You welcomed sir, I respect you guys who has human compassion and not wanting lives wasted on war, poverty, and famine. We have to take care of the EARTH, SHE IS ALL WE HAVE. KEEP INVENTING STUFF 4 OUR PLANE - T. THE EARTH IS FLAT !
@@sinclaircooper5091 SMH... it's written in Isa 40:22 It is he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof are as grasshoppers; that stretcheth out the heavens as a curtain... you say potato i say potahto, you like oysters, i like ersters... Lets call the whole thing off! we'll agree with Engineer 775 water heater stove
I find it amazing that we are talking about this as viable option for hot water. 60 years ago we had a back boiler being heated by our wood fire. If we wanted a bath we had to light the fire and wait an hour. We thought we had really hit technology when we had an electric immersion heater installed.
This is literally how my radiators and hot water work in my house in England from a coal fire, I’d point out a couple of safty and efficiencies you can make. A header tank with a float (ball) valve will give you continuous hot water, with the added bonus that you can put a vent, allowing pressure release so it won’t burst the main tank under heat. Also, cold water should enter the BOTTOM of the hot water tank, just lift the tank higher than the fire. Hot water rises as you know, so if you take the hot water from the tank at the top, you are always using the hottest water in the tank. It’s worked here for 150 years or so! Excellent video!
Good stuff mate. You'll be fine when Putin raises gas prices to all time high. Wont be surprised if more british households revert to this method of water heating to keep warm. Dark times ahead.
Another brit here, glad to see that others are keeping these traditions going! Funnily enough I want to do a self build and asked a load of people of they liked my idea of having a wood burner to heat the whole house and use hot air that's heated by the burner to ventilate the property. They were like 'that'll never work or pass building regs you need solar panels, an air source heat pump and a mechanical ventilation system installed'. It'll only cost an additional £25k but you'll save money in the long run, what a joke! We need to embrace some of these older technologies that are probably more eco friendly than all this new tech.
@@relaxingsounds3952 my stoves are all multi fuel, so I’m the deepest and darkest of times I can use coal if the alternative is freezing.... but wood works most of the time if you remember to feed it properly. Stoves are good, they don’t mess around with moving energy hundreds or miles and or burning rubbish where the heats not needed. Good luck with the building!
@@relaxingsounds3952 Burning wood is one of the dirtiest fuels we can use. If everyone switched to wood, or coal, no one would be able to breath and cities would turn black and you would never see the sun again. I am not against it for a cabin, or rustic homestead, or antique home. I had an "Oyster House" in New Haven, Connecticut and loved it. It was wood burning, then coal fired. It had an amazing Victorian boiler system. I used wood. The stoves and ovens were also wood burning. I think geothermal is the way to go for climate control. The drilling is not expensive and the equipment can be made yourself with common hardware. The best way I have seen to heat water for showers and baths is the electric coil, instant hot water heaters, like the shower heads in South America. Without electricity, then, this method above. But, tanking hot water is such a waste. Feed the water thru the coil and right to its point of use. If you want to store the heat, build a chimney/stove/oven with a lot of mass with secondary coils in the mass.
Not sure if anyone else has mentioned this, but if your hot water is running to sealed vessel such as hot water tank, always make sure it has a temperature, pressure relief valve or an open head so not to blow your self up, great way to get hot water!
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Yes, you can heat water with a pot on a stove. The video is a demonstration of thermosiphoning. I have been heating 150 gallons to 185 degrees, a day for 8 year with wood.
I really don't see why you think this such a great thing? Wood isn't environmentally friendly, cheap or easy to come by or anything. At least not where I live.
i think it is a good idea for practical off grid & such & wood is no problem where i am , but you could use other materials such as, leaves , manure of sorts , paper saw dust or shaving's from a local mill or building sites maybe . P S mine is working good too ty engineer775 but my coil is set behind my pot belly stove & made like a radiator
David Deblaere What makes you think that wood is any worse than other energy sources? Heck, I and walk out behind my house and have enough wood to heat water and my entire house for years. Seems easy to come by to me.
Well we kind of need the trees for other stuff too :) I'm no expert but I can't imagine that the burning process of wood isn't as efficient as other (fossile) fuels. I don't think you get the same amount of energy from burning a log than burning the same amount of fuel. And for most people wood is scarse, takes room to store and time to dry.
David Deblaere It's not much good if you're a city dweller, but for us folks who use wood as our winter heat source, thermosiphoning is a handy, simple way to heat water. I have attached one to my outdoor wood stove as it is not exactly safe for inside.
Our household hot water was heated by our wood burning kitchen stove in the same way. The system was pressurized but the actual circulation of water between the heating chamber on the side of the firebox and hot water tank was convection. We used to feel the side of the tank and you could clearly tell the exact level of water in the tank was hot, that's how you judged if there was enough to take a shower. Early internal combustion engines also relied on convection, our old two cylinder John Deere tractors had neither water pump nor thermostat. Nice clean setup and educational demonstration by the way, thanks for sharing.
We made one of these for our Boy Scout troop when I was a kid! They work great! We put our cold water supply just a bit higher and our hot water retrieval bucket lower.
The income of cold water entering ? Your not saying how much to set valve opening to allow cold water in ? So give time for coil to recover making hot water ? How much should you have cold valve open too in order to work ??
i think the water would be way too hot, but that would also help in a no electricity situation. you could mix less of it with the cold water to get comfortably hot water
@@trenn10 well, if you want to use the water for a bath or something, waiting for the water to cool or putting scathing hot water into the tub might be bad. So if you want the water to be a fixed temperature, you would need a heater to keep the warmed water at that temperature which requires electricity. So mixing it with cold water automatically and being able to adjust how much might be best.
In the UK ages ago, houses relied on heat from a real fire. Most fireplaces had a BACK BURNER, which heated water, which filled a tank by convection current. The hot rank was strategically located to act as a radiator. With just these simple devices, the whole house was kept warm, and had free hot water. We got all complicated when gas central heating took over.
A lot of old homes had hot water heat even schools had a boiler room. I wouldn't knock it because that kept the classrooms warm in the winter. Spring the fans were used to cool a classroom. 73
And in a true "grid down" scenario, our entire concept of wealth will be redefined. Those who have bits of copper, a few gallons of propane or the tools to properly solder metals will be considered middle class...those with operational solar technology will be kings
I appreciate you showing this, I remember when we didn't have plumbing when I was a kid. I was born and raised in Alaska. off grid living is the best. My mom heated everything on the woodstove and washed us in a big tub as kids. We hauled all our water and I plan on going right back to the simple times. I miss smelling like woodsmoke♡. Lol! Great vid, thanks again for sharing
I grew up in Alaska, 32 years. I’m in Texas now, but the lessons learned in the Bush are treasures that these southerners don’t get. Last week we had a record cold snap here that lasted nearly a week. Got down to 11° where I live. Peoples pipes froze and busted. Now they’re waiting a month and a half for a plumber. 75 people froze to death, most in their homes. My pipes didn’t freeze, my family didn’t freeze, we didn’t starve either.
Many years ago we lived in a war torn country with little technology. My uncle couldn't afford a hot water tank, so he created a small chamber between the house ceiling and the bathroom ceiling (an in-between crawl space) and installed a metallic tank there. Underneath the tank, he lit a candle and no kidding, they always had hot water.
@@mikemcbain4250 It's the appropriate combination. The metal water tank was installed on the roof of the bathroom and underneath the house ceiling, so that, and the fact that heat goes up naturally, the air around the tank was always warm. The candle was lit hours underneath the tank before wash time and it worked perfectly.
Isolate from what? No, he means insulate. Insulate means adding material that slows down the transfer of heat. We are not separating anything from anything. We are ot isolating anything.
My grandmother used to make tea by boiling water in a kettle made of solid copper, the fire she made was her yard woods waste. It was so pleasant sitting around fire with her and drinking the tea and listening to her stories. She also made bigger volume of hot water by using her big copper pot for washing dishes and other use. She also had samovar, which is a Russian made very decorative boiling tool for making tea. It was made out of solid copper with chimney in the middle, encapsulated by water in the copper shell. I kinda like my grandmas !!!
This is how my dad made hot water for us when we were camping, fishing, hunting even in the winter. Just made a 2 or 3 rap coil of 1/2 inch copper tube attached to a couple of lengths steam gun hose to a 20 GB metal barrel with 2 through hull fittings one high one close to the bottom. Just put the copper coils in the bottom of where your camp fire will be fill the drum up with cold water from the lake or stream keep it topped up from time to time. Just take the lid off. Dip a pot or ladle in remove some hot water replace the lid to keep falling objects out. This system can boil water quite quickly. So don't let the water drop below the lower or outflow from your water drum. Before that happens remove your copper coils from the fire or top up the water. If your lines to the fire go dry you have a very good chance of damaging your copper coils and your steam gun flex lines. Possibly even melting your copper coils.
@@carpballet it's a goofy mistake for sure, more likely to be talking about metal wall thickness than data storage though... what I can I say, I know how geeks think
True that! 23 years ago dating my now wife... I told her I had a hot tub... N it was on. We went out back and what she seen was a kiddy pool with 2 heaters from waterbeds placed under it. She laughed at first but was down like 4 flat tires when the steam started rolling up. And here we are. I always get a smile from her to this day....when I quote ol Tom Green. If they don't find ya handsome at least they will find ya handy!...good times
@@Gachalifeluver_1122 you mean Red Green, he had the Red Green show. Two entirely different Canadians haha. Fun Fact tho: Tom Green lives in a van now.
Would love to see how the coil is fit into the stove, any possibility of a tear down video or an explanation of how the stove was assembled? Awesome contraption thank you for sharing it!
Great question! I’m not very mechanically inclined but I’ve started trying to learn things for my son and I so when shit hits the fan I have the ability to still provide for him!
You dont actually need to fit it on the inside, many other channels simply fit it around the outside of the stack.. just above the fire it still provides ample heat to boil water
This is a pretty cool idea. I have to say though, if you made it out of stainless and made some baffles to slow the exhaust down you could drag a LOT more heat out of it. The modern boilers are 90%+ efficient with this design. The exhaust gas temp leaving them is so low you can run it through PVC pipe, however the water vapor extracted from the flue gasses is corrosive so you need to make your chambers stainless. You were measuring the outside of the boiler at 570-580 degrees. High outside temps mean all those extra BTU's are going to waste. Wrap it in fiberglass insulation and it will help.
I was thinking the same thing about wrapping everything up. Especially the tubing from the coil back to the tank could be losing a lot of heat. I love the idea, though. With just some minor modifications this would be great for SHTF or off the grid living.
I really like the system you have built. I particularly like that you used recycled parts, too. Obviously, the system could be more efficient but that would make it much harder to build and complicated. In a crunch, simple always aces complex. Well done.
@@joeboudreault2226 What is charitable of the perpetual lies supplied to us and all entities by the U.S. government for the past 240+ years? I ask on behalf of your climate comment.
@@johnlorraine204 I simply meant that shooting a 'climate police" person wasn't charitable. I'd probably agree with you regarding climate lies from governments. Just live Truth and be done with it.
The unit heats up fast and is super quiet. It looks fancy th-cam.com/users/postUgkxl8Od2BvnGbn1ffwqsuFXW0QnmcZgMiVY and can be kept in the living room. It gets hot within a split second of turning on the unit. The build quality is exceptionally good and is safe to be around kids and pets. This one is super quiet and can be kept on while in office meetings, my wife loved it. It shows the temperature right on the unit which is very useful and adding a rotating feature helps to heat up the surrounding, so other people will not fight with you for heat. It is right as described in the description..!! Definitely recommend!!
I live completely off grid and I don’t have hot water running to my cabin. I heat water on my wood burning stove. I’ve been looking into something like this for some time now
James Cookston consider getting a "portable LPG water heater", just get one from ebay, you can get a good unit for under $200. They come as a kit with all the required fittings and a small 12v pump you can run off your car battery, if you don't have a car, buy a 12v battery and a cheap 12v solar charge kit. I used one for several years before I built my rocket water heater and solar thermosiphon combo system. From experience these little LPG systems are a must have for anyone going off grid and setting up as they go. Used a 9kg gas tank every 6 - 8 months, showering everyday and using it to wash dishes etc, so it was only costing me $40 a year in gas. Unless you have all the tools and knowledge to build a wood burner right away, take the path of least resistance and make life easy on yourself.
My old apartment in Japan had basically this system to heat up the tub. Only difference is it used gas instead of wood. Worked great, though we had to wait for 20 minutes or so to take a bath
Yes I agree, I understand the process but would really like to see the assembly, especially the "cap" he talked about to keep the heat in the chamber??? I can only wonder and assume that the "cap" is a flat cap the of is 8"to10" reducing to a 4" to 6" ??? But I'm sure E775 is to busy to remake a video for the assembly... What are your thoughts, and questions you were hoping to get answered by an assembly video??? Also his Lil wood stove reminds me of a rocket stove???
Yes, please if you would do a COMPLETE STEP-BY-STEP assembly process from beginning to end would be EVEN MORE helpful, needed and Sooooo appreciated! (Hope I'm not assuming ... but sometimes to brilliant people like this those steps seem unnecessary however, to the rest of us we need those added steps to help is fill in the blanks! Thank you ... Hope to see a part 2 soon Thank yoi
I nearly became homeless a few years ago I was living I'm my car I didnt want a heater in the car because of carbon monoxide made something smiler with a charcoal burner in a metal box to the side of the car then piped the water inside the car to a automotive heater core with a little 12v fan it worked amazing I could wear a t shirt when it was snowing I ended up helping a few people do similar who where also living in there car Edit I should mention I had a t piece on the cold return side with a open bit of pipe so it couldn't pressurise alltho it could cool scalding water to luke warm so I probly would have gotten away without it
Sir you did a fantastic straight to the point presentation! Not only is this efficient, but safe, and actually free hot water! I was thinking either more coils or a larger 1/2" copper pipe, would improve the heating process. To me, this is the way to heat water using no electricity, no propane, just some small branches of dried wood!
This reminds me of when I was a child. We had a wood stove that heated our water. It worked on the same concept as this but on a larger scale. Cold water in a tank went into a copper tubing that coiled around a wood stove and then went back into the tank.
As of right now it is not useful. People have been claiming this knowledge "will soon be useful" for various reasons and one day they may be right, but as of right now there is no reason to believe this will be useful in our lifetime unless under very specific circumstances like trying to live off grid.
@@lazyh-online4839 Useful when the power goes out for a week during an ice storm. 'Course, we just usually heat water in buckets over a campfire, but this is probably less work and more wood efficient once it is set up.
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I love stuff like this. This and the ram water pump reminds me of what my Grandparents place use to have. They always had a fire going in the stove (Summer time outside, winter time inside), and eating GranMa's cooking!!!!
While there may or may not be a more efficient way to do this, given what is available or free on the road side. The majority of those that commented with questions on this post are the selected crowd. It is that cycle of life that will control. It was clearly stated if power goes out or off the grid use. It is so simple to understand in that if you don't you are the ones who will be the first to die. Young children are not simply suppose to draw their own bath water or have access to anything like this...and as for elderly that can't take care of themselves, they either have someone to do it for them just like now, or in the event of "needed" use for this device, will succumb to natural selection. And for those not given the intelligence of thought...gravity...simple gravity will give water pressure. God gave you a brain people..perhaps it's time some of you use it.
Thank you . I love that you use reperposed or easy to get materials . We had storms this past winter that had us out of power this would have been killer to have had.
You get better flow doing it your way. The syphoned water pulls water in faster while retaining more heat. You can also make a stile when hot water is not what you want with it. Cough...moonshine
I did something similar in my old camper. I ran 50 foot of 1/2 inch copper tubing around my water heater tank, then put the insulation back on it. I run the heater hoses through it. anytime I'm traveling, I got hot water, but you have to be careful. It will get to about 190 degrees(engine temp) instead of 120, like with propane or electricity.
I'm so glad I stumbled upon this video again,now I'm subscribed so I wont loose any of your videos. I'm going to build one if these in tandem with my batch rocket mass heater I've just stated. 2 thumbs up Engineer!
This is awesome! I'd be very interested in finding out more things you could do like this to live a normal modern life without relying on electricity so much. Looking forward to seeing more from you.
Holy cow it's an actually useful TH-cam video . This is fantastic , people are supposed to wait most of a full day when installing a new water heater tank to regulate itself ,
He makes a mistake, in lifting the outlet above the tanks water level, because that makes thermal siphoning impossible, the very thing he's purporting to show. What's moving the water here is steam, because the water inside the coil is allowed to boil from inability to move. The water in the coil being so hot, means a much lower temperature differential and thermal exchange, and it's not really moving in the first place, just gargling from the boiling. A proper thermal siphon creates continuous circulation, and is probably over 20 times as efficient as this.
Some people don't know but that copper pipe he has in his hand is soft copper and is sold in a roll. Just wrap it around the size of pipe you want and there it is. Very simple.
Unless you accidentally put a kink in the soft tubing you are correct. Filling with sand and capping the ends prevents a kink in the coil, that is the way I was taught to bend boiler tubes early in my working career but they are not soft as we had to use two acetylene bottles with a y marrying them together and oxygen with a large rosebud to custom fabricate them in emergency outages. I worked field construction so when a large megawatt turbine is idle time is precious making ordering a handful of tubes offsite was not timely or cost efficient if replacements were not available in a timely manner. Cost is a minor thing when for example a 500 megawatt turbine furnishes 500,000 homes with electricity. Sadly they are phasing our coal burning plants out and the trade is on the decline for that and other reasons. This dude used ice on this soft copper an option not a possibility with drawn steel. Great idea here though it works.
I plan to do this with my diesel heater exhaust to heat water in my house this winter. I'll be heating the water to just add humidity to the dry air in the winter, and emergency hot water if needed.
NOT SURE but this might work. Change plug on phone line from phone to network plug then buy dongle that goes from USB to to network plug than double female connector to plug everything in.
down in Mexico I saw a hot water heater that you put a paper bag full of kerosene soaked wood chips (you bought them from a guy on the street who came by daily) and it heated pretty quickly. the apartment we lived in had no hot running water and if you wanted a hot shower you went to the roof of the building where the shower room was and had enough hot water for 3 people
You can do an instant hot water heater like that. Seen it done to hot tub off grid. Simple to do. 55 gallon barrel and coils run in and out of barrel. In and out the barrel. Inlet of coil and out let at top of coil out the barrel. So simple for anyone to make. No need for a tank. Pump or no Pump
You are right i think he may have lied about the bending process at the beginning of the video he mentioned ice. My experience with tube like this is that it easiy splits best to use a proper bender. Cavalier presenters of ill thought out schemes can not be trusted.
*Or you could put a pan of water over a fire and pour the hot water into an insulated container. Works just as well, and you don't have to be a plumber to set it up.*
You figure this out once and you have hot water on demand. With you method you have hot water for a while and it's gone in a few minutes. This thing is 40 gallon of hotwater hot as in 🔥. Automated by burning some sticks you can find anywhere outside
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Cool idea, will circulate far better if you raise the cylinder higher than the stove. Very old school UK plumbing system called gravity circulation. Cold falls, hot rises. From a plumber
When I was a kid, we had a small potbellied stove in the basement with a coil running around the inside & a 50gal galvanized tank next to it. It was my job to start & keep the fire going whenever we needed hot water. - - - That was After we got running water in the house. Before that, I had to carry water from the well & fill a tub sitting over a firepit outdoors to heat water for laundry, baths ETC,
imchasinyou Yes K and L are similar. I actually didn't know you could get soft temper type K. Buck rogers does sound like some sort of cowboy hack. I'm in the 4th year of my apprenticeship as a plumber/gasfitter I'll have my ticket in like 6-8 months.
***** Yes even close - you can get K,L,M,H,DWV for pipe there is no such thing as "tomak copper pipe". What kind of hack shit are you doing making your own bends out of ridgid pipe? Buy some fittings and learn to solder.
Not sure I would consider Solar 100% free... solar panels are expensive. Figure in the costs of set-up, and usage, and I bet the wood powered water heater will be the more economical solution for years before you would ever catch up with the cost of the solar.
Hey! Yepp I’m seriously late with my reply :) However, I get a steady stream of hot water on the output, by restricting lengths of the coil…. I go from 5/8’s to 1/2, to 3/8’s to 1/4 inch…. Over the distance of the coil…. Been using this method for 5 years…. Also, I generally use coal in the boiler…you can leave it unattended for 8-10 hours…no problem :)
In theory the max height of a siphon is about 32ft above the water surface in the header tank. In practice you are safer to keep to 20ft. Also if any part of the siphon is even slightly above the water surface you need to fill the pipe manually any time you drain the system. But notice there is no real limit on how far the stove can be below the water tank. In a traditional upstairs hot water tank and downstairs stove (or back boiler) it fills itself nicely when you turn the water on. This should do the same if the coil is below the tank
True River I need to pump water upstairs! Thermostat siphon is a wood fired water pump... That makes me think you could pump water hundreds of feet if you have booster heaters
You can plumb that system directly into pressurized systems by removing the check so you can create a convection. Usually check valves have a spring loaded stopper which stop the flow. And be sure to have a way to release air trapped in high spots
This is it! This is what i was looking for, genius stuff! I imagine rolling the Copper around the outside of the chimney of the main fireplace so each morning you'll have hot water ready from heating the house?
if not joking)...I think heat rises, heat transfer to copper tubing wrap, GREAT! but to achieve maximum efficiency, wrap the outer coil w/a paste of some sort to transfer heat (also remember pressure safety) lol. Sorry over thinkin! LOL!
@@larrytolemy2621 Why sorry man..? 😇 Great advice from you! Good point on pressure, i definitely need to try this thing out before installing! Btw what did you mean by the paste to transfer the heat? Do you mean to not lose any heat to outside the coil? Thanks 😊
Just to add to the wood debate... storms came through my area and we had trees shattered across a 20 mile stretch. There's downed wood everywhere and it is actually a fire hazard in the woods until it decays (dry wood, wind and a spark = out of control fires). Burning wood and putting the ashes into a garden is a cycle patterned on nature when lightning torches hundreds of acres; the ash itself fertilizes new life that also cycle through the growth pattern. Which is why many mushroom hunters go out in burn areas and the plants reseed into 'new green' after the soil is replenished this way. My furnace is natural gas, and the fumes stink; I don't think Nature regularly burns oil anywhere. Maybe it's a 'natural product used unnaturally' due to human intervention.
Elaine Kain I live in northern Wisconsin! Downed trees aren't a fire hazard it's the 5 inch layer of dry pine needles! IF YOU CAN SMELL YOU'RE FURNACE BURNING! YOU SHOULD PROBABLY HAVE SOMEBODY LOOK AT IT!!
They add a chemical to natural gas so that you can smell it and detect leaks so you can leave your house if needed. Natural gas by itself has only a very slight aroma, if any, you might not pick up on it in time, depending on where it comes from.
"Haters gonna hate..." Enjoyed the video. I'm looking forward to experimenting with independent thermosiphon stuff around the house for heating living space and water. Our power goes out a lot during inclement weather, and I think having a way to heat water, cook, and stay warm without depending on the grid would be a great thing to have. Keep experimenting!
Well I’m heading up the Yukon in the spring and guess what? I’m probably going to now go with this set up. Because hey i like a nice hot shower The less power and money that i save will kick ass. Not everywhere you go will there be unlimited loads of power. I might even add more copper to the return line and then use the radiant heat to possibly help heat my trailer. Thanks for the video.
If other heating means are not available as in a remote location this is great, even then though bottled gas should be available unless it's an extremely remote area. But my costs of heating water are less than $1.00 a day making this hardly worth the trouble. Even if I only spent 20 minutes a day doing this that would be the equivalent of making or saving around $3 an hour. With an automatic system you have hot water when ever you want it which would be much more convenient. If you prefer to live off the grid though and have nothing else to do with your time then this is great. If I were to do this though I think I would rather design a system using a fire underneath a gas water heater, and not rely on the syphoning process.
A new video to show the set up start to finish for us non engineers would be great if you could do another! Thanks for doing this one.... retired nurse so not so mechanical and familiar with check valves, caps, etc.🙂
A gas water heater works and heats water without electricity.. But yeah I see what your doing here also which is very cool but I have a couple question: How would you go about adding pressure to this? By placing a hot water tank on the roof maybe with an overflow line going back to the cold water tank? And if you already have a sizable wood burning stove in your home could this system be retro-fitted to it somehow so the stove can be used to cook, heat the home and heat water?
+ElfNet Gaming years ago (30 or so) I heard of people doing something similar by wrapping copper tubing around their woodstove to heat water that would then go to a radiant heat system throughout their house/cabin. I'm not sure of all the mechanics involved but I'd heard it was done. I presume the system acted in part to how this hot water heater works. I'd heard this from an 'old timer' that grew up in the Upper Peninsula of Michigan. Your idea of placing the cold water tank on the roof or at least in an upper level should add a fair amount of gravity 'pressure' for the feed. The action of it being a 'thermal pump' is just like he stated in the vid...like a coffer percolator. I suppose for added pressure then possibly making it into a boiler or sorts would enable you to pressurize it as a steam system and use condenser coils to capture the water at the other end but remember blowoff valves. This idea just keeps getting better!
Bob The Ham Well I retired my 60 gallon gas water heater and put in a 40 gallon electric tank to run off the solar power I have here now. I was thinking of using the old gas tank as a reservoir of sorts now. I don't foresee my solar power system going tits up anytime soon as long as the sun is shining that is. But I was beating the idea of an stove heated on demand type system to take up the slack until the big tanks were heated.
+Bob The Ham Back in the day of my grandma there were wood stoves everywhere. They were usually coal fired cast iron monsters. Besides cooking they supplied the whole house with both heating and hot water.. i've seen one in action but I was only a kid. I just remember having to go out the back on a cold morning to the coal heap and get a bucket of coal for my friends mum on occasions!! we had that dangerous thing called 'an electric stove'.. God forbid! As my friends Grandma said "That electric thing will never catch on".. LOL
+bicanoo_magic Jane- My dad grew up in the old tenement houses in Scotland and when he was 12 they got rehoused in an 'All electric house' and boy was that exciting. Imagine the joy and magic.
Interesting. I've done this with a larger coil years ago in a basement. AND heated the entire house as well. But wood is messy and impractical except on the country. And you don't get cheap stovepipe anymore.
@@kantraxoikol6914 That's why you build the hot water into the tank over time, hence his reference to a 30 minute prep time. Since most tanks have thermal insulation it won't be an issue. Then you can take a nice hot shower, ect. The real issue if you wanted to nitpick would be that in a long term off grid situation, water collection to run such frivolous activities would be ineffective. However if it's a small grid down time, like say a week or in a remote area he can enjoy a hot shower/sanitize dishes, ecr while everyone else waits. Depends on your situation but you can easily get more than a squirt of hot water if you aren't an idiot.
That is very impressive. Several years ago I experimented with 15mm copper tube in the shape of a double "S", painted matt black to capture heat from the sun. The water got really hot, but there wasn't enough of it. Now in March 2022 energy prices are already sky high and will rise even further, so I may revisit the project and add another "S". But what I need is a water tank.
Pretty much all water heaters have a temperature and pressure relief valve (T&P valve). Some older ones may not have them but all modern heaters come with them standard.
Exactly what I was thinking, @MrOldclunker -- heat liquid in a permanently sealed metal vessel and... and... you have what old steamboat captains might call a disaster.
This is brilliant for someone who lives in the out back.all you need is a feeder tank which you can fill. with a t at top of tank bottom of t as feeder and top of t feeder of evaporation back into feeder tank.Electric 12 volt pump to pump water from solar panel .into a higher tank at top.then a pipe of 22mm from bottom for hotwater supply.another 22mm pipe connected to smaller pipe back
If you put a turbine on the chimney you should be able to hook up a generator, Or heck feed that access heat into a sterling engine and make some electricity, See how efficiant you can make it :D
Haha! Great ideas! Anywhere there's heat there's potential energy, and this thing is putting out LOADS of heat that could be used elsewhere. I don't know how much energy you could get from a turbine on this thing, but a sterling engine could totally work. I wish I lived where I could test this out.
If you can get enough power to run a LED light for an hour or two, that would be marvelous. I believe goal zero has a camp cooker with USB port for cellphone charging.
Because fossil fuels burn hotter, with less, producing less CO2. Also, fossil fuels have more energy per unit mass, meaning easier transportation through the whole nation easier. If the whole US were to turn to wood-stove heating we would most likely dwindle our forests faster than what we can reproduce. Source: Chemical Engineer
Your reply is absurd especially for someone "CLAIMING" to a "Chemical Engineer".... Have you ever heard of wood gasification? P.S its renewable. Source: Not your average idiot!
spartin No offence but that must be one dumb Chemical Engineer as a source. Fossil Fuels ... there are mainly 3 types Oil, Natural Gas and Coal. Apart from Natural gas Both Oil and Coal when processed and used produce SHIT loads of CO2 specially Coal. Fun fact Its not easy to transport Fossil Fuels and also they are getting rarer by the day. Fun Fact unlike Tree's you cannot renew or make new Fossil fuels as they take millions of years to be processed naturally.. Fun fact its faster to plant the renewable Tree compared to fossil fuels which are non renewable. Fun fact they teach this shit on Grade school.... Holy shit dude how did you conclude what you just said!? your answer killed 1 of my brain cell !
copperhound1 all my classes are about math and engineering. So, not only do I learn to trust what I learn but I also BUILD what I learn and see first hand how it's true. So yes, I trust what I learn in school.
What do you think of the solar water heaters? From what I yanked off a roof (I do panels) it was just a box with a coil and insulation. Can this be done DIY and not look like trash?
This is OG TH-cam. No bullshit, no buy merch. Straight to the point and very informative. Great job sir!!
Unfortunately he was found dead with his organs missing
@@wileecoyote5749 what ?
@@myhandleurl it's a joke because the government wouldn't want you to do this instead of paying taxes
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@@wileecoyote5749 it was obviously a suicide duh 🙄
This man and many others are showing how to survive in the future cause you gonna need it . and a cheap process
Thanks Sinclair!
You welcomed sir, I respect you guys who has human compassion and not wanting lives wasted on war, poverty, and famine. We have to take care of the EARTH, SHE IS ALL WE HAVE. KEEP INVENTING STUFF 4 OUR PLANE - T. THE EARTH IS FLAT !
Well thank you for the respect! Agree- Life is precious!
Hey engineer 775 Practical Preppers - DID YOU KNOW THE EARTH IS FLAT, NOT ROUND, NO CUVERTURE . JOIN THE MOVEMENT .
@@sinclaircooper5091 SMH... it's written in Isa 40:22 It is he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof are as grasshoppers; that stretcheth out the heavens as a curtain... you say potato i say potahto, you like oysters, i like ersters... Lets call the whole thing off! we'll agree with Engineer 775 water heater stove
I find it amazing that we are talking about this as viable option for hot water.
60 years ago we had a back boiler being heated by our wood fire. If we wanted a bath we had to light the fire and wait an hour.
We thought we had really hit technology when we had an electric immersion heater installed.
Yeah, we had the same on our coal fire
Me too. I miss it.
It's the utility companies. They charge top dollar for service. The worst thing that ever happened was Bush de-regulating them.
Nothing new under the sun.
Sign. We’re going backwards.
We have in our house combinated ( fire/electric) water heater all time ;)
This is literally how my radiators and hot water work in my house in England from a coal fire,
I’d point out a couple of safty and efficiencies you can make.
A header tank with a float (ball) valve will give you continuous hot water, with the added bonus that you can put a vent, allowing pressure release so it won’t burst the main tank under heat.
Also, cold water should enter the BOTTOM of the hot water tank, just lift the tank higher than the fire.
Hot water rises as you know, so if you take the hot water from the tank at the top, you are always using the hottest water in the tank.
It’s worked here for 150 years or so! Excellent video!
Good stuff mate. You'll be fine when Putin raises gas prices to all time high. Wont be surprised if more british households revert to this method of water heating to keep warm. Dark times ahead.
Covered that header tank and vent system when I took engineering back in1969. Thanks y’all
Another brit here, glad to see that others are keeping these traditions going! Funnily enough I want to do a self build and asked a load of people of they liked my idea of having a wood burner to heat the whole house and use hot air that's heated by the burner to ventilate the property. They were like 'that'll never work or pass building regs you need solar panels, an air source heat pump and a mechanical ventilation system installed'. It'll only cost an additional £25k but you'll save money in the long run, what a joke! We need to embrace some of these older technologies that are probably more eco friendly than all this new tech.
@@relaxingsounds3952 my stoves are all multi fuel, so I’m the deepest and darkest of times I can use coal if the alternative is freezing.... but wood works most of the time if you remember to feed it properly.
Stoves are good, they don’t mess around with moving energy hundreds or miles and or burning rubbish where the heats not needed.
Good luck with the building!
@@relaxingsounds3952 Burning wood is one of the dirtiest fuels we can use. If everyone switched to wood, or coal, no one would be able to breath and cities would turn black and you would never see the sun again. I am not against it for a cabin, or rustic homestead, or antique home. I had an "Oyster House" in New Haven, Connecticut and loved it. It was wood burning, then coal fired. It had an amazing Victorian boiler system. I used wood. The stoves and ovens were also wood burning.
I think geothermal is the way to go for climate control. The drilling is not expensive and the equipment can be made yourself with common hardware.
The best way I have seen to heat water for showers and baths is the electric coil, instant hot water heaters, like the shower heads in South America. Without electricity, then, this method above. But, tanking hot water is such a waste. Feed the water thru the coil and right to its point of use. If you want to store the heat, build a chimney/stove/oven with a lot of mass with secondary coils in the mass.
Not sure if anyone else has mentioned this, but if your hot water is running to sealed vessel such as hot water tank, always make sure it has a temperature, pressure relief valve or an open head so not to blow your self up, great way to get hot water!
It wasn’t sealed. There was no shut off valves! It was completely open
Whoa! This is a great tip! Thanks.
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Yes, you can heat water with a pot on a stove. The video is a demonstration of thermosiphoning. I have been heating 150 gallons to 185 degrees, a day for 8 year with wood.
I really don't see why you think this such a great thing? Wood isn't environmentally friendly, cheap or easy to come by or anything. At least not where I live.
i think it is a good idea for practical off grid & such & wood is no problem where i am , but you could use other materials such as, leaves , manure of sorts , paper saw dust or shaving's from a local mill or building sites maybe . P S mine is working good too ty engineer775 but my coil is set behind my pot belly stove & made like a radiator
David Deblaere What makes you think that wood is any worse than other energy sources? Heck, I and walk out behind my house and have enough wood to heat water and my entire house for years. Seems easy to come by to me.
Well we kind of need the trees for other stuff too :) I'm no expert but I can't imagine that the burning process of wood isn't as efficient as other (fossile) fuels. I don't think you get the same amount of energy from burning a log than burning the same amount of fuel. And for most people wood is scarse, takes room to store and time to dry.
David Deblaere It's not much good if you're a city dweller, but for us folks who use wood as our winter heat source, thermosiphoning is a handy, simple way to heat water. I have attached one to my outdoor wood stove as it is not exactly safe for inside.
Our household hot water was heated by our wood burning kitchen stove in the same way. The system was pressurized but the actual circulation of water between the heating chamber on the side of the firebox and hot water tank was convection. We used to feel the side of the tank and you could clearly tell the exact level of water in the tank was hot, that's how you judged if there was enough to take a shower. Early internal combustion engines also relied on convection, our old two cylinder John Deere tractors had neither water pump nor thermostat.
Nice clean setup and educational demonstration by the way, thanks for sharing.
It's confirm that it's fake
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@@OneHunnitNoCapStannitOnBidnisz Not fake just a different process of doing it
We made one of these for our Boy Scout troop when I was a kid! They work great! We put our cold water supply just a bit higher and our hot water retrieval bucket lower.
The income of cold water entering ? Your not saying how much to set valve opening to allow cold water in ? So give time for coil to recover making hot water ? How much should you have cold valve open too in order to work ??
@@broncotony513 k.i.s.s. It lol “keep it simple stupid”
i think the water would be way too hot, but that would also help in a no electricity situation. you could mix less of it with the cold water to get comfortably hot water
You would just a need mixer tap ?
why not just let it cool?
That would never be a problem if u have water that needs heating you probably have cool water for mix.
@@trenn10 well, if you want to use the water for a bath or something, waiting for the water to cool or putting scathing hot water into the tub might be bad. So if you want the water to be a fixed temperature, you would need a heater to keep the warmed water at that temperature which requires electricity.
So mixing it with cold water automatically and being able to adjust how much might be best.
Some things go without saying....
In the UK ages ago, houses relied on heat from a real fire.
Most fireplaces had a BACK BURNER, which heated water, which filled a tank by convection current.
The hot rank was strategically located to act as a radiator.
With just these simple devices, the whole house was kept warm, and had free hot water.
We got all complicated when gas central heating took over.
boilers are rather ineffecient.
A lot of old homes had hot water heat even schools had a boiler room. I wouldn't knock it because that kept the classrooms warm in the winter. Spring the fans were used to cool a classroom. 73
But , during sweltering summers you still had to have the fire going full pelt to get hot water.
And in a true "grid down" scenario, our entire concept of wealth will be redefined. Those who have bits of copper, a few gallons of propane or the tools to properly solder metals will be considered middle class...those with operational solar technology will be kings
I appreciate you showing this, I remember when we didn't have plumbing when I was a kid. I was born and raised in Alaska. off grid living is the best. My mom heated everything on the woodstove and washed us in a big tub as kids. We hauled all our water and I plan on going right back to the simple times. I miss smelling like woodsmoke♡. Lol! Great vid, thanks again for sharing
I still love to admire you. Hi Sonya!
Nice
I grew up in Alaska, 32 years. I’m in Texas now, but the lessons learned in the Bush are treasures that these southerners don’t get. Last week we had a record cold snap here that lasted nearly a week. Got down to 11° where I live. Peoples pipes froze and busted. Now they’re waiting a month and a half for a plumber. 75 people froze to death, most in their homes. My pipes didn’t freeze, my family didn’t freeze, we didn’t starve either.
Did you use a thermo siphon like the one in the video or did you insulate your pipes or just turn off the water and drain the pipes when the cold hit?
I would love that life. My wife however not so much lol!
Many years ago we lived in a war torn country with little technology. My uncle couldn't afford a hot water tank, so he created a small chamber between the house ceiling and the bathroom ceiling (an in-between crawl space) and installed a metallic tank there. Underneath the tank, he lit a candle and no kidding, they always had hot water.
I know an old woman who had no hot water where she lived, she had a black lined rain catcher, the sun would heat the water up
Holy shit Leila. Really? A candle ? Makes sense
@@mikemcbain4250 It's the appropriate combination. The metal water tank was installed on the roof of the bathroom and underneath the house ceiling, so that, and the fact that heat goes up naturally, the air around the tank was always warm. The candle was lit hours underneath the tank before wash time and it worked perfectly.
@@lede1810 😂 A candle heated a metal tank. What capacity did it hold?
@@unaninanine3743 some countries like Mexico don't even have septic systems I can see how something so simple would work so well
Also to add on is to isolate the copper tubing with some isolating material preventing heatloss especially in cold areas.
You mean insulate?
@@Pureevilhotsauce isolate means to separate so he means what he said
@@Pureevilhotsauce no, just isolate..
Isolate from what? No, he means insulate. Insulate means adding material that slows down the transfer of heat.
We are not separating anything from anything. We are ot isolating anything.
@@alan5506 No he means isolate. That's why he said it. Isolate the copper from the outside weather.
My grandmother used to make tea by boiling water in a kettle made of solid copper, the fire she made was her yard woods waste. It was so pleasant sitting around fire with her and drinking the tea and listening to her stories. She also made bigger volume of hot water by using her big copper pot for washing dishes and other use. She also had samovar, which is a Russian made very decorative boiling tool for making tea. It was made out of solid copper with chimney in the middle, encapsulated by water in the copper shell. I kinda like my grandmas !!!
They have discovered arsenic comes from copper when used in distilling so they use stainless steel now.
Lead and copper can poison you. Like mercury.
This is how my dad made hot water for us when we were camping, fishing, hunting even in the winter. Just made a 2 or 3 rap coil of 1/2 inch copper tube attached to a couple of lengths steam gun hose to a 20 GB metal barrel with 2 through hull fittings one high one close to the bottom. Just put the copper coils in the bottom of where your camp fire will be fill the drum up with cold water from the lake or stream keep it topped up from time to time. Just take the lid off. Dip a pot or ladle in remove some hot water replace the lid to keep falling objects out. This system can boil water quite quickly. So don't let the water drop below the lower or outflow from your water drum. Before that happens remove your copper coils from the fire or top up the water. If your lines to the fire go dry you have a very good chance of damaging your copper coils and your steam gun flex lines. Possibly even melting your copper coils.
“20 GB?” Gigabyte?
@@carpballet I think he means 20ga (gauge)
@@WattWireNet Sure. Except “B” and “a” aren’t close on the keyboard. Ugh. Lol.
@@carpballet it's a goofy mistake for sure, more likely to be talking about metal wall thickness than data storage though... what I can I say, I know how geeks think
typo. dnt have to be close to each other
You should do the whole build from start to finish for folks! Thanks for sharing!
This is the only off grid hot water video I've seen that actually works!
Great little vidio---it should be noted --VERY IMPORTANT--that a working pressure relief valve is inthe tank ! ! !
Did that with my wood stove in 1975. Great idea, but ya' gotta have a partner that appreciates the McGiver (sp) approach to life 😏
True that! 23 years ago dating my now wife... I told her I had a hot tub...
N it was on. We went out back and what she seen was a kiddy pool with 2 heaters from waterbeds placed under it. She laughed at first but was down like 4 flat tires when the steam started rolling up. And here we are.
I always get a smile from her to this day....when I quote ol Tom Green. If they don't find ya handsome at least they will find ya handy!...good times
Tom Green said that? Hahahaha The Canadian comedian who had a show on MTV?
@ hollywood creeper.
Nah an older guy had somewhat of a variety show on public access channel long ago.
He signed off every episode with that phrase.
@@Gachalifeluver_1122 you mean Red Green, he had the Red Green show. Two entirely different Canadians haha. Fun Fact tho: Tom Green lives in a van now.
@@Gachalifeluver_1122 he's actually thinking of Red Green, but I'm laughing thinking about Tom Green saying this.
Would love to see how the coil is fit into the stove, any possibility of a tear down video or an explanation of how the stove was assembled? Awesome contraption thank you for sharing it!
👌 good question
Great question! I’m not very mechanically inclined but I’ve started trying to learn things for my son and I so when shit hits the fan I have the ability to still provide for him!
You dont actually need to fit it on the inside, many other channels simply fit it around the outside of the stack.. just above the fire it still provides ample heat to boil water
@@BlazedAFGaming if anything its better on the outside.
@@floppybeefcurtains7679 came to this vid looking for execution on this same idea. Why would it be better on the outside?
Today I learned about Thermosiphoning.
Thank you sir!
Keep up the good work!
This is a pretty cool idea. I have to say though, if you made it out of stainless and made some baffles to slow the exhaust down you could drag a LOT more heat out of it. The modern boilers are 90%+ efficient with this design. The exhaust gas temp leaving them is so low you can run it through PVC pipe, however the water vapor extracted from the flue gasses is corrosive so you need to make your chambers stainless. You were measuring the outside of the boiler at 570-580 degrees. High outside temps mean all those extra BTU's are going to waste. Wrap it in fiberglass insulation and it will help.
I was thinking the same thing about wrapping everything up. Especially the tubing from the coil back to the tank could be losing a lot of heat. I love the idea, though. With just some minor modifications this would be great for SHTF or off the grid living.
Do it yourself people are one of the smartest underrated individuals.
This coil version looks great for outdoor camp situations, the parts are portable and the burn method is powerful and efficient…great demo.
Very interest approach to hot water. I got to give the guy some serious street cred for this.
And outdoors require room/tent/space heating as well. The fire can thus serve 2 purposes of heating the air near the folks and water for the folks :)
I really like the system you have built. I particularly like that you used recycled parts, too. Obviously, the system could be more efficient but that would make it much harder to build and complicated. In a crunch, simple always aces complex. Well done.
Yep... and the climate police will shut it all down. Not practical at all.
@@joeboudreault2226 Not if you shoot them as they come over the hill.
@@johnlorraine204 that is not helpful, let alone charitable.
@@joeboudreault2226 What is charitable of the perpetual lies supplied to us and all entities by the U.S. government for the past 240+ years? I ask on behalf of your climate comment.
@@johnlorraine204 I simply meant that shooting a 'climate police" person wasn't charitable. I'd probably agree with you regarding climate lies from governments. Just live Truth and be done with it.
The unit heats up fast and is super quiet. It looks fancy th-cam.com/users/postUgkxl8Od2BvnGbn1ffwqsuFXW0QnmcZgMiVY and can be kept in the living room. It gets hot within a split second of turning on the unit. The build quality is exceptionally good and is safe to be around kids and pets. This one is super quiet and can be kept on while in office meetings, my wife loved it. It shows the temperature right on the unit which is very useful and adding a rotating feature helps to heat up the surrounding, so other people will not fight with you for heat. It is right as described in the description..!! Definitely recommend!!
Seems like many people here don't know what it's like to not have warm water in winter.
It sucks not having hot water.
Depending on where you live, it could be from somewhat inconvenient, to VERY difficult. There is always the pot-on-the-stove method.
I live completely off grid and I don’t have hot water running to my cabin. I heat water on my wood burning stove. I’ve been looking into something like this for some time now
James Cookston consider getting a "portable LPG water heater", just get one from ebay, you can get a good unit for under $200. They come as a kit with all the required fittings and a small 12v pump you can run off your car battery, if you don't have a car, buy a 12v battery and a cheap 12v solar charge kit.
I used one for several years before I built my rocket water heater and solar thermosiphon combo system. From experience these little LPG systems are a must have for anyone going off grid and setting up as they go. Used a 9kg gas tank every 6 - 8 months, showering everyday and using it to wash dishes etc, so it was only costing me $40 a year in gas.
Unless you have all the tools and knowledge to build a wood burner right away, take the path of least resistance and make life easy on yourself.
@@bane6162 such a great idea! I'm working on getting this setup soon.
My old apartment in Japan had basically this system to heat up the tub. Only difference is it used gas instead of wood. Worked great, though we had to wait for 20 minutes or so to take a bath
This is how a coffee maker works! And you made a big one!
Pity we did not get an invite l like my coffee hot.
you should have showed the assembly of the heat stack and coil so people know the mechanics of putting it all together, good video though
Yes I agree, I understand the process but would really like to see the assembly, especially the "cap" he talked about to keep the heat in the chamber??? I can only wonder and assume that the "cap" is a flat cap the of is 8"to10" reducing to a 4" to 6" ??? But I'm sure E775 is to busy to remake a video for the assembly... What are your thoughts, and questions you were hoping to get answered by an assembly video??? Also his Lil wood stove reminds me of a rocket stove???
Yes, please if you would do a COMPLETE STEP-BY-STEP assembly process from beginning to end would be EVEN MORE helpful, needed and Sooooo appreciated!
(Hope I'm not assuming ... but sometimes to brilliant people like this those steps seem unnecessary however, to the rest of us we need those added steps to help is fill in the blanks!
Thank you ... Hope to see a part 2 soon
Thank yoi
Where did you put the coils in the fire?? We all here waiting to know.
How do you supply the water you will use for your shower?
@@vrajananda gravity. You can install the tank higher than the fixture using it.
I nearly became homeless a few years ago I was living I'm my car I didnt want a heater in the car because of carbon monoxide made something smiler with a charcoal burner in a metal box to the side of the car then piped the water inside the car to a automotive heater core with a little 12v fan it worked amazing I could wear a t shirt when it was snowing I ended up helping a few people do similar who where also living in there car
Edit I should mention I had a t piece on the cold return side with a open bit of pipe so it couldn't pressurise alltho it could cool scalding water to luke warm so I probly would have gotten away without it
Amazing. People are brilliant.
Good to know. I was wondering about that!
@Land Lubber you know what I mean I wasent under a bridge I did have something all be it not much
I don’t get it.
Sir you did a fantastic straight to the point presentation! Not only is this efficient, but safe, and actually free hot water! I was thinking either more coils or a larger 1/2" copper pipe, would improve the heating process. To me, this is the way to heat water using no electricity, no propane, just some small branches of dried wood!
This reminds me of when I was a child. We had a wood stove that heated our water. It worked on the same concept as this but on a larger scale. Cold water in a tank went into a copper tubing that coiled around a wood stove and then went back into the tank.
Just build a fire under the water heater, that's what I do.
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That works 👍
But that wouldnt thermosyphen anywhere......which was the point of the demo.....
It might take more than 30 minutes.
This way is way to dangerous to use directly, as he says himself.
So, for practical porpoises, is better to keep it simple.
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I'm absolutely staggered at the people who can't fathom why this is so useful.
It's because it's not a new idea by any means. It's just a homemade back-boiler. I'm sorry, but 'Wow'.
As of right now it is not useful. People have been claiming this knowledge "will soon be useful" for various reasons and one day they may be right, but as of right now there is no reason to believe this will be useful in our lifetime unless under very specific circumstances like trying to live off grid.
@@lazyh-online4839 Useful when the power goes out for a week during an ice storm. 'Course, we just usually heat water in buckets over a campfire, but this is probably less work and more wood efficient once it is set up.
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I used to have 3 50 ft garden hoses coiled on my roof that the sun heated for my bathwater. I like your setup better. Thanks.
I love stuff like this. This and the ram water pump reminds me of what my Grandparents place use to have. They always had a fire going in the stove (Summer time outside, winter time inside), and eating GranMa's cooking!!!!
Watched and saved this video 5 years ago, still love it!
While there may or may not be a more efficient way to do this, given what is available or free on the road side. The majority of those that commented with questions on this post are the selected crowd. It is that cycle of life that will control. It was clearly stated if power goes out or off the grid use. It is so simple to understand in that if you don't you are the ones who will be the first to die. Young children are not simply suppose to draw their own bath water or have access to anything like this...and as for elderly that can't take care of themselves, they either have someone to do it for them just like now, or in the event of "needed" use for this device, will succumb to natural selection. And for those not given the intelligence of thought...gravity...simple gravity will give water pressure. God gave you a brain people..perhaps it's time some of you use it.
T. McW Sweet milk! There is another intelligent person out there. Thank you friend.
Compact, awesome design, solid construction, works as described!
I wish I could see this process from the beginning, every step of the build!
Thank you . I love that you use reperposed or easy to get materials . We had storms this past winter that had us out of power this would have been killer to have had.
keep your outlet under water level, and it will purge all the air out, then have a steady recirculation flow.
well said Jerry
You get better flow doing it your way. The syphoned water pulls water in faster while retaining more heat.
You can also make a stile when hot water is not what you want with it. Cough...moonshine
I did something similar in my old camper. I ran 50 foot of 1/2 inch copper tubing around my water heater tank, then put the insulation back on it. I run the heater hoses through it. anytime I'm traveling, I got hot water, but you have to be careful. It will get to about 190 degrees(engine temp) instead of 120, like with propane or electricity.
9 Years old video popping up now in my recommendation.. channel is still posting videos.. 🔥 Keep it up
I'm so glad I stumbled upon this video again,now I'm subscribed so I wont loose any of your videos. I'm going to build one if these in tandem with my batch rocket mass heater I've just stated.
2 thumbs up Engineer!
I checked. You did nothing
This is awesome! I'd be very interested in finding out more things you could do like this to live a normal modern life without relying on electricity so much. Looking forward to seeing more from you.
Try doing a search here for rocket mass heaters. :)
My great grandmother had something similar already built in to the back of her woodstove.
I was just have a coal burning water heater
Holy cow it's an actually useful TH-cam video . This is fantastic , people are supposed to wait most of a full day when installing a new water heater tank to regulate itself ,
Technically this is a bubble pump, same idea that’s in every drip coffee maker.
I’ve always wanted to build one based around a rocket stove design.
Rocket stove water heater th-cam.com/video/z-ggbrGek2o/w-d-xo.html
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I lost your video and it just came up in the recommendations and I am so happy I found you again!
Thanks. I feel better about the apocalypse now that I have saved this video to my liked playlist.
This is the same concept many outdoor showers now employ. Great job.
I think you could improve your flow rates by removing the check valve. In a thermal siphon situation, the swing check is a huge impediment to flow.
He makes a mistake, in lifting the outlet above the tanks water level, because that makes thermal siphoning impossible, the very thing he's purporting to show. What's moving the water here is steam, because the water inside the coil is allowed to boil from inability to move. The water in the coil being so hot, means a much lower temperature differential and thermal exchange, and it's not really moving in the first place, just gargling from the boiling. A proper thermal siphon creates continuous circulation, and is probably over 20 times as efficient as this.
Pay attention, because when the web GOES or is SHUTDOWN. What you learn will be INVALUABLE. Thank you Sir. Great video
Some people don't know but that copper pipe he has in his hand is soft copper and is sold in a roll. Just wrap it around the size of pipe you want and there it is. Very simple.
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Unless you accidentally put a kink in the soft tubing you are correct. Filling with sand and capping the ends prevents a kink in the coil, that is the way I was taught to bend boiler tubes early in my working career but they are not soft as we had to use two acetylene bottles with a y marrying them together and oxygen with a large rosebud to custom fabricate them in emergency outages. I worked field construction so when a large megawatt turbine is idle time is precious making ordering a handful of tubes offsite was not timely or cost efficient if replacements were not available in a timely manner. Cost is a minor thing when for example a 500 megawatt turbine furnishes 500,000 homes with electricity. Sadly they are phasing our coal burning plants out and the trade is on the decline for that and other reasons. This dude used ice on this soft copper an option not a possibility with drawn steel. Great idea here though it works.
I plan to do this with my diesel heater exhaust to heat water in my house this winter. I'll be heating the water to just add humidity to the dry air in the winter, and emergency hot water if needed.
Mark my words, we gonna need all the vintage tech in modern times soon, very soon folks
Practical things
Interesting. Maybe, but I don’t see why.
I hope not
I thought you were tapping into a lamp post from the city for electricity to heat it. 😂
Hmmm There's an idea!.....
lol. The title says 'without electricity', not "without electricity bill".
MCatwar . But you can get a phone to charge from a phone line in to your house even when your main supply goes off!
Really. How do u get a phone to change from just a phone socket!
NOT SURE but this might work. Change plug on phone line from phone to network plug then buy dongle that goes from USB to to network plug than double female connector to plug everything in.
down in Mexico I saw a hot water heater that you put a paper bag full of kerosene soaked wood chips (you bought them from a guy on the street who came by daily) and it heated pretty quickly. the apartment we lived in had no hot running water and if you wanted a hot shower you went to the roof of the building where the shower room was and had enough hot water for 3 people
You can do an instant hot water heater like that. Seen it done to hot tub off grid. Simple to do. 55 gallon barrel and coils run in and out of barrel. In and out the barrel. Inlet of coil and out let at top of coil out the barrel. So simple for anyone to make. No need for a tank. Pump or no Pump
It would of been nice to see it being built from the start to show every process not the finished item like how did he do that
Oh jees.
You are right i think he may have lied about the bending process at the beginning of the video he mentioned ice. My experience with tube like this is that it easiy splits best to use a proper bender. Cavalier presenters of ill thought out schemes can not be trusted.
*Or you could put a pan of water over a fire and pour the hot water into an insulated container. Works just as well, and you don't have to be a plumber to set it up.*
You really wanna do that everytime you need hot water?
You figure this out once and you have hot water on demand. With you method you have hot water for a while and it's gone in a few minutes. This thing is 40 gallon of hotwater hot as in 🔥. Automated by burning some sticks you can find anywhere outside
I really like this thanks for doing the video!
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Cool idea, will circulate far better if you raise the cylinder higher than the stove. Very old school UK plumbing system called gravity circulation. Cold falls, hot rises. From a plumber
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When I was a kid, we had a small potbellied stove in the basement with a coil running around the inside & a 50gal galvanized tank next to it. It was my job to start & keep the fire going whenever we needed hot water. - - - That was After we got running water in the house. Before that, I had to carry water from the well & fill a tub sitting over a firepit outdoors to heat water for laundry, baths ETC,
Can you please show us how you made that copper pipe coil?
video in the description
+Mustafa Kulle just wrap it around an pole or cylinder object of required or similar circumference.
+imchasinyou type K is the hardest copper you can buy lol...
imchasinyou Yes K and L are similar. I actually didn't know you could get soft temper type K. Buck rogers does sound like some sort of cowboy hack. I'm in the 4th year of my apprenticeship as a plumber/gasfitter I'll have my ticket in like 6-8 months.
***** Yes even close - you can get K,L,M,H,DWV for pipe there is no such thing as "tomak copper pipe". What kind of hack shit are you doing making your own bends out of ridgid pipe? Buy some fittings and learn to solder.
I love it, it's all natural. I wonder if you couldn't bend that copper hose into an arch like a faucet, so the water would go in a bucket?
Any chance you made a video on how you made your Rocket stove and installed your copper coil?
Just give him time. No need to remind him every 7 years
Same thing can be done with Solar which is 100% FREE! This method costs effort to use wood where solar costs panel component.
works when there is sun. not so good when there isnt. of the grid normally requries 3 systems to be useful.
Scalding hot? In cold snowy weather? You get what you pay for.
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Not sure I would consider Solar 100% free... solar panels are expensive. Figure in the costs of set-up, and usage, and I bet the wood powered water heater will be the more economical solution for years before you would ever catch up with the cost of the solar.
Beau Briggs I'll take that bet
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Yepp I’m seriously late with my reply :)
However, I get a steady stream of hot water on the output, by restricting lengths of the coil….
I go from 5/8’s to 1/2, to 3/8’s to 1/4 inch….
Over the distance of the coil….
Been using this method for 5 years….
Also, I generally use coal in the boiler…you can leave it unattended for 8-10 hours…no problem
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How high can the copper pipe go before the water is no longer siphoned ?
Cheers Tom - Australia
In theory the max height of a siphon is about 32ft above the water surface in the header tank.
In practice you are safer to keep to 20ft. Also if any part of the siphon is even slightly above the water surface you need to fill the pipe manually any time you drain the system.
But notice there is no real limit on how far the stove can be below the water tank. In a traditional upstairs hot water tank and downstairs stove (or back boiler) it fills itself nicely when you turn the water on. This should do the same if the coil is below the tank
True River I need to pump water upstairs! Thermostat siphon is a wood fired water pump...
That makes me think you could pump water hundreds of feet if you have booster heaters
You can plumb that system directly into pressurized systems by removing the check so you can create a convection. Usually check valves have a spring loaded stopper which stop the flow. And be sure to have a way to release air trapped in high spots
It's a swing check. No spring in this one.
how do you release the trapped air?
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Yep, when the ...emp ...goes off. Y'all are all fucked anyway if you need youtube to tell you how to make hot water.
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This is it! This is what i was looking for, genius stuff! I imagine rolling the Copper around the outside of the chimney of the main fireplace so each morning you'll have hot water ready from heating the house?
if not joking)...I think heat rises, heat transfer to copper tubing wrap, GREAT! but to achieve maximum efficiency, wrap the outer coil w/a paste of some sort to transfer heat (also remember pressure safety) lol. Sorry over thinkin! LOL!
@@larrytolemy2621 Why sorry man..? 😇
Great advice from you! Good point on pressure, i definitely need to try this thing out before installing! Btw what did you mean by the paste to transfer the heat? Do you mean to not lose any heat to outside the coil? Thanks 😊
Serious question: in a grid down situation, will water still be pumped into the home from the main stations?
No. You'd have to get water into the tank somehow without grid power. They still planning on shutting the grid down?
Put a bulk container in your roof
Just to add to the wood debate... storms came through my area and we had trees shattered across a 20 mile stretch. There's downed wood everywhere and it is actually a fire hazard in the woods until it decays (dry wood, wind and a spark = out of control fires). Burning wood and putting the ashes into a garden is a cycle patterned on nature when lightning torches hundreds of acres; the ash itself fertilizes new life that also cycle through the growth pattern. Which is why many mushroom hunters go out in burn areas and the plants reseed into 'new green' after the soil is replenished this way. My furnace is natural gas, and the fumes stink; I don't think Nature regularly burns oil anywhere. Maybe it's a 'natural product used unnaturally' due to human intervention.
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Elaine Kain I live in northern Wisconsin! Downed trees aren't a fire hazard it's the 5 inch layer of dry pine needles! IF YOU CAN SMELL YOU'RE FURNACE BURNING! YOU SHOULD PROBABLY HAVE SOMEBODY LOOK AT IT!!
kinda like a water heater for a outdoor wooden hot tubs
Elaine Kain @
They add a chemical to natural gas so that you can smell it and detect leaks so you can leave your house if needed. Natural gas by itself has only a very slight aroma, if any, you might not pick up on it in time, depending on where it comes from.
Engineer775, Thanks for sharing this. It's an excellent video and I'm going to build one in the spring! :)
Thank you for showing this for us . God bless you and keep your family safe and now we can all stay warm and heated water . Wow , " Awesome job
Love it! That’s how they did it in the 1800’s.
When the EMP goes off and throws society back to more primitive times, this is how you’ll do it. 👍🏻
"Haters gonna hate..."
Enjoyed the video. I'm looking forward to experimenting with independent thermosiphon stuff around the house for heating living space and water. Our power goes out a lot during inclement weather, and I think having a way to heat water, cook, and stay warm without depending on the grid would be a great thing to have. Keep experimenting!
Scott, over 8 million views! Doesn't that qualify for going viral? You have my respect, sir.
Hi, does that coil have holes in it? No close up, just curious to understand that part, and what size is it?
NO ONE SEES A REAL NEED FOR SOMETHING LIKE THIS UNTIL A DISASTER HAPPENS , GREAT INVENTION BY THE WAY
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Caleb Jones LOL Too funny, Caleb! :-)
Well I’m heading up the Yukon in the spring and guess what? I’m probably going to now go with this set up. Because hey i like a nice hot shower The less power and money that i save will kick ass. Not everywhere you go will there be unlimited loads of power. I might even add more copper to the return line and then use the radiant heat to possibly help heat my trailer. Thanks for the video.
If other heating means are not available as in a remote location this is great, even then though bottled gas should be available unless it's an extremely remote area. But my costs of heating water are less than $1.00 a day making this hardly worth the trouble. Even if I only spent 20 minutes a day doing this that would be the equivalent of making or saving around $3 an hour.
With an automatic system you have hot water when ever you want it which would be much more convenient. If you prefer to live off the grid though and have nothing else to do with your time then this is great.
If I were to do this though I think I would rather design a system using a fire underneath a gas water heater, and not rely on the syphoning process.
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Solar power is a better passive available energy. Combustion is dirty, inefficient and unsustainable on a mass scale.
A new video to show the set up start to finish for us non engineers would be great if you could do another! Thanks for doing this one.... retired nurse so not so mechanical and familiar with check valves, caps, etc.🙂
True
Poor people in Mexico do it all the time. After all, NECESSITY IS THE MOTHER OF INVENTION😮
Perfect. This is some of what Alaskans off gridders do they keep a small fire going 24 7 though besides the wood stove too
Love your down to earth approach in explaining how the process works. Thanks and you earned a sub! I look forward to watching more of your videos!
A gas water heater works and heats water without electricity.. But yeah I see what your doing here also which is very cool but I have a couple question:
How would you go about adding pressure to this? By placing a hot water tank on the roof maybe with an overflow line going back to the cold water tank?
And if you already have a sizable wood burning stove in your home could this system be retro-fitted to it somehow so the stove can be used to cook, heat the home and heat water?
+ElfNet Gaming years ago (30 or so) I heard of people doing something similar by wrapping copper tubing around their woodstove to heat water that would then go to a radiant heat system throughout their house/cabin. I'm not sure of all the mechanics involved but I'd heard it was done. I presume the system acted in part to how this hot water heater works. I'd heard this from an 'old timer' that grew up in the Upper Peninsula of Michigan.
Your idea of placing the cold water tank on the roof or at least in an upper level should add a fair amount of gravity 'pressure' for the feed. The action of it being a 'thermal pump' is just like he stated in the vid...like a coffer percolator. I suppose for added pressure then possibly making it into a boiler or sorts would enable you to pressurize it as a steam system and use condenser coils to capture the water at the other end but remember blowoff valves. This idea just keeps getting better!
Bob The Ham Well I retired my 60 gallon gas water heater and put in a 40 gallon electric tank to run off the solar power I have here now. I was thinking of using the old gas tank as a reservoir of sorts now.
I don't foresee my solar power system going tits up anytime soon as long as the sun is shining that is. But I was beating the idea of an stove heated on demand type system to take up the slack until the big tanks were heated.
+Bob The Ham Back in the day of my grandma there were wood stoves everywhere. They were usually coal fired cast iron monsters. Besides cooking they supplied the whole house with both heating and hot water.. i've seen one in action but I was only a kid. I just remember having to go out the back on a cold morning to the coal heap and get a bucket of coal for my friends mum on occasions!! we had that dangerous thing called 'an electric stove'.. God forbid! As my friends Grandma said "That electric thing will never catch on".. LOL
+bicanoo_magic
Jane- My dad grew up in the old tenement houses in Scotland and when he was 12 they got rehoused in an 'All electric house' and boy was that exciting. Imagine the joy and magic.
Magic Smoke ONLY released from electrical things..
Interesting. I've done this with a larger coil years ago in a basement. AND heated the entire house as well. But wood is messy and impractical except on the country. And you don't get cheap stovepipe anymore.
not to mention a little squirt of hot water is hardly going to last through a whole shower , good luck
@@kantraxoikol6914 That's why you build the hot water into the tank over time, hence his reference to a 30 minute prep time. Since most tanks have thermal insulation it won't be an issue. Then you can take a nice hot shower, ect.
The real issue if you wanted to nitpick would be that in a long term off grid situation, water collection to run such frivolous activities would be ineffective. However if it's a small grid down time, like say a week or in a remote area he can enjoy a hot shower/sanitize dishes, ecr while everyone else waits. Depends on your situation but you can easily get more than a squirt of hot water if you aren't an idiot.
That is very impressive. Several years ago I experimented with 15mm copper tube in the shape of a double "S", painted matt black to capture heat from the sun. The water got really hot, but there wasn't enough of it. Now in March 2022 energy prices are already sky high and will rise even further, so I may revisit the project and add another "S". But what I need is a water tank.
This is awesome to know. Knowledge is power. Good video!
A fired hot water closed loop system without a pressure release is very dangerous.
Pretty much all water heaters have a temperature and pressure relief valve (T&P valve). Some older ones may not have them but all modern heaters come with them standard.
But he uninstalled the pressure valve on this project.
MrOldclunker Ah perhaps I did not pay enough attention.
Exactly what I was thinking, @MrOldclunker -- heat liquid in a permanently sealed metal vessel and... and... you have what old steamboat captains might call a disaster.
@@MrOldclunker Dude, this is a prototype, not a finished product! Anyone who can tinker this should know to install a pressure-relief valve!
would you be able to run the lines into your house and hook it up to a small radiator and use it for emergency heat for you home ?
Well, that's almost the way a car radiator works, except there has to be a valve to let off steam to keep it from blowing you to kingdom come!
This is brilliant for someone who lives in the out back.all you need is a feeder tank which you can fill. with a t at top of tank bottom of t as feeder and top of t feeder of evaporation back into feeder tank.Electric 12 volt pump to pump water from solar panel .into a higher tank at top.then a pipe of 22mm from bottom for hotwater supply.another 22mm pipe connected to smaller pipe back
If you put a turbine on the chimney you should be able to hook up a generator, Or heck feed that access heat into a sterling engine and make some electricity, See how efficiant you can make it :D
Haha! Great ideas! Anywhere there's heat there's potential energy, and this thing is putting out LOADS of heat that could be used elsewhere. I don't know how much energy you could get from a turbine on this thing, but a sterling engine could totally work. I wish I lived where I could test this out.
If you can get enough power to run a LED light for an hour or two, that would be marvelous. I believe goal zero has a camp cooker with USB port for cellphone charging.
Why are people comparing wood to fossil fuels? Ever heard of renewable resources? Its called plant a tree.....
Because fossil fuels burn hotter, with less, producing less CO2.
Also, fossil fuels have more energy per unit mass, meaning easier transportation through the whole nation easier.
If the whole US were to turn to wood-stove heating we would most likely dwindle our forests faster than what we can reproduce.
Source: Chemical Engineer
Your reply is absurd especially for someone "CLAIMING" to a "Chemical Engineer".... Have you ever heard of wood gasification? P.S its renewable.
Source: Not your average idiot!
spartin No offence but that must be one dumb Chemical Engineer as a source. Fossil Fuels ... there are mainly 3 types Oil, Natural Gas and Coal. Apart from Natural gas Both Oil and Coal when processed and used produce SHIT loads of CO2 specially Coal. Fun fact Its not easy to transport Fossil Fuels and also they are getting rarer by the day. Fun Fact unlike Tree's you cannot renew or make new Fossil fuels as they take millions of years to be processed naturally.. Fun fact its faster to plant the renewable Tree compared to fossil fuels which are non renewable. Fun fact they teach this shit on Grade school.... Holy shit dude how did you conclude what you just said!? your answer killed 1 of my brain cell !
hahaha, no kidding right?
copperhound1 all my classes are about math and engineering. So, not only do I learn to trust what I learn but I also BUILD what I learn and see first hand how it's true. So yes, I trust what I learn in school.
Yo if you use a fan that uses the steam to self spin you could create a vaccuum for uniform flow
What do you think of the solar water heaters? From what I yanked off a roof (I do panels) it was just a box with a coil and insulation. Can this be done DIY and not look like trash?