This reminds me so much of Dostoevsky's Brothers Karamazov where Father Zosima says we are not only responsible for self but everyone around us as well
To those who may find it helpful, When he say, not the knowledge of world (not our concept of the universe), Just think about what then he refer the world? Maybe he refer to the experience, memory, The internal world is made up of experience, beliefs, whatever we say come out of that world And what are you, even the ego is made up of the past experience you had
Your (my) suffering is actually no different than anyone else's suffering. Only the specific conditions and experiences from which we each suffer invariably differs.
He's talking about what the Buddha called Nirvana.... It's the self realization that comes before nirvana, and nirvana comes before compassion. Nirvana essentially is the extinguishing of self/soul. The realization before Nirvana is what Krishnamurti is talking about here, where if you minus your own personal story, what is left in you, in its pure form, is the pursuit of happiness/safety and attempt to escape suffering/insecurity, which is common in all mankind.
The world, is filtered through the thought process. Without knowledge, memory and experience of the world, what is the world to you? And so, the thinker, being the you, is made of thought, and so you are the world. The question is can the world change? But if the world is you, the question is can you change?
We don't see it nor realize because we don't want to see it. If we were concern totally, 100%, with changing for good to have no sense of conflict in us and creating a good society, we would see it.
My answer would be: "I don't see it, I don't want to see it, because I'm discusted with that other thing which does not care for another, exploits another, makes no effort to defend another." I imagine what the answer could be... unfortunately I will never know.
But how to say distinguish between commonality and "me" in other person when there is no real permanent self other than the empt one? This may lead to greater compassion but I am not fully convinced that similar experience makes from the rest of mankind. In one sense yes maybe, otherwise no.
This reminds me so much of Dostoevsky's Brothers Karamazov where Father Zosima says we are not only responsible for self but everyone around us as well
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Thanks to krishnamurti foundation to share these dialogs.
Ohh my God... Such a brilliant gem 🎉🎉❤❤
To those who may find it helpful,
When he say, not the knowledge of world (not our concept of the universe),
Just think about what then he refer the world?
Maybe he refer to the experience, memory,
The internal world is made up of experience, beliefs, whatever we say come out of that world
And what are you, even the ego is made up of the past experience you had
Foundation is doing excellent work by uploading these videos
Just listen!
The perception of separatism in each one of us is an obstacle. We need to share our problems collectively.
No need for sharing except with an intelligent friend...otherwise, by sharing you just multiply misery in the world..
You see what you feel therefore i am the world and i am the representation of the mankind
Insight into the actuality of such an idea is immediately transformative
You are everything!
Thank you krishnaji 🙏🙏❤️
Oh! The whole of human suffering is in me, so when the "me" comes to a complete end, then that one's suffering ends with it. 😮
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Although we are all already the Buddha, but almost no one recognise it thus suffering keeps going on…
Your (my) suffering is actually no different than anyone else's suffering. Only the specific conditions and experiences from which we each suffer invariably differs.
He's talking about what the Buddha called Nirvana.... It's the self realization that comes before nirvana, and nirvana comes before compassion. Nirvana essentially is the extinguishing of self/soul. The realization before Nirvana is what Krishnamurti is talking about here, where if you minus your own personal story, what is left in you, in its pure form, is the pursuit of happiness/safety and attempt to escape suffering/insecurity, which is common in all mankind.
I find that when you have a real interest in life and a curious life, that sleep is not the most important thing.😁
But I'm very busy in my happy life and cherish that sleep time too
The world, is filtered through the thought process. Without knowledge, memory and experience of the world, what is the world to you? And so, the thinker, being the you, is made of thought, and so you are the world.
The question is can the world change? But if the world is you, the question is can you change?
Can you, Sir?
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We don't see it nor realize because we don't want to see it. If we were concern totally, 100%, with changing for good to have no sense of conflict in us and creating a good society, we would see it.
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My answer would be:
"I don't see it, I don't want to see it, because I'm discusted with that other thing which does not care for another, exploits another, makes no effort to defend another."
I imagine what the answer could be... unfortunately I will never know.
It is hard to really deeply understand what he says❤
It is so ambiguous on words
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Yes, but does anyone else🤔
What is “anyone else” if everything is you?😁🤔
688,000 subs but only, 15,000 views. But less than 600 likes. Shame on humankind for the treatment of this intellectual take on recording.
Where can we find the full seminar.??
But how to say distinguish between commonality and "me" in other person when there is no real permanent self other than the empt one? This may lead to greater compassion but I am not fully convinced that similar experience makes from the rest of mankind. In one sense yes maybe, otherwise no.
Ma chi non sa.l'inglese?
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