A wolf attacks a sheep, the sheep dies. Other sheep observe and notice that teeth kill sheep. The sheep remove their own teeth for their own safety. Daft.
My serrated large bread knife is a true zombie knife. And the blade alone is about 30 cm in length. It's feared by every baguette and giant artisan loaf of bread.
What about those bread knife Carving knife things that have a flat or scalloped blade one side, and a serrated blade the other, full length, 10-12 inches. Oh and a double pointed tip! (A fork for sliced meat serving I belive)
The criminals have plenty of guns and the law says they are not allowed to own them. Surprise surprise... Law abiding citizens can't own anything, the criminals who don't care about the law have their ways anyway.
This ban is going to do absolutely nothing to stop the people who use knives for violence from having them. All it is going to do, as usual, is affect those of us who use them for work. They're just making sure that the normal guy has no way of defending him or herself when the need arises
@@joejones9520you are being simplistic. Most illegitimate knife carrying is from fear of the opposition. Trouble is that already scared and pumped me, usually young, can lose control easily. You have a theory. Check what they have done in Scotland which has massively reduced homicide over the last 15 years.
@@freman007 not realy most of the people caught by the new knife laws would be guilty of breaking laws already in place. I think stabbing and killing people has been illegal for a very long time. However some laws do seem to be drafted with intentions that don't make any sense to me and probably many other people too.
@@davidbanks6658 The new laws are there to project the idea that something is being done to help solve a problem for which nothing can be done. It's just PR.
Same sh*t as in Germany. You are only allowed to carry knifes that have 12cm blades max. If you have a folding knife it is only allowed to be carried if you can only open it with both hands and there are zones where knifes are forbidden. The criminals (wich we are importing massivly in our country) use knifes that are longer then 12cm, attack people in zones where they are forbidden and so on, so they don't care for the laws ( i mean yeah killing someone is already forbidden). Now they want to make a law wich forbids us to carry knifes that are longer then 6cm and they want to get more zones where weapons are forbidden. I don't know what the point of it is, because like i said the criminals are already doing everything wich is forbidden. The only point of those laws is to ban every possible weapon for citizens, that is what authoritarian regimes do, censorship, restrict freedome of speech and forbid every possible weapon so we are helpless. Democracy is in danger, they are trying to abolish democracy!
@jacoberasmus2250 they do understand, but they can't ban chefs knives and need to seem to be doing something so the pearl clutching, daily mail reading, "won't someone think of the children" brigade are appeased for 5 minutes.
Ironic, as while I don't,condone 'knife crime' in any way, shape or form...the only way to prove the futility of demonizing blades simply based on their appearance, is for knife crime NOT to go down 😱. That, and given the '💩 show' that is the updated guidance, ironic how many perfectly innocent people..be they collectors, chefs etc...will be banged up over a knives physical appearance😱. Govt in a panic as only 100 prison spaces left country wide. Best you open another..purely to house 'chefs & collectors 😱😱
The words "no one needs" drives me NUTS!!! It's like we live in some country where we shall be given ONLY what the government deems we need, and nothing we WANT. I'm tired of this oppressive mindset!
It's not even the government that says it, it's other citizens. "Nobody needs a..." or "I don't see why anyone would need a..." My response is always "Are you somebody important?"
This is such a dumb law. They’re trying to ban a style rather than an actual feature or type of knife, so of course they’re having trouble defining what it actually is.
@@occamraiserlol, then they’ll do stabbings with screwdrivers next, then they’ll require a permit for those and then they’ll beat you to death with old men’s walking canes. You’re delusional if you think keeping weapons out of the everyday citizen’s hands and outlawing self defense reduces crime…it just makes easier targets for those who are criminals. You’re a blight on free society.
@@occamraiserI repeat, this type of thinking is a BLIGHT to a society of FREE PEOPLE. Leaving the everyman defenseless. You have lost your country with this thinking.
The fact they focus their attempts on banning knives instead of focusing on the main issue is just laughable. Locking blade knives aren’t at fault here.
Exactly. Ban certain knives...out come the kitchen knives. Ban those 😱, out come the axes, the hammers, the crowbars etc etc etc...those who seek to cause harm will always find a way
* Looks at Czechia where you can buy and carry anything that is not an automatic firearm or an explosive while being much safer than the UK * Maybe the issue lies elsewhere?
@@CS-zn6pp The intended victim's ability to defend themselves would deter criminals, particularly if defending yourself against criminal assault isn't treated as a crime. It's been proven countless times.
Wait, £10 per knife? So I can sharpen some flat steel bars, sharpen them, wrap the handles, drill two holes in them and sell them for £10? Don't even need to heat treat 😂 Based. Imma make bank. That bench grinder was a good investment
Not very good at maths are you. You would make a tiny amount of money doing that. You could probably make one blade per hour at best with the tools you have.
Madness. I mean if you're going to f**k someone up, you're not going to use an expensive blade to then have to throw it away. It isn't bushcrafters, preppers and collectors who are the problem. I mean, I have a poundshop across the road from me, where I could buy a cheap as sh*t 12" Kitchen knife for £2.60. Surely those are the threat and not custom made tools that we use as outdoors people.
Yep! Exactly this! Street thugs want cheap, easily accessible, easy concealed and disposable knives. Not expensive, handmade, bulky, large knives. That's why the vast majority of knife crime is carried out with cheapo kitchen knives.
I'll never give up my 10 inch Bowie knife collection. That I bought from *Sussex Armoury* in the 1970's. Though Sadly, I've taken them down from displaying them on the wall. Funny thing is, I've had the collection for over 50 years and in all that time. I've never felt the need to go out and stab or kill someone with them. D'oh!!
Bowie knives wouldn't fall foul of this law as they don't usually have serration. Kind of ironic as they are definitely designed as weapons rather then tools.
As an Australian who owned several firearms at the time that we were disarmed in the 90s, I advise taking this legislation seriously. I sold my firearms, rather than hand them in, but came into owning an Airsoft pistol in the mid 2000s. One which was purchased over the counter in the late 80s. The cops got wind of it, and I ended up serving three months weekend detention, and am now a registered terrorist, as firearm offences are a subsection of the Terrorism Act in Australia. It was said to me at the sentencing that "anything that fires a projectile carries the same weight as a sawn-off shotgun under Australian law". Never underestimate tyrants...
Meanwhile in Freedomland, even dangerous felons are allowed to have air rifles than can take down an elk. Yes, such air rifles exist and yes, felons can actually own them. Also, felons can own black powder revolvers and muzzle loafing rifles. And black powder cannons. Easy access to weapons vs. lunatic orange ex president. Tradeoffs!
@@longrider42 You got it! Even a slingshot made with a forked stick, a leather shoe tongue, and a rubber band will get you charged with posession of a prohibited weapon. We used to have a gun that you stuck the muzzle into a potato and broke off a piece and fired it. They were fun, and not at all powerful. (Funnily enough it was called a "potato gun", or a "spud gun".) THAT will get you charged! My solicitor was the big stick at the local gun club. His exact words were "Australia has some really f*cked up gun laws". I think bows are legal with a permit, but crossbows were outlawed years ago.
I went to the bushcraft show earlier this year. There was a small police presence, as knives are a part of bushcraft lots of people openly carrying knives on their belts. I didnt. As I didn’t see the need. Some people wild camped in the woods . ( so you can see the need) The entire weekend, loads of people walking around with knives on their belts. Guess what. Not a single person was stabbed. Why is that? I wonder what the influencing factor would be.
This is what should be at the heart of the conversation. Why is there is a generation of 50 year old men who can be trusted with a blade on their belt. Could it possibly be that education is the answer! When I was a kid, using a knife was a privilege that got revoked if you were caught messing around and being dangerous. Then you'd be the only kid that couldn't use a knife. When everyone else could sit there and whittle, you just had to find something else to do. The lack of trust stung. Now young people aren't trusted to do anything, least of all handle a blade. It's no surprise that they don't know how to behave when there are so many gaps in their education. The other huge question that should be at the heart of the debate, is why they're banning this, that, and the other, when kitchen knives are the predominant knife used in fatal and serious stabbings. There have been A&E doctors among others who have clearly said that kitchen knives are the problem. But there are no official govt stats to quote, because there are no stats for it at all. Despite it being clearly obvious to everyone, other than those making the laws. There seems to be an intentional blind spot when it comes to actually working on a solution. Which is all kinds of messed up, both for the added annoyance to those who use knives as tools, and kids are still going to be stabbed by kitchen knives even after all the machetes and fantasy knives are erased from these shores. Just a waste of time that will do nothing. I'd like to see the parents of those affected by knife crime talking about it being kitchen knives that killed their kids, not fantasy knives and zombie machetes. I'd like to see them talking about how this new legislation will make no difference because it's an invented problem. And that kids like theirs will die too, until we have a serious conversation about the causes of knife crime, and how to actually tackle it. It's not by banning certain types of knife though, that's for sure.
First they came for the guns , and the violence continued. Then they came for the knives, and the violence continued. Next, they came for the billy clubs, the hatchets, axes, tire irons and cricket bats... And the violence continued. Finally, they came for the sticks and the rocks .. and one guy said... Maybe it's not a problem with the tools!?
Should the UK ever come under 'ground assault's attack just hope you Americans will step up to defend us. Why? I hear you ask. At this rate, and under this government and given where British society is heading the extent of our defense will consist of tossing crumpets and rainbow stickers at the enemy. Can totally see why your 'right to bear arms' is of such importance. It's the legitimate collectors (like myself) in all this I feel sorry for. As for reducing knife crime, this will do nothing
All such bans are ridiculous. Carrying a fixed blade (or locking blade) knife in the UK is already unlawful unless you can demonstrate proper lawful purpose. Carrying any article for self-defence or for aggressive purposes is already unlawful. Using a knife for the purpose of intimidation or physical assault is already unlawful. The nefarious use of knives in the UK (and the legitimate use of knives in several circumstances) is already outlawed by so many different bits of legislation that banning any particular design of knife is absolutely meaningless. The young gang member carrying a knife on the streets could already be arrested and locked up for so many crimes that adding another charge pertaining to the particular style of knife he was carrying is just pointless. It's all about pandering to the alarmist media and ignorant, over-excited voters.
I think it’s actually about disarming the public. One piece of pointy equipment at a time, little by little. Maybe one day you’ll need a license to operate a screwdriver, and every lathe, welding set and milling machine will have a spy camera fitted; to make certain weapons aren’t being made.
Ahh yes the law under which I have to surrender two of my knives, get compensation and buy two different knives. All with the aim of stopping a different person with a entirely different type of knife from the two mentioned above, stabbing someone…
The law here just gets more bizarre by the minute 🙄 do the lawmakers not speak to front line police who tackle knife carrying thugs ? Every time a knife appears on the latest “ fly on the wall “ police show it’s a kitchen knife or a machete !
The police are morons mate. They take photos of themselves holding screwdrivers and bicycle pumps claiming they've taken dangerous objects off the streets. Cops are partisan now
It's not bizarre, it makes perfect sense when you realize that they're malevolent and want the innocent individual to be unable to protect themselves. As so eloquently put by someone else in these comments "laws only affect those who obey them anyway".
Should imagine so when the extent of an offense mounted by your average brit on the street, at this rate, will consist of lobbing crumpets and rainbow stickers at them. Should imagine they'll leave us Brits be though. Why? Safe to assume even zombies 'pity the pathetic'
95% of Stabbings in the UK are committed with kitchen knives. The main reason being is that Kitchen knives are easily & cheaply accessible. For under £5 or USD 5. A police officer friend of mine who works in the Metropolitan police in London told me that the gangs that carry knives have learnt that they basically have a free pass to carry a kitchen knife in a plastic shopping bag. If they are stopped & searched by the police, they simply say they’ve just bought it from the supermarket and are on their way home to preparing, lunch or dinner. The police have no choice but to let them go. After they have committed their crime, they can easily dispose of the cheap knife in the drain, Gutter river or throw it on someone’s roof so it falls in the gutter. They don’t want expensive zombie knives because they want something that is cheap, effective and disposable. Banning sorts and jumping knives is simply political grandstanding and headline grabbing but will do nothing to prevent stabbings. In fact it will probably increase the number of stabbings as more gangs resort to carrying kitchen knives, which they have a legal and permissible reason for carrying. If a criminal is planning to murder someone that they simply stop at the supermarket first to purchase a kitchen knife, keep the receipt in case they are stopped and searched by the police, then commit their crime and then dispose of the knife. Easy.
On the plus side it means that wearing a mail t-shirt under whatever else you have on, even a relatively inexpensive one, is an effective defence.... from personal experience can say that you'll likely end up with a nice bruise, but a cheap knife is liable to break on the armour.
My youngest daughter, until recently practised in a South London A&E which sees a high incidence of injuries caused due to violent acts. She would often describe a night shift as being "a bit stabby". On enquiring a few months ago if she had ever witnessed injuries caused by a sword or other large edged weapon, her comment was: "I've never seen one. If such was admitted while I was not on shift, I'm sure I would of heard about it. Even machete woundings are pretty rare here. I'd say the majority would be caused by easily obtained kitchen knives. It would be difficult to conceal a longer blade, surely?"
This a conservative law, the previous zombie knife ban was a conservative law. Who exactly are you voting for? You can't vote for "Reform" the first thing nazis do when they get into power is remove all your rights and weapons.
Voting is rigged! Wake up. The voting machines are "Dominion." The word means "to rule over others against their will." THEY are laughing at us! It will all come down to God in the end. THEY are doing the same type of thing in Canada. THEY are culling 94% of global population with plans to enslave the rest. How do I know? THEY are telling us through the State propaganda disguised as news. WAKE UP PEOPLE. Citizens throw rocks at Trudeau and curse at him. Does that sound like a leader elected by the people? "Dominion"!!! Really??
These restrictions could be a serious issue for scuba divers, deep sea divers and commercial fishermen. They must have a knife with a serrated edge that can quickly cut them free of entanglements and fishing nets. Scuba knives will often have multiple holes to reduce their weight.
@@thatgearguytotally agree , I'm sure the parents of young mainly black children do aswell. Yet channel 4 again tries to make stop and search a race thing .
@thatgearguy you should want them to enforce laws equally before wanting them more robust. Otherwise you just get a more robust two tiered justice system.
Banning this stuff makes absolutely no sense, it's clearly law written by people who have no clue why people own larger knives. If you're going to break the law by attacking someone with a knife, breaking the law by owning a large knife isnt going to be the thing that makes you reconsider. People who are the issue already have no regard for the law. This is the same with gun ownership decades ago, legitimate gun owners commiting crimes is extremely rare, yet guns are all over the streets and used by gangs for violent crimes every single week, we just dont hear about it anymore.
These people are so out of touch if they think any of this is going to change anything. Carrying a long knife is already banned and stabbing people is also illegal, do they think people who are going around committing violent acts cares about these laws?
I have a vintage "I cut my way" out door sheath knife, and a couple of AK47 bayonets that I bought some years ago. They are all kept behind glass as antique historical items. Along with an American Vietnam helmet and a German ww2 helmet. There are also many glass, pottery and wooden objects that we have collected over the years. I'm starting to get a bit concerned that if the authorities did visit my home they could arbitrarily assume I was a racist knife welding terrorist. We collect all manner of antique/vintage items of interest to us. I used to run a pub and I ran the kitchen. I have quite a few kitchen knives that were very expensive. These are more lethal than all the novelty knives you can/could buy online. What's to stop a kid or a person with bad intent from taking a knife from the kitchen or going to Asda and buying a 10 inch chefs knife and going on to commit a crime? I've got a shed load of tools. I keep a tool box in the boot of my car. A wheel brace, a torque wrench and a hammer plus a socket set and spanners. Does this mean I am equipped to go for out and commit a crime? I also carry a small trolley jack, which I've used on a few occasions to change wheels on my own and my daughter's cars. If I hit someone with a trolley jack it's going to hurt. Does that mean trolley jacks could be considered as a weapon? For fucks sake.
Spot on with the kitchen knives. I always wanted a set of high quality Japanese chefs knives, so some years ago, I bought a set. they cost me a lot, but are what I always wanted. I taught myself how to sharpen them properly, and when I do you can shave with them, and they are a wonderful tool to have in my kitchen. but in the wrong hands, they are a lethal weapon. but, they're perfectly legal to own like so many people on here are saying. so banning knives is not the answer, its making those that use them in crimes pay the price for what they've done.
It frustrates me that there will be so many civil servants of various kinds, that we are paying, obsessing over whether a knife has particular serrations or jimping or whatever instead of just prosecuting criminals. The criminalisation of objects that are cosmetically slightly different to similar, but legal objects is just madness. EDIT; Forgot to say that this was a very useful summary of the law changes - thank you 🙏
Sad for us collectors....As we know, it will do nothing to stop the criminals... Do I hand my Grandfather's old machete over to?... it's got ridiculous,criminals will be laughing. BTW great upload, I really appreciate your channel. All the best.❤
No, it isn't. Quite the opposite. It is lack of control. The people in charge are lack of control to do something effective. They do not know how to stop the knife crimes. In lack of an obvious solution, they do an obvious thing. They tighten the law. Useful or not. To prevent these kind of laws, make a better solution a common belief. Most people fail on that, too.
Nearly 100% of people in the UK own a knife of some description, that is more than capable of doing damage if one so desired. Knives arent the problem, people are, and the people harming others don't care what is and isn't legal, or even ultimately what the knife looks like
Nobody needs a 100.000 bucks gas guzzlers racing down the back roads, but nobody wants to ban them. Nobody needs 3 ton SUVs, running over kids. But nobody is banning them. But knifes nobody misused ever? Yeah, they need to be banned…. Regards from Germany, where they think about more knife bans, too 👎
They wouldnt do that, as they already know it wont make a difference. its all about getting control over you. here in Australia, we havent gone down that rabbit hole so far, and I hope we dont.
the people making these laws haven’t done a day of manual labour in their lives. there are all kinds of thorn trees that make navigating dense wood or brush very dangerous. i guess ill just cut corners when trying to make public walkways safer, it seems loke thats what they want me to do.
@@frakismaximus3052 maybe so but they have plenty of criminals on the streets already it seems to me that the government favours some groups over other groups
Take my “Rambo” knife from me try! Knife was made before the move and was in The Bush Wars in Africa. This knife has legs! And as a knife user…that old Bauchop is way more useful than your knife is. I would hate my finger burn chalking up on the blade with your knife. In a court of law I would use your style of knife to be useless and unnecessary. Side note. My bush knife is illegal. A 3.5” flip blade. Years in the bush in many countries and my love is a small blade flipper. No one needs really serrations or funny additions to there knife. I have processed elephants, hippos and Cape Buffalo with just a 3.5” flip knife truth if I had serrations it would have been a harder job. Next you will argue (not with that knife…that’s a zombie knife) how do you baton wood? Simple answer. Never needed to. I do not live in a city and buy wood. There is so much dead fall and dead twigs on the trees you can make a fire. Large wood is easy to break or just burn the full length till you can break it and burn again. I feel so sad for UK. You lost so much skills.
UK law is funny. I collect Kukris, but I specifically collect "villager" kukris, not military ones. The fact that mine were forged as tools and not as weapons, makes a significant difference under UK law. Particularly with oversized kukris. The two which almost fell foul of the sword with a curved blade laws a while back, are Georgian era, so they are genuine antiques, and they're culturally important because of the fact they were a central part of Nepalese animist religions, most of which are now forgotten. So I have 3 possibilities for exemptions in the future. But I fear it will get ever more stringent with regards to knife laws. They have no comprehension of manual labour, even as a hobby. So they dream up ridiculous catch all's, that end up making life a nuisance for law abiding owners, while doing nothing about the scourge of kitchen knife stabbings.
We have a weird situation where my shotguns are currently less restrictive than my knives. Carrying a shotgun in public is genuinely easier in law than a knife is, you could even be carrying both and get charged for the knife while being within your rights to carry the shotgun. Laws are written by idiots
I’m from the UK. Just got back from a trip to Bulgaria. They don’t seem to have these ridiculous laws and regulations which are purely just parliamentary stunts to make it look like the government actually work and give a fuck. Walking down the streets of Bulgaria you’d see shops with all manner of items. Toy shops specifically, full of toys and games but also BB guns and “cool looking” knives. Other shops were selling “war” axes, daggers, machetes and the like. These weren’t hidden in the back like specialty items. They were actually right at the front. Not even behind a window. Essentially out on the street. You know what they didn’t seem to have. You guessed it, KNIFE CRIME. Among many other things. I didn’t see drug related crime (excluding maybe the sale of weed) or homelessness or disenfranchised youth and minorities slaying each other over gang disputes. From our perspective this is meant to be a poorer / less developed nation but in fact life seems 10x better because the government knows their place.
When they realise that this won't do shit then they're gonna change the way they report on it. Y'all need to take back your country ASAP or else I don't even want to think about where the formerly "Great" Britain is gonna end.. Fkn hell...
End..oh, that ship has sailed. Given that 'Britain' had been about for, oh, a while, it baffles how this country had been reduced to nothing in such a short space of time. Can't pinpoint when things went into freefall...but if I could afford to emigrate I would (time for a reversal, dinghy full of Brits heading to France..turnabout's fair play)
@@sylviapage2159 Also, I just don't care for my country anymore because it has utterly and completely betrayed me, but I still believe it can be saved or rather I know it can be! But I don't have the money, agency or even the right connections to do so, but I come from a hard life, so I don't believe in just giving up, cause that shit don't get ya nowhere! Cheers bruvva ☺️
@@MarkusMöttus-x7j oh,I'm confident the country could be turned around. No denying it would be an uphill battle. It just needs persons in positions willing to do something about it. Vote me on next time round...I'll get this 💩hole back on course
@@MarkusMöttus-x7j i won't directly post my feelings on that...as in the UK 'freedom of speech/expression' has apparently been eradicated, pretty much overnight (and getting banged up wouldn't be my first choice'. Know where you're coming from though (feel free to 🤣 at the UK if you...the rest of the 🌍 is)
*As a distinguished gentleman of impeccable foresight, one must express a profound concern that this legislation, in its regrettable shortsightedness, will render myself-and indeed, the entire British populace-woefully impotent in the face of the inexorable zombie apocalypse that looms on our horizon.*
Do they seriously think that a criminal is considered about the type of knife they use? Most of them use kitchen knives anyway. Did the 1997 firearms amendment act stop shootings? No. Granted we’ve had nothing like that in schools but we have had issues with firearms either way. All this new law does is punish civilians by taking away there work tools, collections and most of all it makes the public utterly defenceless.
I'd urge anyone surrendering or amnestying blades to paint them bright pink or otherwise deface them by painting "I was a collectable that sat in a case for X ammount of years" or writing statistics of kitchen blades being used in more than 90% of crime so as the police can't use them in the inevitable propaganda photos.
Too bad. The knive laws in general are a bit weird, but it looks like England is always a big step ahead when it comes to knive restrictions. Can't you sell your beautiful collectors knives to the mainland? I am sure here in the EU are many people who share the love for well made knives and would be happy to buy them second hand.
This law is so amazing because now a criminal would definitely be concerned about getting a legal knife . Definitely going to lower knife crime rates and not just another law which will turn regular people who need them for garden work into criminals!
Mine are in a bag ready to be handed in,said on the form if you want compensation you have to sign to say you are the owner of the knives on September 1st,and if you want to to apply for a consideration of higher payment than £10 then they want proof of receipt etc and a photo,gutted this has happened,id even purchased a security cabinet anchored to the wall iif there had been a option,but no! Spoil it for the collectors! but having already had a visit from the police last year worried my collection could fall into the hands of criminals if i got broke into then ive got no choice,glad i still get to keep my Pohl Force Last Blood 🗡️
@@donaldcarr8766Well, they're trying to erase and change our history so I doubt they'll care too much. They'll probably do as the Swedes did and melt historical artifacts down for scrap the way things are going.
@tomr2982 unfortunately the way our country is I'm not sure it would based on the world war trench knife (the one with the knuckleduster handle) even if they are antique I think they are still fully illegal
Murder, attempted murder etc. etc. is already illegal... but isn't a deterrent to some people... Knife control, like gun control, doesn't work and just criminalises normal people.
I didn’t realize how strict the knife laws are in the UK. It seems so often that the laws only infringe on the law abiding citizens without actually impeding the criminals in any meaningful way. Yet politicians point to the laws they’ve passed as though they have accomplished something.
Luckily there is nothing that is going to be covered under the new ban in my collection, my machetes are all plain edged and all my knives are either made for practical use or military collectibles, so there are few serrations or holes in blades, other than one blade which has some serrations near the handle (sog seal pup elite) and a AK bayonet with a single hole for wire cutters, neither of which would be banned by the new law. Ironically, many of the blades I have are designed as weapons, old ww2 bayonets, 19th century sabres and the like. While the junk covered by this ban is gonna take a very determined effort to cause significant injury to someone. The whole ban is stupid, we need a gang violence initiative and immigration controls, not banning knives with features which are for display. Even if this won't affect me, I still find it so damn stupid. Do you know if there will be exemptions for antique knives, double sided jab saws, bread knives and other things?
@@StraightOuttaUrbex say what you want im taking a zombie knife over a regular knife any day i was raised in a theater so im kinda a sucker for the dramatic element
@@apkidlafirm522 did i say anything about film use etc no i didn't the title of it was branded by the stupid media and the morons who are mental enough to think zombies are real its just a knife to me
Firstly, what is the problem with holes being in the blade?? Secondly, I have to surrender my knives at home whilst certain people can run around in public waving long bladed machete and are at worst ASKED by the police to hide them...
Stop and search was working. I think intent is the problem not the shape of the blade. Someone carrying a knife in a place where there is no reason to have one is probably the problem
A wolf attacks a sheep, the sheep dies. Other sheep observe and notice that teeth kill sheep. The sheep remove their own teeth for their own safety.
Daft.
That's why we call them sheep.
Quality post man 👌👌👍👍.
Pencils cause misspelled words.
@@keeganfisher2327 yeah right
My serrated large bread knife is a true zombie knife.
And the blade alone is about 30 cm in length. It's feared by every baguette and giant artisan loaf of bread.
You've got a genuine point there, bread knives are serrated way longer than 2 inches! So there has to be more to that?
But a bread knife has ONLY a serrated edge. The new legislation states the serrated edge must be in addition to the standard edge.
@@Bridgercraft: what exactly are the difference between the two ?
What about those bread knife Carving knife things that have a flat or scalloped blade one side, and a serrated blade the other, full length, 10-12 inches. Oh and a double pointed tip! (A fork for sliced meat serving I belive)
Does it have a lime green handle? Because that seems to be the problem.
"Hey guys, they've banned our knives! We better stop stabbing people!"...said no criminal ever
The criminals have plenty of guns and the law says they are not allowed to own them.
Surprise surprise...
Law abiding citizens can't own anything, the criminals who don't care about the law have their ways anyway.
@@spamfritters1 wanker
Southport killer used a kitchen knife.
As did the majority of idiots around the country.
Any knife would do that job.
Can't you see the flaw in your comment?
@@barriebriggs1802he’s making the point that there is no point banning one one when you can kill with any!
95% of stabbing are done with kitchen knives
BAN KITCHEN KNIVES!
This ban is going to do absolutely nothing to stop the people who use knives for violence from having them. All it is going to do, as usual, is affect those of us who use them for work. They're just making sure that the normal guy has no way of defending him or herself when the need arises
it's going to ensure that the attackers are safe from being harmed by their victims...
No. Work is always an exception.
@@joejones9520you are being simplistic. Most illegitimate knife carrying is from fear of the opposition. Trouble is that already scared and pumped me, usually young, can lose control easily.
You have a theory. Check what they have done in Scotland which has massively reduced homicide over the last 15 years.
@@julianshepherd2038 good grief
You aren't using zombie knives for work and any knives you use as genuine work tools you have an excuse to own.
And yet knife crime will continue to rise we all know kitchen knives are used 99% of the time during violent crime 🙄
And screwdrivers the rest of the time?
Import people from the 3rd world and your country becomes the 3rd world....who ever would have guessed
Knife crime will increase, because every time a new law is created it creates more criminals.
That is the sole purpose of law.
@@freman007 not realy most of the people caught by the new knife laws would be guilty of breaking laws already in place. I think stabbing and killing people has been illegal for a very long time. However some laws do seem to be drafted with intentions that don't make any sense to me and probably many other people too.
@@davidbanks6658 The new laws are there to project the idea that something is being done to help solve a problem for which nothing can be done. It's just PR.
The UK is ridiculous, most of the crimes are done with cheap kitchen knives ffs
Kitchen knives, screw drivers, chisels. Hell a fist full of keys will make a mess if the attacker is determined enough.
Same sh*t as in Germany. You are only allowed to carry knifes that have 12cm blades max. If you have a folding knife it is only allowed to be carried if you can only open it with both hands and there are zones where knifes are forbidden. The criminals (wich we are importing massivly in our country) use knifes that are longer then 12cm, attack people in zones where they are forbidden and so on, so they don't care for the laws ( i mean yeah killing someone is already forbidden). Now they want to make a law wich forbids us to carry knifes that are longer then 6cm and they want to get more zones where weapons are forbidden. I don't know what the point of it is, because like i said the criminals are already doing everything wich is forbidden. The only point of those laws is to ban every possible weapon for citizens, that is what authoritarian regimes do, censorship, restrict freedome of speech and forbid every possible weapon so we are helpless. Democracy is in danger, they are trying to abolish democracy!
You seem to be under the impression that they're doing this for safety... They're setting a standard for future bans until it's all gone
It use to be but as ciminals got use to buying them they became moe popular than kitchen knives..
It’s almost like they don’t understand how criminals operate, laws only oppress those who choose to obey them
They know, they just want YOU to aquiesce and submit to their power.
It's all about empowering the state
I'd imagine Mp's don't know how criminals operate...but apparently winning a few votes grants you instantly with knowledge (who knew 🤣)
@jacoberasmus2250 they do understand, but they can't ban chefs knives and need to seem to be doing something so the pearl clutching, daily mail reading, "won't someone think of the children" brigade are appeased for 5 minutes.
Ironic, as while I don't,condone 'knife crime' in any way, shape or form...the only way to prove the futility of demonizing blades simply based on their appearance, is for knife crime NOT to go down 😱. That, and given the '💩 show' that is the updated guidance, ironic how many perfectly innocent people..be they collectors, chefs etc...will be banged up over a knives physical appearance😱. Govt in a panic as only 100 prison spaces left country wide. Best you open another..purely to house 'chefs & collectors 😱😱
The words "no one needs" drives me NUTS!!!
It's like we live in some country where we shall be given ONLY what the government deems we need, and nothing we WANT.
I'm tired of this oppressive mindset!
It's not even the government that says it, it's other citizens.
"Nobody needs a..." or "I don't see why anyone would need a..."
My response is always "Are you somebody important?"
@@thepenultimateninja5797 very true.
These people are authoritarians- usually who live in a big city and think they have the right to dictate what other people need. It drives me crazy.
@@thepenultimateninja5797I always say "nobody NEEDS an abortion" and watch them go off their box
It is called communism
This is such a dumb law. They’re trying to ban a style rather than an actual feature or type of knife, so of course they’re having trouble defining what it actually is.
Just like the anti gun folk in the USA trying to ban " assault style" weapons. Like wtf does that term even mean? ,, lol
Trying to ban something that everyone already has and is widely available is not only a dumb idea, but it does nothing to address the actual problem.
The law is kept intentionally vague for a reason.
It gets dumber and dumber all the time.
Its not ignorance, its malice
Much like the average voter, unfortunately.
@@viciousKevmalice fueled by ignorance to be exact!
@CajunReaper95 its not ignorance, its a complex plan to irradiate and replace you
@@viciousKevThe laws seem too stupid for me to believe they aren’t created from ignorance
So they are going to spend taxpayers money to buy knives from the public? this is madness.
I hope not - I hope they just outlaw them and the people who never had any legitimate use for them are out of pocket.
@@occamraiserlol, then they’ll do stabbings with screwdrivers next, then they’ll require a permit for those and then they’ll beat you to death with old men’s walking canes. You’re delusional if you think keeping weapons out of the everyday citizen’s hands and outlawing self defense reduces crime…it just makes easier targets for those who are criminals. You’re a blight on free society.
They will just spend the money on more knives
@@occamraiserI repeat, this type of thinking is a BLIGHT to a society of FREE PEOPLE. Leaving the everyman defenseless. You have lost your country with this thinking.
Knives are not for defence.
The fact they focus their attempts on banning knives instead of focusing on the main issue is just laughable.
Locking blade knives aren’t at fault here.
Exactly. Ban certain knives...out come the kitchen knives. Ban those 😱, out come the axes, the hammers, the crowbars etc etc etc...those who seek to cause harm will always find a way
My current pocket knife has a 4.5 inch blade with _two,_ count 'em, _two_ locks.
This is a pretty insane law as it's not like the serration makes them more dangerous as weapons.
What's the main issue?
@@andrewdarowski1975immigration
* Looks at Czechia where you can buy and carry anything that is not an automatic firearm or an explosive while being much safer than the UK * Maybe the issue lies elsewhere?
Indeed. Difficult to deal with the real issue though isn't it. Much easier to just scapegoat innocent people. The UK is a pathetic place.
The fact is no one wants to call it out
Deal a the real issue for fear of being insensitive or racist
Britain for Britain’s
that's because of demographics....
That wouldn't work in London.
@@CS-zn6pp The intended victim's ability to defend themselves would deter criminals, particularly if defending yourself against criminal assault isn't treated as a crime. It's been proven countless times.
Diversity is our strength 😆🤮
Wait, £10 per knife? So I can sharpen some flat steel bars, sharpen them, wrap the handles, drill two holes in them and sell them for £10? Don't even need to heat treat 😂
Based. Imma make bank. That bench grinder was a good investment
Do it
They don't even need to be very sharp at all
Just make sure the blade is over 8 inches as well, and yes job done.
What about katana swords?. I’m a collector myself.
Not very good at maths are you. You would make a tiny amount of money doing that. You could probably make one blade per hour at best with the tools you have.
Madness. I mean if you're going to f**k someone up, you're not going to use an expensive blade to then have to throw it away.
It isn't bushcrafters, preppers and collectors who are the problem.
I mean, I have a poundshop across the road from me, where I could buy a cheap as sh*t 12" Kitchen knife for £2.60. Surely those are the threat and not custom made tools that we use as outdoors people.
Yep! Exactly this! Street thugs want cheap, easily accessible, easy concealed and disposable knives. Not expensive, handmade, bulky, large knives. That's why the vast majority of knife crime is carried out with cheapo kitchen knives.
Yeah where I grew up it was almost all kitchen knives and the occasional katana/large bowie (usually 15 inch)
Yet sheep do nothing but complain. 😂
Don't try and apply commonsense to it because the government doesn't
@@Bridgercraft The vast majority of stabbings in London are committed with kitchen knives with blades between 4-6" and plastic handles.
I'll never give up my 10 inch Bowie knife collection. That I bought from *Sussex Armoury* in the 1970's.
Though Sadly, I've taken them down from displaying them on the wall.
Funny thing is, I've had the collection for over 50 years and in all that time. I've never felt the need to go out and stab or kill someone with them. D'oh!!
At least there will be no online purchase history for those knives, but yes certainly wise to not display them anymore.
They can trace your youtube comments
The Dear old Sussex Armoury. 🤔
@@wright1048good luck !m behind 7 firewalls. Also, fuck any police who would do something similar to honest citizens
Bowie knives wouldn't fall foul of this law as they don't usually have serration.
Kind of ironic as they are definitely designed as weapons rather then tools.
As an Australian who owned several firearms at the time that we were disarmed in the 90s, I advise taking this legislation seriously. I sold my firearms, rather than hand them in, but came into owning an Airsoft pistol in the mid 2000s. One which was purchased over the counter in the late 80s. The cops got wind of it, and I ended up serving three months weekend detention, and am now a registered terrorist, as firearm offences are a subsection of the Terrorism Act in Australia. It was said to me at the sentencing that "anything that fires a projectile carries the same weight as a sawn-off shotgun under Australian law". Never underestimate tyrants...
Meanwhile in Freedomland, even dangerous felons are allowed to have air rifles than can take down an elk. Yes, such air rifles exist and yes, felons can actually own them. Also, felons can own black powder revolvers and muzzle loafing rifles. And black powder cannons.
Easy access to weapons vs. lunatic orange ex president. Tradeoffs!
So I guess a Bow or Crossbow or even a high powered Slingshot would fall under that law. Wow, how stupid.
@@longrider42 You got it! Even a slingshot made with a forked stick, a leather shoe tongue, and a rubber band will get you charged with posession of a prohibited weapon. We used to have a gun that you stuck the muzzle into a potato and broke off a piece and fired it. They were fun, and not at all powerful. (Funnily enough it was called a "potato gun", or a "spud gun".) THAT will get you charged! My solicitor was the big stick at the local gun club. His exact words were "Australia has some really f*cked up gun laws". I think bows are legal with a permit, but crossbows were outlawed years ago.
@@DarthIckus Wow, that is so wrong. I hope all that is behind you now. Take care and stay strong.
Meanwhile, I carry a concealed Canik Mete 9mm handgun every day and whatever size knife I feel like carrying. Prayers from Texas.
What a pathetic country this has turned in to
Your sentiment is about 300 years late in being expressed.
Your sentiment is about 300 years late in being expressed.
@@TestUser-cf4wj yep, it began after Cromwell betrayed us all
@@user-jh8no1zb9e I'm afraid USA is next😞😞💯
I went to the bushcraft show earlier this year.
There was a small police presence, as knives are a part of bushcraft lots of people openly carrying knives on their belts.
I didnt. As I didn’t see the need. Some people wild camped in the woods . ( so you can see the need)
The entire weekend, loads of people walking around with knives on their belts.
Guess what. Not a single person was stabbed. Why is that? I wonder what the influencing factor would be.
This is what should be at the heart of the conversation. Why is there is a generation of 50 year old men who can be trusted with a blade on their belt. Could it possibly be that education is the answer!
When I was a kid, using a knife was a privilege that got revoked if you were caught messing around and being dangerous. Then you'd be the only kid that couldn't use a knife. When everyone else could sit there and whittle, you just had to find something else to do. The lack of trust stung.
Now young people aren't trusted to do anything, least of all handle a blade. It's no surprise that they don't know how to behave when there are so many gaps in their education.
The other huge question that should be at the heart of the debate, is why they're banning this, that, and the other, when kitchen knives are the predominant knife used in fatal and serious stabbings. There have been A&E doctors among others who have clearly said that kitchen knives are the problem. But there are no official govt stats to quote, because there are no stats for it at all. Despite it being clearly obvious to everyone, other than those making the laws.
There seems to be an intentional blind spot when it comes to actually working on a solution. Which is all kinds of messed up, both for the added annoyance to those who use knives as tools, and kids are still going to be stabbed by kitchen knives even after all the machetes and fantasy knives are erased from these shores. Just a waste of time that will do nothing.
I'd like to see the parents of those affected by knife crime talking about it being kitchen knives that killed their kids, not fantasy knives and zombie machetes. I'd like to see them talking about how this new legislation will make no difference because it's an invented problem. And that kids like theirs will die too, until we have a serious conversation about the causes of knife crime, and how to actually tackle it. It's not by banning certain types of knife though, that's for sure.
First they came for the guns , and the violence continued.
Then they came for the knives, and the violence continued.
Next, they came for the billy clubs, the hatchets, axes, tire irons and cricket bats... And the violence continued.
Finally, they came for the sticks and the rocks .. and one guy said... Maybe it's not a problem with the tools!?
So true ! The so called leader's are mind blowingly stupid.
Now you know why us Yanks are so adamant about keeping our guns.
I think the hole of the Western world now needs too follow the Yanks
Keep up the fight, if given an inch the politicians will take miles.
You need them to protect you from Kinder Eggs
@@nettrawler1202can't give an inch...I hear Starmer's planning on outlawing those next 😱🤣
Should the UK ever come under 'ground assault's attack just hope you Americans will step up to defend us. Why? I hear you ask. At this rate, and under this government and given where British society is heading the extent of our defense will consist of tossing crumpets and rainbow stickers at the enemy. Can totally see why your 'right to bear arms' is of such importance. It's the legitimate collectors (like myself) in all this I feel sorry for. As for reducing knife crime, this will do nothing
All such bans are ridiculous. Carrying a fixed blade (or locking blade) knife in the UK is already unlawful unless you can demonstrate proper lawful purpose. Carrying any article for self-defence or for aggressive purposes is already unlawful. Using a knife for the purpose of intimidation or physical assault is already unlawful. The nefarious use of knives in the UK (and the legitimate use of knives in several circumstances) is already outlawed by so many different bits of legislation that banning any particular design of knife is absolutely meaningless. The young gang member carrying a knife on the streets could already be arrested and locked up for so many crimes that adding another charge pertaining to the particular style of knife he was carrying is just pointless. It's all about pandering to the alarmist media and ignorant, over-excited voters.
I think it’s actually about disarming the public. One piece of pointy equipment at a time, little by little. Maybe one day you’ll need a license to operate a screwdriver, and every lathe, welding set and milling machine will have a spy camera fitted; to make certain weapons aren’t being made.
Socialism is awesome, huh?
@@Zippadeedoodaa-nt8om Its all the main parties, they all piss in the same bucket on this one.
And ensuring the proles are nice and docile and aren't likely to get a bit stabby when the thought police come knocking on their door.
Spot on
Ahh yes the law under which I have to surrender two of my knives, get compensation and buy two different knives. All with the aim of stopping a different person with a entirely different type of knife from the two mentioned above, stabbing someone…
Of cxaose it.will or why would they spend millions on this.
Just keep your knifes
The law here just gets more bizarre by the minute 🙄 do the lawmakers not speak to front line police who tackle knife carrying thugs ? Every time a knife appears on the latest “ fly on the wall “ police show it’s a kitchen knife or a machete !
The police only harass people speaking out on Facebook criticizing the stupid laws.
The police are morons mate. They take photos of themselves holding screwdrivers and bicycle pumps claiming they've taken dangerous objects off the streets. Cops are partisan now
That would need common sense 🙄 they want us unarmed of any kind of weaponry 😢
Make no mistake, police never say no to another law.
It's not bizarre, it makes perfect sense when you realize that they're malevolent and want the innocent individual to be unable to protect themselves. As so eloquently put by someone else in these comments "laws only affect those who obey them anyway".
Everyone with half a brain and a grain of honesty knows why these laws come about , trouble is you can be arrested for telling the truth .
Well I guess Zombies will now feel safer to walk the streets.
Should imagine so when the extent of an offense mounted by your average brit on the street, at this rate, will consist of lobbing crumpets and rainbow stickers at them. Should imagine they'll leave us Brits be though. Why? Safe to assume even zombies 'pity the pathetic'
95% of Stabbings in the UK are committed with kitchen knives. The main reason being is that Kitchen knives are easily & cheaply accessible. For under £5 or USD 5. A police officer friend of mine who works in the Metropolitan police in London told me that the gangs that carry knives have learnt that they basically have a free pass to carry a kitchen knife in a plastic shopping bag. If they are stopped & searched by the police, they simply say they’ve just bought it from the supermarket and are on their way home to preparing, lunch or dinner. The police have no choice but to let them go. After they have committed their crime, they can easily dispose of the cheap knife in the drain, Gutter river or throw it on someone’s roof so it falls in the gutter. They don’t want expensive zombie knives because they want something that is cheap, effective and disposable. Banning sorts and jumping knives is simply political grandstanding and headline grabbing but will do nothing to prevent stabbings. In fact it will probably increase the number of stabbings as more gangs resort to carrying kitchen knives, which they have a legal and permissible reason for carrying. If a criminal is planning to murder someone that they simply stop at the supermarket first to purchase a kitchen knife, keep the receipt in case they are stopped and searched by the police, then commit their crime and then dispose of the knife. Easy.
On the plus side it means that wearing a mail t-shirt under whatever else you have on, even a relatively inexpensive one, is an effective defence.... from personal experience can say that you'll likely end up with a nice bruise, but a cheap knife is liable to break on the armour.
You forgot to mention that the legislation only applies to natives of the country.
This is like trying to prevent drowning accidents by banning water.
My youngest daughter, until recently practised in a South London A&E which sees a high incidence of injuries caused due to violent acts. She would often describe a night shift as being "a bit stabby".
On enquiring a few months ago if she had ever witnessed injuries caused by a sword or other large edged weapon, her comment was: "I've never seen one. If such was admitted while I was not on shift, I'm sure I would of heard about it. Even machete woundings are pretty rare here. I'd say the majority would be caused by easily obtained kitchen knives. It would be difficult to conceal a longer blade, surely?"
The UK citizen had more freedom in the Middle Ages than they do now. How ironic!
Votes have consequences. Vote accordingly.
There are only 2 parties realistically, and both are just as bad as each other when it comes to nannying us.
@@noire1001then spoil your paper.
This a conservative law, the previous zombie knife ban was a conservative law. Who exactly are you voting for? You can't vote for "Reform" the first thing nazis do when they get into power is remove all your rights and weapons.
Voting is rigged! Wake up. The voting machines are "Dominion." The word means "to rule over others against their will." THEY are laughing at us! It will all come down to God in the end. THEY are doing the same type of thing in Canada. THEY are culling 94% of global population with plans to enslave the rest. How do I know? THEY are telling us through the State propaganda disguised as news. WAKE UP PEOPLE. Citizens throw rocks at Trudeau and curse at him. Does that sound like a leader elected by the people? "Dominion"!!! Really??
If voting made a difference they wouldn’t let you do it.
Another publicity stunt doing zero to stop crime.
Pathetic.
Who the eff makes these worthless laws?
Next well be eating our delicious Chinese meals with paper chopsticks.
That would probably be cultural appropriation : D
Scared, weak effeminate men.
Succulent my freind
Worthless people.
These restrictions could be a serious issue for scuba divers, deep sea divers and commercial fishermen. They must have a knife with a serrated edge that can quickly cut them free of entanglements and fishing nets. Scuba knives will often have multiple holes to reduce their weight.
Police are more tooled up than ever before, and the authorities seem very concerned that the public isn't. Maybe there is a correlation.
I would like to see the police be more robust.
@@thatgearguy i think we will see that. The question is, with whom will they be more robust.
@@thatgearguytotally agree , I'm sure the parents of young mainly black children do aswell. Yet channel 4 again tries to make stop and search a race thing .
@@thatgearguyoh they will be if you’re indigenous, others in society not so much 🙄🤷♂️
@thatgearguy you should want them to enforce laws equally before wanting them more robust. Otherwise you just get a more robust two tiered justice system.
This will not effect knife crime, once again only punishing law abiding citizens
Sending weapons, tanks and shells to Ukraine, while forbidding knives at home. Exactly my sense of humor.
Well said
All the law-abiding citizens will follow the law while the criminals will continue to be armed. This is what happens here in the states.
what a load of bollocks the politicians feed us now days. and us the general public just lap it up and ask for seconds
@@leeskelton3339 a minority of lions being lead around by the short and curlies by sheeple and donkeys.
Banning this stuff makes absolutely no sense, it's clearly law written by people who have no clue why people own larger knives.
If you're going to break the law by attacking someone with a knife, breaking the law by owning a large knife isnt going to be the thing that makes you reconsider. People who are the issue already have no regard for the law. This is the same with gun ownership decades ago, legitimate gun owners commiting crimes is extremely rare, yet guns are all over the streets and used by gangs for violent crimes every single week, we just dont hear about it anymore.
It's extra silly as it's not like any of those features makes the knife a better weapon or more dangerous.
These people are so out of touch if they think any of this is going to change anything. Carrying a long knife is already banned and stabbing people is also illegal, do they think people who are going around committing violent acts cares about these laws?
Knives don't kill people, PEOPLE kill people.
30 years of collection ans 90% of my collection has to been thrown away
I have a vintage "I cut my way" out door sheath knife, and a couple of AK47 bayonets that I bought some years ago. They are all kept behind glass as antique historical items. Along with an American Vietnam helmet and a German ww2 helmet. There are also many glass, pottery and wooden objects that we have collected over the years. I'm starting to get a bit concerned that if the authorities did visit my home they could arbitrarily assume I was a racist knife welding terrorist. We collect all manner of antique/vintage items of interest to us. I used to run a pub and I ran the kitchen. I have quite a few kitchen knives that were very expensive. These are more lethal than all the novelty knives you can/could buy online. What's to stop a kid or a person with bad intent from taking a knife from the kitchen or going to Asda and buying a 10 inch chefs knife and going on to commit a crime? I've got a shed load of tools. I keep a tool box in the boot of my car. A wheel brace, a torque wrench and a hammer plus a socket set and spanners. Does this mean I am equipped to go for out and commit a crime? I also carry a small trolley jack, which I've used on a few occasions to change wheels on my own and my daughter's cars. If I hit someone with a trolley jack it's going to hurt. Does that mean trolley jacks could be considered as a weapon? For fucks sake.
Yes, trolley jacks (and any other object) can be classified as a weapon if the user intends to use them to harm/threaten another person.
Spot on with the kitchen knives. I always wanted a set of high quality Japanese chefs knives, so some years ago, I bought a set. they cost me a lot, but are what I always wanted. I taught myself how to sharpen them properly, and when I do you can shave with them, and they are a wonderful tool to have in my kitchen. but in the wrong hands, they are a lethal weapon. but, they're perfectly legal to own like so many people on here are saying. so banning knives is not the answer, its making those that use them in crimes pay the price for what they've done.
Knives don't kill anyone, people kill people.
It frustrates me that there will be so many civil servants of various kinds, that we are paying, obsessing over whether a knife has particular serrations or jimping or whatever instead of just prosecuting criminals. The criminalisation of objects that are cosmetically slightly different to similar, but legal objects is just madness. EDIT; Forgot to say that this was a very useful summary of the law changes - thank you 🙏
Thank you!
These laws are silly....
What about "ignorance is no excuse". Yes it fucking is....
Sad for us collectors....As we know, it will do nothing to stop the criminals... Do I hand my Grandfather's old machete over to?... it's got ridiculous,criminals will be laughing.
BTW great upload, I really appreciate your channel.
All the best.❤
Thank you for keeping us all informed 👍 very sad times for all collectors . Soon will be illegal to carry a pen at this rate 😢
And about time! (Apparently they are mightier than swords).
As long as the pen is 3" or less you're good.
You could write a naughty word with it bigot.
Oh, I don't know...those pens with serrated edges are almost as bad as those with two holes in the , err, plastic 😱🤣🤣
It's about control. That's all.
Well it could be to prevent British people from being able to protect themselves and their loved one 🤔
No, it isn't. Quite the opposite. It is lack of control.
The people in charge are lack of control to do something effective. They do not know how to stop the knife crimes.
In lack of an obvious solution, they do an obvious thing.
They tighten the law.
Useful or not. To prevent these kind of laws,
make a better solution a common belief.
Most people fail on that, too.
It's the same knee jerk BS that saw handguns banned from the mainland
@@MrSuperJensenthat too.
You said it in a nutshell.
I feel like Lloyd Bridges in Airplane!... I sure picked the wrong week to start making big knives at home...
Or the right week...
😂😁🤘
😂
Or buy them from Nepal..
Here we go, whats next, lets ban the pen because they failed an exam..
the pen is mightier than a zombie knife
@@user-cr3ti1vj6f indeed!
Ban speech that hurts the government's feelings
Nearly 100% of people in the UK own a knife of some description, that is more than capable of doing damage if one so desired.
Knives arent the problem, people are, and the people harming others don't care what is and isn't legal, or even ultimately what the knife looks like
Nobody needs a 100.000 bucks gas guzzlers racing down the back roads, but nobody wants to ban them. Nobody needs 3 ton SUVs, running over kids. But nobody is banning them. But knifes nobody misused ever? Yeah, they need to be banned…. Regards from Germany, where they think about more knife bans, too 👎
I think we should all ask our Police service, if they have done an impact study so after the ban date we can measure the success of this ban.
They wouldnt do that, as they already know it wont make a difference. its all about getting control over you. here in Australia, we havent gone down that rabbit hole so far, and I hope we dont.
There's a common denominator in knife attacks and I think we all know what that is
Knives!
Drugs!
Drugs and boats
Bans always work since criminals so diligently obey the law.
Breaking news: government bans the use of all 🙌🏻 hands in public !
One hand per person is enough, only crazies need multiple hands!!!
😂
@@OldNavajoTricks 🤣
They will ban hammers next, then they'll ask why we aren't building any new homes...
the people making these laws haven’t done a day of manual labour in their lives. there are all kinds of thorn trees that make navigating dense wood or brush very dangerous. i guess ill just cut corners when trying to make public walkways safer, it seems loke thats what they want me to do.
So....if the police were to 'raid' my garden shed I would be done because of machetes and billhooks? But not for axes and bradawls?
Crazy.
Ban pens!
Bikes in London getting
Nicked... Government- "let's ban cordless angle grinders".
this seems like a law that would justified by arresting criminals but would actually arrest normal non violent nor criminal people.
The criminal justice industry needs lots of criminals to keep itself going
@@frakismaximus3052 maybe so but they have plenty of criminals on the streets already it seems to me that the government favours some groups over other groups
Can we have a petition to stop this law please.
We in Canada call those silly knives “mall ninja knives” the UK law will keep Kukiries and Parangs legal. They can not stop that.
Take my “Rambo” knife from me try! Knife was made before the move and was in The Bush Wars in Africa. This knife has legs! And as a knife user…that old Bauchop is way more useful than your knife is. I would hate my finger burn chalking up on the blade with your knife. In a court of law I would use your style of knife to be useless and unnecessary. Side note. My bush knife is illegal. A 3.5” flip blade. Years in the bush in many countries and my love is a small blade flipper. No one needs really serrations or funny additions to there knife. I have processed elephants, hippos and Cape Buffalo with just a 3.5” flip knife truth if I had serrations it would have been a harder job. Next you will argue (not with that knife…that’s a zombie knife) how do you baton wood? Simple answer. Never needed to. I do not live in a city and buy wood. There is so much dead fall and dead twigs on the trees you can make a fire. Large wood is easy to break or just burn the full length till you can break it and burn again. I feel so sad for UK. You lost so much skills.
UK law is funny. I collect Kukris, but I specifically collect "villager" kukris, not military ones. The fact that mine were forged as tools and not as weapons, makes a significant difference under UK law. Particularly with oversized kukris.
The two which almost fell foul of the sword with a curved blade laws a while back, are Georgian era, so they are genuine antiques, and they're culturally important because of the fact they were a central part of Nepalese animist religions, most of which are now forgotten. So I have 3 possibilities for exemptions in the future. But I fear it will get ever more stringent with regards to knife laws.
They have no comprehension of manual labour, even as a hobby. So they dream up ridiculous catch all's, that end up making life a nuisance for law abiding owners, while doing nothing about the scourge of kitchen knife stabbings.
We have a weird situation where my shotguns are currently less restrictive than my knives. Carrying a shotgun in public is genuinely easier in law than a knife is, you could even be carrying both and get charged for the knife while being within your rights to carry the shotgun. Laws are written by idiots
Because it's too difficult to have a society where people aren't all stabby, like say Britain in the 1950s.
Can't tell if this is sarcastic or not. Knife crime in the 50s and 60s was off the charts compared to now.
@@TheSpoovy that's 100% untrue. Look up the stats yourself.
I’m from the UK. Just got back from a trip to Bulgaria. They don’t seem to have these ridiculous laws and regulations which are purely just parliamentary stunts to make it look like the government actually work and give a fuck.
Walking down the streets of Bulgaria you’d see shops with all manner of items. Toy shops specifically, full of toys and games but also BB guns and “cool looking” knives. Other shops were selling “war” axes, daggers, machetes and the like. These weren’t hidden in the back like specialty items. They were actually right at the front. Not even behind a window. Essentially out on the street.
You know what they didn’t seem to have. You guessed it, KNIFE CRIME. Among many other things. I didn’t see drug related crime (excluding maybe the sale of weed) or homelessness or disenfranchised youth and minorities slaying each other over gang disputes.
From our perspective this is meant to be a poorer / less developed nation but in fact life seems 10x better because the government knows their place.
When they realise that this won't do shit then they're gonna change the way they report on it.
Y'all need to take back your country ASAP or else I don't even want to think about where the formerly "Great" Britain is gonna end.. Fkn hell...
End..oh, that ship has sailed. Given that 'Britain' had been about for, oh, a while, it baffles how this country had been reduced to nothing in such a short space of time. Can't pinpoint when things went into freefall...but if I could afford to emigrate I would (time for a reversal, dinghy full of Brits heading to France..turnabout's fair play)
@@sylviapage2159 Hey, I live in Sweden and I'm literally thinking the same thing! It's either that or a propah bloody religious/racewar..😂
@@sylviapage2159 Also, I just don't care for my country anymore because it has utterly and completely betrayed me, but I still believe it can be saved or rather I know it can be!
But I don't have the money, agency or even the right connections to do so, but I come from a hard life, so I don't believe in just giving up, cause that shit don't get ya nowhere!
Cheers bruvva ☺️
@@MarkusMöttus-x7j oh,I'm confident the country could be turned around. No denying it would be an uphill battle. It just needs persons in positions willing to do something about it. Vote me on next time round...I'll get this 💩hole back on course
@@MarkusMöttus-x7j i won't directly post my feelings on that...as in the UK 'freedom of speech/expression' has apparently been eradicated, pretty much overnight (and getting banged up wouldn't be my first choice'. Know where you're coming from though (feel free to 🤣 at the UK if you...the rest of the 🌍 is)
Been stabbed three times people use whatever to stab people whatever the law says.
Needles and screwdrivers are particularly unsuspecting.
I hope Crocodile Dundee gets word of this in Australia.
Another kick in the teeth for *England & Wales*.
This does not extend to Scotland.
*As a distinguished gentleman of impeccable foresight, one must express a profound concern that this legislation, in its regrettable shortsightedness, will render myself-and indeed, the entire British populace-woefully impotent in the face of the inexorable zombie apocalypse that looms on our horizon.*
Do they seriously think that a criminal is considered about the type of knife they use? Most of them use kitchen knives anyway. Did the 1997 firearms amendment act stop shootings? No. Granted we’ve had nothing like that in schools but we have had issues with firearms either way.
All this new law does is punish civilians by taking away there work tools, collections and most of all it makes the public utterly defenceless.
I'd urge anyone surrendering or amnestying blades to paint them bright pink or otherwise deface them by painting "I was a collectable that sat in a case for X ammount of years" or writing statistics of kitchen blades being used in more than 90% of crime so as the police can't use them in the inevitable propaganda photos.
So you could own a broad sword, but you can't own a pronged carving knife?
Too bad. The knive laws in general are a bit weird, but it looks like England is always a big step ahead when it comes to knive restrictions. Can't you sell your beautiful collectors knives to the mainland? I am sure here in the EU are many people who share the love for well made knives and would be happy to buy them second hand.
This law is so amazing because now a criminal would definitely be concerned about getting a legal knife . Definitely going to lower knife crime rates and not just another law which will turn regular people who need them for garden work into criminals!
I'd say let the weirdos have their pewter/pot metal "fantasy knives" vs forcing them to a get usable alloy.
NO knives in public on the streets. At work or on the farm OK. But walking around town, No!
The problem is the new legislation does not account for that.
Thanks, diversity!
Absolutely ridiculous, the only thing this will do is take knives away from law abiding people
Watching Western Europe fall to fascism is weird.
History repeating itself😞💯
Originally, the zombie knife thing was deliberately brightly coloured blades made to be very difficult to conceal.
Ridiculous.
In England the commoners used to be prohibited swords. I wonder why?
Mine are in a bag ready to be handed in,said on the form if you want compensation you have to sign to say you are the owner of the knives on September 1st,and if you want to to apply for a consideration of higher payment than £10 then they want proof of receipt etc and a photo,gutted this has happened,id even purchased a security cabinet anchored to the wall iif there had been a option,but no! Spoil it for the collectors! but having already had a visit from the police last year worried my collection could fall into the hands of criminals if i got broke into then ive got no choice,glad i still get to keep my Pohl Force Last Blood 🗡️
This would include every Kris/Keris knife from Southeast Asia! Some of these are priceless cultural artefacts!!!
I would imagine there is an exemption for antiques ect. Because I do not have such things I did not check that.
I wonder if that would cover things like WW1 sawback bayonets? @@thatgearguy
@tomr2982 would have to check regarding items of historical value.
@@donaldcarr8766Well, they're trying to erase and change our history so I doubt they'll care too much. They'll probably do as the Swedes did and melt historical artifacts down for scrap the way things are going.
@tomr2982 unfortunately the way our country is I'm not sure it would based on the world war trench knife (the one with the knuckleduster handle) even if they are antique I think they are still fully illegal
Murder, attempted murder etc. etc. is already illegal... but isn't a deterrent to some people... Knife control, like gun control, doesn't work and just criminalises normal people.
When will politicians legislate laws making them shave their heads? 😂😂😂
I didn’t realize how strict the knife laws are in the UK. It seems so often that the laws only infringe on the law abiding citizens without actually impeding the criminals in any meaningful way. Yet politicians point to the laws they’ve passed as though they have accomplished something.
Luckily there is nothing that is going to be covered under the new ban in my collection, my machetes are all plain edged and all my knives are either made for practical use or military collectibles, so there are few serrations or holes in blades, other than one blade which has some serrations near the handle (sog seal pup elite) and a AK bayonet with a single hole for wire cutters, neither of which would be banned by the new law.
Ironically, many of the blades I have are designed as weapons, old ww2 bayonets, 19th century sabres and the like. While the junk covered by this ban is gonna take a very determined effort to cause significant injury to someone.
The whole ban is stupid, we need a gang violence initiative and immigration controls, not banning knives with features which are for display. Even if this won't affect me, I still find it so damn stupid. Do you know if there will be exemptions for antique knives, double sided jab saws, bread knives and other things?
If only carrying much smaller blades without a lawful purpose was also illegal. Oh hold on, it already is!
"zombie knife ban 2024" is one of the best ideas for a move title I've seen in a long while
No not really thats just the name it is branded with a knife is a knife
@@StraightOuttaUrbex say what you want im taking a zombie knife over a regular knife any day i was raised in a theater so im kinda a sucker for the dramatic element
@@apkidlafirm522 did i say anything about film use etc no i didn't the title of it was branded by the stupid media and the morons who are mental enough to think zombies are real its just a knife to me
Firstly, what is the problem with holes being in the blade??
Secondly, I have to surrender my knives at home whilst certain people can run around in public waving long bladed machete and are at worst ASKED by the police to hide them...
I mean forget about the fact most stabbings are carried out by kitchen knives
They need to bring back stop and search and concentrate on the demographic who are responsible for the bulk of the knife crime in the UK.
I am a chef. I cook for up to 600 people per meal. I cut vegetables with a 12-inch steak knife with a 3-inch wide blade.
Eff that bro thats what a victorinox tomato knife is for straight edges are only good for meat.
It’ll only be 55y/o ‘Derek’, that’s never done anything criminal in his life, that’ll be prosecuted with these laws.
Stop and search was working. I think intent is the problem not the shape of the blade. Someone carrying a knife in a place where there is no reason to have one is probably the problem
Why don't we just remove the point on these knifes I don't think I've ever used a point
I dont get your point?
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