That was interesting, I learned a couple cadences there... I use the crack and pause a lot to attract fish. Crack it 3-4 foot off the bottom, then let it drop right back down and pause for 10-15 seconds and repeat. I’ve done well on walleyes, Lakers, perch, speckled trout and crappies with them, they’re good lures once you have the confidence. More fun than spoons:)
Great help, I have certainly fished a bit too aggressive with my ice presentation. Most of my hits have come on a more subtle presentation when I reflect
Idk if its just new york or what but i jig a jigging rap super aggressive to start when walleye fishing and slow down if i need to but 9/10 times aggressive just works. I give 8”-1 foot jigs about 5 times a second just banging the bait a few feet off bottom and the second you see a fish on the flasher i keep jigging maybe even faster and start working the fish up about a foot a second. Ive had dozens of walleye come up from 20-30 feet and hit the bait 3-10 feet below the hole. Its quiet a show when you see your leader come up and look down the hole and see that big eye flying up right behind it
I've been ice fishing with them lures for at least 5 years now, and I have very good success with them, I get the larger perch with the green one , I've even got 2 King salmon threw the ice fishing the harbor in Racine , Wi. Great lures. Fish it like you said and have fun.
Thanx, great video because I'm just wanting to try the jigging rap this winter and hopefully catch a few with it. Have a great 2021 icefishing season ❄🎣🇨🇦😎
I got into them good last weekend with the smallest jigging rap and landed a 6.5lb walleye and perch up to 1 1/2 lbs. By the end of the day I was taking the trebel hook off of jigging raps so I could unhook them faster.
Excellent video and I agree with you 100% although I very seldom use bait with JR's, maybe I'll give it a try again. Also totally agree with you on size but I have had times where walleye were showing lots of interest but not committing and when I switched to a #9 they smashed it. I'm assuming at these times they were probably feeding on large baitfish and the #9 matched the hatch. I also usually crimp the barbs on my JR's because they can otherwise be very hard to get out when the fish gets the whole hook in its mouth. I lose a few fish this way but I release most of the fish I catch.
i already bought a ton of those baits. I think i possibly bought every color they sell in late fall cause i know how well they work and i also know how well they sell finding them becomes difficult and with this covid thing fishing has become the most popular out door activity it has ever been. This bait has also became better than real bait for me at times definitely a go to bait if your real bait isnt working good enough.
I agree. A lot of young fishermen think they know everything, and its honestly kinda funny to watch them tell you false info and also to watch them fish baits and not catch zip. Lol.
Been using jigging raps for many years catching perch on Lake Simcoe and they are awesome. Usually replace the treble with something stronger then I bait it with a red maggot - the perch love it.....
@@roniler7960 I found the treble hook they provide is not very strong so I replace it with a slightly larger red treble eagle claw.... good fishing....
@@roniler7960 same to you. I ice fish mainly for jumbo perch and tip the treble with little red maggot style grubs and the perch are usually all over it. It catches perch when others don't.... My son fishes with them all year for walleye....
@@walleyperch,Thanks sir. Ok nice,Ive never used the grubs,I usually use regular white wax worms or minnows for live bait or lure of some kind.. I usually fish for crappie,perch,& walleyes,I'll have to try the red grubs sometime.
Thanks for the tips. I have a jigging rap I've never used, but plan to this year. Think maybe I'll try a waxie wagging off the end of the tail hook and see what happens.
I bought 2 sizes a size 7 and and a size 5 so i can fish for smaller game with the 5 and when a pike or a bass comes through i can quickly change it up with a larger bait to catch those bigger fish. Having a camera will open even more benefits then a flasher cause u will know the type of species thats looking at your bait.
What size hook do you recommend upsizing too when using the #5 for walleye ? I have always struggled when using raps thru the ice. I do great using spoons or rattle baits but just never have done well with jigging raps . Gonna make a effort to refine my technique when using jigging raps this winter .
Hey Brett - Depends on inside vs. outside. Inside, as shown, I'm using a St. Croix Rods - Croix Custom Ice (CCI) Search Bait Rod. Outside, I prefer something a bit longer in the CCI Outside Eye rod. Both are medium power rods to absorb the weight and water displacement of the jig rap, and both are a fast action to both provide precise jigging motions, yet offer a bit of moderation to the break so as to keep big fish buttoned up on those hooks. Check them out here - amzn.to/3fbWYVv.
Hi there,Evening sir. Nice & imformative video,Thanks. Am curious what number/size swivel do you recommend/use for the raps both the number 5 rap & smaller size? Thanks in advance.
Use a small size. Dont go big just because you are fishing bigger fish. I personally use the VMC ones, in the second smallest size. The smallest size works great for crappie, a d other small fish, and the second smallest works good for walleye and other bigger fish. Good luck
Thanks Joel for the tips. I have always struggled with raps until i watched your video. Loved your videos on IDO too. One question, do you change out your trebbles with a long shank? Brand and size. Tnanks.
We have a snaggy bottom on our lake, and I'm thinking of removing the bottom treble and attaching it to the line loop on top. Will I still get satisfactoy action? Do you have any other snag-free suggestions. Maybe removing the treble entirely?
What i do tend to see tho with this particular bait is walleye or crappie but honestly that bait doesnt just catch those 2 species. If u are useing this bait with out a camera and just a flasher there is a high chance you are going to lose your bait. Pike love these and with 6lb test fishing for smaller game there is a high chance that line is not going to hold up to teeth cause your drag is not set for those cause your not fishing for those. Get a camera or buy a handfull of these epic baits and expect line breaks.
What rod are you using for the #5? Fishing for Perch and Walleye, I'm looking at the St. Croix Legend Black (24" or 30" Available) or a Mojo Ice rods in Medium Light (Recommended by the St. Croix guy). The St. Croix guy was selling the concept of having the spring bobber available. Not thinking you'd need that for this application, but I suppose I could use the same rod for other stuff as well. Any thought on a good rod?
Trying to learn this jig this year. Will be watching this video over and over. Is it best to tie directly to jig or can you use a snap to allow changes in jig color quickly?
I personally have the 13 fishing widow maker in the medium action for walleye. It gives a good fight and is very good with that weight of lure. The tip doesn't bend
Depends on inside vs. outside. Inside, as shown, I'm using a St. Croix Rods - Croix Custom Ice (CCI) Search Bait Rod. Outside, I prefer something a bit longer in the CCI Outside Eye rod. Both are medium power rods to absorb the weight and water displacement of the jig rap, and both are a fast action to both provide precise jigging motions, yet offer a bit of moderation to the break so as to keep big fish buttoned up on those hooks. Check them out here - amzn.to/3fbWYVv.
I was wondering that. Maybe they moved to a location where they know not many fish are by, so that they dont have a bite in the middle of explaining things.
Tip with minnow tail not head and no need to slow it down that much never had an issue always caught fish. Never used in the summer always used in the winter
I like them, they work well, and they are cheap. My go to for walleye is tingle spoon. Get the smaller size in the sparkly red. It absolutely SLAMS the wall eyes. They love it. Good luck
One guy says one thing, one guy says another, fish has science behind it but anything can work at any time. All these know it all's making money from selling their own advice is funny.
That was interesting, I learned a couple cadences there... I use the crack and pause a lot to attract fish. Crack it 3-4 foot off the bottom, then let it drop right back down and pause for 10-15 seconds and repeat. I’ve done well on walleyes, Lakers, perch, speckled trout and crappies with them, they’re good lures once you have the confidence. More fun than spoons:)
Great help, I have certainly fished a bit too aggressive with my ice presentation. Most of my hits have come on a more subtle presentation when I reflect
Best video on jigging raps!! Great work
Yes. Very informative
Jigging rap, and slender spoons are my go to lures
Thanks for all the tips. I never used a jigging rap and wanted to this year so I’ll def be using your tips this winter!
Idk if its just new york or what but i jig a jigging rap super aggressive to start when walleye fishing and slow down if i need to but 9/10 times aggressive just works. I give 8”-1 foot jigs about 5 times a second just banging the bait a few feet off bottom and the second you see a fish on the flasher i keep jigging maybe even faster and start working the fish up about a foot a second. Ive had dozens of walleye come up from 20-30 feet and hit the bait 3-10 feet below the hole. Its quiet a show when you see your leader come up and look down the hole and see that big eye flying up right behind it
Great video well put together and thanks for the tips!
Glad it was helpful!
I've been ice fishing with them lures for at least 5 years now, and I have very good success with them, I get the larger perch with the green one , I've even got 2 King salmon threw the ice fishing the harbor in Racine , Wi. Great lures. Fish it like you said and have fun.
great tips joel!
You articulate the topic to perfection. Keep up the good work!
Really good stuff right there! Thanks for doing this!
Thanx, great video because I'm just wanting to try the jigging rap this winter and hopefully catch a few with it.
Have a great 2021 icefishing season ❄🎣🇨🇦😎
You'll definitely catch some biggies if you fish it right. He's right about wanting a size 5. 7 is a little to big. Good luck
I got into them good last weekend with the smallest jigging rap and landed a 6.5lb walleye and perch up to 1 1/2 lbs. By the end of the day I was taking the trebel hook off of jigging raps so I could unhook them faster.
Super useful, Ten thumbs up
Excellent video and I agree with you 100% although I very seldom use bait with JR's, maybe I'll give it a try again. Also totally agree with you on size but I have had times where walleye were showing lots of interest but not committing and when I switched to a #9 they smashed it. I'm assuming at these times they were probably feeding on large baitfish and the #9 matched the hatch. I also usually crimp the barbs on my JR's because they can otherwise be very hard to get out when the fish gets the whole hook in its mouth. I lose a few fish this way but I release most of the fish I catch.
i already bought a ton of those baits. I think i possibly bought every color they sell in late fall cause i know how well they work and i also know how well they sell finding them becomes difficult and with this covid thing fishing has become the most popular out door activity it has ever been. This bait has also became better than real bait for me at times definitely a go to bait if your real bait isnt working good enough.
This guy knows what he’s talking about and says it succinctly. He’s a good host
I agree. A lot of young fishermen think they know everything, and its honestly kinda funny to watch them tell you false info and also to watch them fish baits and not catch zip. Lol.
@@huntersandberg9193,Like anything the more experience/experienced the more you know.
@@roniler7960 yessir. I'm only 15, but fishing is mostly what I do in the winter
@@roniler7960 I'm a much better fisherman than most of my dad's friends, not to brag, I'm just saying that what I'm saying is from experience
Thank you for this great information, apparantly I was using this lure really wrong..
Now this is good content
much more interesting is lightened balanced jig Finnish kevennetty tasuri.
New sub brother, great content on this video. About to go full binge on your channel!
This will help me alot of my trip to red lake in December
the trick to red lake walleyes is set lines. You'll have much more success with a plain hook and a minnow under a bobber
@@jacobgrina8063,Set lines as in deadsticks or tipups?
@@roniler7960 either or. Although I've been seeing alot of eyes caught jigging this year..
@@jacobgrina8063 Ok as just wondered as set lines can mean both depending who says it.
Awesome video man thanks a lot
Great video! Thank you
Well done!!
Awesome video ,Great Tips....Thank you😎👍
Been using jigging raps for many years catching perch on Lake Simcoe and they are awesome. Usually replace the treble with something stronger then I bait it with a red maggot - the perch love it.....
Replace the treble with something stronger?? Like bigger treble?,single hook?
@@roniler7960 I found the treble hook they provide is not very strong so I replace it with a slightly larger red treble eagle claw.... good fishing....
@@walleyperchOk thanks sir. Happy new year & tight lines.
@@roniler7960 same to you. I ice fish mainly for jumbo perch and tip the treble with little red maggot style grubs and the perch are usually all over it. It catches perch when others don't.... My son fishes with them all year for walleye....
@@walleyperch,Thanks sir. Ok nice,Ive never used the grubs,I usually use regular white wax worms or minnows for live bait or lure of some kind.. I usually fish for crappie,perch,& walleyes,I'll have to try the red grubs sometime.
Thanks for the tips. I have a jigging rap I've never used, but plan to this year. Think maybe I'll try a waxie wagging off the end of the tail hook and see what happens.
Good luck, let us know how it works for you!
My CC translation thinks he's saying "Chicken Wrap" 🤣🤣🤣
🤣 Close enough
I bought 2 sizes a size 7 and and a size 5 so i can fish for smaller game with the 5 and when a pike or a bass comes through i can quickly change it up with a larger bait to catch those bigger fish. Having a camera will open even more benefits then a flasher cause u will know the type of species thats looking at your bait.
Good info
Good info friend
Great information!
Thanks for the video🤙
What size hook do you recommend upsizing too when using the #5 for walleye ?
I have always struggled when using raps thru the ice. I do great using spoons or rattle baits but just never have done well with jigging raps .
Gonna make a effort to refine my technique when using jigging raps this winter .
Do you tie on direct to the jigging rap or use a snap
Direct
Great video, interested in knowing what rod you’re using if you don’t mind sharing.
Hey Brett - Depends on inside vs. outside. Inside, as shown, I'm using a St. Croix Rods - Croix Custom Ice (CCI) Search Bait Rod. Outside, I prefer something a bit longer in the CCI Outside Eye rod. Both are medium power rods to absorb the weight and water displacement of the jig rap, and both are a fast action to both provide precise jigging motions, yet offer a bit of moderation to the break so as to keep big fish buttoned up on those hooks. Check them out here - amzn.to/3fbWYVv.
Hi there,Evening sir. Nice & imformative video,Thanks. Am curious what number/size swivel do you recommend/use for the raps both the number 5 rap & smaller size? Thanks in advance.
Use a small size. Dont go big just because you are fishing bigger fish. I personally use the VMC ones, in the second smallest size. The smallest size works great for crappie, a d other small fish, and the second smallest works good for walleye and other bigger fish. Good luck
@@huntersandberg9193Thanks,What color do you use?
@@roniler7960 depends on the lake, but red, gold, and fire tiger are usually the best for me
Great tips !!
Curious how you feel about ripping rap for walleye versus jigging rap for walleye thru the ice?
Thanks Joel for the tips. I have always struggled with raps until i watched your video. Loved your videos on IDO too. One question, do you change out your trebbles with a long shank? Brand and size. Tnanks.
Curious if the bigger sized raps will work for tiger muskie?
We have a snaggy bottom on our lake, and I'm thinking of removing the bottom treble and attaching it to the line loop on top.
Will I still get satisfactoy action? Do you have any other snag-free suggestions. Maybe removing the treble entirely?
What would be the best thing to tip this with in a lake that does not allow live/dead bait? VMC with blade treble or putting a gulp minnow/head?
Great video, do you tie them every time you switch or do you use some quick snaps when you’re switching size or color
How do these things do for winter rainbows and browns?
What i do tend to see tho with this particular bait is walleye or crappie but honestly that bait doesnt just catch those 2 species. If u are useing this bait with out a camera and just a flasher there is a high chance you are going to lose your bait. Pike love these and with 6lb test fishing for smaller game there is a high chance that line is not going to hold up to teeth cause your drag is not set for those cause your not fishing for those. Get a camera or buy a handfull of these epic baits and expect line breaks.
Would it work for rainbow trout? that's what we have alot of here in utah
Yes, they work great for trout. We use them a lot during open water for trout as well.
Do you use light-weight balanced jig in nortamerica?
What rod are you using for the #5? Fishing for Perch and Walleye, I'm looking at the St. Croix Legend Black (24" or 30" Available) or a Mojo Ice rods in Medium Light (Recommended by the St. Croix guy). The St. Croix guy was selling the concept of having the spring bobber available. Not thinking you'd need that for this application, but I suppose I could use the same rod for other stuff as well. Any thought on a good rod?
Trying to learn this jig this year. Will be watching this video over and over.
Is it best to tie directly to jig or can you use a snap to allow changes in jig color quickly?
I would think directly, better control, action, and defently feel...
Directly works a little bit better, but a snap makes life 10 times easier and also faster. Good luck
Craig,I'd say try with swivel & if need be tie direct. Or tie 1 direct & 1 with swivel to see how much difference their is.
As I know the less tying on the ice the better,Atleast for me. Not to mention the ease/quickness of changing color.
What rod type would you recommend for this jig? Fast tip or light action?
I personally have the 13 fishing widow maker in the medium action for walleye. It gives a good fight and is very good with that weight of lure. The tip doesn't bend
Depends on inside vs. outside. Inside, as shown, I'm using a St. Croix Rods - Croix Custom Ice (CCI) Search Bait Rod. Outside, I prefer something a bit longer in the CCI Outside Eye rod. Both are medium power rods to absorb the weight and water displacement of the jig rap, and both are a fast action to both provide precise jigging motions, yet offer a bit of moderation to the break so as to keep big fish buttoned up on those hooks. Check them out here - amzn.to/3fbWYVv.
@@JoelNelsonOutdoors thank you.
Would these be useful at night also?
Any good for trout?
Yes, these work great for trout both in open water and ice. Size 5 and 7.
Its not legal to bait treble hooks in my state will they work good without it
Absolutely! I have buddies that will never tip them. Personal preference.
Skyler,Wow what state is that? You could always use a scent on treble hook instead of bait.
Where’s that , nazi Germany?
Great tips but you must be fishing the dead sea... how did you not call in any fish with all that jigging?
I was wondering that. Maybe they moved to a location where they know not many fish are by, so that they dont have a bite in the middle of explaining things.
Makes sense Hunter,Or the fish just weren't active/feeding at the time.
@@roniler7960 yeah, that would make sense to
Did you really just start this vid saying that you were doing a deep dive on jigs? 😂 Accidental pun?
They need to improve the fin, too many in my box without fins. Kinda stupid to keep buying these when other brands don’t have the issue.
Yup! My fin on mine broke right off the 1st day. Really dissapointing. Especially for the price.
Tip with minnow tail not head and no need to slow it down that much never had an issue always caught fish. Never used in the summer always used in the winter
I like them, they work well, and they are cheap. My go to for walleye is tingle spoon. Get the smaller size in the sparkly red. It absolutely SLAMS the wall eyes. They love it. Good luck
Hunter Sandberg my go to is a gold dojigger with a orange lightning bolt down the center walleyes love it
@@huntersandberg9193,But for jigging rap for walleyes what is your go to color?
@@roniler7960 I would say probably fire tiger for all purpose
People actually catch fish on these things 🤔
I could slam fish ALL DAY on minnows, fuck even on a bare hook.
Never once had luck with a jiggin rap.
One guy says one thing, one guy says another, fish has science behind it but anything can work at any time. All these know it all's making money from selling their own advice is funny.
Dude's just sitting in a blacktop parking lot somewhere for this video.
You see him fishing the bait. He is on the ice, not a parking lot. Lol
Great info friend