@@ztoff3012 good question.. probably for the house.. don’t want to heat a Organic pool .. the Organic pool uses plants to clean the water if you heat the pool you could damage the plants and other organisms and create an algae growth
Hi David, I noticed you generally backfill your ponds with gravel. Would you ever do it with subsoil? To provide a stronger growing medium etc, as long as you have good filtration of course, no introduced fish etc.
Excellent video! Does anyone know, at 2:19, what the small and light colored pipes are near the top of the gravel on the outside and near the top of the water level on the inside? Thanks in advance! :)
Hi- how long did ur water take to clear up? We just finished building our pool and are in the "cloudy" phase - hoping it won't last maybe more than a few weeks? Also- did you add any beneficial bacteria to your pool? Thanks!
How about this approach: first epdm liner, then the concrete foundation & walls on top of the liner. I see some advantages: you can choose a color other than black for the swimming area. Easier for plumbing and repair. Has this ever been done (succesfully)?
That system will essentially absorb the ambient heat from a large area (the concrete under the pool) and condense it to create a more intense heat that can be used to heat the home. It has meters and meters of piping so can absorb quite a lot of heat
Is the liner material available in any other color besides black? I.e. light gray, blue, or what have you? I am really liking the concept but I want to be able to clearly see the bottom everywhere otherwise I won't be comfortable swimming in this.
I still can't understand how to install a pump without puncturing the EPDM layer! Trying to build one in a normal pool shape and want to add a pump system.
I'm wondering if it is possible to create such organic pool without using any kind of plastics whatsoever, like for example roman pools etc.? What different options would there be to accomplish such thing? If someone happens to have good sources, please do share them :) Cheers!
Well Romans used cement and that is about as polluting as making plastic... But, you could mortar stone or, of course, there are clay bottom ponds (but traveling clay if it's far from you can be polluting as well).
Clay is always the best option, plastic liners will need to be replaced in 20-50 years but clay is for many lifetimes. No nasty petroleum industry needed
Hmmm. Yes. Obviously saves digging separately for the pool and the ground source array, but unless the bottom of the pool is insulated, I would guess the array will be drawing significant energy from the pool as well as the ground below.
Why not put the liner UNDER the concrete and brick wall? My entire pond will be concrete on TOP of liner... Then... nothing can puncture the liner. Then rocks on top of concrete.
The only thing I don't get is leaving the plastic liner exposed on the bottom. It's terribly unattractive (IMO, and the rest is gorgeous) and I think it makes the pool look unfinished.
Putting the heat exchanger under the pool sounds about like opening your fridge to cool your house. It won't work like you expect. It looks like someone who doesn't understand how heat pumps work. Would love to hear your reasoning.
Someone mentioned that this is likely for the house, not the pool. But then this could freeze the pond from the bottom in the winter, when you're drawing heat out of the exchanger. Still very curious about the aspects they considered here, and what the math says, and how Nature responds.
@@boardwalkbw7130 of course. In case you don't know how heat pumps work, when you're heating, there's a cold side that exchanges with outside air (or ground/pond in this case.) To make my question perfectly clear: in the winter, heating the house, the pond outside is already cold. If you are using the pond to extract heat, _this makes the pond actually colder._ In climates with freezing weather, ponds are prevented from freezing entirely by 2 factors: 1) ice floats, so any ice that forms floats to the surface, 2) the temperature of the ground below the surface actually varies less than the ground surface, and so the ground actually stays above freezing (except in frozen tundra.) If you use the ground under the pond to exchange the cold side of the heat exchanger, you reduce the value of the warmth of below surface ground - in short, you risk freezing the entire pond from the bottom. Even if it doesn't freeze, the ecosystem in the pond will be colder than a natural ecosystem exactly because you are extracting heat from it. This could put a strain on the fish, plants and other fauna that have settled in the pond. I hope you can understand the complexity and intelligence of my question now, as sometimes people think my questions are simple.
The one thing that I really can't stand about this channel is how short the videos are. I would love a long video with explanations and insights. Such a good opportunity for a really interesting video. This is just a bit boring really. Sorry.
@jigglypuff: The MAN has a LIFE and it's not living on TH-cam like many soul disconnected people out there. You want more info then research on his website. Have a Great Day!!!
So nice to see those young 'tadpoles' enjoying the construction and swimming in a foot of water.
Dad the Hero! Nice one.
Awesome.. love that he incorporated the ground sourced heat pump into the design.. well done!
Is the heat pump for the house or pool?
@@ztoff3012 good question.. probably for the house.. don’t want to heat a Organic pool .. the Organic pool uses plants to clean the water if you heat the pool you could damage the plants and other organisms and create an algae growth
@@aaronparys1750this makes a whole lot more sense. However, it could freeze the pond from the bottom in winter.
I believe it’s to help heat the house. To what degree it helps is anyone’s guess. I’m going to assume it makes only a marginal addition to the home.
@@savedfaves how does this heat the house? i don't understand
Congraulations, Will! -- and David. It's lovely! Perfect for a sauna!
Well done David, you inspire us all. 😀
Absolutely LOVE it!
Beautiful journey
Brilliant pool, love it.
PS! I kind of think David have a Norwegian in his heart.....love the music.
It's true! Peer Gynt has been used extensively to convey Englishness, but it's by Grieg!
just stunning
Beautiful 💗
Lovely stuff
Bravo!
beautiful
Awesome video, David - do you leave the pond line exposed for the walls and floor, as shown at 1:46?
Will, what sized compressor did you use please and where did you purchase the oak?
Heaven!
Hi David, I noticed you generally backfill your ponds with gravel. Would you ever do it with subsoil? To provide a stronger growing medium etc, as long as you have good filtration of course, no introduced fish etc.
Excellent video! Does anyone know, at 2:19, what the small and light colored pipes are near the top of the gravel on the outside and near the top of the water level on the inside? Thanks in advance! :)
Hi- how long did ur water take to clear up? We just finished building our pool and are in the "cloudy" phase - hoping it won't last maybe more than a few weeks? Also- did you add any beneficial bacteria to your pool? Thanks!
Dude must be rich. Unfortunately, not everyone is. The video was fantastic! Thanks!
Where do you buy the liner from?
Is that a wooden wall separating the vegetative from the swimming area? What kind of wood?
Does that pool liner degrade with exposure to UV?
How about this approach: first epdm liner, then the concrete foundation & walls on top of the liner. I see some advantages: you can choose a color other than black for the swimming area. Easier for plumbing and repair. Has this ever been done (succesfully)?
Gorgeous pool and I did not know one could heat the water? Will it not damage plants or what is max temp it is heated to?
The pipes underneath are for a heat exchanger or heat pump, I think, and not a "warmer".
That system will essentially absorb the ambient heat from a large area (the concrete under the pool) and condense it to create a more intense heat that can be used to heat the home. It has meters and meters of piping so can absorb quite a lot of heat
Great pool. How did you get the right angle corners with the pond liner?
Probably just tidy folds
I just bought the PDF guide from his website and he spends an entire section teaching the exact folds!
Is the liner material available in any other color besides black? I.e. light gray, blue, or what have you? I am really liking the concept but I want to be able to clearly see the bottom everywhere otherwise I won't be comfortable swimming in this.
U could put White sand or gravel on the bottom too
Costing and timings would be a great addition.
I still can't understand how to install a pump without puncturing the EPDM layer! Trying to build one in a normal pool shape and want to add a pump system.
Wish I knew the size and depth of this design as its exactly what I want to do
Did they relocate the mini football pitch?😁😁😁
I'm wondering if it is possible to create such organic pool without using any kind of plastics whatsoever, like for example roman pools etc.? What different options would there be to accomplish such thing? If someone happens to have good sources, please do share them :)
Cheers!
Well Romans used cement and that is about as polluting as making plastic... But, you could mortar stone or, of course, there are clay bottom ponds (but traveling clay if it's far from you can be polluting as well).
Clay is always the best option, plastic liners will need to be replaced in 20-50 years but clay is for many lifetimes. No nasty petroleum industry needed
great pool, will be interesting to see if the ground source pipes take much heat out of the pool.
Hmmm. Yes. Obviously saves digging separately for the pool and the ground source array, but unless the bottom of the pool is insulated, I would guess the array will be drawing significant energy from the pool as well as the ground below.
Probably not swimming in the winter??
@MartensAD
Not so fast.
David has clips of him swimming with ice on the surface of his pond. He says he swims daily in ice.
WHAT IS THE COST OF SUCH A POOL
A small fortune, I’d bet.
david what did we say about your hair!???
Why not put the liner UNDER the concrete and brick wall? My entire pond will be concrete on TOP of liner... Then... nothing can puncture the liner.
Then rocks on top of concrete.
Cement pollutes so much...
Many insects came to the pool.
The only thing I don't get is leaving the plastic liner exposed on the bottom. It's terribly unattractive (IMO, and the rest is gorgeous) and I think it makes the pool look unfinished.
Putting the heat exchanger under the pool sounds about like opening your fridge to cool your house. It won't work like you expect. It looks like someone who doesn't understand how heat pumps work. Would love to hear your reasoning.
Someone mentioned that this is likely for the house, not the pool.
But then this could freeze the pond from the bottom in the winter, when you're drawing heat out of the exchanger.
Still very curious about the aspects they considered here, and what the math says, and how Nature responds.
It's for a geothermal HVAC system for the house
@@boardwalkbw7130 of course.
In case you don't know how heat pumps work, when you're heating, there's a cold side that exchanges with outside air (or ground/pond in this case.)
To make my question perfectly clear: in the winter, heating the house, the pond outside is already cold. If you are using the pond to extract heat, _this makes the pond actually colder._
In climates with freezing weather, ponds are prevented from freezing entirely by 2 factors: 1) ice floats, so any ice that forms floats to the surface, 2) the temperature of the ground below the surface actually varies less than the ground surface, and so the ground actually stays above freezing (except in frozen tundra.)
If you use the ground under the pond to exchange the cold side of the heat exchanger, you reduce the value of the warmth of below surface ground - in short, you risk freezing the entire pond from the bottom.
Even if it doesn't freeze, the ecosystem in the pond will be colder than a natural ecosystem exactly because you are extracting heat from it. This could put a strain on the fish, plants and other fauna that have settled in the pond.
I hope you can understand the complexity and intelligence of my question now, as sometimes people think my questions are simple.
Don't understand why waste money on concrete then a pond liner... might as well get a normal pool...
Ground source heat pump I believe is for the house and not the pond. Concrete is to cover it?
still think this is cheaper than a normal pool(the plants does the waterfiltering).
The one thing that I really can't stand about this channel is how short the videos are. I would love a long video with explanations and insights. Such a good opportunity for a really interesting video. This is just a bit boring really. Sorry.
You can buy access to a super long technical video from David or go on his course 😊
@jigglypuff:
The MAN has a LIFE and it's not living on TH-cam like many soul disconnected people out there. You want more info then research on his website. Have a Great Day!!!
Hi Will. Lovely pool. How much did it cost in total? Did you do any of the hard labour yourself? Thanks