Samurai spend their whole lives training and meditating. They hone their blades and some believed the katana of the samurai was spiritually linked to its owner. Becoming a samurai was a lifetime commitment and it meant honor in its deepest form. It takes a factory a couple of hours to make a full batch of rifled muskets and about 2 weeks to learn everything you need to work it.
+Star Foth That's the advantage in technological power : a soldier died ? Just reproduce a musket and arm it to another soldier and the fighting strength is replenished, quickly, easily and cheap
5:37 Precision accuracy right there. Completely eviscerated that man with their fellow comrade not even a blood splatter length away. Now that's one hell of a save
StickManVS I agree. I think that if there is a line, it should be WW1 where formation warfare died out. Aside from a Victorian era total war, they could also make one for renaissance pike and shot (1500-1700), the Three Kingdoms, Bronze or Iron age, or the Mongols, which could stand in for Medieval 3. Not to mention lots of fantasy titles since they're working on Warhammer.
that guy needs to have a huge statue of hes self Build on the field like the colosus and named Bad Luck Brian ... surviving all the way there and get killed by 564 bullets on hes body because everyone there Hates him ! they were like , "ITS THAT GUY GET HIM!"
Now just imagine this battle where the samurai are controlled by a human player too. That'd be even more intense! At least, I kinda get the feeling that was the AI, since the enemy army was marching at a leisurely walk through murderous artillery fire, as only Total War's AI can.
Can you Otakus just stop saying that 'The US has no honour', Honour dont mean jack shit. It was a huge part of Japanese warrior culture, but even then most samurai were scumbags, not much different from Knights of the Middle Ages. Honour does not mean anything on the Battlefield.
***** True. Granted, they did duel, however by that same logic snobby Englishmen from the 1700s are also incredibly honourable. They were a well armed, fighting social elite that would do anything to win, save a few exceptions. In short, they were no different than knights.
+Blank Ball The cute part was the "honor" thing wasn't even a factor in Japanese warfare until there was no longer Japanese warfare. The Gekkokujo and Sengoku were all about sneak attacks, hidden alliances, and fostering internal betrayal.
I thought this was an insanely cool battle. especially since the battle was so close, only 300 marines left, and the AI pulled the most intense feint ever! I though that main charge to the center line was all of it's forces but it was a fucking feint!
5:25 That band of brothers is knowingly charging towards their own death to halt the enemy fire and give their allies an opportunity to push forward. Rest in peace.
Hans Gryphon a third is hardly considered small when we are talking thousands of men. Figure out how much is usually in a marine force and compare it to 4,400.
Link 8 Using modern standards? Yeah, 4,400 is a lot. But massive pitched battles were common back then, a battle with only 16,000 soldiers could be considered minor. And the Samurai had a 3 to 1 numbers advantage on the Marines, so I'd say that the Marine force was pretty small.
Dagda Mor You are not grasping the point, there are 4,400 fucking marines fighting a pitched battle. Numbers that large are unheard of for marines and pitched battles are dead and gone. And 16,000 is not a minor battle, you've been tricked into thinking that battles were massive fights between 100,000s of men - nope.
Oh my gosh, Seeing all of that artilery and all of the explosions, I hope the "Total War" franchise adds something related to World War 2 or 1, Maybe even the American Civil War even.
3:01 This guy survives a near-direct cannon shot, gets up like "Hey guys, wait for me!", and then watches his whole unit just gets annihilated. He's coming back with major PTSD, if he survived at all.
Today the Royal Marines are an elite commando unit whereas the US Marine Corps is exactly what it says on the tin - a Corps a standalone army that dwarfs the entire British army on its own. The differences between the two are huge you cant compare them.
...In all of the time I've watched Total War videos, I have never seen such a brutal and one-sided battle... especially with that one samurai guy at 5:36
The cannons in Fall of the Samurai are awesome to use. Having a few in your army almost all but guarantees you will win. Their range and power is unmatched.
Historically though, there were actually alot of upsets in battle losses for the modern armies during these conflicts. Some of them are really remarkable
Yeah, but those are special circumstances, such as Isandalwana and Little Bighorn. A prepared, entrenched modern arm at this time would absolutely destroy any native army many times their size. Look at Rorke's Drift, or the Battle of Blood River.
Nothing quite highlights the brutality of war than seeing thousands of skilled Japanese warriors get utterly devastated by cannon fire, machine gun fire, and rifle gunfire.
The careful use of retreating and regrouping near the end is why the marines won this battle. If they had entered melee, they wouldn't have been able to gun them down from multiple angles the way they did, luring the samurai into the fire. Of course when only 10% of your men survive it's hardly a 'victory'.
I enjoyed how you tried to set the marines up for failure. A whole goddamn battery would NOT target 12 dudes. The AI, however, simply chooses the closest unit, regardless of number. This is a good lesson for gameplay. Pick your targets using common sense. There is a HUGE deficit in the AI process at range. Fun to watch, anyway.
"SIR our men is getting bombarted and shot at do you want them to spred out so there a smaller target!?" "Nahh its good we have better numbers what could go wrong"
Why do entire units stop shooting when they go into melee? Maybe the front several ranks of marines would use bayonets and swords but as many as possible would continue loading and shooting. These games don't seem to allow for that?
Do Western-Fencing units not have any special animations for dueling, executing, and getting executed to the different weapons in-game? Even bayonets don't have special animations from what I know, they just re-use naginata animations.
accuracy of that marines is crazy UNREAL...and also the warriors running in should spread into big cloud not run like a crowd and being killed by tens for one explosion...kind of dissapointed that game BASED on tactics dont show this basic elements of attact tactics....i hope you understand what iam trying to say...i think even in rome total war first was ability to make your unit to spread more to avoid being killed by arrows fast
I like how if your flank is attacked, only the soldier on the flank will engage in melee, instead of the entire firing line disrupting into the shape of a drunken snake and preparing swords and bayonets.
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Benjamin Newman France has been one of the strongest nations in history until their loss against Nazi germany, and since then people has been stereotyping them as "wusses"
+David Frigault How can you use the evacuation of Dunkirk as an example of German military might lol it was an unorganized retreat in which everyone died
+Jack Girdlestone they tried to use the traditional line formations, but were gunned down by artillery. So they just kind of tried to rush it instead (that didn't work out either)
+Jack Girdlestone trench war was much used in the latter of ww1. The earlier days, alot of open field battles where both charge at each other and alot of massacres by machine guns and airplanes
it was ... epic ... but I see two problems with this fight (and maybe more but others are due to the game itself) 1: the Americans are clearly on a field that benefits them, flat, and modify to have zones of shooting and trenches ... and especially ... deforested ... the kind of ground hard enough to find in japan 2: the samurai have spent more time to walk than to run, this which involves taking more bursts ... (after the main other problem that does not come from the viodeo, it is the Ricans who fight with the saber instead of the ballionnete ... I understand the developer, model a duel katana / ballionnete would have been pretty hard ...) ... but otherwise ... fucking good video ... poor samurai
I honestly want to know what mod was used in this game to have the US army men and those devestating cannons because i want to try a "Last Samurai" kind of situation.
You know, from a historical perspective you basically can't take this seriously. But what if a small regiment of U.S Marines did go against a traditional Sengoku army? For one, the Japanese wouldn't just have sword-wielding foot samurai. They'd have a decent cavalry arm, lots of ashigaru, and plenty of matchlock guns. What they would totally lack is artillery. So, perhaps in the hands of a competent general, the samurai could win at heavy losses- assuming it's an army of veterans, the U.S soldiers would be destroyed in melee, and their muskets would be roughly matched by the range of an arqebus. I also think that at extreme range, a musket round might be less effective against metal armor, whereas the marines don't have armor and are vulnerable to any projectiles. So perhaps a skillful Japanese commander could play off his few advantages and win. It's unlikely, but at the same time medieval Japanese warfare is roughly analogous to medieval/pike-and-shot European warfare- and while the knight and the armored footman of a typical Renaissance army were obsolete by 1854, they were obsolete because conscription had become the established norm. The musket may have become deadly effective, but metal body armor continued to be used in limited success until WW1 (Brewster Body Armor, successful in stopping bullets but cumbersome) and WW2 (Russian SN armor, success proven by link: bag-of-dirt.tumblr.com/post/117804444520/portrait-of-a-young-soviet-pow-in-a-steel) So obviously the death of steel armor was a) the increasing power of the bullet but also accelerated by b) the difficulty in supplying steel armor to a post-Napoleonic army of conscripted commoner footmen. So I am actually going to say that a powerful Daimyo's army, if in competent strategic hands, might win. Shit, Shaka Zulu didn't have steel armor or cavalry and he kicked British ass a few times with good strategy- I think the Japanese have an even better chance. A Infantry Square ain't gonna do shit against 1,000 pissed-off ji-samurai with katanas and matchlocks. And anyone with a bayonet on his ungainly rifle is going to have a spear pushing through his throat.
Alexandro Quinteiro I totally agree. But by the end of that period the Japanese had developed cannons. And at that time the cannon was in such an infantile stage that a more perfected mangonel or trebuchet would've done equal if not more damage.
Alexandro Quinteiro Zulus won 2 major battles across the whole war they lost far more than they won. A handful of marines were sent to stop Tunisian pirates and they did there job. No doubt the samurai would have advantages but so would Marines. They aren't simple line infantry or militia, marines have always been knit and grit ever since they were founded. They are more skilled in a melee and extremely accurate. bayonets would be for precision strikes and sabres would have a style samurai would not be used to fighting. Not to mention officers had revolvers . Being modern is eastern Standards is not the same as western standards. Historically we know western guns beat eastern swords.
2:54-2:57 that guy on the left got blown away ,did a back flip and land perfectly
Who is that samurai? A stuntman?
@annoying goose me too
@@rando23232 Tom Cruise!
@@rando23232 The anime protagonist.
3:23 he wasn't soo luky the next time :(
that artillery is just BRUUUTAL
Now compare it to the shit artillery in empire
Lord Dim 1 Empire was a long time ago my friend...
Lord Dim 1 yeah because 1700's arty is totally comparable to like mid 1800's. That's like complaining that the muskets were too inaccurate
František Dejm shit was like ww1 style
Who artillery
15:42 THAT KICK THOUGH !!
+Gabriel Vincentz Hah, not in my house!!! lol
Lmao xD
damn hahahaha
anyone else think that the smaziu only survive if you play as them
Oliver Hanson deez nuts
Those US marines was just spreading democracy.
about 400 democracy per minute ...
lol
good one! America!!
NICE ONE LOL
***** actually the democracy spreading rate of a 19th century gatling gun is about 400 per minute.
Hey, they needed some good liberating.
0:47 "Dollar to the man who finds my hat!"
Also, 5:35
classic officer :)
Samurai spend their whole lives training and meditating. They hone their blades and some believed the katana of the samurai was spiritually linked to its owner. Becoming a samurai was a lifetime commitment and it meant honor in its deepest form.
It takes a factory a couple of hours to make a full batch of rifled muskets and about 2 weeks to learn everything you need to work it.
+Star Foth Absolutely sickening isn't it?
+Star Foth That's the advantage in technological power : a soldier died ? Just reproduce a musket and arm it to another soldier and the fighting strength is replenished, quickly, easily and cheap
Linh T That's the whole point
Luke Koziol Some samurai were Shinobi as well. Ninja is a proffesion, not a clan
Star Foth ain't war a bitch?
I wonder how many Freedoms per minute were fired?
+Dayton Lam At least 120 per volley per unit.
+welp that Except maybe, the freedom of speech and religion, but other than that, all the freedoms. All the freedoms.
Scrublord Mcgee jajaha
Scrublord Mcgee not enough
The Crimson Fucker Legend has it more freedoms then the revolutionary, civil, and Iraq war combined.
15:13 I'm just imagining one of the gun crew members saying "Sir, do you hear something?"
*Looks to the thousands of samurai storming on their position* "...yep."
BATTLE FORMATIONS
5:36
samurai 1 : ok you kill that one ima take a peak over the hill here
samarai 2: ok man
samarai 1: looks cle...
Unparagoned Studios yassss 😂😂😂
He got obliterated
just like ww1
The whole line shot that one dude, wtf bruh
5:37 Precision accuracy right there. Completely eviscerated that man with their fellow comrade not even a blood splatter length away. Now that's one hell of a save
5:37
Just brutal, epic. Poor guy finally made it only to get shot 300 times.
R.I.P
Bro got the trench treatment :o
This is why we need Total War: Victoria
The more modern you get the more boring it will be. Trust me
StickManVS I agree. I think that if there is a line, it should be WW1 where formation warfare died out. Aside from a Victorian era total war, they could also make one for renaissance pike and shot (1500-1700), the Three Kingdoms, Bronze or Iron age, or the Mongols, which could stand in for Medieval 3.
Not to mention lots of fantasy titles since they're working on Warhammer.
SlyBiffrons Seven Years War would be great
John Constantine We already had that in Empire.
SlyBiffrons also for anything in the "bronze or iron age" there's pretty much just either of the Rome games and their expansions
5:37 that is is what happened to Call Of Duty when Battlefield 1 was announced.
Exaxtly! LMAO! XDDDD
thats why none was buying battlefield ;)
Chris Markakis wtf dude?
Chris Markakis You're defending cod or what?
+TopKek Chris is the special kind of a person
5:36
OH MY GOD
oh snap, good find!
that guy needs to have a huge statue of hes self Build on the field like the colosus and named Bad Luck Brian ... surviving all the way there and get killed by 564 bullets on hes body because everyone there Hates him ! they were like , "ITS THAT GUY GET HIM!"
I'm surprised the gun crew didn't get wiped out too!
David Frigault I didn't know that was an option, but it did look strange at times so makes sense.
David Frigault wait, you can disable friendly fire? It wasn't disabled in this video.
Men flying through the air, carnage everywhere, bullets flying all around you, running toward death. I would be like im going back like 5 seconds in
Quantum Gaming and the rockets
3:08 HOLY SHIT! What was that?
That was freedom knocking
Its called a canister shot
More like superior American firepower.
El_Bartto
Micheal bay
Freedom on steroid.
10:50 weeeeee
2:59 Were good, just regroup with the other squad
3:06 OH SHIT WE JUST GOT HERE (DIES)
Holy frock they got obliterated
Now just imagine this battle where the samurai are controlled by a human player too. That'd be even more intense! At least, I kinda get the feeling that was the AI, since the enemy army was marching at a leisurely walk through murderous artillery fire, as only Total War's AI can.
5:30 You made it! Come on you two, you can do it!
5:35
Excuse my language but this guy got FUCKED UP!!! O_O
No harm done,It happens
+Lone Wanderer Amen!
+Lone Wanderer Sludge. At that point, his body would've been reduced to sludge. They'd have to bury him in a jar.
+David Frigault this is fattest sarcasm i ever heard.
yeah that was funny as
5:31 reminded me of the movie "The last samurai"
Awesome movie
The company from Game of War stole your footage to advertise their game.
Lord Floyd EVERYONE seems like they're stealing this footage for their cheap ass games.
Lord Floyd
Were?
Can u give me a link?
link please
How have they not been used yet
3:07 micheal bay?
Can you Otakus just stop saying that 'The US has no honour', Honour dont mean jack shit. It was a huge part of Japanese warrior culture, but even then most samurai were scumbags, not much different from Knights of the Middle Ages. Honour does not mean anything on the Battlefield.
true
+Richard Wheeldon And the samurais used shit tons of guns themselves
The Northenface In the later period of Japan, sure enough. It was more effective, so why bother with swords? Real Bushido right there.
***** True. Granted, they did duel, however by that same logic snobby Englishmen from the 1700s are also incredibly honourable. They were a well armed, fighting social elite that would do anything to win, save a few exceptions. In short, they were no different than knights.
+Blank Ball The cute part was the "honor" thing wasn't even a factor in Japanese warfare until there was no longer Japanese warfare. The Gekkokujo and Sengoku were all about sneak attacks, hidden alliances, and fostering internal betrayal.
Imagine if you were one of the guys now, man that's some major PTSD right there!
i just love how the samurais just keep their cool
Lol so true
Opening a can of democracy.
I thought this was an insanely cool battle. especially since the battle was so close, only 300 marines left, and the AI pulled the most intense feint ever! I though that main charge to the center line was all of it's forces but it was a fucking feint!
that first barrage was brutal
5:25 That band of brothers is knowingly charging towards their own death to halt the enemy fire and give their allies an opportunity to push forward.
Rest in peace.
> a small US Marines force
4,400 men
Compared to the Samurai
Hans Gryphon a third is hardly considered small when we are talking thousands of men.
Figure out how much is usually in a marine force and compare it to 4,400.
Link 8 Using modern standards? Yeah, 4,400 is a lot. But massive pitched battles were common back then, a battle with only 16,000 soldiers could be considered minor. And the Samurai had a 3 to 1 numbers advantage on the Marines, so I'd say that the Marine force was pretty small.
Dagda Mor
You are not grasping the point, there are 4,400 fucking marines fighting a pitched battle. Numbers that large are unheard of for marines and pitched battles are dead and gone.
And 16,000 is not a minor battle, you've been tricked into thinking that battles were massive fights between 100,000s of men - nope.
It says in discription that there are 2700 marines + supporting imperial japanese forces.
that's what u call artillery baby.. hooolllllyyy coww
How awesome was it!! :D
Whoever was controlling the samurai deserved to lose after *walking* a good 3 squads straight into heavy artillery fire.
I belive the person who commanded the samurai was general A.I he is well known for beeing bad at total war games
How did they not rout in 30 seconds under all that artillery fire?
He's using the no moral mod as stated in the description
+Star Foth also much courage, samurai never surrender!
Ok, my bad XD.
this reminds me of the last samurai
+Darryl Conte Me to
Me to
Everybody too.
Same
+Darryl Conte I'm pretty sure that last Samurai that got his head lopped off by the cavalryman was played by Tom Cruise.
Oh my gosh, Seeing all of that artilery and all of the explosions, I hope the "Total War" franchise adds something related to World War 2 or 1, Maybe even the American Civil War even.
Mod for the civil war in empire it's alright but boring .
+Tangy Slash They really should add WW1, or, at least, something related to the Victorian era. Maybe some alt-history type stuff?
The Crimson Fucker indeed.
Kill Russians Haven't played it either, but from what I've seen, it's janky as hell.
***** Eh, true. Now what would be REALLY cool is if there was a modern warfare TotalWar title, I'd love it and play it 24/7.
3:01
This guy survives a near-direct cannon shot, gets up like "Hey guys, wait for me!", and then watches his whole unit just gets annihilated. He's coming back with major PTSD, if he survived at all.
3:07 look at those Canon loans coming
*fires artillery* *hits samurais* *samurai stands up* I'm fine
I guess never bring a sword to a gun fight. Or, would it be more fitting to say always bring a gun to a sword fight?
Love how the Gatling guns are pointed at the ground but shoot straight ahead.
Tom Cruise would be so proud.
They did a remake of that IRL on Saipan few decades later.
My gosh I didn't think the samuri would make it pass the cannons
The beast fight I've seen so far keep it up man :-)
Theres no way in hell there would have been a sitting army that well equipped in Japan. You could have at least let a few samurai live
Absolutely amazing. This was entertaining, thank you.
You have a new subscriber now. :)
Today the Royal Marines are an elite commando unit whereas the US Marine Corps is exactly what it says on the tin - a Corps a standalone army that dwarfs the entire British army on its own. The differences between the two are huge you cant compare them.
this is my favourite battle. well done
Why are samurais walking out of the ocean?
+Bill Marion You dont know? Japan had back then about 5000-6000 Aquasamurais ;D
+MasterEvarior Aquasamurais!! xD LOL
...In all of the time I've watched Total War videos, I have never seen such a brutal and one-sided battle... especially with that one samurai guy at 5:36
I think I have PTSD after watching this. Epic!!!!!!
the beginning of the battle was the most brutal battle i ever saw!
+gary foxworthy and the whole battle
Good recording. How did you get it to not lag though? My game lags pretty bad during large battles and I have a very powerful computer.
By far the best cannon gameplay I’ve ever seen.
The cannons in Fall of the Samurai are awesome to use. Having a few in your army almost all but guarantees you will win. Their range and power is unmatched.
never seen such a brutal tw vid haha good job
is shogun 2 and fall of the samurai worth it? im thinking of purchasing it on steam
This is how you spread democracy.
Phuri wot mate I can't hear ya with the sound of democracy speading
Historically though, there were actually alot of upsets in battle losses for the modern armies during these conflicts. Some of them are really remarkable
Yeah, but those are special circumstances, such as Isandalwana and Little Bighorn. A prepared, entrenched modern arm at this time would absolutely destroy any native army many times their size. Look at Rorke's Drift, or the Battle of Blood River.
Samurai also used modern weapons at this time
5:12 Reduced to shreds in seconds!
Nothing quite highlights the brutality of war than seeing thousands of skilled Japanese warriors get utterly devastated by cannon fire, machine gun fire, and rifle gunfire.
Damn 17:00 marines turn n ran when the samurais charging.
The careful use of retreating and regrouping near the end is why the marines won this battle. If they had entered melee, they wouldn't have been able to gun them down from multiple angles the way they did, luring the samurai into the fire. Of course when only 10% of your men survive it's hardly a 'victory'.
***** wow guns n artillery vs only swords? Still get slaughtered. No very brave
David Frigault that is a good quote!
I enjoyed how you tried to set the marines up for failure. A whole goddamn battery would NOT target 12 dudes. The AI, however, simply chooses the closest unit, regardless of number. This is a good lesson for gameplay. Pick your targets using common sense. There is a HUGE deficit in the AI process at range.
Fun to watch, anyway.
WHAT IS THIS MAP ?!?!
That opening artillery salvo was devastating.
Gate series in a nutshell.
Well almost. In gate they have gunships tanks and fighterjets too.
"SIR our men is getting bombarted and shot at do you want them to spred out so there a smaller target!?" "Nahh its good we have better numbers what could go wrong"
Hey Gen. Oda, I would love to play shogun w/ u sometime
Soldier : I'm fine guys 3:00
Artillery firinig
Soldiers: That didn't hurt . 3:13
Artillery firing again
Soldiers all Dead
5:35 =monster kill
2:11 guy just casually gets back up and continues marching
why wouldn't you spread those samurai. it like lets group together here guys for easier death
Why do entire units stop shooting when they go into melee? Maybe the front several ranks of marines would use bayonets and swords but as many as possible would continue loading and shooting. These games don't seem to allow for that?
gat569 To prevent Friendly fire. I would be extremely pissed if I had a mele fight and that asshole M8 still shoots in your direction.
At 3:23 that's wut happens to all the cod fans that refused to become BF fans
You have been warned
Do Western-Fencing units not have any special animations for dueling, executing, and getting executed to the different weapons in-game? Even bayonets don't have special animations from what I know, they just re-use naginata animations.
So...Who got the dollar for finding his hat?
Yeaahhh! Shogun 2 big battles are the best! :D
accuracy of that marines is crazy UNREAL...and also the warriors running in should spread into big cloud not run like a crowd and being killed by tens for one explosion...kind of dissapointed that game BASED on tactics dont show this basic elements of attact tactics....i hope you understand what iam trying to say...i think even in rome total war first was ability to make your unit to spread more to avoid being killed by arrows fast
I like how if your flank is attacked, only the soldier on the flank will engage in melee, instead of the entire firing line disrupting into the shape of a drunken snake and preparing swords and bayonets.
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MSF soldier Alligator Well we all know historically the western guns beat eastern swords so yeah shitty pig iron katanas loose this one.
MSF soldier Alligator timestamps are the best part
lol how the artillery pointing downward while still able shooting straight..
japan never knew how to surrender...
+Benjamin Newman They're fucking badasses unlike those Frenchies.
Alex Charismatic
french guns :never fired, dropped once.
Benjamin Newman France has been one of the strongest nations in history until their loss against Nazi germany, and since then people has been stereotyping them as "wusses"
+David Frigault How can you use the evacuation of Dunkirk as an example of German military might lol it was an unorganized retreat in which everyone died
Probably the longest comment on TH-cam I have just witnessed...
The last samurai be like
Oh god it's like World War Two all over again
+Darien Arthur (McArthur) in world war 1 they sat in trenches
+Jack Girdlestone they tried to use the traditional line formations, but were gunned down by artillery. So they just kind of tried to rush it instead (that didn't work out either)
+Jack Girdlestone trench war was much used in the latter of ww1. The earlier days, alot of open field battles where both charge at each other and alot of massacres by machine guns and airplanes
so wait, I couldn't see the ending. did the samurai win or the marines? somethings wrong with youtube
any same general would not attack that many cannons across open ground.
They are japanese samurai... DO YOU EXPECT THEM TO BE SANE OR SENSIBLE? OF COURSE NOT! NIPPON BANZAI!!!
Lord Dim 1 TENNO HEIKA BANZAI
There's a fine line between honor and stupidity. I believe these samurai were going for honor.
+jerry Le Yet they flopped on their faces, in stupidity and death xD
+jerry Le Well most real Samurai would have run away after the first cannon salvos.
Are all units available in rots,fots,and the original shogun 2 when i play a custom game>
it was ... epic ... but I see two problems with this fight (and maybe more but others are due to the game itself) 1: the Americans are clearly on a field that benefits them, flat, and modify to have zones of shooting and trenches ... and especially ... deforested ... the kind of ground hard enough to find in japan 2: the samurai have spent more time to walk than to run, this which involves taking more bursts ... (after the main other problem that does not come from the viodeo, it is the Ricans who fight with the saber instead of the ballionnete ... I understand the developer, model a duel katana / ballionnete would have been pretty hard ...) ... but otherwise ... fucking good video ... poor samurai
Damn this was so cool watching an army lack the technology the other side had but still fought I wouldve ran the second the first impact was made
dollar to the man who finds my hat
Is this the scene of the Last Samurai movie
US depends on their tech. superiority, They have no honor like the Samurai :P
Honor doesn't win battles, unfortunately. The samurai discovered that the hard way.
lol at samurai having honour.
You go fist fight a united state marine with that mentality.
What? You talking to me?
No devin, the guy who thought us marines rely entirely on technology.
I honestly want to know what mod was used in this game to have the US army men and those devestating cannons because i want to try a "Last Samurai" kind of situation.
Fall of the Samurai, it's a DLC (that can also be bought alone without the base game)
Good job giving the samurai no bows, cavalry or spears.
Rambodog2 Guns>archers,cavraly,spears
How do you keep the deadbodies in the map, in my shogun 2 they dissapear?
Alright, stop playing dead!😄
those canons OMG this shit is why I want empire 2 total war damit love those canons.
You know, from a historical perspective you basically can't take this seriously. But what if a small regiment of U.S Marines did go against a traditional Sengoku army?
For one, the Japanese wouldn't just have sword-wielding foot samurai. They'd have a decent cavalry arm, lots of ashigaru, and plenty of matchlock guns. What they would totally lack is artillery. So, perhaps in the hands of a competent general, the samurai could win at heavy losses- assuming it's an army of veterans, the U.S soldiers would be destroyed in melee, and their muskets would be roughly matched by the range of an arqebus. I also think that at extreme range, a musket round might be less effective against metal armor, whereas the marines don't have armor and are vulnerable to any projectiles.
So perhaps a skillful Japanese commander could play off his few advantages and win. It's unlikely, but at the same time medieval Japanese warfare is roughly analogous to medieval/pike-and-shot European warfare- and while the knight and the armored footman of a typical Renaissance army were obsolete by 1854, they were obsolete because conscription had become the established norm. The musket may have become deadly effective, but metal body armor continued to be used in limited success until WW1 (Brewster Body Armor, successful in stopping bullets but cumbersome) and WW2 (Russian SN armor, success proven by link: bag-of-dirt.tumblr.com/post/117804444520/portrait-of-a-young-soviet-pow-in-a-steel)
So obviously the death of steel armor was a) the increasing power of the bullet but also accelerated by b) the difficulty in supplying steel armor to a post-Napoleonic army of conscripted commoner footmen.
So I am actually going to say that a powerful Daimyo's army, if in competent strategic hands, might win. Shit, Shaka Zulu didn't have steel armor or cavalry and he kicked British ass a few times with good strategy- I think the Japanese have an even better chance. A Infantry Square ain't gonna do shit against 1,000 pissed-off ji-samurai with katanas and matchlocks. And anyone with a bayonet on his ungainly rifle is going to have a spear pushing through his throat.
Alexandro Quinteiro I totally agree. But by the end of that period the Japanese had developed cannons. And at that time the cannon was in such an infantile stage that a more perfected mangonel or trebuchet would've done equal if not more damage.
Mmmm.
This was not meant to be Historically accurate to my knowledge.
Alexandro Quinteiro Zulus won 2 major battles across the whole war they lost far more than they won. A handful of marines were sent to stop Tunisian pirates and they did there job. No doubt the samurai would have advantages but so would Marines. They aren't simple line infantry or militia, marines have always been knit and grit ever since they were founded. They are more skilled in a melee and extremely accurate. bayonets would be for precision strikes and sabres would have a style samurai would not be used to fighting. Not to mention officers had revolvers . Being modern is eastern Standards is not the same as western standards. Historically we know western guns beat eastern swords.
so is there us military in the game orr