I'm so very new to Christianity. I just started reading the Bible. I've started with the book of Mark. I am so drawn to your channel and I really appreciate you and your channel. Thank you for helping me start a relationship with God.
God bless you! Well done for making the step. Always ask for wisdom understanding and faith before you read the bible. If I was you after reading mark id go John. And then Luke and then Matthew. Then read Acts and then read Paul’s epistles. After that I’d read Genesis Exodus Leviticus numbers and Deuteronomy. Keep praying and asking God for direction and answers for the things you don’t understand. Try and find a good Bible led church and make Christian friends. God bless you
My encouragement to you would be to try your best and read/ study the Bible as whole. Reason I say this is because every prophecy and event gives context to what we are experiencing today. Try to understand what is being described from what is being prescribed. I could suggest more but don't want to weigh you down. Be blessed.
I went the complete opposite. I had all of these same questions and more, especially regarding science and archeology and the more I study the Bible, the more I am completely convinced of God.
In fact, I find it harder to believe in evolution and big bang theory based on what I have been taught by science and physics. Something coming from nothing for no reason and turning into everything violates every scientific and mathematic principle I've ever learnt.🤷🏽♀️
@@Ballanesian.Cowboy You can be a genius on some topics and just plain stupid on different ones . Everybody is a Genius. But If You Judge a Fish by Its Ability to Climb a Tree, It Will Live Its Whole Life Believing that It is Stupid
@@Josue-di4id That’s why I referenced that he was a literary genius. I believe that he understood the Bible better than most would. Maybe if he was a nuclear physicist your analogy would work, but I don’t think that analogy applies to him in this case
She’s are taken them out of context. There is so much more to just 10 words in the Bible. She needs scholars to first talk to her on the secular aspect of the “book” then enlighten her on the beautiful pragmatic reason for it all. Lady some call it heaven, ever thought of a holly “different “ dimension. And so on, time to open up to the reality of one God, not an old dude with a beard. Please just close your eyes and feel Gods holly spirit. Call it what you want, these are ancient writings. There is only one God, whatever the minute details of it are. Surrender to the only force YHWH.
@brijenell0201 Allen asked my take on it. I'd like to take some time to watch it soon. It looks like Allen did a stellar job of responding to the arguments.
Melissa, I was going back and forth with this woman in the comment section of her videos last year. I was hoping either you or Allen would see one of her videos, and maybe try to help her. I thought about mentioning her to you two, but I stay out of peoples' business, so just hoped one of you would discover her.
i only listened to her argument on john 3:16 and after listening to her for less than 2 minutes (it's unbearable to listen to as it's full of bs), here are my thoughts.. she kept confusing herself, possibly to also confuse the viewers. i'm 100% sure she was never a christian, her reasoning, her arguments are not only far from the truth, but also twisted and full of malice. like i'm listening to the demon himself. she's totally clueless as to why jesus had to die, and that reason is "central to christian belief". totally unbelievable for an "ex-christian". maybe she got herself into a cult or something. but i'm sure she's lying that she was a christian. i would've believed her if she explained the verse in good faith and tell us why christians believe that way, and then criticize that belief. if she really was a christian why not tell us a christian pov? most probably because she knows NONE of it.. and what she did? she explained the verse in a very twisted, almost diabolical way. the look on her face and how her voice changed to a high pitch is very disturbing, like someone's been possessed or something. probably what happens to someone who goes too much to bIm/hummus rallies. one last thing, she kept blabbering on the last part about belief. how you could be saved by just having belief only. again, totally clueless. obviously driven by their Ieftist/w0ke/d3monic agenda. “Anyone who loves me will obey my teaching. My Father will love them, and we will come to them and make our home with them. Anyone who does not love me will not obey my teaching. These words you hear are not my own; they belong to the Father who sent me." (John 14:23-24) added: very disingenuous of her to claim to be an ex-christian to begin with. and this l3ftist/w0k3/d3monic uploader deleted all my comments in her video criticizing her so i'm posting this here instead! lmao
When you explained the application of Psalm 137:9, this came into my mind: Something DESCRIBED in the Bible, is NOT the same as something PRESCRIBED by the Bible. Thanks for your elaboration at that point, Allen!
Exactly! I try to explain the difference between the prescriptive things in the Bible and those that are just Descriptive. For some reason, though, people seem to get the two confused.
So slavery wasn't prescribed in the bible and given instructions as to how to do it properly? Marrying your rapist wasn't prescribed in the bible? Really? It's honestly appalling the things people have to come up with to keep believing in the god of the bible
@@Emanuel-hh4uu rape is a mistranslation from the Niv parallel passages from Exidus clarify that it is talking about consensual fornication. the Bible doesn't say a woman must marry her rapist
@@Emanuel-hh4uu No, the Hebrew Old Testament does not say to marry your rapist. In the chapter in question it references rape multiple time in a row by using the Hebrew word for "forced". Then it uses an entirely different word towards the end of the chapter where the NIV translation inexplicably decided to translate it as rape.... The NIV is not a very literal translation either. If you look at formal equivalent translations you will find that they treat the difference in Hebrew by using a difference in English....and then suddenly it no longer says rape. This situation is a translation and interpretation error that it taken advantage of by atheists.
This is a huge issue I keep hearing about... "deconstructing faith" it's one thing to ask honest questions to get to understand God it's another to ask loaded questions and try to nit pick God's word so you can do whatever you want in your own moral code.
We absolutely should be asking the loaded questions! Not only can God handle them, but he doesn't ask us to have a blind faith, or abandon critical thinking. He gave us our brains after all. I believe that if you pray, and sincerely seek God and the truth, He will ultimately lead you back to Himself.
A lot people saying that we don’t need to ask questions don’t realize how much others have manipulated the word and been abusive/misleading towards ppl that genuinely just wanted love God with their whole heart.
The same is true for me. And I didn't harden my heart. I prayed appox 7 years and asked for my interior confidence that christianity is the right path foe me. Finally, there was a big scilence from heaven. After that, I stopped blaming myself for not praying enough and not serious enough. Today, I am a relaxed and happy atheist. Honestly.
Thank you, Allen. I came upon her video a while ago and i went to my pastor and asked questions on the verses she "debunked." Very blessed to have her because she explained it the same way you did. I pray God will take the scales off her eyes. Amen.
I watched the Kristi Burke's video about a month ago and it made me question God because I was not understanding the meanings of the passages correctly, and this video really helped me to understand them better and I'm so grateful for this video. Thank you so much!
NEVER second guess God Almighty…the Devil is so cunning this is his specialty…REMEMBER we will ALL go through trials heartbreak and trouble in this life we can’t even begin to comprehend a fraction of the way God thinks…God Bless you🙏🙏 even the great Bible scholar Dr. Chuck Missler would often say on certain passages…..”what did God mean.? he would say I have no idea what God meant..know thatAllen is telling you exactly what the passages mean🙏🙏
It's fine and good to question scripture you don't understand, but put in the research, and you will find the answers. It's not our place to judge God, but it's our place to study his word and to put in our best efforts to understand him better! Then, we will be better equipped to defend the faith! God bless you 🙏🏿
It's okay to doubt God. Moses, Gideon, Jonah, David, they all have doubts. Thomas & Peter had doubts. But instead of looking for answers at the right place (Holy Spirit, the Bible) Adam and Eve fell from the paradise, Judas Iscariot regretted and killed himself. After all, it's pride before the fall. So many deconstruction videos stem from this.
i only listened to her argument on john 3:16 and after listening to her for less than 2 minutes (it's unbearable to listen to as it's full of bs), here are my thoughts.. she kept confusing herself, possibly to also confuse the viewers. i'm 100% sure she was never a christian, her reasoning, her arguments are not only far from the truth, but also twisted and full of malice. like i'm listening to the demon himself. she's totally clueless as to why jesus had to die, and that reason is "central to christian belief". totally unbelievable for an "ex-christian". maybe she got herself into a cult or something. but i'm sure she's lying that she was a christian. i would've believed her if she explained the verse in good faith and tell us why christians believe that way, and then criticize that belief. if she really was a christian why not tell us a christian pov? most probably because she knows NONE of it.. and what she did? she explained the verse in a very twisted, almost diabolical way. the look on her face and how her voice changed to a high pitch is very disturbing, like someone's been possessed or something. probably what happens to someone who goes too much to bIm/hummus rallies. one last thing, she kept blabbering on the last part about belief. how you could be saved by just having belief only. again, totally clueless. obviously driven by their Ieftist/w0ke/d3monic agenda. “Anyone who loves me will obey my teaching. My Father will love them, and we will come to them and make our home with them. Anyone who does not love me will not obey my teaching. These words you hear are not my own; they belong to the Father who sent me." (John 14:23-24) added: that l3ftist/w0k3/d3monic uploader deleted all my comments in her video criticizing her so i'm posting this here instead! lmao
I think the first passage from Romans will dictate the rest. People want THEIR preferences to be above God's and He CLEARLY tells us He is sovereign AND that His ways are NOT our ways! He also asks us to test Him by being obedient and holding Him to His Word (which one has to know to find out our benefits). If one does this, they will learn that God IS LOVE and ALWAYS keeps His Word and although we do not understand everything (remember, The Bible says we see thru the glass darkly), we can FULLY trust Him! Let those with ears to hear, hear...🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾
So true. I think all growing Christians get to this principle at some point. It’s hard to swallow at first. I think we don’t even realize we have been putting God in our own constraints of what WE think is fair and right. Eventually you accept it and begin to trust that He is good and beyond your ability to judge and sometimes even understand. And honestly, when I came to this realization and accepted it, my gratitude towards Him for saving me became SO much greater. Off the charts grateful!
We cannot even begin to understand God unless we believe, love and worship Him with all our heart, mind, soul and strength. The fear of God is the beginning of wisdom. Seek first His kingdom a His righteousness and all these things will be added to you.
If you lose your faith through biblical study, then that means you actually read the bible. If you dont lose your faith through biblical study, then you had someone read it to you.
People could read but still not understand context or phrases in scripture that involves deeper dives. Some people don't understand what they've read and choose to leave.
@@kraftyval2162 sounds like a great plan…..an all intelligent god to write a book that is to difficult for some to understand only to have it interpreted by another human full of sin.
I heard a priest say to ask the Holy Spirit to help you read the Bible. He was really good at understanding it, but he was actually speaking what the Holy Spirit told him to. I did, and the Spirit also led me out of the RCC. Most of the priests there said normal people can't really understand the Bible, they need a priest to interpret it. I became a much better Christian after leaving the RCC. God wants a heart that loves Him because He does save and forgive. I found at least one passage that made me say the hell with this, this is as bad as the old liars in the RCC. But I also kept the door open to learning what it really might mean. It was Solomon saying it was difficult to find an honest man, but he'd never found an honest woman. To me that is encouraging men to hate women. Finally, since I kept my mind open, I decided that Solomon was NOT a man after God's heart, and he gathered women who believed in false gods, and followed their ways. So God never gave him a good woman.
@@keepingitreal7135 It's not that simple. The bible was inspired by God himself. God is incomprehensible to us. His mind and being are far above us. We cannot comprehend him, which is why most of us cannot understand the bible, even some believers cannot understand it. To understand the bible, you must open yourself up to God and pray and ask for wisdom and understanding.
This morning the Lord gave me a message to remind myself (and Sister Kristi): Trust in the Lord with all thine heart, and lean not unto thine own understanding. In all thy ways acknowledge Him, and He will direct thy paths. Proverbs 3:5-6
How am I supposed to not lead into my own understanding when I'm trying to understand these difficult passages about the Bible? Like, take for example, when God wanted the Israelites to slaughter the infants of the Amalekites, those babies were innocent. Why didn't God have mercy on those infants?
What I've learned over the years is that people who lose their faith probably never knew a living God in the first place. I find a lot of people who lose their faith come from Christian families and never got to know God in their own relationship with him.
I have tried for years to know God and to no avail. If he doesn’t wanna be there for me, then I am not going to be there for him. I would rather go to hell then be with someone who doesn’t even want to show up.
I’m sorry you feel alone or abandoned. We do need to remember that cannot show up because he is already everywhere (omnipresent). God is in every part of nature (such as eclipses, insect life cycles, the seasons, the laws of physics). God has been there through every part of human history. God then gave us his word which is how he speaks to us as well as through learned men who have been able to learn more in depth things about the Bible in order to teach the rest of us.
@ChrisHayworth100 , you appear to be engaging in a derivation of the “No true Scotsman “ fallacy, known as the ‘No true Christian “ fallacy. Lost your faith, well you never were a Christian to begin with. Because true Christians don’t lose faith.
If those people were truly saved, sure God will return them back to the faith, but I think that we shouldn't judge anyone, but put them in our prays, most believers pass hard times , we had already examples from the bible,
But we aren't talking about not getting candy at the end, we're talking about suffering an eternity of punishment. God hadn't given us the choice. He punishes those he molded for his purpose of bringing about his own glory - his patience there is not to allow those people to choose him eventually- it clearly says it's to show his glory. Stop adding in your own justifications and just read the text. I grew up "harmonizing scripture " which is just a fancy way of not admitting the contradictions that exist all throughout the Bible.
Very good! And much agreed! I would like to see how this guy explains away evolution? I believe most protestants are anti-evolution (although I am not positive?)? If he is one of those, I would like to hear how he explains away evolution. That's when his ability to reason would lose all credibility with me!
@@scholarlyanalyst7700 Evolution has nothing to do with this, the issues covered here are spiritual not physical, scientific, earthly. A real god would, by definition "be greater than" any human ideas or theories. That is one way the one God separated himself from the myriad manmade so-called gods (and religions) from the beginning. Christianity is of course based on Judaism and Jesus is Jewish. Starting with these determines right or wrong ways of understanding the whole bible, which the woman in the original video seems to be ignorant of.
@TheJohnsonCrew The woman in the original vid and you also, seem to not understand that all of the issues mentioned have to be "interpreted" as to their meaning in the large context of God's self-definition in the OT-- seen through the history of interactions with the Jewish people over centuries. ? You say: choice, punishes, molded, allowed, given... us... Who is "us"? Do you understand that literally *all humanity* every living person, past, ancient, prehistoric, neanderthal, savages, tribes, peoples, nations-- in any and every place and time-- violate/s/ed-- their knowledge and connection to God by being separated from him through sin? This gives the a priori context for everything taught in the scripture, and that Jesus said and did. God sees and knows everything, so the default position is that everybody dies, separated from him after death. And death itself is a disastrous event/condition caused by our sin and disconnect from God in the firstplace. But the bible point is: that God being merciful did not and does not allow this to happen-- so he intervened to alter that default to turn into life, resurrection and good relationship to him. All these supposed problems of contradiction or disharmonizing, and this woman's issues dissolve when you get the whole perspective. None of these things are "about us" what we think, morally feel or intellectually wrestle with... the Bible is about the salvation of mankind from what we condemn/ed "ourselves" to.
The teacher explanation is such a straw man way to look at it. The teacher would need to have created the kids, given them all the rules, chosen some to give candy to, and some to flay their flesh for eternity. Other than that, it was a good argument.
I tried to help her understand things more accurately, but she slammed the door on me each time. It finally dawned on me she didn't want to know the truth in these things. She was ticked and on the attack. She's mad at and hates Yahweh. I think she may be hiding her real reasons for this. Something happened, somebody died, or she didn't get something she wanted.
Proverbs 2:12-14, "Wisdom will save you from the ways of wicked men, from men whose words are perverse, who have left the straight paths to walk in dark ways, who delight in doing wrong and rejoice in the perverseness of evil."
Somebody, tell Kristi to check this video! Praying for her to restore her faith in the Mighty King, Jesus! Kristi, if you read this, please know that we LOVE you and try to open mind and study God's Word very carefully. God bless!
Poor Girl. She has misunderstood the Bible and it seem like she had no one to explain it or help her understand it. I see that a lot more and more. Hopefully she will see Alan’s video and come to an understanding of what the Bible is actually saying in those verses. I will definitely be praying for her.
@@danielfortonforton223I will find it hard to pray for her but will do so in obedience to what Jesus said about praying for our enemies, but I will also be praying for the people she has influenced away from God with these videos she has put out into the world and the people she has any contact with. These were very immature ideas she has made for herself and yes, I agree, she has obviously never had good guidance in her understanding. God bless 😊✝️
He is translating an already translated book. You have to take it as it's written. You can't make up your own justification for what God word says. You can't pick and choose what scriptures are credible or not. If you claim this is the word of God, then you have to take the entire book as it's written rather, it's good or bad. He basically comes up with his own translation of an already translated book. He did not answer any questions.
@@pierregambrell9236 The common way among scholars is to have a hierarchy of the content of the Bible. At the top are direct quotes from Jesus in the gospels. Look up "rules of biblical exegesis" if you are interested. For example, the Bible says in the book of Ecclesiastes that we all go to the shadow world after death regardless of merit. However, in Matthew, Jesus himself talks about eternal punishment for the wicked. These things are not reconcilable. Matthew simply takes precedence. In a wildly inconsistent collection of texts you need rules to make sense. There are still contradictions at the same level. Was Salome at the grave of Jesus? She was but also she was not.
And it's very obvious it's man made. Just some guy projecting his cultures to someone else and who doesn't comply is sinful. Anyone could write these words, how do they know these writers wrote the word of God? How is casual sex sinful? Does it hurt anyone? No. It's just meant to be a form of control over the Christians. And this thing about "true god" is nonsense, an Islamic person will believe in their God as much as Christians. And they will believe in it wholeheartedly just like Christians
@@timwest7467 Like saying adultery justify murder isn't bad enough. Christians are always saying they're "pro-life" but thinks the ones who commit adultery deserve to die. Everyone has a chance to live and to redeem themselves, taking the life away from them is way more evil than an adultery. You can recover from adultery, but you can't from death
I have a cousin who once called me in a panic asking, "How do I know if God chose me or not?!" I asked him, "Did you choose Him back?" "Yes." "Then you know He chose you." This short conversation conquered my cousin's panic. Praise God! God extends the invitation. It is up to us to receive it by faith or not.
@@dakotanorth1640 It's like seeing a girl that you like, and imagining that you asked her out on a date, and imagined that she accepted your request, then imagining that happened, that you are now in a full relationship, and you both love each other. If anyone asks, you can't introduce her, as it is only a relationship in ones own mind.
Gods grace is available to all people. Don’t fall for Calvinism you guys. There are many biblical theologians who refute Calvinism and they show you with scripture.
@@jen4um I would suggest that one doesn't fall for any of the religions until one has good evidence for a god. If one has good evidence that a god exists, then determine which god, as there are hundreds at a minimum. If one can determine that the god is an Abrahamic god, see which religion it supports, Then specifically ask this god which denomination has it correct, they can't all be correct. If you get this far and find a god supports a Christian denomination, I think gullibility is in your character. Well done you.
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@@thebeatagp I'm going to take all day to pick this video apart, point by point, since I don't have the money or time to make a channel. I'll pause typing as I watch your video. Go ahead and ignore this since I don't have an audience 🙄 1.) God is under no moral obligation to extend salvation to anyone. Um, yes, actually. He is. He IS under moral obligation and compunction, to CONSIDER others. To CONSIDER their suffering. To CONSIDER the disproportionality of literally his entire teliology. To suggest otherwise is both without a solid premise, and without moral code, whatsoever, demonstrating the depravity this religion lends. 2.)
Pastor Allen, this was an excellent video you put together. I am sooo impressed by how you put your videos together with all the different Bible verses to answer these difficult questions. It’s amazing what the Holy Spirit can do through us. Thank you for all you do sir! God bless you!
I was having a conversation to a religious friend of mine ,he claimed everything in the bible was true ,I said what if you contracted leprosy would you use the bible cure of killing one bird and burning it and sprinkle the ashes onto another bird and let it fly away or seek modern medical advice? Awkward silence.
@@stevolanddownunder3549 Wtf are you talking about? You can't just switch covenants to suit .If you believe the entire bible to be true ,that includes BOTH TESTAMENTS !!!
Well, just because your friend said that everything in the Bible was true does not mean that everything will apply and happen during modern times. Jesus raised people from the dead back then, but that doesn't mean that because those miracles actually happened, that everyone who is full of faith and/or has a relationship with Jesus will have their family member or loved one raised from the dead.
@@keturahjackson6762- yeah a lot of stuff that happened in biblical times doesn’t seem to happen anymore. That’s why I’m not sure why some Christians want me to magically believe God is going to do this or that cause he doesn’t
I'm not going to lie. I have struggled with some of those and other obscure scriptures. I don't have to understand everything. I just need to trust God and know His Word is authority. The Holy Spirit reveals this to me ❤
@@xXEGPXx uh, no. It's realization that we don't know everything. Truth is we never have all the answers to every question. Whether you believe in nothing accounting for everything or God accounting for it, you still believe one or the other without knowing all the answers.
"Set a timer on my phone and disbelieve for one minute?" No ma'am my salvation means too much to me. Jesus didn't pay the ultimate price for me to switch it on and off.
I was born again in Feb of 2022. I remember the day I went from unbelief to belief. Even if I did set a 1 minute timer to pretend I didn't believe, I'd still believe and Jesus knows that. Signed, sealed, delivered. I'm His.
@@GerardShah do you truly want to know? At the risk of me sharing and you not receiving, I'll explain it to you. Jesus was fully man and fully God. So as a man He felt sadness and pain and hunger and thirst. He loved His life and His family and friends. When He knew His time was short. He wept and sweated blood... He was devastated to have to go through this criminal's punishment. But He did so willingly. The scriptures say He was punched and kicked and whipped. The skin of His back was like tattered rags. The whip was made of sharp bone, glass shards, metal balls, and leather. He was beaten all night to the point that He was unrecognizable. He was nailed to the cross, piercing a major vein in the middle of the hand and feet causing nerve damage and agonizing pain. His position on the cross was in a way that His lungs was locked in the inhale position. To exhale, He had to lift Himself up by the nails in His hands....rubbing His open back on a splinter ridden cross. His heart busted within His body. And before He died from this cardic episode, He said, "It is finished." Very odd. But He was saying, " Father, I took the punishment meant for Gerard's crimes against you...if he puts his trust in that, he is free to everlasting life." And He showed what that looked like by rising from the dead...proving also that He is God. You call it a weekend, but it more than than that. Father God can see your sin no more and you can live forever because Jesus, as you say, "sacrificed His weekend." To save your soul this is a reflection of the old sacrificial law... of innocent/perfect blood shed to cleanse people from sin. God's 2 natures, wrath and love was satisfied that day. Jesus said, "No greater love than man, lay His life down for His friends." If you are deconstructing Gerard or you never known Jesus. Put or return your trust in Jesus and turn away from all unrighteousness. Take care.
Nah, this man doesn't make any of these verses better He explains some concepts and ideas that help Christians, but he doesn't tackle the real problems at all
the real problem is fallible people not knowing God, not having the Holy Spirit that reveals His Word, and then trying to criticize His Word without even really studying it
Insane how a person can carefully explain to you why they don't believe, and all you have to offer is to accuse her of never believing and that she should just "trust in the lord". Do you all realize how alienating you are? Do you hear yourselves? How do you expect for anyone to hear you out when all you have is accusations?
He is not accusing her of anything it's a matter of truth . What is the truth ? If the truth is God exist which I believe he does then God himself says that you should follow his way not your own way and that is what we are sadly seeing in the world many wars many hateress many injustice because people don't follow God's way they follow their own way
@chrisgal8944 "did you wake yourself this morning" yes??? obviously??? I'm an adult I don't have my parents knocking at my door lmao? and the only people "raised from the dead" were done so in operating rooms via modern medicine, incredible work by doctors and nurses, and also extremely quickly.
"Yea, you're right. That's the beauty of it..." What a beautiful way to revisit the Good News! I needed to hear this again MOST! Great video; THANK YOU! ❤
Thank you so much Pastor Allen for reacting to this video! I watched this video months ago and just felt so sad, concerned, and upset watching it. And seeing the comments as well. I prayed because I didn't feel like I was knowledgeable enough to give a good response. But it disturbed me so much because her video helps to give a push and confirmation to other people in doubt and moving away from the Lord. Thank you for addressing what she said. Hopefully your video will show up around her video, so those same people who would check her video, will check yours too. It's a very self centered approach with which she read into the scriptures, seemingly basing her thoughts/ perspectives/perceptions as morally higher and more sensible than God's. God, who created everything, and allowed for everything to exist. We as humans deceive ourselves sometimes and become foolish in our perceived wisdom. I'm praying for her and her comment section.
Why did you not address "and do whatever you want with them" (the woman and children)? You really don't believe these justifications to these horrible Bible passages... Do you🤔
1 Corinthians 2:14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
He also says god doesn't want them to kill innocent babies in the beginning then glazes over the verse where god instructs them to "kill every living thing" (including innocent babies) in the cities near the promised land, this guy is a liar and excuse maker
Cos he can't! 😂 Or the other 'difficult' passages in the bible that are never mentioned in church or bible studies. There is no explaining them or justifying them. Direct instructions from god. He's pretty much doing word salad this whole video but sounding as if he is deep diving into it everything But he's missing out the worst bits or moving us onto other sections.
He also completely missed the whole first point! The fact that God makes people specifically to go to hell. HIs example with the candy makes no sense because all of the kids apparently didnt earn it, but that doesnt explain a person who is religious and "good" their whole life who still ends up in hell because thats how god designed them.
God hates esau (white peoples) Roman 9:13 kjv Obadiah 1:18kjv Isaiah 14:21 kjv Jeremiah 14:2 kjv Lamentation 4:10 Job 30:30 kjv The real Jew are black,Latino and Indian
@@domenikvalci7743 I personally believe the Bible states that the unsaved are annihilated (not consciously tormented, but destroyed) but still do many people believe in hell and some have claimed to have seen it.
@@Plague_Doctor_MD Why would God create humans, just so they get destroyed?? What was the purpose of their existence? See, that doesn’t make sense. I don’t believe in damnation. Every single soul will find their way back to God, it just takes more time for some than others.
@@domenikvalci7743 personally I don’t mind if it’s annihilationism or universalism. Just as long as my loved ones won’t be tortured forever. Do you think people burn in hell temporarily and then go to heaven to be with god?
Thank you Allen for talking about this, this woman's page is very dangerous and scary, because she didn't understand the Bible doesn't mean she should destroy others beliefs especially those starting their faith, rather you challenge that fact and try to proof and understand the passage. How far you can go to understand God determines how well you love him. How can you say God hates women and his people yet you've been living your Life normally as a hateful woman towards your God for a long time all because you didn't understand yet he hasn't struck you, that on its own is mercy and free weal.
I pray she stumbles upon this video and God uses it to soften her heart and draw her close to him. 🙏 Thank you pastor Allen for loving her enough to react to this video with truth! Keep up the great work I’m very thankful for this channel.
Crazy thing is he didn't just make us but we are parts of him. So going to hell is literally just disconnecting from the source... He uses the word "harden" in terms of suffering which could most likely mean it's not the end either
This is a very flawed way of looking at God and existence. God made you because he wanted fellowship with you. It’s your choice whether you accept his grace for your mistakes or not. God does not send you to hell, you send yourself there because you say no to HIS grace. These are the laws of existence, who are we to question them? We’re flawed in our understanding, we cannot possibly know why HE does what HE does. God shows you what is needed to be shown. A good thing to do is try praying, ask the LORD to help open your eyes to HIM, ask for HIM to help you see the truth and light. God will show you, you need to be willing to submit.
@@ThePugPrince What's flawed is you assuming the truth of reality. When I tell you guys to prove it you only run away like the little cowards you are. Or you make a logical fallacy. In that case you shouldn't be talking in the first place.
Brother Allen, you've addressed these matters extremely well. I pray for those that watch her videos so as they don't get led astray from our Lord God. I'm so grateful for your doing your service for the Lord! God is faithful.
@@lilymitman I pray you stop listening to youtubers that pick and choose what they like from the bible. Whether you like it or not God is your creator.
I didn’t fully understand the crucifixion until I read Leviticus. We as humans needed to see God sacrifice for us, it WAS an act of love that was SO needed for us humans to understand his love and understand our need for him.
Absolutely!!!!!! It helped understand the gist of “Salvation”. If Christ had not come we would still be doing all those works just to appear holy before God and it would still have been short.
@Finckelstein a perfect God would not sacrifice his precious child to make us see that he loves us... how does "sacrifice" equate to love? That's honestly evil IMO. When he told Abraham to kill his only son. Sacrifice him to prove he loved God and then he said "just kidding, never mind. I was just testing your faith" how is that and not considered evil? How is that love? It's disgusting.
Thank you for making this video. It was a prayer of mine that someone who was biblically sound would take the time to refute this woman’s bold yet incorrect position.
I’ve read the Bible and I do not find her position incorrect. Indeed, I can cite many more problematic passages involving genocide, slavery , incest, stoning to death, tribalism, etc, etc, etc
@@horridhenry9920I she defo wrong especially with all the point you said, if you study the bible you will relise everything happened with a good reason, until now some of are still in the same circle.
@@horridhenry9920I bet you don’t haunt the Muslim channels like you do the Christian ones. Go read the quran… that will give you something to feast your hate on.
“Have you ever met a non-believer and They told you that they want God?” Yes! It was me. I spent years during my faith struggle hoping God would reveal himself to me and he never did. People who listen to this channel and look up to this man, I’m not asking you to change your belief in God, that is your personal journey. But stop pretending like you know why people lose their faith or become an atheist. People have honest reasons for why they lose their faith, and pretending they don’t so you can ignore their experience is so disingenuous.
Hi brother i can understand you i was also looking for god and I aslo preyed to god that reveal yourself to me and he never did that in a way that i want but he did reveal himself in a way that is right to me that good in his eyes that very loving eye of my love he didn't reveal like we see in photos like a person but his love come upon me and i understand that he's my god than he showed hi miracle in my life that i was looking because spending 7 months with my love Jesus i now see how god would see things and my faith is growing all-day even though my family members saying that they would throw me out of family still i love my Jesus more then me and i truly not judging you aur explaining you why you like that it's just hurts me that someone there is also searching and unable to understand its upto you my bother think again that in which way that god try to reveal himself to you and possible that could be this comment why would i try to convince a person that i don't even know iam a busy person and why would i am replying to you in this hundreds of comment why specifically your comments god bless you brother
Same. I decided to call myself agnostic, because I never experienced a personal feeling of connectedness or assurance. However, I always found the moral standards and lectures very guiding for life in general. What made me seek faith again was death in our family. And when I wish my loved ones to be in a better place, I also have to believe in that place.
I think people need something in their lives to believe in somth. Like if you see something that will make you believe, they will believe. But some people just believe in things that they don't even see and that amaze. For me, I am a deist and I feel good in my own. I can't get along with Christians cus they are blind to thinking of their own. They believe blindly.
Rather than justify the apalling passages in the bible, he finds contradictory passages. This really shows how flawed and unreliable the bible is as a moral guide to anything.
Unless you understand the nature of God - total love and grace but also justice - it is not possible to understand the bible. If you cut god and his intentions out of the word, there is nothing any more. John 1 - HE is the word. Saying the bible isn't reliable for live just indicates that He wants you to invite Him to introduce himself to you - are you ready for that ? It will change your life, and this will be the best joice you'll ever make
@@CBechter, literally believing in anything else gives the same effect as Christainity, including other religions. They make you feel purposful, and right when you fully believe you are no matter the religion. That is why atheism is often compared to religion. I just choose to be agnostic on it all.
@@jeremycamacho8864In the end only the truth will prevail. It is our job to search for it. Other than that, you can examine verified miracles, if you are not willing to invite God into your life yet.
So according to that logic, where is the actual verse about raping a woman that isn't engaged? Why is the other one that apparently encompasses all rape specifically mentioning a situation where the woman is engaged and not just all women in general like you're trying to spin it. Can you explain this? (Probably not)
It's today's society that is brutal on women. My Mom is an excellent Mom. Even God himself would enjoy her company. And all my childhood I saw what the world has put her through. And it is because she is a champion role model for all women that the others who saw, changed and fixed their ways. Perspectives on how a verse looks from the outside. As this video has made it clear. "Can" look as though it's a monstrous dictatorship narcissism. I was her son. I know the correct and "helpful" perspectives. Disregarding helpful directives, simply because of not truly grasping how they help the world, is unhelpful for my Mom. I pray the Lord opens your eyes to see his goodness. My Mom wins this time. Because of God may she always win. Amen.
@@Ordinal_Yoda Was it Abraham that tried to whore his wife out when they almost arrested him? Was it also he that offered his two virgin daughters to be gang raped by the crowd? These things are objectively harsh for women to read.
I've been reading it and it really isnt😅 men have had it just as rough in the OT, and if the women are especially treated unfairly then it's a problem with man as a whole living in a fallen world
I used to be a very fervent and devoted believer and it was the study of the Bible that lead me out of the faith. Most of my life was spent listening to preachers but once I was ready for the next step, I started listening to biblical scholars. Unfortunately I learned too much and had no choice but to let go of the faith I held so dear.
Luke said: Jesus said "Thank You Father, that you give your Kingdom to those with the trusting hearts of little children, and keeping it from the intellectuals of this world".
I had a very similar experience. The more I read the more questions I asked and the less answers I got. Typical answer that you have to have faith. But biblical scholars who are mostly Christian by the way say the Bible is not Devine in origin and the facts don't hold water. And rightly she says that what is said in the Bible is contradictory so where is the truth.
“Text out of context is pretext not prooftext.” You are correct in emphasizing that a specific text must be consider within both immediate context AND context of the whole Bible. Here is wisdom: “Text out of context is pretext not prooftext.”
Yes many left the faith due to believing in their own understanding, not God's or had bad experiences with the religion in a whole. Some Christians don't show good fruits but those don't make God bad in anyway. Can't blame him for things humans do.
@@kraftyval2162 Several years ago I looked into the "exvangelical" movement to try to understand why people left their faith. I thought that it might be that they never were saved, but they all had solid salvation stories, so it wasn't that. But they did speak to their spiritual upbringing and the problem became readily apparent. Allen talked to this, but all these people had "weeds" for mentors and became spiritually stunted. None were brought up in the Word because no one around them had read the Bible, let alone understood it. They finally left in frustration, and like a kite with a broken string, they randomly floated to "The Current Thing" and embraced that.
@@kraftyval2162 Personally, I do not blame God for anything. I just do not think there is any such thing as "God". How can you blame a non-existing entity?
This man has no understanding of what the lady is talking about. A good and perfect all-powerful God will have no reason to use imperfect or immoral means to handle any situation..
Why should you believe a book written by sinful people? Let me try and explain here: "The Bible's 66 books - 39 in the Old Testament and 27 in the New Testament - are written by 40 different authors over a period of 1,500 years. These authors lived in different places and different times, with different cultures. They had many different occupations and lifestyles, but the focus of what they have written is the same - to reveal God's heart and will for mankind."
@karenallen5208 Actually, you're wrong. There are more than 66 books of the bible. 54 books were removed. Those missing books make up the Apocrypha. Now your reply still doesn't satisfy the question that was asked of you. " The authors" are still sinners. The authors are still mere men who write The bible bassed off of other translation and interpreted documents of people before them. The stories in the bible are stories handed down from generation to generation. No spirit, no god. Just people writing whatever the hell they want based on their own thoughts, beliefs, and traditions. Then, gullible people like you, go around believing this BS is true.
@@karenallen5208 see that's the problem with the bible "to reveal God to people", if that was so important, don't you think an all powerful being could have done something better to reveal themselves to everyone without a book(s)? Why base an entire eternal state of existence of billions of people based on whether they're convinced by the events of a book, entrusting that information on the very thing that messed the whole thing up from the very beginning is even more problematic?
@@Joei2049 The Bible is not the ONLY way God reveals himself to us. He sent the Holy Spirit to guide us. Read John 14:25-26. The Holy Spirit is like the wind -- when you repent to God and ask Jesus to be your Lord and savior, the Holy Spirit enters your life. He's like the wind, you can't see where He comes from or where He goes, but you will feel his presence. The Bible and the law were given to us for guidance. If we didn't know the law, we would not know if we're sinning against God. God created us for his companionship. He never forces Himself on anyone. He wants us to follow Him of our own free will. You can understand that if you thought your parents forced you to love them. They don't -- they want you to love them because they brought you into the world and first loved you. This is the truth about our loving God.
@@Joei2049 25 “I have told you this while I’m still with you. 26 However, the helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, will teach you everything. He will remind you of everything that I have ever told you.
I come from a Christian upbringing within a devout family. However, last year, I found myself on the brink of losing my faith. Yet, in a powerful intervention, God made it clear that I was not meant to stray. This encounter with God was unlike any other I've had, and I hope everyone gets to experience it because it feels like being born again. Jesus, I cherish you. Thank you for rescuing my soul. Amen.
Meaning it’s bullshit. See I’ve had an experience with God, or whatever created this reality we’re in. I prayed one night during a dark time and asked for a sign. I met a man the next day who pointed me to the Bible. I know God is real, but you will never be able to convince me that He is good. I’ll give Him respect, but He is not worthy of my love.
Salvation is what that is, maybe you never fully trusted in Christ until this experience! I always say head knowledge of the bible is good for our knowledge and understanding! But heart knowledge is what saves and keeps you preserved in Christ!
The thing you're failing to understand is that humans, by nature were a fallen race, so he'll was already the destination but the idea is that God sent us to earth in order to give us a chance to make our way back to righteousness/him
@@remingtonbeats335 Allen(and God according to the bible actually) literally contradicts himself there. First he says how God controls/manipulates you so there is no choice, then he says how we have the free-will to make a choice. Literally believing in anything else gives the same effect as Christainity, including other religions. They make you feel purposful, and right when you fully believe you are no matter the religion. That is why atheism is often compared to religion. I just choose to be agnostic on it all.
Authoritarianism, Vindictiveness, Jealousy, Impatience, Favoritism, Aggression, Inconsistency. While these traits might reflect the complex nature of divine behaviour in the theological context, they would be considered indicators of unhealthy behaviour in a human psychological analysis.
@@remingtonbeats335 Exodus 20: 20-21 20 “Anyone who beats their male or female slave with a rod must be punished if the slave dies as a direct result, 21 but they are not to be punished if the slave recovers after a day or two, since the slave is their property. Is this one of the morals you speak of? Healthy developed humans & many animals have empathy.
Allen, you miss-quote almost everything Ms. Burke says so you can spin your argument to suit your doctrinal narratives. You never explain her criticism directly, but you invent something else to rebut as though your listeners cannot perceive what you are doing. Your objective is to pacify the people who would listen to Ms Burke's concerns with the Christian narratives as written in the Holy Bible. You cannot wash away the words in scripture with creative word play. The simplest way to deal with the problems scriptures present is to acknowledge that they were written by MEN. God did not write any of them. End of story!
He reminds me of thos sci-fi buffs who cook up crazy justifications to explain away what are nothing more than silly screw-ups and inconsistencies by the writers.
Men WROTE DOWN the words but GOD is the author of the Bible. According to scripture the Word is God-breathed, (by God) It’s no different than someone wanting to write a book and hiring someone else to write the words down. And concerning “controversial scripture”, one example: There is an order in marriage, just like there’s an order at work, or in government. The husband is the head of the home because someone has to be. Doesn’t mean a woman can’t have a different opinion, but if a final decision has to be made, the husband would be responsible for the outcome, and he’d be more accountable for making a bad decision. A husband’s role is in many ways harder than the woman’s. If she submits, and he’s wrong, he gets the blame. And at work there are supervisors, office managers, etc…. There are CEO’s who make decisions and pass them down, But if he’s wrong, he will be responsible, not the guy who just got hired or the guy in the mailroom. So he usually has the sole responsibility for any bad decisions that hurt the company I’m a woman in a traditional marriage. My husband is very supportive of me, but when it comes to major decisions, he always takes my opinion into account, but when he makes the final decision, if he makes the wrong one, then he gets all the blame. But let me make it clear, no man better abuse his wife, because God says “Men, love your wives” Abuse is not love and God is not okay with domestic abuse, of spouses or children, and a woman should do what keeps her and her children safe. God is against divorce, but that doesn’t mean he wants a man to abuse his wife or children, and divorce is not the ultimate sin, as long as theres a valid reason, such as adultery of a partner, or ongoing abuse. Divorce causes a lot of pain, especially to children, but abusing a child or them watching their father abuse their mother and can’t do a thing about it, causes even more pain. Sometimes divorce is choosing between the lesser of two evils. He said he hates divorce because it hurts people, and often especially children, but he gave valid grounds, he said except in adultery, because then vows have been broken. BUT, VOWS are also broken if a man who promised to love his wife, at the altar, physically abuses her, he too has broken his wedding vows, even if he never committed adultery.
I kid you not a few weeks ago I was looking up what people say against the Bible and saw her video and some things she said really stumped me. Didn’t shake my faith I just wanted to find out how to get the answers I needed. Allen thank you so much my man! God bless you!
@@RaffieFaffie His very first point is a lie. He claims that god doesn't condone unaliving children, when he literally does that numerous times in the bible. He even does it himself numerous times. Allan Parr is just a run of the mill apologist. Dishonest to the bone.
@@RaffieFaffietbf I’ve only heard the second point because I watched it over on Professor Plinks channel but he goes on to say that the psalm in question didn’t suggest that god was okay with the killing of enemy babies when you’re wronged when he literally ordered the genocide of the Caananites alongside their children and, you guessed it, babies. there is no way he is incorrect about that as an apologist by accident: he lied.
The thing with rape is that women often times can‘t cry for help cause they are paralyzed by shock and fear. So it‘s incredibly naive to say it was consensual cause she didn’t cry for help.
They might also have a weapon like a knife or a gun to their throat or head. They might have a child sleeping in the next room. It’s very arrogant to assume someone asked for it just because they didn’t scream or fight.
You guys really think Kristi Burke doesn't know all of these things. You forget she was an evangelical Christian for over 20 years. She knows exactly what she is talking about.
Well... her words tell another story :) Not saying that to be mean, but as one of the comments said. Ahe was quite alone with her thoughts and from my point of view didn't really consider discussing those problems she ha with scripture with someone who actually had answers.
@@VespasianOfTheThird just because someone has answers, that does not mean those answers are true and factual. The bible is not factual, is it the claims.
@@piercelee9421 no, my logic and so many other peoples' logic would hold much more weight than his words. There just is no supernatural in this physical world as there "was" in the bible.
@@RayCamacho-m2e you said she knows what she is talking about because she was a Christian, I said if that is true someone who was a Christian for longer would have more value in his words. I was not trying to disprove atheism as a whole but your point you made as it is dumb.
Its scary how she's trying to convince people to not believe in God. She seems like a very intellegent, articulate woman and prayerfully she comes (back) to Christ.
Did she ever know Him to begin with? I truly believe if you sincerely believe you will NEVER give Jesus up…that doesn’t mean that we ALL don’t need repentance we can’t say I’m sorry and keep up our sins but to honestly try our BEST to live each day with Him in mind ….. and the love and yes fear of Him🙏🙏🙏
@@morgansouthworth2894 Voia Ta - BBSO SONG ROMANIA This is actually a poem. However the man of God who put this into song, he was tortured in the Romanian communist prison at the time God gave him the power to make this into a song. Voiata Ta meaning YOUR WILL
Brother what part of Christianity do you believe? There are over 33 thousand brands of Christianity not to mention Catholics. I believe in a Supreme God but not the one written by the Bible. Religion keeps women almost as slaves. That is the God I believe in. Sorry.
Man, it really hurt my heart to hear her saying those things and twisting scripture. Thank you for this video Pastor Parr. Praying for her and all of us as we navigate life with the help of Heavenly Father, our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, and Holy Spirit!! 🙏🏽❤️🙏🏽
Go to a 3rd world country where they basically have no laws and allow all the worst things imaginable and tell them about “God’s Mercy.” If God has so much mercy then why does he allow soooooo much suffering. Doesn’t make sense at all to me. If it doesn’t make sense to my human mind please tell me how that can make sense to an all knowing, all good, and all loving god?
What a disappointment, I actually took the time to watch this video because I heard that you had made some compelling counterpoints to Kristi Burke's video. Nothing you stated, and I mean NOTHING, debunks what she said, or justifies what those bible verses state. I was pretty sure I was in for a disappointment right off the bat when you attempted to justify Romans 9 verse, God is under no moral obligation to extend to us salvation!!?? I would argue that it is completely immoral to offer a creature you created eternal salvation without a clear path, or way to achieve that salvation, by testing them in so many different immoral ways, when again, they have no clear set of rules or guidelines to go by. If you say god has no obligation to be moral himself, they why is it said we are created in his image, or why does he want his creations to be moral if that attribute is not something he holds as a cherished attribute personally. Your analogy about the teacher and rewarding candy to the students was just god awful, no pun intended, first, they do have obligations to their students. A teacher is obligated to educating their students, or in a bigger sense, imparting them with knowledge that will help them navigate the world around them as an adult when they venture out on their own, no? So the mere fact of bribing them with a candy reward if they behave in the proper way, by the rules she's laid out, is already teaching them that morality is interchangeable with rules. Being kind to your neighbors, or helping the less fortunate, or not stealing things that don't belong to you should be considered selfless acts, that help others suffer less and enjoy life more, leading to a more prosperous enlightened and happy society. Going by your logic or your gods logic, those things are only done in order to get a prize at the end, you wrap it all up with a nice little bow and call it morality. It is a good analogy for Christianity as a whole, which uses personal satisfaction, one might even say greed, in order to get people to act in a manor, and live their life as the religion sees fit. That's not morality, let's not get it twisted, morality is a very personal thing, two people that live next door to each other, and are good friends, could have very different moral values. Basically the teacher is teaching her kids to only do something if there is something in it for them, and that is no way to send a child out into the world. There are many other flaws in just that analogy alone, but they, as the rest of your video is too much to get into, you are simply another Christian apologist, and a poor one at that, I have heard far more convincing and intelligent apologies or explanations of the Christian faith, than the drivel that you laid out, do you ever have nontheists on your channel to debate, or give counter points?? I doubt it, any of them with half a brain would your shred your nonsense to pieces. Good day sir.
Hello Sun, Just wanted to add a comment on your post. I want to start off with agreeing with you on some of your points when it comes to his analogies. Watching the video I was very confused and disagreed with certain points, but in my opinion making analogies between humans and God can be tricky due to how God and humans relationship work. So I won't really talk about the analogies because they were poorly made unless you want to. What caught my eye was when you said nothing debunks or justifies those bible verses. I won't go over all the points, but I thought third verse was pretty clearly debunked. The translation here was pretty bad, and even using the same translation from prior verses, we get 2 conflicting messages. One were we are told that adultery (and rape) is a sin punishable by death, and a couple verses later you can pay for your rape and get a wife? Looking at the context of the chapter and also looking at different translations, it is clear that the rape to get wife pipeline is definitely not what was intended here. Like I said earlier, I don't agree with everything that was said in this video, but I disagree with the notion that everything Kristi was right. If you want to go in more detail about the species we can, I just thought I'd add my two cents. Have a good day.
@@ashtonrene1524Wrong and you didn't pay attention to the verses... Adultery and rape is only punishable by death to a woman that is betrothed or married... It is not punishable by death to a woman who is NOT betrothed or married... This is why the Bible is clearly misogynistic in many of its laws... It's only a punishment of death when it violates a woman who has already entered into a contract with a man... If that woman is a virgin who HAS NOT BEEN PLEDGED to be married, then the rules are different... The man who rapes her doesn't get put to death... Instead he just only pay her father fifty shekels of silver... Essentially a fine and then he must take her as his wife for life... This is disgusting and immoral... And Parr willfully ignored that fact as he was reading the prior verses that are very clear.
@@Hieiman Hello Hiei, Yes the verse is talking about non-married /engaged women. I brought up the prior verses within the same translation more to show that this seems to be the outlier on God’s stance due to the translation. God takes rape seriously, as we see here. The NLT isn’t the only translation that says grape here; there are 11 other translations that use the same word. The problem with these translations is that all these versions fall under “thought for thought” or “paraphrasing“ instead of word for word translations (this information was obtained by the 56 translations available on Bible Hub). The issue with translating Hebrew to English is how many of their words have multiple meanings. The first half of the verse in question is: כִּֽי־יִמְצָ֣א אִ֗ישׁ נַעֲרָ֤ בְתוּלָה֙ אֲשֶׁ֣ר לֹא־אֹרָ֔שָׂה וּתְפָשָׂ֖הּ וְשָׁכַ֣ב עִמָּ֑הּ וְנִמְצָֽאוּ׃ Which can roughly translate to: “If a man comes upon a virgin who is not engaged and he seizes her and lies with her, and they are discovered,” The important part is the part “they are discovered.“. Adultery only gets discovered because the people involved do not report it themselves. Grape would have the victim report it hence in the earlier verse talking about consensual experiences (verse 23 “If a man is found lying with another man’s wife…”) they find out about it but when it comes grape there’s no reference to this. Another point for this is looking at the original law in Exodus (Deuteronomy, or “repetition”) when it comes to unwed adultery. Exodus 22:16: “If a man seduces a virgin for whom the bride-price has not been paid, and lies with her, he must make her his wife by payment of a bride-price.” With all these points, I believe it points to this being the original intent and not the mistranslation (why would seducing and grape have the same punishment when we saw the info from above?). Lastly, this point wasn’t brought up, but I think it makes the situation more clear. The woman isn't forced to marry him if she doesn’t want to (or her father if she is a minor). The following verse “If her father refuses to give her to him, he must still weigh out silver in accordance with the bride-price for virgins.“ The law was put in place to make sure that men couldn’t just sleep with whoever they wanted; if the woman wanted to marry him, he’d have to pay her and her family, and if she didn't, he’d still have to pay her a huge sum. All decisions for the man are stripped from him and given to the woman (or her family). I hope this made my original point clearer. Have a good day.
1 John 2:19 (ESV): 19 They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would have continued with us. But they went out, that it might become plain that they all are not of us.
I feel the same way brother 🙏🏿 Jesus is the reason for staying in the faith! Truly knowing his love, it's impossible to walk away from that! Head knowledge doesn't mean you know Jesus! It's knowing him in your heart that saves you! We've all had questions about some passages but my conclusion was to understand them, not to use them as a means to "allegedly," turn away from the faith! Whether we fully understand or not is irrelevant, because we must accept that God is sovereign, and he knows better then us! She doesn't understand or can't understand because she's exalted herself over God!
God hates esau (white peoples) Roman 9:13 kjv Obadiah 1:18kjv Isaiah 14:21 kjv Jeremiah 14:2 kjv Lamentation 4:10 Job 30:30 kjv The real Jew are black,Latino and Indian
it also says a lot when allan says "That's not what that verse means... HERE IS WHAT IT MEANS" so the bible is not clear for all to see WE NEED TO ALLAN TO TELL US WHAT IT MEANS ? right ? The guy who said STONING TO DEATH................. I SEE ABSOLUTELY NO PROBLEM WITH ANY OF THAT
I did that too. But I kept looking, searching, trying to find the truth. Don't worry, your renewed faith won't last for more than a couple years, at best. May I suggest reading the Bible, from cover-to-cover. If this really is the "divinely inspired words," of your God and your, "lord and savior," do you think, "Maybe. Just maybe," you should read the friggin' book!?
God bless you brother. I hope this is the situation that Christy finds herself in right now. She's still young her life is not over so she may still be in the mercy of God's hands. I just hope that she comes back before it's too late for her
Wow 😢 I am so emotional especially towards the end. Thank you brother Allen for doing this video. May God continue to use you in a mighty way to proclaim truth. I pray and I know light will surely overcome darkness 🙏
God asked for human sacrifices in the bible too. The main blood sacrifice was his on son Jesus. You cant call another religion/Gods/ humans evil without calling the Christian God evil to for human sacrifices. This is craziness.
The wages of sin is death, if you commit sin you are under the law. The death of Jesus was to pay that debt for all of mankind, once you accept Jesus you are NO LONGER under the law. It’s the new covenant, he already paid the life debt by sacrificing Himself. God sacrificed Himself so that we could live free of sin, because no persons, not one human being could ever live sin free, except for Jesus, that’s what we call grace. It wasn’t human sacrifice, because Jesus wasn’t just a human. He was with God in the beginning. He is the Living Word of God. So you are not exactly correct, and you are definitely cherry picking yourself.
@@Travis7x70 It is nonsense with a certain logical consistency between its elements. The worst outcome is that some Christians think they can do whatever given that their debt was prepaid. Some argue that repentance is required, but that does not fix it either. As a Christian you can sleep with another man's wife without danger to your eternal soul. It can always be fixed if you repent later.
@@markewing10 that isn’t even consistent with what I am saying. It’s more than someone took the penalty for you, not that you pinned it on someone else. You do require repentance to learn from the sin and try and grow to be more Christ like and sin less. But Ewing no it’s not like that at all. We aren’t blaming anyone else for our sin, we are not even trying to blame our sins on anyone else, we own up to our sin, admit our fault and grow from it. Jesus agrees to pay that sentence of death so that we may take the knowledge and become better people
So you are cherry picking the Bible. You never even addressed her actual argument. You just tossed it aside. 🤣 You just said you believe you are better than others regardless of your actions. If you consider god good because he saves a few people from eternal suffering then he is evil and you are evil for worshiping those ideas. Yes the teacher is wrong this is an unreachable goal. You are teaching kids that their best isn't good enough. Why would you care though in your logic you disguise hate as love. You have no morals if they are based around god.
Whether you think God is evil or not is irrelevant. The fact is that he exists and he has established a path for you to go to heaven. If you don't like it, too bad. Reality doesn't care.
@@theplasmacollider6431 Then prove it. Your entire ideology is based around faith. So where do you get off telling me I'm not being logical. I've based my world around the physical science we can prove. You don't understand what that even means.
@@theplasmacollider6431 No you don't. You might think you do but you can't justify a world built around faith and then also accept scientific theory without contradicting yourself. Your entire view on reality is fallacious.
@@theplasmacollider6431REALITY?!?! 😂😂😂😂 that’s actually laughable… you’re the one not living in reality if you believe there is even an ounce of proof of that tribal war god without trying to reference that fictional book of yours ..
I’ve watched her videos I’m surprised you found this babe lol. I’ll say I’m always keeping an eye on people who lose their faith and why. And for some of her arguments they are easily refutable. Glad to see this I’ll be interested to see where it goes!
32:05 And here I am going to ask you to stand down, Mr Parr, while I educate YOU. I tell you with all authority that you are WRONG about the R-word! The verb in the original Hebrew for "to take hold of" when used in conjunction with the verb "to lie with" and when talking about a person, ALWAYS means the forcible seizure of that person against their will. I suggest you go and learn Hebrew (and Greek, etc) before presenting yourself as a know-all expert on ancient texts.
I've seen several comments about people losing their faith due to searching for reasons to disbelieve, wanting to play God or even claiming they were never believers to begin with. While I can't speak for Kristi, I can speak from my own experiences growing up in a Christian house hold my entire life. I have been surrounded by the word of God since birth, was saved at 7 years old and experienced complete and total faith in God for years. However, after experiencing countless arguments on how to interpret the bible, what's in context and what's out of context, attending churches ranging from reformed, to baptist, to charismatic, honestly I just am so worn and tired. The faith I once had that never faltered has slowly dimmed over time, and it is the worst pain imaginable. BELIEVE me when I say I have no desire to abandon God and that I want to have full faith in him because he is the security I have had my entire life. I believe many people questioning their faith are coming from a place of confusion, feeling betrayed by fellow Christians and questioning who is telling the actual truth. It can feel impossible to sift through the countless arguments, interpretations and opinions of scripture. I can't count the amount of times I've wished I could just erase all of the doubts that have plagued me, because the last thing I want is an existence without God. Having Christians claim I'm seeking reasons to not believe God makes the pain even worse because I never wanted any of this.
To me they are rejecting the Holy Spirit when they believe but still don’t want to except that he is God and not them !!that was the reason Satan was thrown out of heaven. Thats unpardonable sin!! God speaks about the only transgression God will never forgive!!!
Yes I have questions sometimes I can’t understand but the spirit guides me and we aren’t meant to understand everything but to trust our Heavenly Father!!We just believe and trust him on his promises
Put your faith in Christ and in Christ alone!!! Seek the truth yourself along with what you should already know about God! Have you not a testimony? Has he not answered any of your prayers? Knowledge of God can't save us, knowing him intimately as, "Father," is what saves us!
Jasmine, I suggest you stop listening to ANY voices. Just open your bible and read. Start with the certain belief that God is good and loves you. Let it be just you and the Lord. There are too many voices speaking nowadays. It makes it hard to hear the Lord for ourselves. Ask the Lord to reveal Himself to you before you begin reading. He really just wants a relationship with you above all else.
Exactly. They assert your ignorance and unwillingness to believe. The truth is, if the Religion and it’s dogmas are based on reality and facts, we wouldn’t need to believe.
Sorry, but your examples are horrible. The teacher did not [intentionally] create the children imperfect and then blame them. The students are aware, i.e. they can all physically see the teacher, that, yes in-fact, this is MY teacher. And the win/loss is candy vs eternal hell fire - not comparable. Your journey example - you can teach your children about GPS and inform them about your decision to pivot, so not comparable. Who are we to understand God's plan? We are God's children and if we cannot understand "the plan", then the planner is flawed. We could have be created such that we can understand "the plan". What a horrible view - a roundabout way of dismissing that people are created for the sole purpose of fueling hellfire.... Sorry, I stopped watching, doesn't seem like it's worth my time at this point.
@@tiffybl00bs99 parr is disgusting, he's basically making it okay to take slaves and sex slaves, as long as you can pretend god says it's okay, it's okay. it's NEVER okay.
Her asking me to set a 1 minute timer for not to believe in God made me really upset, because before I was saved I was always angry and even self harming I could never in my life let go my love for Jesus
These people don't care about you. They don't do this out of love. They don't do this because they think it will make you happier, or bring you any joy. This is done with malicious intent. When does declaring there is no god ever bring you joy, hope, purpose, or compel you to love your neighbor and help the homeless? It doesn't. She cares about only one thing, and it isn't you, it's herself. She doesn't want you to feel the joy or love you can only receive from the Holy Spirit. She wants to suck all the love you have gained from Jesus out of you. She wants you to be miserable and think like her. She has one goal, and that is to inflate her own arrogance and sense of self importance. That's it.
@@shannonharrison7711 When you say "Once you know the truth" I think you meant to say once you *think* that you know the truth. Three quarters of the worlds population don't believe what Christians believe. I'm guessing that isn't the truth. There is certainly no good evidence for it being true, though the same can be said for all the other magical mythical creatures out there also. There is equal evidence for the existence of fairies as there is for Jesus, Brahman and Allah. Loads of people turn away from believing in things that there is no good evidence for. How many billions of kids turn away from Santa and the tooth fairy?
I love how everyone in this thread so far, except for potentially one person, completely missed the point of the challenge. It is to show that belief isn't a choice that you can just toggle on and off willingly. It has nothing to do with giving up love, hope, peace, or joy.
I Agree but The bible is not god's word The commandments in the bible are not his commandments SO , Even though i agree you follow his commandments YOU FIRST NEED TO FIND THEM AND WHERE THEY ARE
Tha first time I read my bible from cover to cover, I did have some thoughts of His 'ways', but after reading the bible I can sum it up to one word. LOVE. God's love, mercy, patience and awesomeness is displayed all throughout. I am now in my 2nd round of reading the bible cover to cover and will continue to read it again and again.
Reading Old Testament made me declare YHWH as the Satan and not good for society however New Testament God is love and the creator but YHWH is counterfeit
Of all the passages to cause someone to lose their faith, John 3:16 is the most surprising. I find it hardly surprising though that much of the time, there is a disconnect of each of those verses from the rest of the Word of God. I wish her well though. . . Thanks for covering this, Allen! God bless! It does not change who God is, nor does it change his character demonstrated in Christ Jesus
I can see why John 3:16 is troubling. Child sacrifice is terribly immoral and doesn't forgive sins. A truly powerful God could have found a better way to break the rule he made.
@@ryanrevland4333 Sin is so terrible and so wicked in the eyes of our God, who is gracious and compassionate towards all that he made and at the same time righteous and just, that it took sending his Son Jesus (God in the flesh, so really the giving of God HIMSELF) to make a full atonement of the sin of the whole world; would you rather you took the cross yourself? Or the prospect of facing Him on Judgment Day? As for the child sacrifice thing, Allen covered that when talking about the driving out of nations in the land to be given to the Israelites at that time; those nations were notably wicked for many things including child sacrifice, hence driven out by God. God still hates child sacrifice, and he hates sin altogether. How much more wonderful the love of our God demonstrated through the cross! Jesus died AND is alive!!!
@thetruedaoster8863 The problem is that human sacrifice doesn't atone for sins. This is a barbaric ritual and Christians need to realize how immoral this practice is. There is no original sin that requires a blood sacrifice. John 3:16 says God loved us so much he murdered his own son. Normal people are appalled by this. Killing your children is not an act of love. “Would you rather take the cross yourself?” If you're speaking metaphorically then…yes. If I'm guilty of a crime then it's immoral to punish someone else for it. Especially if it's my only son!
@@ryanrevland4333 Human sacrifice does not atone for sins, that is true. But God sacrificed himself (in the person of Jesus, who is God in the flesh). "There is no original sin that requires a blood sacrifice", that is not entirely true. In the Garden of Eden, in Chapter 3 of Genesis, we are told that sin entered into the world, which God had made (and the world was very good before Chapter 3). God made a good world, but mankind has messed it up by turning away from God. That is sin. Normal people are appalled by sin, and rightly so. God didn't exactly kill his Son by his own hand alone; it was the wickedness of man's hearts (as a result of our sin) that killed him. Jesus warned them of that through the Parable of the Vineyard Tenants; Jesus waned them that they would reject him and ultimately kill - and sure enough they did. And yet God worked through that all to bring about our redemption. It does not make crucifixion or child sacrifice any less horrific; however the sin we collective committed against our holy God (who gave us life) means that there is no way humanity can atone for our sin. Also, God's ways are far higher than ours; we cannot equate our human 'morality' to the same level as God's morality. Finally, I didn't entirely mean metaphorically about taking the punishment yourself (though understandably I could've meant that too). God is still patient with us, wanting ALL to repent and turn to him for forgiveness. We owed a debt that we cannot pay (even for our own sin, or 'crime'); God paid the debt that he did NOT owe - and He did it all in Himself. We may not know everything about God, or why He chose to do things the way He did, but in Christ Jesus we know enough about Him that we can trust Him to reign (He at least does it better than we ever could). I won't pretend I answered your objections in the way you'd want to hear or such that it satisfies you, but I hope and pray that you would see that our God loves us amazingly, even we are at our most unloveable. . . .He demonstrated that through Jesus, who lives AND reigns!
@thetruedaoster8863 I appreciate your thoughtful response. These conversations are important not just for us but others reading this exchange and forming their own opinions. I believe Christianity has layers of immoral premises. The first one is the concept of original sin that you mentioned. Born guilty and deserving of punishment. It's like standing before a judge and being sentenced to death for a crime that your ancestor committed. Even worse, there's no evidence this “crime” ever occurred and has all the hallmarks of mythology. The second is the proposition of vicarious redemption. After the judge sentences you to death he brings out his innocent child and shoots him in the head. Then He turns to you and says, “That's how much I love you. You're free to go.” Lastly is the idea that if you don't believe premise one and two, then you will be tortured for eternity. For atheists, this is an empty threat because we find the whole system absurd. The real damage occurs to the believer who views society through this lens. When you believe that billions of Jews, Muslims, and Hindus are deserving of eternal torture, that will have a negative effect on your mental health.
Please do more. I foundvthis lady today today and what she said left me so sad. Then i found your video reacting to hers and you helped me understand and ferl better. Have a good day😊
@@peterwallis4288 god: "thou shalt not kill" also god: "go kill the canaanites, men, women, children, animals" anyone who can justify that hypocrisy is sick minded. anyone who says "god can kill you because he created you" is sick minded. god: no trial, no jury of peers, no right to counsel, one crime (what sin was the entire world committing at the flood?) and one sentence, to burn, after being drowned of course - if you think that is just and fair, you are sick.
Why would an all knowing, all powerful, and especially an all loving God make it so complicated to understand. Why does it take analogy and rhetoric to explain the word of God?
I'm sorry but typical Calvinistic explanations do not adequately answer this ladies concerns. If Calvanism theology is true then she's completely justified in her assessments and she's actually being more logically consistent
Praying for her. That this same book that has caused her to lose her faith, is the same book that will open her eyes and bring her back to faith in the creator of the universe. ❤
I don't know, I'm losing my faith and the more I read it gets worse, I genuinely don't see how this book could make anyone who actually reads it believe in a good God. I wish it helped but, it really doesn't
We don’t need to understand everything that God does, His ways are greater than our ways, but He always acts out of love and we need to trust that He knows what He’s doing
Choosing to allow someone to be born just for the purpose for them to suffer eternal hell fire isn't love. Justice for not believing in him...who didn't give me faith to believe in him...and then punishing me because HE DIDN'T choose me....not of my own choice....what kind of love is that?
Sure, but you said he always acts out of love. But do you understand why people who don't want to believe what you believe? Because when you look at passages when God told the Israelites to kill the infants of the Amalekites, those were innocent kids. They're babies, aren't they? And Christians today are all about being passionate about being pro-life. I mean, come on. It's hypocritical.
I am almost 77 years old, was ‘saved’ at the age of 23 and spent decades and both volunteer and professional ministry in one of the largest conservative denominations in the United States. I applaud Kristi Burke for questioning the basic teachings of Christianity. It is a religion which the first part of God, (the father) creates human beings and allows them to sin; and punishes them and all of their descendants for that sin. Then the first part of God has the third part of God, the Holy Spirit, impregnate a human being (without asking permission) to create the second part of God which then must be killed so that the first part of God’s will no longer be angry. Absolutely ridiculous😂
You won’t get them to consider your arguments with reason if you throw it aggressively like that. The Christian faith is not rooted in reason, it’s rooted in a deep-seated, desperate need to believe. If you present facts that negates their dogma, they are still obligated to dismiss it and follow faith. If you propound logic, they are obligated to invoke a “higher or mysterious ways” argumentation. If you suggest skepticism, they champion credulity. To them doubt is a challenge to overcome, not a virtue that enables a clearer perspective of reality and truth. This type of reasoning allows for strong biases towards one’s beliefs especially when confronted in these beliefs in an aggressive tone. Basically they view disagreements as persecution. And feeling of being attacked based on one’s beliefs and cause, makes people think they must be doing the right thing.
If that is what you learned, I agree "it is absolutely ridiculous". But let me tell you: that is not what the Bibles says. The Bible is about good news, not about your sad understanding.
These were such difficult passages to go through and explain. You've shed some really good light on them as well as teaching some great principles on the integrity of God's word. Thanks for taking the time to do this. An encouragement to dig deeper into the word and really find out what God means through scripture. Loved that you also used the bible to explain the various passages.
Allen is solid, but I think Mike Winger could dig a lot deeper with these tough passages. And Corey Minor is pretty good with Greek interpretation...(useful for accurate Bible study/translation). God Bless all 3 Brothers in Christ.
Brother Allen, thank you for using your time to help someone who has a whole channel dedicated to Bible bashing. I wish I had that patience like you do.
Great job Allen is answering her complaints with God, with gentleness and respect. We will pray for Kristi that she will find the true Gospel message. I see in the comments a lot of nonbelievers have chimed in; this is good at least they can hear the Gospel message also. Peace
@jeromelacap5460 Uhhhhh how has she done wrong when she has no say in weather she believes or not? How can she do wrong if God chose her for damnation? Can she give herself faith....or is it God that gives faith???? Soooooo if she's wrong for not believing....is it on her or did God give her faith?
@@timjohnson1646 sir you're defeating your own point! You have a choice right now, right now to believe!!! So does she and are you doing it, or are you refusing it!? Instead of using that as an excuse when you nor her,nor I,nor anyone else,truly understands how this works,put that same energy into telling as many people as possible about him! It's God who saves not us! Stop trying to play God and just do what he's said!!
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I am coming back to Christianity after a 2 year absence please pray for my renewal!
praying that God renews us both 🙏🏾
Be embraced by your loving Father and Savior ❤
You are always welcome home.
Welcome back 🎉🎉🎉
Amen!
I'm so very new to Christianity. I just started reading the Bible. I've started with the book of Mark. I am so drawn to your channel and I really appreciate you and your channel. Thank you for helping me start a relationship with God.
God bless you! Well done for making the step. Always ask for wisdom understanding and faith before you read the bible. If I was you after reading mark id go John. And then Luke and then Matthew. Then read Acts and then read Paul’s epistles. After that I’d read Genesis Exodus Leviticus numbers and Deuteronomy. Keep praying and asking God for direction and answers for the things you don’t understand. Try and find a good Bible led church and make Christian friends. God bless you
My encouragement to you would be to try your best and read/ study the Bible as whole. Reason I say this is because every prophecy and event gives context to what we are experiencing today. Try to understand what is being described from what is being prescribed. I could suggest more but don't want to weigh you down. Be blessed.
@@rmanS2C I wrote down your suggestions to follow. Thank you for taking the time to help me. 🙏
Great choice. Just stay in the Word always
@@dre5773 what do I do if I find the Bible extremely boring?
I went the complete opposite. I had all of these same questions and more, especially regarding science and archeology and the more I study the Bible, the more I am completely convinced of God.
I can totally relate ❤
@@araenasanchez Same, here
same with me
Same.
In fact, I find it harder to believe in evolution and big bang theory based on what I have been taught by science and physics. Something coming from nothing for no reason and turning into everything violates every scientific and mathematic principle I've ever learnt.🤷🏽♀️
“It’s not the passages of the Bible that I can’t understand that bothers me. It’s the passages that I do understand.” - Mark Twain
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He was right
He didn’t understand nothing.
@@Josue-di4id Are you suggesting Mark Twain, the literary genius couldn’t comprehend the Bible? That’s an honest question, not an insult by the way.
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You can be a genius on some topics and just plain stupid on different ones .
Everybody is a Genius. But If You Judge a Fish by Its Ability to Climb a Tree, It Will Live Its Whole Life Believing that It is Stupid
@@Josue-di4id That’s why I referenced that he was a literary genius. I believe that he understood the Bible better than most would. Maybe if he was a nuclear physicist your analogy would work, but I don’t think that analogy applies to him in this case
She’s are taken them out of context. There is so much more to just 10 words in the Bible. She needs scholars to first talk to her on the secular aspect of the “book” then enlighten her on the beautiful pragmatic reason for it all. Lady some call it heaven, ever thought of a holly “different “ dimension. And so on, time to open up to the reality of one God, not an old dude with a beard. Please just close your eyes and feel Gods holly spirit. Call it what you want, these are ancient writings. There is only one God, whatever the minute details of it are. Surrender to the only force YHWH.
So glad you made this video. Looking forward to it.
@brijenell0201 Allen asked my take on it. I'd like to take some time to watch it soon. It looks like Allen did a stellar job of responding to the arguments.
Yep you violent bigots have to stick together
Melissa, I was going back and forth with this woman in the comment section of her videos last year.
I was hoping either you or Allen would see one of her videos, and maybe try to help her.
I thought about mentioning her to you two, but I stay out of peoples' business, so just hoped one of you would discover her.
i only listened to her argument on john 3:16 and after listening to her for less than 2 minutes (it's unbearable to listen to as it's full of bs), here are my thoughts.. she kept confusing herself, possibly to also confuse the viewers. i'm 100% sure she was never a christian, her reasoning, her arguments are not only far from the truth, but also twisted and full of malice. like i'm listening to the demon himself. she's totally clueless as to why jesus had to die, and that reason is "central to christian belief". totally unbelievable for an "ex-christian". maybe she got herself into a cult or something. but i'm sure she's lying that she was a christian.
i would've believed her if she explained the verse in good faith and tell us why christians believe that way, and then criticize that belief. if she really was a christian why not tell us a christian pov? most probably because she knows NONE of it.. and what she did? she explained the verse in a very twisted, almost diabolical way. the look on her face and how her voice changed to a high pitch is very disturbing, like someone's been possessed or something. probably what happens to someone who goes too much to bIm/hummus rallies.
one last thing, she kept blabbering on the last part about belief. how you could be saved by just having belief only. again, totally clueless. obviously driven by their Ieftist/w0ke/d3monic agenda.
“Anyone who loves me will obey my teaching. My Father will love them, and we will come to them and make our home with them. Anyone who does not love me will not obey my teaching. These words you hear are not my own; they belong to the Father who sent me." (John 14:23-24)
added: very disingenuous of her to claim to be an ex-christian to begin with. and this l3ftist/w0k3/d3monic uploader deleted all my comments in her video criticizing her so i'm posting this here instead! lmao
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When you explained the application of Psalm 137:9, this came into my mind: Something DESCRIBED in the Bible, is NOT the same as something PRESCRIBED by the Bible.
Thanks for your elaboration at that point, Allen!
Exactly! I try to explain the difference between the prescriptive things in the Bible and those that are just Descriptive. For some reason, though, people seem to get the two confused.
So slavery wasn't prescribed in the bible and given instructions as to how to do it properly? Marrying your rapist wasn't prescribed in the bible? Really? It's honestly appalling the things people have to come up with to keep believing in the god of the bible
@@Emanuel-hh4uu rape is a mistranslation from the Niv parallel passages from Exidus clarify that it is talking about consensual fornication. the Bible doesn't say a woman must marry her rapist
@@Emanuel-hh4uu No, the Hebrew Old Testament does not say to marry your rapist. In the chapter in question it references rape multiple time in a row by using the Hebrew word for "forced". Then it uses an entirely different word towards the end of the chapter where the NIV translation inexplicably decided to translate it as rape.... The NIV is not a very literal translation either. If you look at formal equivalent translations you will find that they treat the difference in Hebrew by using a difference in English....and then suddenly it no longer says rape. This situation is a translation and interpretation error that it taken advantage of by atheists.
@@hayfieldhermit9657 Okay, sure, what about slavery?
This is a huge issue I keep hearing about... "deconstructing faith" it's one thing to ask honest questions to get to understand God it's another to ask loaded questions and try to nit pick God's word so you can do whatever you want in your own moral code.
Agreed. To deconstruct faith is not to have it in the first place.
@@jabmorris oooohhhh isn't that truth.
We absolutely should be asking the loaded questions! Not only can God handle them, but he doesn't ask us to have a blind faith, or abandon critical thinking. He gave us our brains after all. I believe that if you pray, and sincerely seek God and the truth, He will ultimately lead you back to Himself.
A lot people saying that we don’t need to ask questions don’t realize how much others have manipulated the word and been abusive/misleading towards ppl that genuinely just wanted love God with their whole heart.
@@justthatnerdyfashion I think you've misunderstood loaded... I mean to prove yourself right not let God reveal himself to you.
My parents made me a Christian, my brain made me an atheist.
@@Żagñùţ01 exactly!
The same is true for me.
And I didn't harden my heart. I prayed appox 7 years and asked for my interior confidence that christianity is the right path foe me. Finally, there was a big scilence from heaven. After that, I stopped blaming myself for not praying enough and not serious enough. Today, I am a relaxed and happy atheist. Honestly.
@@KK-jw3iw And let the people with common sense say AMEN!!
@@KK-jw3iwThen why are you listening to this? Sounds like you are still searching.
@@KK-jw3iw Let's see if you say the same thing on your death bed.
Alan thankyou for covering this so thoroughly!
This will indeed equip us to deal with these objections.
Thank you, Allen. I came upon her video a while ago and i went to my pastor and asked questions on the verses she "debunked." Very blessed to have her because she explained it the same way you did. I pray God will take the scales off her eyes. Amen.
I watched the Kristi Burke's video about a month ago and it made me question God because I was not understanding the meanings of the passages correctly, and this video really helped me to understand them better and I'm so grateful for this video. Thank you so much!
NEVER second guess God Almighty…the Devil is so cunning this is his specialty…REMEMBER we will ALL go through trials heartbreak and trouble in this life we can’t even begin to comprehend a fraction of the way God thinks…God Bless you🙏🙏 even the great Bible scholar Dr. Chuck Missler would often say on certain passages…..”what did God mean.? he would say I have no idea what God meant..know thatAllen is telling you exactly what the passages mean🙏🙏
Thank you so much for your answer! Thank you for advising and encouraging me and giving me peer support. God bless you too ❤
It's fine and good to question scripture you don't understand, but put in the research, and you will find the answers. It's not our place to judge God, but it's our place to study his word and to put in our best efforts to understand him better! Then, we will be better equipped to defend the faith! God bless you 🙏🏿
It's okay to doubt God. Moses, Gideon, Jonah, David, they all have doubts. Thomas & Peter had doubts. But instead of looking for answers at the right place (Holy Spirit, the Bible) Adam and Eve fell from the paradise, Judas Iscariot regretted and killed himself. After all, it's pride before the fall. So many deconstruction videos stem from this.
Just as she could have done. She's antichrist... Demon filled and chose to rebel.
So much lying and jumping through hoops trying to defend the bible.
Often times I've found that there's two types of Atheist...those who think they're better than God and those who are angry at God. I pray for her.
I have found two types of Christians: people who are afraid to die, and people who want divine permission to hurt people. You are both
Amen indeed... As an ex new ager and new born christian, I'm guilty of both...
Well then you don’t really know the atheist community.
God bless your heart 😘
i only listened to her argument on john 3:16 and after listening to her for less than 2 minutes (it's unbearable to listen to as it's full of bs), here are my thoughts.. she kept confusing herself, possibly to also confuse the viewers. i'm 100% sure she was never a christian, her reasoning, her arguments are not only far from the truth, but also twisted and full of malice. like i'm listening to the demon himself. she's totally clueless as to why jesus had to die, and that reason is "central to christian belief". totally unbelievable for an "ex-christian". maybe she got herself into a cult or something. but i'm sure she's lying that she was a christian.
i would've believed her if she explained the verse in good faith and tell us why christians believe that way, and then criticize that belief. if she really was a christian why not tell us a christian pov? most probably because she knows NONE of it.. and what she did? she explained the verse in a very twisted, almost diabolical way. the look on her face and how her voice changed to a high pitch is very disturbing, like someone's been possessed or something. probably what happens to someone who goes too much to bIm/hummus rallies.
one last thing, she kept blabbering on the last part about belief. how you could be saved by just having belief only. again, totally clueless. obviously driven by their Ieftist/w0ke/d3monic agenda.
“Anyone who loves me will obey my teaching. My Father will love them, and we will come to them and make our home with them. Anyone who does not love me will not obey my teaching. These words you hear are not my own; they belong to the Father who sent me." (John 14:23-24)
added: that l3ftist/w0k3/d3monic uploader deleted all my comments in her video criticizing her so i'm posting this here instead! lmao
I think the first passage from Romans will dictate the rest. People want THEIR preferences to be above God's and He CLEARLY tells us He is sovereign AND that His ways are NOT our ways! He also asks us to test Him by being obedient and holding Him to His Word (which one has to know to find out our benefits). If one does this, they will learn that God IS LOVE and ALWAYS keeps His Word and although we do not understand everything (remember, The Bible says we see thru the glass darkly), we can FULLY trust Him! Let those with ears to hear, hear...🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾
So true. I think all growing Christians get to this principle at some point. It’s hard to swallow at first. I think we don’t even realize we have been putting God in our own constraints of what WE think is fair and right. Eventually you accept it and begin to trust that He is good and beyond your ability to judge and sometimes even understand. And honestly, when I came to this realization and accepted it, my gratitude towards Him for saving me became SO much greater. Off the charts grateful!
@@CB-zv1jiAmen, same. Well put. 🙏🏽✝️🕊️
Amen
Amen!
We cannot even begin to understand God unless we believe, love and worship Him with all our heart, mind, soul and strength. The fear of God is the beginning of wisdom. Seek first His kingdom a His righteousness and all these things will be added to you.
Excellent discernment of the word. When she said she did a better job than God, I felt shocked 😲
She’s an idiot. Harsh, but no other way of putting it.
Me too, in fact I felt physically revolted.
Truly! 😮
Yesss
Yeah, that was satan's problem too!
If you lose your faith through biblical study, then that means you actually read the bible.
If you dont lose your faith through biblical study, then you had someone read it to you.
People could read but still not understand context or phrases in scripture that involves deeper dives. Some people don't understand what they've read and choose to leave.
@@kraftyval2162 sounds like a great plan…..an all intelligent god to write a book that is to difficult for some to understand only to have it interpreted by another human full of sin.
I heard a priest say to ask the Holy Spirit to help you read the Bible. He was really good at understanding it, but he was actually speaking what the Holy Spirit told him to.
I did, and the Spirit also led me out of the RCC. Most of the priests there said normal people can't really understand the Bible, they need a priest to interpret it.
I became a much better Christian after leaving the RCC. God wants a heart that loves Him because He does save and forgive. I found at least one passage that made me say the hell with this, this is as bad as the old liars in the RCC.
But I also kept the door open to learning what it really might mean. It was Solomon saying it was difficult to find an honest man, but he'd never found an honest woman. To me that is encouraging men to hate women.
Finally, since I kept my mind open, I decided that Solomon was NOT a man after God's heart, and he gathered women who believed in false gods, and followed their ways. So God never gave him a good woman.
@@keepingitreal7135 It's not that simple. The bible was inspired by God himself. God is incomprehensible to us. His mind and being are far above us. We cannot comprehend him, which is why most of us cannot understand the bible, even some believers cannot understand it. To understand the bible, you must open yourself up to God and pray and ask for wisdom and understanding.
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This morning the Lord gave me a message to remind myself (and Sister Kristi): Trust in the Lord with all thine heart, and lean not unto thine own understanding. In all thy ways acknowledge Him, and He will direct thy paths. Proverbs 3:5-6
Yes!!!! ❤️❤️❤️❤️
How am I supposed to not lead into my own understanding when I'm trying to understand these difficult passages about the Bible? Like, take for example, when God wanted the Israelites to slaughter the infants of the Amalekites, those babies were innocent. Why didn't God have mercy on those infants?
No deity is trying to communicate with you. It's your own thoughts.
Source: “trust me bro”
Thank you sharing that verse ridden with confirmation bias. As one commenter said, whose understanding should I be using? 🙄
What I've learned over the years is that people who lose their faith probably never knew a living God in the first place. I find a lot of people who lose their faith come from Christian families and never got to know God in their own relationship with him.
It's heartbreaking, yet so common especially with young people.
I have tried for years to know God and to no avail. If he doesn’t wanna be there for me, then I am not going to be there for him. I would rather go to hell then be with someone who doesn’t even want to show up.
I’m sorry you feel alone or abandoned. We do need to remember that cannot show up because he is already everywhere (omnipresent). God is in every part of nature (such as eclipses, insect life cycles, the seasons, the laws of physics). God has been there through every part of human history. God then gave us his word which is how he speaks to us as well as through learned men who have been able to learn more in depth things about the Bible in order to teach the rest of us.
@ChrisHayworth100 , you appear to be engaging in a derivation of the “No true Scotsman “ fallacy, known as the ‘No true Christian “ fallacy. Lost your faith, well you never were a Christian to begin with. Because true Christians don’t lose faith.
If those people were truly saved, sure God will return them back to the faith, but I think that we shouldn't judge anyone, but put them in our prays, most believers pass hard times , we had already examples from the bible,
I'm so proud of you Allen Parr 😊. Thank you for rightly dividing the word of truth.
But we aren't talking about not getting candy at the end, we're talking about suffering an eternity of punishment. God hadn't given us the choice. He punishes those he molded for his purpose of bringing about his own glory - his patience there is not to allow those people to choose him eventually- it clearly says it's to show his glory. Stop adding in your own justifications and just read the text. I grew up "harmonizing scripture " which is just a fancy way of not admitting the contradictions that exist all throughout the Bible.
Very good! And much agreed! I would like to see how this guy explains away evolution? I believe most protestants are anti-evolution (although I am not positive?)? If he is one of those, I would like to hear how he explains away evolution. That's when his ability to reason would lose all credibility with me!
@@scholarlyanalyst7700 Evolution has nothing to do with this, the issues covered here are spiritual not physical, scientific, earthly.
A real god would, by definition "be greater than" any human ideas or theories. That is one way the one God separated himself from the myriad manmade so-called gods (and religions) from the beginning.
Christianity is of course based on Judaism and Jesus is Jewish. Starting with these determines right or wrong ways of understanding the whole bible, which the woman in the original video seems to be ignorant of.
@TheJohnsonCrew The woman in the original vid and you also, seem to not understand that all of the issues mentioned have to be "interpreted" as to their meaning in the large context of God's self-definition in the OT-- seen through the history of interactions with the Jewish people over centuries.
? You say: choice, punishes, molded, allowed, given... us...
Who is "us"? Do you understand that literally *all humanity* every living person, past, ancient, prehistoric, neanderthal, savages, tribes, peoples, nations-- in any and every place and time-- violate/s/ed-- their knowledge and connection to God by being separated from him through sin?
This gives the a priori context for everything taught in the scripture, and that Jesus said and did. God sees and knows everything, so the default position is that everybody dies, separated from him after death. And death itself is a disastrous event/condition caused by our sin and disconnect from God in the firstplace.
But the bible point is: that God being merciful did not and does not allow this to happen-- so he intervened to alter that default to turn into life, resurrection and good relationship to him. All these supposed problems of contradiction or disharmonizing, and this woman's issues dissolve when you get the whole perspective.
None of these things are "about us" what we think, morally feel or intellectually wrestle with... the Bible is about the salvation of mankind from what we condemn/ed "ourselves" to.
Exactly!
The teacher explanation is such a straw man way to look at it. The teacher would need to have created the kids, given them all the rules, chosen some to give candy to, and some to flay their flesh for eternity. Other than that, it was a good argument.
When anyone attempts to deconstruct God, they end up deconstructing themselves. I pray God opens her eyes.
This doesn't mean anything, you Christians are full of words but devoid of reason
I tried to help her understand things more accurately, but she slammed the door on me each time.
It finally dawned on me she didn't want to know the truth in these things.
She was ticked and on the attack.
She's mad at and hates Yahweh.
I think she may be hiding her real reasons for this.
Something happened, somebody died, or she didn't get something she wanted.
@@JustinCase-em6ql all we can do is continue sharing the truth. Only God can convict.
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True.
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Proverbs 2:12-14,
"Wisdom will save you from the ways of wicked men, from men whose words are perverse, who have left the straight paths to walk in dark ways, who delight in doing wrong and rejoice in the perverseness of evil."
"This book is correct" - the Quran, by your logic islam is true since the book said it was true
@xXEGPXx By the BIBLE'S LOGIC, the only TRUE & LIVING GOD is the Lord Jesus Christ. There can only be one. Yahweh ♥️
@@xXEGPXxpls give a verse , you cant just come and quote it budfy
Somebody, tell Kristi to check this video! Praying for her to restore her faith in the Mighty King, Jesus! Kristi, if you read this, please know that we LOVE you and try to open mind and study God's Word very carefully. God bless!
Kristi has several “deconstruction” videos. She loves her reinterpretations because it fits her intersectional beliefs.
At least your doing something positive.
I just posted this very link to Allan’s video on her page, on the exact video that she presented on her page
Poor Girl. She has misunderstood the Bible and it seem like she had no one to explain it or help her understand it. I see that a lot more and more. Hopefully she will see Alan’s video and come to an understanding of what the Bible is actually saying in those verses. I will definitely be praying for her.
@@danielfortonforton223I will find it hard to pray for her but will do so in obedience to what Jesus said about praying for our enemies, but I will also be praying for the people she has influenced away from God with these videos she has put out into the world and the people she has any contact with. These were very immature ideas she has made for herself and yes, I agree, she has obviously never had good guidance in her understanding. God bless 😊✝️
He is translating an already translated book. You have to take it as it's written. You can't make up your own justification for what God word says. You can't pick and choose what scriptures are credible or not. If you claim this is the word of God, then you have to take the entire book as it's written rather, it's good or bad. He basically comes up with his own translation of an already translated book. He did not answer any questions.
@@pierregambrell9236 The common way among scholars is to have a hierarchy of the content of the Bible. At the top are direct quotes from Jesus in the gospels. Look up "rules of biblical exegesis" if you are interested.
For example, the Bible says in the book of Ecclesiastes that we all go to the shadow world after death regardless of merit. However, in Matthew, Jesus himself talks about eternal punishment for the wicked.
These things are not reconcilable. Matthew simply takes precedence.
In a wildly inconsistent collection of texts you need rules to make sense. There are still contradictions at the same level. Was Salome at the grave of Jesus? She was but also she was not.
He's not translating he's contextualising. He's putting isolated verses back in context
I agree.
And it's very obvious it's man made. Just some guy projecting his cultures to someone else and who doesn't comply is sinful. Anyone could write these words, how do they know these writers wrote the word of God? How is casual sex sinful? Does it hurt anyone? No. It's just meant to be a form of control over the Christians. And this thing about "true god" is nonsense, an Islamic person will believe in their God as much as Christians. And they will believe in it wholeheartedly just like Christians
@@timwest7467 Like saying adultery justify murder isn't bad enough. Christians are always saying they're "pro-life" but thinks the ones who commit adultery deserve to die. Everyone has a chance to live and to redeem themselves, taking the life away from them is way more evil than an adultery. You can recover from adultery, but you can't from death
I have a cousin who once called me in a panic asking, "How do I know if God chose me or not?!"
I asked him, "Did you choose Him back?"
"Yes."
"Then you know He chose you."
This short conversation conquered my cousin's panic. Praise God!
God extends the invitation. It is up to us to receive it by faith or not.
You are funny.
Amen!
@@dakotanorth1640 It's like seeing a girl that you like, and imagining that you asked her out on a date, and imagined that she accepted your request, then imagining that happened, that you are now in a full relationship, and you both love each other. If anyone asks, you can't introduce her, as it is only a relationship in ones own mind.
Gods grace is available to all people. Don’t fall for Calvinism you guys. There are many biblical theologians who refute Calvinism and they show you with scripture.
@@jen4um I would suggest that one doesn't fall for any of the religions until one has good evidence for a god. If one has good evidence that a god exists, then determine which god, as there are hundreds at a minimum. If one can determine that the god is an Abrahamic god, see which religion it supports, Then specifically ask this god which denomination has it correct, they can't all be correct. If you get this far and find a god supports a Christian denomination, I think gullibility is in your character. Well done you.
I just finished the most amazing study with Jennifer Parr, and here I am with another blessing from the Parr family. Thank you 🙏
Wow, that is SO good to hear! I am SO proud of my wife! Ladies, if you're not involved in our community where my wife is teaching a monthly Bible study, you're missing out. I also do a monthly Bible study in our community as well. Learn more here - letsequip.com/community.
Jennifer and Allen Parr are both on the sex offender registry for the rape and torture of their own children
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I'm going to take all day to pick this video apart, point by point, since I don't have the money or time to make a channel. I'll pause typing as I watch your video. Go ahead and ignore this since I don't have an audience 🙄
1.) God is under no moral obligation to extend salvation to anyone.
Um, yes, actually. He is. He IS under moral obligation and compunction, to CONSIDER others. To CONSIDER their suffering. To CONSIDER the disproportionality of literally his entire teliology. To suggest otherwise is both without a solid premise, and without moral code, whatsoever, demonstrating the depravity this religion lends.
2.)
@@thebeatagp and my comment was deleted. Of course
Pastor Allen, this was an excellent video you put together. I am sooo impressed by how you put your videos together with all the different Bible verses to answer these difficult questions. It’s amazing what the Holy Spirit can do through us. Thank you for all you do sir! God bless you!
I was having a conversation to a religious friend of mine ,he claimed everything in the bible was true ,I said what if you contracted leprosy would you use the bible cure of killing one bird and burning it and sprinkle the ashes onto another bird and let it fly away or seek modern medical advice? Awkward silence.
Not in this covenant no.
What a lame question
@@stevolanddownunder3549 Wtf are you talking about? You can't just switch covenants to suit .If you believe the entire bible to be true ,that includes BOTH TESTAMENTS !!!
Well, just because your friend said that everything in the Bible was true does not mean that everything will apply and happen during modern times. Jesus raised people from the dead back then, but that doesn't mean that because those miracles actually happened, that everyone who is full of faith and/or has a relationship with Jesus will have their family member or loved one raised from the dead.
@@keturahjackson6762- yeah a lot of stuff that happened in biblical times doesn’t seem to happen anymore. That’s why I’m not sure why some Christians want me to magically believe God is going to do this or that cause he doesn’t
I'm not going to lie. I have struggled with some of those and other obscure scriptures. I don't have to understand everything. I just need to trust God and know His Word is authority. The Holy Spirit reveals this to me ❤
"I used to think for myself but gave up because ignorance is easier than thought" is literally what you just said
@@xXEGPXx uh, no. It's realization that we don't know everything. Truth is we never have all the answers to every question. Whether you believe in nothing accounting for everything or God accounting for it, you still believe one or the other without knowing all the answers.
Which is better? Questions that can't be answered...or answers that can't be questioned? @@hayfieldhermit9657
@@xXEGPXxwhy do you care ? Literally everyone is given a mental system, nothing is thought by oneself
You can't be wise in your own sight towards the things of God. His thoughts are not your thoughts. Shalom.
"Set a timer on my phone and disbelieve for one minute?" No ma'am my salvation means too much to me. Jesus didn't pay the ultimate price for me to switch it on and off.
Amen
I was born again in Feb of 2022. I remember the day I went from unbelief to belief. Even if I did set a 1 minute timer to pretend I didn't believe, I'd still believe and Jesus knows that. Signed, sealed, delivered. I'm His.
AMEN.
@charlesburgess7831 What did jesus pay exactly? He sacrificed his weekend, is this what you call the ultimate price?
@@GerardShah do you truly want to know? At the risk of me sharing and you not receiving, I'll explain it to you. Jesus was fully man and fully God. So as a man He felt sadness and pain and hunger and thirst. He loved His life and His family and friends. When He knew His time was short. He wept and sweated blood... He was devastated to have to go through this criminal's punishment. But He did so willingly. The scriptures say He was punched and kicked and whipped. The skin of His back was like tattered rags. The whip was made of sharp bone, glass shards, metal balls, and leather. He was beaten all night to the point that He was unrecognizable. He was nailed to the cross, piercing a major vein in the middle of the hand and feet causing nerve damage and agonizing pain. His position on the cross was in a way that His lungs was locked in the inhale position. To exhale, He had to lift Himself up by the nails in His hands....rubbing His open back on a splinter ridden cross. His heart busted within His body. And before He died from this cardic episode, He said, "It is finished." Very odd. But He was saying, " Father, I took the punishment meant for Gerard's crimes against you...if he puts his trust in that, he is free to everlasting life." And He showed what that looked like by rising from the dead...proving also that He is God. You call it a weekend, but it more than than that. Father God can see your sin no more and you can live forever because Jesus, as you say, "sacrificed His weekend." To save your soul this is a reflection of the old sacrificial law... of innocent/perfect blood shed to cleanse people from sin. God's 2 natures, wrath and love was satisfied that day. Jesus said, "No greater love than man, lay His life down for His friends." If you are deconstructing Gerard or you never known Jesus. Put or return your trust in Jesus and turn away from all unrighteousness. Take care.
Nah, this man doesn't make any of these verses better
He explains some concepts and ideas that help Christians, but he doesn't tackle the real problems at all
Welcome to apologetics!
Yep
the real problem is fallible people not knowing God, not having the Holy Spirit that reveals His Word, and then trying to criticize His Word without even really studying it
@@slick_Ric Lol. That's a fictional problem. Can you demonstrate you have the holy spirit? 🤨
The children example in particular was a perfect analogy to support the original video.
Insane how a person can carefully explain to you why they don't believe, and all you have to offer is to accuse her of never believing and that she should just "trust in the lord". Do you all realize how alienating you are? Do you hear yourselves? How do you expect for anyone to hear you out when all you have is accusations?
Christians are too lost in the jesus juice. Some are too deep in and can't see how they come off to other people
He is not accusing her of anything it's a matter of truth . What is the truth ? If the truth is God exist which I believe he does then God himself says that you should follow his way not your own way and that is what we are sadly seeing in the world many wars many hateress many injustice because people don't follow God's way they follow their own way
@Parsa-vh2mp it's not a proven truth, it's a belief. Your religion saying that it's true means nothing, every religion says that.
What miracle have you worked? who have you raised from the dead? did you wake yourself this morning? Who created you? I could go on...
@chrisgal8944 "did you wake yourself this morning" yes??? obviously??? I'm an adult I don't have my parents knocking at my door lmao?
and the only people "raised from the dead" were done so in operating rooms via modern medicine, incredible work by doctors and nurses, and also extremely quickly.
"Yea, you're right. That's the beauty of it..."
What a beautiful way to revisit the Good News! I needed to hear this again MOST! Great video; THANK YOU! ❤
My favorite part 🥹🙏🏾
Thank you so much Pastor Allen for reacting to this video! I watched this video months ago and just felt so sad, concerned, and upset watching it. And seeing the comments as well. I prayed because I didn't feel like I was knowledgeable enough to give a good response.
But it disturbed me so much because her video helps to give a push and confirmation to other people in doubt and moving away from the Lord. Thank you for addressing what she said. Hopefully your video will show up around her video, so those same people who would check her video, will check yours too.
It's a very self centered approach with which she read into the scriptures, seemingly basing her thoughts/ perspectives/perceptions as morally higher and more sensible than God's. God, who created everything, and allowed for everything to exist. We as humans deceive ourselves sometimes and become foolish in our perceived wisdom. I'm praying for her and her comment section.
Why did you not address "and do whatever you want with them" (the woman and children)?
You really don't believe these justifications to these horrible Bible passages... Do you🤔
1 Corinthians 2:14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
He also says god doesn't want them to kill innocent babies in the beginning then glazes over the verse where god instructs them to "kill every living thing" (including innocent babies) in the cities near the promised land, this guy is a liar and excuse maker
Cos he can't! 😂 Or the other 'difficult' passages in the bible that are never mentioned in church or bible studies. There is no explaining them or justifying them. Direct instructions from god. He's pretty much doing word salad this whole video but sounding as if he is deep diving into it everything But he's missing out the worst bits or moving us onto other sections.
He also completely missed the whole first point! The fact that God makes people specifically to go to hell. HIs example with the candy makes no sense because all of the kids apparently didnt earn it, but that doesnt explain a person who is religious and "good" their whole life who still ends up in hell because thats how god designed them.
God hates esau (white peoples) Roman 9:13 kjv
Obadiah 1:18kjv
Isaiah 14:21 kjv
Jeremiah 14:2 kjv
Lamentation 4:10
Job 30:30 kjv
The real Jew are black,Latino and Indian
One of my favorite past times is watching the mental gymnastics needed for Christians to hang on to their faith when shown text from their own book...
I agree with you but I’m still terrified of hell. I don’t want to burn forever, and it breaks my heart to think about my loved ones burning.
@@Plague_Doctor_MDWhy do you believe in hell? Isn’t God Love? How could he let that happen?
@@domenikvalci7743 I personally believe the Bible states that the unsaved are annihilated (not consciously tormented, but destroyed) but still do many people believe in hell and some have claimed to have seen it.
@@Plague_Doctor_MD Why would God create humans, just so they get destroyed?? What was the purpose of their existence?
See, that doesn’t make sense. I don’t believe in damnation. Every single soul will find their way back to God, it just takes more time for some than others.
@@domenikvalci7743 personally I don’t mind if it’s annihilationism or universalism. Just as long as my loved ones won’t be tortured forever. Do you think people burn in hell temporarily and then go to heaven to be with god?
Thank you Allen for talking about this, this woman's page is very dangerous and scary, because she didn't understand the Bible doesn't mean she should destroy others beliefs especially those starting their faith, rather you challenge that fact and try to proof and understand the passage. How far you can go to understand God determines how well you love him. How can you say God hates women and his people yet you've been living your Life normally as a hateful woman towards your God for a long time all because you didn't understand yet he hasn't struck you, that on its own is mercy and free weal.
I have seen worse than her don't worry their help to my faith tbh.
Perhaps that is the purpose for which God has hardened her heart.
Well said
@@normanreichwald6158her unbelief and sinfulness therein is hardening her heart. Her arrogance in thinking she’s a better god.. hardened her heart
How does destroy peoples beliefs?
I pray she stumbles upon this video and God uses it to soften her heart and draw her close to him. 🙏
Thank you pastor Allen for loving her enough to react to this video with truth! Keep up the great work I’m very thankful for this channel.
Your pst said nothing new on this video. Just recycle old arguments that I am sure Kristi has heard....
Wow thanks Allen. That's a superb job you did there. Keep up the great work!
"God is under no morale obligation to save us"
No deadass like you made us.
Crazy thing is he didn't just make us but we are parts of him. So going to hell is literally just disconnecting from the source... He uses the word "harden" in terms of suffering which could most likely mean it's not the end either
This is a very flawed way of looking at God and existence. God made you because he wanted fellowship with you. It’s your choice whether you accept his grace for your mistakes or not. God does not send you to hell, you send yourself there because you say no to HIS grace. These are the laws of existence, who are we to question them? We’re flawed in our understanding, we cannot possibly know why HE does what HE does. God shows you what is needed to be shown. A good thing to do is try praying, ask the LORD to help open your eyes to HIM, ask for HIM to help you see the truth and light. God will show you, you need to be willing to submit.
@@ThePugPrince this is a seriously delusional response.
"God made me"
@@ThePugPrince What's flawed is you assuming the truth of reality. When I tell you guys to prove it you only run away like the little cowards you are. Or you make a logical fallacy. In that case you shouldn't be talking in the first place.
Brother Allen, you've addressed these matters extremely well. I pray for those that watch her videos so as they don't get led astray from our Lord God. I'm so grateful for your doing your service for the Lord! God is faithful.
I “pray” you find you way to not believe a magic man
Even people did not watch her they still dont like your hypocritical religion
I disagree, Kristi Burke is totally correct.
@@lilymitman I pray you stop listening to youtubers that pick and choose what they like from the bible. Whether you like it or not God is your creator.
@@timeames2509 No she isn't.
I didn’t fully understand the crucifixion until I read Leviticus. We as humans needed to see God sacrifice for us, it WAS an act of love that was SO needed for us humans to understand his love and understand our need for him.
Absolutely!!!!!! It helped understand the gist of “Salvation”. If Christ had not come we would still be doing all those works just to appear holy before God and it would still have been short.
Cool, where can I see that "sacrifice"? And don't tell me to read the bible. You said we needed to SEE it, not to read about it in an old fairy tale.
I’ve still never felt loved by what I’ve read in the bible. It instilled lots of fear but not love.
@Finckelstein a perfect God would not sacrifice his precious child to make us see that he loves us... how does "sacrifice" equate to love? That's honestly evil IMO. When he told Abraham to kill his only son. Sacrifice him to prove he loved God and then he said "just kidding, never mind. I was just testing your faith" how is that and not considered evil? How is that love? It's disgusting.
Thank you for making this video.
It was a prayer of mine that someone who was biblically sound would take the time to refute this woman’s bold yet incorrect position.
I’ve read the Bible and I do not find her position incorrect. Indeed, I can cite many more problematic passages involving genocide, slavery , incest, stoning to death, tribalism, etc, etc, etc
@@horridhenry9920I she defo wrong especially with all the point you said, if you study the bible you will relise everything happened with a good reason, until now some of are still in the same circle.
@@horridhenry9920I bet you don’t haunt the Muslim channels like you do the Christian ones. Go read the quran… that will give you something to feast your hate on.
Unfortunately, Allen wasn’t the right “teacher” to do so. Praying that Mike Winger will get his hands on this for a more in-depth take.
@@Meaincubus Good for who? Not the Canaanite’s, Hittites, Amorites, Perizzites, Hivites, or Jebusites.
“Have you ever met a non-believer and They told you that they want God?” Yes! It was me. I spent years during my faith struggle hoping God would reveal himself to me and he never did.
People who listen to this channel and look up to this man, I’m not asking you to change your belief in God, that is your personal journey. But stop pretending like you know why people lose their faith or become an atheist. People have honest reasons for why they lose their faith, and pretending they don’t so you can ignore their experience is so disingenuous.
Hi brother i can understand you i was also looking for god and I aslo preyed to god that reveal yourself to me and he never did that
in a way that i want but he did reveal himself in a way that is right to me that good in his eyes that very loving eye of my love he didn't reveal like we see in photos like a person but his love come upon me and i understand that he's my god than he showed hi miracle in my life that i was looking because spending 7 months with my love Jesus i now see how god would see things and my faith is growing all-day even though my family members saying that they would throw me out of family still i love my Jesus more then me and i truly not judging you aur explaining you why you like that it's just hurts me that someone there is also searching and unable to understand its upto you my bother think again that in which way that god try to reveal himself to you and possible that could be this comment why would i try to convince a person that i don't even know iam a busy person and why would i am replying to you in this hundreds of comment why specifically your comments god bless you brother
Same. I decided to call myself agnostic, because I never experienced a personal feeling of connectedness or assurance.
However, I always found the moral standards and lectures very guiding for life in general.
What made me seek faith again was death in our family. And when I wish my loved ones to be in a better place, I also have to believe in that place.
Its really not. You wanted God in your own image; you wanted to be your own God in essence. I pray that you’ll see that grave error
@@josiahvega671 lol. thats the point the original comment is trying to say. Forcing your own believes. Typical christian.
I think people need something in their lives to believe in somth. Like if you see something that will make you believe, they will believe. But some people just believe in things that they don't even see and that amaze. For me, I am a deist and I feel good in my own. I can't get along with Christians cus they are blind to thinking of their own. They believe blindly.
Rather than justify the apalling passages in the bible, he finds contradictory passages. This really shows how flawed and unreliable the bible is as a moral guide to anything.
Unless you understand the nature of God - total love and grace but also justice - it is not possible to understand the bible. If you cut god and his intentions out of the word, there is nothing any more. John 1 - HE is the word.
Saying the bible isn't reliable for live just indicates that He wants you to invite Him to introduce himself to you - are you ready for that ? It will change your life, and this will be the best joice you'll ever make
@@CBechteris your god shy? Or maybe not that smart? Or is it just playing games?
What's going on?
@@CBechter, literally believing in anything else gives the same effect as Christainity, including other religions. They make you feel purposful, and right when you fully believe you are no matter the religion. That is why atheism is often compared to religion. I just choose to be agnostic on it all.
@@jeremycamacho8864In the end only the truth will prevail. It is our job to search for it.
Other than that, you can examine verified miracles, if you are not willing to invite God into your life yet.
Yep
So according to that logic, where is the actual verse about raping a woman that isn't engaged? Why is the other one that apparently encompasses all rape specifically mentioning a situation where the woman is engaged and not just all women in general like you're trying to spin it. Can you explain this? (Probably not)
The OT is brutal on women.
It's today's society that is brutal on women. My Mom is an excellent Mom. Even God himself would enjoy her company. And all my childhood I saw what the world has put her through. And it is because she is a champion role model for all women that the others who saw, changed and fixed their ways.
Perspectives on how a verse looks from the outside. As this video has made it clear. "Can" look as though it's a monstrous dictatorship narcissism.
I was her son. I know the correct and "helpful" perspectives.
Disregarding helpful directives, simply because of not truly grasping how they help the world, is unhelpful for my Mom.
I pray the Lord opens your eyes to see his goodness.
My Mom wins this time.
Because of God may she always win. Amen.
It is.
@@Ordinal_Yoda Was it Abraham that tried to whore his wife out when they almost arrested him? Was it also he that offered his two virgin daughters to be gang raped by the crowd? These things are objectively harsh for women to read.
I've been reading it and it really isnt😅 men have had it just as rough in the OT, and if the women are especially treated unfairly then it's a problem with man as a whole living in a fallen world
So the chicken verse proves Calvinism wrong …. 🤦♀️
I used to be a very fervent and devoted believer and it was the study of the Bible that lead me out of the faith. Most of my life was spent listening to preachers but once I was ready for the next step, I started listening to biblical scholars. Unfortunately I learned too much and had no choice but to let go of the faith I held so dear.
Luke said: Jesus said "Thank You Father, that you give your Kingdom to those with the trusting hearts of little children, and keeping it from the intellectuals of this world".
@@lizh1988thank you for sharing that. I didn't remember that verse correctly but I remember that basic idea. It's a very simple answer 😁
@@Jessica-gs1hv My favorite verse!
I had a very similar experience. The more I read the more questions I asked and the less answers I got.
Typical answer that you have to have faith. But biblical scholars who are mostly Christian by the way say the Bible is not Devine in origin and the facts don't hold water.
And rightly she says that what is said in the Bible is contradictory so where is the truth.
@@lizh1988And that's what I call an blind-believer
“Text out of context is pretext not prooftext.”
You are correct in emphasizing that a specific text must be consider within both immediate context AND context of the whole Bible.
Here is wisdom: “Text out of context is pretext not prooftext.”
A text without a context is a pretext for a prooftext ;)
Kristi's channel is great for people who left Christianity but are still healing from it.
Yes many left the faith due to believing in their own understanding, not God's or had bad experiences with the religion in a whole. Some Christians don't show good fruits but those don't make God bad in anyway. Can't blame him for things humans do.
@@kraftyval2162 Several years ago I looked into the "exvangelical" movement to try to understand why people left their faith. I thought that it might be that they never were saved, but they all had solid salvation stories, so it wasn't that. But they did speak to their spiritual upbringing and the problem became readily apparent. Allen talked to this, but all these people had "weeds" for mentors and became spiritually stunted. None were brought up in the Word because no one around them had read the Bible, let alone understood it. They finally left in frustration, and like a kite with a broken string, they randomly floated to "The Current Thing" and embraced that.
@@kraftyval2162 Personally, I do not blame God for anything. I just do not think there is any such thing as "God". How can you blame a non-existing entity?
@@kraftyval2162You can if you're a Calvinist.
This reply makes sense if you are truly an unbeliever. Why would you argue about a fantasy?@@erikt1713
This man has no understanding of what the lady is talking about. A good and perfect all-powerful God will have no reason to use imperfect or immoral means to handle any situation..
Exactly, and He doesn't
Did you expect him to?
Believers are likely to show bias towards their beliefs. I’m not surprised.
Why should I believe a book written people who are "supposedly" born of sin?
Why should you believe a book written by sinful people? Let me try and explain here: "The Bible's 66 books - 39 in the Old Testament and 27 in the New Testament - are written by 40 different authors over a period of 1,500 years. These authors lived in different places and different times, with different cultures. They had many different occupations and lifestyles, but the focus of what they have written is the same - to reveal God's heart and will for mankind."
@karenallen5208 Actually, you're wrong. There are more than 66 books of the bible. 54 books were removed. Those missing books make up the Apocrypha. Now your reply still doesn't satisfy the question that was asked of you. " The authors" are still sinners. The authors are still mere men who write The bible bassed off of other translation and interpreted documents of people before them. The stories in the bible are stories handed down from generation to generation. No spirit, no god. Just people writing whatever the hell they want based on their own thoughts, beliefs, and traditions. Then, gullible people like you, go around believing this BS is true.
@@karenallen5208 see that's the problem with the bible "to reveal God to people", if that was so important, don't you think an all powerful being could have done something better to reveal themselves to everyone without a book(s)? Why base an entire eternal state of existence of billions of people based on whether they're convinced by the events of a book, entrusting that information on the very thing that messed the whole thing up from the very beginning is even more problematic?
@@Joei2049 The Bible is not the ONLY way God reveals himself to us. He sent the Holy Spirit to guide us. Read John 14:25-26. The Holy Spirit is like the wind -- when you repent to God and ask Jesus to be your Lord and savior, the Holy Spirit enters your life. He's like the wind, you can't see where He comes from or where He goes, but you will feel his presence. The Bible and the law were given to us for guidance. If we didn't know the law, we would not know if we're sinning against God. God created us for his companionship. He never forces Himself on anyone. He wants us to follow Him of our own free will. You can understand that if you thought your parents forced you to love them. They don't -- they want you to love them because they brought you into the world and first loved you. This is the truth about our loving God.
@@Joei2049 25 “I have told you this while I’m still with you. 26 However, the helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, will teach you everything. He will remind you of everything that I have ever told you.
Good video brother Allen, Romans 9 is a tough one. Also, praying your facebook situation is resolved🙏🏾
I come from a Christian upbringing within a devout family. However, last year, I found myself on the brink of losing my faith. Yet, in a powerful intervention, God made it clear that I was not meant to stray. This encounter with God was unlike any other I've had, and I hope everyone gets to experience it because it feels like being born again. Jesus, I cherish you. Thank you for rescuing my soul. Amen.
Could you tell me how it felt?
@ilih5487 theres no words that can.explain that feeling
Meaning it’s bullshit. See I’ve had an experience with God, or whatever created this reality we’re in. I prayed one night during a dark time and asked for a sign. I met a man the next day who pointed me to the Bible. I know God is real, but you will never be able to convince me that He is good. I’ll give Him respect, but He is not worthy of my love.
What was your experience if you don't mind me asking? I've been in prayer myself for a loved one.
Salvation is what that is, maybe you never fully trusted in Christ until this experience! I always say head knowledge of the bible is good for our knowledge and understanding! But heart knowledge is what saves and keeps you preserved in Christ!
Equating kids not getting candy to those same kids being sent to hell forever just shows how wrongheaded your thinking is. I’m out.
You are foolish💀💀💀
The thing you're failing to understand is that humans, by nature were a fallen race, so he'll was already the destination but the idea is that God sent us to earth in order to give us a chance to make our way back to righteousness/him
@@remingtonbeats335 Nope.
Give who a chance? According to the principle being presented the kids without candy never had a chance.
@@remingtonbeats335 Allen(and God according to the bible actually) literally contradicts himself there. First he says how God controls/manipulates you so there is no choice, then he says how we have the free-will to make a choice.
Literally believing in anything else gives the same effect as Christainity, including other religions. They make you feel purposful, and right when you fully believe you are no matter the religion. That is why atheism is often compared to religion. I just choose to be agnostic on it all.
@@torresilk4277 I’m not speaking for his bad analogy I’m just speaking to the human condition brought up in this topic
Authoritarianism, Vindictiveness, Jealousy, Impatience, Favoritism, Aggression, Inconsistency. While these traits might reflect the complex nature of divine behaviour in the theological context, they would be considered indicators of unhealthy behaviour in a human psychological analysis.
So true
@@darrylhall9503At some point they weren't. Morals aren't a naturally occurring trait. I wonder where you got them from?
@@remingtonbeats335 Exodus 20: 20-21 20 “Anyone who beats their male or female slave with a rod must be punished if the slave dies as a direct result, 21 but they are not to be punished if the slave recovers after a day or two, since the slave is their property.
Is this one of the morals you speak of?
Healthy developed humans & many animals have empathy.
this earned a subscription from me. you are definitely a great teacher / orator. you make loving God, despite these difficult passages, easy.
Allen, you miss-quote almost everything Ms. Burke says so you can spin your argument to suit your doctrinal narratives. You never explain her criticism directly, but you invent something else to rebut as though your listeners cannot perceive what you are doing. Your objective is to pacify the people who would listen to Ms Burke's concerns with the Christian narratives as written in the Holy Bible. You cannot wash away the words in scripture with creative word play. The simplest way to deal with the problems scriptures present is to acknowledge that they were written by MEN. God did not write any of them. End of story!
You are absolutely right and the fact that he did it like that says a lot!
He reminds me of thos sci-fi buffs who cook up crazy justifications to explain away what are nothing more than silly screw-ups and inconsistencies by the writers.
Men WROTE DOWN the words but GOD is the author of the Bible. According to scripture the Word is God-breathed, (by God)
It’s no different than someone wanting to write a book and hiring someone else to write the words down.
And concerning “controversial scripture”, one example:
There is an order in marriage, just like there’s an order at work, or in government. The husband is the head of the home because someone has to be. Doesn’t mean a woman can’t have a different opinion, but if a final decision has to be made, the husband would be responsible for the outcome, and he’d be more accountable for making a bad decision.
A husband’s role is in many ways harder than the woman’s. If she submits, and he’s wrong, he gets the blame.
And at work there are supervisors, office managers, etc…. There are CEO’s who make decisions and pass them down, But if he’s wrong, he will be responsible, not the guy who just got hired or the guy in the mailroom. So he usually has the sole responsibility for any bad decisions that hurt the company
I’m a woman in a traditional marriage.
My husband is very supportive of me, but when it comes to major decisions, he always takes my opinion into account, but when he makes the final decision, if he makes the wrong one, then he gets all the blame.
But let me make it clear, no man better abuse his wife, because God says “Men, love your wives”
Abuse is not love and God is not okay with domestic abuse, of spouses or children, and a woman should do what keeps her and her children safe.
God is against divorce, but that doesn’t mean he wants a man to abuse his wife or children, and divorce is not the ultimate sin, as long as theres a valid reason, such as adultery of a partner, or ongoing abuse. Divorce causes a lot of pain, especially to children, but abusing a child or them watching their father abuse their mother and can’t do a thing about it, causes even more pain. Sometimes divorce is choosing between the lesser of two evils.
He said he hates divorce because it hurts people, and often especially children, but he gave valid grounds, he said except in adultery, because then vows have been broken. BUT, VOWS are also broken if a man who promised to love his wife, at the altar, physically abuses her, he too has broken his wedding vows, even if he never committed adultery.
He's delusional. I can't listen past 5:57.
What? You mean someone misinterpreted what she said, just like how she misinterpreted the Bible. Well, how the turn has tabled now hasn't it?
I kid you not a few weeks ago I was looking up what people say against the Bible and saw her video and some things she said really stumped me. Didn’t shake my faith I just wanted to find out how to get the answers I needed. Allen thank you so much my man! God bless you!
Doubt in a believer most of the time leads to even greater faith I think
@@lf1899 most definitely agree!
Thank you for breaking her thoughts down, brother Allen! God bless you and may God continue to give you more knowledge & wisdom!
I pray that she sees this 🙏🙏🙏🙏. She clearly has some issues. I love when people defend the word of God. Beautiful amen
She is right. Stop making wordgymnastics because you can't handle the truth.
Exactly 💯
Right about what point, which of his rebuttals was incorrect?
@@RaffieFaffie All of them
@@RaffieFaffie His very first point is a lie. He claims that god doesn't condone unaliving children, when he literally does that numerous times in the bible. He even does it himself numerous times.
Allan Parr is just a run of the mill apologist. Dishonest to the bone.
@@RaffieFaffietbf I’ve only heard the second point because I watched it over on Professor Plinks channel but he goes on to say that the psalm in question didn’t suggest that god was okay with the killing of enemy babies when you’re wronged when he literally ordered the genocide of the Caananites alongside their children and, you guessed it, babies. there is no way he is incorrect about that as an apologist by accident: he lied.
The thing with rape is that women often times can‘t cry for help cause they are paralyzed by shock and fear. So it‘s incredibly naive to say it was consensual cause she didn’t cry for help.
They might also have a weapon like a knife or a gun to their throat or head. They might have a child sleeping in the next room. It’s very arrogant to assume someone asked for it just because they didn’t scream or fight.
Exactly, the whole thing about her not calling for help isn’t about consensual sex.
You guys really think Kristi Burke doesn't know all of these things. You forget she was an evangelical Christian for over 20 years. She knows exactly what she is talking about.
Well... her words tell another story :)
Not saying that to be mean, but as one of the comments said. Ahe was quite alone with her thoughts and from my point of view didn't really consider discussing those problems she ha with scripture with someone who actually had answers.
@@VespasianOfTheThird just because someone has answers, that does not mean those answers are true and factual. The bible is not factual, is it the claims.
That is true but he was also a Christian and still is would his words not hold more weight useing your logic?
@@piercelee9421 no, my logic and so many other peoples' logic would hold much more weight than his words. There just is no supernatural in this physical world as there "was" in the bible.
@@RayCamacho-m2e you said she knows what she is talking about because she was a Christian, I said if that is true someone who was a Christian for longer would have more value in his words. I was not trying to disprove atheism as a whole but your point you made as it is dumb.
Its scary how she's trying to convince people to not believe in God. She seems like a very intellegent, articulate woman and prayerfully she comes (back) to Christ.
Did she ever know Him to begin with? I truly believe if you sincerely believe you will NEVER give Jesus up…that doesn’t mean that we ALL don’t need repentance we can’t say I’m sorry and keep up our sins but to honestly try our BEST to live each day with Him in mind ….. and the love and yes fear of Him🙏🙏🙏
@@annairwin8147 Very true.
@@morgansouthworth2894 Voia Ta - BBSO SONG ROMANIA This is actually a poem. However the man of God who put this into song, he was tortured in the Romanian communist prison at the time God gave him the power to make this into a song. Voiata Ta meaning YOUR WILL
Brother what part of Christianity do you believe? There are over 33 thousand brands of Christianity not to mention Catholics.
I believe in a Supreme God but not the one written by the Bible. Religion keeps women almost as slaves. That is the God I believe in. Sorry.
She never will let it go
Man, it really hurt my heart to hear her saying those things and twisting scripture. Thank you for this video Pastor Parr. Praying for her and all of us as we navigate life with the help of Heavenly Father, our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, and Holy Spirit!! 🙏🏽❤️🙏🏽
Go to a 3rd world country where they basically have no laws and allow all the worst things imaginable and tell them about “God’s Mercy.” If God has so much mercy then why does he allow soooooo much suffering. Doesn’t make sense at all to me. If it doesn’t make sense to my human mind please tell me how that can make sense to an all knowing, all good, and all loving god?
You nailed it
exactly, why would an infinitly/ all loving god even conceive of an idea of pain, for humans or animals, it just doesn't make sense
What a disappointment, I actually took the time to watch this video because I heard that you had made some compelling counterpoints to Kristi Burke's video. Nothing you stated, and I mean NOTHING, debunks what she said, or justifies what those bible verses state. I was pretty sure I was in for a disappointment right off the bat when you attempted to justify Romans 9 verse, God is under no moral obligation to extend to us salvation!!?? I would argue that it is completely immoral to offer a creature you created eternal salvation without a clear path, or way to achieve that salvation, by testing them in so many different immoral ways, when again, they have no clear set of rules or guidelines to go by. If you say god has no obligation to be moral himself, they why is it said we are created in his image, or why does he want his creations to be moral if that attribute is not something he holds as a cherished attribute personally.
Your analogy about the teacher and rewarding candy to the students was just god awful, no pun intended, first, they do have obligations to their students. A teacher is obligated to educating their students, or in a bigger sense, imparting them with knowledge that will help them navigate the world around them as an adult when they venture out on their own, no? So the mere fact of bribing them with a candy reward if they behave in the proper way, by the rules she's laid out, is already teaching them that morality is interchangeable with rules.
Being kind to your neighbors, or helping the less fortunate, or not stealing things that don't belong to you should be considered selfless acts, that help others suffer less and enjoy life more, leading to a more prosperous enlightened and happy society. Going by your logic or your gods logic, those things are only done in order to get a prize at the end, you wrap it all up with a nice little bow and call it morality. It is a good analogy for Christianity as a whole, which uses personal satisfaction, one might even say greed, in order to get people to act in a manor, and live their life as the religion sees fit. That's not morality, let's not get it twisted, morality is a very personal thing, two people that live next door to each other, and are good friends, could have very different moral values. Basically the teacher is teaching her kids to only do something if there is something in it for them, and that is no way to send a child out into the world.
There are many other flaws in just that analogy alone, but they, as the rest of your video is too much to get into, you are simply another Christian apologist, and a poor one at that, I have heard far more convincing and intelligent apologies or explanations of the Christian faith, than the drivel that you laid out, do you ever have nontheists on your channel to debate, or give counter points?? I doubt it, any of them with half a brain would your shred your nonsense to pieces. Good day sir.
Bro, you’ve knocked this one out of the park! Pure logic, and excellently clear reasoning. I wouldn’t have put it any better myself.
Thanks
@cliffchadwicker ..Thank you sir!
Hello Sun,
Just wanted to add a comment on your post. I want to start off with agreeing with you on some of your points when it comes to his analogies. Watching the video I was very confused and disagreed with certain points, but in my opinion making analogies between humans and God can be tricky due to how God and humans relationship work. So I won't really talk about the analogies because they were poorly made unless you want to.
What caught my eye was when you said nothing debunks or justifies those bible verses. I won't go over all the points, but I thought third verse was pretty clearly debunked. The translation here was pretty bad, and even using the same translation from prior verses, we get 2 conflicting messages. One were we are told that adultery (and rape) is a sin punishable by death, and a couple verses later you can pay for your rape and get a wife? Looking at the context of the chapter and also looking at different translations, it is clear that the rape to get wife pipeline is definitely not what was intended here.
Like I said earlier, I don't agree with everything that was said in this video, but I disagree with the notion that everything Kristi was right. If you want to go in more detail about the species we can, I just thought I'd add my two cents. Have a good day.
@@ashtonrene1524Wrong and you didn't pay attention to the verses... Adultery and rape is only punishable by death to a woman that is betrothed or married... It is not punishable by death to a woman who is NOT betrothed or married... This is why the Bible is clearly misogynistic in many of its laws... It's only a punishment of death when it violates a woman who has already entered into a contract with a man... If that woman is a virgin who HAS NOT BEEN PLEDGED to be married, then the rules are different... The man who rapes her doesn't get put to death... Instead he just only pay her father fifty shekels of silver... Essentially a fine and then he must take her as his wife for life... This is disgusting and immoral... And Parr willfully ignored that fact as he was reading the prior verses that are very clear.
@@Hieiman
Hello Hiei,
Yes the verse is talking about non-married /engaged women. I brought up the prior verses within the same translation more to show that this seems to be the outlier on God’s stance due to the translation. God takes rape seriously, as we see here.
The NLT isn’t the only translation that says grape here; there are 11 other translations that use the same word. The problem with these translations is that all these versions fall under “thought for thought” or “paraphrasing“ instead of word for word translations (this information was obtained by the 56 translations available on Bible Hub).
The issue with translating Hebrew to English is how many of their words have multiple meanings. The first half of the verse in question is: כִּֽי־יִמְצָ֣א אִ֗ישׁ נַעֲרָ֤ בְתוּלָה֙ אֲשֶׁ֣ר לֹא־אֹרָ֔שָׂה וּתְפָשָׂ֖הּ וְשָׁכַ֣ב עִמָּ֑הּ וְנִמְצָֽאוּ׃
Which can roughly translate to: “If a man comes upon a virgin who is not engaged and he seizes her and lies with her, and they are discovered,”
The important part is the part “they are discovered.“. Adultery only gets discovered because the people involved do not report it themselves. Grape would have the victim report it hence in the earlier verse talking about consensual experiences (verse 23 “If a man is found lying with another man’s wife…”) they find out about it but when it comes grape there’s no reference to this.
Another point for this is looking at the original law in Exodus (Deuteronomy, or “repetition”) when it comes to unwed adultery. Exodus 22:16: “If a man seduces a virgin for whom the bride-price has not been paid, and lies with her, he must make her his wife by payment of a bride-price.”
With all these points, I believe it points to this being the original intent and not the mistranslation (why would seducing and grape have the same punishment when we saw the info from above?). Lastly, this point wasn’t brought up, but I think it makes the situation more clear. The woman isn't forced to marry him if she doesn’t want to (or her father if she is a minor). The following verse “If her father refuses to give her to him, he must still weigh out silver in accordance with the bride-price for virgins.“
The law was put in place to make sure that men couldn’t just sleep with whoever they wanted; if the woman wanted to marry him, he’d have to pay her and her family, and if she didn't, he’d still have to pay her a huge sum. All decisions for the man are stripped from him and given to the woman (or her family). I hope this made my original point clearer. Have a good day.
1 John 2:19 (ESV): 19 They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would have continued with us. But they went out, that it might become plain that they all are not of us.
I feel the same way brother 🙏🏿 Jesus is the reason for staying in the faith! Truly knowing his love, it's impossible to walk away from that! Head knowledge doesn't mean you know Jesus! It's knowing him in your heart that saves you! We've all had questions about some passages but my conclusion was to understand them, not to use them as a means to "allegedly," turn away from the faith! Whether we fully understand or not is irrelevant, because we must accept that God is sovereign, and he knows better then us! She doesn't understand or can't understand because she's exalted herself over God!
God hates esau (white peoples) Roman 9:13 kjv
Obadiah 1:18kjv
Isaiah 14:21 kjv
Jeremiah 14:2 kjv
Lamentation 4:10
Job 30:30 kjv
The real Jew are black,Latino and Indian
"I just came up with a better solution than God could". Says everything right there.
Anyone with basic empathy could come up with a better solution than the pathetic god of the bible.
it also says a lot when allan says
"That's not what that verse means... HERE IS WHAT IT MEANS"
so the bible is not clear for all to see
WE NEED TO ALLAN TO TELL US WHAT IT MEANS ? right ?
The guy who said
STONING TO DEATH................. I SEE ABSOLUTELY NO PROBLEM WITH ANY OF THAT
I walked away from the faith for 10 years. I've been back for over a year. So grateful for his mercy and God's grace.
@@GameFreak4Ever bless you 🙏✝️❤️
I did that too. But I kept looking, searching, trying to find the truth. Don't worry, your renewed faith won't last for more than a couple years, at best. May I suggest reading the Bible, from cover-to-cover. If this really is the "divinely inspired words," of your God and your, "lord and savior," do you think, "Maybe. Just maybe," you should read the friggin' book!?
@@firecat3613 You are asking to much from these people. They don't believe in things like reading. Education taints the soul. 🤣
God bless you brother. I hope this is the situation that Christy finds herself in right now. She's still young her life is not over so she may still be in the mercy of God's hands. I just hope that she comes back before it's too late for her
@@UnidadFamiliarCristiana thanks!
Wow 😢 I am so emotional especially towards the end. Thank you brother Allen for doing this video. May God continue to use you in a mighty way to proclaim truth. I pray and I know light will surely overcome darkness 🙏
God asked for human sacrifices in the bible too. The main blood sacrifice was his on son Jesus. You cant call another religion/Gods/ humans evil without calling the Christian God evil to for human sacrifices. This is craziness.
The wages of sin is death, if you commit sin you are under the law. The death of Jesus was to pay that debt for all of mankind, once you accept Jesus you are NO LONGER under the law. It’s the new covenant, he already paid the life debt by sacrificing Himself. God sacrificed Himself so that we could live free of sin, because no persons, not one human being could ever live sin free, except for Jesus, that’s what we call grace. It wasn’t human sacrifice, because Jesus wasn’t just a human. He was with God in the beginning. He is the Living Word of God. So you are not exactly correct, and you are definitely cherry picking yourself.
@@Travis7x70 It is nonsense with a certain logical consistency between its elements.
The worst outcome is that some Christians think they can do whatever given that their debt was prepaid. Some argue that repentance is required, but that does not fix it either. As a Christian you can sleep with another man's wife without danger to your eternal soul. It can always be fixed if you repent later.
@@Travis7x70 So if I commit a crime and then get someone else to take the blame, then I’m innocent of that crime?
@@markewing10 that isn’t even consistent with what I am saying. It’s more than someone took the penalty for you, not that you pinned it on someone else. You do require repentance to learn from the sin and try and grow to be more Christ like and sin less. But Ewing no it’s not like that at all. We aren’t blaming anyone else for our sin, we are not even trying to blame our sins on anyone else, we own up to our sin, admit our fault and grow from it. Jesus agrees to pay that sentence of death so that we may take the knowledge and become better people
No candies is not an appropriate comparison to ETERNAL TORTURE
Where in the bible is hell eternal?
@@Magister195So we can't listen to what Christians say about the Bible? Because most Christians tell atheists hell is eternal separation & torment.
@@utubepunk most of them never even touched a bible I'm just saying there isn't any verses about hell being eternal
@@Magister195 Most Christian pastors, preachers, priests, etc teach hell is eternal and base that on biblical passages.
"Eternal torture" would actually be known as your own self-deserved karma, not what God does to anyone...
Thank You Allen !! I needed to hear this message after listening to her a few days ago.
So you are cherry picking the Bible. You never even addressed her actual argument. You just tossed it aside. 🤣
You just said you believe you are better than others regardless of your actions. If you consider god good because he saves a few people from eternal suffering then he is evil and you are evil for worshiping those ideas.
Yes the teacher is wrong this is an unreachable goal. You are teaching kids that their best isn't good enough.
Why would you care though in your logic you disguise hate as love. You have no morals if they are based around god.
Whether you think God is evil or not is irrelevant. The fact is that he exists and he has established a path for you to go to heaven. If you don't like it, too bad. Reality doesn't care.
@@theplasmacollider6431 Then prove it. Your entire ideology is based around faith. So where do you get off telling me I'm not being logical. I've based my world around the physical science we can prove. You don't understand what that even means.
@@JB77776 Which physical sciences are you talking about, electromagnetics, fluid dynamics? I base my world view around those.
@@theplasmacollider6431 No you don't. You might think you do but you can't justify a world built around faith and then also accept scientific theory without contradicting yourself. Your entire view on reality is fallacious.
@@theplasmacollider6431REALITY?!?! 😂😂😂😂 that’s actually laughable… you’re the one not living in reality if you believe there is even an ounce of proof of that tribal war god without trying to reference that fictional book of yours ..
Christian apologists always have a convoluted "explanation"!
I’ve watched her videos I’m surprised you found this babe lol. I’ll say I’m always keeping an eye on people who lose their faith and why. And for some of her arguments they are easily refutable. Glad to see this I’ll be interested to see where it goes!
32:05 And here I am going to ask you to stand down, Mr Parr, while I educate YOU. I tell you with all authority that you are WRONG about the R-word! The verb in the original Hebrew for "to take hold of" when used in conjunction with the verb "to lie with" and when talking about a person, ALWAYS means the forcible seizure of that person against their will. I suggest you go and learn Hebrew (and Greek, etc) before presenting yourself as a know-all expert on ancient texts.
It is well. Believing in God is way better than the alternative.
Thx for enlightening us Pst @AllenParr Bless you
How so?
You forgot “in my opinion”
That’s not belief, that’s clutching at straws.
Well said, Kirsti! Nailed it 👏
....is this sarcastic?
@@dragonheart2403😂😂😂 if this was a debate, Mr Allen lost.
I've seen several comments about people losing their faith due to searching for reasons to disbelieve, wanting to play God or even claiming they were never believers to begin with. While I can't speak for Kristi, I can speak from my own experiences growing up in a Christian house hold my entire life. I have been surrounded by the word of God since birth, was saved at 7 years old and experienced complete and total faith in God for years. However, after experiencing countless arguments on how to interpret the bible, what's in context and what's out of context, attending churches ranging from reformed, to baptist, to charismatic, honestly I just am so worn and tired. The faith I once had that never faltered has slowly dimmed over time, and it is the worst pain imaginable. BELIEVE me when I say I have no desire to abandon God and that I want to have full faith in him because he is the security I have had my entire life. I believe many people questioning their faith are coming from a place of confusion, feeling betrayed by fellow Christians and questioning who is telling the actual truth. It can feel impossible to sift through the countless arguments, interpretations and opinions of scripture. I can't count the amount of times I've wished I could just erase all of the doubts that have plagued me, because the last thing I want is an existence without God. Having Christians claim I'm seeking reasons to not believe God makes the pain even worse because I never wanted any of this.
To me they are rejecting the Holy Spirit when they believe but still don’t want to except that he is God and not them !!that was the reason Satan was thrown out of heaven. Thats unpardonable sin!! God speaks about the only transgression God will never forgive!!!
Yes I have questions sometimes I can’t understand but the spirit guides me and we aren’t meant to understand everything but to trust our Heavenly Father!!We just believe and trust him on his promises
Put your faith in Christ and in Christ alone!!! Seek the truth yourself along with what you should already know about God! Have you not a testimony? Has he not answered any of your prayers? Knowledge of God can't save us, knowing him intimately as, "Father," is what saves us!
Jasmine, I suggest you stop listening to ANY voices. Just open your bible and read. Start with the certain belief that God is good and loves you. Let it be just you and the Lord.
There are too many voices speaking nowadays. It makes it hard to hear the Lord for ourselves. Ask the Lord to reveal Himself to you before you begin reading. He really just wants a relationship with you above all else.
Exactly. They assert your ignorance and unwillingness to believe. The truth is, if the Religion and it’s dogmas are based on reality and facts, we wouldn’t need to believe.
Sorry, but your examples are horrible.
The teacher did not [intentionally] create the children imperfect and then blame them. The students are aware, i.e. they can all physically see the teacher, that, yes in-fact, this is MY teacher. And the win/loss is candy vs eternal hell fire - not comparable.
Your journey example - you can teach your children about GPS and inform them about your decision to pivot, so not comparable. Who are we to understand God's plan? We are God's children and if we cannot understand "the plan", then the planner is flawed. We could have be created such that we can understand "the plan". What a horrible view - a roundabout way of dismissing that people are created for the sole purpose of fueling hellfire....
Sorry, I stopped watching, doesn't seem like it's worth my time at this point.
I was listening too and these were my thoughts, this was not a good explanation and i have yet to find a good one.
@@tiffybl00bs99 parr is disgusting, he's basically making it okay to take slaves and sex slaves, as long as you can pretend god says it's okay, it's okay. it's NEVER okay.
Thank you! Thank you!
Her asking me to set a 1 minute timer for not to believe in God made me really upset, because before I was saved I was always angry and even self harming I could never in my life let go my love for Jesus
These people don't care about you. They don't do this out of love. They don't do this because they think it will make you happier, or bring you any joy. This is done with malicious intent. When does declaring there is no god ever bring you joy, hope, purpose, or compel you to love your neighbor and help the homeless? It doesn't. She cares about only one thing, and it isn't you, it's herself. She doesn't want you to feel the joy or love you can only receive from the Holy Spirit. She wants to suck all the love you have gained from Jesus out of you. She wants you to be miserable and think like her. She has one goal, and that is to inflate her own arrogance and sense of self importance. That's it.
Once you know the truth,it is impossible to turn away and not believe it. I would be lying to myself.
@@shannonharrison7711 When you say "Once you know the truth" I think you meant to say once you *think* that you know the truth. Three quarters of the worlds population don't believe what Christians believe. I'm guessing that isn't the truth. There is certainly no good evidence for it being true, though the same can be said for all the other magical mythical creatures out there also. There is equal evidence for the existence of fairies as there is for Jesus, Brahman and Allah. Loads of people turn away from believing in things that there is no good evidence for. How many billions of kids turn away from Santa and the tooth fairy?
I agree! One minute without Him would be Hell
I love how everyone in this thread so far, except for potentially one person, completely missed the point of the challenge. It is to show that belief isn't a choice that you can just toggle on and off willingly. It has nothing to do with giving up love, hope, peace, or joy.
God is God and His will be done. Obeying His commandments is only what is required of us not cross-examine Him.❤
I Agree
but
The bible is not god's word
The commandments in the bible are not his commandments
SO , Even though i agree you follow his commandments
YOU FIRST NEED TO FIND THEM AND WHERE THEY ARE
I had difficulty too regarding marrying one’s attacker. Thank you for this video, please make more of these.
you need more excuses to cover the immorality, is that it?
Tha first time I read my bible from cover to cover, I did have some thoughts of His 'ways', but after reading the bible I can sum it up to one word. LOVE. God's love, mercy, patience and awesomeness is displayed all throughout. I am now in my 2nd round of reading the bible cover to cover and will continue to read it again and again.
Amen! ❤
Reading Old Testament made me declare YHWH as the Satan and not good for society however New Testament God is love and the creator but YHWH is counterfeit
Don't forget to read the part where god gave us rules for slavery instead of prohibiting it.
And the part where God loved the king so much that he murdered a bunch of women and children to show him the error of his ways. Truly a loving god!!
Of all the passages to cause someone to lose their faith, John 3:16 is the most surprising.
I find it hardly surprising though that much of the time, there is a disconnect of each of those verses from the rest of the Word of God. I wish her well though. . .
Thanks for covering this, Allen! God bless!
It does not change who God is, nor does it change his character demonstrated in Christ Jesus
I can see why John 3:16 is troubling. Child sacrifice is terribly immoral and doesn't forgive sins. A truly powerful God could have found a better way to break the rule he made.
@@ryanrevland4333 Sin is so terrible and so wicked in the eyes of our God, who is gracious and compassionate towards all that he made and at the same time righteous and just, that it took sending his Son Jesus (God in the flesh, so really the giving of God HIMSELF) to make a full atonement of the sin of the whole world; would you rather you took the cross yourself? Or the prospect of facing Him on Judgment Day?
As for the child sacrifice thing, Allen covered that when talking about the driving out of nations in the land to be given to the Israelites at that time; those nations were notably wicked for many things including child sacrifice, hence driven out by God. God still hates child sacrifice, and he hates sin altogether.
How much more wonderful the love of our God demonstrated through the cross! Jesus died AND is alive!!!
@thetruedaoster8863 The problem is that human sacrifice doesn't atone for sins. This is a barbaric ritual and Christians need to realize how immoral this practice is. There is no original sin that requires a blood sacrifice.
John 3:16 says God loved us so much he murdered his own son. Normal people are appalled by this. Killing your children is not an act of love.
“Would you rather take the cross yourself?” If you're speaking metaphorically then…yes. If I'm guilty of a crime then it's immoral to punish someone else for it. Especially if it's my only son!
@@ryanrevland4333 Human sacrifice does not atone for sins, that is true. But God sacrificed himself (in the person of Jesus, who is God in the flesh). "There is no original sin that requires a blood sacrifice", that is not entirely true. In the Garden of Eden, in Chapter 3 of Genesis, we are told that sin entered into the world, which God had made (and the world was very good before Chapter 3). God made a good world, but mankind has messed it up by turning away from God. That is sin.
Normal people are appalled by sin, and rightly so. God didn't exactly kill his Son by his own hand alone; it was the wickedness of man's hearts (as a result of our sin) that killed him. Jesus warned them of that through the Parable of the Vineyard Tenants; Jesus waned them that they would reject him and ultimately kill - and sure enough they did. And yet God worked through that all to bring about our redemption. It does not make crucifixion or child sacrifice any less horrific; however the sin we collective committed against our holy God (who gave us life) means that there is no way humanity can atone for our sin. Also, God's ways are far higher than ours; we cannot equate our human 'morality' to the same level as God's morality.
Finally, I didn't entirely mean metaphorically about taking the punishment yourself (though understandably I could've meant that too). God is still patient with us, wanting ALL to repent and turn to him for forgiveness.
We owed a debt that we cannot pay (even for our own sin, or 'crime'); God paid the debt that he did NOT owe - and He did it all in Himself.
We may not know everything about God, or why He chose to do things the way He did, but in Christ Jesus we know enough about Him that we can trust Him to reign (He at least does it better than we ever could).
I won't pretend I answered your objections in the way you'd want to hear or such that it satisfies you, but I hope and pray that you would see that our God loves us amazingly, even we are at our most unloveable. . . .He demonstrated that through Jesus, who lives AND reigns!
@thetruedaoster8863 I appreciate your thoughtful response. These conversations are important not just for us but others reading this exchange and forming their own opinions.
I believe Christianity has layers of immoral premises. The first one is the concept of original sin that you mentioned. Born guilty and deserving of punishment.
It's like standing before a judge and being sentenced to death for a crime that your ancestor committed. Even worse, there's no evidence this “crime” ever occurred and has all the hallmarks of mythology.
The second is the proposition of vicarious redemption. After the judge sentences you to death he brings out his innocent child and shoots him in the head. Then He turns to you and says, “That's how much I love you. You're free to go.”
Lastly is the idea that if you don't believe premise one and two, then you will be tortured for eternity. For atheists, this is an empty threat because we find the whole system absurd. The real damage occurs to the believer who views society through this lens. When you believe that billions of Jews, Muslims, and Hindus are deserving of eternal torture, that will have a negative effect on your mental health.
Please do more. I foundvthis lady today today and what she said left me so sad. Then i found your video reacting to hers and you helped me understand and ferl better. Have a good day😊
Why would a god, who created you, need you to defend a book?
We don't need to. But we are concerned about others who may be mislead.
@@peterwallis4288who is “we”?
@@cliffchadwicker Christians in general.
@@peterwallis4288 god: "thou shalt not kill" also god: "go kill the canaanites, men, women, children, animals" anyone who can justify that
hypocrisy is sick minded.
anyone who says "god can kill you because he created you" is sick minded.
god: no trial, no jury of peers, no right to counsel, one crime (what sin was the entire world committing at the flood?)
and one sentence, to burn, after being drowned of course - if you think that is just and fair, you are sick.
even better, why would he have created a book in the first place.
he could just write the information in our minds and hearts so that we all know
Why would an all knowing, all powerful, and especially an all loving God make it so complicated to understand.
Why does it take analogy and rhetoric to explain the word of God?
Christians just don't "get it.' They're in their own brainwashed world 🙄
Thank You
I'm sorry but typical Calvinistic explanations do not adequately answer this ladies concerns. If Calvanism theology is true then she's completely justified in her assessments and she's actually being more logically consistent
Praying for her. That this same book that has caused her to lose her faith, is the same book that will open her eyes and bring her back to faith in the creator of the universe. ❤
I don't know, I'm losing my faith and the more I read it gets worse, I genuinely don't see how this book could make anyone who actually reads it believe in a good God.
I wish it helped but, it really doesn't
We don’t need to understand everything that God does, His ways are greater than our ways, but He always acts out of love and we need to trust that He knows what He’s doing
Choosing to allow someone to be born just for the purpose for them to suffer eternal hell fire isn't love. Justice for not believing in him...who didn't give me faith to believe in him...and then punishing me because HE DIDN'T choose me....not of my own choice....what kind of love is that?
Sure, but you said he always acts out of love. But do you understand why people who don't want to believe what you believe? Because when you look at passages when God told the Israelites to kill the infants of the Amalekites, those were innocent kids. They're babies, aren't they? And Christians today are all about being passionate about being pro-life. I mean, come on. It's hypocritical.
Primitive humans invented gods to control and extort others.
@@timjohnson1646 It is God’s will that everyone comes to Him and that none will perish, but it is our choice
@@donnatrounson8973Amen❤
Not receiving sweets versus being slain by God. That is a bad analogy.
Agreed. Terrible analogy for adults. Maybe he thinks most of his viewers are children? Or maybe just sheep?
I am almost 77 years old, was ‘saved’ at the age of 23 and spent decades and both volunteer and professional ministry in one of the largest conservative denominations in the United States.
I applaud Kristi Burke for questioning the basic teachings of Christianity.
It is a religion which the first part of God, (the father) creates human beings and allows them to sin; and punishes them and all of their descendants for that sin.
Then the first part of God has the third part of God, the Holy Spirit, impregnate a human being (without asking permission) to create the second part of God which then must be killed so that the first part of God’s will no longer be angry.
Absolutely ridiculous😂
Wow you talked like rebellious satan's partner ! 😢
@@phebienewman819 Blah, Blah, Blah.
Is that the best you’ve got?
No substantial argument to ‘prove’ me wrong?
You won’t get them to consider your arguments with reason if you throw it aggressively like that.
The Christian faith is not rooted in reason, it’s rooted in a deep-seated, desperate need to believe. If you present facts that negates their dogma, they are still obligated to dismiss it and follow faith. If you propound logic, they are obligated to invoke a “higher or mysterious ways” argumentation. If you suggest skepticism, they champion credulity.
To them doubt is a challenge to overcome, not a virtue that enables a clearer perspective of reality and truth.
This type of reasoning allows for strong biases towards one’s beliefs especially when confronted in these beliefs in an aggressive tone. Basically they view disagreements as persecution. And feeling of being attacked based on one’s beliefs and cause, makes people think they must be doing the right thing.
If that is what you learned, I agree "it is absolutely ridiculous". But let me tell you: that is not what the Bibles says. The Bible is about good news, not about your sad understanding.
@@juano.calderon9448 Pretty vague.
These were such difficult passages to go through and explain. You've shed some really good light on them as well as teaching some great principles on the integrity of God's word. Thanks for taking the time to do this. An encouragement to dig deeper into the word and really find out what God means through scripture. Loved that you also used the bible to explain the various passages.
Allen is solid, but I think Mike Winger could dig a lot deeper with these tough passages.
And Corey Minor is pretty good with Greek interpretation...(useful for accurate Bible study/translation).
God Bless all 3 Brothers in Christ.
Mike Winger and Leighton Flowers have the most thought out answers on these passages in my opinion, citing the Bible as a whole really beautifully.
Lot of excuses for rough passages.
Brother Allen, thank you for using your time to help someone who has a whole channel dedicated to Bible bashing. I wish I had that patience like you do.
Great job Allen is answering her complaints with God, with gentleness and respect. We will pray for Kristi that she will find the true Gospel message. I see in the comments a lot of nonbelievers have chimed in; this is good at least they can hear the Gospel message also. Peace
This is why I’ve followed you for yrs. She needs to Repent, and you brother know what the Word Repent really means “A Change of Mind” Amen
She has done nothing wrong, unless your god is a crybaby who cannot take mild criticism
@@xXEGPXx she misrepresented the bible and you are telling us she's done nothing wrong? okay.
@jeromelacap5460 Uhhhhh how has she done wrong when she has no say in weather she believes or not? How can she do wrong if God chose her for damnation? Can she give herself faith....or is it God that gives faith???? Soooooo if she's wrong for not believing....is it on her or did God give her faith?
She did change her mind, she went from an evangelist to a reprobate.
@@timjohnson1646 sir you're defeating your own point! You have a choice right now, right now to believe!!! So does she and are you doing it, or are you refusing it!? Instead of using that as an excuse when you nor her,nor I,nor anyone else,truly understands how this works,put that same energy into telling as many people as possible about him! It's God who saves not us! Stop trying to play God and just do what he's said!!