maybe I will 👀
may be you can replace the hole corner pice with a gan 11 and conserv the corner magnet of teh gan 12
The magnets on the core are longer in 11 m pro so the long magnets from 12 m pro will not fit in it
When he typed "scroooooooouxed" I legitimately laughed out loud 😂.
If you didn't laugh you are not a true cuber!
Boux
@@aaronbarta3112 or maybe you have a sense of humour
Troooooooooxe
Ronaldo 😂
Gan Pricing be like:
Pakaging:15$
Adjustable Magnets:5$
Magnets(Corner-Edge):5$
Extra looooooong magnets:15$
Super-duper advanced adjusting system:10$
The actual cube:20$
*Something's missing*
Oh wait,almost forgot-
"Hope you can read chinese" Manual:7$
---------------------------
Total:78$
this all adds up to 77$ where did the 1$ go?
@@temporarynickname Gan brand and logo: 1$
@@temporarynickname is that card where they go to the absurd to try to charge you 5 bucks for a beginner tutorial
@@kaeroseon Absolutely
When JPerm was clicking between the UV and Non-UV, the difference was $6.
Dylan: went straight to English version of manual
Me: oh no, no "I hope you can read chinese" this time!
Dylan: flips the manual "I hope you can read chinese"
Me: oof, that was close
well i can read chinese? i just suck that's all
@@asiancookrice9006 lol I can too!! :)
@@ninajiang7574 TRANSLATE: 去看
(i just type 2 random “characters” if you couldn’t tell, so no i don’t want to rob a bank)
@@LDimno it means ''go watch''
from a Taiwanese
I can read Chinese lmao
So I got my gan 12 m maglev in, I’m noticing the lockup’s as well but no where near to the same extent. I’ve figured out it’s actually seems like the torpedo on the edge catching the corner. I use a looser setting which maybe why the catching is not as bad. Just a thought ( also yes it is not the magnets just from what I can see it see that when layers are flexing in the right way the edge of the torpedos will catch the corner pieces. I will re edit if I find a way to fix it)
cool!
also, please post a comment in the thread so that hopefully youTube will notify people who comment
The gan 13 be like: Well we gave u long magnets now have thick magnets.
Wait a minute...its just me or this GAN 12 magnet system look kinda T H I C C
@@khoiback1326 A nice reference from the creators of Muck and Crab Game
@@khoiback1326 lmao
Also gan will reach 13 yrs so.... Happy birthday in advance!!!
@@khoiback1326 yea thicker than 11
Can't wait for dayan to release the same cube in half the price in a couple of months.
*less than half
I have the Dayan Zheng Chi and I like it just as much as the 11 m pro :)
I had $70 in my hand so I chose the maglev because I am used to strong magnets on my 356i. The only downside, however, is that for the past 3 months I used the Air sm. AHHHHHHH!!!! After 10 minutes of this video, I made my choice. I'm goin with the maglev
Fwiw, I bought this cube and after a week my time dropped by over a second. I average 16.
Someone is going to make an "Every time Jperm says, 'Hope you can read chinese'" video soon lol
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“Hope you can read chinese” J Perm motivational quote
Me:*learns Chinese*
@@dougplayz9047 Lol
I have the gan 12 maglev and I really like it. I don't have as much as a problem with lockups but when it is on its highest magnet setting I get that you have to you use more energy so I put it on the weakest setting. I have been using it as my main for quite a while now and my average is 7.34. Thanks for the great content. ❤️
i also use it as my main
Hey what's your center travel and tension adjustment
It is interesting to see videos from when the 12 released because now everyone seems to love the 12
i think the problem to that weird lockup in the 12 maglev is when you take a close look in when you misalign the edges, you can see the edge feet got stuck on the other edge. You can see it more clearly when you loosen the cube. That's just my thought tho
Anyone remember when JPerm asked
"Is a DISCOUNTED $56 Gan Cube Worth it?"
and everybody was basically saying YES?
'you are scroooouxed'
J perm is getting better with the puns...
It's my birthday today so just got my GAN 12 Maglev, not had a chance to play around with it much yet, but I love it so far, I'm a 50 second average guy that uses the GAN 11 as my main.
j perm, i would reccomend you to try GTN setting 6 and tension at 5, this gives the cube a very stable yet great at corner cutting, and relatively fast cube, adding up with the uv coating, i have gotten my best times with this cube, hope this advice will help.
I just received my Gan 12 MAG LEV today. OMG. This cube is so incredible!
You are from Gan company 😏.
@@alphabeta4682 I am most certainly not. I’ve only been cubing for 18 months so I’m not very good but I can tell a great cube. I loved my GAN 11 M pro but the 12 is just that much better. It turns effortlessly and it is so fast.
Can you make a comparison between 12 leap and 11m pro. Many people said both are not that different and worth getting the 11mpro
Also, Dylan never failed to persuades us to learn chinese
Q
Dude, u play mlbb
4:25 He was just searching the whole pamphlet to find a spelling mistake so that he could say his signature dialog 😂
I also have the maglev version. I have found that I really like it. I don't have the catching issue but I would say I'm not as fast as yourself and maybe that is the difference. It is very loud
J perm, hi. I saw your video and I understood why it double snaps! It's because when you corner cut, you are pulling the other side of that layer. After the cut, the back side joins and makes he second snap. I hope you have a good day. Bye!
I've tried the GAN 12, and I personally like the maglev more since I have a soft turning style but strong enough to push the first turn.
Another thing to note is the different lubes and settings that can vary.
I’m getting the GAN 12 for christmas, and I’m trying to get into cubing as a beginner then get faster as I progress. Wish me luck!
Now that intro was the biggest flex of the century and that into was just fire
I am actually using a GAN 12 Maglev (I purchased before any review and decided maglev over leap because maglev was more expensive and assumed it must have been better) and I upgrade from a GAN xs. I am using nearly the same setting as your recoomendation (3-3 vs your 3-2).
I enjoyed this new turning style very much. GAN xs felt like a good quality speed cube but similar to any other speed cube. Maglev is on another level. Maglev felt smooth and super light and fast but at the same time very stable. I am having way fewer mistakes and less issues on allignment.
After getting used to the new maglev, i had to turn the setting on my gan xs way down since it felt too stiff and required too much force for each turn. And practising on maglev is much easier on my wrist and arm overall. Using XS now felt like using old rubix.
I do agree on your issue that the force required to turn maglev is not linear. But i think it just takes getting used to. I did have a lot of overshoot or overturning at the beginning.
I average 25-30 seconds roughly so my usage may differ.
Also coming from the xs, I felt the exact same way with 3-3 settings and triangle corner mag settings on strongest. I've done just under 3000 solves in the month I've had the 12 maglev and it has pushed me over the sub 14 ao100 barrier and my first sub-8 of 7.66. I just love how forgiving it feels when spamming tps even with my god awful inaccurate turning.
This comment is very reassuring because I bought the GAN12 and haven’t tried it yet - I’m glad not everyone is hating it
It's not the mag lev, it's the magnets. The 11 m pro has the same fell
@@nadia02 Same, bought it three weeks ago and haven't received it yet, and the only thin I heard from TH-camrs is that it sucks. Then i hear it from people who basically only use one cube and hence genuinely switched to the 12 maglev, and they often like it. I was getting quite scared i just burned 80 bucks on a plastic toy lmao
"... It just takes getting used to...."
Much like every other Speedcube. As long as YOU like it, you'll be determined to adjust to its quirks.
When you do solves in these types of videos, can you zoom out a little bit to show the scramble on cstimer?
Hey j perm, wishing you a very happy (late) Diwali! As a part of remainder, I started cubing as a 'gift' during Diwali from my relatives and somewhat learned to solve it with the help of your tutorial ;)
*SO THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING YOU HAVE DONE IN MY LIFE, CUBING HAS REALLY INFLUENCED ME INDEED*
I am an Indian too Happy diwali
@@tperm2504 thanks 😊
Happy Diwali! What a great time to start your cubing journey :)
@@JPerm thanks for replying :) yes ofcourse it is! As diwali is considered as a festival of lights, starting or making some resolutions is very auspicious :)
Thank you so much for this review. You saved me a lot of money, honestly.
Good job J. I was going to ask if the corner magnets were rubbing, and you took care of that.
Hey j perm thank you so much for all of the help without your tutorials I would not have gone from a a PB of 30 seconds to 10 seconds thank you so much bro I love u
A challenge or Video suggestion --> Scramble a 3x3 and then solve all the corners like a 2x2 and then solve all the edges using only M , U , S , E , D moves 👍🏼
I love this idea, but how would you solve any of the equatorial edges? none of your suggested moves touch them.
What do you do for the middle layer?
@@oliverlund2519 yea thats why i gave this video to j perm , i tried to do this but was not able to do the middle layers but if we do any other moves like R or L or B or F then the solved corners will break when the D and U layer corners are not alligned so he can do that first align the D and U corners then do any other moves so the corners dont break
I am not able to solve the middle layers thats why i gave him this idea to see how he solves it
the edges on the E layer aren't affected by M, U, or D, so they cannot be solved
Cool thumbnail Jperm, love it 😍😍😍👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽
My GAN12 is still stock, it came very dry. Mine doesn't spring back like yours when turning, it only springs forward into place with momentum it will jump forward.
It feels like less magnet force or the same as My 356 X, which is on the clear magnets.
The plastic is a bit thin, to the point the walls are squishy, I'm starting to get used to the lightness though.
I don't get the catches like you do but I think I've encountered hints they're there but haven't narrowed them down. Might be worse in some settings. It reminds me of the catches that are much worse on the GAN smart cubes, they were getting better on the newer ones. I wonder if it's the holes in the insides of the corner pieces used for charging on the smart cubes as there are similar holes on this one.
Definitely not as smooth and quiet as my 356 X, but I haven't set it up yet. I do prefer it to the 11 M pro which I never got use to, but now I'm starting to like the 11 M as well now.
Interesting that you say the 12 M isn't as smooth as the 356 X. I have both as well and thought my 12 M (Maglev) was smoother but now that I think about it you may be right!
I love my 356 X which was a huge upgrade to my Gans 356 Air. I feel like the 12 M Maglev is another huge upgrade -- at least for me.
Initially I didn't like how "airy" and light the Maglev felt but I'm quickly warming up to it and even like it more then my 356X now.
I just set a new PB of 1:06 with it. I tried the 356 X and set a PB of 1:05. I then tried the Maglev and set a PB of 1:02 so who knows if it really is an upgrade. :-)
The 12 M is definitely louder then the 356 X. It doesn't bother me but it might some.
@@MichaelPohoreski I did mention mine also came very dry, I've not set it up yet. I could potentially make it smoother. That was just my out of box experience.
I'm starting to get used to the lightness too.
I doubt I can do much about the catching, which is probably worse at higher speeds. Very similar to the catching in the smart cubes so I wonder if it's caused by the holes in the corner pegs.
I wouldn't judge a cube by your performance with it, your performance will naturally be getting better over time anyway.
It would be nice if I could blend the 2 cubes. I don't like the thin plastic it's a bit squishy when holding the cube. I also don't like the switches on the edges pieces, I'd rather something internal so it's a smoother surface. Also quietness is important to me. Cubing comfortably means I cube more, means I improve more.
if you've allready bought gan 12 i know a good setup (for me) middle magnets (on triangle core magnets) centre piece travel to 2 and tensions to 3 with weight 5 and silk and don't turn to aggressively.
Hi man I ordered my gan 12 yesterday still didn't come as for the lube if you ask reddit they all say not to use weight 5 as slow lubes makes the gan 12 worse in every way so I think you could only use silk and try it
Edit: also many people on reddit say that speedy is the better option for gan than silk since it is faster but I think if you want to slow the gan then silk is good
The GAN 13 Maglev is out!!!
Buy it.
I dare you to buy it.
The GAN 13 doesn't catch.
Just got the 12 maglev and it's amazing, I had a 356x, xs, air sm and 11 m pro as my mains in the past.
Nothing compares to the 12 maglev, the turning is insanely smooth and clean, the cube is very stable but I don't get the catching issue like you do, maybe you have a defective unit.
Overall it's definitely worth it but it is fast, if you like slower cubes go with the leap
9.5/10 if the magnets instead of springs could be perfected it would be a 10/10 since it sometimes feels uneven
Thx, so, do you recommend this cube? Im searching for a good cube
@@thehappyjens5146 absolutely, but if you're settings are tight you still experience some sort of cutting issue like JPERM said in the review video
are you kidding? why did you buy an x, xs, 11 pro and 12 maglev thats like almost 300$
@@jonathanchen1834 your point?
@@potato-km6iw spoiled moment
Does the leap have any catching issues?
unpopular opinion - I actually like crunchy sound of GAN 12 m (maglev) .. i really liked the looseness and feel of my old MGC 3 and it "reminds" me a lot of it, even though difference is vast. don't know for sure what is causing it but I think it might be the holes in corner pieces that are slightly catching there.
have you ever tried to make "hybrid cubes" ? like take pieces of GAN, core from MOYU and tension duds from somewhere else and make some kind of Frankenstein monstrosity :) could be a fun video..
i randomly finished another video and went straight to this one. youtube has my back.
4:33 that never gets old 😂
I only have a standard Rubiks cube so I can't say much about whether this is good or bad, but I'm continually fascinated by how much goes into designing a cube with this many features. I think much of whether it's good or bad is just a form of trade-offs. Maglev reduces friction, but also reduces control, and corner magnets increase chances of cube alignment, but also increases amount of control needed in rotating a side. Somewhere between all these factors is a sweet spot, but everyone has a different sweet spot, so I guess that's why everything's adjustable.
if you want a good budget 3x3 i recommend the rs3m 2021 maglev edition
That's
Good Advice thanks
I always thought the spring friction is a good thing.. maybe adding some friction into the maglev somehow, will solve this problem
It is a bad thing.
I got my GAN 13 Maglev and it turns so fast.
This isn't a typo, the GAN 13 is out!!!!
Maglev is better than springs.
I have a GAN 12 M Leap right now and I love it.
Dude I ordered my j perm cube and it’s coming tomorrow I’m really excited.
should've just wait for new Jperm
@@whipinprogress Wait there’s ganna be a newer version
@@blizzard2943 He said "we'll have to see" when asked about new Jperm Maglev cube. He do likes all Maglev cube (rs3m, WRM, Gan 12) I bet it's the rs3m again
@@whipinprogress oh well this cube will be my first one so I want to see how I like it I really never touched a pro cube so I’m hoping this cube will be a good cube. If I like it then I might as well get the second one if it comes out and I’ll use the discount code J PERM
I'm also hoping he'll choose the RS3M 21.
His point for choosing the 20 version was to prove:
"The best cube for you doesn't have to be super pricy. In fact, mine is a budget cube!"
I live in America and I agree about the money. I prefer Canadian, Euro, and Yen for looks over our "how many different shades of green can we use?" money...
I preordered the Gan 12 Maglev UV a few weeks ago, and now im watching this and im scared what it'll be like when i get it.
Hey JPerm.. I recently got the Gan 12 Maglev but it does not have any catching problem that you described in this video.. Instead it's very fast and I had to put slower lubes to slow it down.. Anyways Thanks for the review.
I'm not really sure this maglev thing will take off. It's such a different feeling because of its inverse square force as oppose to linear springs. Feliks uses the leap version
Nope he uses maglev see now he now even in his recent clip where he got an 6.10 average he uses the maglev
Hi jperm you may love the leap but you want the uv one so if you want you may try taking the core of the uv coated and the caps of the uv and replace in the leap version. Thank you for the gan 12 maglev review
J perm: I much prefer my monopoly... I mean Canadian money. Too bad it's not worth anything.
Me: *Laughs in 20 000 rubles to 1 US dollar exchange rate.*
Приветик блять у наc 1 доллар это 14500 индонезских рупий и 1 доллар это 70 рублей а не 20к
@@imweird3363 Я имел ввиду 20 000 белорусских рублей до деноминации. Сейчас это не так сильно заметно когда 4 нуля убрали. :)
@@imweird3363 у нас все по пизде, уже 430
are you guys russian, indonatian or Belarusian?
@@ork0_095 latvian :)
Wow so much has changed since I was a child! This is AMAZING
'Hope you can read Chinese' has became a new cubing meme🔥
It has years
Yup 🔥
always has been
I’m getting the GAN 12 for christmas, and I’m trying to get into cubing as a beginner then get faster as I progress.
I've always wanted a gan cube coz of how customizable they are, and how well they perform, but yeah my budget is too low for this..
Tornado v2 ch edition
@@loyaleling Lol my budget is 9$ or less
@@cqzmic_8275 then get The rs3m 2020 its The best option for under 10$
@@vasatruhl Yea i saw comparisons of The RS3m 2020 and Meilong M, all I wanted was a really stable and smooth cube, as i didnt care much about the spring compression system, I went for the Meilong, and it turns amazingly after setup!
J perm u have both leap and maglev if u like leap more than maglev take out pieces of maglev and put them in leap version u will get leap with UV coated!!!!
yeah i have a similar ‘catching/clicky’ problems with my 11 m pro i just got, but it barely happens so it’s not too bad, just sometimes if i’m turning really fast
also yes our canadian monopoly money is great pffthaha
Your Canadian money is so similar to our Australian money. Both in looks and value
I actually love the Gan 12 Maglev and I don’t regret spending $77 on it. It took me a few hours to get used to the turning, but now that I am, my solves are considerable faster. For reference I am sub 18 with the Gan 356 Air SM (my old cube) and sub 17 easily with the Gan 12 Maglev
I was looking for someone to compare the Air SM to the 12 Maglev!
Would you consider doing the comparison? The reason is I am selling off my old GAN cubes including the SM to buy the Maglev but now I don’t feel this is best for me!!! Thanks
@@-_-Unknown_-_1233 My advice would be: if you don’t have the budget or don’t want to spend the $77, don’t. While I personally love the Gan 12 Maglev and don’t regret spending the money on it, It’s still definitely overpriced because it’s so new (relatively). If you’re not sure, I would wait until the price of the Gan 12 Maglev decreases before you purchase it. I like the cube a lot but it’s just really expensive, and it’s certainly posible to be fast with other Gan cubes or cubes of whatever brand you like. I’ve shattered by PB averages and singles with the Gan 12 Maglev, so I’m really happy with it. I’ve gotten a TON of 12 and 13 seconds solves with the Gan 12 Maglev, so purchasing it really worked out for me but that’s because the feel of the cube happens to fit with my turning style. I liked how it felt out of the box so much, that since opening it, I haven’t even lubed or tensioned it at all.
Overall, I like it a LOT more than the Gan 356 Air SM, However, critics of the Gan 12 Maglev could say that the cube is “too fast” for some people if that makes sense. I think for people who say that about the Gan 12 Maglev, some lube to slow it down could really help that though. So in conclusion, if you’re wary of the super expensive price and don’t wanna drop almost $80 out of pocket for it, I’d say just wait until the cube becomes less expensive with time.
@@senordonkfish4375 thanks for your time. In response to your message, money isn’t the problem. I believe in investing in something I will use but I am struggling to justify replacing something that is perfect for me (Air SM). I liked the GAN i V2 more than the SM so thought maybe the 12. I’ll probably get it and make up my mind while twisting it.
I have a fast GAN X that I am not a fan of. It feels too clumsy and fast. At least with the 12 you can tighten it etc.
Thanks pal, all the best.
@@-_-Unknown_-_1233 I wish you all the best as well. 👍
I'd like to see a video about using different settings for white (or white and yellow for people who can make the cross with either) vs. other sides.
Hey jperm.
I think there's a common mistake made with maglev. It isn't like springs .
Springs repel and attract while maglev only repel or attract, thus you get a more unstable cube than with springs.
Because when you pull a face toward you only the screw retain the face, the corner core magnets helps a bit but unlike springs magnets aren't linear in their pulling. I guess maglev is going to need more work before being as good as springs. I might be wrong tho.
big brain
Indeed
Good point
yeah i just got the maglev and changed the gtn to 4 and it feels very unstable.
Hey J perm,
I want some tips on how to improve f2l look ahead for colours other than white because the cross, oll and pll are pretty straight forward but the most time consuming part is the f2l. I am practicing for becoming color neutral.
Thanking You
- Sahibpreet Singh
There are tons on his channel
Just practice, I solved like month about 100 solves on two colors which I didn't usually solve and times got down almost to my white and yellow times, slow down for better lookahead
9:30 that smoothness 🤤
I hate this cube. One of the big problems I have with it is the implementation of the maglev. Magnets are not the same as springs because of the inverse square law. With springs, there is a linear force gradient as you compress them. But with magnets, the force between them is not linear at all. Basically the force of the magnets is inversely related to the distance between them. As you bring them closer together there is a point where the force will double and a point where it will quadruple etc. As a result, it becomes very hard to have a linear set of settings for two opposing magnets.
And yet companies have decided to just use the same spring adjustment settings for these new maglev cores which is wrong. It's why some of the settings are just completely unusable. For these maglev settings to actually be somewhat linear, the notches on the adjustment system need to be one half the distance of the one that came before them.
Also, the gan 12 is way too light and it feels extremely cheap as a result. Plus it catches as Dylan mentioned here. And then there is the core magnet setup, human beings when they turn something they turn it with a constant amount of force. It's just simply easier for us to do it that way, but as was shown this cube does not promote that kind of turning. So to take advantage of the "innovation" of this cube you need to turn in a way that is completely counterintuitive to most human beings. This cube frankly is a huge step back in innovation and it's what happens when a company decides to innovate just for the sake of innovation. Also that price tag is just messed up, at least with the gan 11 you can get a Duo and the duo wasn't nearly as expensive but the gan 12 is just irredeemable.
Great review Jperm, it's pretty fantastic that you went out and got American money just for that gag. I hope you got a good conversion rate.
Wow thanks for that info! You've made me even more interested in magnets
i think the reason maglev is a corrects itself a lot easier is because the maglev system's reduction of friction equates to less force required to complete a turn, which make sit easier for the corner to core magnets to correct the turn on the maglev as opposed to the leap
I started cubing when the best cubes were worth around $25 now it seems prices will never stop rising… Sadly I can’t try the latest cubes anymore as I am definitely not willing to pay that amount for a cube. I bet we’ll see $100 cubes soon enough!
Currently, only Gan and DaYan have $30+ Flagships.
QiYi dictated the flow with their $25 Tornado V2. When it just came up, it was considered TOO CHEAP to be a flagship. Now we have the WRM 21 and MS3L that's are relatively cheaper.
One thing to remember is, what other hobby will you be buying the “newest and coolest” thing from for less than $100? If you look at it that way, these cubes aren’t that expensive
@@cornbob976
- A Chess set; a majority of board games and card games.
- Free-to-play games.
- Handwriting
- Pen Spinning
- Yoyos
- A lot more stuff that say Gan is overpriced even in the cubing world
@@thesphyrth Objectively, Gan is still cheap. Just think about the time spent/money ratio. If you buy this thing anyways you will spend 100+ hours with it, and then it's worth it 100%
@@pogizsoli6672
I could also spend hundreds of hours with the stuff I mentioned, and they cost considerably less. $20 is more than enough.
Even the WRM 21 Lite is pricy compared to them.... let alone Gan's.
could the catching be the holes in the corner pieces??
1, wow😨,
Hope you can read numbers😄
2
3
@@dougplayz9047 no iwas 2
Does anyone actually care about being first tho?
@@mdcuber2152 not me
Nice vid. Just bought the Jperm 3x3. BEST CUBE EVER
I personally really enjoy the maglev, I have always loved very strong magnets in cubes and I don't mind how it feels, I still haven't fully got it set up since there is so much to do and I've only had it a little less than a week, but I think there could be many people who would enjoy it
I'm one of the people who are enjoying it
Same I love the Gan 12 maglev
I just ordered it, i hope i wont regret it
@@lonk1965 same
If you love Maglev, buy the GAN 13.
1:09 I remember in 2016 when magnetic a 3x3s first became a thing everyone thought this was what cubes were going to do
How to describe Gan:
What it should be: Gan is a Chinese company that makes the best speedcubes
What it actually is: Gan is a company who sets new record highs for cube prices
Just wait like 2 months for Moyu to release the exact same thing for a fifth of the price.
As a new cuber I learned on a Moyu rs3m and got the Gan 12 because I had to see what it was like. After a week with it I can't go back to the Moyu. Well I can but I just really enjoy the quality and feel of the Gan
If you love GANcubes so much, buy the GAN 13.
It just came out.
@@Y21_Cubing you rock!
Yahoo let's goo will you really reply to everyone because iam asking this question past 1 month 😶
Wow you are here superb 👍
@@RamsayWorldYT S
I think canadian money looks nicer too. Especially when size and color can be used to easily see what bill you have like what i have here with the euro
Obviously yes, where can you find a company that sells Airpods for less than $78
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i honestly dont know why these cubes get so expensive, i can kind of understand, but great video, love your content dude keep it up!
"GAN cubes just suck
money out of your wallet"
- J perm 2021
i lowkey thought it just said GAN cubes suck
Ya
I'm no expert, but I'm mighty pleased with my $13 moyu maglev. I can't see any reason to ever spend 5x that much..
@@asiancookrice9006 they kinda do :p
@@AnunayMintoo oof i have a gan 356 and um i like my qiyi one better
In USD the gan 12 is $78 but in AUD it is 107 depending on what internals you get and uv coating is extra and AUD means australian dollars btw.
POV: You live in country that does not have a online cubing store and u order cube from other online cubing stores and the shipping ...... It costs more than the whole cube or setup in total.... Total pain.....
That happened to me actually I ordered a rs3m and what do u know its 24$ that was total marketing
What country is that? I may help you cut the price ^^
same here
ordered a 15cc bottle of comet, and the shipping is twice as much as the lube tho
Same in Romania, the 12 maglev is 400 ron but with shipping from FedEx its 840 ron it's ridiculous (just the shipping is 440 ron)
But I can get the epacket shipping which goes only to 450 ron (shipping is 50 ron on its own)
I always get so excited when I see a new Jperm video in my notifications😆
J Perm I got very confused when you just call it "GAN 12" I don't know if that's the MagLev or the Leap... I assume this whole video is mostly about the MagLev? Because I didn't understand if you said that the Leap has the catching issue
Is the maglev version
@@asu8417 ok, but it's still not clear if Leap has same catching problem as MagLev
@@hydroarx The cube what looks in the moment he got that weird lookup has UV coated body, Is the maglev
@@asu8417 yes but I don't know if the Leap has the same problem, he didn't show or say
It's definitely the MagLev because the Leap doesn't cost $78.
And he didn't mention the Leap's catching because there isn't any... at least from what I can tell when he showed his Leap Solves in the vid.
5:03 maybe the magnet adjustment system on the back corner gets stuck on the top back corner?
"Hope you can read Chinese" might be the best part of the whole video
You're scroooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooouxed
Nice jperm love your videos and jokes ❤️
You know at this point we may as well start making cubes purely out of magnets
J perm I have a Gan 12 Maglev and Leap but I like the Maglev better only if you change the Number thingy to 2 and the inside thingy to setting number 4 or 5 , then add some Weight 1 for the core and lunar for the pieces that is the things that work for me !
im guessing no
No what?
Thanks for teaching me so much about cubing
When you almost get a world record but you slightly misalign it and you get a plus 2
If you pay intention in the pieces you could see a little hole which the the main reason to caused the lockup
Does gan have a monster that needs to be fed money to be satiated?!?!
Yeah.
Jperm uploads in my birthday. Amazing!
regardless what jpem says in this video im still gonna buy the gan 12
You are wasting money my friend
And this is exactly why Gan can jack up the prices all they want.
No matter what it is ill never have enough for it :)
Also here is a challenge idea solve a rubiks cube in the dark (low light)
Me: Trying to customize the cube
my friend: are you done yet
me: no
After 2 hours
my friend: hey max are you done
me: another 1 hour
my friend: what?
Me: no another hour after this incoming hour..
Introducing the newest gan 75 it’s £90000 and it’s a solid magnet with 9 cube bags 8 bottles of lube and 12 cube stands
Me:*breaks cube*
Also me:nope,its not worth it
@@akshdevlapalli5411 thanks I'll fix that
Hello J perm, wouldn't it be cool if u made a video with a comparison between the GAN 11 m pro and the 12?
*Is Canadian
*Has US currency
*=Dylan