For those that are comparing this to the Mey Interceptor, this is what I have gathered so far: Pros to the Interceptor: - Slightly more powerful at the same limb power - Larger magazine capacity (18 vs 7 or 12) - Can take any bolts (this is a big one) - Bottom loaded magazine means top rail is closer to groove Pros to Revo7: - Looks more compact and breaks down smaller - Appears much easier to cock due to leverage - Slightly Cheaper (but cancelled out by cost of bolts) - True dry fire protection - Lockable trigger Negatives to Interceptor: - Larger... Though this is only slight? - No dry fire protection, but can handle dry firing even at 120lb so is slightly negated Negatives to Revo7: - Only takes proprietary bolts; this is a big negative for cost The power stats I got from both videos: Interceptor: 30lb, 8.4J. 60lb, 16J. 90lb, 24J. 120lb 33J. Revo7: 30lb, 7.8J. 60lb, 13.8J. 90lb, 24.6J. 120lb 27.8J. There were FPS numbers for Revo7, but none for Interceptor. Would be nice if this was consistent. Unknowns: - Accuracy at different ranges, both look pretty good to be honest. From the video a balloon was hit at 50m with the revo7, which the Interceptor was only tested to 30m and he landed 3 shots and missed 1 on a larger target. It looks like the Revo7 is more accurate, but then its unfair as the Interceptor was using the cheapest training bolts available. - Ergonomics and feel (e.g. Stinger ergonomics are generally reviewed as being better than Vlad) - How much size difference is there between the two? Dimensions and weight Revo7 got more accuracy testing while the Interceptor got more penetration testing; would be good to see a consistent comparison between the two if possible?
Another pro to interceptor: optics are much lower because magazine is bottom-load instead of top-load. Should "theoretically" improve accuracy... Another pro to the Revo7: higher fire rate (have to reach up to unlock the interceptor cocking mechanism)
My wife is a felon and the poor thing cant own firearms for defense (even though im legally able to do so) but its a grey area so even then im at a disadvantage. This thing looks PERFECT for me and her to use at home for home defense!! Thank you for making this possible. You Germans and your ingenuity i swear lol.
Most of the time, you just have to keep your firearms/ammo locked up without her being able to access them, to be legal. Check your state laws first. Biometrics, finger print/retina scan, is ideal. Two other options would be; 1. Any fiream that uses black powder. Pistols, rifles, shotguns that have to be loaded manually by using a 2 or more steps. Think Revolutionary/Civil War era weapons. These devices can be delivered straight to your front door with no background checks, because they are not considered "firearms" by the aft.(Lulz) Some pistols actually can fire modern cartridges with the addition of a special cylinder adapter. Black powder does have a learning curve and can be somewhat tedious, but there is plenty of videos and info out there, that will help you tremendously. 2. Air rifles have come a long way! Check out some YT vids and you will see. The caliber selection is insane!. Big bore air rifles that range from .50 cal up to .72 cal!(Yes I'm aware that the period before the number identifies the caliber! I only used the caliber abbreviation, for those who aren't familiar with the American/Standard of caliber reference. Also, it's for all the jerkoff trolls.) Air rifles can also be suppressed without any aft bullsh*t as well. Several videos show wild hogs being taken down with 1 shot. Hope this helps add to your choices. Cheers
@shannonspear8751 I totally just spat out my coffee from re-reading the OP in relation to yours 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Thanks for that mayn, i appreciate a little humor going a long way when it comes to an abysmal situation like ours 👍
In most US states she should be able to use a black powder firearm. Or an air gun. Typically they aren’t considered firearms legally in the USA. I’m not a lawyer, check local laws.
TAKE MY MONEY !!! Das gute Stück ist echt gelungen. Anscheinend sind alle Kinderkrankheiten der Adder überstanden. Bravo! Da hat die Gegenseite in Östereich echt Konkurrenz bekommen... ;)
Sure William Tell is interesting, but for the same cost as a firearm why would you go with a smaller capacity, slower reload, less takedown power, and less distance?
@thenewcamelot8873 It was marketed for the United States as well. Did you look at their site? And no, guns are restricted but not illegal. Sweden and other countries have hunting clubs.
seems the 90 is the sweet spot as the 120 advantages really drop off with only 5 - 10% gain considering the harder draw and increased wear and louder to draw. Maybe offset if the end caps make it higher quality.
@@Aereto Yea, I prefer the standard 6.3 inch options. There are a lot of ways this crossbow can become obsolete overnight (bankrupt of the company for example) With the standard 6.3 inch option you always can buy more bolts from China, Amazon and so on.
Mey interceptor I think for me. Shame though as it is cool asf. But that design of quick cockin actually has already been done by a few companies a few years back.
@@StringerBell Exactly! That was a dumb move from Ek archery. I can understand they had problems with loading and such with standard bolts, but, boy, if they have decided to go with the standard bolts, I'll buy two of REVO's... Now, I'll pass.
@@orderofmagnitude-TPATP Yea I was going to immediately buy one, I literally opened the gogun website before the video ended, but when I heard that the bolts are proprietary that stopped me in my tracks. I'll pass. Hope in the future they develop one with standard 6.3 inch bolts.
The Revo 7 would be a lot of fun for recreational shooting and hunting small game. I would imagine that it could also take down a deer or wild boar as long as you didn’t hit a large bone. I’m just not sure if it would penetrate the rib bones. I like to see it tested on something equaling the density of rib bones of deer and boars.
Well, I know archery hunting regulations for deer in AL, had a minimum of 48 lbs draw weight for recurve/long/compound bows. At least this was the standard regulation in the 1990's. Crossbows were illegal to hunt with until just a few years ago unless you had a specific type of handicap. I have no clue as to what the current crossbow regulation is, regarding the minimum draw weight for hunting deer. I would check your local state laws or the state where you are hunting. Cheers
@@1369usmc I’d never actually hunt large game with that little thing. I don’t think it would penetrate the rib bones. I do believe a bolt shot from it with a broadhead would kill large game as long as it didn’t hit bone.
Thank you again for the complete live presentation and I wanted to thank the whole team and you personally. Under €500, under €550, I wouldn't have thought that. And he's right, I would have taken it for €700 too. And as always, a bit of fun too, brilliant presentation, that's how it should be. In any case, thank you very much for your work, your commitment and your sensitivity. You work across geographical borders, I like your approach and I think your ideas and creativity would be just as popular in the USA. I'm very sure of that. Okay, you really have a problem with gun laws in Germany, but you sorted it out. You sorted something out where others failed. Created something that others thought was impossible. So thank you and the order is going out.
@@Buceesfanmaarten it could well be in fairness and I love the magazine design but the limbs are less powerful and the power stroke is shorter at 5.5' (Vs 7.5 for the Adder). The Adder can also go upto 190ib limbs whereas the Revo 7 appears to be limited to 120ibs which may be the result of having less leverage on the clocking lever. Either way this looks like a great crossbow but I wouldn't consider it over the Adder (hopefully a future iteration of the Adder will come with a similar magazine though.
I think different class. Cobra Siege is large, Adder is medium, New Interceptor is medium/Small, this is small (replacing the Vlad and other pistol crossbows)
@@carlmarkwyatt Yeah that's fair. This one seems superior for self defense but the Adder is likely still better for hunting because of the extra draw weight.
Crossbows are illegal in Norway. But if you remove the locking-system so that you need to hold the charging handle all the time, it would be classified as a bow... Just saying ;-)
@@TheAArmstrong No. You can own firearm if you have a meaningful purpose. Like hunting or competitions. Since there is no competition in Norway with crossbows and hunting with crossbow is illegal, you can not own one... Makes kind of sence...
Ungelogen : ich habe gerade erst nach einer kompakten Unterlader-Armbrust gesucht, die einen nicht absetzen lässt um zu zielen. Das ist dann ja doch eher doof an den meisten Schnelllader-Armbrüsten. Ich glaub, Jörg kann Gedanken lesen...find ich gut !
@@kawafahra mey interceptor, jorg has covered it and I believe worked on it too. Thats even better at not breaking sight and underneath loading magazine. (You know the magazine sits ON TOP of this one though right?)
"It has a red dot sight which is probably the most suitable device ....for THIS DEVICE 😂" nice product Jeorge ,you are pushing the crossbow avanguardia to the future !
Hello Joerg, 13:18 as the saying goes - there is no such thing as can't. If the path for the pump action is long enough and correctly geared, it should work just as easily with a pump action mechanism. It may be that a pumping distance of 30 or 40 cm is necessary for this, but it should definitely be possible with the right gearing. It's just up to someone who has to build it to confirm this thesis 😎
Thank you for all of time in sharing these things !! You are so appreciated here in bennington vermont J. . We love everything from a slingshot to cannons,all in between as well . Thank you !!!
@@SparkyMTB that's the deal breaker for me as I only buy 2 types of bolts. Ones for my adder and ones for my vlad. I can see sourcing these awkward arrows being a pain in time.
The factory bolts are the weak spot of these repeating crossbows. I have an Adder, but after an original bolt malfunction (busted a hole in the magazine and gogun wants $300 for just that) I only shoot bolts I make. Better quality, more reliable, and only 1/3 of the cost. Same goes for the string. There are cheaper and more reliable options. Gogun is overpriced and has the lowest quality parts/accessories.
Yeah 5mm bolt is probably due to space limited in the pistol so they had no choice.. if they fit industrial standard 6.2 then it will be called revo4 instead
@@CazSmith Shooting crossbows over 10 years, so yes, checking my bolts is a 2nd nature. However, the cheaply made factory arrows looked/feeled OK, but the shaft broke in half in the magazine, so I don't trust them anymore. These days Black Eagle Zombie Slayer shafts are used with ALL my crossbows and so far no failure.
That's a cool new repeating mag fed pistol crossbow, which is the evolution of the game. My only problem is the, yet again, proprietary bolt sizes. After already invested in the Adder platform and Steambow Stinger II, I wouldn't go for another platform that requires specific bolts. Maybe a good option for a newcomer in the sport.
Your right on about the bolt size issue. I love the 7.5 bolt size. And there's a video that shows you how to make your own bolts. Just using 18' inch carbon fiber or aluminum arrows. And they also show you how to add the flights and make the notches at the end. Great minds think alike. U ROCK. 👍👀🖖👻🤘😎🎸🎶🎵
@@F37METAL i know mate, absolutely. I've seen that video too. Atm I'm on a project of making 6.3" bolts out of hardwood dowels, steel tips, pellets to add weight and simple gorilla tape for fletching. They work well in the AR-6 mag, but are not very accurate over 10m. I will now attempt to make 7.5" versions of this bolts. Have a good one 🤘🏻
As an owner of 1 Siege, 2 Adders and 1 Vlad I say that IMO the look is very nice but totally secondary. The arming mechanism seems nice, but clearly it is all to be seen its functionality and stress resistance. Moreover this new xbow uses some all new non-standard parts (the bow and the bolts), so it has NO back compatibility with the other EK products. At least Steambow had the decency to make its M10 model fully usable with the modular bases of its old products. Last but no least, at 400+ buck the price is (always IMO, obviously) simply crazy. Ah, BTW, how was the story that the Mey Interceptor was a superior Xbow because it has a bottom-feed magazine?🤔
@@nyquil762 It depends by your exact use: every model and brand has its advantages and disadvantages. Personally, as a general concept, as now I'm partial to Steambow retrocompatibility & modular design and use of "non-proprietary" bolts. But if I must advise about a single specific xbow, my preferences still go to the EK Adder...
I remember commenting in like 2010 and asking Joerg to make an assasins creed type wrist dart gun or a spearfishing gun type catapult. I was a tourguide in Rome then and been spearfishing. He replied and said it would be easy to make but the channel is mainly sling shot based. Ha. I read this reply in st peters square. And probably replied like with a thanks. Glad to see the man flex his genius and looking so well
Das Ding ist der absolute Hammer. Ich habe mir bei der Interceptor Mey schon einen Pump-Action Mechanismus gewünscht und ich glaube wir sind jetzt bei der physikalisch optimierten Lösung angekommen, da man durch den Hebelarm doch mehr Power zur Verfügung hat. Absolutes Wahnsinns-Teil👍 Gibt es eigentlich auch Spiralfedern wie beim Lancehead in klein und und schwach? Dann würde man den Formfaktor nochmal ne Ecke reduzieren können, wenn das mit dem Repetieren noch irgendwie machbar bleibt.... jaja das Träumen hört nicht auf😂😂 Wie weit wir schon gekommen sind, ist unfassbar. Danke Jörg!
Pump Action müsstest du Arnold Schwarzenegger heißen undzwar Ende 20 in Krafttechnischer Hochform und selbst dann…. Physikalisch keinerlei Sinn mit Pump-Action, es sei denn das wird kombiniert und unterstützt mit Pressluft irgendwie möglich dass das den Druck abnimmt und man selbst 120 Pfund spannen kann als wären es 5 Pfund, dann wäre Pump Action genial.
Looks spectacular and overengineered in the best way with those captive pins and interesting cycling method and even side rails for a tactical flashlight or laser aiming device. You Germans really know what is the good stuff!😅
Hello Joerg, as you know in Germany we say: "geht nicht gibt's nicht". If the path for the pump action is long enough and correctly geared, it should work just as easily with a pump action mechanism. It may be that a pumping distance of 30 or 40 cm is necessary for this, but it should definitely be possible with the right gearing. It's just up to someone who has to build it to confirm it.
@@Slingshotchannel Hast du das schon in einem Video gezeigt? Kann mich nicht daran erinnern und ich denke ich habe alles gesehen was auf deinem Kanal zugänglich ist :) Es gibt ja aber viele Wege etwas zu bauen, ich denke mit einer dünnen Fahrradkette hättest du die geringsten Kraftverluste...
@@TheAArmstrong crazy, I'm sorry, something must be very different in Switzerland I have a Sig 550 at home as many Swiss Man and nobody commits anything with this fully automatic Assault rifle. You politicians suck.
@@ReinhardSchuster Yes they’ve just banned “zombie knives”. Basically ornamental type knives with a green handle. Next they said they will ban “ninja swords”, so katanas. Absolute muppets the lot of them. Waiting for the wood chopping “Armageddon axe” to be banned from the garden centres.
@@jonconnington8987 laws? These are routinely abused by the po-lice and Westminster childcare .obeying the nonces in Westminster is the last of my concerns ..I think you are correct though
@@SparkyMTB lucky guy. I have an adder and a vlad fully kitted out with proper red dots etc. (Pack in ones have terrible parallax but they are a freebie) I will be getting the interceptor, but can't really afford this as well, especially with those specialised bolts!
@@orderofmagnitude-TPATP hey bro thanks for all the comments. Yeah I’ve got a bunch of them now, been collecting for a few years.. had the original Stinger & now have the Stinger 2 Tactical & Compact both fully kitted out with all the upgrades including both with the M10 new magazine fed. Also have the Adder & WhipShot. & now have the Mey Interceptor & REVO7 pre-ordered. The Adder had its own bolts (same as Vlad) but all the rest I have all take the same pistol arrows / bolts so I can interchange them all (including working in the Mey Interceptor) but now the REVO7 has its own bolts so I’ve order 3 packs for now & will order the broadheads when they come out. I got all the pistol bolts, broadheads, bodkin, war bolts etc.. I bought a HOLOSUN 510c just to go perfectly on my Stinger 2 M10 Tactical, all of them have there own flashlight & laser combo by Olight. I’m still waiting for someone (JorgeSprave) to come out with a motorised ‘semi auto crossbow’ (if you type that on TH-cam you can find the video of it).
@@SparkyMTB yeah I know exactly the video, I hope that guy gets in touch with sprave as that is the next logical step. Its motorised (is that the vid you mean?)
Hello, thanks for sharing, when will your chopper become available?? Keep up the good work and vids. Keep up the good work and vids. Be safe and take care, "God Bless", sincerely, Randy. 😇🙏👊
This is cool. I do already have a vlad and adder fully customised. Unfortunately this design has been done a few times already, even 3d print plans online - but this has a proper trigger system and obviously the detachable magazine. As an ek archery owner of 2 of there products and happy with them (Although vlad can be problematic with the 90ib lim) - Unfortunately i will pass on this one; well not just because this has been done already (although probably not as good standard and with the typical cheap steambow trigger system as opposed to a proper gated system) - but my heart is set on the MEY INTERCEPTOR. that thinh really IS a game changer. I just really hope when its finally shipped (December for me) that it is good quality and not a dog, because it really looks like something special. Sorry EK, this is just an old design (good design tho) with a detachable magazine and proper trigger system... however anyone gonna say how gorgeous it looks though?
i too prefer the mey interceptor, but this one seems faster to fire and more compact. buy the mey has underloading 18 shot magazine design which is more appealing. I will almost definetly get this revo7 (or12) later as i also am a fan of ek archery products (i have 3 already), hopefully this will be cheaper than the mey interceptor which is pretty expensive.
@@ryublade8184 yea it ain't bad. Its just nothing new. Only the magazine that seemed like an after thought as everyone is doing it now. First with steambow blatantly trying to cash in on the interceptor- I mean they were constantly takin pot shots at them. (Steambow not for me as no decent trigger system. That's very important to me) - yeah this design is just old. Its been done a few times and can even 3d print one off line in that type. Its gorgeous looking, and nothing inherently wrong with it... and as an EK fan; I was kinda hoping they were gonna do an improved interceptor or something; maybe electric motor cockin so it is fully automatic. There's already a guy who's made a prototype of that. Fires 2 shots in 1.5 seconds and battery cocks 100 times.
@@glanguish9390 that can be changed really easily. I will be upgrading mine to 120ib i expect. Got a spare 140 genie limb; but thats probably to heavy. Plus I got an 80ib floating around; but I think I will get a 120ib.
Question.. are you able to put the magazine in from both sides..? I noticed on the Left & Right both have different size picatinny rails, the right one blocking the magazine. Is this a final feature or will both sides have the shorter picatinny rail so you can feed the magazine in from both sides..?
Looks like a good upgrade from the Stinger II I got some years ago. More power, larger magazine and far easier to cock. You mention the accuracy should be improved as well with these thinner carbon arrows; I'd like to see a side by side comparison with one of the older repeating crossbows.
Unless I’m wrong somehow, it looks like there is no way to just drop in a single arrow on the fly if need be, is that right? That would be my only hesitation with this design, as I would prefer a true defense tool to be able to be loaded as quickly as possible if all the cartridges were empty.
I would be interested to see a demonstration of the capabilities of the 30 lb limb because I am not sure my girlfriend could cock the 60 lb bow and it would be great if there was something she could also use in an emergency if I wasn’t there or was otherwise incapacitated.
I was just looking at the bolt package... 35eur for 10 with "This product is protected by patents."... so yeah... no. They will charge silly amounts for bolts.
Thx Doc. Great video. And Awesome product. I do like all the new features it has compared to the COBRA RX ADDER. But I still love the 7.5 bolt size. U can make extra bolts from standard carbon fiber 18' inch arrow. There's a video that shows you how to complete each bolt. And you can get 3 bolts per carbon fiber arrow. And how to fix the flights as well as the notch at the end. But still a great new crossbow. With kool features. U ROCK Doc. 👍👀🖖👻🤘😎🎸🎶🎵
One thing I didn't like about the Adder was the cocking leaver was constantly "loose" and slightly hanging down, looks like this is the same. really affects the feel of the crossbow. Quality is important.
That is simply a safety feature. You have to press the cocking lever UP for unlocking it, against the tension of the bow. This way you can’t unintentionally open it.
I really hope (but doubt) the top picatinny rail is METAL… as all these plastic (Stinger style) picatinny rails are not great when using a metal red dot sight. Metal on plastic not great… I hope it’s made of metal
@@SparkyMTB its good to meet someone who understands what a red dot is... its like the equivalent of alloy wheels for a car! I wish sprave would look into parallax to show some budget but fit for purpose red dots. Unfortunately I too had to learn this on my own through awful Chinese red dots lol.
@@orderofmagnitude-TPATP yeah I’ve got some cheap / not cheap Chinese red dots & scopes for my airsoft guns. I wouldn’t take a real optic into airsoft & risk damaging it lol. But for crossbows & air rifles etc a quality red dot / scope is quite important. Like you say it’s like alloy wheels for your car
For those that are comparing this to the Mey Interceptor, this is what I have gathered so far:
Pros to the Interceptor:
- Slightly more powerful at the same limb power
- Larger magazine capacity (18 vs 7 or 12)
- Can take any bolts (this is a big one)
- Bottom loaded magazine means top rail is closer to groove
Pros to Revo7:
- Looks more compact and breaks down smaller
- Appears much easier to cock due to leverage
- Slightly Cheaper (but cancelled out by cost of bolts)
- True dry fire protection
- Lockable trigger
Negatives to Interceptor:
- Larger... Though this is only slight?
- No dry fire protection, but can handle dry firing even at 120lb so is slightly negated
Negatives to Revo7:
- Only takes proprietary bolts; this is a big negative for cost
The power stats I got from both videos:
Interceptor: 30lb, 8.4J. 60lb, 16J. 90lb, 24J. 120lb 33J.
Revo7: 30lb, 7.8J. 60lb, 13.8J. 90lb, 24.6J. 120lb 27.8J.
There were FPS numbers for Revo7, but none for Interceptor. Would be nice if this was consistent.
Unknowns:
- Accuracy at different ranges, both look pretty good to be honest. From the video a balloon was hit at 50m with the revo7, which the Interceptor was only tested to 30m and he landed 3 shots and missed 1 on a larger target. It looks like the Revo7 is more accurate, but then its unfair as the Interceptor was using the cheapest training bolts available.
- Ergonomics and feel (e.g. Stinger ergonomics are generally reviewed as being better than Vlad)
- How much size difference is there between the two? Dimensions and weight
Revo7 got more accuracy testing while the Interceptor got more penetration testing; would be good to see a consistent comparison between the two if possible?
Bloody hell, that was incredibly thorough. Thanks
Accuracy seems like a problem imo
Another pro to interceptor: optics are much lower because magazine is bottom-load instead of top-load. Should "theoretically" improve accuracy...
Another pro to the Revo7: higher fire rate (have to reach up to unlock the interceptor cocking mechanism)
@@toasty4000000 I'm kinda waiting for the day these repeating crossbows start using that vertical limb system like on the R18
I think that over time the proprietary bolts for the REVO7 could be made by other companies, the ADDER was the same thing
My wife is a felon and the poor thing cant own firearms for defense (even though im legally able to do so) but its a grey area so even then im at a disadvantage. This thing looks PERFECT for me and her to use at home for home defense!! Thank you for making this possible. You Germans and your ingenuity i swear lol.
A Felon you say ? I Bet you have hours of fun with all that Thrust Vectoring 😜
Most of the time, you just have to keep your firearms/ammo locked up without her being able to access them, to be legal. Check your state laws first. Biometrics, finger print/retina scan, is ideal. Two other options would be; 1. Any fiream that uses black powder. Pistols, rifles, shotguns that have to be loaded manually by using a
2 or more steps. Think Revolutionary/Civil War era weapons. These devices can be delivered straight to your front door with no background checks, because they are not considered "firearms" by the aft.(Lulz) Some pistols actually can fire modern cartridges with the addition of a special cylinder adapter. Black powder does have a learning curve and can be somewhat tedious, but there is plenty of videos and info out there, that will help you tremendously. 2. Air rifles have come a long way! Check out some YT vids and you will see. The caliber selection is insane!. Big bore air rifles that range from .50 cal up to .72 cal!(Yes I'm aware that the period before the number identifies the caliber! I only used the caliber abbreviation, for those who aren't familiar with the American/Standard of caliber reference. Also, it's for all the jerkoff trolls.) Air rifles can also be suppressed without any aft bullsh*t as well. Several videos show wild hogs being taken down with 1 shot. Hope this helps add to your choices. Cheers
@shannonspear8751 I totally just spat out my coffee from re-reading the OP in relation to yours 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Thanks for that mayn, i appreciate a little humor going a long way when it comes to an abysmal situation like ours 👍
In most US states she should be able to use a black powder firearm. Or an air gun. Typically they aren’t considered firearms legally in the USA. I’m not a lawyer, check local laws.
A felon you say? Bet you drive it like you stole it
Man imagine the innovation Germans could bring if they had their own Second Amendment
They had it but then H1tler came
I agree
They gave it a good go 80 years ago…
@@marlenakiepinska1190Hitler relaxed gun laws of the Weimar Republic era and encouraged gun club membership.
Yeah, they are so innovative and clever, because their children make it through school alive.
As an American, that thing looks awesome.
Yeah of course 👌
What does being American have to do with it?
@@AllanHinde-mb2pr We know our guns.
As an European, that thing looks awesome too🤩
yeah, it does look like a firearm with that color scheme, doesn't it?
I used to watch these videos years ago. It definitely brings me back to the good old days. Keep making great videos!
TAKE MY MONEY !!!
Das gute Stück ist echt gelungen.
Anscheinend sind alle Kinderkrankheiten der Adder überstanden. Bravo!
Da hat die Gegenseite in Östereich echt Konkurrenz bekommen... ;)
ist ohne Waffenbestizkarte erhältlich, oder?
The magazine innovation is fantastic. Honestly, everything about this crossbow is exciting!
Sure William Tell is interesting, but for the same cost as a firearm why would you go with a smaller capacity, slower reload, less takedown power, and less distance?
@@1369usmc fire arms illegal in UK and other countries in Europe bud
@thenewcamelot8873 It was marketed for the United States as well. Did you look at their site? And no, guns are restricted but not illegal. Sweden and other countries have hunting clubs.
seems the 90 is the sweet spot as the 120 advantages really drop off with only 5 - 10% gain considering the harder draw and increased wear and louder to draw. Maybe offset if the end caps make it higher quality.
I bet a red dot with a 3x magnifier would be the ideal setup for that thing.
This looks amazing, but the proprietary size of the bolts is a dealbreaker for me. I need high availability and options to get arrows.
Otherwise we have to settle for handcrafting our own bolts, and few have the time and resources to practice such type of survival skills
@@Aereto Yea, I prefer the standard 6.3 inch options. There are a lot of ways this crossbow can become obsolete overnight (bankrupt of the company for example)
With the standard 6.3 inch option you always can buy more bolts from China, Amazon and so on.
Mey interceptor I think for me. Shame though as it is cool asf. But that design of quick cockin actually has already been done by a few companies a few years back.
@@StringerBell Exactly! That was a dumb move from Ek archery. I can understand they had problems with loading and such with standard bolts, but, boy, if they have decided to go with the standard bolts, I'll buy two of REVO's... Now, I'll pass.
@@orderofmagnitude-TPATP Yea I was going to immediately buy one, I literally opened the gogun website before the video ended, but when I heard that the bolts are proprietary that stopped me in my tracks. I'll pass. Hope in the future they develop one with standard 6.3 inch bolts.
The Revo 7 would be a lot of fun for recreational shooting and hunting small game. I would imagine that it could also take down a deer or wild boar as long as you didn’t hit a large bone. I’m just not sure if it would penetrate the rib bones. I like to see it tested on something equaling the density of rib bones of deer and boars.
Well, I know archery hunting regulations for deer in AL, had a minimum of 48 lbs draw weight for recurve/long/compound bows. At least this was the standard regulation in the 1990's. Crossbows were illegal to hunt with until just a few years ago unless you had a specific type of handicap. I have no clue as to what the current crossbow regulation is, regarding the minimum draw weight for hunting deer. I would check your local state laws or the state where you are hunting. Cheers
Ha hA NO PLEASE it could also take down polar bears and blue whales
You would lose your life hunting wild boar with this. Don't do it.
@@1369usmc I’d never actually hunt large game with that little thing. I don’t think it would penetrate the rib bones. I do believe a bolt shot from it with a broadhead would kill large game as long as it didn’t hit bone.
Thank you again for the complete live presentation and I wanted to thank the whole team and you personally. Under €500, under €550, I wouldn't have thought that. And he's right, I would have taken it for €700 too. And as always, a bit of fun too, brilliant presentation, that's how it should be. In any case, thank you very much for your work, your commitment and your sensitivity. You work across geographical borders, I like your approach and I think your ideas and creativity would be just as popular in the USA. I'm very sure of that. Okay, you really have a problem with gun laws in Germany, but you sorted it out. You sorted something out where others failed. Created something that others thought was impossible. So thank you and the order is going out.
This looks like a brilliant piece of kit if not an actual replacement for the Adder.
I was gonna say, seems like this made the Adder obsolete.
@@Buceesfanmaarten it could well be in fairness and I love the magazine design but the limbs are less powerful and the power stroke is shorter at 5.5' (Vs 7.5 for the Adder). The Adder can also go upto 190ib limbs whereas the Revo 7 appears to be limited to 120ibs which may be the result of having less leverage on the clocking lever. Either way this looks like a great crossbow but I wouldn't consider it over the Adder (hopefully a future iteration of the Adder will come with a similar magazine though.
I think different class. Cobra Siege is large, Adder is medium, New Interceptor is medium/Small, this is small (replacing the Vlad and other pistol crossbows)
@@carlmarkwyatt Yeah that's fair. This one seems superior for self defense but the Adder is likely still better for hunting because of the extra draw weight.
Crossbows are illegal in Norway. But if you remove the locking-system so that you need to hold the charging handle all the time, it would be classified as a bow... Just saying ;-)
You can’t even own one with a shooting license??
No crossbows common how lame
@@TheAArmstrong No. You can own firearm if you have a meaningful purpose. Like hunting or competitions. Since there is no competition in Norway with crossbows and hunting with crossbow is illegal, you can not own one... Makes kind of sence...
You can't own a crossbow but you can buy alcohol?
@@ickster23 They can buy alcohol but they can't afford to, teens go from farm to farm buying moonshine.
I've been following your work for years. Well done sir!
13:15 "hey hey! stop pointing that thing at me Joerg!"
I had the same reaction. It's funny out we think it's irresponsible and unsafe to point at...a camera. :D
Ungelogen : ich habe gerade erst nach einer kompakten Unterlader-Armbrust gesucht, die einen nicht absetzen lässt um zu zielen.
Das ist dann ja doch eher doof an den meisten Schnelllader-Armbrüsten.
Ich glaub, Jörg kann Gedanken lesen...find ich gut !
@@kawafahra mey interceptor, jorg has covered it and I believe worked on it too. Thats even better at not breaking sight and underneath loading magazine. (You know the magazine sits ON TOP of this one though right?)
"It has a red dot sight which is probably the most suitable device ....for THIS DEVICE 😂" nice product Jeorge ,you are pushing the crossbow avanguardia to the future !
Hello Joerg,
13:18 as the saying goes - there is no such thing as can't.
If the path for the pump action is long enough and correctly geared, it should work just as easily with a pump action mechanism. It may be that a pumping distance of 30 or 40 cm is necessary for this, but it should definitely be possible with the right gearing. It's just up to someone who has to build it to confirm this thesis 😎
Thank you for all of time in sharing these things !! You are so appreciated here in bennington vermont J. . We love everything from a slingshot to cannons,all in between as well . Thank you !!!
Joerg…. I wanna thank you for the years of entertainment on TH-cam 🍻
I keep saying I must have one of those and each time you keep coming up with something better!
That’s a shame they take proprietary arrows… so the 120 of my current pistol arrows won’t work in this…
@@SparkyMTB that's the deal breaker for me as I only buy 2 types of bolts. Ones for my adder and ones for my vlad. I can see sourcing these awkward arrows being a pain in time.
This looks good but I don't like the model specific bolt.
I'm still happy with my 180lb Gen3 Adder
Not gonna be beaten imo.
The factory bolts are the weak spot of these repeating crossbows. I have an Adder, but after an original bolt malfunction (busted a hole in the magazine and gogun wants $300 for just that) I only shoot bolts I make. Better quality, more reliable, and only 1/3 of the cost. Same goes for the string. There are cheaper and more reliable options. Gogun is overpriced and has the lowest quality parts/accessories.
@@richyquarter7244 never had a misfire. I check all bolt flights/heads/mountings before loading.
Yeah 5mm bolt is probably due to space limited in the pistol so they had no choice.. if they fit industrial standard 6.2 then it will be called revo4 instead
@@CazSmith
Shooting crossbows over 10 years, so yes, checking my bolts is a 2nd nature. However, the cheaply made factory arrows looked/feeled OK, but the shaft broke in half in the magazine, so I don't trust them anymore. These days Black Eagle Zombie Slayer shafts are used with ALL my crossbows and so far no failure.
That's a cool new repeating mag fed pistol crossbow, which is the evolution of the game. My only problem is the, yet again, proprietary bolt sizes.
After already invested in the Adder platform and Steambow Stinger II, I wouldn't go for another platform that requires specific bolts. Maybe a good option for a newcomer in the sport.
Your right on about the bolt size issue. I love the 7.5 bolt size. And there's a video that shows you how to make your own bolts. Just using 18' inch carbon fiber or aluminum arrows. And they also show you how to add the flights and make the notches at the end. Great minds think alike. U ROCK. 👍👀🖖👻🤘😎🎸🎶🎵
@@F37METAL i know mate, absolutely. I've seen that video too. Atm I'm on a project of making 6.3" bolts out of hardwood dowels, steel tips, pellets to add weight and simple gorilla tape for fletching. They work well in the AR-6 mag, but are not very accurate over 10m. I will now attempt to make 7.5" versions of this bolts. Have a good one 🤘🏻
"Let's me show you the feature~",
Its been awhile since I last saw your video.
Joerg when are you going to make a bullpup crossbow?
That's really cool! You continue to amaze me
As an owner of 1 Siege, 2 Adders and 1 Vlad I say that IMO the look is very nice but totally secondary. The arming mechanism seems nice, but clearly it is all to be seen its functionality and stress resistance. Moreover this new xbow uses some all new non-standard parts (the bow and the bolts), so it has NO back compatibility with the other EK products. At least Steambow had the decency to make its M10 model fully usable with the modular bases of its old products. Last but no least, at 400+ buck the price is (always IMO, obviously) simply crazy. Ah, BTW, how was the story that the Mey Interceptor was a superior Xbow because it has a bottom-feed magazine?🤔
Om new tho these. Which one is the best value in your opinion. Thanks in advance.
@@nyquil762 It depends by your exact use: every model and brand has its advantages and disadvantages. Personally, as a general concept, as now I'm partial to Steambow retrocompatibility & modular design and use of "non-proprietary" bolts. But if I must advise about a single specific xbow, my preferences still go to the EK Adder...
@@SteamBlackCat Thank you for the insight.
If the clutch had not just gone on my car I would buy one tonight. Love it.
Without the magazine in, it look like G36/XM8/scorpion evo lol
Perfect for the modern crusades
That shirt looks like the outfits Sabaton band members wear during their concerts. \m/
Is it also possible for Swiss people to purchase this piece of jewellery?
I remember commenting in like 2010 and asking Joerg to make an assasins creed type wrist dart gun or a spearfishing gun type catapult. I was a tourguide in Rome then and been spearfishing. He replied and said it would be easy to make but the channel is mainly sling shot based. Ha. I read this reply in st peters square. And probably replied like with a thanks. Glad to see the man flex his genius and looking so well
Holy crap that new magazine system is awesome! Is there any chance we'll see an adaptation of it for the Adder?
The design reminds me of a Skorpion EVO 😅
Das Ding ist der absolute Hammer.
Ich habe mir bei der Interceptor Mey schon einen Pump-Action Mechanismus gewünscht und ich glaube wir sind jetzt bei der physikalisch optimierten Lösung angekommen, da man durch den Hebelarm doch mehr Power zur Verfügung hat.
Absolutes Wahnsinns-Teil👍
Gibt es eigentlich auch Spiralfedern wie beim Lancehead in klein und und schwach?
Dann würde man den Formfaktor nochmal ne Ecke reduzieren können, wenn das mit dem Repetieren noch irgendwie machbar bleibt.... jaja das Träumen hört nicht auf😂😂
Wie weit wir schon gekommen sind, ist unfassbar.
Danke Jörg!
Pump Action müsstest du Arnold Schwarzenegger heißen undzwar Ende 20 in Krafttechnischer Hochform und selbst dann…. Physikalisch keinerlei Sinn mit Pump-Action, es sei denn das wird kombiniert und unterstützt mit Pressluft irgendwie möglich dass das den Druck abnimmt und man selbst 120 Pfund spannen kann als wären es 5 Pfund, dann wäre Pump Action genial.
Brilliant narrative.A great description. ThankYou ! ✌️🦘
Ahh man I was hoping he was going to shoot it without the stock… looks really compact 😁
Sieht super aus! Freue mich schon darauf, wenn die 3D Community sich ein paar Dinge abschaut. :)
3:23 How many feet per second does the 120 pound, 90 pound, 60 pound, and 30 pound cross bows shoot??? 3:48 never mind, you answered my questions.
Would like to see cocking 120lb in motion… I think so far we only see both revo7 and interceptor cocking 30lb and they are boring to shoot.. 😢
The premiere live stream was barely finished when I placed my order.
🐗💨💨
Jorge I'm trying to save money but damn.
I just might pull *ze trigger*
Looks spectacular and overengineered in the best way with those captive pins and interesting cycling method and even side rails for a tactical flashlight or laser aiming device. You Germans really know what is the good stuff!😅
Will the war bolts come too for this one?
Good question!
Oh okay, so that's why you released the Interceptor on 6 month pre-order.
Great video as always. Is this going to be available in the UK store?
I've seen a few shops taking pre orders with anticipated delivery March 2025...
Hello Joerg,
as you know in Germany we say: "geht nicht gibt's nicht".
If the path for the pump action is long enough and correctly geared, it should work just as easily with a pump action mechanism. It may be that a pumping distance of 30 or 40 cm is necessary for this, but it should definitely be possible with the right gearing. It's just up to someone who has to build it to confirm it.
Don’t you want to accept the challenge?
Ich habe sowas schon gebaut. Mit 40 cm kommst Du nicht aus, außer wenn die Waffe sehr schwach ist.
@@Slingshotchannel Hast du das schon in einem Video gezeigt? Kann mich nicht daran erinnern und ich denke ich habe alles gesehen was auf deinem Kanal zugänglich ist :) Es gibt ja aber viele Wege etwas zu bauen, ich denke mit einer dünnen Fahrradkette hättest du die geringsten Kraftverluste...
This looks like something to pair as a side arm to the Cobra Siege for indoor engagements.
@@Aereto I have previous generation complimentary inside weapon that goes with my kitted out adder.... the vlad.
Looks good Joerg, will it be available for the UK market?
Are Crossbows allowed in UK?
@@ReinhardSchuster For the moment. Until the “ban em” Karen’s get their way.
@@TheAArmstrong crazy, I'm sorry, something must be very different in Switzerland I have a Sig 550 at home as many Swiss Man and nobody commits anything with this fully automatic Assault rifle.
You politicians suck.
@@ReinhardSchuster Yes they’ve just banned “zombie knives”. Basically ornamental type knives with a green handle. Next they said they will ban “ninja swords”, so katanas. Absolute muppets the lot of them. Waiting for the wood chopping “Armageddon axe” to be banned from the garden centres.
You got a loicense for this question, mate?
Nice to see the innovation is going strong! 😊
That looks perfect for use in the UN United “king”Dom.good review
Is it even allowed in the UK? recently it was in the media again about restricting crossbow laws due to Kyle Clifford incident.
@@jonconnington8987 laws? These are routinely abused by the po-lice and Westminster childcare .obeying the nonces in Westminster is the last of my concerns ..I think you are correct though
@@jonconnington8987all just noise so far. No actual new laws passed, or even movement toward them.
Ahh man.. I’ve got the Mey Interceptor pre-ordered.. & now I’ve got the REVO 12 pre-ordered both coming out around the same time 😅
@@SparkyMTB lucky guy.
I have an adder and a vlad fully kitted out with proper red dots etc. (Pack in ones have terrible parallax but they are a freebie)
I will be getting the interceptor, but can't really afford this as well, especially with those specialised bolts!
@@orderofmagnitude-TPATP hey bro thanks for all the comments. Yeah I’ve got a bunch of them now, been collecting for a few years.. had the original Stinger & now have the Stinger 2 Tactical & Compact both fully kitted out with all the upgrades including both with the M10 new magazine fed. Also have the Adder & WhipShot. & now have the Mey Interceptor & REVO7 pre-ordered. The Adder had its own bolts (same as Vlad) but all the rest I have all take the same pistol arrows / bolts so I can interchange them all (including working in the Mey Interceptor) but now the REVO7 has its own bolts so I’ve order 3 packs for now & will order the broadheads when they come out. I got all the pistol bolts, broadheads, bodkin, war bolts etc.. I bought a HOLOSUN 510c just to go perfectly on my Stinger 2 M10 Tactical, all of them have there own flashlight & laser combo by Olight. I’m still waiting for someone (JorgeSprave) to come out with a motorised ‘semi auto crossbow’ (if you type that on TH-cam you can find the video of it).
@@SparkyMTB yeah I know exactly the video, I hope that guy gets in touch with sprave as that is the next logical step.
Its motorised (is that the vid you mean?)
Hi, I don't see the 30 pound limb available on the website. Is that one still planned for release?
Hello, thanks for sharing, when will your chopper become available?? Keep up the good work and vids. Keep up the good work and vids. Be safe and take care, "God Bless", sincerely, Randy. 😇🙏👊
This is cool. I do already have a vlad and adder fully customised. Unfortunately this design has been done a few times already, even 3d print plans online - but this has a proper trigger system and obviously the detachable magazine. As an ek archery owner of 2 of there products and happy with them (Although vlad can be problematic with the 90ib lim) - Unfortunately i will pass on this one; well not just because this has been done already (although probably not as good standard and with the typical cheap steambow trigger system as opposed to a proper gated system) - but my heart is set on the MEY INTERCEPTOR. that thinh really IS a game changer. I just really hope when its finally shipped (December for me) that it is good quality and not a dog, because it really looks like something special. Sorry EK, this is just an old design (good design tho) with a detachable magazine and proper trigger system... however anyone gonna say how gorgeous it looks though?
Limb on the interceptor is to weak
i too prefer the mey interceptor, but this one seems faster to fire and more compact. buy the mey has underloading 18 shot magazine design which is more appealing. I will almost definetly get this revo7 (or12) later as i also am a fan of ek archery products (i have 3 already), hopefully this will be cheaper than the mey interceptor which is pretty expensive.
@@glanguish9390 that can be changed very easily - and WILL be at 120ib when I get mine.
@@ryublade8184 yea it ain't bad. Its just nothing new. Only the magazine that seemed like an after thought as everyone is doing it now. First with steambow blatantly trying to cash in on the interceptor- I mean they were constantly takin pot shots at them. (Steambow not for me as no decent trigger system. That's very important to me)
- yeah this design is just old. Its been done a few times and can even 3d print one off line in that type.
Its gorgeous looking, and nothing inherently wrong with it... and as an EK fan; I was kinda hoping they were gonna do an improved interceptor or something; maybe electric motor cockin so it is fully automatic. There's already a guy who's made a prototype of that. Fires 2 shots in 1.5 seconds and battery cocks 100 times.
@@glanguish9390 that can be changed really easily. I will be upgrading mine to 120ib i expect. Got a spare 140 genie limb; but thats probably to heavy. Plus I got an 80ib floating around; but I think I will get a 120ib.
This amazing......I want one.
This looks beyond awesome 😎
Question.. are you able to put the magazine in from both sides..? I noticed on the Left & Right both have different size picatinny rails, the right one blocking the magazine. Is this a final feature or will both sides have the shorter picatinny rail so you can feed the magazine in from both sides..?
Habe sie grad bestellt 🎉
Looks like a good upgrade from the Stinger II I got some years ago. More power, larger magazine and far easier to cock.
You mention the accuracy should be improved as well with these thinner carbon arrows; I'd like to see a side by side comparison with one of the older repeating crossbows.
@@kaasmeester5903 Stinger 2 still rocks in my opinion. I don’t see enough reasons to upgrade personally.. plus Stinger 3 is in development
Truly awesome…I need this!
... oh, Lord. This has got me thinking...
I like the side loading mag , allowing for scope mounting.
I feel like I'd break it trying to shoot fast 😂 looks amazing though 👍
I wonder if a crossbow bolt that can penetrate safety glass like a car windshield and still be effective.
Nice lever arm. That can be tripled with a pulley system.
It's too bad that pistol crossbows are illegal here is Australia I wish the latest adder had a fixed stock so I could get one here in north Australia
I need this in my life.
Hydraulic crossbow, when? ♥
I agree, powered by small battery
1:01 What about it is patented and different from what you put out in the public domain?
Unless I’m wrong somehow, it looks like there is no way to just drop in a single arrow on the fly if need be, is that right? That would be my only hesitation with this design, as I would prefer a true defense tool to be able to be loaded as quickly as possible if all the cartridges were empty.
That looks brilliant. I want one now. 😁.
Très belle Arbalètes .Fan from Morocco
Ihre Videos heben sich immer von der Masse ab. Danke für deine Kreativität und deine einzigartige Art, die Welt zu sehen!🥅👽🪃
I would be interested to see a demonstration of the capabilities of the 30 lb limb because I am not sure my girlfriend could cock the 60 lb bow and it would be great if there was something she could also use in an emergency if I wasn’t there or was otherwise incapacitated.
oh please do one your overpowered videos on this one lol i miss your old super air gun videos :0
You are an awesome innovator!
I was just looking at the bolt package... 35eur for 10 with "This product is protected by patents."... so yeah... no. They will charge silly amounts for bolts.
Great peace of work.
thats such a cool shirt man im so jealous
For such a small package it does amazing at 30yards
You do not dissapoint Sir!! Mind blown as always!!
We need this when the new State of Decay 3 game comes out 😎
Thx Doc. Great video. And Awesome product. I do like all the new features it has compared to the COBRA RX ADDER. But I still love the 7.5 bolt size. U can make extra bolts from standard carbon fiber 18' inch arrow. There's a video that shows you how to complete each bolt. And you can get 3 bolts per carbon fiber arrow. And how to fix the flights as well as the notch at the end. But still a great new crossbow. With kool features. U ROCK Doc. 👍👀🖖👻🤘😎🎸🎶🎵
Any chance it will get cleared for the Canadian market?
My sister is not a fan of guns for home defense, unreasonable fear. This would be perfect for her, where do I get this?
I got the jag 2 yesterday, what a beautiful Boe...but this thing looks like a plasma gun
One thing I didn't like about the Adder was the cocking leaver was constantly "loose" and slightly hanging down, looks like this is the same. really affects the feel of the crossbow. Quality is important.
That is simply a safety feature. You have to press the cocking lever UP for unlocking it, against the tension of the bow. This way you can’t unintentionally open it.
so, the next step would be an electric motor reloading system?
there is a youtuber who made that, like 2 years ago
@@IslamistSocialist371 link?
The REVO 7 looks very similar to the Skorpion EVO 😅
really want one of these.
Nice video. Mey or this one??? Hard choice
it looks really tempting but you improve on things so quick How long do I wait?
Loved the effort with the bayonet😂😂👍🏻
i like shooting beer cans in my garage with my airsoft. one of those game face spring full metal toys.
I really hope (but doubt) the top picatinny rail is METAL… as all these plastic (Stinger style) picatinny rails are not great when using a metal red dot sight. Metal on plastic not great… I hope it’s made of metal
let me know what it is pls
@@SparkyMTB cool. What sight are you running?
I have a trijicon RMR for my vlad and sig sauer romeo5 for my adder.
@@orderofmagnitude-TPATP I’m running a HOLOSUN 510c on my Stinger 2 M10 Tactical works really well together
@@SparkyMTB its good to meet someone who understands what a red dot is... its like the equivalent of alloy wheels for a car!
I wish sprave would look into parallax to show some budget but fit for purpose red dots. Unfortunately I too had to learn this on my own through awful Chinese red dots lol.
@@orderofmagnitude-TPATP yeah I’ve got some cheap / not cheap Chinese red dots & scopes for my airsoft guns. I wouldn’t take a real optic into airsoft & risk damaging it lol. But for crossbows & air rifles etc a quality red dot / scope is quite important. Like you say it’s like alloy wheels for your car
I want that, but maybe with more power. Edit: nevermind you have a 120 lb spring.
Jorge make some nocks that illuminate please !