DJ Dice 4life while k rool’s down smash is better, you are wrong about why. After a certain point of charging, the attack no longer gets stronger like you say. Also, you were correct about k rool killing earlier
I feel that this list is a bit inconsistent because it shouldn't take horizontal knockback only in question. Many Down Smashes send opponents vertically. Also, maybe you should use a better wording, because "Strongest" can mean many things. Base Knockback? Knockback Scaling? Raw Damage? Fully Charged Damage?
Look, it's evident that the guy making these videos doesn't understand how the game works. He doesn't even sweetspot G&W's d smash, and he does Mario's back hit of d smash (the weaker one). And of course you can't rank the 'power' of a move based purely on base horizontal knockback at 0% either. Especially since many down smashes launch vertically. There are many reasons why these types of videos this guy makes are pretty bad.
@@huntercarney5525 Well, yeah. What we do is we use a punching bag (Mii Brawler) that has the average knockback taken. Then, using data that the ENTIRE PRO COMMUNITY agrees on, which is the centre of final destination (Read: Omega stages), we find what the inital damage required is. Understand?
A few problems with the vid: 1. The test would've been better done at 100% damage since some Down smashes gain notable knockback growth 2. Some down smashes have special sweet-spots where they can deal their most knockback usually it will be the hit from behind (Ex: Pit, Ike, Bowser) In the video some characters hit the opponent with the weaker front hit-box attack skewing the results. 3. D-smashes are usually impractical for killing unless they are exceptional such as King K. Rool's. As a result I can clamor for: Who has the strongest Up Throw?!?!
People don't realize that the more knockback a move has, the earlier it kills, so this way of doing it is actually more useful than knowing kill percent
The best way to calculate this is separate the ones that launch you up and the ones that launch you sideways. Then ones you have the top 3 from both categories decide it by damage or knockback
@Jackson Gailes Not really He was quite high on these lists without revenge. #3 Down Smash #6 Front Smash #13 Neutral B #16 Final Smash #1 Back Throw All without revenge
@@byakko6 that's kinda the point of him, much more than any other heavy(which he isn't really that heavy to begin with) he trades incredible power and throws for a shit recovery and movement speed
@@ddraven3180 I know but some of the heavy characters are not that good on these rankings And incineroar is quite heavy. He is the 6th heaviest character out of 74 so that's pretty high imo But they could really buff his recovery a little
This is bot really a fair list, since only horizontal range is counted, and many send people vertically, or are spikes (Bayonetta) or semi-spikes (WFT, Jigglypuff), so those won't go far at all, despite maybe actually sending pretty far. Also, base knockback is not really that usefull, since it doesn't really say anything about how well it kills.
These kind of videos are kinda misleading cause now people are gonna think that mega mans and ridleys down smashes are terrible because they are so low on the list because their knockback is vertical. Its better to measure it by kill percent. No offense love your videos and watch them a lot just keep it in mind
Before Watching, It’s King K. Rool (looks at criteria) NVM! Edit: wait he got 2nd? Guess I’m too quick to jump to conclusions before watching the video from beginning to end.
I thought that it will show the attack that makes more damage, but it shows the order of which move do more knockback, the video should be called "Which down's move does more knockback"
Moves have knock back growth. Some moves do high knock back at low percents but then don't really get stronger as damage increases. Others look pathetic at 15% and savage at 90%.
The only reason I clicked on this video was because the thumbnail had greninja, I thought he had one of the strongest, why would you put him in the thumbnail is he is #54?!
You know you’d expect being squished by a giant high heel 👠 to be strong af but no bayonetta’s d smash is the third weakest 😑 Edit: I forgot it’s based on knock back I’m dumb
Please don't do strongest U-smashes at 0%. Just go to kill % directly since that is what truly matters
Don't ,he will continu at 0% , kill % Will be after
@@tthiagob5088 Yeah I Know
But that might take effort.
@@emilydioptase effort is what matters if you want to make a good and useful video
@@jmambrocio9694 there are many youtubers that does thid at smash 4 they usually go with knockback first then kill% so chill the fuck down
This way of calculating which attack is stronger isn't the best way imo, i would rather look for the kill %, but its probably more time consuming
Because god forbid one of these actually... *gasp* REQUIRES EFFORT!?
Right. I know for a fact Ridleys down smash would kill earlier than Zelda’s....
It's because some down smashes bury/stun opponents or send them up instead of sideways
Yann Konde while I was watching the video, I went to the comments about to right the same thing 😂
for me I think it is the best way because- I don’t know if it’s just me but I use down smashes to knock enemies away from me.
Who has the strongest projectile
Based on damage.
Obviously Little Mac.
Either Marth or Squirtle
Nah fam it's Chrom
You sure it's not Captain Falcon?
Runners up to the no 1 spot are DK, Incinineroar and Meta Knight
when the stars align:
falco's down smash on the list is #69 and he says c%*k during it
it is truly beautiful
Yes
King K. ROOL and Incineroar have same dsmash ?
No k rules kills lower and he charged incenaroars longer so krule better
DJ Dice 4life not with revenge
DJ Dice 4life they’re still the same attack position though.
Lyndis true but that would mean kirby can have shulk arts because custom
DJ Dice 4life while k rool’s down smash is better, you are wrong about why. After a certain point of charging, the attack no longer gets stronger like you say. Also, you were correct about k rool killing earlier
Fun fact: DK's dsmash has a tipper that does more knock back and more % iirc
tmuk
What does iirc mean?
Cade-O Potato If I remember correctly
*I only played this a few days during one summer and I liked Samus and Ganon* ✅🙂
Ok
You probably played smash four
This game was released on December, are you ok? Unless you mean Smash Wii U
He could be Australian. Their seasons are flipped around
@@tthiagob5088 I believe it's the southern hemisphere so I guess south Africa as well
Looking for thumbnail?
No prob, bob.
7:51
The Mii Brawler’s life is flashing before his eyes.
I feel that this list is a bit inconsistent because it shouldn't take horizontal knockback only in question. Many Down Smashes send opponents vertically.
Also, maybe you should use a better wording, because "Strongest" can mean many things. Base Knockback? Knockback Scaling? Raw Damage? Fully Charged Damage?
0:01 pause and read
@@jessymongrain3312 Still doesn't answer.
@@BingBangPoe it literally does answer
Look, it's evident that the guy making these videos doesn't understand how the game works. He doesn't even sweetspot G&W's d smash, and he does Mario's back hit of d smash (the weaker one).
And of course you can't rank the 'power' of a move based purely on base horizontal knockback at 0% either. Especially since many down smashes launch vertically. There are many reasons why these types of videos this guy makes are pretty bad.
@@pokeness686 Finally someone who understand. It is not like the videos made by Smash Science, who had a clear, well, science, behind it.
The strongest down smash of Mario, Luigi and Dr Mario reminds me a step of break dance.
Flare ?
Flair
Are you serious? ¿Flare? 😕
@@predatorarroyo5280 yes it is called the flare
Wow... that makes sense, those break dancers make great steps.
STOP DOING IT AT 0%!!! DO IT BY WHEN IT KILLS!!!
Spine Thrasher too unreliable. Will kill different characters at different percents and at different locations on the stage
@@huntercarney5525 Well, yeah. What we do is we use a punching bag (Mii Brawler) that has the average knockback taken. Then, using data that the ENTIRE PRO COMMUNITY agrees on, which is the centre of final destination (Read: Omega stages), we find what the inital damage required is.
Understand?
Hunter Carney Waht? Of course it’ll kill at different percents that’s the fucking point. You see which one kills earlier
No
if u wanted a video showing it at kill% than maybe u should go watch a different video?
*We all know King K Rool has an invincible down smash...*
armor
hyper armor
Not if it’s broken
@@PBLKGaming big fan
Weegee plays?
0:52 Wii fit sounds like Mario???
They have the same voive actor
0:41 Falco is number 69 and says his infamous down smash word
0:26 Wakanda forever
I lost my shit at this comment XD
Incenaroar is terrifying tbh
He’s literally little Mac on crack (with revenge) on stage
And has pretty decent of stage (minus recovery)
I like how vertical launch distance isn't even accounted for, so characters like Ridley and Bayo are near the beginning
A few problems with the vid:
1. The test would've been better done at 100% damage since some Down smashes gain notable knockback growth
2. Some down smashes have special sweet-spots where they can deal their most knockback usually it will be the hit from behind (Ex: Pit, Ike, Bowser) In the video some characters hit the opponent with the weaker front hit-box attack skewing the results.
3. D-smashes are usually impractical for killing unless they are exceptional such as King K. Rool's. As a result I can clamor for: Who has the strongest Up Throw?!?!
Bruh,if you pick Falco,down taunt and then immediately down smash you're gonna get something amazing.
Lord Jayseen yea that’s why he was number 69
6:22 *S I C K O M O D E*
I love how Greninga has his cut knives from the xyz series
Theyre called kunai
The title of this should be "Who's down smash has the most knockback at 0%." Knockback doesn't equal overall strength.
Inkling is copying Isabelle
1:25 Isabelle
2:00 Inkling
K. Rool's downsmash kills at about 50%, making it even a bit stronger than his angled f-smash!
*0:43** hands of my...*
I like how a Yoga Pose is more stronger than a giant foot appearing from thin air
This really helps me because I just got smash last Christmas
People don't realize that the more knockback a move has, the earlier it kills, so this way of doing it is actually more useful than knowing kill percent
BloodKills THANK YOU
Wait! that music at the beginning... from Alola league 😎😎😎
Its from the alola league yes
YES I DONT REMEBER IT BUT I REALLY LIKE IY
Good eye, or ear
(Duh)
* as long as you have played sm or usum
tip: don’t overuse emojis. It makes you look like an idiot. Don’t be an idiot.
2:18 Lucario begins base power at 65% not 70% which may affect his result here.
@Disney Discussion Duo that would be true for Brawl but the formula changed with each game (brawl 75% smash 4 70% ultimate 65%)
Falco may have a weak downsmash. But its also the *nicest* of them all.
Love the music, pokemon is my fav.
what is is called?
I like how mario breakdances with his down smash and bowsers down smash is pretty cool too
Next should be who has the strongest up smash
Jigglypuff
My boi will be top 10
The pikmin guy
@@ninjaman505 Olimar?
@@uhhhCheese thanks i forgot his name thanks
K. Rool at 2 T H I C C B O I for lyfe
I honestly never thought Pikachu would be 11 and Pichu would be 8 surprisingly doing better than charizard
Love the background music
Pokemon battle themes fit well with a lot of things
Byleth really out here laughing sippin some tea
The best way to calculate this is separate the ones that launch you up and the ones that launch you sideways. Then ones you have the top 3 from both categories decide it by damage or knockback
Thanks for playing that pokemon sun and moon elite4 song I love it
Incineroar has the strongest smash attacks try it with spirits Dimitri and two victinis.
The song is a mixture of the Elite Four and Legendary themes from Pokemon Sun and Moon
Loved the pokemon music 😍
I see Ridley was 74... And I instantly realised they don't know how to calculate the power of any attacks in smash ultimate.
Please do a video showing how acrobatic everybody's frontflips and backflips look during the single and double jumps!!
Seriously, slowing the game down in training and just watching the animations is really satisfying for some reason.
^ this
@@Arkonoid404 I did that and LOOOOOVE IT!! It's like playing Viewtiful Joe all over again!!
I would've thought that Bayonettas giant demon foot would be stronger.
YO DID HE JUST WALK UP SLOWLY, AND DOWN SMASHED?
He did, he really did though
You gotta love how Ness uses a Yoyo
I love it
Incineroar was always one of the top characters in these rankings
@Jackson Gailes
Not really
He was quite high on these lists without revenge.
#3 Down Smash
#6 Front Smash
#13 Neutral B
#16 Final Smash
#1 Back Throw
All without revenge
@@byakko6 that's kinda the point of him, much more than any other heavy(which he isn't really that heavy to begin with) he trades incredible power and throws for a shit recovery and movement speed
@@ddraven3180
I know but some of the heavy characters are not that good on these rankings
And incineroar is quite heavy. He is the 6th heaviest character out of 74 so that's pretty high imo
But they could really buff his recovery a little
@@byakko6 but that's the point he's powerful but easy to kill
Raijin6 actually pretty sure he had the earliest killing back throw only with revenge on another video
now we atleast know one difference between peach and daisy
Wait why did that last one from ejac... I mean incineroar do so much damage? And shouldnt incineroar have gotten 1st place with that last one?
Revenge buff.
2:14 MY BOI FALCON LOOKIN THICC
Great song choice
Well.
I was honestly expecting either Incineroar or King K. Rool to be number one.
You are right
THATS 2 MY MAINS THERE THWARTED BY GANONDORF >:(
It has been confirmed that there are no gameplay differences between Daisy and Peach other than their hurtboxes.
This is bot really a fair list, since only horizontal range is counted, and many send people vertically, or are spikes (Bayonetta) or semi-spikes (WFT, Jigglypuff), so those won't go far at all, despite maybe actually sending pretty far.
Also, base knockback is not really that usefull, since it doesn't really say anything about how well it kills.
WAIT I just realized this isn’t based on damage welp
The Mii Gunner canos the sabe thing like Ganon, right?
I think you should specify HORIZONTAL knockback, because some of these like Ridley and Mega Man are more focused on height.
Then there's special ones like Villager (bury), Zero Suit Samus (stun), and Bayonetta (meteor smash).
no Miis were harmed in the making of this video
You do knockback at zero percent mean NOTHING in terms of how strong a move is right
Every single time I click on these type of videos it always does it by length when you say by strength
These kind of videos are kinda misleading cause now people are gonna think that mega mans and ridleys down smashes are terrible because they are so low on the list because their knockback is vertical. Its better to measure it by kill percent. No offense love your videos and watch them a lot just keep it in mind
Before Watching, It’s King K. Rool (looks at criteria) NVM!
Edit: wait he got 2nd? Guess I’m too quick to jump to conclusions before watching the video from beginning to end.
How is pichu's stronger than picachu's?
I thought that it will show the attack that makes more damage, but it shows the order of which move do more knockback, the video should be called "Which down's move does more knockback"
Moves have knock back growth. Some moves do high knock back at low percents but then don't really get stronger as damage increases. Others look pathetic at 15% and savage at 90%.
Do one on who has the strongest Up Smash, but to measure, use height traveled
Before the vid began, I said squirtle was top 40.
I can't believe I got so lucky with that guess lmao
Lol I just watch these to see how my boy Mewtwo does
Same, but this list is not well done. He shouldve put more effort into it bc hitting someone with 0% and judging by that is useless
You should really count vertical knockback too
You has the stronger 9own 3mash k krool or 1ncin4r0ar?
I guess we'll find out he has the strongest down attack! 😄😁👍
this isn't a reliable way of measuring kill potential as base knockback and knockback growth is considered when a move kills
The only reason I clicked on this video was because the thumbnail had greninja, I thought he had one of the strongest, why would you put him in the thumbnail is he is #54?!
I clicked for the same lol
Just A Greninja Main In Smash Ultimate I see your a man of culture as well
I think this should be done using percentages instead. Otherwise great job!
Why you always doing it off knockback it should be off damage percent
Kill percent actually. Damage is mostly for specials
Why are we only counting horizontal distance.. when some are clearly going to be vertical? I get it would be harder to test.. but still
I like how the percentages got messed up after bayonetta
The title says “strongest” but your doing it based o n knock back?
Hero: imma bout end dis videos whole career
Listen to this video with only one headphone.... Oh my God that's scary
R.I.P. Bowser's spinning shell down smash
Can you make a video on running speeds?
Who has the better neutral special based on kill%
This isn't categorized by damage because it won't matter when your opponent is about to lose a stock
It would be better if it was based on damage 😕
I'm getting this for christmas
Correct me if I’m wrong, but I’m 99% sure this song is from Pokémon.
Yes it's the elite Four theme from sun and Moon
SuperGuide MKPT Thought so. I knew I recognized it from one of the main games.
Jigglypuff should be the highest. She friggen t-poses on you.
Love how falcos is #69. If you who know why falcos is special, you know
Lucario... Was that actual range that I just saw?
Are you playing duck hunt duo with zapper gun!?
They bought back ness's hitbox charge back from melee. Im happy
What was up with Incineroar at the end
You should do who has the strongest special attack based on DAMAGE
Ganondorf: Doriah!(im the best!)
999 aura Lucario: hold my aura
I'm w8ing on the Up-smash video
You know you’d expect being squished by a giant high heel 👠 to be strong af but no bayonetta’s d smash is the third weakest 😑
Edit: I forgot it’s based on knock back I’m dumb
Hey, what is the name of this song, I really like it.
it is pokemon i think but i dont know where
These seem to be a the E4 battle themes. :)
But I //think// its a SSBU remix of Alolas league