Dr. Frank Turek Answers Questions on Evolution, Apologetics, and Memes
ฝัง
- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 8 ก.ย. 2024
- In this in-person interview, Dr. Frank Turek of @CrossExamined answers questions from our Patrons about evolution, apologetics, and memes. Dr. Turek and I disagree at several points along the way.
For more interviews: • Interviews
------------------------------- GIVING -------------------------------
Patreon (monthly giving): / capturingchristianity
Become a CC Member on TH-cam: / @capturingchristianity
One-time Donations: donorbox.org/c...
Special thanks to all of my supporters for your continued support as I transition into full-time ministry with Capturing Christianity! You guys and gals have no idea how much you mean to me.
--------------------------------- LINKS ---------------------------------
Website: capturingchrist...
Free Christian Apologetics Resources: capturingchris...
The Ultimate List of Apologetics Terms for Beginners (with explanations): capturingchris...
--------------------------------- SOCIAL ---------------------------------
Facebook: / capturingchristianity
Twitter: / capturingchrist
Instagram: / capturingchristianity
SoundCloud: / capturingchristianity
-------------------------------- MY GEAR ---------------------------------
I get a lot of questions about what gear I use, so here's a list of everything I have for streaming and recording. The links below are affiliate (thank you for clicking on them!).
Camera (Nikon Z6): amzn.to/364M1QE
Lens (Nikon 35mm f/1.4G): amzn.to/35WdyDQ
HDMI Adapter (Cam Link 4K): amzn.to/340mUwu
Microphone (Shure SM7B): amzn.to/2VC4rpg
Audio Interface (midiplus Studio 2): amzn.to/33U5u4G
Lights (Neewer 660's with softboxes): amzn.to/2W87tjk
Color Back Lighting (Hue Smart Lights): amzn.to/2MH2L8W
-------------------------------- CONTACT --------------------------------
Email: capturingchrist...
#CrossExamined #FrankTurek #Evolution
I've never heard Frank talk this quiet before...
That was my first thought! He's not yelling.. So that's what his voice sounds like! 🤣
LOL! Right! Dan i love yr logo bro!
Haha maybe because he isn't talking to an auditorium room full of +50 students and just 1 person? Maybe...
@@markmcflounder15 lol thanks
Jesse Lazar he’s so fiery when he’s up on stage
OMG stop interrupting Frank as he answers your questions, let him finish his thoughts - Frank displays great patience, I dont know if I could have
@Jessica B. That is a fantastic point! I wouldn't have considered that.
I hope your saying oh my goodness not the other OMG. It’s better to not make it a habit instead you accidentally take the Lords name in vain.
@@brothersamuelrogers8138 🙄
Jordan Hartley 3rd commandment buddy
@@brothersamuelrogers8138 that's not the Lord's name. We don't even know exactly what the Lord's name is. Best guess in English is YHWH.
Seems more convincing that taking His name in vain would be saying you're His but living hypocritically.
This dude has good points and some intelligent rebuttals, but he needs to be patient enough to let the guest finish a thought.
No, he did really good. He wants to make it hard on purpose
louis cyfer Nice argument.
agreed. so annoying
@@louiscyfer6944 Evidence?
@@louiscyfer6944 stick to pumping weights and roids and leave the talking to others buddy.
Frank Turek was probably the first Christian apologist that I came across. Nowadays, I listen to William Lane Craig more often, but Frank will always have a special place in my heart.
Joseph Logsdon I felt that
His Q & A sessions are great.
Craig and Turek were my first and still my two favorite.
Funny it's the other way around for me
Been watching WLC and just recently started watching Frank.
@@His0wnFoot Say this out loud to yourselves. _"I believe a donkey once talked to its owner."_
Seriously, say that to yourselves, that you believe a donkey once talked.
You *have* to believe that because your religion says its true. And you wonder why Einstein called the religion _"primitive legend"_ and _"pretty childish."_
Interviewer: How would you answer the question of evolution
Frank: Well I would start out by.....
Interviewer: Cuz I would seem to think that it would be more on the side of agnosticism. Would you?
Frank: Well Richard Dawkins tried to insinuate that......
Interviewer: Okay here is another question from our patrons and thank you guys for being so cool.
#GreatInterview
Yeah. I love Cameron, but he did seem to be somewhat antagonistic in this interview.
LOL
It's more like a conversation than an interview
Because .
aahahahahahahahah underrated comment
Hey Cameron, buddy. Gotta let the person speak without interrupting. I saw a lot of that.
Not being critical. Just a suggestion.
Go Or true
that is the definition of being critical, and it's not a bad thing.
What I enjoy about Frank Turek is how well he’s read.
In his answers he’ll quote christians, atheists, ancient philosophers, church leaders etc...
It’s super well versed.
He has read - but understands very little of what he has read.
His quotes are segments cherry-picked to try to prove his points.
Since he does not understand all of what he says, the "gaps" are glaringly obvious and his points fall flat, to anyone who understands the games he plays.
He is a con-man - big talk but says nothing.
@@childofthe60s100 Any examples of how he doesn’t grasp the literature he’s citing?
Or are you also all big talk but saying nothing ?
@@sjappiyah4071 Well for a start the Cambrian Explosion wasn’t instantaneous..............it was about 50 million years. That’s actually quite a long time.
not in the science of biology he isn't.
@@sjappiyah4071 all big talk is not even close?
When I was athiest my argument against God was that the universe seemed so cruel and unjust. But how had I got this idea of just and unjust? A man does not call a line crooked unless he has some idea of a straight line. What was I comparing the universe with when I called it unjust?
Only by acknowledging that there is a God, can we hope to make sense of human existence, the world we inhabit, and, paradoxically, the problem of evil.
But if God is goodness personified and therefore, as our Creator, the divine source of all that is good, true and beautiful, why is there so much evil and suffering? What has gone wrong? The Christian answer to that question, the Bible says, is that our world has been damaged by rebellion against God. An originally good creation has been spoiled.
If you find this hard to believe, consider the evidence. Look at all the many examples there are of benevolent and intricate design in Nature: the nest-building instincts of birds, the incredibly complex structure of the human brain, the navigational systems of bats and whales, the biological software of DNA in every cell of our bodies, sexual reproduction, etc. All this exists side by side with harmful viruses, disease and death. Can its obvious implications be ignored? Consider, too, the si
@J w Selah
@@somerandom3247 Only by acknowledging that there is a God, can we hope to make sense of human existence, the world we inhabit, and, paradoxically, the problem of evil.
But if God is goodness personified and therefore, as our Creator, the divine source of all that is good, true and beautiful, why is there so much evil and suffering? What has gone wrong? The Christian answer to that question, the Bible says, is that our world has been damaged by rebellion against God. An originally good creation has been spoiled.
If you find this hard to believe, consider the evidence. Look at all the many examples there are of benevolent and intricate design in Nature: the nest-building instincts of birds, the incredibly complex structure of the human brain, the navigational systems of bats and whales, the biological software of DNA in every cell of our bodies, sexual reproduction, etc. All this exists side by side with harmful viruses, disease and death. Can its obvious implications be ignored? Consider, too, the significance of the fact that human beings possess an inner moral code they cannot get rid of yet seem unable to obey. Does all this not suggest some process of deterioration from hopeful beginnings? Is it not also significant that many ancient peoples and cultures, including the Chinese, have some tradition of a lost Paradise in the dim and distant past?
That argument just disproves a loving god.
Other gods are still in play.
@@theespionageact5249 The grace of the Lord Jesus Christ, and the love of God, and the communion of the Holy Ghost, be with you all. Amen.
Frank is very educated person, May God bless Frank.
If you believe that, then you are taken in by his faux science.
It's not even "Bad Science" - he just does not fully understand, that which he uses to make his points.
Therefore his points are invalid - bogus.
Frank is a conceited, self-opinionated charlatan.
He has taken YOU in - just as he has conned so many before.
One who speaks the truth is hated the most: he simply says how it is don’t cry.
He’s educated in theology NOT IN SCIENCE!!!!!
Non in any field of science....despite his arrogant and ludicrous bloviating.
@@lamson1990 then nobody could ever hate poor clueless Frank
There is one piece of advice I can give you, Cameron, to become a better interviewer - stop interrupting your guest all the time and let him speak. If you have some additional questions, ask them after the guest has given you the answer to the original one.
He should read more...to be able to ask intelligent questions....
@@jotunman627 I thought his questions were great. They certainly got Turek talking which was exactly what they were supposed to do. Just because he doesn't dress up his questions in intellectual and difficult to understand language does not make him a bad interviewer.
Dr. Turek is such a lovely fellow. Makes you question your worldview no matter what your intellect is.
Makes you wonder HOW can a fool like him be claiming a PhD. Then, you look up, what he supposedly studied and realise what a joker he really is.
Frank and Kent - the Waldorf and Statler of the God Squad!
Dr. Turek is a salesman of Christianity. He uses the religion to make himself wealthy as so many phoney Christians do. Whatever your worldview, Turek is everything Jesus Christ taught *against*.
Not really...
@@childofthe60s100 exactly....a sucker is born every minute......
He did not make me question my world view.....if anything my unbelief is stronger....
Glory to Jesus .
Praise sasquatch!
Yes!
Glory to the Holy Flying Spaghetti Monster
@@Dr.vonKrankenhausen lol
@@Dr.vonKrankenhausen
Grate be the cheese upon him !!
I enjoy his podcast as well as your channel for the same reason, that you invite a lot of Christian scholars from various fields. It’s good to hear from different perspectives of Christianity from different areas.
Came here for the opinions of comment section scholars.
Same 😂
Lol
And went away disappointed?
Frank Turek is a multi millionaire. A real Christian will point out that, unless a camel goes through the eye of a needle fairly soon, Turek is banned from the heaven he constantly espouses.
@@TonyEnglandUK why would frank not go to heaven for having the supposed millions?
Frank Turek is undefeated!
This interview is painful to watch. The Dr. is a pleasure to listen to and sounds confident and natural, could listen to him all day. The interviewer is nervous, rude, and obnoxious. He’s trying way too hard and it’s extremely off putting.
Dr. Frank Turek should receive the direct to the point award.
Dude, your interview style is driving me up a wall. Stop interrupting your guest. You can see he's in the middle of a thought and you jump in.
You're interviewing him to get HIS thoughts. It seems like you're trying, instead, to demonstrate what you know to him.
Let. Your. Guest. Talk.
Actively listen, then engage. Watch Ben Shapiro's Sunday Specials. He's great at this.
Thanks for the feedback. I should note that this is a pretty uncommon critique of my work. See my interview with Swinburne, for example. After my first question, he went 15 minutes uninterrupted.
@@CapturingChristianity Perhaps this is an outlier, but I'm not the only person in the comments who noticed this.
I’m grateful for the clarifying questions he poses. Interruptions like that are necessary when trying to hold conversation with people like Turek.
Frank has plenty of monologues (and the BOOK that he wrote, prompting this interview) that you can take in at your leisure. This is an actual conversation. I applaud his style, so if you don’t like it then why not go elsewhere?
@Excuse me, but What lack of rigor? They're the same arguments everyone uses.
He's approach is lay-level, unlike WLC.
@Gabe Norman He said on the Joe Rogan show, that Jesus was a common criminal who got what he deserved..
Whoever filmed and edited this is solid
Did you go all the way to niall
Love the secureness Dr. Frank Turek has. Boy! Like he has all the right and very satisfying answers.
Except he's an ignorant arrogant fool.
I love watching Frank!
Me too...
"I can do this all day." LOL!
@@louiscyfer6944 As you have a person that isn't you, or a random body builder, as your profile picture.
You wouldn't have loved watching Hitchens destroy his nonsense - EVERY TIME they met.
@@childofthe60s100 Christopher hitchens was actually iffy in his atheism; and actually considered christianity.
@@jmogames724 Who mentioned Hitchens???????
In any case, what you say is nonsense! He was brought up catholic and rejected religion, when old enough to think and reason.
He NEVER reconsidered his correct, informed views.
"iffy"????
Not remotely!
Not only atheist but anti-theist, like all reasonable, non-brainwashed adults.
Well.......YOU mentioned him - not me!
Cameron, I have personally had a conversation with someone who said this: "If Christianity is true, and I feel like it truly could be, I cannot come to Christ because I do not want to give up my homosexuality." I have had someone literally say this to me, so I get where Frank is coming from.
axderka this person is either lying or they don’t understand or know about the concept of hell
Matt M I think you misunderstood me. I wasn’t saying that it was, I was responding to someone who said he knows somebody who says they still wouldn’t be Christian even if it was true and he knew it.
@@lucidlocomotive2014
I know the Bible god was invented by humans, and doesn't exist apart from our imaginations, wishful thinking.
However, if that were not true, I would still not worship a god who created a universe in which:
A man takes a stick with a comparable width to my wrists, and beats his own 6 year old daughter to an inch of her life. He breaks the stick over her back and CONTINUES hitting her with the halves whilst she screams uncontrollably from the pain of already shattered bones being struck over and over again.
That's just one thing I've seen recently on the internet. I've seen other things far too disgusting and inhumane to recount here, so no amount of pretending free will exists with no arguments or evidence will ever convince me there's a clearer answer to the logical problem of evil than what I mentioned at the beginning of this comment. If there is a god, it's not worthy of anything but contempt.
@@mattsmith1440 The problem is with the Man who beats the little girl. What God has to do anything with it? If you refute me back that God allowed this to happen. You need to check the free will background of that man who beats the girl. i.e he is doing this act because his spirit is demon possessed.
GOD is completely GOOD.
Following JESUS no man would do such a terrible act.
Following SATAN men can do all terrible evil things.
So, It's your free will to choose GOD or SATAN.
@@mattsmith1440
Christians need to stand up and preach the gospel most Christians don't go to the dangerous places to preach so that's where I'm headed through Jesus!
I like cameron, but in this interview he seem stressed and uncomfortable, which leads to interruptions. Except for that; great interview. May God bless both of them.
10:27 What Dr. Frank is saying in his head during this whole interview.
He is also saying _"I hope the camera is picking up my book's product placement nicely, I need another $million."_
@@TonyEnglandUK you’re mad because he sells books? People aren’t forced to buy them, what’s the problem?
@@MarcanthonyTho I'll tell you what the problem is. A real Christian would place another book there, see if you can figure out which book?
@@TonyEnglandUK what a weak response.
@@MarcanthonyTho You mean you didn't think of it and now you realise how right I was, enjoy the video lol. Nice talking to you.
It was amazing! Invite Dr. Turek more often!
"Dr" - his so called PhD has about as much validity, as that of the other idiot zealot - Kent Hovind.
People who either buy their degrees or study some arcane nonsense that cannot be verified, and then claim it to be academic study, degrade our education system.
People work hard, to attain high academic standards - word salad spouters who quote faux science, like this lying self aggrandising, idiot need to be exposed - not encouraged!
He believes in talking snakes and you applaud! Oops you too! 🤣
@@mystery6411 "Where did he bought"?????
No mystery why YOU will never have a "PHD" then!
@@mystery6411 Don't know where he did bought it. I'm his mum - better ask his dad where he did bough his PHD.
@capturingchristianity Cameron if you haven't read Signature in the Cell, Darwin's Doubt, Darwin Devolves, Darwin's Black Box and especially Theistic Evolution I highly recommend them all. After consuming and carefully considering all the evidence, you shouldn't be 'agnostic' in your position any longer. I most recently finished Theistic Evolution and it was an eye opener for me. Appreciate your and Frank's diligent work for the Lord. Keep it up gents!
Why not recommend books on evolutionary biology written by actual evolutionary biologists......it's almost as if your agenda isn't actually informing yourself.
35:47 is what you're here for, when meme session starts. You're welcome, friends
cringe
Thanks
Adam being made out of the dust is actually compatible with evolution though. Human beings, and all animals that have evolved, are made of matter that comes from stardust. To us, its an insanely large-scale and longterm thing for stars to explode, earth to form and change, life to begin, and millions of years of evolution to lead to the first human being(s), but from the perspective of an infinite and eternal being, it is easily just “God made Adam out of the dust”
*insert atheist's hysteria response*
There was no adam and Eve tho....evolution clearly refutes that.
colby j Where and how?
Frank summed up our thoughts 18:37.
Let the man speak lol.
"OUR"????????
Nice gains dude
Intellectually honest Cameron, not shying away from attacking bad arguments. Great stuff.
Love the questions you asked, I just think you need to work on your interviewing a little bit. the frequent interruption made it very difficult to pay attention & enjoy the interview.
Love the podcast! I know it’s your channel, but I started getting turned off by the number of times you would interject while he was beginning to make a point, or in the middle of one. Just a heads up. Keep up the good work!
There was no good work. Dont lie
These closed captions are a trip :"cocaine fizzy"? at 32:19. I get all kinds in my location, but this is one of the funniest!
The preconditions Which led me to accept Christ were very similar to Dr Turek's account : born in a nominal Catholic family, never actually got to understand who Jesus was, beside the fact He was related to God in some ways. I believed that God was loving ,but as I turned 15 I grew in pride and rebellion , I've started to mock and insulting God, the Saints, The Bible , Our Blessed Lady . When ,.many years later I understood what Jesus has accomplished for me ,. The truth about my sinfulness and God's love ,hit me like a brick wall . I couldn't be the same person after that , even if I wanted to .
his was fun! Please bring Frank back on and do more Q and A's please!
First frank video I've watched and WOW. He explains my beliefs exactly how I would with much more elegance and speed
For a sec I though your pf pic was a floating head.
Just let Frank finish a thought. We get you want to defend modern synthesis of darwinian evolution on screen, but I thought this was an interview not a debate.
Is frank advertising his book displayed on table lol love all his books
I enjoy many of Frank’s points. Thanks for doing this interview. 👍🏼
So do I - absolutely hilarious - the guy is a closed minded, indoctrinated idiot.
SO FUNNY watching him make it all up, as he goes along.
Child of the 60s u got beat up in school by a Christian so now u gonna pour ur tears below every positive comment about Frank? He’s simply saying how it is.
@@childofthe60s100 very neccessary for you to post mocks and make fun of the guy👍👍😁😁
Let Frank Speak please 😂😂 I can't hahaha
Interrupting others was a bad habit I practiced for most of my life so it’s still a challenge to this day. Lets pray for this interviewer and others in our lives that struggle with this. May God give them the humble heart to acknowledge it as a problem and work swiftly toward empowering them to change it.
Mr. Capturing Christianity, you should really read Dr. Stephen Meyer's books Signature in the Cell, and Darwin's Doubt. Dr. Michael Behe's books are also excellent sources if you want to better understand the science behind ID theory. I have read some of Dr. Swamidass' and InspriringPhiliosophy's rebuttals and found them unconvincing.
16:29 correct answer to that question is Lust. . . but I certainly get what he is saying. He said the answer was Sex.
Love Frank! A little disturbed that he EVER listens to Andy Stanley, but sounds like that's only occasional. Great interview!
Frank completely misrepresents that "meeting" in the UK in November 2016.... Nobody said "the current theory of macro evolution doesn't work, we have to find a new one." Not even close. Why do the world's most outspoken apologists fail fact-checking? You'd think they'd be more committed to factual statements than anyone.
Here's a comprehensive summary of the point of that conference: www.quantamagazine.org/scientists-seek-to-update-evolution-20161122/
Cool thanks for pointing out. I'll read this later.
@Excuse me, but ...well clearly you’ve never been to one of these scientific conferences if you actually think it akin to a religious proceeding. That is, unless the religious proceedings you’ve been to involved open discussion and debate on peer-reviewed and thoroughly researched models which account for the empirical evidence of nature..
I have to say: I was really disappointed that he booked Turek. He’s a smart guy but fails to double check a lot, and is often badly mistaken.
Frank turek is more of an apologetics populariser rather than a scholar.
Is frank turek even a scientist?
Frank, David Wood, Jay Smith, Dan Gibson need to be the heads at UN. GOD BLESS EM
What your picture represents?
There needs to be no UN they keep uniting the world soon we will be one under one currency that is cashless and controllable to force people to worship on Sunday aka the mark of the BEAST Google boasts of the Roman catholic church by amazing discovery's and read that
@@propro693 read my comment dude
Yup UN is actually devil. Also check out ID2020. I know my dp sux but it is nothing serious. I praise rhe Lord all the time
@@papaiswatching can you tell me your picture because looks masonic and you are representing God
That was an awesome interview, Cameton. Frank's such a nice and intelligent person.
Frank is one cool dude. He might be a fast talker from New Jersey and I'm a slow listener from Orrstrailia but he really makes good sense.
37:54 The point is that Jesus conquers sin and death by his sacrifice, and it's more impressive that it only took him a long weekend to do it.
GOON!!!!
Is that your favourite joke?
Clearly, you don't even understand him
@@markmbugua2358 Clearly, you are an indoctrinated foo,l incapable of rational thought - because the god virus has infected you since childhood.
@@childofthe60s100 I've been an atheist most of my life and all i said is clearly you didn't understand him
"[If macro-evolution was true], it would give us problems for biblical inerrancy in the Old Testament." I am REALLY critical of Turek, but to give credit where it is due, he is probably one of the more sincere apologists out there. Conversely, William Lane Craig feels that Francis Collins' theory that homosapiens came from at least 5000 couples is PERFECTLY COMPATIBLE (Adam and Eve could have been one of those couples) with the Genesis account. WLC is MUCH more of a cognitive contortionist than Turek.
Turek also embracing the lime-light, with the hair, the tan, the attitude, the "What do you meme?s. I love that he's stepping out. Kudos to you, Frank!
Thanks for showing everyone exactly why we don't believe your book. Also calling WLC a contortionist for the bible couldn't be more accurate.
Being a Christian is fun. Whenever any of my biblical claims is refuted by science, I can always say it's a metaphor 😁
@Mark psalm 104.5 says the earth doesn't move. Now we know it revolves around the sun. What do christians say? You guessed it : its a metaphor.
I expect you to know more of these examples
Sounds like you're mad that not every Christian is the fundamentalist, literalist strawman you'd like them to be.
@Mark most of genesis
colby j Can you tell me how Genesis is refuted? I’d just like to know reasons why.
You are a genius!
2:32 that has been observed many times. Macroevolution is variation between species. Speciation has been observed many times and that is macroevolution by definition.
By definition. That is important to remember. Let's use rabbits.
The Florida rabbit and Alaska rabbit can no longer breed. Man has defined this scenario as "speciation" . They now consider these rabbits 2 different species.
However, they are still rabbits. It's just a small differentiation to the X or Y chromosome.
That's a far different scenario then a fish like ancestor becoming a land mammal. In small increments over vast amounts of time of course. I do not mean in one generation.
*Defendant:*
*There's no evidence of me killing that person.*
*This Guy:*
*There's no evidence that there's no evidence of you killing that person.*
Well said
Strong case because there’s literally nothing you can do about it.
That’s dishonest.
It depends on the scenario. The evidence that you killed that person would rely on whether there are other possibilities and what those other possibilities must entail for you to not be guilty of killing that person.
@@f0rtitude
Don't take it literally, dude. It was a simile for something he said.
An Atheist's arguement was:
“There's no evidence of God”.
This idiot replied:
“There's no evidence that there's no evidence of God”.
Well it's a more complicated way of saying "there is positive evidence". It's like if I said, "I don't NOT want to do this." All I'm essentially saying "I do want to do this".
"this guy has a book, must be somebody" LOL 😂
The constant interrupting by the interviewer made this video unwatchable.
Franks ignorance on evolution made it unwatchable
@@angelperez7725 ehh 😬
@@SolarJord if he actually knew what he was talking about it would’ve been watchable
I think people are confused on the evolution/information issue. Evolution is said to start only once we have a self replicating organism. The information was there before that. A mind is surely required to get the process going, no doubt. The evolution debate should really be about 'what can mutation and selection really do?' This can be tested in a lab, and has been. Evolution is possible within the family group, but there exists no data or evidence or proposed pathway AT THE MOLECULAR LEVEL for producing a new family group from another.
Yes. People are confused. Especially you. Have you ever completed a biology course?
Unprofessional interviewer constantly interrupting
and he does it to like, everyone that he interviews. I can't stand it.
Seems like a sincere discussion mixed with an interview
Frank is so patient with the constant interruptions
I have watched possibly a hundred or more of Videos with Frank Turek in them, this was the one that made me realise , keep getting educated, keep shedding my foolishness , keep listening, there seems to be a really strong synergy coming from these Gentlemen getting together, Thankyou very much.
I love how Dr. Frank says VERTICAL CAUSE! Wow.... As clear as a day,, in just such a short explanation in few seconds... Wow...
Apparently Cameron is blocking users who disagree with him.
Bobby Bobbie Ah yes, the lame “trolling” defense. Good one.
You're not blocked on here. We can still see your comments
Funny, I can see your comment.
Jc Thomas OMG you found me out.
Really agree with Frank on the possibility issue in the beginning 😂 Cameron kinda put the atheist hat there saying: “but is it possible”
I have heard memes compared with the propaganda posters of the 1930s and 1940s. They are an engaging picture with a pithy statement that is designed to manipulate your thinking.
Didn't George Washington say that?
As an atheist follower of your work, you Cameron are just the sort of guy that people should want to be friends with. Keep it up!
12:39 - gene duplication can produce new information through mutation.
The cathedral and beach allegories aren't applicable. The blueprints can't give the materials, but cells can acquire organelles through eating other cells/organelles which can then allow them to produce proteins, self replicate, etc.
32:00 - I wonder if because mutations, while random, are still guided by natural selection which is not a random process, the ability to think rationally and accurately in relation to reality would be beneficial for a species.
So if I were a naturalist, how can I know I can trust my own thoughts?
I wouldn't say I can know with 100% certainty, but for some issues I would say that I am 99.9% certain because I can test my thoughts. How do I know I am actually typing right now? Well, there are a number of things, I can see, I can hear and I can rely on past experiences to know that I can be certain I am typing right now. Is it possible this is all some illusion, possibly. But the same question could be turned on someone who is a theist.
On some issues, I won't be so certain, for example, "is there an afterlife?" I could take the position of an agnostic until I am more certain.
This explains to me why dogs have a different level of comprehension to humans for example. Their brains have evolved enough to allow them to perceive the world as dogs. However, just as dogs have limitations to what they can comprehend accurately, humans do too.
So if I was a naturalist, it's not like being able to trust my thoughts is a black or white thing, but more of a spectrum. This way, I could argue that my thoughts and even my subjective morality are consequences of evolution.
Love the professionalism Cameron!
@Tommy S is there an example of a beneficial mutation? we call neutral mutations tumors and remove them. and harmful mutations cancer and it kills us. How does natural selection know which to select if there is no mind at work?
You wrote, "gene duplication can produce new information through mutation." how is gaining an extra copy of the information new? Do you know that the cell still functions the same in only about half the cases of gene duplication?
@Tommy S you need to look again because in the mutation that bacteria become resistant they are losing information and not gaining. The mutated strain is weaker than the original and in the wild dies out. Sickle cell anemia also prevents malaria, but it makes other parts of life more difficult.
Kenneth Gee Natural selection doesn’t “know” how to do anything and it doesn’t consciously “select” anything. It’s simply a way to describe how beneficial mutations will make it more likely for a specimen survive and pass on its genes within its environment, this is what is meant by “selected”. If a mutation lessens the chance of survival and reproduction, then over time this mutation is less likely to pass on and survive the environment. This would be a “non-selected” mutation. It’s the environment that ultimately dictates(not consciously) what kind of creatures and traits are better suited to thrive within it.
@Tommy S Ah but in the argument of evolution, one must gain new information. There has never been a study that proves that an organism can acquire new information.
Two ears ONE mouth!!
"What natural laws can produce information?" Nice try. Information is defined as "what is conveyed or represented by a particular arrangement or sequence of things." So as soon as you say "information" you are smuggling in an agent. That being said, how do you know if a pattern on a piece of rock is "information" or just random set of dots which appeared because of wind and sand? Would you go saying "this looks so complex and useful, god must've done it for me" or do you apply this logic only when something is actually useful to you and ignore all other occurrences of randomness in the world?
If you see rocks with a pattern that says (Welcome Alex to the world of chances) what would you think about it?
Right - and how do you answer the question you raise, Alex?
@@romelimmense Not sure i understand your point. Do we have such rock? Or are you saying that rock is so finely tuned to laying on a sand that it must've been designed that way? As far as i am aware evolution is the best explanation we have for how you get from a molecule to tiny organisms, to bigger organisms, to humans.
@@nunca789 As far as i am aware evolution is the best explanation we have for how you get from a molecule to tiny organisms, to bigger organisms, to humans. There is nothing about it that is purposefully designed by an agent.
@@alexp8924 I don't discount biological evolution but the complexity of life if it is not designed therefore we are just very lucky?
I started freestyling when the beat first dropped. So you can get that out of your head that I didn’t.
I found the first 16 minutes rather interesting, and frankly (no pun intended), it is why I consider myself an Earth Age Agnostic. I cannot decide rather I believe in evolution or YEC. Although Turek presented a pretty solid case against natural evolution (without God), I don't think many of his arguments hold up against theistic evolution. Problems like the Cambrian Explosion are only a problem to natural evolution. Suggesting that God suddenly caused a large amount of new life forms to exist in a short time would fit with theistic evolution, but it still retains the archeological record that disproves the Biblical age of the earth. So, although he argued well, I think there is still a lot of room to support even macro-evolution. The reason why YECs no longer have me convinced is because this is the strongest argument I've seen against evolution. YECs need to do better.
The best argument against macro-evolution (which could include theistic evolution) would be what he said about a convention of naturalists getting together to say it's not working anymore. Now, that by itself is not a particularly strong argument, but my reaction was very similar to Cameron's. "I've not heard about this, I've not seen anybody talk as though there is anybody in the field questioning it." But yet, I have heard small claims here and there of scientists losing their job for questioning the theory of evolution. It begs the question: "Why?" Why doesn't mainstream science acknowledge when there are skeptics of mainstream science without calling them "science deniers"? As long as science silences its doubters, their methods will be questionable. And this is why I am skeptical to embrace macro-evolution.
It's like the YECs are saying, "We have the truth", and use faulty logic. But the evolutionists are saying, "We have the truth", and use questionable tactics. So I can't trust biased people, but if I put aside the people and go to the book that has won my trust, it will say one thing, but the majority of the evidence then says another. What then do I ultimately believe? That is why I am an Earth Age Agnostic. Either way, however, God is real, and Jesus rose from the dead. Btw, Christianity is true.
The ideas for the age of the earth men have derived from the Bible are based on its discussion of a line of men leading as a seed line to bring about the Christ.
The books compiled in The bible don't really give us time in years, it is theory to give actual time to it. Using the evidence we have made the "gap theory."
That must exist in the first few verses of Genesis.
Dr. Gene Kim gives gap theory so well explained by supporting scripture, it can explain the evidence on the earth of the previous earth age or ages.
The bible explains in a neat way that the reader can find, but I for one, had to listen to alot of bible studies to finally hear of the gap theory.
I liked what you wrote here and wanted to mention that to you in case you hadn't heard of Dr. Kim at "real bible believers" on TH-cam.
The meeting he mentioned was scientists questioning the MECHANISM of macroevolution, not the occurrence of it. And this has NOT been silenced in the scientific community, in fact there are papers in the peer reviewed literature going back 40-50 years that question the mechanism of neodarwinism. But to act like this magically invalidates the occurrence of evolution, like Frank and many others do, is completely disingenuous. No actual scientists think that it did not occur. Science is two things. First is an observation. In this case, we can observe with fossils and genetics that evolution DID happen. Second is an explanation for that observation. This is an educated guess called a hypothesis. As more observations are made, that guess is refined. In this case, the observed evolution in the fossil record is not adequately explained by the proposed neodarwinism mechanism, so it needs to be adjusted. That's it. No one is questioning the fact that evolution happened.
PS - You can dismiss the YEC position straight away because they deny the location of Eden given in Genesis 2.
@@theTavis01 Steven Meyer is the best example of a scientist who has alot to offer on this topic for you.
@@dannylinc6247 is that why he can't get any of his nonsense past peer review?
@@theTavis01 it certainly is supported by the evidence which, they lack theirs for their theory.
How can they get the theory past those "peers" ?
Their ideas change and new books are written.
New ideas are brought and they are entertained. You hear them offered as explanations often if you follow this topic, and as yet there's nothing more than trying to adjust a puzzle to fit together.
Meyer comes along with a better explanation and makes them look like they know , but they hate his better explanation. Haters can't learn, often, unless they came up with the new approach themselves. That's your answer. If you call that nonsense, then you'll be stuck like that indefinitely.
I've seen a four man interview where he was one of the three invited and he ran circles around the other two.
They just acted like a sound was occurring the other two couldn't explain.
You see, it makes them look like they don't want the right answers. They want funding for research, they want to write and sell books, and they want to put forth more ideas and control these topics so they know the questions won't fully have any answers.
The other two never contradicted him and never were on the specific explanation topics he was giving.
They were visibly acting aloof and had nothing compelling as refutation.
If you can sit through that, you'll see, if those are supposed to be his peers?
He might as well just leave the room and go seek intelligent life on this planet.
He's beyond their comprehension.
Peers?
Even that will be tough to find for the way he assembles the puzzle and doesn't have to work on his pieces to change them to fit.
I didn't have much knowledge of his material before that, but I knew I hadn't found good answers till he gave a few minutes there.
I will look for it and return with the reference for the video.
For anyone interested: Here's an article on the Royal Society 2016 meeting.
evolutionnews.org/2016/12/why_the_royal_s/ ;)
I am so glad this clarifying question was asked by the host. Sharp!
Awesome interview. Really nice job 😊. For those interested in Christianity search for Orthodox Christianity, is a like treasure hidden that nobody knows.
A good reporter let’s the person being interviewed do the talking in my opinion.
Interviewing scholars in the field seems good to your channel.
Frank knows everything; I think he is omniscient.
What do you meme!!!!! (That's somebody else's podcast 😂)
Is this the first time this interviewer had interviewed 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Why not host a debate about Evolution between someone who knows what he's talking about and Turek?
Because that would be absolutely embarrassing for Frank, and a complete waste of time for an actual evolutionary biologist.
Because Dawkins won't even debate William Lane Craig, let alone a bona fide Creationist Biologist.
Creation Ministries International invited him to debate during his Australian tour, but declined .
John Lennox humiliated him in his series of debates.
What are evolutionists afraid of?
@@hwd71 Dawkins will not debate Creationists for exactly the same reason he will not debate flat earth believers. It is not worth lowering himself and legitimizing a provably false completely unscientific position.
@hwd71 “bona fide Creationist Biologist” ...lol, so a pseudoscientist?
That should be good! But I think Cameron might not want to divide his base too much. Better to keep the arrows pointed at us atheists than at other Christians, right
I think this was a good interview, Frank is ok guys, he will make sure to make his point if interrupted
1:10 "no that's not you podcast is it" lol
Time passing does not provide a cause or mechanism. You can wait 10 billion years and if you don’t have a hammer In your tool kit it won’t spontaneously appear without a mechanism for its introduction.
Frank Turek is German 🇩🇪
I'm in television production and Cameron's lighting is absolutely perfect. Most youtubers use one ring light or something simple like that. He has a 3 point lighting sceme going on here. I'm an atheist who watches his channel. Don't agree with most of the content. But hats off on the production quality.
Scott LaFleur thank you! We def used 3 lights in this one. I have big plans for future interviews. Gonna get more creative.
Very nice of you Scott, please do consider his arguments with an open mind. We all are human brothers and sisters(family), Christianity bring us back to that conclusion and motivates people to live that way. But atheism doesn't care. What good atheism does to an uneducated, poor and neglected members of the human family? Did you know any Atheist going to a remote land to show love to people and educate and feed them?
Love you Scott. I believe we exist because God loves us. so I say God(our creator) loves you my brother. As you naturally love your child because you caused him to exist and you let him live freely but you won't tolerate if he harms himself or if he lust or rapes his own sister (sin). You'll punish him or you give him to police. Just think this way from God's 100% holy and just perspective. Have you ever hated or lusted any other member of the Human family? If there is a just God what He will do?
Then who can save us?
“For this is how God loved the world: He gave his one and only Son, so that everyone who believes in him will not perish but have eternal life. God sent his Son into the world not to judge the world, but to save the world through him. “There is no judgment against anyone who believes in him. But anyone who does not believe in him has already been judged for not believing in God’s one and only Son. And the judgment is based on this fact: God’s light came into the world, but people loved the darkness more than the light, for their actions were evil. All who do evil hate the light and refuse to go near it for fear their sins will be exposed. But those who do what is right come to the light so others can see that they are doing what God wants. ”
John 3:16-21 NLT
Yep I agree, good production values for sure.
@@philip5136 Okay. So you seem to say atheism doesn't do this or atheists don't do this. You ask me if I know any atheists who help the needed. Not personally. I actually don't know any atheists personally. All my family and friends are christian. As far as what atheism does or doesn't do. All atheism is is the answer to one question. Do you believe in a god or gods? My answer is no. That's all it is.
@@scottlafleur4148 Hi brother! Why didn't you believe that God exists? How did you come to that conclusion Brother? I was also an atheist, in fact a blasphemer, arrogant and self-centred.. but all that I did to other is injustice, I hurted my parents, I lied to People who loves me. This is vicious, a simple lie is betraying someone's trust. And if I die and also others who were hurt and betrayed by me there is no point in living life if there is no one to judge and to give justice. All we see around is just meaningless. We are people made in the image of God (Bible gives that value to a human being) same in essence and equal in the sight of God. But We fail to treat eachother that way even we know that it's not good. That is sin and it is separated us from God. Only feeling sorry for that life and asking forgiveness to God our father changes life just as my life and attitudes and purpose has changed. When I see Christ paying for my sins on the cross.( He is 100% human too our brother in flesh). He gave Himself as a sacrifice to draw our attention to himself. So that we may think and come back to senses. His suffering out of Love opens our minds if it doesn't then nothing can soften our hearts. When I ask forgiveness, God changed me and gave me a new life. Now I experience peace, joy and meaning in life. Even being thousands of miles away from you I'm able to love you. Can you see my heart and Christ love behind it!
Biologist here:; I’m 7 minutes in, and so far Frank got everything and I mean everything, wrong.
I will continue after I calm down, but it’s not looking promising.
I love Frank Turek, glad you got him on.
Incredibly satisfying dialogue
What a horrendously orchestrated interview.
Huh
Awesome stuff, thanks
Great guest but awful interview, you interrupt him on every question. It’s like you just want to hear yourself speak.
It also seems like the guest is more interested in promoting his book than that other book called the Bible. Weird that, huh?
I completely agree about the excessive interruptions. They really annoyed me.
@@TonyEnglandUK his book is about the existiance of god and the Bible so ur claim is no valid
@@jsnowyy858 Pause it at 2:26 and tell me whose book you see. Because I don't see the Bible anywhere.
@@jsnowyy858 lol Americans are so easily led. When are you going to work out why all your famous "religious" people are multi-millionaires and when you going to work out why they never _"sell what they own and give to the poor"_ as the Bible advised them.
Interviewer: "explain it to me like I'm 12...
Ok, explain it to me like I'm 6"
Explain it to me like im dead and never lived.
3:05 ironic considering Dr Turek is an old-earther. (at least that's what he said in a conference a few years back)
Hope one day that I can make a ministry for God as effective as Dr Turek's.
Here's another one: WHY does an all-powerful being need US to argue amongst ourselves as to whether or not "s/he" exists?
Simple..He doesn't
whADDo yOU mEmE
A lack of belief in materialism doesn’t mean materialism doesn’t exist.
The problem with this analogy is that materialism is a concept we created.
Frank made the atheist point that atheism is just not believing in something we created.
🤦♂️
"Where does the evidence point?"
Answer: God.
Case closed.
Can you share this evidence that "points" to the 3xistence of a god. I would like to be convinced.
@@theoskeptomai2535 The existence of Jesus Christ of Nazareth is without dispute. His death burial and resurrection cannot be refuted. Jesus is God. God with us.
@@ColonelEmpire amen
Theo Skeptomai No, Go find it for yourself- Its not on TH-cam comments
@Ja L There is more evidence that Jesus is alive and lived than there is evidence that you are alive now... You have to deny the facts of history in order to deny the fact that Jesus lived, died and rose again....
Here is a video that will help in your quest for truth....if you are seeking truth....
th-cam.com/video/5znVUFHqO4Q/w-d-xo.html
You believe that Alexander the Great is a factual historical figure do you not? Yes you do. There is more evidence for Jesus Christ the Lord than for Alexander the Great.... Just for starters.
No one has EVER refuted the Bible. You have no credibility.
I couldn't even finish watching it. I don't understand how Frank could sit on the seat and complete the interview
14:30 strange behaviour... also the moderator is mostly about himself. What I can see is he himself has a narcistic character and that is not bad but this person is not trustworthy enough for your soul.
How is he narcissistic? For him to be narcissistic, he has to have a high sense of self, no empathy, and expects praise. He's just nervous, that's typical of young interviewers.
Frank, What is the formal program that you recommend? I have been studying for sometime via TH-cam and articles but want a formal education for the exact reasons why.
18:37 I love Frank's response here :P
It doesn't matter if you don't like it... it's true. I don't know if God exists, But it's not 50/50! I don't know if pixies or bigfoot exists. Atheists do not think a God exists, so they wait for a good reason to change their minds. the same for Pixies and bigfoot. However, Bigfoot is not supernatural so I am more confident in him without evidence than a magical pixy or an all-powerful mind without a material brain.
Saying you don't believe something is true is not the same as saying you believe it is false, thus is why apologetics get the reputation of being filled with dishonest people, because they use dishonest wording to reinforce the idea that they are right.
He never really recovered from being Hitchslapped!
And Hitchens never recovered from being God-smacked. I got snarky retorts too. Or heck science failed him because they never found a cure for his cancer. Either way, he never recovered.
@@theconservativechristian7308 what god? No god has ever been demonstrated to exist.
:)
@@theconservativechristian7308 sadly predictable.
48:16
One term used for this is ‘Bulverism’.